October 23, 2025 • 49 mins
In this week’s episode of The Vinyl Curriculum, Logan and Jim take a deep dive into Billy Joel’s iconic album Piano Man. From the heartfelt storytelling of the title track to the vivid characters scattered throughout the record, Jim passionately breaks down Joel’s genius — while Logan, as usual, keeps his trademark poker face. His lack of emotion drives Jim up the wall as he tries to get Logan to feel the music instead of just analyzing it. The result? A hilarious mix of frustration, laughter, and genuine appreciation for one of the greatest singer-songwriters of all time.
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Every record tells a story. Independent labels.
I think a lot of interesting songs came out of that.
And every generation has a soundtrack.
The only hip you have in your body is made of titanium.
This is the final curriculum with Logan.
Apparently I don't know very much about anything.
Somebody calls her Tay Tay. Welcome back, ladies and
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gentlemen, to another episode ofthe Vinyl Curriculum.
Logan and Jim here, recording live in the podcast studio
today. Jim, how's it going?
Good, really good Again. Yes, of course we're live.
Why do you say recording live? Of course we're live.
Because the people need to know that there is.
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We're not faking this. How would you fake it?
You'd be dead and somebody would.
What? You, of course you're going to
record it live. Well, I mean, you know, some
people don't, some people had, there's multiple takes for
things we don't, we don't do, wedon't play that game here as
people who have listened probably.
Can tell we are the. Utmost professionals in this
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broadcast setting so. Yeah, Logan, we're doing
something for the second time now.
Last remember last week we did an entire album.
I think it went well. You.
Yeah. You gave it decent grades, so I
gave you an opportunity. I just want to put it out there
to the audience. I gave you an opportunity.
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I gave you 3 classic albums and I said which one of these do you
want to do? One of the options was Fleetwood
Mac's Rumors. One of the options was the
Eagles Hotel California. The third option was Billy
Joel's The Piano Man. Which one did you choose?
I chose the piano man. Yes, you did.
Yes, I did. So if you don't like this, it's
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on you buddy. First of all, no, no, I don't
think that's the case. But I think out of those three
options, the one that I thought,thought past tense, thought that
I would like the best was Piano Man.
Because I've always considered myself a pretty big, big Billy
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Joel fan, you know, thought about because, well, he's not
doing the residency at Madison Square Garden anymore, but I
thought about multiple times going just to see that.
Why? What makes you a fan?
I don't know, I just like, I think I just like Piano Man, the
song, and we're listening to this album and we'll get into
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this as well throughout the course of the episode.
But I realized why certain songsare more popular than others and
why people sometimes, you know, like people will only know one
song from the album or like the radio stations will only play
one song from the album. I know, I know now why that is
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the case Because based on the 2 full albums that we've listened
to, you know, I think out of those me, there's maybe 3 songs
that I would add to a playlist and I think those are the three
songs that would be played on the radio so.
Well, OK, we'll, we'll just takeit one step at a time because I
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think you probably half listenedto it.
So as we listen to it a second time for this recording, I don't
understand why you don't think you might, you might go a little
bit higher. You've already said before in
the past that sometimes hearing it a second time helps.
So we're going to see what you what you start off now.
The first one is called First ofall, this is 1973.
This was Billy Joel's second album.
And what's interesting, we, Karen and I watched this
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documentary called and so it goes.
I think it was on HBO, two-part very long, like an hour or
something each fascinating though.
So I would suggest you, if you think you like him, watch it.
But his first album, you know, he was, he and his buddies would
travel and do all the live showsand everything.
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He finally got a contract. Someone was producing it and
when he heard it, they had speedup the entire thing.
Like you know how they hit instead of being 100% speed, it
was the whole thing is so it wasruined.
He hated it. He was ticked, he sued the they
were trying to get out of a contract with this guy because
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this guy had just ruined it. And so while he was waiting to
get out of that contract for thefirst album, he got a gig as a
piano man in a bar with a fake. He had a fake name and you know,
he would just making money and his, you know, wrote some of
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these songs, some of the songs were old.
And then when he finally got hissecond album, they kind of got
they had to pay some money. They got out of that contract,
got a new contract, did this album.
So this was kind of the first album that he was happy with and
it was also the first album to give him a hit.
So I know you're going to love it because there was, there's a
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lot of motion in that story. Yeah, yeah.
But I would like to point out too that I'm only used to Billy
Joel without having any hair, and so this album cover is a
little frightening like this. This is nightmare inducing.
Well, Halloween is coming up. Yeah.
And that wow, that is the eyes. The eyes have a little color in
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there, I think a little bit of well, something, something in
there. Well, just remember that our
audience can't see that, so let's move on.
We. Want to inspire them to go and
look up the album and listen to it?
Yes, it's because Jim has the playlist available on our web
page, Final curriculum.carrd.co and that's where all the
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playlists are available there and also links to the Apple
Music, to Spotify, all of that fun stuff where the podcasts
available and the playlist. So with that being said, song
#1, we've got 10 Humdingers to get through today.
What is song #1? It's the travel and prayer.
The travel and prayer. OK, And we've got three
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different parts of this song I want to listen to because
there's a lot of these are kind of like the meatloaf one last
time. Different stages have different
sounds, different instrumentations.
If you don't like some of these songs, you have to at least
appreciate the piano, playing the fiddle, playing the
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harmonic. I mean everything.
Very talented. Yeah, I never said he wasn't
talented. I just said that a lot of these
songs sound similar. Similar.
Oh no, Is that what you're goingto go against?
Is similar. Well, let's look at the first
one, and we'll have this argument later.
This is travel and prayer right here on the vinyl curriculum.
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Hey I'll take a look on around and I define where my baby is
going to be. Yikes.
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I'm going to tell you something right now.
If you say something tacky, I might throw something at you
because that is great music. Is that what it is?
Yeah. The the fiddle is a little off
putting from Billy Joel. It's different.
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I don't know, in the mouth. The mouth harp is is that's
that's what you I guess that's what you call yeehaw country,
right? I guess, but it just you know,
this think about this, this is how many 50 years ago?
So it's going to be, you know, but it's anyway.
OK, let's go. What?
What are you giving? Boing, boing, Boing.
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We're going to start off with a solid B.
OK. Solid B, The mouth harp.
The mouth harp brought it back for me.
It's it's good. I mean it, you know it's a good
first song of the album, right? Kind of set the tone and then to
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go right in the piano man is a interesting choice as well.
Remember how we talked about howthey build you up and then they
bring you down, They build you up and they bring you down?
That's what happens. Like you're riding on a roller
coaster. Yes, but when you just have your
one little playlist of Taylor Swift songs, they're all going
to be very similar. Don't hate on Tay Tay.
I told you, you're going to, you're going to really attract
some enemies doing that. I know it this was a single that
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they released. For travel and prayer.
Yeah, it peaked at 77. He actually wrote this in like
late 7172. So this is when he had, you
know, recorded and I'm sure he played a million times and all
that kind of stuff. So anyway.
Love it, but how do they decide which ones were singles?
Then they just like, oh, this one's pretty good.
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This one's going to be a single kind of thing.
Or like, who are they doing? Some sort of test audience or
what's going on here? I don't.
Think the artists, a lot of, I don't know this because I'm not
in music industry, but I think I've seen enough.
I think they even mentioned it in his documentary that
sometimes they won't release this one and they're like, no,
we're going to release this one.So I think they, I don't know
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how much. Who decides what's going on?
Especially if this is one of your first albums, you're not
going to have a lot of clout. It's just some business suit in
a room somewhere making that decision so.
Remember in Bohemian Rhapsody they were talking about, oh, you
can't do that, and they're like Myers.
So yeah, I don't know. I love that song.
You give it ABI, give it an A. Big talking.
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No, that's good. Now, some of these I don't.
Some of these I don't care for. I'm going to be very honest.
Yeah, well, there's some I don'tcare for either, but this next
one I do care for a lot, actually.
Song called Piano Man, Yeah. That was my.
Nickname Nickname in high school, piano man was.
Not I thought you were white. What'd you say?
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Marshmallow? What'd you say?
Big Milk, DJ Big Milk. That's my DJ name actually.
But Piano Man was is a great song and I think we just take a
listen. I already know what my grade is
going to be, so I to be honest when I said I listened to the
album, didn't listen to this song.
But we've already heard this song.
I could probably sing almost every word of this song.
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OK, then you every grade you give me, I'm going to add half a
grade because you know what? You're not listening to the
whole Billy Joel is trying to tell you.
In an order in the order. Story and he's trying to set the
mood and so if you're not going along with his thought process,
then we're not going to give you're not being a valid grade
giver. Yeah, OK, what again?
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Let's take a listen to Piano Man.
It's. 9:00 on a Saturday. Regular crowd shuffles in.
Well, we're all in the mood for a melody.
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And Jim, I'm feeling pretty all right with this song.
I'm not feeling all right. I'm a little wound up.
I could tell like. I'm ready to fight, I'm tired.
I had a long weekend. By the way, I went and saw a
concert on Thursday night and I saw Ninko case at the salt shed
inside. First time I've ever I saw, I've
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seen a concert inside the salt shed.
I was not in. I was way in the back in the
Bleacher kind of areas and they did.
She didn't have a screen up. So it was.
I didn't. I was not you.
Just saw us back on the. Screen airline tray with my son
went to one last night and he sent me a vote and they had two
big springs up for them. So whoever it was, well.
