October 9, 2025 • 50 mins
This week on The Vinyl Curriculum, Logan and Jim spin back to the early 1990s — a transformative era when alternative rock broke through the mainstream and redefined the sound of a generation. From the gritty Seattle grunge scene to jangly college radio hits and boundary-pushing indie acts, we trace how bands like Nirvana, Pearl Jam, R.E.M., and The Smashing Pumpkins shaped music history and influenced countless artists that followed.
We’ll unpack the cultural movements, sonic experimentation, and rebellious energy that fueled this alt-rock explosion — plus share personal stories and deep-cut recommendations you won’t want to miss.
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Every record tells a story. Independent labels.
I think a lot of interesting songs came out of that.
And every generation has a soundtrack.
The only hip you have in your body is made of titanium.
This is the final curriculum with Logan.
Apparently I don't know very much about anything.
Somebody calls her Tay Tay. Welcome back to another episode
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of The Vinyl Curriculum. Logan and Jim here recording it
live in the podcast studio. Jim, how you doing?
Logan, I am great. My question is how are you
doing? I'm doing fantastic.
Cause yesterday was your birthday.
It was. I sang myself happy birthday.
I even lit myself a candle. It was great.
It was wonderful. Well, happy belated birthday to
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you. Thank you it.
Was a big weekend. It was my anniversary weekend.
Yes, and you saw one of the Broadway musicals of which we
listened to a song from last week on episode #15 of the Vinyl
Curriculum. So if you haven't heard that
episode, it is available now on Apple Music and Spotify.
This week though, we've got a different topic, as we do every
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week. And the topic for this week is.
This is 1990s alternative rock, early 1990s though, and I
purposely did not do any slow songs.
Well, that's the bad. Well, no, they're not even some
bold songs and there's no one where it's just one person.
They're all. Groups.
I had to bring it. You got listen, some of them are
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pretty hardcore, so I had to bring them.
Hardcore. A little bit.
The last one might be considered.
The might be hardcore, but anyway, this is an eclectic
group of alternative rocks here.You go with.
Some of it's kind of like college rock, some of his grungy
rock, some of his kind of experimental rock.
What is what is it an alternate from just regular rock?
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I never, I've never understood what alternative.
I think, yeah. So I think with like this would
not be Guns and Roses. Right, right.
It's a little. It's just different, if not
mainstream as much. So a lot of times they will not
chart like a traditional rock band like, you know, Queen or
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Styx or something like that. So now they had their own modern
rock charts that they go to college radio sometimes, you
know, things that are picked up on college radio.
If you were listening to MTV at the time, there was a show
called 120 Minutes that came on like at midnight in our area
throughout the week and they would play these types of songs.
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OK, well I'm looking forward to it.
I listened to the playlist throughout the course of the
weekend. It was a very interesting
birthday activity. As we drove to our birthday
lunch yesterday, so was. Mom and Dad in the car with us.
They were not, no, it was just, yeah, just Nicole and I, and we
met them there at PF Chang's. Did she make negative comments
that made it might have influenced?
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You not no, no, no, not this time she did last she that I
didn't listen to the Broadway one with her did I was that the
one that I listened to No it was2 weeks ago whatever that show I
can't even remember now because we've.
Covers. 15 was it covers. See, this is what happens.
You start getting old. Well, your memory starts going
and it's already started. Yeah, no, I feel I woke up.
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My knees cracked this morning. Never done that before.
When you get to age 27 I guess. I guess if any of our listeners
can crochet, he could use a little shawl because he's
sitting here in the studio with a little coat on because he's
cold and, you know, his blood's thinned and with all this old
age so. It is, and I do know how to
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knit, so maybe I'll knit myself.A little.
I think I should do that. I will first song though Jane's
Addiction called Jane's Addiction.
Yeah the group's Jane's Addiction, right?
Have you heard of them? I have just looking at their the
song list though and I I've heard of Jane's addiction.
I think my mom was a big Jane's Addiction fan, but I didn't
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recognize any of the other songsfrom this group.
Well, you don't know their names, but I bet if you've heard
some of the songs, they, you know, they, they've been around
in like last year, they there was news they got in a fight.
Like the Perry, what was his name?
Perry Farrell. Dave Navarro.
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You might have heard of him before.
He's the guitarist. There's a clip of them.
They're in this reunion tour andall of a sudden they're punches,
like Perry's throwing punches inthe middle of the thing.
Will they? They stopped it and they
cancelled it broke up. Then everybody, Dave and the
other two guys sued him because they're like, we lost all this
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money because you are being erratic or whatever, so.
I don't I. Don't know if it's been
announced how it turned out, butI think they were suing for like
10 million or something so they're not together anymore as
of. Last year, well, that's
unfortunate. And we are going to do just like
normal. We're going chronological.
This is 1990. Right, OK.
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So I was a little bit younger than you at the time, 25, so.
This is a song called then caught stealing I never want to
get. Caught when you're stealing
things? No.
You don't. Let's take a listen.
Jane's addiction here on the final curriculum.
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All right, Well, hopefully we'renot stealing things.
No, that's not how we roll here in the vinyl curriculum.
We don't steal. Well, he was stealing.
His girlfriend was stealing. This is upbeat though A.
Lot of fun. The video was funny.
And I think that what made it pretty popular, it was the
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video. So many of these, you know, with
MTV, it was, it was a huge part of it.
With you. Well, right.
And this was when an MTV become like a big thing when that was
in the 90s. Early like 81820, but by this
time, people know what they're doing they're spending a lot of
money on the videos. Yeah, and we didn't hear it
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here. We didn't hear it here but when
you listen to the playlist, it starts off with dog barking dog.
And if you have it turned up your dog might start barking
when he hears it because it sounds like dog barking.
All right, we, we don't have to give examples.
They can do that themselves, but.
I think we'll start off sell AB plus for Jans addiction then
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caught stealing. I like it.
Yeah, I'd add it to a playlist. It's different.
It is. It stops, it picks up.
It's a. Lot of fun.
Dog barking is a fun addition atthe bread at the beginning
there. Yeah, so.
Yeah. So just so you know, I had
either all these albums or I hadthem on some sort of a
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compilation. I see.
I did not have this album, whichwas called Ritual.
Maybe I did Habil. I don't know how you just have
that. Who do you know Spanish?
No. Ritual de lo habatual habitual.
Habitual maybe? Yeah, anyway, we're number one
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on the modern modern rock tracks.
It's their biggest hit. All right, so if you say you
haven't heard, you know, might not I.
Probably have heard that song before.
I know. I mean, I've heard Jane's
Addiction that when I listened to it, didn't strike me as
something that I'd heard before.But, you know, I've been living
a long life now, 27, ripe, the ripe old age of 27.
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So yeah, have been exposed to a lot of different kinds of music.
I don't think you're going to hear this next one.
I don't think it's called cool thing with AKK it's a different.
That's kind of cool. Not cool in the gang with AK.
That cool. Yeah, OK. 1980 This is the Sonic
Youth, though, and this is definitely more like
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experimental rock. They're different.
OK, Sonic Youth, I don't know, that's the group that I've never
heard of, but let's take a listen.
Listen, all right on vile curriculum here is cool thing
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that's a little different. I told you it's going to be
eclectic, Logan. Sonic Youth, you're in the vinyl
curriculum. That was cool thing.
Yeah, we didn't play the part, but she is talking and a guy
comes in, he's like, yeah, righton.
And tell it like it is and stuff.
And it's this because like, it'slike, is she being racist?
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What is going on here? And so I was reading into it.
She did an interview. We'll try that again.
That's right. She did an interview with LL
Cool J as a part of Spin magazine.
And she just was not impressed with him.
He was kind of, and she was kindof like, he wasn't like she was
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trying to talk to him about the problem of having, you know,
women not having great roles in the music industry and he was
not interested in hearing it. So she kind of is.
It's her way of kind of addressing that through a song.
I don't know. It's different.
That was on the 120 Minutes album that they put out.
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That's how I got to know that one.
OK, not my just favorite thing I've ever heard.
Not bad. So I think a fair grade would be
AB minus, AB minus after if I'm caught stealing had it.
I don't know. I just that wasn't my jam.
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I just that's the only way I could describe that song.
They're. Going to be different.
So yeah, I mean that. And that's more experimental.
They're like, they're just out there.
I would not listen. I probably would never listen to
a Sonic Youth album. Yeah, on my own, like, because
it's just too much. Album, it's almost too much.
It's too much punk for me, almost kind of it's like, and I
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think it's really hard. I had this CD, it was ACD of,
you know, compilation album and you just you hear it enough to
where you start liking it is probably what happened for me.
But yeah, I like, I like it. Fair enough.
The next one has like a little local flair for me.
Blind Melon. That's a great name.
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This was 20/19/92, number one onthe modern rock tracks, but two
of the guys were from West Point, Ms., which is right down
the road where I'm from and now.West Point as in the military
school, That's the different West.
Point, which is right, that's close to Mississippi State,
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close to Aberdeen and Tupelo where I lived.
And this is this is a softer sound to it.
So maybe this is what you're referring to when I said some of
them are, but it's still upbeatish and I love this whole
album was great. It's called Blind Melon and then
they might have released the second one and then the guy ODD
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he was not the one from he was from Indiana, I think I read.
But it's kind of sad because they knew he had an issue.
So when they were touring, they brought along a counselor to,
like, help him, and he fired him, and then they found him.
