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May 15, 2025 60 mins

Join Nathan Dunleavy on this episode of Yappy Hour as he welcomes Carrie-Anne Selwyn, the founder of Canine Hoopers World. Discover how the inclusive and low-impact dog sport, Hoopers, is transforming the way dog guardians connect with their pets.

Carrie-Anne shares her journey from pet dog trainer to international Hoopers advocate, the benefits of Hoopers for all breeds and ages, and how anyone can get started with minimal equipment. Whether you’re looking for a fun activity, a confidence builder for reactive dogs, or a new way to bond with your pup, this episode is packed with insights and practical advice.

Listen in to learn how Hoopers can be practised casually at home or competitively, and how it fosters trust, focus, and teamwork between dogs and their guardians.

Tune in now to find out why Hoopers is the perfect sport for every dog, no matter their size, age, or ability!

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(00:00):
Welcome to the Yappy Hour, poweredby Yappily the podcast for dog lovers
who want to better understand andconnect with their four-legged friends.
I'm your host Nathan Dunlevy, and today weare diving into one of the most excitable
and accessible dog sports out there.
Hoopers.

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My guest is Carrie Ann Selwyn,the founder of Canine Hoopers
World, a platform dedicated tomaking hoopers a fun and inclusive
activity for dogs and their humans.
In this episode, we explore why hoopersis the perfect sport for all breeds.
Ages and abilities, how it strengthensthe bond between dogs and their

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guardian guardians, and how you canget started even in your own backyard.
Whether you've got a highenergy pup, a senior dog, or
just want to try something new.
This episode is packed withinspiration and practical advice.
So grab a cup of tea, settlein, and let's get started.

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Welcome back to the Yappy (01:06):
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Hour, powered by Yappily.
I'm your host, Nathan Dunleavy,and I'm so excited to bring
you another episode today.
Even more exciting that we've got theQueen of Sparkle herself, Carrie Anne
Salwyn, from Canine Hoopers World.
I'm so excited to have Carrie on todayit's going to be such a fun episode.

(01:30):
So Carrie Anne, welcome to the Appy Hour.
As I've said, I'm so excitedto chat with you today.
How are you doing?

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (01:39):
am super.
I'm really good today.
Thank you very much.
How are you?
I

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Wow, I've had a few tech (01:44):
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gremlins today and me and tech.
Do not go well.
Give me people in dogsany day, but give me tech.
I was recording with Dr.
Conor Brady this morning and itwas all going a bit Pete Tong.
But we've man, I've been on with RosieRobinson the last hour and a half from
Yappily trying to get this sorted.
So, so far, so good.

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (02:07):
mean, I feel like you've invited a
chaos goblin onto your podcast.
So this is possibly why everything'sgoing a little bit wrong.
Harry's

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (02:16):
Right.
We'll see how we get on anyway.
So Carrie, is it Carrie Anne?
Carrie, what do you prefer?

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (02:22):
fine.

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Carrie, right. (02:22):
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Carrie-Anne Selwyn (02:24):
but we'll just go with Harry.

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (02:26):
Carrie, for those who might not be familiar
with Hoopers, I dunno how, can you giveus a quick overview of what it is and
how it differs from other dog sports?
Like agility?

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (02:38):
So Hoopers is a It's a sport but it's an activity.
The reason I love Hoopers is thatall the dogs can get involved.
So it is a series of obstacles and thedogs navigate a course and I bet people
are thinking this sounds like agility.
The difference with Hoopers,they're are no jumps.

(03:02):
no kind of leaving thefloor type obstacles.
Everything is either they run through it,they run past it, or they run onto it.
So from that point ofview, it's lower impact.
If you watch Viper, Viper makes itlook very exciting and fast, but the

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dogs don't have to go fast to do it.
Vee's been doing, so Viper is my Malinois

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: I was about to say that. (03:29):
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Yeah.
Viper.

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (03:31):
she has

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (03:32):
Wow.

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (03:33):
introduced to the hoops and the kind of equipment
we use since she was about eight,nine weeks old, just as stuff.
my old dog, who's now 13, with one eyeand a bit of arthritis and not many teeth
left, also still plays a bit as well.
So I have kind of the two extremesof dog in, size, and energy levels.

(03:56):
The SAS level isidentical in both of them.
But the thing I love with Heepersis just all the dogs can do it
and you don't need loads and loadsof room to practice bits at home.
You can practice bits in your living room.
So

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (04:09):
Yeah.
Absolutely love that.
So we'll be learning a little bit moreabout that as we go through this episode.
So Carrie, what inspired you to createCanine Hoopers World and bring this sport,
this activity to more dog guardians?

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (04:23):
So for me, I Discovered this sport back in like
2017, I think it was that I firstkind of went, Oh, what's this thing?

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (04:33):
Yeah.

