September 11, 2025 • 45 mins
This week on the Vinyl Curriculum Podcast, we’re digging into the world of cover songs—the art of taking someone else’s music and making it your own. Logan and Jim break down some of the most iconic covers in music history, from reinventions that became bigger than the originals to bold takes that divided fans. Along the way, they’ll explore why certain covers work, how artists put their own stamp on familiar tracks, and the moments when a cover completely redefined a song’s legacy.
Whether you’re a fan of faithful tributes or transformative renditions, this episode shines a light on the creativity and risks behind covering a song.
🎧 Tune in, and maybe you’ll discover a cover you like even more than the original.
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Every record tells a story. Independent labels.
I think a lot of interesting songs came out of that.
And every generation has a soundtrack.
The only hip you have in your body is made of titanium.
This is the vinyl curriculum with Logan.
Apparently I don't know very much about anything.
Somebody calls her Tay Tay. Welcome back to another episode
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of the Vinyl Curriculum. Logan and Jim here recording
live in the podcast studio. Jim, how we doing today?
Doing really well today, are you?
I'm a little anxious but. Why is that?
Well, 'cause this is going to bea challenge for you, I know
this. For me, this could be a
challenge. Why do you say that?
The theme this week, Logan, is covers, and so not only are we
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going to compare originals with cover songs, but we're going to
explore various genres that are going to push your limits.
I see. OK, We've got everything from
alternative to post punk. We got bluegrass, we got soft
rock, we got Brit pop. Brit Pop.
Pop soul, little bit of everything and then we've got
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some extra. I'll I'll turn.
I don't know what you call them like different.
Like. Actors, you remember you did the
guy from Star is Born. Yes, Brandon, we've got a couple
of other actors who are going tobe on this this playlist.
Oh, so I'll probably like that then.
It is. Crucial if you listen to this
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podcast, this playlist ahead of time.
So I'm asking if you're in the audience, listen to this play
that's ahead of time because you're going to think, Oh no,
no, that's not going to work. But when you hear it, you might
be surprised. Yeah, no, I I did listen to the
playlist. Contrary to popular belief, that
is what I do. We'll find out.
I listen to the playlist. But before we start though, you
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had a an interesting weekend. Yeah, I want to get a little
mini concert review. I went to the South Shed this
weekend with my son. We saw beach Bunny pool party.
Beach Bunny was now. Beach Bunny, It was the beach
Bunny pool party. OK.
And it was? Sounds like a made-up name.
Five artists and it was Beach Bunny, Soccer Mommy, Granddaddy
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and Annie Derusso. And there was one other person
that we didn't see. You saw the whole family then.
Kind of, yeah, it was really good.
It was a lot of fun. I actually met Beach Bunny, had
my photo taken with her. There's a photo on our social
media channel if you want to seeme and Beach Bunny.
At the vinyl curriculum at vinylcurriculum, I'm sorry, you know
the and vinyl curriculum on Instagram and Facebook.
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That's right. Anyway, it's a lot of fun.
I I get the the day was an. A The day was an the.
Only just the the part that I struggled with was Soccer Mommy,
who was really who I wanted to go see.
They were having audio troubles on her vocals, so it was hard to
hear. Yeah.
What's up with that? I don't know, but I hope if
you're listening Soccer Mommy, your audio person needed little
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assistance. Did you tell her to follow the
podcast at the Vinyl? Cry did not but modify an Apple
podcast. But Beach Bunny did view the
post. She didn't like it because I
didn't, I didn't post a video ofher performing.
I just posted a photo with me and obviously that was not
enough for her to share to her group.
But. She only has 187,000 followers,
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so that would have really been agood boost to our audience.
But yeah, that's not what we're talking about today.
Today we're talking about cover songs.
And you know how we always startoff upbeat?
It's yes. This is going to be upbeat
because this is just a a Cure song.
You know who the Cure are, correct?
We've we've listened to them before.
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I have. We have.
This one is just like heaven. Yep, love the song.
So we're going to listen to it in its original form and then
we'll listen to someone how theythey interpret it in a different
genre. Someone how they.
Interpret How did they interpretthis song in a different genre?
So we're going to find out whether this is the first
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original. 1st, I'm struggling tofollow you, but this is the
Cure. Let's take a listen to the first
song here on the Vinyl curriculum.
So listening to that song, Jim, we've done that song.
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Before we did, we did these. On episode #3 The Second British
Invasion And what do you have tosay for yourself?
I love that song, why not listento it twice?
OK. That was from 1987.
OK, 1987 was 11 years before I was born I think.
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That's not relevant. That's the year I graduated
college. That's more.
Relevant. It was.
It was. Oh my gosh.
This was the first major hit that they had.
OK. So that was, you know, we set
the, the, the stage for that. I absolutely do not.
We should have. Did you bring your paper with?
I would have it on the computer,but I would you say it and then
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I'm going to go judge you and see if you're gotten better or
not. Well, knowing what the rest of
this playlist is, I think I don't even know what should we
what we're going to give it. We're going to give it a solid B
star. Oh gosh, a solid B star.
Oh. Lord, it's going to be a long
day. OK, great song in my this A for
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me for sure. Now, this is the infamous string
dusters. I remember talking about them.
Remember I said one of these days we're going to do this and
we're going to do a covers because there's a version of
this same song. Bluegrass.
Yeah, and bluegrass, like bluegrass to me.
Now. I'm just going to say this,
Lord, you know, for, for to givethe people an idea of what my
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thought is. When I hear the word bluegrass,
I see a lot of banjo. I see a lot of tall grass, you
know, overalls playing the banjowith one of those, what do you
call it? Like pieces of hay in your
mouth? That's what I see.
That's what I see you, Jim, listening to when he talks about
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bluegrass. That's what I picture in my head
is just Jim sitting on a log playing the banjo in overalls.
That's what I do. With a piece of hay.
On a regular basis. I know we just saw Alison Krauss
and Union Station Bluegrass and they were absolutely amazing.
They were, yeah, absolutely amazing.
And what did what Did they sing popular songs like remixes of
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songs or are? They they are, they are country
slash bluegrass. And so they've had several hits.
If you listen to country stations, you would know who
Alison Krauss was and she was born in Champaign, IL.
Sure. All right, just like Kevin, the
infamous string dusters. This is from 2012.
So they this is, I'd had to do my math, but that's like 25
years later they released this, this is. 13 years ago, Yeah.
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And I'm 26. It's irrelevant.
And that's 13 years plus 11 is 24 years, Mr. Math.
I was. Doing it on the fly.
OK, 24 years later, Just like heaven by the infamous string
dusters here on the vinyl curriculum, Let's take a listen.
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I wasn't that far off. From.
From Banjo and. No, that's bluegrass.
Yeehaw. Not really yeehaw, but it's kind
of no. Twangy.
The thing about, I think I talked about this before, the
thing about when you go see a bluegrass group play, they are
so talented and they all play different banjos, mandolins,
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fiddles, and you know, they'll play a song and then the fiddle
player will do a little solo. It's just super talented, fast,
usually fast, quick beats. Yeah.
Now, before I say anything, before you say anything, Logan,
we need to set some parameters. I should have done this earlier.
You always say I don't know how I would dance to that.
I don't know how where I see myself listening to that song.
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Well, I know how I dance to thisone.
I'm setting the stage. You are.
It's a crisp. Imagine.
Shut your eyes and imagine. Is it crisp?
OK, hold on. A crisp fall evening.
Your work's done. You're sitting by a fire pit in
the backyard with friends. If you do, you have friends,
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Logan? No, well, I have quite.
But we're imagining that you have friends.
You. Don't talk to me when we're not
recording. That's.
Right. And people are just playing some
of their songs and you're just listening.
So that's what you're doing. You're just listening to these
songs, you're chilled out, some are going to be upbeat, some are
going to be slow, and you're just being exposed to different
things. So this is the set I'm trying to
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the location of how you're goingto be listening to this.
See, I'm that's not what I picked.
Up so you will be. You will not be dancing.
That's but I I could dance to this song you.
Could this? Is like a you know you're at a
line dance, but we're not. The whole point is we're not
judging this on whether or not we can dance.
I just told you this is a new We're trying to set a new stage.
Are we now? Chilling listening with friends
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of some of the songs they like. OK.
OK. Having said all that.
I think I like the bluegrass version better than the original
version. OK, that's good.
So I'd give that I think I, I'm,I'm torn between AB plus and an
A minus because I know how I graded songs last week and I
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don't think that song lived up to last week's songs. 90s dance.
If you haven't heard that episode of the vinyl curriculum
that's out now on Spotify and Apple podcast, but I think I got
to go B plus for that one. So we were we took a half step
up from the original, which was a solid B to the B plus
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category. That's a high B plus though.
I'd give it I'd give it probablyan 89 an 89.
OK, we're. Going to round that up to 80. 9
No, that's not how that works. We're not.
We're not comparing last week's to this week's.
We're just talking about this week.