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So I'm a little disappointed in that, but I did love the music
and I do love that place. Salt Shed.
Well, it's not. It's not Madison Square Garden
where our friend Billy Joel was has a residency or had a he's
done with the residency now, right.
I think but that he had like oneof the longest running 10 years
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at Madison Square Garden, the longest residency.
I believe so. But Billy Joel's Piano Man,
probably the most famous song byBilly Joel, right That's.
Definitely what kicked it out for him.
His This is obviously my favorite Billy Joel song, so
it's got to be an A. It's the only one, you know.
That's what I'm saying. Why would you want to go see him
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just because this song? You don't know any of his other
stuff? Name me four other Billy Joel
songs without looking at something.
You're looking at something. What's the the wine song?
Bottle of red, bottle of white or something?
OK, scenes in an Italian restaurant.
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That's the same one. Oh, that's the same song.
Nice try. Yeah.
Yeah. You don't know Allentown.
You don't know any of this stuff.
OK, Our point was proven. OK, So you gave it an A?
That's great. I used to give it an A I'd
probably give it AAB now becauseI'm kind of why?
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Because I like it so overplayed.Is that the case?
Yeah, So, yeah, but that was definitely the one that got him
going. I don't think it made number
one, though. I think it was top 25.
But I think this is one of thosealbums that over time has just
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maintained like, you know, sometimes people do it and then
you don't ever hear from again. This people still listen to this
album, I think because it's got some classic songs on it.
Yeah, but yeah, 25 is how God and everybody sings along to it.
You know, it's one of those things and this emotional, this
emotional song when you you know, he's and it.
I don't think they were true people, but he said they were
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based off of people he met at when he was doing.
This. You're talking about Jonathan
Barr, who's a friend of mine? Yeah.
Gave me my drinks for free. Yes.
I see. That kind of thing.
So it was like he, you know, he was taking some.
Real life inspiration and inserting it into his music,
making millions of dollars and I'm sure not giving these people
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a dime so. Right, because they weren't real
people, so it's OK. Fair enough.
Now the next. The next one ain't the Speaking
of crimes, this was called Ain'tno crime was not a single more
of a poppy rocky kind of thing. Like more.
Poppy, Rocky. Kind of just listen, I mean.
Say what you think, all right. Ain't No Crime by Billy Joel Are
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your eyes open, Jim? They look like they want to be
closed. They're open.
They want to be taking a nap or something.
No, not yet. That's around 2:00-ish.
This has a the classic Billy Joel sound.
What is that by the way? I mean, it's the piano, it's him
singing, obviously, but he's also got like the the organ in
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there, which I think is present in some of his songs.
And I don't know, just to me gives that kind of fundamental
Billy Joel sound like music sound, I guess.
But that's that's one that's like a bigger that that is a
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remember we talked about like the grand songs.
That's one of the more grandiosesongs I would think just, I
don't know, just I think the organ makes that gives that vibe
like a big I I see like a big church choir or something like
like not singing with him. But that's kind of what comes to
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mind when I picture what I'd be singing on stage.
OK. Are you done?
Yeah, I am. I'm waiting on a grade.
I think B plus. OK.
I think B plus. I'm probably going to give it AB
minus. I don't care for that song as
much. Yeah.
It's one of those things, I think if I saw him in concert,
which I, by the way, I wish I had but I never did.
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But if I saw him in concert, I'msure I would love it because I'm
sure he's he's an entertainer and he's going to the way he
plays the piano. And I'm sure I would love it be
Singing Alive. Yeah.
But just to listen to it, it's like, OK, it's the B tier song.
Not as much. Now this next one is one of my
favorites and it was the B side.Let me double check.
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It was the B side of Piano Man, you know What does that mean to
you it? Was on the.
Backside, Yeah. So when the single was released
of The Piano Man, it was the flip side of it.
Yeah, so it was nice. That's where the Bad Songs goes
on the B side. Yeah, but sometimes there, there
are times where both sides have charted which I don't quite
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understand how they how can you both chart because it's the only
buy one. It must be with record play.
I mean, with radio play, probably, yeah.
They throw in the rate the people requesting on the radio.
And that's probably it goes backto some suit in a in a boardroom
somewhere deciding this song should go on the back.
You know, I can't imagine that'sthe artist who I mean, I get
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maybe like a now Billy Joel could.
But yeah, obviously we're not, we don't have AB sides anymore.
But I would think back then, especially just starting out, I
would again think that someone just made that decision for him
based on what that person, some record executive, liked.
And yeah, obviously sometimes the people have different
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opinions, so. This was called You're My Home
and it's going to be slow, so just get ready for it, yeah.
That's how I feel already. It would take an emotion and you
know, I was going to look this weekend.
I didn't do it. I was going to look for what are
people who have no emotion, whatkind of person are they?
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And I'm sure serial killer wouldcome up so.
I'm pretty sure sociopath. Sociopath.
I don't know. There's got.
Hopefully there's other things, as I hope you're not those, but
something ain't right when you can't have an emotion.
It's it's a condition called Alexithyma thymia.
OK. Alexithymia, which translates to
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no words for emotions. Wow.
Alexithymia, also called emotional blindness, is a
neuropsychology, A neuropsychological phenomenon.
You're emotionally blind. I think that's very.
Characterized by significant challenges in recognizing,
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sourcing, and describing one's emotions by the bank.
It's not that you can't describeyour emotions because you can
clearly say what you feel. It's just you can't.
You don't. You're not drawn to the emotion
part of it. I don't know, I think sociopath
is probably the right one anyway.
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I like this better. Alexithymia, I'm gonna do some
more research while we listen tothis song.
You're my home. Why don't instead?
Let's focus on the lyrics and try to work up a tear.
You're my home. When you look.
Into. My eyes and you see the crazy
gypsy in my soul. Home can be.
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The Pennsylvania Turnpike. You're my.
Home. Thanks, Logan.
No. No.
What? No, Logan.
If that's not an A+ or a high AI, don't know what he is.
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How about? AB minus OK.
Now you're just. That's just pissing me.
Off, and I'm not even going to lie about it.
That's just being. Rude.
No, it's not. I mean that.
What do you like about that? Song, I want you to Let's talk
about it. I just don't.
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Again, it goes back to I can't visit.
What am I going to listen to this song?
What? What is?
What is Billy Joel talking about?
I don't. Know that's the problem.
That is the problem, yeah. He's talking to.
His love and saying you're my home.
I don't care where I am. I don't care what we're doing.
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I don't care how bad we've got it.
If I'm with you, I'm home. I just.
Almost start crying. Talking about just what I just
said. What?
Here's why would that not. Even resonate with you in some
small way. Here's the question.
Yeah, what are they singing about in Bohemian Rhapsody?
It's just craziness. OK.
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But that's not an. Emotional song.
This is emotional. They they slow it down so you
can understand the lyrics and they're trying to, he's trying
to, you know, give you some. Oh.
Golly, poor Nicole. I mean, this fiance of yours is
just setting herself up for justa lifetime of.
Unhappiness, I know. Misery, I know.
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It's. It's a work.
We're working on it. Well, first thing.
To work on is listen to lyrics songs and see if you might like
can you read lyrics? Can you read like if I were to
give you the lyrics? Can I?
Give you the. Lyrics and you read them.
Would that help? Could you?
If you read a book, can you get like attached to a book if you
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read it or you don't read? I listen.
To the books so, but I don't buythat.
Because you're not paying attention I when I'm.
Listening to a book, I am. But when I'm listening to a
song, I'm listening to the experience of the song.
I'm listening to the musicality of it, how it sounds, not
necessarily what they're saying.Well, that sounds wonderful.
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What are your? Why is it AB minus then?
Because it's just, it's not something that I would listen
to. Oh my God.
OK, Logan, let's move on Sometimes.
Sometimes stroke out over. Here with my blood pressure,
it's let's just move on sometimes.
I I feel it important to say this.
Sometimes I you can't even verbalize.
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Why I don't? Like a song like that, like
it's, I can't even put it into words.
Like it just isn't doesn't appeal to because I understand.
Why it doesn't appeal to you? Because you if you literally
aren't listening to the words, then why would it appeal to you?
How come you could listen to thefact that the girl got in the
foe by foe with red dirt on her flip flops?
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You, you know, you're OK with that, which was terrible lyrics,
but you can't listen to this manopening his heart up.
But again, it's I. Wasn't I'm not listening to what
the lyrics I'm not analyzing. It's not a book.
I'm not doing a book report on the music I'm or the the
contents of the lyrics I'm turning.
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My head, I see you. I see.
All right, we're going to move on to.
The Ballad of Billy the Kid. I'm very disappointed.
Disappointed in you right now. OK, you don't have to listen.
Well, he's telling the story. I don't know if you want to
listen to it or not. He's telling the story in this
one about Billy the Kid. All right.
I remember and there's listen toit.
Three, there's three parts to this because again, it's
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different segments and differentsounds.
Well, let's listen to all three.Jim, you need to go like drink
some waters. No, you just.
Need to be a clue is what you need to do all right.
Well, Billy the Kid, the vinyl curriculum.
Let's take a listen. From a town.
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Known as Wheeling WV never travel heavy yes he always roll
alone and he soon couldn't many all regardless.
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That is a good point you. Made a good point while we were
listening to that, that that very well could be a Broadway
song. Yeah.
Are you done being disappointed now?