OD so Oh my. Sad ending, but they kind of
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broke up and I think they're according to Wikipedia they're
still together, but I have not heard anything from Blind Melon.
And of course, the lead singer would be gone.
Yeah. And then you said this was from
92. Two, it's called no rain.
I think you might have known. This it was 30 years ago.
Over those 33 years ago. Wow.
All right. I think you might know this.
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Let's see. Yeah, all right, let's take a
listen to Blind Melon on the vinyl curriculum.
I like watching the bottles gathering and I start to
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complain. I am familiar with this song.
This is one that I have heard inmy eclectic music listening
journey. That would be a false statement
right there. And you do not have eclectic
music, At least you're not used to not.
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You're getting better. We're getting better thanks to
this show. No Rain by Blind Melon and you
just pointed out to me the albumcover which appears to have a
little girl dancing, right? It looks like it is a dance
outfit and they're doing like the little pose, you know how
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well you don't have children, but when you're, if you have a
daughter and she takes dance lessons, you have to get all
these expensive little outfits, you know, and they come out for
like 2 minutes and then they go off and just like, OK, that was
what we, that's what we just paid for.
But yeah, that's kind of, and I think I read that that's what it
was, somebody's sister or, you know, they didn't stage it and
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then they just used it. No.
All right. Well, no rain by Blind Melon.
We'll go solid B, OK, Solid BA. Little slower, but still.
I mean, it's upbeat, but it's not.
It's the strumming, you know, it's kind of, it's simple,
right? It's kind of just strumming away
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on the guitar, maybe a little bit of drums in the background,
but it's kind of just, yeah, I could.
You could see, I could see somebody sitting on a stool,
jamming away on their stool. Are they on the patio or they
close to the fire? They're in an open garage.
They're in an open garage. Garage open on a summer night,
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drinking a nice cold glass of water.
I would be interested to know how many of these songs your
parents know. Probably a lot of these.
I told you my mom was a big Jane's Addiction fan, so I'm
sure she's familiar with that one.
I'm sure she's heard no rain. I mean, this was like my mom, I
think I want to say graduated College in when she was what, 29
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when she had me. So 9 like early 90s like you
know. So that's what I'm saying.
She's probably she's right behind me.
Yeah, this is around this time. I think especially if this is
the type of music she listened to, if she listened to Jane's
addiction, she's going to know these, Yeah.
Interesting SO. Yeah.
OK. Well, so far we're doing all
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right. Yeah, the next 1 is really.
Disappointing you? Too bad.
You always disappoint me. By the way, you're still yelling
on that intro. Are we ever going to change that
where you're not yelling at the top of your lungs?
What do you mean yelling? You're like Angel.
It goes off Angel. Anyway.
That was the whole, that was thewhole stick with that.
Maybe seen Season 2, maybe we'llredo.
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It it's just yeah, we should we?Should.
Yeah, we really. Should we?
Should just. It'll be whispering.
It'll be welcome. Speaking of whispering
curriculum, stop whispering because that's the name of the
next song. Oh, did you know that that was
the next tie in? I am a professional gym.
You're supposed to. You're supposed to just go
along. With I can't.
I was in shock. Now this is Radiohead and
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Radiohead is still around. You know them, right?
Yep. OK, this, I love this out this.
I have the whole album and it was Pablo Honey and it was their
debut album and there was this has had creep on it.
You know I'm a creep, but this is the one I like the most.
You are a creep. Stop it Pablo Honey.
Another interesting album art there with what appears to be
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like a flower with like a baby. Like the flower or something?
Kind of artsy. Yeah, very artsy.
And then there's like cookie sprinkles around the the lot
going on here, this album cover.But that generally means that
the song should be pretty good on that album.
If they put that much effort into the album cover, maybe
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we'll find out. Does that track that
explanation? I don't think so, because
there's some pretty, you know, basic covers that are still
pretty good. All right, well, stop
whispering. Yeah, start yelling.
This is Radiohead on the vinyl curriculum.
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Radiohead on the vinyl curriculum.
Also different. That has a more truer
alternative sound to me. I don't know why, but like I
don't know if it's like just theway the guitar sounds and like,
but that kind of sound. I I guess it also reminds me of
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like some early 2000s. I don't know.
Punk is the right word, but like, why can't I think of it?
The name of the band? I don't know.
It'll come to me, but that's that to me has the more like not
you hear how like that. There's like plucking in the
background or like the way the distortion on the guitar sounds.
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To me hear it, it's sounds more like alternative music.
It does have alternative music, but there's, like I said,
there's grungy alternative. There's.
Right, Poppy, like pop, there's experimental there.
You know, there's a little, there's alternative just means
not necessarily mainstream. However, Radiohead turned into
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mainstream, right? Lenny Kravitz is another one
we're doing turned into mainstream, right?
Yeah. So like when we were listening
the other day to that Zoe Smith.No.
No. Willow Smith and.
Whatever. Listening to that album, that
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was alternative, that song getting.
But when you'll hear that album,it's it's not pop.
You don't and you don't, you don't hear it on the radio
because it's, it's an alternative thing.
You know, it might. I don't know if it's sole
alternative. I don't know if it's rap
alternative but it was not mainstream.
Yeah, it's like Q1O1. Yeah.
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Q1O1. EI told you I used to love Q1 O1
when I was in Mississippi and mybrother-in-law would record just
hours and hours of Q1 O1 and send it to me and I would play
it at work and my buddy Lee and Kurt and we would just listen to
that over and over. And I knew all the commercials
and all that, but it would be like Dismissed and Susie and the
Banshees and and then when I finally moved up this area and
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could get QO one O 1, they had already Nirvana had come
through. And ruined it came really,
really hard. It's so hard.
I just can't listen to QO one much because it's so hard for
me. Was Man Calbec was on the
station? But back then or no?
When I lived in, when I worked in the city, he was, yeah.
He's an interesting dude. Yeah, I didn't listen to.
It he's an interesting guy, but this one though, this is Stop
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Whispering by Radiohead. He also says stop whispering,
stop shouting and he's specifically talking to you
about our intro. I think we'll go another solid B
there. OK, I like it, I really do.
But it's just it's not my favorite thing.
So that that sense is AB category song.
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It also, this is the way I am too, when I'm even if you look
at like an album like Smashing Pumpkins or you look at an album
Kiss, even though most of them might be upbeat, they always
throw slow songs in there or slow it down because you need, I
don't know, you need that contrast.
You need a break. Yeah.
And I'm doing that kind of with the playlist.
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I'm trying to at least because it can't all be, you know,
harder stuff. At least I don't enjoy.
If it is, I like to. I like a break.
Yeah, but I that's see, that's why I probably don't like
listening to the whole album, you know, and we, I mean, we've,
this is the conversation we've had many a times.
But you know, that's why I make,I make a lot of my own playlist,
so I can just have the, you know, that constant energy that
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whole time and not have to suffer through the terrible
songs from the album. But that's just it.
If you listen to them through a couple of times, they're
probably not. Some of them are, I mean, some
of them are just terrible. Like I listened when we were
doing 1. I can't remember what it was.
And I as I was listening to it on Spotify, I realized I didn't
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know any of those songs on the second side of when I had the
album because I, it was not good.
I never played that side. I always so, and it was so
disappointing. You know, you albums were
expensive and you would buy something because you couldn't
hear it ahead of time. And then you're like, I just
wasted $8 or whatever it was. I don't remember what it was. $8
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huh? That's like what the albums used
to be. Now they're like 35.
Dollars, It's ridiculous. 1012, I remember.
Well, obviously it's gone up as time goes on.
That's why I'd go to the bargainbin sometime.
Yeah, go to the get. The used go to Half Price Books,
they've got a great selection ofused vinyl.
Well, you know, I'm not interested in that anymore.
I was in the old days. Yeah.
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Now the next one is one of my favorite band names, Ned's
Atomic Dustbin. Don't know where it came from.
The album was Godfather, and I like it upbeat.
You know why I like them so much?
Because it's it's pretty aggressive rock, but the vocals
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are soft and you can hear them. Yeah, and this also some really
top tier Elam art looking at thethe cover of this album, Bite,
bite, bite, bite, bite, bite, bite, bite, bite, all the way
around in a circle. I don't.
That's not the one I remember. Well, maybe it maybe this was
like just from. That could have been like a.
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Compilation. This is what I remember.
This is from a byte. Yeah, this is byte it says.
No, it was from Godfather. Oh well.
I wonder if they re released it.That's what I remember.
OK. I'm glad everybody on the radio
can hear exactly what we're looking at on our dadgum phone.
Yeah, so that was well deserved.What is this called Gray?
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Gray green, cell green. And you know after how many this
came out in 92. So after 30 something years I
finally looked at what is he talking about?
Gray cell? Green.
Well, let's listen first. You can guess.
All right, let's take a listen. That's atomic dustbin.
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Yeah. It's hard for me to tell what
exactly they're singing about. I mean, my first thought was
something to do with the brain grace cell, right?
Like a brain. Ding, Ding, Ding.
Brain matters. What's the applause button?
This said no no. There we go.
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That's the Gray stuff. Crazy.
Hold on. Hold on.
No. Oh my.
Goodness. Thank you.
Thank you studio audience. I've I feel like I need to go
outside and take a break. Yes, grayscale is has to do with
the brain. And then green was he wanted us
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to think environmentally. Oh, like it was think
environmentally conscious consciously.
