July 16, 2025 • 58 mins
What happens when you look beyond treating symptoms and instead focus on optimizing your body's innate healing abilities? Dr. Lindsey Johnson, a chiropractic doctor specializing in acupuncture and holistic health approaches, shares powerful insights that might forever change how you view wellness.
Beyond the adjustment table, Dr. Johnson reveals why chiropractic care should be viewed as nervous system optimization rather than mere pain management. "Eight to ten percent of the nervous system's function is pain," she explains, while the rest controls every cellular function in your body. This understanding transforms chiropractic from a reactive treatment to a proactive approach for better adaptation to life's physical, chemical, and emotional stressors.
The conversation explores fascinating connections between seemingly disconnected health elements: how gut health affects mood and cognition, how inflammation drives disease, and how modern innovations like peptide therapy work with your body's natural systems rather than against them. Dr. Johnson demystifies treatments from acupuncture (using a brilliant traffic jam analogy) to AMIT muscle activation that has helped professional athletes recover from seemingly career-ending injuries.
Most inspiring is Dr. Johnson's personal journey through cancer, where she discovered the transformative power of mindset work. Her morning routine of gratitude journaling and positive affirmations didn't just help her survive—it helped her find meaning and purpose through her challenge. "I am a better doctor now," she reflects. "I truly take that experience as something I was meant to go through to help others later."
Whether you're battling chronic health issues, seeking performance optimization, or simply want to ensure your best health for decades to come, this episode offers practical wisdom on building sustainable wellness habits. Listen now to discover why Dr. Johnson believes that "your body already has everything it needs" to heal and thrive.
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Addison Thom (00:00):
Welcome to another episode of the Wealth Blueprint
.
Today my guest is Dr
Dr. Lindsey Johnson (00:05):
Lindsey
Addison Thom (00:05):
Johnson.
Dr Johnson is a doctor ofchiropractic health and she
specializes in health andwellness with acupuncture,
peptides, ivs and really justsolutions and habits for daily
financial health and long-termlongevity.
So I'm really inspired by herstory, her mindset, what a
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beautiful soul that she is and Ihope you guys learn a lot from
this episode.
Here is Dr Lindsay Johnson.
Like, is that funny to you whenpeople throw around their title
(00:46):
?
Yes, yes, like, what's what'snormally your reaction to that?
Dr. Lindsey Johnson (00:51):
it's annoying.
I don't, yeah, I don't, I don'tknow I it's not necessary, yeah
it's kind of like a statusthing you're like I guess,
attorneys are doctors too right,they have a jurist doctorate.
Well, physical therapists are.
I mean, there's so many indifferent, you know everybody is
.
And then you have yourInstagram doctors.
(01:12):
Instagram doctors, I mean youknow just people that are like
hey, do this and this.
Addison Thom (01:18):
Yeah, I follow a couple of those.
I mean, I think it's reallyeasy to kind of figure out who's
got your best interest.
Dr. Lindsey Johnson (01:26):
Yeah.
Addison Thom (01:26):
Who's like trying to sell you a supplement or you
know something silly, but you'rea doctor in chiropractor.
Dr. Lindsey Johnson (01:34):
Yes, okay so, doctor of chiropractic, I
have a specialty in acupuncture.
Okay so yeah, gotcha, and yourhusband's a doctor.
Addison Thom (01:42):
He's a chiropractor, also Chiropractor
as well.
Dr. Lindsey Johnson (01:43):
Yes, okay.
Addison Thom (01:45):
So I want to start off with that, because we
talked about this a little bit.
But I've been to a chiropractor.
I've never had like a long-termrelationship with adjustments
or anything like that.
I think there's a lot ofinformation out there that
supports chiropractic health.
Yeah, and then there's also alot of information out there
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that supports chiropractichealth, and then there's also a
lot of information out therethat like this is you know,
snake oil, it's ineffective,it's blah, blah, blah.
So I want to jump into thatbecause and most people don't
know this but, like, my wife isa huge convert to you and your
company and it's made a hugedifference in her life, and so I
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kind of just want to jump intothat why should you go see a
chiropractor first of all?
Let's start there.
What's the benefit?
And if I'm a first-timecustomer, what am I looking for?
Okay, customer.
Dr. Lindsey Johnson (02:45):
What, what?
Uh?
What am I looking for?
Okay?
Okay, what's really beautifulabout chiropractic is it is the
single most easiest way toaffect the nervous system and
make an influence on yournervous system.
So it you know, eight to 10% ofof the nervous system's
function is pain.
So that's so.
There's 90% of function that issending signals from your brain
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to every single cell organsystem in the body, and we are
able to.
I don't even think of us as,like, spinal doctors.
I think of us as nervous systemdoctors.
The spine is the easiest way toaffect the nervous system and
so that's what we do.
We're checking the spine.
Everybody's spine looksdifferent, every single one.
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We always take x-rays and it'samazing.
When you see it, you're likewait a second, this makes sense.
We all have traumas.
We all have stresses.
We have emotional, chemical andphysical stresses.
It affects our spine and itaffects our nervous system.
Our nervous system is whattakes in that info.
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So any traumas that arehappening, the nervous system is
remembering that and then it'sharder to adapt to stresses.
So we constantly-.
Addison Thom (03:56):
So it's a cumulative effect.
It's a cumulative, yeah, okay.
Dr. Lindsey Johnson (04:00):
So the purest form you see of
chiropractic is in babies.
People are like why are weadjusting babies?
Whenever they're born, it is atrauma they're going through and
when you adjust them it's soimmediate the difference in how
they're feeding or how they'returning their head or how if
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they're fussy or any of that,you see it automatically and so
that's the purest form.
That's just like wow, um.
But later in life we have somany things that just start
accumulating, like you said, andwe cannot react to those, those
stresses as well.
And so then we get sick easier,um, we're tired, we have a lot
of fatigue, we um just illness.
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I mean, we're just all thesesymptoms, gut health, all of it.
And so that's what we're doing.
We are looking at the person asa whole, going right, like
right to their nervous system,um, to help the, to help put the
influence in there, so it'll bemore efficient.
And we actually do nervoussystem scans, um stress scans on
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people and you can see exactlyhow you're adapting to those
stresses.
And it's really interesting tosee and it all makes sense.
When you see the, see all ofthis data.
It's really neat to see thisand you're like wait a second,
this all makes sense.
This is why I'm having gutissues, or this is you know so
how?
Addison Thom (05:23):
how is the scan or test or whatever like actually
qualifying that right?
What is it showing you that youcan see the nervous system and
how it's operating?
Dr. Lindsey Johnson (05:35):
So there's a couple of different ones.
One is a heart rate variability.
So it sees how your heart is.
You know, the heartbeat isadapting and if you're just
sitting there and you're relaxedand you have your hand in there
, you should the the heartbeatis adapting and if you're just
sitting there and you're relaxedand you have your hand in there
, you should be good to go.
I mean, it should be really, youknow, in this like
parasympathetic mode it shouldjust be rest and digest kind of
mode and it'll show on the graphlike how is this changing and
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why?
So?
Why are you not adapting well?
And it'll that diagram.
And so that's one of them.
And we see it over time, likewe keep re-scanning, and you can
see this dot move on the chartto where, literally, that number
is getting better withchiropractic, and then we have
like a temperature scan as well.
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We should have a balance oneach side.
There shouldn't be differencesin, so that'll show you kind of
where the inflammation is, orwhere the the pool is in the
muscles, um, and so there's yeah, that's just kind of how it's.
Addison Thom (06:34):
There's one other one and but there's yeah, kind
of how it's getting the data andI mean I, I'm a believer in
like the cumulative effect oflifestyle habits, of that too.
Right.
So you know, sleep, cortisol,stress, your diet, like all of
those things are adding up too.
So when you're seeing thoseitems, are you helping clients
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with like preventative care,like hey, make some other
adjustments with diet, or that'sthe thing.
Dr. Lindsey Johnson (07:01):
It can't be all on us, yeah, and they have
to be ready to change and readyto do their part too.
There's so much involved in itand I think we're so accustomed.
I didn't even get adjusted whenI was a kid.
I'm kind of mad about that now.
I was like wait, I could havebeen adjusted this whole time.
We're so used to reactive care.
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We're used to reactive care.
We're used to that.
We're used to wait tillsomething happens and then let's
go get this medication or getthis surgery or whatever.
That's great for when it'sthere, but if we're only relying
on that I've seen it, I've seenit on both sides personally
having to do medication and allthat you get all the side
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effects and you get all of thesethings, and so that's where
this comes in.
It's more taking care of itbefore.
Addison Thom (07:51):
Yeah, all of that.
So, from chiropractic care ingeneral, how much can you hope
to improve through just thatcare?
If you were to make no otheralterations in lifestyle and
just through chiropractic care,what have you seen as far as
like success stories, um, orimprovements that you, you guys
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like this is a success?
Dr. Lindsey Johnson (08:15):
Well, so many.
But so I'm very results driven.
So anybody that comes in, Ialways tell them what's
interesting they can be.
They can get worse before theyget better.
It's bringing everything to thesurface.
It's letting the body recognizewait, there's something
actually going on and you mightnot feel anything.
There might be somebody thatcomes in.
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They don't have any symptoms,they're like I don't, I don't
know why I'm here, but I want toget adjusted.
They might all of a sudden justhave soreness or just feel like
really tired after it orsomething like that.
It's bringing it to the surfaceand then it's starting to,
starting to, and then it's it'sgoing to accumulate over time to
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make that change.
So if they weren't changinganything and they're just doing
chiropractic I go back toinfants when they don't have
stress is really going on.
They don't have a lot of things, you see it.
I mean you see this babyimmediately poop, almost always.
You see them.
We had one the other day.
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He was super fussy, you couldtell he did not feel good at all
, and he came in and he justkind of had like the teary eye.
He just he was just, he waspitiful, he was not feeling good
.
And so my husband is one thatadjusted him.
In the middle of the adjustmenthe just suddenly just relaxed.
He just suddenly did, and by thetime they left he was just good
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to go, and so that's like thepurest form of actually just
seeing this difference.
But with adults we have so muchaccumulated junk in our body
and so it takes time to see thatdifference.
This isn't um.
I always tell people it tookthat this long to get where you
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are right now.
It's going to take some time tokind of bring you back but yeah
, we didn't get here overnight.
Yeah, yeah and no, I mean, youabsolutely can.
We have people.
So we've been in practice for15 years.
We have people that still comefrom, literally like our first
patients that ever were there,and they come either weekly or
every other week.
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Yeah, and they see those.
They just.
It's a lifestyle change thatyou know.
You feel You're just betterable to adapt to stresses.
Yeah, it's pretty cool.
I was trying to think ofanother story for you or like a
specific story, but I'll have tothink on it.
But there are so many, so manycool things.
Addison Thom (10:41):
Yeah, I mean in my own, like personal fitness
journey too.
I mean I've tried so manythings and I think going back to
like almost not Old Testament,but like just what you put in
your body is like what your bodyis going to produce.
Dr. Lindsey Johnson (11:00):
Yeah.
Addison Thom (11:01):
Right.
So I think diet is by farnumber one, because yeah I
changed my diet.
You know you lose weight,inflammation goes down.
Can you talk a little bit aboutthat on, like just gut health
in general and like how that,how you see that manifesting
itself, um, in increasedcortisol levels?
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You know inflammation, nervoussystem like you know
inflammation, nervous system.
Like you know you werementioning that the chiropractic
side of things, you know, canhelp that.
So what are you seeing on that?
You know American diets arenotorious for being extremely
unhealthy, so so inflammation is, is our killer.
Dr. Lindsey Johnson (11:43):
It is an inflammation.
I truly think the root cause ofso much illness is stress I
talk about all the time, butstress is the root cause, I
really think.
But then you have, inflammationis what just sits in our body
and makes us more sick and makesus uncomfortable and have pain,
but in the gut, the same, youknow, um, and so a lot of the
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foods like you're talking aboutthings that people eat causes
that inflammation, and so that'sjust so counteractive to that.
But gut health has a lot to dowith hormones and just how your
um, how, what am I trying to say?
Your um attitude, how you feel,is I mean what I'm trying to
say?
Your attitude, how you feel.
Addison Thom (12:29):
What am I trying to say?
Dr. Lindsey Johnson (12:32):
It can cause depression, anxiety, all
that if your gut is not in check.
I think there's so much to dowith gut health in particular.
Addison Thom (12:38):
Yeah, and the first time I went to see a
chiropractor I mean, this islike an anecdotal story, but I
kept throwing my back out, likelifting weights, first because I
was, you know, in my latetwenties and thought that
there's no reason to do this,but like I was never going to
make the Olympic weightliftingteam.
So, like, why am I trying todeadlift 600 pounds, Right?
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Um, so that's where it started.
And then jujitsu uh, I wascompeting in jujitsu and I, you
know, you're just gettingtwisted up and you're not,
you're not rehabbing correctly,Right?
So your body is just kind oflike.
I don't know just tense all thetime.
But the biggest change that Inoticed I went to a chiropractor
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and that helped.
It helped alleviate, like youknow, the impact of my disc and
like stretching me out, and Ifelt better after I left, but it
wasn't preventing me from doingit again.
And then what I found is Ichanged my diet, first of all,
and so my inflammation levelswent way down, yes, and then
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really strengthening like myhamstrings, my glutes and my
lower back, like just throughworking out and I was doing way
less weight, but like very slow,eccentric, and strengthening
those muscles in your hipsbecause we sit down all day.