No, I'm still. Upset I'm just wondering if I'm
going to stroke out or if my blood pressure will go down a
little bit Because you're fixed to give it a decent grade.
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I mean, I that was one of the better ones on the album.
Higher energy not a great start like you were doing
demonstrating your horse riding ability there, but did was he
set the. Stage, I think he was set, the
stage that you're out West, That's what he was doing.
He's telling you a story. Yeah.
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And he didn't say. On this next song, we're going
to be out West in the wild. Wild West.
He was able to tell you that just from the opening sounds.
See how that's talent? I'm given an A minus.
Though, Wow, OK. My blood pressure is back to
normal. My watch isn't warning me.
I'm given an. A minus.
I think that again, gave me grandiose Broadway stage vibes
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for the majority of that song. Like Big Show kind of thing was
that that wasn't part of a musical or anything.
That was just. No, that's just.
One of his songs it was AB song AB side to another song later
on. If I only had the.
Words but the B side to a single.
You're talking about interesting, so they didn't
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release it. Although it says in the UK they
released it so. What they they just put out one
song on one side of the record. Like for the sink when.
You put out a single, yeah, but then you always.
Have a back you have AB side. Was that on like a 40?
Five then, because it didn't need to be as yeah, it was a 45.
So they'd have an album, you could buy the album, but they
would release the single and that's what they would play on
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the radio, yes. And that's that's.
What would get people interestedin the album?
Because if you didn't know they had an album out, there were no,
there was no Internet, so you would hear.
If you heard a song on the radio, that's the only way you
would really know. You're telling me there was?
No Apple Music back in. There was none.
There was none, so you just had to.
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Go and down your local St. Corners sock hop and you know,
Sokka bounce. No, that was over into the
jukebox. No, you know we did.
Do nickels in there. We would look.
At you'd always the charts were a big thing, like you'd look at
the charts Billboard top 100 andyou'd see what's going up or
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down at least especially when I was in my, you know, now is that
on a. Billboard.
Is that why they call it Billboard Top 100?
Album. I mean, it was a magazine,
Billboard magazine, but it was just that.
They didn't actually have a billboard where they put this is
the Best Song. Maybe they did.
I don't know, never saw it in Tupelo, Ms. Fair enough.
Well, this one's not in Mississippi.
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This next one, this one's not stopping in Nevada.
Or stop in Nevada I guess it's called.
No, I think it's not. Oh yeah, I skip.
One look at that, worst comes toworst.
Which is you're the worst today?I know, I think.
We're both tired. This is not.
I'm not tired. I'm.
Angry now because I'm wide awake.
I couldn't go take a nap now if I wanted to, OK.
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Worst comes to worst, what do anything special about this one
before we listen to it? No it.
It did peak at 80. It was a single.
And like I said, that other one was no, that was not.
That's not true. Well, ballad Billy.
Kidd was on the back of. If only had the words.
I don't know what was on the back of this one, The Ballad I.
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Also, the other thing I want to say about The Ballad of Billy
Kidd just makes me think of The Ballad of Ricky Bobby.
Yeah. And that's that is a high
quality movie. John C Reilly.
Yeah. Will Ferrell.
Yes, it's right. Up your alley it is.
Yeah. If only they sang some of these
songs, you might like them. But this is another one.
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Of the rocky poppy ones, all right.
Worst. Comes to worst and then another
impartial grade here on the vinyl curriculum today.
I'm living like a rich man's son.
Tomorrow morning I could be a bomb.
I'll get along. I don't know.
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Were those steel dryers I. Know I was just going to.
Ask you that was that steel drums?
I didn't like it. They were.
And it also that that I don't know what that guitar move is,
if that's like slapping, if that's what that's called when
we did the funky. 70s there was the the Bootsy or whatever I
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think was the first guy to do that, yeah.
What year was this? This was in the 80s.
No, no, this is the. 70s I was going to say this.
Has that is the 70s sound? I was trying to think of when
that sound was popular when I was listening to it in the car,
early 70s. I think is when the funky stuff
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started, when they were slappingit.
This was 7774, but then the incorporation.
Of the steel drums, yeah. I don't know.
Is different. He's from New York.
Maybe there was, you know, I mean, I don't know.
Is. That a big place.
For you might have St. vendors or you might have an area where
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you have some immigrants, you know there they were playing, I
don't know. Yeah, but by this time he had.
Moved to California so I don't know maybe it was got he thought
heard it there I think we'd. Just go solid B for that.
Didn't I kind of felt indifferent about it, you know,
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Didn't hate it. I thought it was OK, thought it
was good OK, not above average. It had a beat average.
It had a beat, so that's. Going to always, if it's got a
beat, you're going to have a little bit of a higher grade.
I would also like to. Say, I would also like to say
that you're giving me all this slack.
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Yeah, I haven't given anything lower than AB.
No, but you're just. It's your attitude is really I
don't think I've. Ever given AD or an F?
No. So I think I did.
You did. For young gravy, I think.
But no, it wasn't young. Gravy.
It was one of the foe by foe by foe, which was still foe by foe
or foe. Yeah, but so, you know, I feel
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like I know it. I don't.
I don't. Absolutely hate any like really
any like. OK, I shouldn't say that.
I very much dislike slow mumble rap.
Not a fan of that. Not a huge like fan of some of
the slower songs. I don't like slower songs, but I
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wouldn't say I hate them. Like I wouldn't have to like
plug my ears if they were on. Would I skip them if they came
up in the playlist? Yes.
Would I turn the radio station off?
Yes, but it's not like, Oh my God, this is the worst thing
I've ever heard in my entire life.
Like, it's not like that, you know, Remember the it's.
Kind of like music appreciation for Logan.
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We're trying to get you to be able to appreciate more than
your 90s dance music. I Yes.
But that's what we're trying. To do and so I'm trying to get
to the. Root of what's your?
Problem. And part of it is you don't
listen to the lyrics. So that's, yeah, the lyrics.
OK. Anyway, B's not terrible.
That's not how I. Like to experience music but
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anyway OK. Stop in Nevada.
Coming up next, let's say what you think about.
This one this is. Are they we on a bus here?
We on a? Are we on a plane?
What's What are we on? We're on our feet, we're on a
horse. I don't know.
This is a, it's a travel oriented piece.
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She's hitting the road. I think it's a female on this
one. She's writing a story about a
lady. So let's see what you see what
you think. Stop In Nevada, we always.
Found it hard to take her a little Vegas.
Action. That's where she's stopping.
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Yeah. Yeah.
So like, I can't even. I don't like this one as much as
the previous song. Right.
I don't like Stop Nevada as muchas worse comes to worse.
Why that is? I'm having trouble verbalizing
today. It is slower.
Maybe. Yeah, it doesn't have a.
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Beat beat like whatever it's notas.
Grand, yeah, but. Remember though, this is an
album, right? So they're not all going to
like, I don't even think they write them all to be hits.
They don't want them to be hits because they have something
they're wanting to say, right? And so they're not expecting
them to be hits, right? And the people who are writing
songs wanting them to be hits, that's kind of music I don't
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want to listen to because that'sgoing to be like a boy band or a
this, I mean, stereotypical, butyou know what I'm saying?
They're going to be a poppy kindof thing, and I don't want that,
right? Yeah.
And I mean, but some of the artists, like who was it was
Cyndi Lauper? No, not Cyndi Lauper, Dolly
Parton. Writes.
Like an unbelievable amount of music.
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And I think we've talked about this before, but I, I think
you're right in that some of them aren't meant to be hits.
They're just trying to get out that musical voice and to have
that much musical creativity in their in their bones is very
impressive. And you know the.
Vast majority of Dolly Parton songs probably were never hits
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or probably weren't even recorded.
She probably has so many things just, you know, right?
So what about the? Stop in Nevada I.
Think we're going to go B minus again?
I wasn't something I absolutely hated.
That one I probably. Wouldn't even.
I probably would skip. It but I don't think I wasn't
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like, Oh my gosh, we need to I need to jump out of the moving
car when the song comes on, You know, I haven't.
I don't think I played. Any the only thing that I played
like that were some of the mistakes or some of the songs.
That I might be like, yeah. Yeah, this is not my favorite
song either. Yeah, but I don't, I don't mind.
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What would you give it? I'd probably give it AB.
OK, so if you. Give it AB and I'd give it AB
minus. I think my grade is especially
generous. Why don't why?
Why isn't it your favorite? We always talk about how I feel,
but you know you dislike things too.
It's not just me who's a hater all the time.
To me, I. To me, I can have AB, To me, I
can have AB without saying anything bad about it.
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You know what I'm saying? AB is just, I like it.
I don't love it an AI love and so to me I don't have to say
anything negative about AB. If I say had AC, I'd probably
have some negative things I would want to say about it.
I see. OK, but get it?
I see. I see.
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You've exhausted your button. Privileges.
The next one is if. I only had the words to tell
you, and that's about how I'm feeling right now.
This was a released. But I don't think it did very.
Well, it was a. Released what it was released.
It was a. Single I see.
But I don't think it did. Well, all right.
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Well, I'll be the judge of that here in the final curriculum if
I only. Had the words to tell you life
was on and on and tonight if youonly had the time to understand.
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Yeah, I. Understand, I understand that
that's another B minus. You just got right to.
It Yeah, I. Mean I, you know, no need to
build up for that, I would feel the same.