Well. What I like about some of these
cover songs is especially if it's something like this, where
it's it's easier to understand the lyrics, you hear it a
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different way because then you understand what they're saying a
little bit easier. And sometimes, like you, even
with Ozzy, you know, you listen to the lyrics of some of his
songs. You don't really hear him
singing it, but when you hear someone else sing it, you're
like, oh, that was those lyrics are pretty good, you know?
But sometimes when it's loud or if it's dance music, you don't,
you don't pay as much attention to the lyrics.
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Well, and Ozzy is is Ozzy, so yeah, you're more listening to
the melody and the music anyway.Right, but he's got good lyrics
sometimes. Yeah.
All right, OK, Well, you know this.
We're starting. That's a good start for you.
The next one is red, red, red red wine.
And this, by the way, this is also a different format than
we're used to. We're we're.
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We didn't explain this at the start, but two, we're listening
to the same song essentially 2 times in a row.
We're. Just told we don't we talk about
that. Well, but I just wanted to
reiterate this is this is throwing me off my rhythm.
Everything is I know. This is throwing me off my
rhythm. Lo, it's very easy to do that to
you. It is.
So the first version came out in67.
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The next one was in 83. Yeah.
Red, red wine. Yes.
Do you know, you know Sweet Caroline when you go to the ball
game? Yeah.
Neil Diamond. Yes, I know who Neil Diamond is.
This is early song of his I think.
I don't know who Neil Diamond is. 1967 Yeah, Red red wine.
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Is he still alive? Yes, Neil Diamond.
Is I'm guessing, but I think he is.
All right, well, while we listen, let's let's look that up
because I'm, I'd like to go see him in concert.
This is Neil Diamond on the vinyl curriculum.
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See, this isn't the song that I'm familiar with, Jim.
You know that that's. The whole point is it, but so,
so yeah, I know you couldn't dance to this.
Well, actually, you could dance to this if you dance slow dance,
but but if you're sitting out chilling, that would not be a
bad song. I mean, that's old.
That's 67. I don't know if that's a sitting
by the fire sign. That's like an evening on the
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patio song. That's what we're doing.
We're just not sitting on the patio.
We're sitting by the fire. Yeah, but it's but you're
talking about when it's dark out.
This is like an evening time song.
Evening is not dark. Sunset.
The sun is setting in the distance over the cornfields.
Because you live by the cornfields.
Yeah, No, you don't. I live in Plainfield.
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I know, but you don't. You drive 5 minutes in in.
But you don't see it from your backyard.
Well, I imagine this is all about I'm.
Imagining you with friends sitting around a fire, That
would be a decent song. You know it's not the
everybody's not not talking because they're listening
intently. They're just listening to the
song and talking. Yeah, I've got to give that
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another B. OK.
That's that's that's another beef salad.
I think you the 1, you know, is we're going to do it next.
It's interesting thing about this though.
This is UB40. They released this in 83, Big
hit in England, didn't really doanything here.
And then like in 88, they had this Nelson Mandela birthday
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party. You know who he was?
He was imprisoned in South Africa and they were.
So it's like a benefit awarenessconcert and they performed this
song live, it picked up and it ended up being a #1 here in
America. So they re released it five
years later. And this UB40.
UB40. Is not who I thought sang this
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song, to be honest with you. I guess we could talk about that
after. Listen and say who?
Maybe somebody else? I'm sure other people have done
it. All right, let's take a listen.
Go through my head. See, I thought that was Bob
Marley. Because it was reggae.
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Well, it was. Only Bob Marley does reggae.
No, that was just some island music.
And you know, I guess I only associate Bob Marley with
reggae, every island reggae. Isn't that like interchangeable?
I don't. Say island, I don't know what
some island island. I don't never heard of that, but
that's reggae. But you know, you be 40s.
I think they're British, so. Well, this isn't this isn't a
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sip on a fire. This is You're on the Beach, the
song. Well, you could be on a beach,
you could also be driving in a car.
You could also be on a dance club or all kinds of stuff.
I told you your situation though, is we're sitting among
friends listening. You used to music in the
backyard by a fire. Yeah, there's a difference
between the fire and the beach. You could do both.
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No you can't. It not.
Your imagination scenario is falling apart here.
I'll tell you what did we were how many songs into this?
And I'm. My blood pressure is getting up
there. Here we go.
You ready? Yeah.
That's how I feel about you right now.
That's how I feel too. B minus what B minus you gave.
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You gave the reggae version lessthan the original.
Yeah. That's just because you're being
pissy. That's not whoa, whoa, whoa.
You know you are. Whoa.
All right, that OK, So that was not Bob Marley.
The next one is Bob Marley. And that's just a coincidence.
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That's just a coincidence because the I did listen to the
playlist and when I was listening, I'm like, man, this
sounds like Bob Marley. And then I looked and it was
not. And then this next song.
You can see though, how with your untrained mind, which you
have, and your lack of knowledgewhen it comes to music, how you
think all reggae is Bob Marley. You see how that's an issue,
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right? That's like saying all country
is Rascal Flatts. It just doesn't work that way.
I. Mean Rascal Flatts is.
Pretty good, I know, but it's not all country music, so that's
why we're here. You got to expand.
And if you stop trying to put where you would dance to this or
whatever, we're sitting by a fire listening to multiple
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genres. That's the whole point.
Well, yes, OK. Let's go, OK.
Let's keep. We'll never.
We're going to. Eventually we're going to have
to agree to disagree on this when I have a feeling this is
Bob Marley from 77 All right, waiting in vain.
Waiting in vain. All right, well, let's take a
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listen. Oh, boy.
Hold on. Yeah, I know.
I'm slacking today. Let's take a listen on the vinyl
curriculum. Here's Bob Marley.
Logan yes, that was. Reggae, that was Bob Marley,
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Yes, it was. What do you think?
It's not bad. I think you're right.
I think for reggae purposes you're not dancing to reggae.
But that's not what we're grading on today.
Our dancing you will dance to reggae, people will dance to
reggae. That's what you don't understand
your your definition of dance music is 90's pop dance music
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and you got to stop it. Well, we're that's what we're.
Working. I didn't mind that song though,
it was back. It was very similar to the UB40
song though. Reggae has that beat.
It's steel. Drums.
You know, some steel guitar. Let me tell you something about
that, that that song. But we we went on a cruise once,
my wife and I, and then I forgothow old we were.
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But anyway, we were set with this group of, you know, when
you on a cruise, you sit with the same people at tables and
you get to know him a little bit.
But, you know, and then you'd goabout your business.
You'd see him again at the next dinner.
Well, there was a talent show and this guy showed up.
He's like, he was one of the acts.
And he sang three birds from that.
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Bob Marley did, And he had a Jamaican accent and it sounded
like amazing. We were shocked that he had this
talent that nobody knew. And then did you go up and sing
bluegrass? I did.
I sang Miley Cyrus's Wrecking Ball.
Wrecking Ball I did not. I had not been out yet, but I
would have if I could have. OK, so that was waiting in vain.
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Reggae 1977 and. We're going to give that AB
minus as well. Oh, my goodness.
OK, Fast forward to 95. Do you know who the Eurythmics
were? Yes.
Annie Lennox was a singer, right?
Maybe. Yeah, Annie Lennox is the
singer. She's since they kind of split
up. She did a bunch of solo stuff.
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They got back together for an album, they split up again,
really amazing singer and she put out an album and this was
one of the songs on her album Waiting In Vain.
OK, so she was she was one of the how many people?
Were is it 2 Think it was husband and wife.
Oh, that never works. David Stewart or something was
his name. I think they were married.
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Maybe they were just together, but they broke up and.
Never works out. All right.
Well, let's hear what Annie Lennox has to say on the vinyl
curriculum. Unlike the synth, like then it
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almost sounds like an organ, butit's I assume that's what a
synth is, synthesizer. Yeah, yeah, I.
Love the guitar picking, you know, the plucking.
And it sounds like they're in like a, it's very like church,
like kind of there's the big room, like a lot of echoes.
Like a white void like you're talking about last week with the
videos. Yeah, maybe they were.
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I wonder if she recorded in the white void.
But this was this was you said 80s. 80, No 95. 95 All right,
well, maybe, maybe she talked toMC Hammer and got to use his
white void. Yeah.
Yeah, that's I see it. It's slow, but I like that
better than the Bob Marley version.
You definitely understand her lyrics clearer.
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Yes, she's obviously, she switches it around a little bit.
But you can, I think I like thatyou can hear like understand
what she's trying to say, you know, like the music has to be
good enough for me to where whatthey're saying doesn't matter.
But in songs like these, you know, the lyrics are part of the
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music. So you have to be able to have a
connection to them right now. If she was singing that song,
saying, talking about her umbrella over and over again, we
wouldn't be listening to it, right?
Yeah, we can deal with umbrella because we're dancing to it.
But in that case, you you're listening to lyrics and that's
what's nice about it. They slow it down and you can
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really understand the lyrics so.B plus.
OK, go on. B Plus.
I'm just curious if we're ever going to get AI.
Actually don't think we are today, but probably not the next
one now is 1964 pre Gym P downtown.
This is PJPJ downtown was the name of the song.
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Her name is Petulia Clark. When Karen and I went on our
honeymoon to New York City and then we went to Vermont, New
Hampshire, Maine, we kind of dida city country thing.