I see, I never knew that. I was just saying grayscale
green. Or you can grayscale Gray over
and over and over again. That's not what I would have
gotten out of that. No, just seeing that title, I
mean, Gray cell, that was when even when the first time I
played it, I was like, that probably is something to do with
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the brain. But as we've established before,
I have trouble understanding thewords.
So I, you know, caught about half of them, but that's OK.
And you're probably half listening as you were driving to
your birthday celebration. I was very focused in the car
while I'm driving. Thank you.
I'll all hands 10 and two on thesteering wheel.
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You're not very drive so you canreally focus.
No, no, I'm sure. Well, if she was driving, if she
was driving, I'd be even less focused on the music because I'd
have to be more focused. On you just said that live well,
OK, Luckily she doesn't listen. No, she does not Gray sell green
by Nan's atomic dustbin. I think we got to go B plus for
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that. It was a little bit, it was, it
was a little harder than my normal palate is used to, but.
Did you eat before you did this?Yes, I ate.
I don't think you did. I did.
I did. I'm easily.
You ate breakfast of all. I had to deal with you making
fun of my sweater because it's so cold in here now, and now I
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have to deal with you talking about me, my eating habits.
I think that should have been anA minus at least that's a good
one. That old album I think is good.
Yeah, well, you're a little biased, so I.
Am of course I'm biased. That's OK.
Next one though, a song called Cannonball by the Breeders.
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Not to be confused with the Bleachers.
I don't think they're the bleachers.
I think they're just bleachers. This is the Breeders.
They are bleachers. the Breedersare.
It was a lady named Tanya and then two twins, Kim and Kelly
Deal, identical twins. Interesting.
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Yeah, and this was at 93. And I remember clearly when I
was in Mississippi, I'd listen to this album at work.
And I had a guy, his name was Lee Outlaw, did not like, like
he was heavy, heavy, heavy. And this was one of the few CDs
that I could play that he would like because they were
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different. Anyway, they broke up.
But this was #2 on the Billboard, Modern Rock, and #44
on just the regular billboards. So it did kind of crossover a
little. Bit this is not a group that
I've ever heard of the Breeders.They kind of broke up fairly
soon. Soon after this, yeah.
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I think they had a few and then I think one of them had drug
problems and then they're back. If you, it's funny, you look at
these, it's been so long. You look at Wikipedia, they were
together. They're back together.
You like, it'll show you like timeline chronology and or this
is a new person. And yeah, but the Tanya
Donnelly, she was in a group called Throwing Muses, and they
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have a really good song called Not Not Too Soon.
Well, they all did other things.Kim Deal ended was with the
Pixies. You've ever heard of them?
No. OK, well there's another.
Group. That's another.
Another group for another time, but this is called Cannonball.
All right, Cannonball, oh, must take a listen.
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That is Cannonball on the vinyl curriculum by the Breeders.
Yes. You were right, that does change
tempo and beat quite frequently.It's kind of all over the map a
little bit. This one.
I mean, this has kind of that classic 90s sound though.
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I guess I'm getting reminded of Nirvana.
I don't know why I don't. Maybe it's just.
The sound, well, this is the same time as Nirvana, so I'm
sure, you know, people are, you know, say you'll hear other
people, you get inspired by other people.
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So this was, yeah. Yeah, it is giving me Nirvana
vibes, but that's not necessarily a bad thing because
I like Nirvana. This though?
Cannonball by the Breeders. I think we'll go solid B Solid
B. It will be hard pressed to find
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an A. You know why?
Because you're being a little, that's what you're being.
That's not nice, Jim. That's not nice at all, OK.
I don't think you had your lunchand I think now that you're 27
you're starting to get crotchety.
Gosh, here we go again with thisnonsense.
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No, I think Salad Bee is a fair grade.
OK, next one Help Me Marry by Liz Fair.
Do you remember Liz Fair? We I do remember Liz Fair.
What? Do you know about Liz Fair?
What do I know about her? I don't.
I'd have to pull up my notes about the last time.
I know she's been on the show before.
She's from Chicago and you didn't care.
No, you. Did not care that she was from
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Chicago. No, I don't understand what that
has to do with me liking the music or not, but.
It's the local lore. We and you know how we have
proven time and time again that lore and history matter.
So thank you for playing. But yes, it does matter.
She is from Chicago. This was 93 exit to Guyville,
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which was kind of like, I think she had a like AEP, but they
don't really talk that that was her first album.
This was her in theory debut album.
And when you look at from 1993, all like Rolling Stone magazine,
Spin magazine, when they list their top albums of the year,
she's always way up there with this album.
OK, very different. Yeah, it is very different.
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Let's take a listen and we'll talk about it.
And another impartial grade coming up right after this in
the vinyl curriculum, please. I've lost my home, dear thieves,
and watch how fast. They.
Were to the flame. Local Chicago connection Liz
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Fair on the vinyl curriculum. Interesting.
Interesting as always. I'm just, I think I'm fixing
really good stuff. Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Excuse me, just for the record, I didn't say all those words.
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No, yeah, I, I don't know. I'm kind of indifferent about
this one as well. I I'm struggling to this alt
rock and you know, to, to make aconnection, like a meaningful
connection. And as we've established, that's
a big deal for me. So like, I'm kind of indifferent
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about a lot of these songs. So my suggestion would be Mr.
Kepp, by the way, that's his last.
Name I don't like. I don't like your suggestion.
My suggestion would be when you listen to the soundtrack and the
playlist, you might could do it more than once and you can just
set aside, all right, I'm going to listen to two songs.
I'm really going to listen to them, and then I'll go listen to
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my Satanic music or Taylor Swiftor whatever.
You listen to your thing. The new life of a showgirl out
now Taylor Swift. Yeah, I haven't heard that yet.
Look out. Is Bona Vera on there?
If so, I'll listen to it otherwise.
But you know, it does take time.I understand that.
These are the albums that I've been listening to for decades.
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I get it and you're just now being exposed to it, but I don't
know why you always feel like you have to put yourself in a
setting. It doesn't make any sense to me.
I don't know if anybody who's ever told.
Me. No, no, no.
No, I don't know where I'm wouldbe see myself listening to this.
Well, I'll tell you where you'relistening to it wherever you're
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listening to it. If you're in the car, you're
listening to it. If you're.
That's not even, that's not whatI'm referring to in this
specific instance. I know, I know what you're
saying, but I'm just saying likethis, I don't know.
I can't that not even just I canvisualize listening to it.
That's not the issue here. I just can't.
Like, I don't know, it doesn't strike me.
It doesn't strike an emotional chord in this.
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What? Beautiful body.
What has ever struck an emotional chord in your body?
Because I have yet, yeah, to seeanything.
OK, hit me. What is it?
Help me, marry and help me. Help me marry.
I think we'll just go solid B. Oh, that's generous, because I
thought you were. Going to no, I like I said it,
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it I don't dislike it. Yeah, I and I'm I'm struggling
to come up with how I feel aboutit.
And I know being an audio only medium words are are golden
goose on the show, but I'm struggling to to know how I feel
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about it at least like like songs like that.
So I think we just move on because this next one at least
you know Spaceman by 4 Non Blondes.
Are they redheads? They are.
They all had dark hair. Yes.
OK. And.
Very alternative looking I wouldsay.
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I think they were goth before goth was the thing.
OK, this was a song that I thought sounded very familiar,
and it happened to be another song on the album.
Album called Bigger, Better, Faster and More Exclamation
Point. Yes, that song called What's Up
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is what I was thinking this songwas.
But this is not What's Up. This is Spaceman.
Which is better to me because I'm sick of what's up everybody
and their mother. Plays that is a little
overplayed. And I don't like to do that.
So let's listen to Spaceman by 4Non Blondes by one blonde and 1
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Gray haired individual. What do we call you?
I don't know why are we? What we're It's not by us,
though. Why?
Well, I was trying to make a connection.
That was a terrible failing. Let's take a listen.
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Space Man and I said. Hey, hey, hey.
Yeah, yeah, I said, hey, are yousaying that they.
What's going on? They sound too similar.
No well they do sound similar. I don't think they sound too
similar, but it also reminds me that song that what's up song
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reminds me of the Clifford the Big Red Dog theme song.
Not sure how you are familiar with that, but I.
Know who Clifford is but I neverwatched his show.
Yeah, Spaceman by 4 Non Blondes I I like that group.
I like the sound that they have.I think we'll go B plus for them
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for four non blondes by a blondeand.
You're a dirty blonde if anything.
Well actually I also have the red hair jeans so like my the
facial hair has a tinge of red in it, but strawberry blondes.
That was more detailed than anybody wanted.
Well I just think that's an interesting genetic quirk.
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But spaceman by 4 Non Blondes? I like the that group and I
recognize it almost immediately even from that first line that
it was for non Blondes just because I don't know if all the
songs sound like that. I guess I've only heard.
She's the one singer, so that's that's the problem.
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She's got a unique voice, so when she sings, she's going to
sound like her. And not to throw it back to the
white void again, but this sound, this song sounds like it
was recorded in the white void. I don't know if it's just the
reverb on her voice but it sounds like a very large space
and I picture the white void. Not important.
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B + 4 spaceman by 4 Non Blondes.I wonder why you say you have a
hard time hearing lyrics but youalways talk about the production
of it. The sound, yeah, I can.
I'm like it. I can hear the sound and.