Way. It's not one of my favourites,
no. Probably.
Might be my least favorite song on the album.
I don't. Know I don't know what he's
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trying to do musically there like I don't know if he's trying
to be it it's not high energy, obviously, but it's not it's not
very slow. It's not like a slow, super
emotional song but but. If you, if you knew Billy Joel,
there are a lot of songs like that, right?
They're kind of just. In the middle like.
(37:29):
They're kind of just floating inspace of in between a couple
different categories. There's a lot of other stuff
going on. There he had an organ going in
the background. He did.
He. Yeah, he.
I just think he likes to do a lot of stuff.
They do a lot of stuff in the studio and then I'm sure it
translate well, translates well when you see him in concert and
I'm sure all. Like all of these, I bet would
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be great in concert, yeah. Well, maybe that that one.
Maybe that one? Well, it would certainly be
better than listening to it withheadphones on.
The problem with. Seeing someone like Billy Joel
is he's been around so long withso many hits, you're going to be
disappointed because he's not going to play something you
love. Yeah, I remember seeing Journey
and they didn't do loving touch and squeezing and I was like,
(38:11):
why did they do that? But they have so many hits that.
They just. Chose not to do it that day.
All right. Somewhere along the line is the
next to the last one they walked.
A lot. It's not like walking the line.
This is not walking. The line I know I'm.
I know somewhere along the line.But Donny Cash.
Walked the line so Billy Joel could run the line. 1 that I
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confused myself with that I can't do the wah.
Wah, again, I've reached my limit.
Yeah, No, I didn't. Yeah.
All right, hit it. All right, well, it's a rainy.
Night in Paris and I'm sitting by the same somewhere along the
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line. Where is that?
On the line. Somewhere along the line.
I feel like I'm always. Trying to tie it in, I feel like
we don't even need to down the road.
You know, again, it's it's. Just an It's an average.
I'd call that average, right? Because you're not even
listening. To the words so but that's OK,
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but that. That is a constant grading
measure, right? Like if you're a teacher.
For example. You are a graphic designer.
Yes, I am. And you don't like?
What was the colour we were talking about last week?
Mauve. You don't like mauve?
Mauve. You're on a mauve.
I don't say it like that. But I just say on a mauve man.
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So if someone. Creates some sort of graphic.
Beautiful graphic. Looks really good, yes.
And you use. Mauve.
You're not going to like it because you don't like mauve.
No, there's. Plenty of things that I would
like to have mauve in it. OK, that was a bad.
Example. But I, I just, it's just what
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I'm telling you is. There, it's just like, I don't
know, why don't you just listen to classical music then, with no
words? I do.
The words yeah. But the words don't mean
anything to you. The words don't make a
difference to you, which is justweird for me.
Yeah, it's just weird because I like when I listen to a song, I
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like the music, music of it, musicality.
I like to hear the voice, like do they have a good voice?
And then I like to listen to thelyrics.
Now there are songs like we've talked about Umbrella by
Rihanna. The lyrics are not really that
important. It's, you know, we are family.
Hey, hey, hey, hey. I got all my sisters and me.
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Not the most important lyrics inthe world.
You're just having fun. But for most?
Albums. That.
They are writing these to try totell a story and you're not even
typically. Listening to that.
Which is just you're missed. To me you're missing one of the
components, but I think. Even even for Broadway musicals,
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a lot of times I can't, first ofall, understand what they're
saying, right? Second of time.
Second of all, to me, it's not as important.
It's advancing the story, yes, but like if they were just
focused on advancing the story, then they wouldn't be singing
the song. No, because Les.
Mis does Les Mis has no talking.It is all singing.
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So does Hamilton. Hamilton, it's all singing.
So they are telling you the story through song, right?
So. Either way, somewhere.
Along the line, did I give that a great?
Yeah, you did not. No.
A or a minus? I think so.
We'll just we'll go B. You're just getting.
Tired. You're getting tired of saying
the word minus. Captain Well, if we're reserving
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the minus for this song, stop it.
This. Is my favorite song on the
album. I told you that moving forward
before you even listen to this. There's four parts to.
This before you say another word, I won't.
We're going to listen to this again, and then I want your
grade because I think here in the second time might do
something for you. Hit it all right.
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Let's take a. Listen Saturday.
Night and you're still hanging around.
Take. It to your special island they
just found your father. In the swimming.
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Pool. It's definitely.
Building. Oh yeah, it.
Built. It's like building a.
House and. Then you get to the top.
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Of the house and you paint it neon orange.
Why would you do that? I don't know.
I thought you're going to say you.
Fall off. Are you talking about this?
You want to talk about listeningto the lyrics?
They found their. Dad in the pool, Yeah.
And then they didn't go back to school.
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Right, because he's. Now he's going to be the
breadwinner. He's going to have to make the
money and his life. I mean, it's just, it's just
this song about this guy who's struggling and I don't know if
Captain Jack's Jack Daniels and he's he's using drugs and stuff
to just to get by. I I What is that?
Guy who's on the peanut butter Crunch box.
That's what I thought. Captain Crunch.
(43:45):
Oh yeah, Captain Crunch. Yeah.
Why? Did you think Captain Jack is
Captain Crunch? I don't know.
I just that was I thought you'd do like Jack.
Sparrow or something Captain, I just heard.
Captain Crunch. He was Captain Jack Sparrow.
Yeah, Yeah. Why didn't you?
Think of him. Why did you think of Captain
Crunch? Mostly because I'm.
Really hungry? Did you notice at lunchtime you
didn't eat? See.
(44:06):
Not today, no. We've.
Already decided? That's another reason you're
being a little crabby little. You know what?
What's the little bleep word? Because I feel like I need to
cuss. Sorry, that was the wrong
button. I don't know.
All right, there we go. No, I won't cuss.
I don't know. Anyway.
Logan, that's an A plus for me and and I'm not kidding when I
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say that that's just the most inin you.
But if you would have to listen to the words, it's just very.
Moving in my. Opinion.
But you since without the words,without words, what do you give
it? Because I know you don't listen
to them, I think. Hearing it the second.
Time did help. I think I was just that was the
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last one I needed to listen to. I listened to it on the way to
work and you were rushed. And you probably got in a rushed
and the dog probably on the carpet and cold.
And cold sitting in traffic behind 2 semi trucks which is my
least favorite thing to do. I think I'd give that AB plus.
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OK, slightly above. Average.
It's and I'm just telling you right now, it's way more than
that, but that's OK. If we can get AB plus out of
you, let's just count our blessings.
I. Think you need to just relax
with your grading? Count our blessings.
Yeah, you're going to take what?You can get and you're going to
like it. So this will be all so excessive
(45:31):
anyway. All right, so.
We got AB plus B -, A minus BB minus B minus BB plus yeah.
I think overall for Billy Joel'sPiano Man, I didn't like it as
much as I thought I was going to.
I think I really set my expectations when it comes to
Billy Joel music. But for.
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The overall grade. I think we'll go solid.
B OK, solid. B I'm.
Definitely going to give you AB minus.
But it is what? It is.
But here's the thing though, I know Dang well, you know you
love Piano Man the song because you've heard it and you're so
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familiar with it and everybody likes it and so you listen to
it. If if I had just played you this
album. For the first time ever.
And you never had heard it. I know you would not have liked
Piano Man. You just wouldn't have.
Because it's not. But I.
Also think to back to my point earlier that there's a reason
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that some songs become more popular than others and that's
just population general consensus, right?
Because sometimes artists and I've seen it, artists will think
that as one song will do really well and it ends up being a
different song, right? So I mean, I don't know what
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that reason is why some people like are a lot of people like
Piano Man and maybe I just fall into that as a average listening
or a music listener, but you know, I.
I liked it. I.
Like it I know you like because you.
Know it well, but and I you're right, the every some songs
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resonate for whatever reason. It it has to do with timing when
it's released, what's going on. But some albums stand the test
of time, and this is one of them.
This is one that. People will, if you say, oh,
piano man, people who are old, obviously you're not your age.
You're not going to go, Oh yeah,I love the piano man.
I'm sure there are some. But people my age will say,
(47:38):
yeah, that was a good album. Fair enough.
You know, because. It's got a lot of, yeah, it's
got a lot of different parts of it.
I what I don't like is when everything sounds the same and
this is not that way because it's so different, right?
So Logan. OK, we got two more episodes.
I don't know what the next one'sgoing to be yet.
I I was going to do another whole album, but I think this
(47:58):
was a fiasco, so we're going to have to do something else.
And then the last Speaking of Fiasco's episode 20 is going to
be your pick, Logan. 'S version #2 so we'll see.
Because Logan's version. Number one did so well and I
will say that looking at the rankings of the episodes,
Logan's version is pretty high up there on I don't, I couldn't
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tell you what number it is, but it's definitely top five of the
18 episodes that we've done so far.
So probably because you just keep.
Relisting to it because you, I mean you like. 4 by 4.
I cannot confirm nor deny that. All right, Jim, it's fun.
As always. Thank you for another great
episode, and looking forward to a couple more awesome ones
(48:45):
before the end of season 1. I know we're so sad here.
Wait. But.
Hopefully, we'll be renewed for season #2 hopefully and
otherwise. Until then, make sure you follow
us on social media, on Facebook and Instagram.
At The Vinyl Curriculum, you cansee our beautiful faces on a
(49:07):
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talk about. You'll want to see it there.
That's right. At the vinyl.