So that's part of the problemtoo.
So that made a huge difference.
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I haven't hurt my back since ofthe problem too.
So that made a huge difference.
I haven't hurt my back sincethen.
But I would like reach down toget like a bottle of shampoo in
the shower and then all of asudden, my back would like pop
out of place and I'd be likeTracy, come get me.
Dr. Lindsey Johnson (14:15):
I need to help.
Addison Thom (14:17):
So you know, I think it is a big cumulative
effect.
Right, it's like you have tochange the diet, you have to
strengthen your body throughresistance training.
You know, yoga, stretching,whatever and then adding in
chiropractic, like not one ofthose things is going to cure
you, right, right.
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It's like how do you createthese lifestyle habits?
Yeah, and then when you add inacupuncture, what?
What is the intention of that?
I know virtually nothing aboutthat.
I think the concept and youtell me how stupid I sound I
think the concept is that youwant to bring blood flow to a
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certain area because your bloodcan heal a lot of the muscle
tissue or like inflammation inthat area by drawing attention
to it but what?
what's the?
It's been around.
What?
Dr. Lindsey Johnson (15:10):
thousands of years forever you know, it
was the first form of healthcare ever acupuncture yes, yeah,
and so for me to even be doingit.
It's just.
I'm full of gratitude for that.
It's so neat, um.
So there's something to it yeah, it's been around forever.
And you know some people arenot into chiropractic so much
but they are very much intoacupuncture.
Addison Thom (15:30):
You know there are Well that's part of like
treating the patient instead ofthe cause.
Right, it's like what are youresponding to?
Because you could dochiropractic care every day and
not get better, but then all ofa sudden you introduce
acupuncture and they're likeholy, I felt so much better.
Dr. Lindsey Johnson (15:45):
And actually Matt and I do that a
lot.
He might be seeing somebody andthey're doing great, but then
they have, they get stuck, theyget something happened to the,
probably in their life.
You know, something is reallymaking them stagnant.
He'll say, go to go getacupuncture and it's like a full
body reset.
It'll reset them back.
But what I can say is, ifyou're doing both, you get
better faster.
I tell people that I watch ithappen.
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You get better faster, you getyour goals faster.
But acupuncture we run onenergy.
We have energy channels in thebody and just like if there's a
construction roadblock and carscan't get through.
Well, that's how it is with ourenergy channels.
They get stagnant and it's fromthe stresses as well, and so we
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put needles in specific pointsand it helps that flow start
again.
Well, that's connected toeverything in the body the
circulatory system, the nervoussystem, all that and it's
releasing hormones, bringing theblood circulation to certain
areas and just telling the bodyhey, let's heal on it on our own
.
Addison Thom (16:45):
Basically, yeah so that's yeah interesting and so,
but what?
What's causing the healing?
Dr. Lindsey Johnson (16:53):
your own.
You're putting back, taking outthe stagnation.
Okay, putting it's, it's anefficiency, it's making your
body run more efficiently, andyou, you know just, we have
stagnation in life, we just feelit, and so that's what it's
doing.
I mean, it's truly like, hey,whoa, let's get this all flowing
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again.
You know.
Addison Thom (17:15):
Gotcha, yeah, yeah .
So it's like releasing waterfrom a dam.
Dr. Lindsey Johnson (17:19):
Yes, that's how I think.
Yes, that's exactly how I thinkabout it Interesting.
Addison Thom (17:22):
I definitely want to try that.
Dr. Lindsey Johnson (17:23):
Yeah.
Addison Thom (17:25):
I would be open to doing chiropractic stuff too,
especially when I'm gettingolder.
Man, just sleep too.
I'll wake up and my neck isstuck.
I have this bro mentality ofit's fine, you just have to go
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work out harder and then it'llget better.
But sometimes it never getsbetter, like I've had this issue
with my neck.
I popped it maybe six monthsago on my right side and I can't
extend my neck all the way backon my right side like it just
popped or you popped it no, I,this is how old I am it just
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yeah, I just yeah.
I literally woke up in themorning, yeah, okay, and I went
to stretch like you're likeyawning, yeah stretching and for
whatever reason, I was justlike oh yeah, like this like oh
you know, and my neck just wentclink, clink and like seized up.
Dr. Lindsey Johnson (18:23):
Yeah.
Addison Thom (18:24):
So I don't know, I don't know if it's my energy
field, or I'm just old now, orwhat's going on.
Well, degeneration is happening, yeah.
Dr. Lindsey Johnson (18:33):
And you know what's scary is our kids.
They're on their iPads so much.
I mean we're two, but we didn'tstart at two.
They are going to have areverse neck, reverse curve, and
it's not good.
It's not good, yeah, it's notgood.
It puts so much pressure onthose nerves?
totally, it's not.
It's so.
That's one reason why kidsshould be in it.
That's number one reason theyshould be in adjusted.
But um but no.
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You said earlier that you know,whenever you're working out a
lot and then you bent down andit just like went out, well,
that's what you have to worryabout in time.
That's what happens to to a lotof, especially guys.
They're not doing anything.
They're literally like tyingtheir shoe and all of a sudden
their back is out.
And they will.
They'll call us over theweekend, or it'll be like their
wife.
They'll text say can I get myhusband in?
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I mean, he literally what didhe do?
Nothing.
Addison Thom (19:29):
He was just vacuuming or whatever.
You know something thing that Istarted noting, cause I've
thrown my back out probably 20times since the first injury
that I had, and sometimes it'sworse than others.
I mean, there was a one pointwhere I was working out at a
hotel in the Austin area and I'dbeen driving all day.
Every time I throw my back outit's from bad posture and
sitting for long periods of time, whether it's on an airplane or
like I watched football for sixhours on Sunday and then Monday
my back goes out, like notstanding up, not continuing to
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move.
Your hamstrings tighten up,your lower back tightens up.
All of that stuff happens andthen you know it takes nothing
and it just pops out of place.
So I was at this hotel inAustin.
I'd been driving all day.
I was like I need to get aworkout and I'll just feel
better.
So I was at this hotel inAustin.
I'd been driving all day.
I was like I need to get aworkout in, I'll just feel
better.
I did like three kettlebellswings and my back popped out
and I was like, oh man, thatfeels weird.
And my solution to that was Iwas going to dead hang from the
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pull-up bar, because of coursethat would help.
So I dead hang from the pull-upbar.
My whole back seizes up.
Okay, I couldn't get off thefloor.
I had to.
I crawled on my hands and kneesto the telephone in the gym.
I had to call the front desk.
I was like I need you to bringa wheelchair oh my gosh and then
I mean it was just bad.
Dr. Lindsey Johnson (20:37):
So I love guys solutions.
Addison Thom (20:38):
Sometimes it's so hilarious yeah, we're just gonna
we're so dumb that's amazing.
Well, you know, what I need todo is deadlift.
It'll straighten my spine backout.
That's hilarious but what I'venoticed is just I mean the diet
changing my diet, uh,prioritizing sleep, because when
you don't get sleep, you'rementioning, like resting heart
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rate, like if you have an applewatch or, uh, you know what are
those other things that peoplewear on their wrist?
Dr. Lindsey Johnson (21:06):
now you know what I'm talking about.
Yeah, yeah, I know what you'retalking about.
I don't know.
They're just whatever the heartrate monitors.
Addison Thom (21:12):
If you don't sleep well and you like wake up let's
say you had five hours of sleepyour resting heart rate is
going to be higher anyway.
Yeah, because your body is likenot well rested and it's trying
to like keep itself awake andpressing forward.
So if you prioritize that, thathelps.
And then I would always justsuggest to everybody to like
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prioritize your core and yourlower body.
That's another guy.
Move right, skip leg day ordon't prioritize leg day.
But the stronger your legs are,your glutes, your hamstrings
specifically, and your core, theless you're going to injure
yourself, especially as we getolder.
So you know I'm almost 40.
You know I'm like working inreverse now, trying to like make
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up for that.
Dr. Lindsey Johnson (21:56):
I swear.
When you turn 40, it's likethings change.
It's crazy.
Addison Thom (22:01):
It's crazy.
Dr. Lindsey Johnson (22:01):
Yeah, well, so you?
I don't know if you've everheard of AMIT.
This is another thing we do.
Like I said, like we lovechiropractic, we think it's the
base, but there's so many thingsthat help people and AMIT is
like you were saying.
All that.
I was like that's everythingMatt would be saying right now.
Core is everything.
It activates muscles that haveshut down.
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Coolest thing ever.
It's not an adjustment, it ismore of like an energy work, but
whenever you injure yourselfback in the day, it probably
shut down some of the coremuscles that you have and you
can reactivate those and then itdoesn't make you so vulnerable
to injury.
It's incredible.
Addison Thom (22:42):
And how do you do it?
Is it like a pulse thing?
There's a map system, and howdo you do it?
Is it like a pulse thing orwhat is it?
Dr. Lindsey Johnson (22:45):
There's a map system and so there's like
points on the body and you'reholding these and it's
interesting, it kind of hurts,it kind of it's tender at a
certain point.
Yeah, it's tender but it's work.
It's using lymphatic points,acupuncture points and then
particular points on thesemuscles.
But this doctor that startedthis is in Utah and he would see
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NBA athletes and it was um, I'mmad that I can't remember his
name Stockton Stockton had agame in the finals where he, he,
uh, he sprained his ankle bigtime, I mean it looked horrible
on screen.
He went back there.
Dr Buehler went back there anddid AMIT on him.
He was able to play the rest ofthe game.
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I mean, it looked like he brokeit.
He was able to go right backout there and play because he
activated these muscles, and sothat's where it all kind of
began.
Yeah.
Addison Thom (23:38):
It's incredible.
Dr. Lindsey Johnson (23:39):
That is great.
Addison Thom (23:39):
You know, the first time I heard that, I was
like that is so insane.
Yeah, like when you tellsomeone that it's so insane to
think that that's a solution foranything.
Dr. Lindsey Johnson (23:49):
I know You're like how is?
Addison Thom (23:50):
that even possible , and then you look into that
doc.
Didn't he like work for theOlympic Committee or?
Dr. Lindsey Johnson (23:55):
something?
I think so, and he like fixed,he did all kinds of things.
Addison Thom (23:57):
Yeah, yeah, so he's.
I know a couple friends thathave like really jacked their
shoulders up or whatever andgone to see him and the next day
they're out playing golf.
Dr. Lindsey Johnson (24:06):
So that's who we were trained by.
We went to Utah and we weretrained by him.
I mean, it's incredible work.
Addison Thom (24:12):
Yeah yeah.
It's crazy how the body likealmost everything you need is
already in your body.
Dr. Lindsey Johnson (24:18):
I know it's .
That's.
You said it perfectly, that'sexactly right.
Yeah, we said it perfectly.
That's exactly right.
Yeah, we're just bringing thatto the surface and letting your
body.
We're not, we are not treatinganything, healing anything.
It's your own body doing it.
Addison Thom (24:29):
Yeah, it's just taking out those interferences
yeah, you say something aboutlike acupuncture and there's
like thousands of years ofhistory of acupuncture being
used in eastern medicine andyeah being able to apply that to
today.
and then then you get to add onyou know advances in modern
medicine that help too.
So one one thing that's reallyhelped change my life,
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especially as I'm aging, ispeptides, right, yeah, you know
real popular ones NAD plus BPC157.
Can you just talk about likethe advancements in that and
what you've seen?
And again, I come to you as afirst time client, right, why do
I need to be on peptides?
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What are we looking for?
What's out there that can help?
Dr. Lindsey Johnson (25:14):
So peptides , you know it's.
We started bringing these backwhen we opened Pure Health in
2019.
A lot of people didn't knowabout it yet and now it's really
picking up more steam andthere's just more info about it.
But it is truly a naturallyoccurring.
It's a chain of amino acids,just small chains that tell our
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body different functions.
And it's what we have in ourbody, but because we age and
from stresses, we decrease itover time, and so when we can
supplement with it, it is soit's like-.
Addison Thom (25:52):
It's a game changer.
Dr. Lindsey Johnson (25:54):
It's like what is happening?
This is new age.
This is like a movie.
It's like how is?
Addison Thom (25:59):
this possible, that we can?
Dr. Lindsey Johnson (26:00):
take this stuff.
And so, yeah, the BPC-157 isgreat for healing for injuries.
You know all of that.
And then you have ipamrelinthat is great for leaning out
muscle, decreasing fat or sleep.
Even the ones that are forweight loss, they are actually
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like semaglutide andtrisempatide.
They're actually finding thatis decreasing inflammation in
the body as well.
So some MDs are even tellingtheir patients that have
inflammatory issues, hey, trythis out.
And so, yeah, it's just it'sincredible To have access to
that is yeah, and they keeptrying to kind of take it away
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from us sometimes and we're likeno, yeah, well, I remember
BPC-157 specifically was off theradar for a long time.
Addison Thom (26:51):
It just brought it back.
But I think a lot of that isthe way the American health
system is set up, where theywant you sick because then they
can sell you all these drugs andstuff.
Bpc-157 is such a some peoplecall it like the Wolverine drug
because you recover so quickly,because it reduces inflammation.
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But you know, pharma, big pharma, wants you to have inflammation
.
They don't want you to have.
They want all that build up sothat they can prescribe you.