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (04:34):
It looked cool.
And then I did a few instructor coursesand I found that they were quite tailored
to people that were already doing agility.
And coming from the pet dog world,

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (04:45):
Yeah.

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (04:46):
I didn't have an agility background.
So I wanted to create a coursedog trainers so they could
teach it to their clients.
Feeling like they had to be asport dog handler, you know, I

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (04:59):
Yeah.

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (05:00):
be more accessible.
And the best way to make Saint moreaccessible is to teach trainers
how to teach their clients.
Because rather than me teaching 15,20 people a week, if I can teach.
instructors then they can teach20 people a week and actually now
we've got over 600 instructors

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: That's amazing. (05:21):
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That's

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (05:23):
loads of

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (05:24):
amazing.

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (05:24):
access to hoopers.

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Yeah, I absolutely love that. (05:26):
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I love that it's so worldwide.
So we're going to be movingon to our next section then.
So, which is all about why Hoopers, thebenefits for dogs and their guardians.
One of the things I love aboutHoopers is that it's so accessible.
We've mentioned that already.
So just touching on theaccessibility side of things.
Why do you think?
It's such an inclusive sportcompared to other activities.

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (05:50):
I feel like not only about the dogs kind of thing, but
also thinking about the handler side ofit, because Hoopers, you can distance
handle, which is kind of the big goal withHoopers, or you can run with the dogs.
So if you have little younglingscome to class that want to run
around with the dogs, that's cool.

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If you've got adults that careto run, they can also do that.
I mean, I don't care for running,

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: The same. (06:18):
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I

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (06:20):
And I love the fact that if you've got handlers.
are maybe wheelchair users or to usea walking aid of some description.
They can still be handlingHoopers without worrying about
having to keep up with the dog.

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: love that. (06:38):
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Carrie-Anne Selwyn: have fun with their dog. (06:39):
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Also, we've had some dogs that areactually assistance dogs for wheelchair
users that kind of use Hoopers as a bit ofan outlet for them to do things as a team.
without them being close to the chairand working closely with the handler.
It gets them to kind of work away andmaybe tap into some of the genetic

(06:59):
things that we've bred the gun

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (07:01):
Yeah.

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (07:02):
herders to do for years and years,

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (07:04):
Yeah.

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (07:04):
know, because we have a lot of retrievers and
Labradors that are assistance dogs.
And actually.
They're working close to theirhandlers a lot, whereas when we look
at what they were originally bred for,they're designed to kind of work away.
So Hooper's is quite a nice bridgebetween that genetic need and what the
handler is physically capable of as well.

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Yeah, absolutely love that. (07:26):
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No, it's great thateveryone can get involved.
So many people assume that dog sports areonly for your high energy working breeds,
but Hooper seems to be for everyone.
So what makes it so different?

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (07:41):
I mean, I started originally with my Chihuahua, so

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Yes, I've heard this story (07:44):
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because I've got three chihuahuas.
So yeah, love it.

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (07:49):
Lynx is kind of the reason I went, Oh my God, I love
this thing because I was looking foran activity to do with her and she
does a bit of tricks and she does abit of this and she does a bit of that.
But when we found Hoopers,it was like it just clicked.

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (08:06):
Oh,

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (08:07):
was

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (08:07):
yeah.

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (08:08):
click and we went, thing's fun together.
And one of my favorite photos is of thefirst workshop I did with me and Minks,
and you can just see in one littleimage, how much fun we are having.

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Oh, really? (08:22):
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I love that.

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (08:25):
big thing for me.
It's about building trust andteamwork with you and your dog.
And that's what owninga dog is about, right?
Trust and teamwork.

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (08:34):
Yeah, so you've got from the size of a Chihuahua
all the way up to a German Shepherd and aMalinois, you know, all shapes and sizes.

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (08:41):
had Danes doing it.
Irish Wolfhounds, Bulls, Dr.
Bordeaux's.
Like it's not a size this sport.

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: No, good. (08:50):
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Oh, I love that the littleChihuahuas got involved.
So how does participating inHoopers strengthen that bond
between a dog and their guardian?

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (09:01):
So, for me, doing anything with your dog is going to
strengthen your relationship, right?

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (09:06):
Yeah.

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (09:07):
that bang on about training, they think about training as
always being obedient stuff, but actuallyit can just be doing some tricks, it
can be doing a bit of enrichment stuff,it can just be You and your dog hanging
out together, but I think more andmore people are getting dogs that were
previously designed to do working stuff.

(09:27):
Like I said, you know, the gundogs,the working breeds, but also a lot of
these cross breeds that we get, youknow, the kind of designer breeds.
Think of, prime examplewould be a Cockapoo.

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (09:37):
Yes.

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (09:38):
a Cocka and a Poodle, both of which
are technically working breeds,

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (09:43):
Yeah.