Curriculum. Jim, thank you again.
And we'll catch you all on the next one.
Bye.
Every record tells a story. Independent labels.
I think a lot of interesting songs came out of that.
And every generation has a soundtrack.
The only hip you have in your body is made of titanium.
This is the final curriculum with Logan.
Apparently I don't know very much about anything.
Somebody calls her Tay Tay. Welcome back, ladies and
(00:25):
gentlemen, to another episode ofthe Vinyl Curriculum.
Logan and Jim here, recording live in the podcast studio
today. Jim, how's it going?
Good, really good Again. Yes, of course we're live.
Why do you say recording live? Of course we're live.
Because the people need to know that there is.
(00:45):
We're not faking this. How would you fake it?
You'd be dead and somebody would.
What? You, of course you're going to
record it live. Well, I mean, you know, some
people don't, some people had, there's multiple takes for
things we don't, we don't do, wedon't play that game here as
people who have listened probably.
Can tell we are the. Utmost professionals in this
(01:08):
broadcast setting so. Yeah, Logan, we're doing
something for the second time now.
Last remember last week we did an entire album.
I think it went well. You.
Yeah. You gave it decent grades, so I
gave you an opportunity. I just want to put it out there
to the audience. I gave you an opportunity.
(01:29):
I gave you 3 classic albums and I said which one of these do you
want to do? One of the options was Fleetwood
Mac's Rumors. One of the options was the
Eagles Hotel California. The third option was Billy
Joel's The Piano Man. Which one did you choose?
I chose the piano man. Yes, you did.
Yes, I did. So if you don't like this, it's
(01:51):
on you buddy. First of all, no, no, I don't
think that's the case. But I think out of those three
options, the one that I thought,thought past tense, thought that
I would like the best was Piano Man.
Because I've always considered myself a pretty big, big Billy
(02:11):
Joel fan, you know, thought about because, well, he's not
doing the residency at Madison Square Garden anymore, but I
thought about multiple times going just to see that.
Why? What makes you a fan?
I don't know, I just like, I think I just like Piano Man, the
song, and we're listening to this album and we'll get into
(02:33):
this as well throughout the course of the episode.
But I realized why certain songsare more popular than others and
why people sometimes, you know, like people will only know one
song from the album or like the radio stations will only play
one song from the album. I know, I know now why that is
(02:55):
the case Because based on the 2 full albums that we've listened
to, you know, I think out of those me, there's maybe 3 songs
that I would add to a playlist and I think those are the three
songs that would be played on the radio so.
Well, OK, we'll, we'll just takeit one step at a time because I
(03:16):
think you probably half listenedto it.
So as we listen to it a second time for this recording, I don't
understand why you don't think you might, you might go a little
bit higher. You've already said before in
the past that sometimes hearing it a second time helps.
So we're going to see what you what you start off now.
The first one is called First ofall, this is 1973.
This was Billy Joel's second album.
And what's interesting, we, Karen and I watched this
(03:37):
documentary called and so it goes.
I think it was on HBO, two-part very long, like an hour or
something each fascinating though.
So I would suggest you, if you think you like him, watch it.
But his first album, you know, he was, he and his buddies would
travel and do all the live showsand everything.
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He finally got a contract. Someone was producing it and
when he heard it, they had speedup the entire thing.
Like you know how they hit instead of being 100% speed, it
was the whole thing is so it wasruined.
He hated it. He was ticked, he sued the they
were trying to get out of a contract with this guy because
(04:20):
this guy had just ruined it. And so while he was waiting to
get out of that contract for thefirst album, he got a gig as a
piano man in a bar with a fake. He had a fake name and you know,
he would just making money and his, you know, wrote some of
(04:41):
these songs, some of the songs were old.
And then when he finally got hissecond album, they kind of got
they had to pay some money. They got out of that contract,
got a new contract, did this album.
So this was kind of the first album that he was happy with and
it was also the first album to give him a hit.
So I know you're going to love it because there was, there's a
(05:02):
lot of motion in that story. Yeah, yeah.
But I would like to point out too that I'm only used to Billy
Joel without having any hair, and so this album cover is a
little frightening like this. This is nightmare inducing.
Well, Halloween is coming up. Yeah.
And that wow, that is the eyes. The eyes have a little color in
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there, I think a little bit of well, something, something in
there. Well, just remember that our
audience can't see that, so let's move on.
We. Want to inspire them to go and
look up the album and listen to it?
Yes, it's because Jim has the playlist available on our web
page, Final curriculum.carrd.co and that's where all the
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playlists are available there and also links to the Apple
Music, to Spotify, all of that fun stuff where the podcasts
available and the playlist. So with that being said, song
#1, we've got 10 Humdingers to get through today.
What is song #1? It's the travel and prayer.
The travel and prayer. OK, And we've got three
(06:08):
different parts of this song I want to listen to because
there's a lot of these are kind of like the meatloaf one last
time. Different stages have different
sounds, different instrumentations.
If you don't like some of these songs, you have to at least
appreciate the piano, playing the fiddle, playing the
(06:29):
harmonic. I mean everything.
Very talented. Yeah, I never said he wasn't
talented. I just said that a lot of these
songs sound similar. Similar.
Oh no, Is that what you're goingto go against?
Is similar. Well, let's look at the first
one, and we'll have this argument later.
This is travel and prayer right here on the vinyl curriculum.
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Hey I'll take a look on around and I define where my baby is
going to be. Yikes.
(07:18):
I'm going to tell you something right now.
If you say something tacky, I might throw something at you
because that is great music. Is that what it is?
Yeah. The the fiddle is a little off
putting from Billy Joel. It's different.
(07:39):
I don't know, in the mouth. The mouth harp is is that's
that's what you I guess that's what you call yeehaw country,
right? I guess, but it just you know,
this think about this, this is how many 50 years ago?
So it's going to be, you know, but it's anyway.
OK, let's go. What?
What are you giving? Boing, boing, Boing.
(07:59):
We're going to start off with a solid B.
OK. Solid B, The mouth harp.
The mouth harp brought it back for me.
It's it's good. I mean it, you know it's a good
first song of the album, right? Kind of set the tone and then to
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go right in the piano man is a interesting choice as well.
Remember how we talked about howthey build you up and then they
bring you down, They build you up and they bring you down?
That's what happens. Like you're riding on a roller
coaster. Yes, but when you just have your
one little playlist of Taylor Swift songs, they're all going
to be very similar. Don't hate on Tay Tay.
I told you, you're going to, you're going to really attract
some enemies doing that. I know it this was a single that
(08:44):
they released. For travel and prayer.
Yeah, it peaked at 77. He actually wrote this in like
late 7172. So this is when he had, you
know, recorded and I'm sure he played a million times and all
that kind of stuff. So anyway.
Love it, but how do they decide which ones were singles?
Then they just like, oh, this one's pretty good.
(09:06):
This one's going to be a single kind of thing.
Or like, who are they doing? Some sort of test audience or
what's going on here? I don't.
Think the artists, a lot of, I don't know this because I'm not
in music industry, but I think I've seen enough.
I think they even mentioned it in his documentary that
sometimes they won't release this one and they're like, no,
we're going to release this one.So I think they, I don't know
(09:27):
how much. Who decides what's going on?
Especially if this is one of your first albums, you're not
going to have a lot of clout. It's just some business suit in
a room somewhere making that decision so.
Remember in Bohemian Rhapsody they were talking about, oh, you
can't do that, and they're like Myers.
So yeah, I don't know. I love that song.
You give it ABI, give it an A. Big talking.
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No, that's good. Now, some of these I don't.
Some of these I don't care for. I'm going to be very honest.
Yeah, well, there's some I don'tcare for either, but this next
one I do care for a lot, actually.
Song called Piano Man, Yeah. That was my.
Nickname Nickname in high school, piano man was.
Not I thought you were white. What'd you say?
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Marshmallow? What'd you say?
Big Milk, DJ Big Milk. That's my DJ name actually.
But Piano Man was is a great song and I think we just take a
listen. I already know what my grade is
going to be, so I to be honest when I said I listened to the
album, didn't listen to this song.
But we've already heard this song.
I could probably sing almost every word of this song.
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OK, then you every grade you give me, I'm going to add half a
grade because you know what? You're not listening to the
whole Billy Joel is trying to tell you.
In an order in the order. Story and he's trying to set the
mood and so if you're not going along with his thought process,
then we're not going to give you're not being a valid grade
giver. Yeah, OK, what again?
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Let's take a listen to Piano Man.
It's. 9:00 on a Saturday. Regular crowd shuffles in.
Well, we're all in the mood for a melody.
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And Jim, I'm feeling pretty all right with this song.
I'm not feeling all right. I'm a little wound up.
I could tell like. I'm ready to fight, I'm tired.
I had a long weekend. By the way, I went and saw a
concert on Thursday night and I saw Ninko case at the salt shed
inside. First time I've ever I saw, I've
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seen a concert inside the salt shed.
I was not in. I was way in the back in the
Bleacher kind of areas and they did.
She didn't have a screen up. So it was.
I didn't. I was not you.
Just saw us back on the. Screen airline tray with my son
went to one last night and he sent me a vote and they had two
big springs up for them. So whoever it was, well.
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So I'm a little disappointed in that, but I did love the music
and I do love that place. Salt Shed.
Well, it's not. It's not Madison Square Garden
where our friend Billy Joel was has a residency or had a he's
done with the residency now, right.