You're focusing on the wrong things, Logan.
I don't know what it is. It's not that I can hear it.
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I can hear the noise, but I can't understand the lyrics.
But I can. I can hear the sound like I can
hear how the words sound, but I can't always pick out what
they're saying. Does that make sense?
Yeah, and sometimes they're theydon't enunciate at all.
Yeah. So, you know, like I have no
idea what they're saying. I'm listening.
I'm trying to focus and you can't.
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I can understand typically what she and she says.
Fawah better way fall wah instead of 4A.
She says fall wah. Yeah, I see.
I wouldn't, I wouldn't gather that I'd have to listen.
I'd have to very intently listenmultiple times which.
You should be doing is what I'm trying to do.
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That's what we're talking about.There's only 10 songs on this
playlist and new rule Nicole can't be in the car because she
does not like this type of music.
No, she does. Not she is going to influence
you and make roll her eyes and all that kind of.
Stuff, Yeah. If you haven't heard this next
one, I'm going to eat my shoe because this is Lenny Kravitz.
Are you going to go my way? But another great album.
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Yeah, Lenny Kravitz. He's not the clarinet guy.
Who's the clarinet guy? Kenny G Yeah, no, OK.
They're very similar in zero ways.
So this is 93. I thought you're going to.
I thought you're going to agree with me for once, but I get
Lenny Kravitz and Kenny G. They both had curly hair, if
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that does anything. Because Kenny G had curly hair.
Well, I don't know, let's just listen and we'll analyze after
that during the vinyl curriculum.
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What do you know? I don't know.
I like that song. I've heard it before.
Yeah, recognized it. I was trying to pick up where
I've heard it before and it's it's got to be like ATV show or
something. I couldn't.
I can like picture it but it. On the radio, because it's
unimportant, very number one. And he, he became very, he
(40:46):
crossed over. Into the mainstream.
Yeah, he became very successful.Yeah, I think when I worked at
the radio station we used to play this song a lot because we
go do like live events and stuffwhere we could set up speakers
and play music. So that's probably where I'm
familiar with this one for. But I do like it.
Other than that, it's nice kind of rock'n'roll and has a good
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beat to it. I think we're going to go with
an A. I think that was a pity grade,
No? I'm looking at all these BS B -,
B. Plus no no this is not the
Beehive show. OK, we we have other things than
BS in here. Now you've seen Lenny Kravitz in
a movie. Do you know that?
I have. You have.
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He was in Hunger Games. He was in the original Hunger
Games. Really.
He was sentra. I don't know did.
Sentra did her outfit. Yes, yes, OK.
I think that was his name Sentra.
Yeah, yeah, that was Lenny Kravitz.
Yeah. He also he also married Lisa
Bonet, who was way back when when was the Cosby Show.
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She was the teenage girl and they married and she was also in
a different world, was a spin off and then they were married.
Oh, but yeah, I don't know. I don't know much about Manny
Kravitz. As I said, I confused him quite
frequently with Kenny G. But no.
And his mother? You'll never know this.
Have you ever? Do you remember The Jeffersons?
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No, with I know the Jetsons likethe cartoon.
This is about as far back The Jeffersons were.
It was a spin off of all in the family.
They were the African American couple who Archie Bunker
neighbors who always had an issue.
Will they end up moving? And they had their own show.
And in that show they had white neighbors.
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Well, it was a mixed. It was a mixed couple, an
African American woman and a black man.
And the African American wife was Lenny Kravitz's mother, Roxy
something. OK, that is a very specific.
Very specific, but if you know The Jeffersons, you know what
I'm talking about, OK? First day of the It's only one
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more song. I, I can't imagine it's going to
raise the average too much, but this song, we're going to have
to watch it here. We're going to rinse your soap
or your mouth out with soap. This is 1993 Smashing Pumpkins,
and I'm going to I'm going to tell you something.
After this song, I've changed myheart.
Oh boy. I've changed my heart, but this
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is this. I don't even think this is a
single. I just love like I we talked
about with some albums, you know, if they're rocking albums,
they always do some slower songsand whatever.
And this is up tempo, 8 minutes long.
It goes, it's hard, it goes really soft.
There's like quiet parts. You're like, is it over?
And then it comes back in. And if you, if you're gonna
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listen to it, you got to listen to the whole thing or you're not
going to appreciate it. OK, and this is a song called
Silver. And we can, We can't say the
whole name of the song because it is called Silver.
Oh, it's it. You know we.
Could say it because this is a podcast, but we're not going to
because we're good. Well, I'm a good man, I.
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Don't good hearted people here and we don't want to say we want
to keep this so you can listen to it in the car with the whole
family. So yes, song called Silver and
it's by The Smashing Pumpkins. 1993. 1993 This is 6 years PL.
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pre Logan. So with that in mind, let's take
a listen here on the vinyl curriculum.
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So are The Smashing Pumpkins. Yeah, I almost caught myself
there. Say the name of the song.
It's pretty good. It's a wide, it's a long song.
It's how long is it? Like over 8 minutes, 8 1/2
minutes, it looks like yeah. And it's it's gone ups and
downs. It's takes you on an emotional
(45:15):
roller coaster, even though I have none.
So it's hard for me to ride thatride, but.
It's just like life for most. People just like life.
For most people, yeah. Ups and downs.
Ups and downs. I think it it's above average,
so we'd have to go B plus for something that's above average.
That this, the smashing problems.
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I told you when I saw them in Champaign.
Billy Corgan, who, By the way, they're from Chicago as well.
Yeah. Billy Corgan was so rude.
Didn't I tell you that? I think so.
He was, you know, he was complaining like all you rich
mommy and daddy about for college and I was like 28 had a
child. I didn't go to IU of I.
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It just really upset me so afterthat.
You're also easily influenced byyour emotions that.
So this was 93 I had this album 95 came out melancholy and the
infamous sadness like double album.
And that's when I saw them in concert.
And I'm pretty sure they sang this live because this was not a
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a a single. But this is like one of their
live pieces 'cause if you think about it, you know the drummer
can do his thing and you know, it's so a good opportunity.
And they were, it upset me so much that I stopped listening to
them. I did, I mean, because I was
like, why? I don't know.
It's just like if I find out somebody's just a crappy person,
(46:39):
I don't want to necessarily. I don't anyway.
That's why I'm surprised you still record this show with me,
but well, besides the point. Unfortunately, the
administration is put it in my contract that I have to do it.
So really. But I missed that part of my
contract. I've been listening to them a
lot lately. And he came back, you know, when
there was that, that someone ranover somebody in Highland Park.
(47:01):
You know what I'm talking about in the parade.
Yeah. Billy Corgan's from there.
He donated a lot of money. He, you know, he grew up.
He was a kid back here and he was a spoiled little rich kid, I
think from New York, I mean fromChicago.
And I think he's grown up. He's a So I've gone back and I
started listening to him and I'mappreciating them more again.
So I have been listening to thisalbum and the next double album
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and I'm really enjoying it again, so I'm proud of myself.
Well, you've evolved in your What's the clapping?
What's? The clapping.
Here we go. Ready.
Yeah, There you go. That's your heart sound instead
of beating his crickets. No.
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Anyway, because I didn't think I'd ever listen enjoy them
again, but they were, they were good.
Well. They were good.
And Billy Corgan, the bassist name was Darcy when I saw her.
And then she got out of it and she just has not come back.
They reunited. The three of the four are
together got a different basis? But and they they play, I feel
(48:07):
like I saw them on the lineup for one of the festivals in
Chicago recently like the past couple years.
Am I far off base with that? No, that's what I'm saying.
They just got back because he did his own.
He had another group. I think there've been a lot of
infighting in the earlier days, but that was think about.
That was a long time ago and theoriginal ones had come back
except for her. That's PL. pre Logan.
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We don't. There might be a limit on how
many times we say PLWK. Who cares?
OK, Wow. All right, here we go.
Ready. I'm tired of listening to your
heart. B Plus.
Okay, we got 1A out of that, Logan.
One AI think overall we will B plus we're going to jump go
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right into the grade. No, Lolly yagging around didn't
hate it as I said it, that was kind of indifferent about most
of the songs. Obviously Lenny Kravitz spoke to
me in a way that I cannot describe, hence his A grade.
Might have been because you knewthis song.
Well, probably, but I I didn't dislike anything today, so that
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is more than you can say about most of the episodes.
This. Is true, but your homework is.
I want you to show this list to your your mom and your dad.
I'm just curious. OK, I'll do that right now.
I'll take a picture and send it to him and I.
Can tell you. I can say to my dad and he would
not know anything. Yeah, Well, we should get.
Yeah, we should get your what? Does your dad listen to music?
(49:36):
We should. That should be a show where he
just, he picks the songs that welisten to.
It's kind of interesting. When we were growing up, he
listened to Like Old Country. You.
Know like no Jim Reeves and Charley Pride and and then now
like when if I'm in the car withhim, he's got Sirius radio and
he has it on like easy listening, you know, which is
(49:59):
kind of interesting. Lay back, you know, not too
much. His music taste has evolved over
the years. It has, mine has, and yours as
well. So yes, I'd like to thank you
for another great episode. This has been the vinyl
curriculum. If you haven't followed us on
social media, go and do it. Right now we're on Instagram and
(50:19):
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make the show as good as we possibly can.
So with that being said, Jim, once again, thank you so much
for another great episode and wewill catch you on the next one.