We saw her. That's where you went on your
honeymoon. In October.
Whoa, it was gorgeous. But we we saw a Broadway show
with Petula, Petula Clark, DavidCassidy and Sean Cassidy.
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You know, they were the heart throbs of the 70s and they're
brothers. And anyway, it's called Blood
Brothers. Sure.
So she was still around. This is in 93 or whatever, but
this is way back, you know, thiseasy listening pop.
So I know you're going to hate it, but this is called downtown.
Let's listen to it. OK.
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And then I Yeah, there's anothersong called Downtown, but we'll
talk about that after. This is Petulia Clark.
Yeah. On the vinyl curriculum.
When you're alone and life is making you lonely, you can
always go downtown waiting for you.
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Wow. You want to go downtown Logan?
I was downtown. Yeah, I guess so.
Man, that is powerful. Definitely get the vibe it's
1964. Yeah, not a lot of effects on
that vocal. That is just raw audio right
there. You know, it was #1 in America
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and in the UK, and she was the first British female singer in
the rock era to have number one in America.
Really interesting. I've never I've never heard her
name before. Petulia Clark.
So. It reminds me a little bit of
Lulu. Lulu was another singer from
Britain. She was in there was a did you
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ever see the movie to Sirlo withLove?
No, the point point. Yay.
I'm not saying that right. There's a song called to Sir
with love that she wrote that she's saying that in the movie
and then it released. It is one of my all time
favorites. So it's that same vibe.
Easy listening. I think we're coming in with an
A minus right there of all A minus.
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I would have never thought. I thought you would think that
was too cheesy. No, I'm, I'm a big fan of the
cheese. Big cheese guy right here.
They call me Wisconsin Boy because I don't like my cheese.
Do they really? No, I've made that up.
I'm trying to you. Said earlier, you like it when
they take a a song and kind of redo it, you know, like, really
change it up. Yeah.
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Well, that's what's fixing to happen here.
OK. This is the B52 singing
downtown. This is from their second album
that I don't know what it's called.
We it was a red album and the yellow album.
This one's yellow. This is the yellow album and did
not chart but one of my favorites from the album.
All right, let's take a listen and then maybe we'll have a
surprise third downtown song that we could.
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Maybe. Listen to a piece from here on
the vinyl curriculum. That's like a simple song.
That's how I describe that. Not a not a lot of fluff in
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there. It's just that we got the the
drum machine, you know where we're hitting the drums.
I think that was a real drummer.I don't think it has.
A well, you get the idea. And then the keyboard and then
the vocals. No fancy Flyers, it's just a
constant beat. It's not as good as the
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original. I I think it's better.
Than disagree I disagree you. You, you they were you lowered
the sound, but she said maybe I'll see you there if I can do
my hair. That's one of the best lines in
the album. In the song we're.
Going to go B minus for that. We're going to go B minus for
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that one. I forgot to mention something
about red red wine. Neil Diamond said he preferred
UB 40s version over his. Oh well, that makes sense.
I don't think you did, but. I did not know the downtown I
was thinking of was Downtown by Macklemore.
I have no idea I know who he is but.
You've never heard that downtownby Macklemore.
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Is this the? Same.
Well, it's it's similar. That'll be the bonus song of the
day. I'll have to send it to you so
you can listen to it, but it's it's.
Is it the same words though? It's no, it's not the same.
Then it's not the same just because it.
Well, just. It has the same title, doesn't
mean it's a remake. Well, yes, I would think it
does. I mean it's it's a similar.
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Vibe. OK, I give you an F for that
comment. OK All right, the next one.
Now if I'm you'll be very careful with this next one
because this is my favorite, oneof my favorite singers, Joni
Mitchell, OK, from 1976, Coyote.And the one thing I want to talk
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about, Joni Mitchell, she is Taylor Swift of the 70s and 80s,
OK? Because all of her stories are
telling something that's happened to her.
Like very. Everything is a breakup song,
yeah. Well, this is called Coyote.
She sings about how she's kind of with this guy and he's a
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coyote and he's. Anyway, you hear the lyrics and
then the next song. Is someone else, a male
interpreting this song So. She was the guy's name was
Coyote. There's a guy online, his name
is Coyote Peterson and he just his whole shtick for his YouTube
channel is getting stung by various animals.
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He'll get stuck. That's about the dumbest thing
I've ever heard. That's what I thought of when
you said Coyote. No, I think it's referring to
him being almost like a predator.
And if you listen to the and it's an actor, when she and
later in interviews you hear youcan find out who she was
actually talking about someone you would probably know.
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Throwing shade is what? She did she did that a lot like
she dated different people. And so anyway, this is, I love
Joni Mitchell, little jazzy kindof to this.
All right, let's take a listen, Joni.
Mitchell, not that kind of jazz,all right.
Let's let's listen. No regrets, Coyote.
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We just come from such differentsets of circumstance.
I'm some jazz. I feel like they're the, like,
they're not the little bongos, but they're like the tall.
I don't know what they're called.
You know the tall like drum things that you play with your
hands. I don't know anything about
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oppression instruments. Well, that's what I picture
they're playing in this song. Is the tall the tall drums?
Joni Mitchell was very folky in the 70s, and then she kind of
got a little bit more experimental as she went on and
got into jazz a little bit. And go ahead and say it, Logan,
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you. Know that one song where it's
like, I will go down with this chip.
You know that song? I will throw my hands up and
surrender. Yeah, but kind I I know, but I
don't know, because you sang it so bad.
I can't. I can't make the connection.
It's my Dido. Dido OK, Yeah.
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She Joni Mitchell reminds me of Dido.
Oh, OK, Joni Mitchell does not sound like that now.
She's still around. But her voice like in the 60s,
early 70s, it maybe it was just early 70s, very high.
And thanks to cigarettes, it just kept getting lower and
lower and lower. Yeah.
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Does she seem like this now? No, Joni Mitchell, I'm telling
you, she had a stroke or something and was not able to
sing, could hardly walk. And Brandi Carlile, one of my
favorites, and others would go to her house and do jam sessions
for weeks and weeks and weeks. And then other people would come
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in And over time, she started tapping her foot a little bit.
She ended up getting a guitar out, singing, kind of gave her a
new lease on life. She went and toured, did some
concerts with John. I mean, with Brandy, Carla.
It's just completely came at back from.
Oh yeah. But then she started.
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She kept smoking cigarettes. I don't know if she still smokes
but her voice is just lower now,like a lot lower.
Well, PSA for people to not smoke cigarettes.
Did you give me? Yes.
Did you give me a grade on that one?
No, I didn't. I think we'll go solid B.
OK, good. Solid B.
That's the kind of music you listen to their mute lyrics,
because it makes more interesting when you listen to
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it because she's saying some interesting stuff.
Absolutely. This next song is very similar.
Well, this is the same. I know, but he didn't do much
difference. But this is where reason I
wanted to play this. She had a 70th anniversary, a
70th birthday party, concert. They had it at the movie
theaters where you could go to watch the show.
And this, at this point, she was, everybody thought she was
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on death's doorstep. She they would just show her
like clapping and that she couldn't move, you know, So
people came in, they did all these things.
It was like, you know, Norah Jones and Chaka Khan was there.
So why did I even bring that up?Anyway, Glenn Hastert sang that
song. And the reason I love this is
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because he sings it live and he kills it.
Like just imagine he's doing this live and he's kind of
playing the guitar and he's singing and he goes to you gotta
listen to the whole song on the playlist because it is just
absolutely amazing. I didn't know much about him and
then I looked he there was a an album called once that they made
a Broadway show out of from his music.
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So I haven't seen it, but I knowthe song.
I see. And then I was looking at this
photo on the cover on the and I thought then very interesting.
But that's that must be Joni Mitchell right there.
Well, of course it's Joni Mitchell.
It was her birthday party. I understand that now.
I was under the Yeah, I was thinking that was Glenn Hansard.
The ones you could see. Why?
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The hair pulled back in a bun. I was confused.
OK, I didn't look that closely at it.
I just set the story up for you of why he's singing on this
album, because there's a live. Song.
Got it. I got it.
Thank you very much. This is Coyote, the live version
by Glenn Hansard, right? Yep.
On the vinyl curriculum. Let's take a listen.
No regrets, Coyote we. Just come from such different
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sets of circumstances, I'm up. On light in the studios, in your
eyes. There's a lot of emotion in that
song, a lot more emotion from Glenn Hansard, that's for sure.
Yeah, I like his version better actually.
I think I like his version better too.
We're going to go B plus there. OK.
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He's I like, I like someone who gets invested into the music and
I really feel like he's giving it 100% while he's singing, you
know, and I can appreciate. That and that's one you can see
the YouTube video of that because he, you know, like I
said, he's this up there live like a little concert going on
and there's no screw ups, there's no redos.
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He just killed it. Yeah, well, that's every live
version though, but. Well, sometimes they'll they'll
do like they'll do 2 like let's say it's Boston Live.
They'll have them record on a Friday night here and a Saturday
night here. And then sometimes they might
take this song from that one, the song kind of cheap, but that
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I guess they could have done thesame thing there.