You know, know, xyz, thatdoesn't really actually help you
and that that's been my feartoo about, like these
semi-glutide and um, because Ithink you need to treat the
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patient right and not just sellthings in mass to people.
And it seems like america islike drunk on glp-1s now yeah
right, like everyone's on it.
Can you talk a little bit aboutthat, like who should be on it?
What is it actually helping youhear all these like horror
stories too, of like, oh, I'mlosing bone density and, uh, my
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muscles going down, and like youknow, yep, what was its
original intention and whoshould actually be on it?
Dr. Lindsey Johnson (28:07):
It's an original intention was to help
people that were diabetic, thathelp with blood sugar regulation
and and I, I'm, I'm, and I'mnot great on the history of it
of exactly did they know it wasgoing to make them?
Help them lose weight as well?
I don't know, but um, it,absolutely.
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You have to have so muchprotein and I think a lot of
people aren't educated on it,and maybe some doctors
prescribing it they don't.
I don't know if they tell theirpatients or not, but they don't
because you can literally.
Addison Thom (28:39):
There's an instagram site that you can like
, a you know hemscom or whateveryou.
You can just go on there, do atelehealth concert console
that's five seconds long andthen they'll just prescribe you
a GLP-1.
That's like insane to me.
Which honestly Same thing Iwould say about like anything
Testosterone, hormonereplacement, any of that stuff.
You should not be getting thatin a five minute console without
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your blood work being done,without ongoing monitoring from
a healthcare professional oflike, hey, what's changing in
your body?
Because, just like we talkedabout earlier, it's not for
everybody.
You could take something and itgives you a way worse reaction,
or it could be like thesolution you've been looking for
for your whole life andeverybody's different.
Dr. Lindsey Johns (29:22):
Everybody's's different and we have to really
we have to take control of ourown what we're putting in our
body, and so we have to research.
It doesn't matter what we'represcribed, we have got to know
what could happen or what youknow, just know all the things,
and we can't really put that allon our doctors to like make
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sure we know every single thing,because our bodies can react
different, everybody's differentright um.
That's where the monitoringcomes into place, right, it's
like yeah for sure six monthslater?
Addison Thom (29:50):
hey, we need to check in, we need to pull your
blood panel again and just makesure.
Yeah, everything's good, right?
Dr. Lindsey Johnson (29:56):
um, but who should be on them?
It's really, it's, it's sodifferent.
You, you know, people areactually.
Are you talking about like theweight loss ones?
Addison Thom (30:08):
Just in general, like if you were gonna.
If you're a physician and youhave this tool in your tool
chest, you're not.
You're not using it for everytask, right?
So who are you looking to useit for?
Obviously, it helps with weightloss, but you also mentioned
inflammation.
Dr. Lindsey Johnson (30:27):
Yeah, so really I don't know how many
doctors are really prescribing,as much as it's more people.
I don't know but getting infoand saying wait, I don't want
that you know, because sometimesit's not treating.
I mean, you've you know wetalked about all the neat things
that it's doing.
So I think MDs are just nowgetting on board with it of
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telling clients about it.
But I think people are seekingit out that want leaner muscle
or want to heal better or wantthe weight loss too.
Some people are evenmicrodosing those peptides
because it helps with gut health.
It helps them feel better.
Addison Thom (31:11):
And it helps curb appetite yeah.
Dr. Lindsey Johnson (31:13):
It's actually really they're all so
great, but one can reactdifferent with somebody.
I mean, there's really very,very, very low side effects, but
there can be, yeah, I think,with anything, with anything,
with anything yeah.
Addison Thom (31:23):
Yeah, I think, with anything, with anything,
with anything, yeah, yeah, andthat's why I think it's so
important and I want your takeon this.
I mean, you and your husbandare, you know, mature parents.
You're running businesses, youknow you're obviously we're all
getting older and you guys havethese like lifestyles and habits
that are effective, soeffective.
(31:46):
So I want to get your insighton that.
But I think that it has to allstart with, like, the
fundamental of the habits youbuild Absolutely.
So it has to be based off ofnutrition first, what you're
putting in your body, eatingenough protein and some sort of
resistance training.
Dr. Lindsey Johnson (31:58):
Absolutely.
Addison Thom (31:58):
Period Whether it's once a week or three times
a week or whatever.
You don't have to be MrUniverse, but you need to.
If you can incorporate thosetwo things in your life and then
prioritize sleep, I think thatwill solve 70% of a lot of
people's problems.
Not having those habits andthose fundamentals in place.
And then doing what us asAmericans do, which is immediate
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gratification of like what usas Americans do, which is
immediate gratification of like,oh, I'll just take a GLP one,
or I'll just take a peptide, orthat's right.
That's what I think the insanityis that I think is the longterm
harm that could be caused.
It was like you and again thatgoes back to like you know we
have freedom of choice.
You know we're all our ownindividuals.
We can make those decisions.
But if you're making thatdecision without changing the
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other habits in your life, Ithink you're setting yourself up
for a lot of issues.
Dr. Lindsey Johnson (32:48):
You said that so well, because I cause, I
see it.
I see that with people,especially on the on the weight
loss peptides, they don't reallyget healthier because, yeah,
maybe they're, they've lost theweight, but now they have zero
muscle because they had, they'venever implemented and this
isn't everybody, this is just afew that, just if you don't make
those lifestyle changes, you'restill really the same person.
It's just a little less weightbut, yeah, they lose the muscle
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and it's like you said itperfectly and that's dangerous,
too, for longevity.
Addison Thom (33:18):
So, when you look at like all of these, one thing
I love about health and wellnessright now is there's so much
like acute data that's comingout about things that you can
change and what leads tolongevity and a healthy life
right, grip, strength, musclemass and basically your
equilibrium, like your balance,like having a strong core, being
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able.
So, as you're aging, right, ifyou're losing muscle mass, what
happens when you're 70 years old, slipping and falling is like
one of the number one causes ofdeath right, so that ends your
longevity, right there.
So, if you're not puttingyourself in a position to like,
hey, I need to do someresistance training, make sure
my balance is good and you'rejust taking these GLP-1s, that
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you're losing bone density,you're losing some muscle mass,
you're weaker at the end of theday, right, that's the end
result.
So I would just precaution.
Anyone like that's looking forlongevity specifically, and
that's the only thing I careabout now.
I'm almost 40 years old and Igot young kids.
I want to be running aroundwith them and my grandkids when
I'm in my seventies and eighties.
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Uh, I got a late start withthat, right, so I'm already kind
of like I'm going an old grandsame.
I'm like I hope I'm for mygrandkids.
Gosh, I'm yeah, so yeah.
So what are?
Like?
You know?
I think you and your husbandare a great example of how to be
extremely busy, because thoseare excuses I hear all the time
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too.
Dr. Lindsey Johnson (34:47):
Yeah, of like I don't have time to work
out that's right?
Addison Thom (34:51):
Well, you're sleeping in until 8 am first of
all, so why don't you wake up at6 and go get a half an hour
workout in Yep?
What are the habits and thingsthat you and your husband have
put in place?
And I think everyone that canrelate to this.
That's a parent right.
When you first have kids, it'schaotic right.
Your whole life changesovernight.
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Your schedule becomes theirs,not yours, but somehow during
that, you guys managed to, youknow, keep a healthy
relationship, parent your kids,run a company, stay in shape.
So what are those likefundamental habits that you guys
put together?
That's like, hey, these arenon-negotiables of like how do
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how do we get this done?
How do we accomplish everythingwe want to and be here?
Dr. Lindsey Johnson (35:39):
Honestly, number one is probably I mean
not number one, but very, veryimportant is exercise.
We and I'm I'm so glad thatMatt is also very passionate
about it too but I genuinelythink it saved my life through
all of my past history withhealth stuff and still to this
day, and what I've learned is weused to like every day Every
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day, even on vacation, we'regoing to work out.
We just love it.
We enjoy it Because it gives youenergy and it makes you feel,
and when you start to feel weakand you're just, how do you get
out, we just love it, we enjoyit, but because it gives you
energy and it makes you feel,and when you start to feel weak
and you're just, how do you getthrough the day?
So, um, but what I've learnedand this has been a hard lesson,
but once I turn 40 is I can'tgo and sin all the time now.
Addison Thom (36:21):
So recovery is as important recovery is, I'm all
about recovery.
Dr. Lindsey Johnson (36:25):
We can go there too.
I have figured that out becauseI yeah, I learned I cannot do
two days anymore.
I can't, I would, I would try,and then I don't need to work
out seven days a week or evenfive.
I could go down to three, fourand I'm good and I feel great.
Addison Thom (36:41):
Especially if your diet's in order.
Absolutely and you're not yeah.
Yeah, your days off should notbe like pizza and wing day every
day.
Your days off should not belike pizza and wing day every
day.
Right yeah, you got to stick tothe plan.
Dr. Lindsey Johnson (36:50):
You've got to and, of course, have balance
and all that I mean there'sgoing to be.
You know you've got to eat oncein a while, but truly, yeah, I
think that has been huge for us.
You know one thing, a habitthat we put in place, too, was
date nights.
I mean that was huge for us,and even was that was huge for
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us, and even you know what it'slike when you have like little
little ones.
I'm sure tracy was like I wouldhave days I'm exhausted, I don't
want to go on a date, I don'tfeel like it.
But we would and we would evenlike go uh, cycle or do
something you know active andfun, and but we still today I
mean he this morning he was, wassaying bye and he's like let's
do a date night tonight.
I'm like let's do that and Ithink we have to.
That has been so.
Addison Thom (37:36):
It's a game changer.
Dr. Lindsey Johnson (37:37):
It is a game changer and travel.
I know we get judged.
I know we do when we leave wehave to, like everybody knows,
all of our clients know.
But that has been huge for usto break away.
We come back stronger, we comeback with ideas.
We we can give 100 to ourclients because we have taken a
break with our family or withoutum, and so that has been huge.
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Um, another, I'm trying tothink it.
Well, I'm all about morningroutine, all about it.
I refuse, refuse to be in ahurry in the morning.
I want to wake up earlier thanmy kids is always good and just
really get mindset going for theday.
Addison Thom (38:16):
What's your morning routine?
Walk me through that.
Dr. Lindsey Johnson (38:19):
I like to wake up about five.
My kids would be like you don'tdo that every day.
I don't not every single day,but on the good days.
This is um, but yeah, I like toget up at five and I like to go
through affirmations, gratitudeI sometimes journal, it
sometimes journal things, um,but anything to do to get into
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the right mindset.
You know, gratitude brings ourvibration to the highest.
That's how we can get ourvibration really high to start
the day.
Um, so anything uh that I cando.
And then I love green tea, so Iget my, my cup of green tea and
, um, I love the sauna.
Sometimes we'll get in there.
Um, I did not work out untilabout 10.
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So I, I, I actually really usedto love getting up really early
and working out and getting itdone in the morning, but with
kids now I don't do that.
I do it a little bit later.
Addison Thom (39:11):
You got to get them out for the day.
Dr. Lindsey Johnson (39:13):
I have to get them out and then I could go
enjoy.
But I the best days are workoutdays, you know, and so get that
in.
But I think number one it'sit's getting mindset set for the
day, you know.
Addison Thom (39:25):
Yeah, I have a very similar setup and the two
crossover.
I mean I wake up at five.
That's the only time I havealone.
Yeah, exactly.
Until my kids wake up.
Dr. Lindsey Johnson (39:39):
Yeah.
Addison Thom (39:39):
So I'll make their lunch and get their breakfast
ready, but I have my coffee.
Usually read my Bible or I'mreading something else.
Dr. Lindsey Johnson (39:46):
Yeah.
Addison Thom (39:47):
And I'm setting my mindset for the day and looking
at my schedule and planning,like, hey, what do I want to
actually accomplish today?
I think that's huge and it's.
It's very similar to like thedate night with your wife, right
?
Even if you don't feel likedoing it, you guys are tired,
it's the end of the day, justthat, like we'll go to dinner
and then we'll go to likereflexology and just get like
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foot massages together.
Dr. Lindsey Johnson (40:10):
We love doing that.
That's amazing.
Addison Thom (40:11):
Because it's so good.
You put your phone down.
Sometimes we'll just sit thereand hold each other's hands and
not say anything and just likeoh my God, it's been a long day,
and just kind of de-stress andkind of soak in and think about
the day.
But other times we'll just sitthere and talk to each other for
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an hour.
That's the most conversationuninterrupted you're going to
have all week and that's sopowerful to like reset your
relationship, your connection,and I would encourage people to
do that with themselves.
Like that one hour in themorning, whether it's, you know,
scripture or um dailyaffirmations or whatever, that's
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a conversation with you, right,and you might have a
conversation with you and God,but it's like it's so important
to turn the mirror on yourselfand have a conversation with
yourself, of like being honestwith yourself about what you
want to accomplish, where youare in your life and what you
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plan on doing.
I think so many people, becauseof all the distractions that
are in the world you mentionediPads earlier and TV, and then
you have social media Like it'sso easy to distract yourself
from you.
You're distracting yourselflike away from your own mind and
your own heart, of like, hey, Ineed to check in with myself
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and be like let's get this, youknow, going.
So it's really interesting likea lot of successful and like
motivated people that I I talkwith.
Those schedules are very similaryeah, that's interesting you
know there's like alone time,whether it's in the sauna by
yourself or reading or whateverit is.