Bye.
Every record tells a story. Independent labels.
I think a lot of interesting songs came out of that.
And every generation has a soundtrack.
The only hip you have in your body is made of titanium.
This is the final curriculum with Logan.
Apparently I don't know very much about anything.
Somebody calls her Tay Tay. Welcome back to another episode
(00:24):
of The Vinyl Curriculum. Logan and Jim here recording it
live in the podcast studio. Jim, how you doing?
Logan, I am great. My question is how are you
doing? I'm doing fantastic.
Cause yesterday was your birthday.
It was. I sang myself happy birthday.
I even lit myself a candle. It was great.
It was wonderful. Well, happy belated birthday to
(00:46):
you. Thank you it.
Was a big weekend. It was my anniversary weekend.
Yes, and you saw one of the Broadway musicals of which we
listened to a song from last week on episode #15 of the Vinyl
Curriculum. So if you haven't heard that
episode, it is available now on Apple Music and Spotify.
This week though, we've got a different topic, as we do every
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week. And the topic for this week is.
This is 1990s alternative rock, early 1990s though, and I
purposely did not do any slow songs.
Well, that's the bad. Well, no, they're not even some
bold songs and there's no one where it's just one person.
They're all. Groups.
I had to bring it. You got listen, some of them are
(01:30):
pretty hardcore, so I had to bring them.
Hardcore. A little bit.
The last one might be considered.
The might be hardcore, but anyway, this is an eclectic
group of alternative rocks here.You go with.
Some of it's kind of like college rock, some of his grungy
rock, some of his kind of experimental rock.
What is what is it an alternate from just regular rock?
(01:53):
I never, I've never understood what alternative.
I think, yeah. So I think with like this would
not be Guns and Roses. Right, right.
It's a little. It's just different, if not
mainstream as much. So a lot of times they will not
chart like a traditional rock band like, you know, Queen or
(02:15):
Styx or something like that. So now they had their own modern
rock charts that they go to college radio sometimes, you
know, things that are picked up on college radio.
If you were listening to MTV at the time, there was a show
called 120 Minutes that came on like at midnight in our area
throughout the week and they would play these types of songs.
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OK, well I'm looking forward to it.
I listened to the playlist throughout the course of the
weekend. It was a very interesting
birthday activity. As we drove to our birthday
lunch yesterday, so was. Mom and Dad in the car with us.
They were not, no, it was just, yeah, just Nicole and I, and we
met them there at PF Chang's. Did she make negative comments
that made it might have influenced?
(02:58):
You not no, no, no, not this time she did last she that I
didn't listen to the Broadway one with her did I was that the
one that I listened to No it was2 weeks ago whatever that show I
can't even remember now because we've.
Covers. 15 was it covers. See, this is what happens.
You start getting old. Well, your memory starts going
and it's already started. Yeah, no, I feel I woke up.
(03:21):
My knees cracked this morning. Never done that before.
When you get to age 27 I guess. I guess if any of our listeners
can crochet, he could use a little shawl because he's
sitting here in the studio with a little coat on because he's
cold and, you know, his blood's thinned and with all this old
age so. It is, and I do know how to
(03:43):
knit, so maybe I'll knit myself.A little.
I think I should do that. I will first song though Jane's
Addiction called Jane's Addiction.
Yeah the group's Jane's Addiction, right?
Have you heard of them? I have just looking at their the
song list though and I I've heard of Jane's addiction.
I think my mom was a big Jane's Addiction fan, but I didn't
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recognize any of the other songsfrom this group.
Well, you don't know their names, but I bet if you've heard
some of the songs, they, you know, they, they've been around
in like last year, they there was news they got in a fight.
Like the Perry, what was his name?
Perry Farrell. Dave Navarro.
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You might have heard of him before.
He's the guitarist. There's a clip of them.
They're in this reunion tour andall of a sudden they're punches,
like Perry's throwing punches inthe middle of the thing.
Will they? They stopped it and they
cancelled it broke up. Then everybody, Dave and the
other two guys sued him because they're like, we lost all this
(04:48):
money because you are being erratic or whatever, so.
I don't I. Don't know if it's been
announced how it turned out, butI think they were suing for like
10 million or something so they're not together anymore as
of. Last year, well, that's
unfortunate. And we are going to do just like
normal. We're going chronological.
This is 1990. Right, OK.
(05:09):
So I was a little bit younger than you at the time, 25, so.
This is a song called then caught stealing I never want to
get. Caught when you're stealing
things? No.
You don't. Let's take a listen.
Jane's addiction here on the final curriculum.
(05:43):
All right, Well, hopefully we'renot stealing things.
No, that's not how we roll here in the vinyl curriculum.
We don't steal. Well, he was stealing.
His girlfriend was stealing. This is upbeat though A.
Lot of fun. The video was funny.
And I think that what made it pretty popular, it was the
(06:03):
video. So many of these, you know, with
MTV, it was, it was a huge part of it.
With you. Well, right.
And this was when an MTV become like a big thing when that was
in the 90s. Early like 81820, but by this
time, people know what they're doing they're spending a lot of
money on the videos. Yeah, and we didn't hear it
(06:24):
here. We didn't hear it here but when
you listen to the playlist, it starts off with dog barking dog.
And if you have it turned up your dog might start barking
when he hears it because it sounds like dog barking.
All right, we, we don't have to give examples.
They can do that themselves, but.
I think we'll start off sell AB plus for Jans addiction then
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caught stealing. I like it.
Yeah, I'd add it to a playlist. It's different.
It is. It stops, it picks up.
It's a. Lot of fun.
Dog barking is a fun addition atthe bread at the beginning
there. Yeah, so.
Yeah. So just so you know, I had
either all these albums or I hadthem on some sort of a
(07:09):
compilation. I see.
I did not have this album, whichwas called Ritual.
Maybe I did Habil. I don't know how you just have
that. Who do you know Spanish?
No. Ritual de lo habatual habitual.
Habitual maybe? Yeah, anyway, we're number one
(07:31):
on the modern modern rock tracks.
It's their biggest hit. All right, so if you say you
haven't heard, you know, might not I.
Probably have heard that song before.
I know. I mean, I've heard Jane's
Addiction that when I listened to it, didn't strike me as
something that I'd heard before.But, you know, I've been living
a long life now, 27, ripe, the ripe old age of 27.
(07:53):
So yeah, have been exposed to a lot of different kinds of music.
I don't think you're going to hear this next one.
I don't think it's called cool thing with AKK it's a different.
That's kind of cool. Not cool in the gang with AK.
That cool. Yeah, OK. 1980 This is the Sonic
Youth, though, and this is definitely more like
(08:15):
experimental rock. They're different.
OK, Sonic Youth, I don't know, that's the group that I've never
heard of, but let's take a listen.
Listen, all right on vile curriculum here is cool thing
(08:52):
that's a little different. I told you it's going to be
eclectic, Logan. Sonic Youth, you're in the vinyl
curriculum. That was cool thing.
Yeah, we didn't play the part, but she is talking and a guy
comes in, he's like, yeah, righton.
And tell it like it is and stuff.
And it's this because like, it'slike, is she being racist?
(09:15):
What is going on here? And so I was reading into it.
She did an interview. We'll try that again.
That's right. She did an interview with LL
Cool J as a part of Spin magazine.
And she just was not impressed with him.
He was kind of, and she was kindof like, he wasn't like she was
(09:37):
trying to talk to him about the problem of having, you know,
women not having great roles in the music industry and he was
not interested in hearing it. So she kind of is.
It's her way of kind of addressing that through a song.
I don't know. It's different.
That was on the 120 Minutes album that they put out.
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That's how I got to know that one.
OK, not my just favorite thing I've ever heard.
Not bad. So I think a fair grade would be
AB minus, AB minus after if I'm caught stealing had it.
I don't know. I just that wasn't my jam.
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I just that's the only way I could describe that song.
They're. Going to be different.
So yeah, I mean that. And that's more experimental.
They're like, they're just out there.
I would not listen. I probably would never listen to
a Sonic Youth album. Yeah, on my own, like, because
it's just too much. Album, it's almost too much.
It's too much punk for me, almost kind of it's like, and I
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think it's really hard. I had this CD, it was ACD of,
you know, compilation album and you just you hear it enough to
where you start liking it is probably what happened for me.
But yeah, I like, I like it. Fair enough.
The next one has like a little local flair for me.
Blind Melon. That's a great name.
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This was 20/19/92, number one onthe modern rock tracks, but two
of the guys were from West Point, Ms., which is right down
the road where I'm from and now.West Point as in the military
school, That's the different West.
Point, which is right, that's close to Mississippi State,
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close to Aberdeen and Tupelo where I lived.
And this is this is a softer sound to it.
So maybe this is what you're referring to when I said some of
them are, but it's still upbeatish and I love this whole
album was great. It's called Blind Melon and then
they might have released the second one and then the guy ODD
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he was not the one from he was from Indiana, I think I read.
But it's kind of sad because they knew he had an issue.
So when they were touring, they brought along a counselor to,
like, help him, and he fired him, and then they found him.
OD so Oh my. Sad ending, but they kind of
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broke up and I think they're according to Wikipedia they're
still together, but I have not heard anything from Blind Melon.
And of course, the lead singer would be gone.
Yeah. And then you said this was from
92. Two, it's called no rain.
I think you might have known. This it was 30 years ago.
Over those 33 years ago. Wow.