But if they did, I didn't know about it pretty good.
I love I I'm telling you, listento Joni Mitchell.
You know, she did pay a paradiseput up a parking lot.
You know she did. Some of the ones you would know.
Put up a parking lot, you know no.
You know that song? I don't how does it go.
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Baby paradise put up your pocket.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Somebody remade it.
I forgot who it was and made it a oh it was a Counting Crows.
Yeah, Counting Crows. I know the Counting Crows
version. Yeah, OK.
The next one, have you ever heard of?
Yes. No, no, I have not.
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I shouldn't have told you on this.
Progressive I know, I love. That's my favorite feature.
This is like they were from the 70s, early 70s progressive rock.
This guy, I don't even know whathis name is.
He has such a unique sound that when you hear it, you go, oh,
that was yes, yes, yeah. So this is called Your Move from
1971. All right, your move on the
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model curriculum by and called yes, let's take a listen.
Wow, that, you know, the first time I listened to that, I got
some major sticks vibes from it.Yeah.
(35:05):
Like it's it's very like chorus,I guess I don't know if that's
the right word. Chorusy where it sounds like a
chorus of people like harmonizing.
Yeah. And it that's.
What groups do sometimes? It still gave me sticks vibes.
Though they were pre sticks but yeah I know what you're talking
about. That's a yes sound.
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That's what they sounded like. Well, yes.
But the song, the song is way more than that.
And it gets. It builds.
And it builds, and it builds. Doesn't but it I feel like it
builds, but it doesn't ever build to anything.
That was my other thought the first time I had it.
It's like it continues, you're waiting for that, the beat drop
and it just, it doesn't come. Turn it back up.
(35:47):
There's an organ. How often do you hear organ and
you're listening? Well, this is about the third
song today. That's an organ.
Is that a no? That's an organ.
Organ. Like that's a cathedral organ.
Yeah. All right, all right.
Give me your grade. I'll give it AB plus.
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OK, good. Now the next one is 19, 93, so
22 years later, Robert Downey Junior.
So crazy that he put out an album and it's mediocre.
But this song I love. He's got a good voice and the
guy from Yes sings with him, so that's why it's got a very
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similar sound when the chorus. Well, when I the first time I,
when I listened to it on the podcast I have on my Apple
Music, it fades from one song tothe next.
So I hadn't even realized that the second version is certain.
I'm like, wow, this is a really long song.
And yeah, he does have a good voice, though.
Rap Downing, Junior Iron Man. And this is when he was still
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kind of in. He was trying to reinvent
himself. You know, he had some personal
issues and he was trying to reinvent himself.
And this is this is before Iron Man came out.
Oh, yeah, no, I know. Let's take a listen though.
Iron Man. Robert Downey Junior, you are.
Move on the mile curriculum. Take a straight a stronger
(37:15):
course to the corner. That has some higher energy than
the first one. I think I like the first one
better though. This the yes, Styx, we'll call
it the Styx version. That's what I'm going to call
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it. I just, I just think it's
surprising. That about Robert Downey
Channel. I think it is too.
I this one has a little bit building and then it actually
builds. I feel like it builds to
something as opposed to the first one that kind of just
continuously builds and builds and never really gets there.
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Yeah, well, it does sound like yes.
So with the singer there, he also did.
There was a Christian group named for him that he came and
sang with them. A pretty popular song.
So he must like to sing on otherpeople's stuff I guess.
OK, solid beef. OK, one more common people is
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the name of the song. Well, 22 songs more.
One more song, 2 versions and common people.
The first one was alt alternative rock from the 80s by
a group called Pulp and they sang a really great song called
(38:40):
Babies, which is one of my favorite songs from that genre.
But this was called Common People.
It did fairly well in England #2didn't do anything over here in
America. I don't know how I feel about
this. Common people.
No, I just I like my orange juice without pulp, so I I.
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Hit the button. Hit the button no the want want
want button. That has a familiar vibe to me.
(39:24):
I don't think I've ever heard a Pulp song, but it's I don't know
what song it sounds like. I was trying to think of it
while I was listening. Or like we do, did we do babies
already on the Brit pop one babies babies by Paul we could
have. That's a good question.
But yeah, this one's a little. It doesn't really do much.
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It just kind of. So I as an original, I don't, I
didn't know it because it didn't, it was #2 in on the UK
charts, but it didn't do much inAmerica, so I didn't really know
about it. Yeah, we did not do babies.
Now one. Of these days, I want to do the
baby song. It's amazing.
OK, I remember we talked about them, but I don't think we did
it. But this next one is William
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Shatner. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
I didn't give a grave yet. You're jumping ahead of yourself
here. Let me get back to the right
sheet. You.
Got a plus on there. No, we'll go B plus though, OK,
It's a little faster. Pace, it gets upbeat, it gets
more upbeat as you go and he builds and everything so he.
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Is building to something now. That's what I like to see.
The next one, though, is WilliamShatner.
Which the actors think, Yeah, you think what?
The world, obviously he's talking, but when the course
comes in is Joe Jackson. Joe Jackson.
He was like popular in the 80s. Like Shoeless Joe Jackson.
Like the baseball? Player it's the same 1.
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Logan, it's the exact same person.
He started singing. No Joe Jackson. 1st if you do
not give me the attitude, because the other person on this
album is William Shatner the actor.
That's true. So you can see how I made that
enormous jump. From baseball, Shoeless Joe
Jackson was like from the 30s, wasn't it?
(41:09):
I mean he would be 100 and something.
I mean, that's your childhood, so I wouldn't.
Yeah. Oh, that was the wrong button.
Anyway, this is William Shatner.Let's see what you say.
Thank you. Stop it.
Thank you. Stick with this, stick with this
people, until you get to the chorus, because it makes it.
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All right. William Shatner on the final
curriculum. She came from Greece.
She had a thirst for knowledge. She studied sculpture at Saint
Martin's College. That's where I caught her eye.
That is. Oh, that is not at all what I
thought he'd sound like. William Shatner?
(41:54):
Yeah. Tubeless Joe Jackson?
No, that sounds just like if youever watched Star Trek that he
would. So that's not him singing
though. No, that's Joe Jackson.
Oh, you can see that's I literally just said wow, he
sounds not like I thought he would when he sings, but William
Shatner's just. Talking that he just does
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talking now there's a fire going.
There's all kind of stuff going on.
Now you got to listen to the whole song.
It's amazing. I just love that song.
It is quality. I think I got to go a minus.
Yeah. That's how old was this song.
When did the song come out? This.
Is 95, Yeah, no, this 2004 OK, 95 was the original.
(42:38):
I was going to say this. This feels later.
This feels more modern than the first one.
Yeah. So I like it better.
But Joe Jack, Joe Jackson makes it.
Oh yeah. You get so into it.
What other what other groups is he in?
He was Joe Jackson. He did.
Thank you. Stepping out.
Stepping out into. Yeah, because I he sounds
(43:01):
familiar. OK.
Anyway, go listen to that album.That song is amazing.
That is. Quality and William Shatner
would appreciate it. He would.
And you can tell your friends I just listened to a William
Shatner song on Spotify or AppleMusic.
I'm doing the Spock thing with my hand.
I can do it with this hand. Look boom.
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Also with this hand. Everybody could do that.
Not everybody can do that. Really, Really.
Overall, I think for cover songs, it's not going to be the
highest grade that I've ever given out, that's for sure, I
think. It's very eclectic, so it'd be
hard. Eclectic.
Do you understand what eclectic means when you have bluegrass,
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70s folk, 60s, Brit pop? It's it's very eclectic.
Yeah, we're going to go solid B.OK.
That's the B that's respectable.Logan, I give you.
I will give you AB plus for first of all listening to the
playlist ahead of time which I don't know if you did 100% but I
I. Told you I didn't listen to the
last two songs I know because you said we weren't doing that.
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No, I said don't You don't have to listen to the Pulp version
all the way through because so see that you would have given
that A+ if you had listened to the whole thing.
But I I give you AB plus for effort.
Thank you, thank you. It's.
Amazing what happens, the good things happen when you put forth
effort. OK.
I appreciate that. But remember, we do have a
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Facebook Instagram accounts, so you please follow us on that and
we would love to hear feedback on those channels, especially if
they're pro gym and kind of con Logan.
Also listen to the playlist and the the podcast drops every
Thursday. Yes, and you can find the
(44:51):
playlist in the bio, in the linkin the bio and the Instagram
page. It's Vinyl curriculum.carrd.co.
That is the website you can go to find all the playlists for
all the episodes that we've doneso far, links to the Spotify
channel and the Apple Podcast channel.
We're also on pretty much everywhere.
(45:11):
You get your podcast, Apple Podcast, Spotify, iHeartRadio,
everywhere there's podcast. That's where we're at.
So we appreciate you listening so much.
I think I do more than Jim does,just a little bit.
No, no, no. But please follow us on those.
Whatever media player you're listening to the podcast, follow
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us so you get notifications whenthey drop.
And on the Instagram, you can see Jim's concert that he went
to with him and. Beach Bunny.
Beach Bunny. Sure, beach Bunny.