I think but that he had like oneof the longest running 10 years
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at Madison Square Garden, the longest residency.
I believe so. But Billy Joel's Piano Man,
probably the most famous song byBilly Joel, right That's.
Definitely what kicked it out for him.
His This is obviously my favorite Billy Joel song, so
it's got to be an A. It's the only one, you know.
That's what I'm saying. Why would you want to go see him
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just because this song? You don't know any of his other
stuff? Name me four other Billy Joel
songs without looking at something.
You're looking at something. What's the the wine song?
Bottle of red, bottle of white or something?
OK, scenes in an Italian restaurant.
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That's the same one. Oh, that's the same song.
Nice try. Yeah.
Yeah. You don't know Allentown.
You don't know any of this stuff.
OK, Our point was proven. OK, So you gave it an A?
That's great. I used to give it an A I'd
probably give it AAB now becauseI'm kind of why?
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Because I like it so overplayed.Is that the case?
Yeah, So, yeah, but that was definitely the one that got him
going. I don't think it made number
one, though. I think it was top 25.
But I think this is one of thosealbums that over time has just
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maintained like, you know, sometimes people do it and then
you don't ever hear from again. This people still listen to this
album, I think because it's got some classic songs on it.
Yeah, but yeah, 25 is how God and everybody sings along to it.
You know, it's one of those things and this emotional, this
emotional song when you you know, he's and it.
I don't think they were true people, but he said they were
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based off of people he met at when he was doing.
This. You're talking about Jonathan
Barr, who's a friend of mine? Yeah.
Gave me my drinks for free. Yes.
I see. That kind of thing.
So it was like he, you know, he was taking some.
Real life inspiration and inserting it into his music,
making millions of dollars and I'm sure not giving these people
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a dime so. Right, because they weren't real
people, so it's OK. Fair enough.
Now the next. The next one ain't the Speaking
of crimes, this was called Ain'tno crime was not a single more
of a poppy rocky kind of thing. Like more.
Poppy, Rocky. Kind of just listen, I mean.
Say what you think, all right. Ain't No Crime by Billy Joel Are
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your eyes open, Jim? They look like they want to be
closed. They're open.
They want to be taking a nap or something.
No, not yet. That's around 2:00-ish.
This has a the classic Billy Joel sound.
What is that by the way? I mean, it's the piano, it's him
singing, obviously, but he's also got like the the organ in
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there, which I think is present in some of his songs.
And I don't know, just to me gives that kind of fundamental
Billy Joel sound like music sound, I guess.
But that's that's one that's like a bigger that that is a
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remember we talked about like the grand songs.
That's one of the more grandiosesongs I would think just, I
don't know, just I think the organ makes that gives that vibe
like a big I I see like a big church choir or something like
like not singing with him. But that's kind of what comes to
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mind when I picture what I'd be singing on stage.
OK. Are you done?
Yeah, I am. I'm waiting on a grade.
I think B plus. OK.
I think B plus. I'm probably going to give it AB
minus. I don't care for that song as
much. Yeah.
It's one of those things, I think if I saw him in concert,
which I, by the way, I wish I had but I never did.
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But if I saw him in concert, I'msure I would love it because I'm
sure he's he's an entertainer and he's going to the way he
plays the piano. And I'm sure I would love it be
Singing Alive. Yeah.
But just to listen to it, it's like, OK, it's the B tier song.
Not as much. Now this next one is one of my
favorites and it was the B side.Let me double check.
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It was the B side of Piano Man, you know What does that mean to
you it? Was on the.
Backside, Yeah. So when the single was released
of The Piano Man, it was the flip side of it.
Yeah, so it was nice. That's where the Bad Songs goes
on the B side. Yeah, but sometimes there, there
are times where both sides have charted which I don't quite
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understand how they how can you both chart because it's the only
buy one. It must be with record play.
I mean, with radio play, probably, yeah.
They throw in the rate the people requesting on the radio.
And that's probably it goes backto some suit in a in a boardroom
somewhere deciding this song should go on the back.
You know, I can't imagine that'sthe artist who I mean, I get
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maybe like a now Billy Joel could.
But yeah, obviously we're not, we don't have AB sides anymore.
But I would think back then, especially just starting out, I
would again think that someone just made that decision for him
based on what that person, some record executive, liked.
And yeah, obviously sometimes the people have different
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opinions, so. This was called You're My Home
and it's going to be slow, so just get ready for it, yeah.
That's how I feel already. It would take an emotion and you
know, I was going to look this weekend.
I didn't do it. I was going to look for what are
people who have no emotion, whatkind of person are they?
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And I'm sure serial killer wouldcome up so.
I'm pretty sure sociopath. Sociopath.
I don't know. There's got.
Hopefully there's other things, as I hope you're not those, but
something ain't right when you can't have an emotion.
It's it's a condition called Alexithyma thymia.
OK. Alexithymia, which translates to
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no words for emotions. Wow.
Alexithymia, also called emotional blindness, is a
neuropsychology, A neuropsychological phenomenon.
You're emotionally blind. I think that's very.
Characterized by significant challenges in recognizing,
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sourcing, and describing one's emotions by the bank.
It's not that you can't describeyour emotions because you can
clearly say what you feel. It's just you can't.
You don't. You're not drawn to the emotion
part of it. I don't know, I think sociopath
is probably the right one anyway.
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I like this better. Alexithymia, I'm gonna do some
more research while we listen tothis song.
You're my home. Why don't instead?
Let's focus on the lyrics and try to work up a tear.
You're my home. When you look.
Into. My eyes and you see the crazy
gypsy in my soul. Home can be.
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The Pennsylvania Turnpike. You're my.
Home. Thanks, Logan.
No. No.
What? No, Logan.
If that's not an A+ or a high AI, don't know what he is.
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How about? AB minus OK.
Now you're just. That's just pissing me.
Off, and I'm not even going to lie about it.
That's just being. Rude.
No, it's not. I mean that.
What do you like about that? Song, I want you to Let's talk
about it. I just don't.
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Again, it goes back to I can't visit.
What am I going to listen to this song?
What? What is?
What is Billy Joel talking about?
I don't. Know that's the problem.
That is the problem, yeah. He's talking to.
His love and saying you're my home.
I don't care where I am. I don't care what we're doing.
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I don't care how bad we've got it.
If I'm with you, I'm home. I just.
Almost start crying. Talking about just what I just
said. What?
Here's why would that not. Even resonate with you in some
small way. Here's the question.
Yeah, what are they singing about in Bohemian Rhapsody?
It's just craziness. OK.
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But that's not an. Emotional song.
This is emotional. They they slow it down so you
can understand the lyrics and they're trying to, he's trying
to, you know, give you some. Oh.
Golly, poor Nicole. I mean, this fiance of yours is
just setting herself up for justa lifetime of.
Unhappiness, I know. Misery, I know.
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It's. It's a work.
We're working on it. Well, first thing.
To work on is listen to lyrics songs and see if you might like
can you read lyrics? Can you read like if I were to
give you the lyrics? Can I?
Give you the. Lyrics and you read them.
Would that help? Could you?
If you read a book, can you get like attached to a book if you
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read it or you don't read? I listen.
To the books so, but I don't buythat.
Because you're not paying attention I when I'm.
Listening to a book, I am. But when I'm listening to a
song, I'm listening to the experience of the song.
I'm listening to the musicality of it, how it sounds, not
necessarily what they're saying.Well, that sounds wonderful.
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What are your? Why is it AB minus then?
Because it's just, it's not something that I would listen
to. Oh my God.
OK, Logan, let's move on Sometimes.
Sometimes stroke out over. Here with my blood pressure,
it's let's just move on sometimes.
I I feel it important to say this.
Sometimes I you can't even verbalize.
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Why I don't? Like a song like that, like
it's, I can't even put it into words.
Like it just isn't doesn't appeal to because I understand.
Why it doesn't appeal to you? Because you if you literally
aren't listening to the words, then why would it appeal to you?
How come you could listen to thefact that the girl got in the
foe by foe with red dirt on her flip flops?
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You, you know, you're OK with that, which was terrible lyrics,
but you can't listen to this manopening his heart up.
But again, it's I. Wasn't I'm not listening to what
the lyrics I'm not analyzing. It's not a book.
I'm not doing a book report on the music I'm or the the
contents of the lyrics I'm turning.
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My head, I see you. I see.
All right, we're going to move on to.
The Ballad of Billy the Kid. I'm very disappointed.
Disappointed in you right now. OK, you don't have to listen.
Well, he's telling the story. I don't know if you want to
listen to it or not. He's telling the story in this
one about Billy the Kid. All right.
I remember and there's listen toit.
Three, there's three parts to this because again, it's
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different segments and differentsounds.
Well, let's listen to all three.Jim, you need to go like drink
some waters. No, you just.
Need to be a clue is what you need to do all right.
Well, Billy the Kid, the vinyl curriculum.
Let's take a listen. From a town.
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Known as Wheeling WV never travel heavy yes he always roll
alone and he soon couldn't many all regardless.
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That is a good point you. Made a good point while we were
listening to that, that that very well could be a Broadway
song. Yeah.
Are you done being disappointed now?
No, I'm still. Upset I'm just wondering if I'm
going to stroke out or if my blood pressure will go down a
little bit Because you're fixed to give it a decent grade.
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I mean, I that was one of the better ones on the album.