All right. I think you might know this.
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Let's see. Yeah, all right, let's take a
listen to Blind Melon on the vinyl curriculum.
I like watching the bottles gathering and I start to
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complain. I am familiar with this song.
This is one that I have heard inmy eclectic music listening
journey. That would be a false statement
right there. And you do not have eclectic
music, At least you're not used to not.
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You're getting better. We're getting better thanks to
this show. No Rain by Blind Melon and you
just pointed out to me the albumcover which appears to have a
little girl dancing, right? It looks like it is a dance
outfit and they're doing like the little pose, you know how
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well you don't have children, but when you're, if you have a
daughter and she takes dance lessons, you have to get all
these expensive little outfits, you know, and they come out for
like 2 minutes and then they go off and just like, OK, that was
what we, that's what we just paid for.
But yeah, that's kind of, and I think I read that that's what it
was, somebody's sister or, you know, they didn't stage it and
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then they just used it. No.
All right. Well, no rain by Blind Melon.
We'll go solid B, OK, Solid BA. Little slower, but still.
I mean, it's upbeat, but it's not.
It's the strumming, you know, it's kind of, it's simple,
right? It's kind of just strumming away
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on the guitar, maybe a little bit of drums in the background,
but it's kind of just, yeah, I could.
You could see, I could see somebody sitting on a stool,
jamming away on their stool. Are they on the patio or they
close to the fire? They're in an open garage.
They're in an open garage. Garage open on a summer night,
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drinking a nice cold glass of water.
I would be interested to know how many of these songs your
parents know. Probably a lot of these.
I told you my mom was a big Jane's Addiction fan, so I'm
sure she's familiar with that one.
I'm sure she's heard no rain. I mean, this was like my mom, I
think I want to say graduated College in when she was what, 29
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when she had me. So 9 like early 90s like you
know. So that's what I'm saying.
She's probably she's right behind me.
Yeah, this is around this time. I think especially if this is
the type of music she listened to, if she listened to Jane's
addiction, she's going to know these, Yeah.
Interesting SO. Yeah.
OK. Well, so far we're doing all
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right. Yeah, the next 1 is really.
Disappointing you? Too bad.
You always disappoint me. By the way, you're still yelling
on that intro. Are we ever going to change that
where you're not yelling at the top of your lungs?
What do you mean yelling? You're like Angel.
It goes off Angel. Anyway.
That was the whole, that was thewhole stick with that.
Maybe seen Season 2, maybe we'llredo.
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It it's just yeah, we should we?Should.
Yeah, we really. Should we?
Should just. It'll be whispering.
It'll be welcome. Speaking of whispering
curriculum, stop whispering because that's the name of the
next song. Oh, did you know that that was
the next tie in? I am a professional gym.
You're supposed to. You're supposed to just go
along. With I can't.
I was in shock. Now this is Radiohead and
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Radiohead is still around. You know them, right?
Yep. OK, this, I love this out this.
I have the whole album and it was Pablo Honey and it was their
debut album and there was this has had creep on it.
You know I'm a creep, but this is the one I like the most.
You are a creep. Stop it Pablo Honey.
Another interesting album art there with what appears to be
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like a flower with like a baby. Like the flower or something?
Kind of artsy. Yeah, very artsy.
And then there's like cookie sprinkles around the the lot
going on here, this album cover.But that generally means that
the song should be pretty good on that album.
If they put that much effort into the album cover, maybe
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we'll find out. Does that track that
explanation? I don't think so, because
there's some pretty, you know, basic covers that are still
pretty good. All right, well, stop
whispering. Yeah, start yelling.
This is Radiohead on the vinyl curriculum.
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Radiohead on the vinyl curriculum.
Also different. That has a more truer
alternative sound to me. I don't know why, but like I
don't know if it's like just theway the guitar sounds and like,
but that kind of sound. I I guess it also reminds me of
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like some early 2000s. I don't know.
Punk is the right word, but like, why can't I think of it?
The name of the band? I don't know.
It'll come to me, but that's that to me has the more like not
you hear how like that. There's like plucking in the
background or like the way the distortion on the guitar sounds.
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To me hear it, it's sounds more like alternative music.
It does have alternative music, but there's, like I said,
there's grungy alternative. There's.
Right, Poppy, like pop, there's experimental there.
You know, there's a little, there's alternative just means
not necessarily mainstream. However, Radiohead turned into
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mainstream, right? Lenny Kravitz is another one
we're doing turned into mainstream, right?
Yeah. So like when we were listening
the other day to that Zoe Smith.No.
No. Willow Smith and.
Whatever. Listening to that album, that
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was alternative, that song getting.
But when you'll hear that album,it's it's not pop.
You don't and you don't, you don't hear it on the radio
because it's, it's an alternative thing.
You know, it might. I don't know if it's sole
alternative. I don't know if it's rap
alternative but it was not mainstream.
Yeah, it's like Q1O1. Yeah.
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Q1O1. EI told you I used to love Q1 O1
when I was in Mississippi and mybrother-in-law would record just
hours and hours of Q1 O1 and send it to me and I would play
it at work and my buddy Lee and Kurt and we would just listen to
that over and over. And I knew all the commercials
and all that, but it would be like Dismissed and Susie and the
Banshees and and then when I finally moved up this area and
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could get QO one O 1, they had already Nirvana had come
through. And ruined it came really,
really hard. It's so hard.
I just can't listen to QO one much because it's so hard for
me. Was Man Calbec was on the
station? But back then or no?
When I lived in, when I worked in the city, he was, yeah.
He's an interesting dude. Yeah, I didn't listen to.
It he's an interesting guy, but this one though, this is Stop
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Whispering by Radiohead. He also says stop whispering,
stop shouting and he's specifically talking to you
about our intro. I think we'll go another solid B
there. OK, I like it, I really do.
But it's just it's not my favorite thing.
So that that sense is AB category song.
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It also, this is the way I am too, when I'm even if you look
at like an album like Smashing Pumpkins or you look at an album
Kiss, even though most of them might be upbeat, they always
throw slow songs in there or slow it down because you need, I
don't know, you need that contrast.
You need a break. Yeah.
And I'm doing that kind of with the playlist.
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I'm trying to at least because it can't all be, you know,
harder stuff. At least I don't enjoy.
If it is, I like to. I like a break.
Yeah, but I that's see, that's why I probably don't like
listening to the whole album, you know, and we, I mean, we've,
this is the conversation we've had many a times.
But you know, that's why I make,I make a lot of my own playlist,
so I can just have the, you know, that constant energy that
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whole time and not have to suffer through the terrible
songs from the album. But that's just it.
If you listen to them through a couple of times, they're
probably not. Some of them are, I mean, some
of them are just terrible. Like I listened when we were
doing 1. I can't remember what it was.
And I as I was listening to it on Spotify, I realized I didn't
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know any of those songs on the second side of when I had the
album because I, it was not good.
I never played that side. I always so, and it was so
disappointing. You know, you albums were
expensive and you would buy something because you couldn't
hear it ahead of time. And then you're like, I just
wasted $8 or whatever it was. I don't remember what it was. $8
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huh? That's like what the albums used
to be. Now they're like 35.
Dollars, It's ridiculous. 1012, I remember.
Well, obviously it's gone up as time goes on.
That's why I'd go to the bargainbin sometime.
Yeah, go to the get. The used go to Half Price Books,
they've got a great selection ofused vinyl.
Well, you know, I'm not interested in that anymore.
I was in the old days. Yeah.
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Now the next one is one of my favorite band names, Ned's
Atomic Dustbin. Don't know where it came from.
The album was Godfather, and I like it upbeat.
You know why I like them so much?
Because it's it's pretty aggressive rock, but the vocals
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are soft and you can hear them. Yeah, and this also some really
top tier Elam art looking at thethe cover of this album, Bite,
bite, bite, bite, bite, bite, bite, bite, bite, all the way
around in a circle. I don't.
That's not the one I remember. Well, maybe it maybe this was
like just from. That could have been like a.
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Compilation. This is what I remember.
This is from a byte. Yeah, this is byte it says.
No, it was from Godfather. Oh well.
I wonder if they re released it.That's what I remember.
OK. I'm glad everybody on the radio
can hear exactly what we're looking at on our dadgum phone.
Yeah, so that was well deserved.What is this called Gray?
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Gray green, cell green. And you know after how many this
came out in 92. So after 30 something years I
finally looked at what is he talking about?
Gray cell? Green.
Well, let's listen first. You can guess.
All right, let's take a listen. That's atomic dustbin.
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Yeah. It's hard for me to tell what
exactly they're singing about. I mean, my first thought was
something to do with the brain grace cell, right?
Like a brain. Ding, Ding, Ding.
Brain matters. What's the applause button?
This said no no. There we go.
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That's the Gray stuff. Crazy.
Hold on. Hold on.
No. Oh my.
Goodness. Thank you.
Thank you studio audience. I've I feel like I need to go
outside and take a break. Yes, grayscale is has to do with
the brain. And then green was he wanted us
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to think environmentally. Oh, like it was think
environmentally conscious consciously.
I see, I never knew that. I was just saying grayscale
green. Or you can grayscale Gray over
and over and over again. That's not what I would have
gotten out of that. No, just seeing that title, I
mean, Gray cell, that was when even when the first time I
played it, I was like, that probably is something to do with
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the brain. But as we've established before,
I have trouble understanding thewords.