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They have to take that alonetime and they try to limit
distractions from outsideinfluences as much as possible.
It's very rare you ever meetanybody that's successful or
highly motivated.
That's like on TikTok all day,or like they never miss a game
on TV or whatever you know, whenyou meet those people, it's
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like what are you?
How do you do that?
Right?
Oh, you're not accomplishingthe thing that you promised
yourself you would do, right?
Dr. Lindsey Johnson (42:21):
You know, I tell people to schedule it too.
You know, schedule your time,whatever it is.
Addison Thom (42:25):
Well, while we were talking about mindset too,
and you had mentioned yourbattle with cancer and coming
through that kind of talk to me,I have never been through
anything like that, and I neverwant you to go through that
inspired by, just like your,demeanor.
It's so easy for people to bedown on themselves or crawl into
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a hole.
They crawl into a hole and likewoe is me kind of thing, yeah,
so what was your mindset whenall that happened?
How do you, how do you breakthrough that and how did how has
it changed you?
Just having that experience.
Dr. Lindsey Johnson (43:04):
It.
It was the most shockingobviously thing we've ever ever
thought we would go through.
It was the most shockingobviously thing we've ever
thought we would go through.
And so at first I was terrifiedand I was pissed and I was like
what is happening?
But I knew to get all of myfacts in line and I learned
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really quickly to take controland not, you know, you get told
no once in a while or nope, thisisn't going to work for you.
I refused to hear that kind ofthing.
If there was something thatdidn't feel right to me, then I
would get a differentconsultation with a different
doctor.
I went to Dallas for a lot ofstuff and I would really seek
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out answers and I also.
It happened really fast.
Once you find out somethinglike that, everything just rolls
out.
I mean, it's so quick and Ilearned very quickly.
That's actually when I reallystarted these morning routines.
Actually I'm sure I did some ofit before, but like intentional
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morning routines started then Icause you only go day by day.
You can't look past that.
It's like not even possible,and so I would have to center
and think of anything positive Icould think of, and I did.
I was.
I didn't focus on all of thebad.
I would think focus on howsupported I was, and so the
people around I mean my would.
I didn't focus on all of thebad.
I would think focus on howsupported I was, and so the
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people around I mean my husbandincredible, um, and so I would
just focus on that and focus onanything finding the right
doctors and finding the rightkind of treatments.
That that seemed right and um,and I would notice signs, like I
was.
We were in Dallas and we werejust about to do my double
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mastectomy and I rememberlooking out the window.
We were at a restaurant and itsaid, what's the best that could
happen?
And I was like what's the bestcould happen?
What is?
I came out of that surgery inthat situation the best it could
have possibly been.
It's crazy.
No one has a great experiencewith that.
I truly I didn't have a badexperience at all Incredible
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doctors, incredible experienceand I thought I think it's truly
because of mindset.
I followed this mindset of justwhat is the best way to get out
, what I mean why don't we focus?
Addison Thom (45:22):
Have you always been like that, or was there
like a point in your life thatyou made a conscious effort to
do that?
Because I don't think that'slike innate, I think there's
people that are optimistic right.
But, I don't think it's like apractice that you know if you're
just like naturally optimistic,sometimes you're like foolish
in your optimism right.
So, like, was there somethingthat happened where you're like
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I'm going to make a real efforton my mindset?
I think it was that.
Dr. Lindsey Johnson (45:49):
Really I think I've always been positive
and thinking of the positive,but I think that was the moment
that I learned you have controlof it and if you don't, it will
be the worst experience.
That was the worst experience,anyways, it could have been a
million times worse if I wouldhave not had the right mindset.
I have great memories from thattime.
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That is so bizarre.
I would go on walks with yourwife.
I mean I loved having thosewalks.
I mean it's just there was somuch good to take from it and I
am a better doctor now.
I truly think I'm moreempathetic, I can help people
more and I I truly take thatexperience as something.
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I just needed to go.
I was meant to go through itand, um, to help others later.
Addison Thom (46:36):
I mean I really think that, so yeah, so you
weren't making a consciouseffort really before that.
You were trying to remainpositive, but it seems like this
situation forced your hand alittle bit right.
Dr. Lindsey Johnson (46:50):
Yeah, where , like the alternative is like
it's like, which way are yougoing to go?
Addison Thom (46:52):
Yeah, alternative is doom and gloom, totally.
Dr. Lindsey Johnson (46:55):
Yep.
Addison Thom (46:55):
So for like people out there that may be going
through something like this orjust are struggling with mindset
in general, what are the thingsthat helped you to like develop
that muscle?
Because I doubt that, like dayone of you got a cancer
diagnosis, you're like, oh, Ihave all the tools to like help
my mindset Right.
So what helped you with that?
How do?
You how do you strengthen thatmuscle?
Dr. Lindsey Johnson (47:17):
Well, I remember I was given a gratitude
journal.
I'd never had that gratitudejournal.
You know, they gave me agratitude journal and I remember
opening that and I that's whatI that's where it all began.
I started that in the morningand I was I would just write.
I, that's where it all began.
I started that in the morningand I was I would just write,
you know it out, what I wasgrateful for.
That was the easiest becausethat guides you, you know, in a
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way, to write things.
And then I, when I had thisjournal, then I would write down
um affirmations from that andstart writing them out and um,
you, our, our mind, talks toevery cell in our body and I
there's so much I've done withthis.
I've done a lot of work withmindset um, because fear can
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take us over, and it canabsolutely make us more sick,
and so I've had to do a lot ofwork, but that's where it all
began, was really.
I think it was that simplething, yeah, really simple, um,
and I mean you're're, you're bigin faith as well.
I think that it's that was whenI truly, um have found my true
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connection with god as wellduring that time, and that was
really.
I've always been, uh, I'vealways been, you know, raised in
a church and all of that.
But to truly experience thefeeling of letting go I don't
have control, I leave it to youand he got me out of the
situation immediately Was likewhat?
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So that was huge.
It was so many huge moments.
Addison Thom (48:47):
Yeah, that's beautiful to hear and I think
that a lot of people have thatexperience too.
Just with faith.
right, it's like you're you growup in the church you're kind of
just like following directionfrom your parents exactly um and
even attending church and I'vehad a kind of like an epiphany
with this too of like going tochurch is like you could just be
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attending a theology class at acollege, because what's
happening at church is they'relike reading the scripture and
interpreting it to you ortelling you like, hey, these are
the things you need to obey,right?
The real connection with godand the real connection with
your own faith is the action you, the actions you take from that
.
It's not enough just to go,take in the information and like
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, oh, I feel a little bit better, the worship service was so
great and I got to sing and putmy hands up.
That's not the connection.
What the requirement of you isis to take action with that
information.
So, even when you're saying, youknow, I gave it to God, you did
, but you also took action.
You also woke up and youdecided consciously, like I am
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going to give this to God, butI'm also going to help myself in
my own mental.
You know, god's job is not tolike save you from your own
stupidity, it's to hey, I gaveyou all these tools to do
something with.
I trust that you're going toalso use those too, and I think
that's such an importantconnection that you need to make
Exactly.
Um really even just in yourmindset, if you're not open to
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Christianity or learning moreabout that and you just want to
improve your life from that.
I think there's so many lessonsthey can learn from listening
to your story and just hey, Ineed to start my day off with
positive affirmation and gettingyour brain chemistry to a place
like that's what it's feedingoff of, because we can easily
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feed off of the food ofnegativity to your brain, can't
right?
Dr. Lindsey Johnson (50:46):
isn't that insane that your brain is like
yeah, you get endorphins fromboth yeah, isn't that amazing
isn't that kind of gross and whydo people always want to?
Addison Thom (50:55):
tell you the negative right I mean they love
it I.
I think it's avoidance.
I think it's avoidance ofthemselves.
I think that's why gossipexists.
I think that's why judgingother people exists, because
it's avoidance of yourself, it'savoidance of the conversation
that you're having in your ownhead.
Yeah, and if you can escapethat, make someone else feel a
little bit lower, um, or makeyou yourself feel a little bit
(51:19):
better from you know a toughtime somebody else is going
through.
You get to avoid all of the ownstuff that's taking place with
you.
Yes, and I, and there is somesort of brain like, if you think
about that, the relief fromyourself if you're unhappy with
who you are yeah the relief fromyourself is an endorphin.
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I get to talk trash about DrLindsay and, um, you know, or
her kids are misbehaving and I'mnot the parent that I want to
be, so I get to judge her forhow she parents her kids or
whatever, and I just get thatlittle break from myself of like
I'm disappointed in me.
Dr. Lindsey Johnson (51:58):
I've never even thought about it that way.
I like it, I like yeah.
Addison Thom (52:02):
I agree, stop it.
Yeah, don't do that.
Well, I really appreciate youbeing here.
I'd love to have you on moreand I'd like to actually talk
more and maybe even have yourhusband on too, separately and
get his opinion also.
But as things are maturing inthis health and wellness space,
(52:23):
I think that people couldmassively benefit from it.
I think they could benefit fromjust having a conversation with
you, massively benefit from it.
I think they could benefit fromjust having a conversation with
you.
I would recommend to anyone,especially over the age of like
35, is you should just youshould start with your blood,
get a blood panel done, see whatyou're deficient in, see what
can kind of like put you ontrack.
(52:44):
And, you know, meet with DrLindsay and Infinity Wellness
and also Pure Health right, purehealth is the IV peptide side
and infinity wellness is thechiropractic.
Yes, awesome, I woulddefinitely start there and just
see, like, what adjustments nopun intended, or maybe uh that
you can make in your own lifeand and um, solve, solve those
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issues.
Dr. Lindsey Johnson (53:09):
You know, I always talk about a lot of
things.
I do, you know, I try alldifferent things, and so people
will come to me and say what doI start with?
I don't want anybody to thinkthey have to do it all, and
everybody's different.
And so I do consults that it'lljust talk about it.
Let's figure out what would begreat for you.
You know, and everybody'sdifferent.
Addison Thom (53:36):
Well, I think that's another great thing to
point out.
So, like my wife is, uh,definitely guilty of this and I
make fun of her for it.
But like she'll try like fivethings at one time, right of
like hey, methylene blue andthis peptide and chiropractic
adjustments and acupuncture andreflex all or whatever it is
right, and I'm like how do youknow which one of those things
is making the benefit?
Dr. Lindsey Johnson (53:55):
Yeah.
Addison Thom (53:55):
Right Now you could say the shotgun approach
is great and you just feelbetter, so just stick with that.
But like, how would yourecommend someone go on that
health journey, like from startto finish, like I sit down with
you, walk me through thatprocess, like what, what does
that look like?
Dr. Lindsey Johnson (54:13):
Okay, you're not going to like this
first answer, but truly,whenever I talk to people, I'm
like if you would just startwith chiropractic, we go from
there Like even if you don'tdecide to do chiropractic, but
it is way more, I get to payattention to like how things are
changing and it's just morevery much a you have somebody
watching over how's everythinggoing and then, but anyways, if
(54:35):
not, I just we, I see what theirgoals are.
It's all about goals.
What is your goal?
Is it longterm or short term?
Is it pain?
Is it fatigue?
Is it what is it?
And then it might be ozone.
When you're sick and notfeeling well, that's the best
thing ever.
If you're not feeling well, itmight be an IV to pep you back
up.
Or if you're having a run,having a race soon, but it might
(54:55):
be AMIT, you know, for pastinjuries, and so there's.
I would just sit with somebodyand say what are your goals?
And this is how I would guideyou, you know to each of them.
You don't need to do all thisstuff at the same time, but this
might depend on what's going on.
Addison Thom (55:10):
Can I make a suggestion on that?
Dr. Lindsey Johnson (55:12):
Yeah.
Addison Thom (55:14):
This changed our business life monumentally.
Tell me, Goals are fleetingthings Because when you reach
them unless you have the othergoals set up, the real
difference maker is why do youwant to do those things and
learning from those people likeI want to fix my shoulder, Okay,
(55:34):
why?
Dr. Lindsey Johnson (55:35):
Why I love that?
Because it hurts.
Addison Thom (55:37):
Okay, well, think 20 years from now, right, why?
Because I want to pick up mygrandkids, because I want to,
you know, be able to golf everyday, because I want to like, if
you really extract that, that isthe fruit, I truly believe, of
people accomplishing the goal Ilove that it's like why do you
want it?
Why do you?
Dr. Lindsey Johnson (55:55):
want to get in shape, yeah, why do?
Addison Thom (55:57):
you want to be healthy?
Why do you want to eat better?
Why do you?
Is it all aesthetic?
Because one day you're going towake up and you're going to
look better, yeah, so then whatthen?
Why are you doing love that andI think, just digging that like
piece, like when we help peopleon the financial side too?
It's like I want to own, youknow, 10 properties and I want
to retire at 45 and, you know,quit my W2 job and all those
(56:20):
things.
That sounds great, but why doyou really want to do it?
I love that what is it Becausedo you hate your job?
That's a whole different thingthat we need to discuss, right?
Or you love your job but youwant to spend more time with
your family or whatever?
Like we can solve that and putyou on a track to hit that, as
(56:41):
long as you know why you'redoing it Because I can sell you
a property or put you into aportfolio that is going to make
you the money and the returnsthat you want to make.
But I can't solve for yourpurpose, like why you actually
want to accomplish this thing.
I think that's like game change.
Well, Dr Lindsay, I reallyappreciate it.