All right. Well, this was a good one.
Great playlist again Jim and we will catch you all on the next
one. Bye.
Every record tells a story. Independent labels.
I think a lot of interesting songs came out of that.
And every generation has a soundtrack.
The only hip you have in your body is made of titanium.
This is the vinyl curriculum with Logan.
Apparently I don't know very much about anything.
Somebody calls her Tay Tay. Welcome back to another episode
(00:24):
of the Vinyl Curriculum. Logan and Jim here recording
live in the podcast studio. Jim, how we doing today?
Doing really well today, are you?
I'm a little anxious but. Why is that?
Well, 'cause this is going to bea challenge for you, I know
this. For me, this could be a
challenge. Why do you say that?
The theme this week, Logan, is covers, and so not only are we
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going to compare originals with cover songs, but we're going to
explore various genres that are going to push your limits.
I see. OK, We've got everything from
alternative to post punk. We got bluegrass, we got soft
rock, we got Brit pop. Brit Pop.
Pop soul, little bit of everything and then we've got
(01:07):
some extra. I'll I'll turn.
I don't know what you call them like different.
Like. Actors, you remember you did the
guy from Star is Born. Yes, Brandon, we've got a couple
of other actors who are going tobe on this this playlist.
Oh, so I'll probably like that then.
It is. Crucial if you listen to this
(01:30):
podcast, this playlist ahead of time.
So I'm asking if you're in the audience, listen to this play
that's ahead of time because you're going to think, Oh no,
no, that's not going to work. But when you hear it, you might
be surprised. Yeah, no, I I did listen to the
playlist. Contrary to popular belief, that
is what I do. We'll find out.
I listen to the playlist. But before we start though, you
(01:52):
had a an interesting weekend. Yeah, I want to get a little
mini concert review. I went to the South Shed this
weekend with my son. We saw beach Bunny pool party.
Beach Bunny was now. Beach Bunny, It was the beach
Bunny pool party. OK.
And it was? Sounds like a made-up name.
Five artists and it was Beach Bunny, Soccer Mommy, Granddaddy
(02:13):
and Annie Derusso. And there was one other person
that we didn't see. You saw the whole family then.
Kind of, yeah, it was really good.
It was a lot of fun. I actually met Beach Bunny, had
my photo taken with her. There's a photo on our social
media channel if you want to seeme and Beach Bunny.
At the vinyl curriculum at vinylcurriculum, I'm sorry, you know
the and vinyl curriculum on Instagram and Facebook.
(02:35):
That's right. Anyway, it's a lot of fun.
I I get the the day was an. A The day was an the.
Only just the the part that I struggled with was Soccer Mommy,
who was really who I wanted to go see.
They were having audio troubles on her vocals, so it was hard to
hear. Yeah.
What's up with that? I don't know, but I hope if
you're listening Soccer Mommy, your audio person needed little
(02:58):
assistance. Did you tell her to follow the
podcast at the Vinyl? Cry did not but modify an Apple
podcast. But Beach Bunny did view the
post. She didn't like it because I
didn't, I didn't post a video ofher performing.
I just posted a photo with me and obviously that was not
enough for her to share to her group.
But. She only has 187,000 followers,
(03:21):
so that would have really been agood boost to our audience.
But yeah, that's not what we're talking about today.
Today we're talking about cover songs.
And you know how we always startoff upbeat?
It's yes. This is going to be upbeat
because this is just a a Cure song.
You know who the Cure are, correct?
We've we've listened to them before.
(03:41):
I have. We have.
This one is just like heaven. Yep, love the song.
So we're going to listen to it in its original form and then
we'll listen to someone how theythey interpret it in a different
genre. Someone how they.
Interpret How did they interpretthis song in a different genre?
So we're going to find out whether this is the first
(04:02):
original. 1st, I'm struggling tofollow you, but this is the
Cure. Let's take a listen to the first
song here on the Vinyl curriculum.
So listening to that song, Jim, we've done that song.
(04:27):
Before we did, we did these. On episode #3 The Second British
Invasion And what do you have tosay for yourself?
I love that song, why not listento it twice?
OK. That was from 1987.
OK, 1987 was 11 years before I was born I think.
(04:50):
That's not relevant. That's the year I graduated
college. That's more.
Relevant. It was.
It was. Oh my gosh.
This was the first major hit that they had.
OK. So that was, you know, we set
the, the, the stage for that. I absolutely do not.
We should have. Did you bring your paper with?
I would have it on the computer,but I would you say it and then
(05:12):
I'm going to go judge you and see if you're gotten better or
not. Well, knowing what the rest of
this playlist is, I think I don't even know what should we
what we're going to give it. We're going to give it a solid B
star. Oh gosh, a solid B star.
Oh. Lord, it's going to be a long
day. OK, great song in my this A for
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me for sure. Now, this is the infamous string
dusters. I remember talking about them.
Remember I said one of these days we're going to do this and
we're going to do a covers because there's a version of
this same song. Bluegrass.
Yeah, and bluegrass, like bluegrass to me.
Now. I'm just going to say this,
Lord, you know, for, for to givethe people an idea of what my
(06:01):
thought is. When I hear the word bluegrass,
I see a lot of banjo. I see a lot of tall grass, you
know, overalls playing the banjowith one of those, what do you
call it? Like pieces of hay in your
mouth? That's what I see.
That's what I see you, Jim, listening to when he talks about
(06:25):
bluegrass. That's what I picture in my head
is just Jim sitting on a log playing the banjo in overalls.
That's what I do. With a piece of hay.
On a regular basis. I know we just saw Alison Krauss
and Union Station Bluegrass and they were absolutely amazing.
They were, yeah, absolutely amazing.
And what did what Did they sing popular songs like remixes of
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songs or are? They they are, they are country
slash bluegrass. And so they've had several hits.
If you listen to country stations, you would know who
Alison Krauss was and she was born in Champaign, IL.
Sure. All right, just like Kevin, the
infamous string dusters. This is from 2012.
So they this is, I'd had to do my math, but that's like 25
years later they released this, this is. 13 years ago, Yeah.
(07:12):
And I'm 26. It's irrelevant.
And that's 13 years plus 11 is 24 years, Mr. Math.
I was. Doing it on the fly.
OK, 24 years later, Just like heaven by the infamous string
dusters here on the vinyl curriculum, Let's take a listen.
(07:40):
I wasn't that far off. From.
From Banjo and. No, that's bluegrass.
Yeehaw. Not really yeehaw, but it's kind
of no. Twangy.
The thing about, I think I talked about this before, the
thing about when you go see a bluegrass group play, they are
so talented and they all play different banjos, mandolins,
(08:04):
fiddles, and you know, they'll play a song and then the fiddle
player will do a little solo. It's just super talented, fast,
usually fast, quick beats. Yeah.
Now, before I say anything, before you say anything, Logan,
we need to set some parameters. I should have done this earlier.
You always say I don't know how I would dance to that.
I don't know how where I see myself listening to that song.
(08:26):
Well, I know how I dance to thisone.
I'm setting the stage. You are.
It's a crisp. Imagine.
Shut your eyes and imagine. Is it crisp?
OK, hold on. A crisp fall evening.
Your work's done. You're sitting by a fire pit in
the backyard with friends. If you do, you have friends,
(08:47):
Logan? No, well, I have quite.
But we're imagining that you have friends.
You. Don't talk to me when we're not
recording. That's.
Right. And people are just playing some
of their songs and you're just listening.
So that's what you're doing. You're just listening to these
songs, you're chilled out, some are going to be upbeat, some are
going to be slow, and you're just being exposed to different
things. So this is the set I'm trying to
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the location of how you're goingto be listening to this.
See, I'm that's not what I picked.
Up so you will be. You will not be dancing.
That's but I I could dance to this song you.
Could this? Is like a you know you're at a
line dance, but we're not. The whole point is we're not
judging this on whether or not we can dance.
I just told you this is a new We're trying to set a new stage.
Are we now? Chilling listening with friends
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of some of the songs they like. OK.
OK. Having said all that.
I think I like the bluegrass version better than the original
version. OK, that's good.
So I'd give that I think I, I'm,I'm torn between AB plus and an
A minus because I know how I graded songs last week and I
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don't think that song lived up to last week's songs. 90s dance.
If you haven't heard that episode of the vinyl curriculum
that's out now on Spotify and Apple podcast, but I think I got
to go B plus for that one. So we were we took a half step
up from the original, which was a solid B to the B plus
(10:13):
category. That's a high B plus though.
I'd give it I'd give it probablyan 89 an 89.
OK, we're. Going to round that up to 80. 9
No, that's not how that works. We're not.
We're not comparing last week's to this week's.
We're just talking about this week.
Well. What I like about some of these
cover songs is especially if it's something like this, where
it's it's easier to understand the lyrics, you hear it a
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different way because then you understand what they're saying a
little bit easier. And sometimes, like you, even
with Ozzy, you know, you listen to the lyrics of some of his
songs. You don't really hear him
singing it, but when you hear someone else sing it, you're
like, oh, that was those lyrics are pretty good, you know?
But sometimes when it's loud or if it's dance music, you don't,
you don't pay as much attention to the lyrics.