Higher energy not a great start like you were doing
demonstrating your horse riding ability there, but did was he
set the. Stage, I think he was set, the
stage that you're out West, That's what he was doing.
He's telling you a story. Yeah.
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And he didn't say. On this next song, we're going
to be out West in the wild. Wild West.
He was able to tell you that just from the opening sounds.
See how that's talent? I'm given an A minus.
Though, Wow, OK. My blood pressure is back to
normal. My watch isn't warning me.
I'm given an. A minus.
I think that again, gave me grandiose Broadway stage vibes
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for the majority of that song. Like Big Show kind of thing was
that that wasn't part of a musical or anything.
That was just. No, that's just.
One of his songs it was AB song AB side to another song later
on. If I only had the.
Words but the B side to a single.
You're talking about interesting, so they didn't
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release it. Although it says in the UK they
released it so. What they they just put out one
song on one side of the record. Like for the sink when.
You put out a single, yeah, but then you always.
Have a back you have AB side. Was that on like a 40?
Five then, because it didn't need to be as yeah, it was a 45.
So they'd have an album, you could buy the album, but they
would release the single and that's what they would play on
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the radio, yes. And that's that's.
What would get people interestedin the album?
Because if you didn't know they had an album out, there were no,
there was no Internet, so you would hear.
If you heard a song on the radio, that's the only way you
would really know. You're telling me there was?
No Apple Music back in. There was none.
There was none, so you just had to.
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Go and down your local St. Corners sock hop and you know,
Sokka bounce. No, that was over into the
jukebox. No, you know we did.
Do nickels in there. We would look.
At you'd always the charts were a big thing, like you'd look at
the charts Billboard top 100 andyou'd see what's going up or
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down at least especially when I was in my, you know, now is that
on a. Billboard.
Is that why they call it Billboard Top 100?
Album. I mean, it was a magazine,
Billboard magazine, but it was just that.
They didn't actually have a billboard where they put this is
the Best Song. Maybe they did.
I don't know, never saw it in Tupelo, Ms. Fair enough.
Well, this one's not in Mississippi.
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This next one, this one's not stopping in Nevada.
Or stop in Nevada I guess it's called.
No, I think it's not. Oh yeah, I skip.
One look at that, worst comes toworst.
Which is you're the worst today?I know, I think.
We're both tired. This is not.
I'm not tired. I'm.
Angry now because I'm wide awake.
I couldn't go take a nap now if I wanted to, OK.
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Worst comes to worst, what do anything special about this one
before we listen to it? No it.
It did peak at 80. It was a single.
And like I said, that other one was no, that was not.
That's not true. Well, ballad Billy.
Kidd was on the back of. If only had the words.
I don't know what was on the back of this one, The Ballad I.
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Also, the other thing I want to say about The Ballad of Billy
Kidd just makes me think of The Ballad of Ricky Bobby.
Yeah. And that's that is a high
quality movie. John C Reilly.
Yeah. Will Ferrell.
Yes, it's right. Up your alley it is.
Yeah. If only they sang some of these
songs, you might like them. But this is another one.
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Of the rocky poppy ones, all right.
Worst. Comes to worst and then another
impartial grade here on the vinyl curriculum today.
I'm living like a rich man's son.
Tomorrow morning I could be a bomb.
I'll get along. I don't know.
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Were those steel dryers I. Know I was just going to.
Ask you that was that steel drums?
I didn't like it. They were.
And it also that that I don't know what that guitar move is,
if that's like slapping, if that's what that's called when
we did the funky. 70s there was the the Bootsy or whatever I
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think was the first guy to do that, yeah.
What year was this? This was in the 80s.
No, no, this is the. 70s I was going to say this.
Has that is the 70s sound? I was trying to think of when
that sound was popular when I was listening to it in the car,
early 70s. I think is when the funky stuff
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started, when they were slappingit.
This was 7774, but then the incorporation.
Of the steel drums, yeah. I don't know.
Is different. He's from New York.
Maybe there was, you know, I mean, I don't know.
Is. That a big place.
For you might have St. vendors or you might have an area where
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you have some immigrants, you know there they were playing, I
don't know. Yeah, but by this time he had.
Moved to California so I don't know maybe it was got he thought
heard it there I think we'd. Just go solid B for that.
Didn't I kind of felt indifferent about it, you know,
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Didn't hate it. I thought it was OK, thought it
was good OK, not above average. It had a beat average.
It had a beat, so that's. Going to always, if it's got a
beat, you're going to have a little bit of a higher grade.
I would also like to. Say, I would also like to say
that you're giving me all this slack.
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Yeah, I haven't given anything lower than AB.
No, but you're just. It's your attitude is really I
don't think I've. Ever given AD or an F?
No. So I think I did.
You did. For young gravy, I think.
But no, it wasn't young. Gravy.
It was one of the foe by foe by foe, which was still foe by foe
or foe. Yeah, but so, you know, I feel
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like I know it. I don't.
I don't. Absolutely hate any like really
any like. OK, I shouldn't say that.
I very much dislike slow mumble rap.
Not a fan of that. Not a huge like fan of some of
the slower songs. I don't like slower songs, but I
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wouldn't say I hate them. Like I wouldn't have to like
plug my ears if they were on. Would I skip them if they came
up in the playlist? Yes.
Would I turn the radio station off?
Yes, but it's not like, Oh my God, this is the worst thing
I've ever heard in my entire life.
Like, it's not like that, you know, Remember the it's.
Kind of like music appreciation for Logan.
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We're trying to get you to be able to appreciate more than
your 90s dance music. I Yes.
But that's what we're trying. To do and so I'm trying to get
to the. Root of what's your?
Problem. And part of it is you don't
listen to the lyrics. So that's, yeah, the lyrics.
OK. Anyway, B's not terrible.
That's not how I. Like to experience music but
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anyway OK. Stop in Nevada.
Coming up next, let's say what you think about.
This one this is. Are they we on a bus here?
We on a? Are we on a plane?
What's What are we on? We're on our feet, we're on a
horse. I don't know.
This is a, it's a travel oriented piece.
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She's hitting the road. I think it's a female on this
one. She's writing a story about a
lady. So let's see what you see what
you think. Stop In Nevada, we always.
Found it hard to take her a little Vegas.
Action. That's where she's stopping.
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Yeah. Yeah.
So like, I can't even. I don't like this one as much as
the previous song. Right.
I don't like Stop Nevada as muchas worse comes to worse.
Why that is? I'm having trouble verbalizing
today. It is slower.
Maybe. Yeah, it doesn't have a.
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Beat beat like whatever it's notas.
Grand, yeah, but. Remember though, this is an
album, right? So they're not all going to
like, I don't even think they write them all to be hits.
They don't want them to be hits because they have something
they're wanting to say, right? And so they're not expecting
them to be hits, right? And the people who are writing
songs wanting them to be hits, that's kind of music I don't
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want to listen to because that'sgoing to be like a boy band or a
this, I mean, stereotypical, butyou know what I'm saying?
They're going to be a poppy kindof thing, and I don't want that,
right? Yeah.
And I mean, but some of the artists, like who was it was
Cyndi Lauper? No, not Cyndi Lauper, Dolly
Parton. Writes.
Like an unbelievable amount of music.
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And I think we've talked about this before, but I, I think
you're right in that some of them aren't meant to be hits.
They're just trying to get out that musical voice and to have
that much musical creativity in their in their bones is very
impressive. And you know the.
Vast majority of Dolly Parton songs probably were never hits
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or probably weren't even recorded.
She probably has so many things just, you know, right?
So what about the? Stop in Nevada I.
Think we're going to go B minus again?
I wasn't something I absolutely hated.
That one I probably. Wouldn't even.
I probably would skip. It but I don't think I wasn't
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like, Oh my gosh, we need to I need to jump out of the moving
car when the song comes on, You know, I haven't.
I don't think I played. Any the only thing that I played
like that were some of the mistakes or some of the songs.
That I might be like, yeah. Yeah, this is not my favorite
song either. Yeah, but I don't, I don't mind.
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What would you give it? I'd probably give it AB.
OK, so if you. Give it AB and I'd give it AB
minus. I think my grade is especially
generous. Why don't why?
Why isn't it your favorite? We always talk about how I feel,
but you know you dislike things too.
It's not just me who's a hater all the time.
To me, I. To me, I can have AB, To me, I
can have AB without saying anything bad about it.
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You know what I'm saying? AB is just, I like it.
I don't love it an AI love and so to me I don't have to say
anything negative about AB. If I say had AC, I'd probably
have some negative things I would want to say about it.
I see. OK, but get it?
I see. I see.
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You've exhausted your button. Privileges.
The next one is if. I only had the words to tell
you, and that's about how I'm feeling right now.
This was a released. But I don't think it did very.
Well, it was a. Released what it was released.
It was a. Single I see.
But I don't think it did. Well, all right.
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Well, I'll be the judge of that here in the final curriculum if
I only. Had the words to tell you life
was on and on and tonight if youonly had the time to understand.
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Yeah, I. Understand, I understand that
that's another B minus. You just got right to.
It Yeah, I. Mean I, you know, no need to
build up for that, I would feel the same.
Way. It's not one of my favourites,
no. Probably.
Might be my least favorite song on the album.
I don't. Know I don't know what he's
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trying to do musically there like I don't know if he's trying
to be it it's not high energy, obviously, but it's not it's not
very slow. It's not like a slow, super
emotional song but but. If you, if you knew Billy Joel,
there are a lot of songs like that, right?