(57:01):
I'm just going to call you Docnow.
Dr. Lindsey Johnson (57:05):
Thanks for having me.
Addison Thom (57:07):
Where can people find you on social media website
?
How do we get a hold of you?
Dr. Lindsey Johnson (57:12):
uh, my social media is a on instagram
love black.
Wellness is is a great way um.
Of course.
We have infinity wellnesscenter and pure health as well
on there awesome.
Addison Thom (57:22):
Thank you so much yes, thank you yeah.
Welcome to another episode of the Wealth Blueprint
.
Today my guest is Dr
Dr. Lindsey Johnson (00:05):
Lindsey
Addison Thom (00:05):
Johnson.
Dr Johnson is a doctor ofchiropractic health and she
specializes in health andwellness with acupuncture,
peptides, ivs and really justsolutions and habits for daily
financial health and long-termlongevity.
So I'm really inspired by herstory, her mindset, what a
(00:25):
beautiful soul that she is and Ihope you guys learn a lot from
this episode.
Here is Dr Lindsay Johnson.
Like, is that funny to you whenpeople throw around their title
(00:46):
?
Yes, yes, like, what's what'snormally your reaction to that?
Dr. Lindsey Johnson (00:51):
it's annoying.
I don't, yeah, I don't, I don'tknow I it's not necessary, yeah
it's kind of like a statusthing you're like I guess,
attorneys are doctors too right,they have a jurist doctorate.
Well, physical therapists are.
I mean, there's so many indifferent, you know everybody is
.
And then you have yourInstagram doctors.
(01:12):
Instagram doctors, I mean youknow just people that are like
hey, do this and this.
Addison Thom (01:18):
Yeah, I follow a couple of those.
I mean, I think it's reallyeasy to kind of figure out who's
got your best interest.
Dr. Lindsey Johnson (01:26):
Yeah.
Addison Thom (01:26):
Who's like trying to sell you a supplement or you
know something silly, but you'rea doctor in chiropractor.
Dr. Lindsey Johnson (01:34):
Yes, okay so, doctor of chiropractic, I
have a specialty in acupuncture.
Okay so yeah, gotcha, and yourhusband's a doctor.
Addison Thom (01:42):
He's a chiropractor, also Chiropractor
as well.
Dr. Lindsey Johnson (01:43):
Yes, okay.
Addison Thom (01:45):
So I want to start off with that, because we
talked about this a little bit.
But I've been to a chiropractor.
I've never had like a long-termrelationship with adjustments
or anything like that.
I think there's a lot ofinformation out there that
supports chiropractic health.
Yeah, and then there's also alot of information out there
(02:05):
that supports chiropractichealth, and then there's also a
lot of information out therethat like this is you know,
snake oil, it's ineffective,it's blah, blah, blah.
So I want to jump into thatbecause and most people don't
know this but, like, my wife isa huge convert to you and your
company and it's made a hugedifference in her life, and so I
(02:28):
kind of just want to jump intothat why should you go see a
chiropractor first of all?
Let's start there.
What's the benefit?
And if I'm a first-timecustomer, what am I looking for?
Okay, customer.
Dr. Lindsey Johnson (02:45):
What, what?
Uh?
What am I looking for?
Okay?
Okay, what's really beautifulabout chiropractic is it is the
single most easiest way toaffect the nervous system and
make an influence on yournervous system.
So it you know, eight to 10% ofof the nervous system's
function is pain.
So that's so.
There's 90% of function that issending signals from your brain
(03:08):
to every single cell organsystem in the body, and we are
able to.
I don't even think of us as,like, spinal doctors.
I think of us as nervous systemdoctors.
The spine is the easiest way toaffect the nervous system and
so that's what we do.
We're checking the spine.
Everybody's spine looksdifferent, every single one.
(03:28):
We always take x-rays and it'samazing.
When you see it, you're likewait a second, this makes sense.
We all have traumas.
We all have stresses.
We have emotional, chemical andphysical stresses.
It affects our spine and itaffects our nervous system.
Our nervous system is whattakes in that info.
(03:48):
So any traumas that arehappening, the nervous system is
remembering that and then it'sharder to adapt to stresses.
So we constantly-.
Addison Thom (03:56):
So it's a cumulative effect.
It's a cumulative, yeah, okay.
Dr. Lindsey Johnson (04:00):
So the purest form you see of
chiropractic is in babies.
People are like why are weadjusting babies?
Whenever they're born, it is atrauma they're going through and
when you adjust them it's soimmediate the difference in how
they're feeding or how they'returning their head or how if
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they're fussy or any of that,you see it automatically and so
that's the purest form.
That's just like wow, um.
But later in life we have somany things that just start
accumulating, like you said, andwe cannot react to those, those
stresses as well.
And so then we get sick easier,um, we're tired, we have a lot
of fatigue, we um just illness.
(04:42):
I mean, we're just all thesesymptoms, gut health, all of it.
And so that's what we're doing.
We are looking at the person asa whole, going right, like
right to their nervous system,um, to help the, to help put the
influence in there, so it'll bemore efficient.
And we actually do nervoussystem scans, um stress scans on
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people and you can see exactlyhow you're adapting to those
stresses.
And it's really interesting tosee and it all makes sense.
When you see the, see all ofthis data.
It's really neat to see thisand you're like wait a second,
this all makes sense.
This is why I'm having gutissues, or this is you know so
how?
Addison Thom (05:23):
how is the scan or test or whatever like actually
qualifying that right?
What is it showing you that youcan see the nervous system and
how it's operating?
Dr. Lindsey Johnson (05:35):
So there's a couple of different ones.
One is a heart rate variability.
So it sees how your heart is.
You know, the heartbeat isadapting and if you're just
sitting there and you're relaxedand you have your hand in there
, you should the the heartbeatis adapting and if you're just
sitting there and you're relaxedand you have your hand in there
, you should be good to go.
I mean, it should be really, youknow, in this like
parasympathetic mode it shouldjust be rest and digest kind of
mode and it'll show on the graphlike how is this changing and
(05:59):
why?
So?
Why are you not adapting well?
And it'll that diagram.
And so that's one of them.
And we see it over time, likewe keep re-scanning, and you can
see this dot move on the chartto where, literally, that number
is getting better withchiropractic, and then we have
like a temperature scan as well.
(06:21):
We should have a balance oneach side.
There shouldn't be differencesin, so that'll show you kind of
where the inflammation is, orwhere the the pool is in the
muscles, um, and so there's yeah, that's just kind of how it's.
Addison Thom (06:34):
There's one other one and but there's yeah, kind
of how it's getting the data andI mean I, I'm a believer in
like the cumulative effect oflifestyle habits, of that too.
Right.
So you know, sleep, cortisol,stress, your diet, like all of
those things are adding up too.
So when you're seeing thoseitems, are you helping clients
(06:55):
with like preventative care,like hey, make some other
adjustments with diet, or that'sthe thing.
Dr. Lindsey Johnson (07:01):
It can't be all on us, yeah, and they have
to be ready to change and readyto do their part too.
There's so much involved in itand I think we're so accustomed.
I didn't even get adjusted whenI was a kid.
I'm kind of mad about that now.
I was like wait, I could havebeen adjusted this whole time.
We're so used to reactive care.
(07:21):
We're used to reactive care.
We're used to that.
We're used to wait tillsomething happens and then let's
go get this medication or getthis surgery or whatever.
That's great for when it'sthere, but if we're only relying
on that I've seen it, I've seenit on both sides personally
having to do medication and allthat you get all the side
(07:42):
effects and you get all of thesethings, and so that's where
this comes in.
It's more taking care of itbefore.
Addison Thom (07:51):
Yeah, all of that.
So, from chiropractic care ingeneral, how much can you hope
to improve through just thatcare?
If you were to make no otheralterations in lifestyle and
just through chiropractic care,what have you seen as far as
like success stories, um, orimprovements that you, you guys
(08:13):
like this is a success?
Dr. Lindsey Johnson (08:15):
Well, so many.
But so I'm very results driven.
So anybody that comes in, Ialways tell them what's
interesting they can be.
They can get worse before theyget better.
It's bringing everything to thesurface.
It's letting the body recognizewait, there's something
actually going on and you mightnot feel anything.
There might be somebody thatcomes in.
(08:36):
They don't have any symptoms,they're like I don't, I don't
know why I'm here, but I want toget adjusted.
They might all of a sudden justhave soreness or just feel like
really tired after it orsomething like that.
It's bringing it to the surfaceand then it's starting to,
starting to, and then it's it'sgoing to accumulate over time to
(08:59):
make that change.
So if they weren't changinganything and they're just doing
chiropractic I go back toinfants when they don't have
stress is really going on.
They don't have a lot of things, you see it.
I mean you see this babyimmediately poop, almost always.
You see them.
We had one the other day.
(09:20):
He was super fussy, you couldtell he did not feel good at all
, and he came in and he justkind of had like the teary eye.
He just he was just, he waspitiful, he was not feeling good
.
And so my husband is one thatadjusted him.
In the middle of the adjustmenthe just suddenly just relaxed.
He just suddenly did, and by thetime they left he was just good
(09:40):
to go, and so that's like thepurest form of actually just
seeing this difference.
But with adults we have so muchaccumulated junk in our body
and so it takes time to see thatdifference.
This isn't um.
I always tell people it tookthat this long to get where you
(10:01):
are right now.
It's going to take some time tokind of bring you back but yeah
, we didn't get here overnight.
Yeah, yeah and no, I mean, youabsolutely can.
We have people.
So we've been in practice for15 years.
We have people that still comefrom, literally like our first
patients that ever were there,and they come either weekly or
every other week.
(10:21):
Yeah, and they see those.
They just.
It's a lifestyle change thatyou know.
You feel You're just betterable to adapt to stresses.
Yeah, it's pretty cool.
I was trying to think ofanother story for you or like a
specific story, but I'll have tothink on it.
But there are so many, so manycool things.
Addison Thom (10:41):
Yeah, I mean in my own, like personal fitness
journey too.
I mean I've tried so manythings and I think going back to
like almost not Old Testament,but like just what you put in
your body is like what your bodyis going to produce.
Dr. Lindsey Johnson (11:00):
Yeah.
Addison Thom (11:01):
Right.
So I think diet is by farnumber one, because yeah I
changed my diet.
You know you lose weight,inflammation goes down.
Can you talk a little bit aboutthat on, like just gut health
in general and like how that,how you see that manifesting
itself, um, in increasedcortisol levels?
(11:21):
You know inflammation, nervoussystem like you know
inflammation, nervous system.
Like you know you werementioning that the chiropractic
side of things, you know, canhelp that.
So what are you seeing on that?
You know American diets arenotorious for being extremely
unhealthy, so so inflammation is, is our killer.
Dr. Lindsey Johnson (11:43):
It is an inflammation.
I truly think the root cause ofso much illness is stress I
talk about all the time, butstress is the root cause, I
really think.
But then you have, inflammationis what just sits in our body
and makes us more sick and makesus uncomfortable and have pain,
but in the gut, the same, youknow, um, and so a lot of the
(12:04):
foods like you're talking aboutthings that people eat causes
that inflammation, and so that'sjust so counteractive to that.
But gut health has a lot to dowith hormones and just how your
um, how, what am I trying to say?
Your um attitude, how you feel,is I mean what I'm trying to
say?
Your attitude, how you feel.
Addison Thom (12:29):
What am I trying to say?
Dr. Lindsey Johnson (12:32):
It can cause depression, anxiety, all
that if your gut is not in check.
I think there's so much to dowith gut health in particular.
Addison Thom (12:38):
Yeah, and the first time I went to see a
chiropractor I mean, this islike an anecdotal story, but I
kept throwing my back out, likelifting weights, first because I
was, you know, in my latetwenties and thought that
there's no reason to do this,but like I was never going to
make the Olympic weightliftingteam.
So, like, why am I trying todeadlift 600 pounds, Right?
(13:00):
Um, so that's where it started.
And then jujitsu uh, I wascompeting in jujitsu and I, you
know, you're just gettingtwisted up and you're not,
you're not rehabbing correctly,Right?
So your body is just kind oflike.
I don't know just tense all thetime.
But the biggest change that Inoticed I went to a chiropractor
(13:21):
and that helped.
It helped alleviate, like youknow, the impact of my disc and
like stretching me out, and Ifelt better after I left, but it
wasn't preventing me from doingit again.
And then what I found is Ichanged my diet, first of all,
and so my inflammation levelswent way down, yes, and then
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really strengthening like myhamstrings, my glutes and my
lower back, like just throughworking out and I was doing way
less weight, but like very slow,eccentric, and strengthening
those muscles in your hipsbecause we sit down all day.
So that's part of the problemtoo.
So that made a huge difference.
(14:03):
I haven't hurt my back since ofthe problem too.
So that made a huge difference.
I haven't hurt my back sincethen.
But I would like reach down toget like a bottle of shampoo in
the shower and then all of asudden, my back would like pop
out of place and I'd be likeTracy, come get me.
Dr. Lindsey Johnson (14:15):
I need to help.
Addison Thom (14:17):
So you know, I think it is a big cumulative
effect.
Right, it's like you have tochange the diet, you have to
strengthen your body throughresistance training.
You know, yoga, stretching,whatever and then adding in
chiropractic, like not one ofthose things is going to cure
you, right, right.