(10:58):
Well, and Ozzy is is Ozzy, so yeah, you're more listening to
the melody and the music anyway.Right, but he's got good lyrics
sometimes. Yeah.
All right, OK, Well, you know this.
We're starting. That's a good start for you.
The next one is red, red, red red wine.
And this, by the way, this is also a different format than
we're used to. We're we're.
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We didn't explain this at the start, but two, we're listening
to the same song essentially 2 times in a row.
We're. Just told we don't we talk about
that. Well, but I just wanted to
reiterate this is this is throwing me off my rhythm.
Everything is I know. This is throwing me off my
rhythm. Lo, it's very easy to do that to
you. It is.
So the first version came out in67.
(11:40):
The next one was in 83. Yeah.
Red, red wine. Yes.
Do you know, you know Sweet Caroline when you go to the ball
game? Yeah.
Neil Diamond. Yes, I know who Neil Diamond is.
This is early song of his I think.
I don't know who Neil Diamond is. 1967 Yeah, Red red wine.
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Is he still alive? Yes, Neil Diamond.
Is I'm guessing, but I think he is.
All right, well, while we listen, let's let's look that up
because I'm, I'd like to go see him in concert.
This is Neil Diamond on the vinyl curriculum.
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See, this isn't the song that I'm familiar with, Jim.
You know that that's. The whole point is it, but so,
so yeah, I know you couldn't dance to this.
Well, actually, you could dance to this if you dance slow dance,
but but if you're sitting out chilling, that would not be a
bad song. I mean, that's old.
That's 67. I don't know if that's a sitting
by the fire sign. That's like an evening on the
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patio song. That's what we're doing.
We're just not sitting on the patio.
We're sitting by the fire. Yeah, but it's but you're
talking about when it's dark out.
This is like an evening time song.
Evening is not dark. Sunset.
The sun is setting in the distance over the cornfields.
Because you live by the cornfields.
Yeah, No, you don't. I live in Plainfield.
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I know, but you don't. You drive 5 minutes in in.
But you don't see it from your backyard.
Well, I imagine this is all about I'm.
Imagining you with friends sitting around a fire, That
would be a decent song. You know it's not the
everybody's not not talking because they're listening
intently. They're just listening to the
song and talking. Yeah, I've got to give that
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another B. OK.
That's that's that's another beef salad.
I think you the 1, you know, is we're going to do it next.
It's interesting thing about this though.
This is UB40. They released this in 83, Big
hit in England, didn't really doanything here.
And then like in 88, they had this Nelson Mandela birthday
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party. You know who he was?
He was imprisoned in South Africa and they were.
So it's like a benefit awarenessconcert and they performed this
song live, it picked up and it ended up being a #1 here in
America. So they re released it five
years later. And this UB40.
UB40. Is not who I thought sang this
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song, to be honest with you. I guess we could talk about that
after. Listen and say who?
Maybe somebody else? I'm sure other people have done
it. All right, let's take a listen.
Go through my head. See, I thought that was Bob
Marley. Because it was reggae.
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Well, it was. Only Bob Marley does reggae.
No, that was just some island music.
And you know, I guess I only associate Bob Marley with
reggae, every island reggae. Isn't that like interchangeable?
I don't. Say island, I don't know what
some island island. I don't never heard of that, but
that's reggae. But you know, you be 40s.
I think they're British, so. Well, this isn't this isn't a
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sip on a fire. This is You're on the Beach, the
song. Well, you could be on a beach,
you could also be driving in a car.
You could also be on a dance club or all kinds of stuff.
I told you your situation though, is we're sitting among
friends listening. You used to music in the
backyard by a fire. Yeah, there's a difference
between the fire and the beach. You could do both.
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No you can't. It not.
Your imagination scenario is falling apart here.
I'll tell you what did we were how many songs into this?
And I'm. My blood pressure is getting up
there. Here we go.
You ready? Yeah.
That's how I feel about you right now.
That's how I feel too. B minus what B minus you gave.
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You gave the reggae version lessthan the original.
Yeah. That's just because you're being
pissy. That's not whoa, whoa, whoa.
You know you are. Whoa.
All right, that OK, So that was not Bob Marley.
The next one is Bob Marley. And that's just a coincidence.
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That's just a coincidence because the I did listen to the
playlist and when I was listening, I'm like, man, this
sounds like Bob Marley. And then I looked and it was
not. And then this next song.
You can see though, how with your untrained mind, which you
have, and your lack of knowledgewhen it comes to music, how you
think all reggae is Bob Marley. You see how that's an issue,
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right? That's like saying all country
is Rascal Flatts. It just doesn't work that way.
I. Mean Rascal Flatts is.
Pretty good, I know, but it's not all country music, so that's
why we're here. You got to expand.
And if you stop trying to put where you would dance to this or
whatever, we're sitting by a fire listening to multiple
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genres. That's the whole point.
Well, yes, OK. Let's go, OK.
Let's keep. We'll never.
We're going to. Eventually we're going to have
to agree to disagree on this when I have a feeling this is
Bob Marley from 77 All right, waiting in vain.
Waiting in vain. All right, well, let's take a
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listen. Oh, boy.
Hold on. Yeah, I know.
I'm slacking today. Let's take a listen on the vinyl
curriculum. Here's Bob Marley.
Logan yes, that was. Reggae, that was Bob Marley,
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Yes, it was. What do you think?
It's not bad. I think you're right.
I think for reggae purposes you're not dancing to reggae.
But that's not what we're grading on today.
Our dancing you will dance to reggae, people will dance to
reggae. That's what you don't understand
your your definition of dance music is 90's pop dance music
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and you got to stop it. Well, we're that's what we're.
Working. I didn't mind that song though,
it was back. It was very similar to the UB40
song though. Reggae has that beat.
It's steel. Drums.
You know, some steel guitar. Let me tell you something about
that, that that song. But we we went on a cruise once,
my wife and I, and then I forgothow old we were.
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But anyway, we were set with this group of, you know, when
you on a cruise, you sit with the same people at tables and
you get to know him a little bit.
But, you know, and then you'd goabout your business.
You'd see him again at the next dinner.
Well, there was a talent show and this guy showed up.
He's like, he was one of the acts.
And he sang three birds from that.
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Bob Marley did, And he had a Jamaican accent and it sounded
like amazing. We were shocked that he had this
talent that nobody knew. And then did you go up and sing
bluegrass? I did.
I sang Miley Cyrus's Wrecking Ball.
Wrecking Ball I did not. I had not been out yet, but I
would have if I could have. OK, so that was waiting in vain.
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Reggae 1977 and. We're going to give that AB
minus as well. Oh, my goodness.
OK, Fast forward to 95. Do you know who the Eurythmics
were? Yes.
Annie Lennox was a singer, right?
Maybe. Yeah, Annie Lennox is the
singer. She's since they kind of split
up. She did a bunch of solo stuff.
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They got back together for an album, they split up again,
really amazing singer and she put out an album and this was
one of the songs on her album Waiting In Vain.
OK, so she was she was one of the how many people?
Were is it 2 Think it was husband and wife.
Oh, that never works. David Stewart or something was
his name. I think they were married.
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Maybe they were just together, but they broke up and.
Never works out. All right.
Well, let's hear what Annie Lennox has to say on the vinyl
curriculum. Unlike the synth, like then it
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almost sounds like an organ, butit's I assume that's what a
synth is, synthesizer. Yeah, yeah, I.
Love the guitar picking, you know, the plucking.
And it sounds like they're in like a, it's very like church,
like kind of there's the big room, like a lot of echoes.
Like a white void like you're talking about last week with the
videos. Yeah, maybe they were.
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I wonder if she recorded in the white void.
But this was this was you said 80s. 80, No 95. 95 All right,
well, maybe, maybe she talked toMC Hammer and got to use his
white void. Yeah.
Yeah, that's I see it. It's slow, but I like that
better than the Bob Marley version.
You definitely understand her lyrics clearer.
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Yes, she's obviously, she switches it around a little bit.
But you can, I think I like thatyou can hear like understand
what she's trying to say, you know, like the music has to be
good enough for me to where whatthey're saying doesn't matter.
But in songs like these, you know, the lyrics are part of the
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music. So you have to be able to have a
connection to them right now. If she was singing that song,
saying, talking about her umbrella over and over again, we
wouldn't be listening to it, right?
Yeah, we can deal with umbrella because we're dancing to it.
But in that case, you you're listening to lyrics and that's
what's nice about it. They slow it down and you can
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really understand the lyrics so.B plus.
OK, go on. B Plus.
I'm just curious if we're ever going to get AI.
Actually don't think we are today, but probably not the next
one now is 1964 pre Gym P downtown.
This is PJPJ downtown was the name of the song.
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Her name is Petulia Clark. When Karen and I went on our
honeymoon to New York City and then we went to Vermont, New
Hampshire, Maine, we kind of dida city country thing.
We saw her. That's where you went on your
honeymoon. In October.
Whoa, it was gorgeous. But we we saw a Broadway show
with Petula, Petula Clark, DavidCassidy and Sean Cassidy.