So I, you know, caught about half of them, but that's OK.
And you're probably half listening as you were driving to
your birthday celebration. I was very focused in the car
while I'm driving. Thank you.
I'll all hands 10 and two on thesteering wheel.
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You're not very drive so you canreally focus.
No, no, I'm sure. Well, if she was driving, if she
was driving, I'd be even less focused on the music because I'd
have to be more focused. On you just said that live well,
OK, Luckily she doesn't listen. No, she does not Gray sell green
by Nan's atomic dustbin. I think we got to go B plus for
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that. It was a little bit, it was, it
was a little harder than my normal palate is used to, but.
Did you eat before you did this?Yes, I ate.
I don't think you did. I did.
I did. I'm easily.
You ate breakfast of all. I had to deal with you making
fun of my sweater because it's so cold in here now, and now I
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have to deal with you talking about me, my eating habits.
I think that should have been anA minus at least that's a good
one. That old album I think is good.
Yeah, well, you're a little biased, so I.
Am of course I'm biased. That's OK.
Next one though, a song called Cannonball by the Breeders.
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Not to be confused with the Bleachers.
I don't think they're the bleachers.
I think they're just bleachers. This is the Breeders.
They are bleachers. the Breedersare.
It was a lady named Tanya and then two twins, Kim and Kelly
Deal, identical twins. Interesting.
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Yeah, and this was at 93. And I remember clearly when I
was in Mississippi, I'd listen to this album at work.
And I had a guy, his name was Lee Outlaw, did not like, like
he was heavy, heavy, heavy. And this was one of the few CDs
that I could play that he would like because they were
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different. Anyway, they broke up.
But this was #2 on the Billboard, Modern Rock, and #44
on just the regular billboards. So it did kind of crossover a
little. Bit this is not a group that
I've ever heard of the Breeders.They kind of broke up fairly
soon. Soon after this, yeah.
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I think they had a few and then I think one of them had drug
problems and then they're back. If you, it's funny, you look at
these, it's been so long. You look at Wikipedia, they were
together. They're back together.
You like, it'll show you like timeline chronology and or this
is a new person. And yeah, but the Tanya
Donnelly, she was in a group called Throwing Muses, and they
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have a really good song called Not Not Too Soon.
Well, they all did other things.Kim Deal ended was with the
Pixies. You've ever heard of them?
No. OK, well there's another.
Group. That's another.
Another group for another time, but this is called Cannonball.
All right, Cannonball, oh, must take a listen.
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That is Cannonball on the vinyl curriculum by the Breeders.
Yes. You were right, that does change
tempo and beat quite frequently.It's kind of all over the map a
little bit. This one.
I mean, this has kind of that classic 90s sound though.
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I guess I'm getting reminded of Nirvana.
I don't know why I don't. Maybe it's just.
The sound, well, this is the same time as Nirvana, so I'm
sure, you know, people are, you know, say you'll hear other
people, you get inspired by other people.
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So this was, yeah. Yeah, it is giving me Nirvana
vibes, but that's not necessarily a bad thing because
I like Nirvana. This though?
Cannonball by the Breeders. I think we'll go solid B Solid
B. It will be hard pressed to find
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an A. You know why?
Because you're being a little, that's what you're being.
That's not nice, Jim. That's not nice at all, OK.
I don't think you had your lunchand I think now that you're 27
you're starting to get crotchety.
Gosh, here we go again with thisnonsense.
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No, I think Salad Bee is a fair grade.
OK, next one Help Me Marry by Liz Fair.
Do you remember Liz Fair? We I do remember Liz Fair.
What? Do you know about Liz Fair?
What do I know about her? I don't.
I'd have to pull up my notes about the last time.
I know she's been on the show before.
She's from Chicago and you didn't care.
No, you. Did not care that she was from
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Chicago. No, I don't understand what that
has to do with me liking the music or not, but.
It's the local lore. We and you know how we have
proven time and time again that lore and history matter.
So thank you for playing. But yes, it does matter.
She is from Chicago. This was 93 exit to Guyville,
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which was kind of like, I think she had a like AEP, but they
don't really talk that that was her first album.
This was her in theory debut album.
And when you look at from 1993, all like Rolling Stone magazine,
Spin magazine, when they list their top albums of the year,
she's always way up there with this album.
OK, very different. Yeah, it is very different.
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Let's take a listen and we'll talk about it.
And another impartial grade coming up right after this in
the vinyl curriculum, please. I've lost my home, dear thieves,
and watch how fast. They.
Were to the flame. Local Chicago connection Liz
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Fair on the vinyl curriculum. Interesting.
Interesting as always. I'm just, I think I'm fixing
really good stuff. Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Excuse me, just for the record, I didn't say all those words.
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No, yeah, I, I don't know. I'm kind of indifferent about
this one as well. I I'm struggling to this alt
rock and you know, to, to make aconnection, like a meaningful
connection. And as we've established, that's
a big deal for me. So like, I'm kind of indifferent
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about a lot of these songs. So my suggestion would be Mr.
Kepp, by the way, that's his last.
Name I don't like. I don't like your suggestion.
My suggestion would be when you listen to the soundtrack and the
playlist, you might could do it more than once and you can just
set aside, all right, I'm going to listen to two songs.
I'm really going to listen to them, and then I'll go listen to
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my Satanic music or Taylor Swiftor whatever.
You listen to your thing. The new life of a showgirl out
now Taylor Swift. Yeah, I haven't heard that yet.
Look out. Is Bona Vera on there?
If so, I'll listen to it otherwise.
But you know, it does take time.I understand that.
These are the albums that I've been listening to for decades.
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I get it and you're just now being exposed to it, but I don't
know why you always feel like you have to put yourself in a
setting. It doesn't make any sense to me.
I don't know if anybody who's ever told.
Me. No, no, no.
No, I don't know where I'm wouldbe see myself listening to this.
Well, I'll tell you where you'relistening to it wherever you're
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listening to it. If you're in the car, you're
listening to it. If you're.
That's not even, that's not whatI'm referring to in this
specific instance. I know, I know what you're
saying, but I'm just saying likethis, I don't know.
I can't that not even just I canvisualize listening to it.
That's not the issue here. I just can't.
Like, I don't know, it doesn't strike me.
It doesn't strike an emotional chord in this.
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What? Beautiful body.
What has ever struck an emotional chord in your body?
Because I have yet, yeah, to seeanything.
OK, hit me. What is it?
Help me, marry and help me. Help me marry.
I think we'll just go solid B. Oh, that's generous, because I
thought you were. Going to no, I like I said it,
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it I don't dislike it. Yeah, I and I'm I'm struggling
to come up with how I feel aboutit.
And I know being an audio only medium words are are golden
goose on the show, but I'm struggling to to know how I feel
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about it at least like like songs like that.
So I think we just move on because this next one at least
you know Spaceman by 4 Non Blondes.
Are they redheads? They are.
They all had dark hair. Yes.
OK. And.
Very alternative looking I wouldsay.
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I think they were goth before goth was the thing.
OK, this was a song that I thought sounded very familiar,
and it happened to be another song on the album.
Album called Bigger, Better, Faster and More Exclamation
Point. Yes, that song called What's Up
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is what I was thinking this songwas.
But this is not What's Up. This is Spaceman.
Which is better to me because I'm sick of what's up everybody
and their mother. Plays that is a little
overplayed. And I don't like to do that.
So let's listen to Spaceman by 4Non Blondes by one blonde and 1
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Gray haired individual. What do we call you?
I don't know why are we? What we're It's not by us,
though. Why?
Well, I was trying to make a connection.
That was a terrible failing. Let's take a listen.
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Space Man and I said. Hey, hey, hey.
Yeah, yeah, I said, hey, are yousaying that they.
What's going on? They sound too similar.
No well they do sound similar. I don't think they sound too
similar, but it also reminds me that song that what's up song
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reminds me of the Clifford the Big Red Dog theme song.
Not sure how you are familiar with that, but I.
Know who Clifford is but I neverwatched his show.
Yeah, Spaceman by 4 Non Blondes I I like that group.
I like the sound that they have.I think we'll go B plus for them
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for four non blondes by a blondeand.
You're a dirty blonde if anything.
Well actually I also have the red hair jeans so like my the
facial hair has a tinge of red in it, but strawberry blondes.
That was more detailed than anybody wanted.
Well I just think that's an interesting genetic quirk.
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But spaceman by 4 Non Blondes? I like the that group and I
recognize it almost immediately even from that first line that
it was for non Blondes just because I don't know if all the
songs sound like that. I guess I've only heard.
She's the one singer, so that's that's the problem.
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She's got a unique voice, so when she sings, she's going to
sound like her. And not to throw it back to the
white void again, but this sound, this song sounds like it
was recorded in the white void. I don't know if it's just the
reverb on her voice but it sounds like a very large space
and I picture the white void. Not important.
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B + 4 spaceman by 4 Non Blondes.I wonder why you say you have a
hard time hearing lyrics but youalways talk about the production
of it. The sound, yeah, I can.
I'm like it. I can hear the sound and.
You're focusing on the wrong things, Logan.
I don't know what it is. It's not that I can hear it.
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I can hear the noise, but I can't understand the lyrics.
But I can. I can hear the sound like I can
hear how the words sound, but I can't always pick out what
they're saying. Does that make sense?
Yeah, and sometimes they're theydon't enunciate at all.