(14:37):
It's like how do you createthese lifestyle habits?
Yeah, and then when you add inacupuncture, what?
What is the intention of that?
I know virtually nothing aboutthat.
I think the concept and youtell me how stupid I sound I
think the concept is that youwant to bring blood flow to a
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certain area because your bloodcan heal a lot of the muscle
tissue or like inflammation inthat area by drawing attention
to it but what?
what's the?
It's been around.
What?
Dr. Lindsey Johnson (15:10):
thousands of years forever you know, it
was the first form of healthcare ever acupuncture yes, yeah,
and so for me to even be doingit.
It's just.
I'm full of gratitude for that.
It's so neat, um.
So there's something to it yeah, it's been around forever.
And you know some people arenot into chiropractic so much
but they are very much intoacupuncture.
Addison Thom (15:30):
You know there are Well that's part of like
treating the patient instead ofthe cause.
Right, it's like what are youresponding to?
Because you could dochiropractic care every day and
not get better, but then all ofa sudden you introduce
acupuncture and they're likeholy, I felt so much better.
Dr. Lindsey Johnson (15:45):
And actually Matt and I do that a
lot.
He might be seeing somebody andthey're doing great, but then
they have, they get stuck, theyget something happened to the,
probably in their life.
You know, something is reallymaking them stagnant.
He'll say, go to go getacupuncture and it's like a full
body reset.
It'll reset them back.
But what I can say is, ifyou're doing both, you get
better faster.
I tell people that I watch ithappen.
(16:06):
You get better faster, you getyour goals faster.
But acupuncture we run onenergy.
We have energy channels in thebody and just like if there's a
construction roadblock and carscan't get through.
Well, that's how it is with ourenergy channels.
They get stagnant and it's fromthe stresses as well, and so we
(16:27):
put needles in specific pointsand it helps that flow start
again.
Well, that's connected toeverything in the body the
circulatory system, the nervoussystem, all that and it's
releasing hormones, bringing theblood circulation to certain
areas and just telling the bodyhey, let's heal on it on our own
.
Addison Thom (16:45):
Basically, yeah so that's yeah interesting and so,
but what?
What's causing the healing?
Dr. Lindsey Johnson (16:53):
your own.
You're putting back, taking outthe stagnation.
Okay, putting it's, it's anefficiency, it's making your
body run more efficiently, andyou, you know just, we have
stagnation in life, we just feelit, and so that's what it's
doing.
I mean, it's truly like, hey,whoa, let's get this all flowing
(17:13):
again.
You know.
Addison Thom (17:15):
Gotcha, yeah, yeah .
So it's like releasing waterfrom a dam.
Dr. Lindsey Johnson (17:19):
Yes, that's how I think.
Yes, that's exactly how I thinkabout it Interesting.
Addison Thom (17:22):
I definitely want to try that.
Dr. Lindsey Johnson (17:23):
Yeah.
Addison Thom (17:25):
I would be open to doing chiropractic stuff too,
especially when I'm gettingolder.
Man, just sleep too.
I'll wake up and my neck isstuck.
I have this bro mentality ofit's fine, you just have to go
(17:47):
work out harder and then it'llget better.
But sometimes it never getsbetter, like I've had this issue
with my neck.
I popped it maybe six monthsago on my right side and I can't
extend my neck all the way backon my right side like it just
popped or you popped it no, I,this is how old I am it just
(18:08):
yeah, I just yeah.
I literally woke up in themorning, yeah, okay, and I went
to stretch like you're likeyawning, yeah stretching and for
whatever reason, I was justlike oh yeah, like this like oh
you know, and my neck just wentclink, clink and like seized up.
Dr. Lindsey Johnson (18:23):
Yeah.
Addison Thom (18:24):
So I don't know, I don't know if it's my energy
field, or I'm just old now, orwhat's going on.
Well, degeneration is happening, yeah.
Dr. Lindsey Johnson (18:33):
And you know what's scary is our kids.
They're on their iPads so much.
I mean we're two, but we didn'tstart at two.
They are going to have areverse neck, reverse curve, and
it's not good.
It's not good, yeah, it's notgood.
It puts so much pressure onthose nerves?
totally, it's not.
It's so.
That's one reason why kidsshould be in it.
That's number one reason theyshould be in adjusted.
But um but no.
(18:54):
You said earlier that you know,whenever you're working out a
lot and then you bent down andit just like went out, well,
that's what you have to worryabout in time.
That's what happens to to a lotof, especially guys.
They're not doing anything.
They're literally like tyingtheir shoe and all of a sudden
their back is out.
And they will.
They'll call us over theweekend, or it'll be like their
wife.
They'll text say can I get myhusband in?
(19:14):
I mean, he literally what didhe do?
Nothing.
Addison Thom (19:29):
He was just vacuuming or whatever.
You know something thing that Istarted noting, cause I've
thrown my back out probably 20times since the first injury
that I had, and sometimes it'sworse than others.
I mean, there was a one pointwhere I was working out at a
hotel in the Austin area and I'dbeen driving all day.
Every time I throw my back outit's from bad posture and
sitting for long periods of time, whether it's on an airplane or
like I watched football for sixhours on Sunday and then Monday
my back goes out, like notstanding up, not continuing to
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move.
Your hamstrings tighten up,your lower back tightens up.
All of that stuff happens andthen you know it takes nothing
and it just pops out of place.
So I was at this hotel inAustin.
I'd been driving all day.
I was like I need to get aworkout and I'll just feel
better.
So I was at this hotel inAustin.
I'd been driving all day.
I was like I need to get aworkout in, I'll just feel
better.
I did like three kettlebellswings and my back popped out
and I was like, oh man, thatfeels weird.
And my solution to that was Iwas going to dead hang from the
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pull-up bar, because of coursethat would help.
So I dead hang from the pull-upbar.
My whole back seizes up.
Okay, I couldn't get off thefloor.
I had to.
I crawled on my hands and kneesto the telephone in the gym.
I had to call the front desk.
I was like I need you to bringa wheelchair oh my gosh and then
I mean it was just bad.
Dr. Lindsey Johnson (20:37):
So I love guys solutions.
Addison Thom (20:38):
Sometimes it's so hilarious yeah, we're just gonna
we're so dumb that's amazing.
Well, you know, what I need todo is deadlift.
It'll straighten my spine backout.
That's hilarious but what I'venoticed is just I mean the diet
changing my diet, uh,prioritizing sleep, because when
you don't get sleep, you'rementioning, like resting heart
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rate, like if you have an applewatch or, uh, you know what are
those other things that peoplewear on their wrist?
Dr. Lindsey Johnson (21:06):
now you know what I'm talking about.
Yeah, yeah, I know what you'retalking about.
I don't know.
They're just whatever the heartrate monitors.
Addison Thom (21:12):
If you don't sleep well and you like wake up let's
say you had five hours of sleepyour resting heart rate is
going to be higher anyway.
Yeah, because your body is likenot well rested and it's trying
to like keep itself awake andpressing forward.
So if you prioritize that, thathelps.
And then I would always justsuggest to everybody to like
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prioritize your core and yourlower body.
That's another guy.
Move right, skip leg day ordon't prioritize leg day.
But the stronger your legs are,your glutes, your hamstrings
specifically, and your core, theless you're going to injure
yourself, especially as we getolder.
So you know I'm almost 40.
You know I'm like working inreverse now, trying to like make
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up for that.
Dr. Lindsey Johnson (21:56):
I swear.
When you turn 40, it's likethings change.
It's crazy.
Addison Thom (22:01):
It's crazy.
Dr. Lindsey Johnson (22:01):
Yeah, well, so you?
I don't know if you've everheard of AMIT.
This is another thing we do.
Like I said, like we lovechiropractic, we think it's the
base, but there's so many thingsthat help people and AMIT is
like you were saying.
All that.
I was like that's everythingMatt would be saying right now.
Core is everything.
It activates muscles that haveshut down.
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Coolest thing ever.
It's not an adjustment, it ismore of like an energy work, but
whenever you injure yourselfback in the day, it probably
shut down some of the coremuscles that you have and you
can reactivate those and then itdoesn't make you so vulnerable
to injury.
It's incredible.
Addison Thom (22:42):
And how do you do it?
Is it like a pulse thing?
There's a map system, and howdo you do it?
Is it like a pulse thing orwhat is it?
Dr. Lindsey Johnson (22:45):
There's a map system and so there's like
points on the body and you'reholding these and it's
interesting, it kind of hurts,it kind of it's tender at a
certain point.
Yeah, it's tender but it's work.
It's using lymphatic points,acupuncture points and then
particular points on thesemuscles.
But this doctor that startedthis is in Utah and he would see
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NBA athletes and it was um, I'mmad that I can't remember his
name Stockton Stockton had agame in the finals where he, he,
uh, he sprained his ankle bigtime, I mean it looked horrible
on screen.
He went back there.
Dr Buehler went back there anddid AMIT on him.
He was able to play the rest ofthe game.
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I mean, it looked like he brokeit.
He was able to go right backout there and play because he
activated these muscles, and sothat's where it all kind of
began.
Yeah.
Addison Thom (23:38):
It's incredible.
Dr. Lindsey Johnson (23:39):
That is great.
Addison Thom (23:39):
You know, the first time I heard that, I was
like that is so insane.
Yeah, like when you tellsomeone that it's so insane to
think that that's a solution foranything.
Dr. Lindsey Johnson (23:49):
I know You're like how is?
Addison Thom (23:50):
that even possible , and then you look into that
doc.
Didn't he like work for theOlympic Committee or?
Dr. Lindsey Johnson (23:55):
something?
I think so, and he like fixed,he did all kinds of things.
Addison Thom (23:57):
Yeah, yeah, so he's.
I know a couple friends thathave like really jacked their
shoulders up or whatever andgone to see him and the next day
they're out playing golf.
Dr. Lindsey Johnson (24:06):
So that's who we were trained by.
We went to Utah and we weretrained by him.
I mean, it's incredible work.
Addison Thom (24:12):
Yeah yeah.
It's crazy how the body likealmost everything you need is
already in your body.
Dr. Lindsey Johnson (24:18):
I know it's .
That's.
You said it perfectly, that'sexactly right.
Yeah, we said it perfectly.
That's exactly right.
Yeah, we're just bringing thatto the surface and letting your
body.
We're not, we are not treatinganything, healing anything.
It's your own body doing it.
Addison Thom (24:29):
Yeah, it's just taking out those interferences
yeah, you say something aboutlike acupuncture and there's
like thousands of years ofhistory of acupuncture being
used in eastern medicine andyeah being able to apply that to
today.
and then then you get to add onyou know advances in modern
medicine that help too.
So one one thing that's reallyhelped change my life,
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especially as I'm aging, ispeptides, right, yeah, you know
real popular ones NAD plus BPC157.
Can you just talk about likethe advancements in that and
what you've seen?
And again, I come to you as afirst time client, right, why do
I need to be on peptides?
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What are we looking for?
What's out there that can help?
Dr. Lindsey Johnson (25:14):
So peptides , you know it's.
We started bringing these backwhen we opened Pure Health in
2019.
A lot of people didn't knowabout it yet and now it's really
picking up more steam andthere's just more info about it.
But it is truly a naturallyoccurring.
It's a chain of amino acids,just small chains that tell our
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body different functions.
And it's what we have in ourbody, but because we age and
from stresses, we decrease itover time, and so when we can
supplement with it, it is soit's like-.
Addison Thom (25:52):
It's a game changer.
Dr. Lindsey Johnson (25:54):
It's like what is happening?
This is new age.
This is like a movie.
It's like how is?
Addison Thom (25:59):
this possible, that we can?
Dr. Lindsey Johnson (26:00):
take this stuff.
And so, yeah, the BPC-157 isgreat for healing for injuries.
You know all of that.
And then you have ipamrelinthat is great for leaning out
muscle, decreasing fat or sleep.
Even the ones that are forweight loss, they are actually
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like semaglutide andtrisempatide.
They're actually finding thatis decreasing inflammation in
the body as well.
So some MDs are even tellingtheir patients that have
inflammatory issues, hey, trythis out.
And so, yeah, it's just it'sincredible To have access to
that is yeah, and they keeptrying to kind of take it away
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from us sometimes and we're likeno, yeah, well, I remember
BPC-157 specifically was off theradar for a long time.
Addison Thom (26:51):
It just brought it back.
But I think a lot of that isthe way the American health
system is set up, where theywant you sick because then they
can sell you all these drugs andstuff.
Bpc-157 is such a some peoplecall it like the Wolverine drug
because you recover so quickly,because it reduces inflammation.
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But you know, pharma, big pharma, wants you to have inflammation
.
They don't want you to have.
They want all that build up sothat they can prescribe you.
You know, know, xyz, thatdoesn't really actually help you
and that that's been my feartoo about, like these
semi-glutide and um, because Ithink you need to treat the
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patient right and not just sellthings in mass to people.
And it seems like america islike drunk on glp-1s now yeah
right, like everyone's on it.
Can you talk a little bit aboutthat, like who should be on it?
What is it actually helping youhear all these like horror
stories too, of like, oh, I'mlosing bone density and, uh, my
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muscles going down, and like youknow, yep, what was its
original intention and whoshould actually be on it?
Dr. Lindsey Johnson (28:07):
It's an original intention was to help
people that were diabetic, thathelp with blood sugar regulation
and and I, I'm, I'm, and I'mnot great on the history of it
of exactly did they know it wasgoing to make them?