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You know, they were the heart throbs of the 70s and they're
brothers. And anyway, it's called Blood
Brothers. Sure.
So she was still around. This is in 93 or whatever, but
this is way back, you know, thiseasy listening pop.
So I know you're going to hate it, but this is called downtown.
Let's listen to it. OK.
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And then I Yeah, there's anothersong called Downtown, but we'll
talk about that after. This is Petulia Clark.
Yeah. On the vinyl curriculum.
When you're alone and life is making you lonely, you can
always go downtown waiting for you.
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Wow. You want to go downtown Logan?
I was downtown. Yeah, I guess so.
Man, that is powerful. Definitely get the vibe it's
1964. Yeah, not a lot of effects on
that vocal. That is just raw audio right
there. You know, it was #1 in America
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and in the UK, and she was the first British female singer in
the rock era to have number one in America.
Really interesting. I've never I've never heard her
name before. Petulia Clark.
So. It reminds me a little bit of
Lulu. Lulu was another singer from
Britain. She was in there was a did you
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ever see the movie to Sirlo withLove?
No, the point point. Yay.
I'm not saying that right. There's a song called to Sir
with love that she wrote that she's saying that in the movie
and then it released. It is one of my all time
favorites. So it's that same vibe.
Easy listening. I think we're coming in with an
A minus right there of all A minus.
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I would have never thought. I thought you would think that
was too cheesy. No, I'm, I'm a big fan of the
cheese. Big cheese guy right here.
They call me Wisconsin Boy because I don't like my cheese.
Do they really? No, I've made that up.
I'm trying to you. Said earlier, you like it when
they take a a song and kind of redo it, you know, like, really
change it up. Yeah.
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Well, that's what's fixing to happen here.
OK. This is the B52 singing
downtown. This is from their second album
that I don't know what it's called.
We it was a red album and the yellow album.
This one's yellow. This is the yellow album and did
not chart but one of my favorites from the album.
All right, let's take a listen and then maybe we'll have a
surprise third downtown song that we could.
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Maybe. Listen to a piece from here on
the vinyl curriculum. That's like a simple song.
That's how I describe that. Not a not a lot of fluff in
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there. It's just that we got the the
drum machine, you know where we're hitting the drums.
I think that was a real drummer.I don't think it has.
A well, you get the idea. And then the keyboard and then
the vocals. No fancy Flyers, it's just a
constant beat. It's not as good as the
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original. I I think it's better.
Than disagree I disagree you. You, you they were you lowered
the sound, but she said maybe I'll see you there if I can do
my hair. That's one of the best lines in
the album. In the song we're.
Going to go B minus for that. We're going to go B minus for
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that one. I forgot to mention something
about red red wine. Neil Diamond said he preferred
UB 40s version over his. Oh well, that makes sense.
I don't think you did, but. I did not know the downtown I
was thinking of was Downtown by Macklemore.
I have no idea I know who he is but.
You've never heard that downtownby Macklemore.
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Is this the? Same.
Well, it's it's similar. That'll be the bonus song of the
day. I'll have to send it to you so
you can listen to it, but it's it's.
Is it the same words though? It's no, it's not the same.
Then it's not the same just because it.
Well, just. It has the same title, doesn't
mean it's a remake. Well, yes, I would think it
does. I mean it's it's a similar.
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Vibe. OK, I give you an F for that
comment. OK All right, the next one.
Now if I'm you'll be very careful with this next one
because this is my favorite, oneof my favorite singers, Joni
Mitchell, OK, from 1976, Coyote.And the one thing I want to talk
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about, Joni Mitchell, she is Taylor Swift of the 70s and 80s,
OK? Because all of her stories are
telling something that's happened to her.
Like very. Everything is a breakup song,
yeah. Well, this is called Coyote.
She sings about how she's kind of with this guy and he's a
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coyote and he's. Anyway, you hear the lyrics and
then the next song. Is someone else, a male
interpreting this song So. She was the guy's name was
Coyote. There's a guy online, his name
is Coyote Peterson and he just his whole shtick for his YouTube
channel is getting stung by various animals.
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He'll get stuck. That's about the dumbest thing
I've ever heard. That's what I thought of when
you said Coyote. No, I think it's referring to
him being almost like a predator.
And if you listen to the and it's an actor, when she and
later in interviews you hear youcan find out who she was
actually talking about someone you would probably know.
(27:59):
Throwing shade is what? She did she did that a lot like
she dated different people. And so anyway, this is, I love
Joni Mitchell, little jazzy kindof to this.
All right, let's take a listen, Joni.
Mitchell, not that kind of jazz,all right.
Let's let's listen. No regrets, Coyote.
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We just come from such differentsets of circumstance.
I'm some jazz. I feel like they're the, like,
they're not the little bongos, but they're like the tall.
I don't know what they're called.
You know the tall like drum things that you play with your
hands. I don't know anything about
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oppression instruments. Well, that's what I picture
they're playing in this song. Is the tall the tall drums?
Joni Mitchell was very folky in the 70s, and then she kind of
got a little bit more experimental as she went on and
got into jazz a little bit. And go ahead and say it, Logan,
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you. Know that one song where it's
like, I will go down with this chip.
You know that song? I will throw my hands up and
surrender. Yeah, but kind I I know, but I
don't know, because you sang it so bad.
I can't. I can't make the connection.
It's my Dido. Dido OK, Yeah.
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She Joni Mitchell reminds me of Dido.
Oh, OK, Joni Mitchell does not sound like that now.
She's still around. But her voice like in the 60s,
early 70s, it maybe it was just early 70s, very high.
And thanks to cigarettes, it just kept getting lower and
lower and lower. Yeah.
(29:41):
Does she seem like this now? No, Joni Mitchell, I'm telling
you, she had a stroke or something and was not able to
sing, could hardly walk. And Brandi Carlile, one of my
favorites, and others would go to her house and do jam sessions
for weeks and weeks and weeks. And then other people would come
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in And over time, she started tapping her foot a little bit.
She ended up getting a guitar out, singing, kind of gave her a
new lease on life. She went and toured, did some
concerts with John. I mean, with Brandy, Carla.
It's just completely came at back from.
Oh yeah. But then she started.
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She kept smoking cigarettes. I don't know if she still smokes
but her voice is just lower now,like a lot lower.
Well, PSA for people to not smoke cigarettes.
Did you give me? Yes.
Did you give me a grade on that one?
No, I didn't. I think we'll go solid B.
OK, good. Solid B.
That's the kind of music you listen to their mute lyrics,
because it makes more interesting when you listen to
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it because she's saying some interesting stuff.
Absolutely. This next song is very similar.
Well, this is the same. I know, but he didn't do much
difference. But this is where reason I
wanted to play this. She had a 70th anniversary, a
70th birthday party, concert. They had it at the movie
theaters where you could go to watch the show.
And this, at this point, she was, everybody thought she was
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on death's doorstep. She they would just show her
like clapping and that she couldn't move, you know, So
people came in, they did all these things.
It was like, you know, Norah Jones and Chaka Khan was there.
So why did I even bring that up?Anyway, Glenn Hastert sang that
song. And the reason I love this is
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because he sings it live and he kills it.
Like just imagine he's doing this live and he's kind of
playing the guitar and he's singing and he goes to you gotta
listen to the whole song on the playlist because it is just
absolutely amazing. I didn't know much about him and
then I looked he there was a an album called once that they made
a Broadway show out of from his music.
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So I haven't seen it, but I knowthe song.
I see. And then I was looking at this
photo on the cover on the and I thought then very interesting.
But that's that must be Joni Mitchell right there.
Well, of course it's Joni Mitchell.
It was her birthday party. I understand that now.
I was under the Yeah, I was thinking that was Glenn Hansard.
The ones you could see. Why?
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The hair pulled back in a bun. I was confused.
OK, I didn't look that closely at it.
I just set the story up for you of why he's singing on this
album, because there's a live. Song.
Got it. I got it.
Thank you very much. This is Coyote, the live version
by Glenn Hansard, right? Yep.
On the vinyl curriculum. Let's take a listen.
No regrets, Coyote we. Just come from such different
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sets of circumstances, I'm up. On light in the studios, in your
eyes. There's a lot of emotion in that
song, a lot more emotion from Glenn Hansard, that's for sure.
Yeah, I like his version better actually.
I think I like his version better too.
We're going to go B plus there. OK.
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He's I like, I like someone who gets invested into the music and
I really feel like he's giving it 100% while he's singing, you
know, and I can appreciate. That and that's one you can see
the YouTube video of that because he, you know, like I
said, he's this up there live like a little concert going on
and there's no screw ups, there's no redos.
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He just killed it. Yeah, well, that's every live
version though, but. Well, sometimes they'll they'll
do like they'll do 2 like let's say it's Boston Live.
They'll have them record on a Friday night here and a Saturday
night here. And then sometimes they might
take this song from that one, the song kind of cheap, but that
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I guess they could have done thesame thing there.
But if they did, I didn't know about it pretty good.
I love I I'm telling you, listento Joni Mitchell.
You know, she did pay a paradiseput up a parking lot.
You know she did. Some of the ones you would know.
Put up a parking lot, you know no.
