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May 11, 2025 92 mins

Ian and Page, your two favorite store-brand English professors, have put together a syllabus for reading our way to an understanding of the 21st Century.

Today's episode is about the books 2000 wants you to remember. We get into Dan Brown, John Grisham, George Saunders, and Helen DeWitt. We get caught up in the limbo that is time talking about a pope who was alive when we recorded. (And you get to hear Chris's voice giving us a little real-time update.) We also discuss how the year 2000 helped to create America's obsession with the "Deep State" and how it was a better time for America's greatest export: Straight White Men with Opinions.

Subscribe to get our May 25 episode where we talk about the year 2000's legacy of camp in the year 2025. We get into: The Substance, Gladiator II, Tacky: Essays by Rax King, and "On Camp" by Susan Sontag.

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Our thanks to Chris Delano for editing (and fact-checking) support. Music: "MTV (Pop, Britney Spears)" from BigBadBeats.

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