Help them lose weight as well?
I don't know, but um, it,absolutely.
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You have to have so muchprotein and I think a lot of
people aren't educated on it,and maybe some doctors
prescribing it they don't.
I don't know if they tell theirpatients or not, but they don't
because you can literally.
Addison Thom (28:39):
There's an instagram site that you can like
, a you know hemscom or whateveryou.
You can just go on there, do atelehealth concert console
that's five seconds long andthen they'll just prescribe you
a GLP-1.
That's like insane to me.
Which honestly Same thing Iwould say about like anything
Testosterone, hormonereplacement, any of that stuff.
You should not be getting thatin a five minute console without
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your blood work being done,without ongoing monitoring from
a healthcare professional oflike, hey, what's changing in
your body?
Because, just like we talkedabout earlier, it's not for
everybody.
You could take something and itgives you a way worse reaction,
or it could be like thesolution you've been looking for
for your whole life andeverybody's different.
Dr. Lindsey Johns (29:22):
Everybody's's different and we have to really
we have to take control of ourown what we're putting in our
body, and so we have to research.
It doesn't matter what we'represcribed, we have got to know
what could happen or what youknow, just know all the things,
and we can't really put that allon our doctors to like make
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sure we know every single thing,because our bodies can react
different, everybody's differentright um.
That's where the monitoringcomes into place, right, it's
like yeah for sure six monthslater?
Addison Thom (29:50):
hey, we need to check in, we need to pull your
blood panel again and just makesure.
Yeah, everything's good, right?
Dr. Lindsey Johnson (29:56):
um, but who should be on them?
It's really, it's, it's sodifferent.
You, you know, people areactually.
Are you talking about like theweight loss ones?
Addison Thom (30:08):
Just in general, like if you were gonna.
If you're a physician and youhave this tool in your tool
chest, you're not.
You're not using it for everytask, right?
So who are you looking to useit for?
Obviously, it helps with weightloss, but you also mentioned
inflammation.
Dr. Lindsey Johnson (30:27):
Yeah, so really I don't know how many
doctors are really prescribing,as much as it's more people.
I don't know but getting infoand saying wait, I don't want
that you know, because sometimesit's not treating.
I mean, you've you know wetalked about all the neat things
that it's doing.
So I think MDs are just nowgetting on board with it of
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telling clients about it.
But I think people are seekingit out that want leaner muscle
or want to heal better or wantthe weight loss too.
Some people are evenmicrodosing those peptides
because it helps with gut health.
It helps them feel better.
Addison Thom (31:11):
And it helps curb appetite yeah.
Dr. Lindsey Johnson (31:13):
It's actually really they're all so
great, but one can reactdifferent with somebody.
I mean, there's really very,very, very low side effects, but
there can be, yeah, I think,with anything, with anything,
with anything yeah.
Addison Thom (31:23):
Yeah, I think, with anything, with anything,
with anything, yeah, yeah, andthat's why I think it's so
important and I want your takeon this.
I mean, you and your husbandare, you know, mature parents.
You're running businesses, youknow you're obviously we're all
getting older and you guys havethese like lifestyles and habits
that are effective, soeffective.
(31:46):
So I want to get your insighton that.
But I think that it has to allstart with, like, the
fundamental of the habits youbuild Absolutely.
So it has to be based off ofnutrition first, what you're
putting in your body, eatingenough protein and some sort of
resistance training.
Dr. Lindsey Johnson (31:58):
Absolutely.
Addison Thom (31:58):
Period Whether it's once a week or three times
a week or whatever.
You don't have to be MrUniverse, but you need to.
If you can incorporate thosetwo things in your life and then
prioritize sleep, I think thatwill solve 70% of a lot of
people's problems.
Not having those habits andthose fundamentals in place.
And then doing what us asAmericans do, which is immediate
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gratification of like what usas Americans do, which is
immediate gratification of like,oh, I'll just take a GLP one,
or I'll just take a peptide, orthat's right.
That's what I think the insanityis that I think is the longterm
harm that could be caused.
It was like you and again thatgoes back to like you know we
have freedom of choice.
You know we're all our ownindividuals.
We can make those decisions.
But if you're making thatdecision without changing the
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other habits in your life, Ithink you're setting yourself up
for a lot of issues.
Dr. Lindsey Johnson (32:48):
You said that so well, because I cause, I
see it.
I see that with people,especially on the on the weight
loss peptides, they don't reallyget healthier because, yeah,
maybe they're, they've lost theweight, but now they have zero
muscle because they had, they'venever implemented and this
isn't everybody, this is just afew that, just if you don't make
those lifestyle changes, you'restill really the same person.
It's just a little less weightbut, yeah, they lose the muscle
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and it's like you said itperfectly and that's dangerous,
too, for longevity.
Addison Thom (33:18):
So, when you look at like all of these, one thing
I love about health and wellnessright now is there's so much
like acute data that's comingout about things that you can
change and what leads tolongevity and a healthy life
right, grip, strength, musclemass and basically your
equilibrium, like your balance,like having a strong core, being
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able.
So, as you're aging, right, ifyou're losing muscle mass, what
happens when you're 70 years old, slipping and falling is like
one of the number one causes ofdeath right, so that ends your
longevity, right there.
So, if you're not puttingyourself in a position to like,
hey, I need to do someresistance training, make sure
my balance is good and you'rejust taking these GLP-1s, that
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you're losing bone density,you're losing some muscle mass,
you're weaker at the end of theday, right, that's the end
result.
So I would just precaution.
Anyone like that's looking forlongevity specifically, and
that's the only thing I careabout now.
I'm almost 40 years old and Igot young kids.
I want to be running aroundwith them and my grandkids when
I'm in my seventies and eighties.
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Uh, I got a late start withthat, right, so I'm already kind
of like I'm going an old grandsame.
I'm like I hope I'm for mygrandkids.
Gosh, I'm yeah, so yeah.
So what are?
Like?
You know?
I think you and your husbandare a great example of how to be
extremely busy, because thoseare excuses I hear all the time
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too.
Dr. Lindsey Johnson (34:47):
Yeah, of like I don't have time to work
out that's right?
Addison Thom (34:51):
Well, you're sleeping in until 8 am first of
all, so why don't you wake up at6 and go get a half an hour
workout in Yep?
What are the habits and thingsthat you and your husband have
put in place?
And I think everyone that canrelate to this.
That's a parent right.
When you first have kids, it'schaotic right.
Your whole life changesovernight.
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Your schedule becomes theirs,not yours, but somehow during
that, you guys managed to, youknow, keep a healthy
relationship, parent your kids,run a company, stay in shape.
So what are those likefundamental habits that you guys
put together?
That's like, hey, these arenon-negotiables of like how do
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how do we get this done?
How do we accomplish everythingwe want to and be here?
Dr. Lindsey Johnson (35:39):
Honestly, number one is probably I mean
not number one, but very, veryimportant is exercise.
We and I'm I'm so glad thatMatt is also very passionate
about it too but I genuinelythink it saved my life through
all of my past history withhealth stuff and still to this
day, and what I've learned is weused to like every day Every
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day, even on vacation, we'regoing to work out.
We just love it.
We enjoy it Because it gives youenergy and it makes you feel,
and when you start to feel weakand you're just, how do you get
out, we just love it, we enjoyit, but because it gives you
energy and it makes you feel,and when you start to feel weak
and you're just, how do you getthrough the day?
So, um, but what I've learnedand this has been a hard lesson,
but once I turn 40 is I can'tgo and sin all the time now.
Addison Thom (36:21):
So recovery is as important recovery is, I'm all
about recovery.
Dr. Lindsey Johnson (36:25):
We can go there too.
I have figured that out becauseI yeah, I learned I cannot do
two days anymore.
I can't, I would, I would try,and then I don't need to work
out seven days a week or evenfive.
I could go down to three, fourand I'm good and I feel great.
Addison Thom (36:41):
Especially if your diet's in order.
Absolutely and you're not yeah.
Yeah, your days off should notbe like pizza and wing day every
day.
Your days off should not belike pizza and wing day every
day.
Right yeah, you got to stick tothe plan.
Dr. Lindsey Johnson (36:50):
You've got to and, of course, have balance
and all that I mean there'sgoing to be.
You know you've got to eat oncein a while, but truly, yeah, I
think that has been huge for us.
You know one thing, a habitthat we put in place, too, was
date nights.
I mean that was huge for us,and even was that was huge for
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us, and even you know what it'slike when you have like little
little ones.
I'm sure tracy was like I wouldhave days I'm exhausted, I don't
want to go on a date, I don'tfeel like it.
But we would and we would evenlike go uh, cycle or do
something you know active andfun, and but we still today I
mean he this morning he was, wassaying bye and he's like let's
do a date night tonight.
I'm like let's do that and Ithink we have to.
That has been so.
Addison Thom (37:36):
It's a game changer.
Dr. Lindsey Johnson (37:37):
It is a game changer and travel.
I know we get judged.
I know we do when we leave wehave to, like everybody knows,
all of our clients know.
But that has been huge for usto break away.
We come back stronger, we comeback with ideas.
We we can give 100 to ourclients because we have taken a
break with our family or withoutum, and so that has been huge.
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Um, another, I'm trying tothink it.
Well, I'm all about morningroutine, all about it.
I refuse, refuse to be in ahurry in the morning.
I want to wake up earlier thanmy kids is always good and just
really get mindset going for theday.
Addison Thom (38:16):
What's your morning routine?
Walk me through that.
Dr. Lindsey Johnson (38:19):
I like to wake up about five.
My kids would be like you don'tdo that every day.
I don't not every single day,but on the good days.
This is um, but yeah, I like toget up at five and I like to go
through affirmations, gratitudeI sometimes journal, it
sometimes journal things, um,but anything to do to get into
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the right mindset.
You know, gratitude brings ourvibration to the highest.
That's how we can get ourvibration really high to start
the day.
Um, so anything uh that I cando.
And then I love green tea, so Iget my, my cup of green tea and
, um, I love the sauna.
Sometimes we'll get in there.
Um, I did not work out untilabout 10.
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So I, I, I actually really usedto love getting up really early
and working out and getting itdone in the morning, but with
kids now I don't do that.
I do it a little bit later.
Addison Thom (39:11):
You got to get them out for the day.
Dr. Lindsey Johnson (39:13):
I have to get them out and then I could go
enjoy.
But I the best days are workoutdays, you know, and so get that
in.
But I think number one it'sit's getting mindset set for the
day, you know.
Addison Thom (39:25):
Yeah, I have a very similar setup and the two
crossover.
I mean I wake up at five.
That's the only time I havealone.
Yeah, exactly.
Until my kids wake up.
Dr. Lindsey Johnson (39:39):
Yeah.
Addison Thom (39:39):
So I'll make their lunch and get their breakfast
ready, but I have my coffee.
Usually read my Bible or I'mreading something else.
Dr. Lindsey Johnson (39:46):
Yeah.
Addison Thom (39:47):
And I'm setting my mindset for the day and looking
at my schedule and planning,like, hey, what do I want to
actually accomplish today?
I think that's huge and it's.
It's very similar to like thedate night with your wife, right
?
Even if you don't feel likedoing it, you guys are tired,
it's the end of the day, justthat, like we'll go to dinner
and then we'll go to likereflexology and just get like
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foot massages together.
Dr. Lindsey Johnson (40:10):
We love doing that.
That's amazing.
Addison Thom (40:11):
Because it's so good.
You put your phone down.
Sometimes we'll just sit thereand hold each other's hands and
not say anything and just likeoh my God, it's been a long day,
and just kind of de-stress andkind of soak in and think about
the day.
But other times we'll just sitthere and talk to each other for
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an hour.
That's the most conversationuninterrupted you're going to
have all week and that's sopowerful to like reset your
relationship, your connection,and I would encourage people to
do that with themselves.
Like that one hour in themorning, whether it's, you know,
scripture or um dailyaffirmations or whatever, that's
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a conversation with you, right,and you might have a
conversation with you and God,but it's like it's so important
to turn the mirror on yourselfand have a conversation with
yourself, of like being honestwith yourself about what you
want to accomplish, where youare in your life and what you
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plan on doing.
I think so many people, becauseof all the distractions that
are in the world you mentionediPads earlier and TV, and then
you have social media Like it'sso easy to distract yourself
from you.
You're distracting yourselflike away from your own mind and
your own heart, of like, hey, Ineed to check in with myself
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and be like let's get this, youknow, going.
So it's really interesting likea lot of successful and like
motivated people that I I talkwith.
Those schedules are very similaryeah, that's interesting you
know there's like alone time,whether it's in the sauna by
yourself or reading or whateverit is.
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They have to take that alonetime and they try to limit
distractions from outsideinfluences as much as possible.
It's very rare you ever meetanybody that's successful or
highly motivated.
That's like on TikTok all day,or like they never miss a game
on TV or whatever you know, whenyou meet those people, it's
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like what are you?
How do you do that?
Right?
Oh, you're not accomplishingthe thing that you promised
yourself you would do, right?
Dr. Lindsey Johnson (42:21):
You know, I tell people to schedule it too.
You know, schedule your time,whatever it is.
Addison Thom (42:25):
Well, while we were talking about mindset too,
and you had mentioned yourbattle with cancer and coming
through that kind of talk to me,I have never been through
anything like that, and I neverwant you to go through that
inspired by, just like your,demeanor.