They're kind of just. In the middle like.
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They're kind of just floating inspace of in between a couple
different categories. There's a lot of other stuff
going on. There he had an organ going in
the background. He did.
He. Yeah, he.
I just think he likes to do a lot of stuff.
They do a lot of stuff in the studio and then I'm sure it
translate well, translates well when you see him in concert and
I'm sure all. Like all of these, I bet would
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be great in concert, yeah. Well, maybe that that one.
Maybe that one? Well, it would certainly be
better than listening to it withheadphones on.
The problem with. Seeing someone like Billy Joel
is he's been around so long withso many hits, you're going to be
disappointed because he's not going to play something you
love. Yeah, I remember seeing Journey
and they didn't do loving touch and squeezing and I was like,
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why did they do that? But they have so many hits that.
They just. Chose not to do it that day.
All right. Somewhere along the line is the
next to the last one they walked.
A lot. It's not like walking the line.
This is not walking. The line I know I'm.
I know somewhere along the line.But Donny Cash.
Walked the line so Billy Joel could run the line. 1 that I
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confused myself with that I can't do the wah.
Wah, again, I've reached my limit.
Yeah, No, I didn't. Yeah.
All right, hit it. All right, well, it's a rainy.
Night in Paris and I'm sitting by the same somewhere along the
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line. Where is that?
On the line. Somewhere along the line.
I feel like I'm always. Trying to tie it in, I feel like
we don't even need to down the road.
You know, again, it's it's. Just an It's an average.
I'd call that average, right? Because you're not even
listening. To the words so but that's OK,
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but that. That is a constant grading
measure, right? Like if you're a teacher.
For example. You are a graphic designer.
Yes, I am. And you don't like?
What was the colour we were talking about last week?
Mauve. You don't like mauve?
Mauve. You're on a mauve.
I don't say it like that. But I just say on a mauve man.
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So if someone. Creates some sort of graphic.
Beautiful graphic. Looks really good, yes.
And you use. Mauve.
You're not going to like it because you don't like mauve.
No, there's. Plenty of things that I would
like to have mauve in it. OK, that was a bad.
Example. But I, I just, it's just what
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I'm telling you is. There, it's just like, I don't
know, why don't you just listen to classical music then, with no
words? I do.
The words yeah. But the words don't mean
anything to you. The words don't make a
difference to you, which is justweird for me.
Yeah, it's just weird because I like when I listen to a song, I
(40:24):
like the music, music of it, musicality.
I like to hear the voice, like do they have a good voice?
And then I like to listen to thelyrics.
Now there are songs like we've talked about Umbrella by
Rihanna. The lyrics are not really that
important. It's, you know, we are family.
Hey, hey, hey, hey. I got all my sisters and me.
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Not the most important lyrics inthe world.
You're just having fun. But for most?
Albums. That.
They are writing these to try totell a story and you're not even
typically. Listening to that.
Which is just you're missed. To me you're missing one of the
components, but I think. Even even for Broadway musicals,
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a lot of times I can't, first ofall, understand what they're
saying, right? Second of time.
Second of all, to me, it's not as important.
It's advancing the story, yes, but like if they were just
focused on advancing the story, then they wouldn't be singing
the song. No, because Les.
Mis does Les Mis has no talking.It is all singing.
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So does Hamilton. Hamilton, it's all singing.
So they are telling you the story through song, right?
So. Either way, somewhere.
Along the line, did I give that a great?
Yeah, you did not. No.
A or a minus? I think so.
We'll just we'll go B. You're just getting.
Tired. You're getting tired of saying
the word minus. Captain Well, if we're reserving
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the minus for this song, stop it.
This. Is my favorite song on the
album. I told you that moving forward
before you even listen to this. There's four parts to.
This before you say another word, I won't.
We're going to listen to this again, and then I want your
grade because I think here in the second time might do
something for you. Hit it all right.
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Let's take a. Listen Saturday.
Night and you're still hanging around.
Take. It to your special island they
just found your father. In the swimming.
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Pool. It's definitely.
Building. Oh yeah, it.
Built. It's like building a.
House and. Then you get to the top.
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Of the house and you paint it neon orange.
Why would you do that? I don't know.
I thought you're going to say you.
Fall off. Are you talking about this?
You want to talk about listeningto the lyrics?
They found their. Dad in the pool, Yeah.
And then they didn't go back to school.
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Right, because he's. Now he's going to be the
breadwinner. He's going to have to make the
money and his life. I mean, it's just, it's just
this song about this guy who's struggling and I don't know if
Captain Jack's Jack Daniels and he's he's using drugs and stuff
to just to get by. I I What is that?
Guy who's on the peanut butter Crunch box.
That's what I thought. Captain Crunch.
(43:45):
Oh yeah, Captain Crunch. Yeah.
Why? Did you think Captain Jack is
Captain Crunch? I don't know.
I just that was I thought you'd do like Jack.
Sparrow or something Captain, I just heard.
Captain Crunch. He was Captain Jack Sparrow.
Yeah, Yeah. Why didn't you?
Think of him. Why did you think of Captain
Crunch? Mostly because I'm.
Really hungry? Did you notice at lunchtime you
didn't eat? See.
(44:06):
Not today, no. We've.
Already decided? That's another reason you're
being a little crabby little. You know what?
What's the little bleep word? Because I feel like I need to
cuss. Sorry, that was the wrong
button. I don't know.
All right, there we go. No, I won't cuss.
I don't know. Anyway.
Logan, that's an A plus for me and and I'm not kidding when I
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say that that's just the most inin you.
But if you would have to listen to the words, it's just very.
Moving in my. Opinion.
But you since without the words,without words, what do you give
it? Because I know you don't listen
to them, I think. Hearing it the second.
Time did help. I think I was just that was the
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last one I needed to listen to. I listened to it on the way to
work and you were rushed. And you probably got in a rushed
and the dog probably on the carpet and cold.
And cold sitting in traffic behind 2 semi trucks which is my
least favorite thing to do. I think I'd give that AB plus.
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OK, slightly above. Average.
It's and I'm just telling you right now, it's way more than
that, but that's OK. If we can get AB plus out of
you, let's just count our blessings.
I. Think you need to just relax
with your grading? Count our blessings.
Yeah, you're going to take what?You can get and you're going to
like it. So this will be all so excessive
(45:31):
anyway. All right, so.
We got AB plus B -, A minus BB minus B minus BB plus yeah.
I think overall for Billy Joel'sPiano Man, I didn't like it as
much as I thought I was going to.
I think I really set my expectations when it comes to
Billy Joel music. But for.
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The overall grade. I think we'll go solid.
B OK, solid. B I'm.
Definitely going to give you AB minus.
But it is what? It is.
But here's the thing though, I know Dang well, you know you
love Piano Man the song because you've heard it and you're so
(46:11):
familiar with it and everybody likes it and so you listen to
it. If if I had just played you this
album. For the first time ever.
And you never had heard it. I know you would not have liked
Piano Man. You just wouldn't have.
Because it's not. But I.
Also think to back to my point earlier that there's a reason
(46:32):
that some songs become more popular than others and that's
just population general consensus, right?
Because sometimes artists and I've seen it, artists will think
that as one song will do really well and it ends up being a
different song, right? So I mean, I don't know what
(46:55):
that reason is why some people like are a lot of people like
Piano Man and maybe I just fall into that as a average listening
or a music listener, but you know, I.
I liked it. I.
Like it I know you like because you.
Know it well, but and I you're right, the every some songs
(47:17):
resonate for whatever reason. It it has to do with timing when
it's released, what's going on. But some albums stand the test
of time, and this is one of them.
This is one that. People will, if you say, oh,
piano man, people who are old, obviously you're not your age.
You're not going to go, Oh yeah,I love the piano man.
I'm sure there are some. But people my age will say,
(47:38):
yeah, that was a good album. Fair enough.
You know, because. It's got a lot of, yeah, it's
got a lot of different parts of it.
I what I don't like is when everything sounds the same and
this is not that way because it's so different, right?
So Logan. OK, we got two more episodes.
I don't know what the next one'sgoing to be yet.
I I was going to do another whole album, but I think this
(47:58):
was a fiasco, so we're going to have to do something else.
And then the last Speaking of Fiasco's episode 20 is going to
be your pick, Logan. 'S version #2 so we'll see.
Because Logan's version. Number one did so well and I
will say that looking at the rankings of the episodes,
Logan's version is pretty high up there on I don't, I couldn't
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tell you what number it is, but it's definitely top five of the
18 episodes that we've done so far.
So probably because you just keep.
Relisting to it because you, I mean you like. 4 by 4.
I cannot confirm nor deny that. All right, Jim, it's fun.
As always. Thank you for another great
episode, and looking forward to a couple more awesome ones
(48:45):
before the end of season 1. I know we're so sad here.
Wait. But.
Hopefully, we'll be renewed for season #2 hopefully and
otherwise. Until then, make sure you follow
us on social media, on Facebook and Instagram.
At The Vinyl Curriculum, you cansee our beautiful faces on a
(49:07):
weekly basis. Talk about music, talk about the
episodes. Not about everything there is to
talk about. You'll want to see it there.
That's right. At the vinyl.
Curriculum. Jim, thank you again.
And we'll catch you all on the next one.
Bye.
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