You know that song? I don't how does it go.
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Baby paradise put up your pocket.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Somebody remade it.
I forgot who it was and made it a oh it was a Counting Crows.
Yeah, Counting Crows. I know the Counting Crows
version. Yeah, OK.
The next one, have you ever heard of?
Yes. No, no, I have not.
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I shouldn't have told you on this.
Progressive I know, I love. That's my favorite feature.
This is like they were from the 70s, early 70s progressive rock.
This guy, I don't even know whathis name is.
He has such a unique sound that when you hear it, you go, oh,
that was yes, yes, yeah. So this is called Your Move from
1971. All right, your move on the
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model curriculum by and called yes, let's take a listen.
Wow, that, you know, the first time I listened to that, I got
some major sticks vibes from it.Yeah.
(35:05):
Like it's it's very like chorus,I guess I don't know if that's
the right word. Chorusy where it sounds like a
chorus of people like harmonizing.
Yeah. And it that's.
What groups do sometimes? It still gave me sticks vibes.
Though they were pre sticks but yeah I know what you're talking
about. That's a yes sound.
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That's what they sounded like. Well, yes.
But the song, the song is way more than that.
And it gets. It builds.
And it builds, and it builds. Doesn't but it I feel like it
builds, but it doesn't ever build to anything.
That was my other thought the first time I had it.
It's like it continues, you're waiting for that, the beat drop
and it just, it doesn't come. Turn it back up.
(35:47):
There's an organ. How often do you hear organ and
you're listening? Well, this is about the third
song today. That's an organ.
Is that a no? That's an organ.
Organ. Like that's a cathedral organ.
Yeah. All right, all right.
Give me your grade. I'll give it AB plus.
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OK, good. Now the next one is 19, 93, so
22 years later, Robert Downey Junior.
So crazy that he put out an album and it's mediocre.
But this song I love. He's got a good voice and the
guy from Yes sings with him, so that's why it's got a very
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similar sound when the chorus. Well, when I the first time I,
when I listened to it on the podcast I have on my Apple
Music, it fades from one song tothe next.
So I hadn't even realized that the second version is certain.
I'm like, wow, this is a really long song.
And yeah, he does have a good voice, though.
Rap Downing, Junior Iron Man. And this is when he was still
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kind of in. He was trying to reinvent
himself. You know, he had some personal
issues and he was trying to reinvent himself.
And this is this is before Iron Man came out.
Oh, yeah, no, I know. Let's take a listen though.
Iron Man. Robert Downey Junior, you are.
Move on the mile curriculum. Take a straight a stronger
(37:15):
course to the corner. That has some higher energy than
the first one. I think I like the first one
better though. This the yes, Styx, we'll call
it the Styx version. That's what I'm going to call
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it. I just, I just think it's
surprising. That about Robert Downey
Channel. I think it is too.
I this one has a little bit building and then it actually
builds. I feel like it builds to
something as opposed to the first one that kind of just
continuously builds and builds and never really gets there.
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Yeah, well, it does sound like yes.
So with the singer there, he also did.
There was a Christian group named for him that he came and
sang with them. A pretty popular song.
So he must like to sing on otherpeople's stuff I guess.
OK, solid beef. OK, one more common people is
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the name of the song. Well, 22 songs more.
One more song, 2 versions and common people.
The first one was alt alternative rock from the 80s by
a group called Pulp and they sang a really great song called
(38:40):
Babies, which is one of my favorite songs from that genre.
But this was called Common People.
It did fairly well in England #2didn't do anything over here in
America. I don't know how I feel about
this. Common people.
No, I just I like my orange juice without pulp, so I I.
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Hit the button. Hit the button no the want want
want button. That has a familiar vibe to me.
(39:24):
I don't think I've ever heard a Pulp song, but it's I don't know
what song it sounds like. I was trying to think of it
while I was listening. Or like we do, did we do babies
already on the Brit pop one babies babies by Paul we could
have. That's a good question.
But yeah, this one's a little. It doesn't really do much.
(39:46):
It just kind of. So I as an original, I don't, I
didn't know it because it didn't, it was #2 in on the UK
charts, but it didn't do much inAmerica, so I didn't really know
about it. Yeah, we did not do babies.
Now one. Of these days, I want to do the
baby song. It's amazing.
OK, I remember we talked about them, but I don't think we did
it. But this next one is William
(40:07):
Shatner. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
I didn't give a grave yet. You're jumping ahead of yourself
here. Let me get back to the right
sheet. You.
Got a plus on there. No, we'll go B plus though, OK,
It's a little faster. Pace, it gets upbeat, it gets
more upbeat as you go and he builds and everything so he.
(40:27):
Is building to something now. That's what I like to see.
The next one, though, is WilliamShatner.
Which the actors think, Yeah, you think what?
The world, obviously he's talking, but when the course
comes in is Joe Jackson. Joe Jackson.
He was like popular in the 80s. Like Shoeless Joe Jackson.
Like the baseball? Player it's the same 1.
(40:49):
Logan, it's the exact same person.
He started singing. No Joe Jackson. 1st if you do
not give me the attitude, because the other person on this
album is William Shatner the actor.
That's true. So you can see how I made that
enormous jump. From baseball, Shoeless Joe
Jackson was like from the 30s, wasn't it?
(41:09):
I mean he would be 100 and something.
I mean, that's your childhood, so I wouldn't.
Yeah. Oh, that was the wrong button.
Anyway, this is William Shatner.Let's see what you say.
Thank you. Stop it.
Thank you. Stick with this, stick with this
people, until you get to the chorus, because it makes it.
(41:31):
All right. William Shatner on the final
curriculum. She came from Greece.
She had a thirst for knowledge. She studied sculpture at Saint
Martin's College. That's where I caught her eye.
That is. Oh, that is not at all what I
thought he'd sound like. William Shatner?
(41:54):
Yeah. Tubeless Joe Jackson?
No, that sounds just like if youever watched Star Trek that he
would. So that's not him singing
though. No, that's Joe Jackson.
Oh, you can see that's I literally just said wow, he
sounds not like I thought he would when he sings, but William
Shatner's just. Talking that he just does
(42:14):
talking now there's a fire going.
There's all kind of stuff going on.
Now you got to listen to the whole song.
It's amazing. I just love that song.
It is quality. I think I got to go a minus.
Yeah. That's how old was this song.
When did the song come out? This.
Is 95, Yeah, no, this 2004 OK, 95 was the original.
(42:38):
I was going to say this. This feels later.
This feels more modern than the first one.
Yeah. So I like it better.
But Joe Jack, Joe Jackson makes it.
Oh yeah. You get so into it.
What other what other groups is he in?
He was Joe Jackson. He did.
Thank you. Stepping out.
Stepping out into. Yeah, because I he sounds
(43:01):
familiar. OK.
Anyway, go listen to that album.That song is amazing.
That is. Quality and William Shatner
would appreciate it. He would.
And you can tell your friends I just listened to a William
Shatner song on Spotify or AppleMusic.
I'm doing the Spock thing with my hand.
I can do it with this hand. Look boom.
(43:21):
Also with this hand. Everybody could do that.
Not everybody can do that. Really, Really.
Overall, I think for cover songs, it's not going to be the
highest grade that I've ever given out, that's for sure, I
think. It's very eclectic, so it'd be
hard. Eclectic.
Do you understand what eclectic means when you have bluegrass,
(43:44):
70s folk, 60s, Brit pop? It's it's very eclectic.
Yeah, we're going to go solid B.OK.
That's the B that's respectable.Logan, I give you.
I will give you AB plus for first of all listening to the
playlist ahead of time which I don't know if you did 100% but I
I. Told you I didn't listen to the
last two songs I know because you said we weren't doing that.
(44:08):
No, I said don't You don't have to listen to the Pulp version
all the way through because so see that you would have given
that A+ if you had listened to the whole thing.
But I I give you AB plus for effort.
Thank you, thank you. It's.
Amazing what happens, the good things happen when you put forth
effort. OK.
I appreciate that. But remember, we do have a
(44:30):
Facebook Instagram accounts, so you please follow us on that and
we would love to hear feedback on those channels, especially if
they're pro gym and kind of con Logan.
Also listen to the playlist and the the podcast drops every
Thursday. Yes, and you can find the
(44:51):
playlist in the bio, in the linkin the bio and the Instagram
page. It's Vinyl curriculum.carrd.co.
That is the website you can go to find all the playlists for
all the episodes that we've doneso far, links to the Spotify
channel and the Apple Podcast channel.
We're also on pretty much everywhere.
(45:11):
You get your podcast, Apple Podcast, Spotify, iHeartRadio,
everywhere there's podcast. That's where we're at.
So we appreciate you listening so much.
I think I do more than Jim does,just a little bit.
No, no, no. But please follow us on those.
Whatever media player you're listening to the podcast, follow
(45:32):
us so you get notifications whenthey drop.
And on the Instagram, you can see Jim's concert that he went
to with him and. Beach Bunny.
Beach Bunny. Sure, beach Bunny.
All right. Well, this was a good one.
Great playlist again Jim and we will catch you all on the next
one. Bye.
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