It's so easy for people to bedown on themselves or crawl into
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a hole.
They crawl into a hole and likewoe is me kind of thing, yeah,
so what was your mindset whenall that happened?
How do you, how do you breakthrough that and how did how has
it changed you?
Just having that experience.
Dr. Lindsey Johnson (43:04):
It.
It was the most shockingobviously thing we've ever ever
thought we would go through.
It was the most shockingobviously thing we've ever
thought we would go through.
And so at first I was terrifiedand I was pissed and I was like
what is happening?
But I knew to get all of myfacts in line and I learned
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really quickly to take controland not, you know, you get told
no once in a while or nope, thisisn't going to work for you.
I refused to hear that kind ofthing.
If there was something thatdidn't feel right to me, then I
would get a differentconsultation with a different
doctor.
I went to Dallas for a lot ofstuff and I would really seek
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out answers and I also.
It happened really fast.
Once you find out somethinglike that, everything just rolls
out.
I mean, it's so quick and Ilearned very quickly.
That's actually when I reallystarted these morning routines.
Actually I'm sure I did some ofit before, but like intentional
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morning routines started then Icause you only go day by day.
You can't look past that.
It's like not even possible,and so I would have to center
and think of anything positive Icould think of, and I did.
I was.
I didn't focus on all of thebad.
I would think focus on howsupported I was, and so the
people around I mean my would.
I didn't focus on all of thebad.
I would think focus on howsupported I was, and so the
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people around I mean my husbandincredible, um, and so I would
just focus on that and focus onanything finding the right
doctors and finding the rightkind of treatments.
That that seemed right and um,and I would notice signs, like I
was.
We were in Dallas and we werejust about to do my double
(44:52):
mastectomy and I rememberlooking out the window.
We were at a restaurant and itsaid, what's the best that could
happen?
And I was like what's the bestcould happen?
What is?
I came out of that surgery inthat situation the best it could
have possibly been.
It's crazy.
No one has a great experiencewith that.
I truly I didn't have a badexperience at all Incredible
(45:13):
doctors, incredible experienceand I thought I think it's truly
because of mindset.
I followed this mindset of justwhat is the best way to get out
, what I mean why don't we focus?
Addison Thom (45:22):
Have you always been like that, or was there
like a point in your life thatyou made a conscious effort to
do that?
Because I don't think that'slike innate, I think there's
people that are optimistic right.
But, I don't think it's like apractice that you know if you're
just like naturally optimistic,sometimes you're like foolish
in your optimism right.
So, like, was there somethingthat happened where you're like
(45:45):
I'm going to make a real efforton my mindset?
I think it was that.
Dr. Lindsey Johnson (45:49):
Really I think I've always been positive
and thinking of the positive,but I think that was the moment
that I learned you have controlof it and if you don't, it will
be the worst experience.
That was the worst experience,anyways, it could have been a
million times worse if I wouldhave not had the right mindset.
I have great memories from thattime.
(46:10):
That is so bizarre.
I would go on walks with yourwife.
I mean I loved having thosewalks.
I mean it's just there was somuch good to take from it and I
am a better doctor now.
I truly think I'm moreempathetic, I can help people
more and I I truly take thatexperience as something.
(46:31):
I just needed to go.
I was meant to go through itand, um, to help others later.
Addison Thom (46:36):
I mean I really think that, so yeah, so you
weren't making a consciouseffort really before that.
You were trying to remainpositive, but it seems like this
situation forced your hand alittle bit right.
Dr. Lindsey Johnson (46:50):
Yeah, where , like the alternative is like
it's like, which way are yougoing to go?
Addison Thom (46:52):
Yeah, alternative is doom and gloom, totally.
Dr. Lindsey Johnson (46:55):
Yep.
Addison Thom (46:55):
So for like people out there that may be going
through something like this orjust are struggling with mindset
in general, what are the thingsthat helped you to like develop
that muscle?
Because I doubt that, like dayone of you got a cancer
diagnosis, you're like, oh, Ihave all the tools to like help
my mindset Right.
So what helped you with that?
How do?
You how do you strengthen thatmuscle?
Dr. Lindsey Johnson (47:17):
Well, I remember I was given a gratitude
journal.
I'd never had that gratitudejournal.
You know, they gave me agratitude journal and I remember
opening that and I that's whatI that's where it all began.
I started that in the morningand I was I would just write.
I, that's where it all began.
I started that in the morningand I was I would just write,
you know it out, what I wasgrateful for.
That was the easiest becausethat guides you, you know, in a
(47:37):
way, to write things.
And then I, when I had thisjournal, then I would write down
um affirmations from that andstart writing them out and um,
you, our, our mind, talks toevery cell in our body and I
there's so much I've done withthis.
I've done a lot of work withmindset um, because fear can
(47:57):
take us over, and it canabsolutely make us more sick,
and so I've had to do a lot ofwork, but that's where it all
began, was really.
I think it was that simplething, yeah, really simple, um,
and I mean you're're, you're bigin faith as well.
I think that it's that was whenI truly, um have found my true
(48:21):
connection with god as wellduring that time, and that was
really.
I've always been, uh, I'vealways been, you know, raised in
a church and all of that.
But to truly experience thefeeling of letting go I don't
have control, I leave it to youand he got me out of the
situation immediately Was likewhat?
(48:43):
So that was huge.
It was so many huge moments.
Addison Thom (48:47):
Yeah, that's beautiful to hear and I think
that a lot of people have thatexperience too.
Just with faith.
right, it's like you're you growup in the church you're kind of
just like following directionfrom your parents exactly um and
even attending church and I'vehad a kind of like an epiphany
with this too of like going tochurch is like you could just be
(49:12):
attending a theology class at acollege, because what's
happening at church is they'relike reading the scripture and
interpreting it to you ortelling you like, hey, these are
the things you need to obey,right?
The real connection with godand the real connection with
your own faith is the action you, the actions you take from that
.
It's not enough just to go,take in the information and like
(49:34):
, oh, I feel a little bit better, the worship service was so
great and I got to sing and putmy hands up.
That's not the connection.
What the requirement of you isis to take action with that
information.
So, even when you're saying, youknow, I gave it to God, you did
, but you also took action.
You also woke up and youdecided consciously, like I am
(49:56):
going to give this to God, butI'm also going to help myself in
my own mental.
You know, god's job is not tolike save you from your own
stupidity, it's to hey, I gaveyou all these tools to do
something with.
I trust that you're going toalso use those too, and I think
that's such an importantconnection that you need to make
Exactly.
Um really even just in yourmindset, if you're not open to
(50:21):
Christianity or learning moreabout that and you just want to
improve your life from that.
I think there's so many lessonsthey can learn from listening
to your story and just hey, Ineed to start my day off with
positive affirmation and gettingyour brain chemistry to a place
like that's what it's feedingoff of, because we can easily
(50:42):
feed off of the food ofnegativity to your brain, can't
right?
Dr. Lindsey Johnson (50:46):
isn't that insane that your brain is like
yeah, you get endorphins fromboth yeah, isn't that amazing
isn't that kind of gross and whydo people always want to?
Addison Thom (50:55):
tell you the negative right I mean they love
it I.
I think it's avoidance.
I think it's avoidance ofthemselves.
I think that's why gossipexists.
I think that's why judgingother people exists, because
it's avoidance of yourself, it'savoidance of the conversation
that you're having in your ownhead.
Yeah, and if you can escapethat, make someone else feel a
little bit lower, um, or makeyou yourself feel a little bit
(51:19):
better from you know a toughtime somebody else is going
through.
You get to avoid all of the ownstuff that's taking place with
you.
Yes, and I, and there is somesort of brain like, if you think
about that, the relief fromyourself if you're unhappy with
who you are yeah the relief fromyourself is an endorphin.
(51:41):
I get to talk trash about DrLindsay and, um, you know, or
her kids are misbehaving and I'mnot the parent that I want to
be, so I get to judge her forhow she parents her kids or
whatever, and I just get thatlittle break from myself of like
I'm disappointed in me.
Dr. Lindsey Johnson (51:58):
I've never even thought about it that way.
I like it, I like yeah.
Addison Thom (52:02):
I agree, stop it.
Yeah, don't do that.
Well, I really appreciate youbeing here.
I'd love to have you on moreand I'd like to actually talk
more and maybe even have yourhusband on too, separately and
get his opinion also.
But as things are maturing inthis health and wellness space,
(52:23):
I think that people couldmassively benefit from it.
I think they could benefit fromjust having a conversation with
you, massively benefit from it.
I think they could benefit fromjust having a conversation with
you.
I would recommend to anyone,especially over the age of like
35, is you should just youshould start with your blood,
get a blood panel done, see whatyou're deficient in, see what
can kind of like put you ontrack.
(52:44):
And, you know, meet with DrLindsay and Infinity Wellness
and also Pure Health right, purehealth is the IV peptide side
and infinity wellness is thechiropractic.
Yes, awesome, I woulddefinitely start there and just
see, like, what adjustments nopun intended, or maybe uh that
you can make in your own lifeand and um, solve, solve those
(53:09):
issues.
Dr. Lindsey Johnson (53:09):
You know, I always talk about a lot of
things.
I do, you know, I try alldifferent things, and so people
will come to me and say what doI start with?
I don't want anybody to thinkthey have to do it all, and
everybody's different.
And so I do consults that it'lljust talk about it.
Let's figure out what would begreat for you.
You know, and everybody'sdifferent.
Addison Thom (53:36):
Well, I think that's another great thing to
point out.
So, like my wife is, uh,definitely guilty of this and I
make fun of her for it.
But like she'll try like fivethings at one time, right of
like hey, methylene blue andthis peptide and chiropractic
adjustments and acupuncture andreflex all or whatever it is
right, and I'm like how do youknow which one of those things
is making the benefit?
Dr. Lindsey Johnson (53:55):
Yeah.
Addison Thom (53:55):
Right Now you could say the shotgun approach
is great and you just feelbetter, so just stick with that.
But like, how would yourecommend someone go on that
health journey, like from startto finish, like I sit down with
you, walk me through thatprocess, like what, what does
that look like?
Dr. Lindsey Johnson (54:13):
Okay, you're not going to like this
first answer, but truly,whenever I talk to people, I'm
like if you would just startwith chiropractic, we go from
there Like even if you don'tdecide to do chiropractic, but
it is way more, I get to payattention to like how things are
changing and it's just morevery much a you have somebody
watching over how's everythinggoing and then, but anyways, if
(54:35):
not, I just we, I see what theirgoals are.
It's all about goals.
What is your goal?
Is it longterm or short term?
Is it pain?
Is it fatigue?
Is it what is it?
And then it might be ozone.
When you're sick and notfeeling well, that's the best
thing ever.
If you're not feeling well, itmight be an IV to pep you back
up.
Or if you're having a run,having a race soon, but it might
(54:55):
be AMIT, you know, for pastinjuries, and so there's.
I would just sit with somebodyand say what are your goals?
And this is how I would guideyou, you know to each of them.
You don't need to do all thisstuff at the same time, but this
might depend on what's going on.
Addison Thom (55:10):
Can I make a suggestion on that?
Dr. Lindsey Johnson (55:12):
Yeah.
Addison Thom (55:14):
This changed our business life monumentally.
Tell me, Goals are fleetingthings Because when you reach
them unless you have the othergoals set up, the real
difference maker is why do youwant to do those things and
learning from those people likeI want to fix my shoulder, Okay,
(55:34):
why?
Dr. Lindsey Johnson (55:35):
Why I love that?
Because it hurts.
Addison Thom (55:37):
Okay, well, think 20 years from now, right, why?
Because I want to pick up mygrandkids, because I want to,
you know, be able to golf everyday, because I want to like, if
you really extract that, that isthe fruit, I truly believe, of
people accomplishing the goal Ilove that it's like why do you
want it?
Why do you?
Dr. Lindsey Johnson (55:55):
want to get in shape, yeah, why do?
Addison Thom (55:57):
you want to be healthy?
Why do you want to eat better?
Why do you?
Is it all aesthetic?
Because one day you're going towake up and you're going to
look better, yeah, so then whatthen?
Why are you doing love that andI think, just digging that like
piece, like when we help peopleon the financial side too?
It's like I want to own, youknow, 10 properties and I want
to retire at 45 and, you know,quit my W2 job and all those
(56:20):
things.
That sounds great, but why doyou really want to do it?
I love that what is it Becausedo you hate your job?
That's a whole different thingthat we need to discuss, right?
Or you love your job but youwant to spend more time with
your family or whatever?
Like we can solve that and putyou on a track to hit that, as
(56:41):
long as you know why you'redoing it Because I can sell you
a property or put you into aportfolio that is going to make
you the money and the returnsthat you want to make.
But I can't solve for yourpurpose, like why you actually
want to accomplish this thing.
I think that's like game change.
Well, Dr Lindsay, I reallyappreciate it.
(57:01):
I'm just going to call you Docnow.
Dr. Lindsey Johnson (57:05):
Thanks for having me.
Addison Thom (57:07):
Where can people find you on social media website
?
How do we get a hold of you?
Dr. Lindsey Johnson (57:12):
uh, my social media is a on instagram
love black.
Wellness is is a great way um.
Of course.
We have infinity wellnesscenter and pure health as well
on there awesome.
Addison Thom (57:22):
Thank you so much yes, thank you yeah.
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