Yeah. So, you know, like I have no
idea what they're saying. I'm listening.
I'm trying to focus and you can't.
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I can understand typically what she and she says.
Fawah better way fall wah instead of 4A.
She says fall wah. Yeah, I see.
I wouldn't, I wouldn't gather that I'd have to listen.
I'd have to very intently listenmultiple times which.
You should be doing is what I'm trying to do.
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That's what we're talking about.There's only 10 songs on this
playlist and new rule Nicole can't be in the car because she
does not like this type of music.
No, she does. Not she is going to influence
you and make roll her eyes and all that kind of.
Stuff, Yeah. If you haven't heard this next
one, I'm going to eat my shoe because this is Lenny Kravitz.
Are you going to go my way? But another great album.
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Yeah, Lenny Kravitz. He's not the clarinet guy.
Who's the clarinet guy? Kenny G Yeah, no, OK.
They're very similar in zero ways.
So this is 93. I thought you're going to.
I thought you're going to agree with me for once, but I get
Lenny Kravitz and Kenny G. They both had curly hair, if
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that does anything. Because Kenny G had curly hair.
Well, I don't know, let's just listen and we'll analyze after
that during the vinyl curriculum.
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What do you know? I don't know.
I like that song. I've heard it before.
Yeah, recognized it. I was trying to pick up where
I've heard it before and it's it's got to be like ATV show or
something. I couldn't.
I can like picture it but it. On the radio, because it's
unimportant, very number one. And he, he became very, he
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crossed over. Into the mainstream.
Yeah, he became very successful.Yeah, I think when I worked at
the radio station we used to play this song a lot because we
go do like live events and stuffwhere we could set up speakers
and play music. So that's probably where I'm
familiar with this one for. But I do like it.
Other than that, it's nice kind of rock'n'roll and has a good
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beat to it. I think we're going to go with
an A. I think that was a pity grade,
No? I'm looking at all these BS B -,
B. Plus no no this is not the
Beehive show. OK, we we have other things than
BS in here. Now you've seen Lenny Kravitz in
a movie. Do you know that?
I have. You have.
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He was in Hunger Games. He was in the original Hunger
Games. Really.
He was sentra. I don't know did.
Sentra did her outfit. Yes, yes, OK.
I think that was his name Sentra.
Yeah, yeah, that was Lenny Kravitz.
Yeah. He also he also married Lisa
Bonet, who was way back when when was the Cosby Show.
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She was the teenage girl and they married and she was also in
a different world, was a spin off and then they were married.
Oh, but yeah, I don't know. I don't know much about Manny
Kravitz. As I said, I confused him quite
frequently with Kenny G. But no.
And his mother? You'll never know this.
Have you ever? Do you remember The Jeffersons?
(42:19):
No, with I know the Jetsons likethe cartoon.
This is about as far back The Jeffersons were.
It was a spin off of all in the family.
They were the African American couple who Archie Bunker
neighbors who always had an issue.
Will they end up moving? And they had their own show.
And in that show they had white neighbors.
(42:42):
Well, it was a mixed. It was a mixed couple, an
African American woman and a black man.
And the African American wife was Lenny Kravitz's mother, Roxy
something. OK, that is a very specific.
Very specific, but if you know The Jeffersons, you know what
I'm talking about, OK? First day of the It's only one
(43:03):
more song. I, I can't imagine it's going to
raise the average too much, but this song, we're going to have
to watch it here. We're going to rinse your soap
or your mouth out with soap. This is 1993 Smashing Pumpkins,
and I'm going to I'm going to tell you something.
After this song, I've changed myheart.
Oh boy. I've changed my heart, but this
(43:26):
is this. I don't even think this is a
single. I just love like I we talked
about with some albums, you know, if they're rocking albums,
they always do some slower songsand whatever.
And this is up tempo, 8 minutes long.
It goes, it's hard, it goes really soft.
There's like quiet parts. You're like, is it over?
And then it comes back in. And if you, if you're gonna
(43:46):
listen to it, you got to listen to the whole thing or you're not
going to appreciate it. OK, and this is a song called
Silver. And we can, We can't say the
whole name of the song because it is called Silver.
Oh, it's it. You know we.
Could say it because this is a podcast, but we're not going to
because we're good. Well, I'm a good man, I.
(44:07):
Don't good hearted people here and we don't want to say we want
to keep this so you can listen to it in the car with the whole
family. So yes, song called Silver and
it's by The Smashing Pumpkins. 1993. 1993 This is 6 years PL.
(44:27):
pre Logan. So with that in mind, let's take
a listen here on the vinyl curriculum.
(44:53):
So are The Smashing Pumpkins. Yeah, I almost caught myself
there. Say the name of the song.
It's pretty good. It's a wide, it's a long song.
It's how long is it? Like over 8 minutes, 8 1/2
minutes, it looks like yeah. And it's it's gone ups and
downs. It's takes you on an emotional
(45:15):
roller coaster, even though I have none.
So it's hard for me to ride thatride, but.
It's just like life for most. People just like life.
For most people, yeah. Ups and downs.
Ups and downs. I think it it's above average,
so we'd have to go B plus for something that's above average.
That this, the smashing problems.
(45:36):
I told you when I saw them in Champaign.
Billy Corgan, who, By the way, they're from Chicago as well.
Yeah. Billy Corgan was so rude.
Didn't I tell you that? I think so.
He was, you know, he was complaining like all you rich
mommy and daddy about for college and I was like 28 had a
child. I didn't go to IU of I.
(45:56):
It just really upset me so afterthat.
You're also easily influenced byyour emotions that.
So this was 93 I had this album 95 came out melancholy and the
infamous sadness like double album.
And that's when I saw them in concert.
And I'm pretty sure they sang this live because this was not a
(46:17):
a a single. But this is like one of their
live pieces 'cause if you think about it, you know the drummer
can do his thing and you know, it's so a good opportunity.
And they were, it upset me so much that I stopped listening to
them. I did, I mean, because I was
like, why? I don't know.
It's just like if I find out somebody's just a crappy person,
(46:39):
I don't want to necessarily. I don't anyway.
That's why I'm surprised you still record this show with me,
but well, besides the point. Unfortunately, the
administration is put it in my contract that I have to do it.
So really. But I missed that part of my
contract. I've been listening to them a
lot lately. And he came back, you know, when
there was that, that someone ranover somebody in Highland Park.
(47:01):
You know what I'm talking about in the parade.
Yeah. Billy Corgan's from there.
He donated a lot of money. He, you know, he grew up.
He was a kid back here and he was a spoiled little rich kid, I
think from New York, I mean fromChicago.
And I think he's grown up. He's a So I've gone back and I
started listening to him and I'mappreciating them more again.
So I have been listening to thisalbum and the next double album
(47:25):
and I'm really enjoying it again, so I'm proud of myself.
Well, you've evolved in your What's the clapping?
What's? The clapping.
Here we go. Ready.
Yeah, There you go. That's your heart sound instead
of beating his crickets. No.
(47:46):
Anyway, because I didn't think I'd ever listen enjoy them
again, but they were, they were good.
Well. They were good.
And Billy Corgan, the bassist name was Darcy when I saw her.
And then she got out of it and she just has not come back.
They reunited. The three of the four are
together got a different basis? But and they they play, I feel
(48:07):
like I saw them on the lineup for one of the festivals in
Chicago recently like the past couple years.
Am I far off base with that? No, that's what I'm saying.
They just got back because he did his own.
He had another group. I think there've been a lot of
infighting in the earlier days, but that was think about.
That was a long time ago and theoriginal ones had come back
except for her. That's PL. pre Logan.
(48:30):
We don't. There might be a limit on how
many times we say PLWK. Who cares?
OK, Wow. All right, here we go.
Ready. I'm tired of listening to your
heart. B Plus.
Okay, we got 1A out of that, Logan.
One AI think overall we will B plus we're going to jump go
(48:53):
right into the grade. No, Lolly yagging around didn't
hate it as I said it, that was kind of indifferent about most
of the songs. Obviously Lenny Kravitz spoke to
me in a way that I cannot describe, hence his A grade.
Might have been because you knewthis song.
Well, probably, but I I didn't dislike anything today, so that
(49:14):
is more than you can say about most of the episodes.
This. Is true, but your homework is.
I want you to show this list to your your mom and your dad.
I'm just curious. OK, I'll do that right now.
I'll take a picture and send it to him and I.
Can tell you. I can say to my dad and he would
not know anything. Yeah, Well, we should get.
Yeah, we should get your what? Does your dad listen to music?
(49:36):
We should. That should be a show where he
just, he picks the songs that welisten to.
It's kind of interesting. When we were growing up, he
listened to Like Old Country. You.
Know like no Jim Reeves and Charley Pride and and then now
like when if I'm in the car withhim, he's got Sirius radio and
he has it on like easy listening, you know, which is
(49:59):
kind of interesting. Lay back, you know, not too
much. His music taste has evolved over
the years. It has, mine has, and yours as
well. So yes, I'd like to thank you
for another great episode. This has been the vinyl
curriculum. If you haven't followed us on
social media, go and do it. Right now we're on Instagram and
(50:19):
Facebook and then we're also thepodcast is available on all
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Be sure to give us a follow and we want to hear your feedback
too. You know, we want to we want to
(50:41):
make the show as good as we possibly can.
So with that being said, Jim, once again, thank you so much
for another great episode and wewill catch you on the next one.
Bye.
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