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (09:43):
and then go, Oh, can you live in my house and be a pet?
I mean, yes, but,

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: But there's going to come all this. (09:49):
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Carrie-Anne Selwyn (09:54):
dogs and the handlers a way of doing some work
together whilst having fun as well.
And because it's something thatyou can do at home in your garden
and practice, it's not like you canonly do it once a week at training.
You can do a little bit every day.
I mean, this morning, Viperhasn't been walked today.

(10:15):
We've had a training day.

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (10:17):
Why?

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (10:18):
we did a bit of hoopers in the garden.

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Yeah, and it's been nice, (10:20):
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it's been nice weather down

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (10:22):
it's a

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: here in Southampton. (10:23):
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Has it been nice where you are?

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (10:25):
It has.
The bottom of London has actually hadsome sun today, which is a lovely thing.
So, you know, typical Brits, right?
We're already talking

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (10:33):
Yeah,

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (10:34):
and we're not even 10 minutes in.

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (10:37):
it's funny because I went past earlier at like
a park and people were out sunbathing.
I'm thinking the sun's out, butit's bloody freezing, bit of sun
and then us Brits are like, ah,

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (10:47):
Show me you're British without telling me you're British.
Sun comes out, so do the legs.

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (10:52):
yeah.

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (10:52):
on earth?

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Sun's out, guns out for a (10:53):
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lot of them down this way.
That's true.
Is that viper with you?
I can see the pointy ears.
That'd be

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (11:01):
oh yeah, you can see them in the back of the flyer park.
Do you want to come and say hi?
She's

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (11:05):
Oh,

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (11:06):
hello.

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: yeah, we're saying hello. (11:06):
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Oh, she's absolutely stunning.

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (11:11):
She,

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Dunnan, look at (11:11):
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Carrie-Anne Selwyn: biased, but she is pretty. (11:14):
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Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: She is absolutely stunning. (11:16):
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Carrie-Anne Selwyn (11:18):
Yes,

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Brilliant. (11:19):
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Carrie-Anne Selwyn (11:19):
boy.

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: And I think I heard you say as (11:20):
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well, that you started doingHoobers in your garage at one point.

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (11:25):
Oh

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: know, so like from a space perspective. (11:26):
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Carrie-Anne Selwyn (11:28):
when it was freezing cold

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (11:29):
Yeah.

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (11:30):
news flash, Chihuahuas don't do cold.
It's one of the reasons I like themas a breed because they just don't
do, they don't do rain, they don't do

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (11:37):
No,

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (11:38):
like,

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: they don't. (11:38):
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Carrie-Anne Selwyn (11:38):
I concur.
And with Minx, yeah, I had like alittle area of the garage set up
where I just had like a hoop and abarrel just to practice some like

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (11:47):
Yeah.

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (11:48):
just to build up on that.
We call it like a commitment to object.
So the dog having value in.
The hoop.
So hoop value, barrel value,

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (11:59):
Mm.

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (12:00):
hoop is really a teeny tiny little thing.
It's only kind of a coupleof centimeters wide.
So for the dog to be able to beprecise enough to find that obstacle,
they need to understand what it is.
So just doing loads of reps of onehoop is how we build that and how
we start building up the distancehandling and stuff like that.

(12:21):
All

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (12:22):
Yeah.

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (12:22):
stuff is just foundations that's done really well.
So

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: I love that. (12:26):
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So yeah, you can use your garden, use yourgarage, you don't need loads of space.
So moving on to our next section,which is all about how Hoopers
support dogs emotionally and mentally.
We often hear about the physicalbenefits of dog sports, but
how does Hoopers support dogsemotionally and mentally, Carrie?

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (12:48):
for me, it's A big confidence builder.
So Minx is Jenny.
Minx can be quite worried by other dogs.
She's been charged out a few

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (12:58):
Oh,

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (13:00):
she, she's tiny.
You know, she, I mean, inChihuahua world, she's massive.
She's five kilos,

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (13:05):
okay.
A bit like mine.

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (13:06):
dog world, right?
She's big.
Most people's Chihuahuasare like two, three kilos.
So I've,

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: teacup ones. (13:11):
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Carrie-Anne Selwyn (13:12):
Chihuahua,

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: So far I've got chunky ones. (13:13):
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That's

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (13:19):
Finding an activity she could do where she
felt comfortable and safe workingaround other dogs was really cool.
Now,

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (13:26):
lovely.

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (13:27):
this is where I need to kind of hold myself together
because the boy's no longer with me,but my main competition boy Dodge,

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (13:34):
Yeah.

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (13:35):
Shepherds like patterns, shepherds like
predictability, and Dodge hadvery big emotions in the world.
He had some physical and arguably somemental glitches going on, God love him.
And Hoopers was something that wecould do and he could work and it was

(13:59):
just a fun thing for me and him andthe thing I loved for doing Hoopers
with him is it was just me and him.
All the other stuff goes away, all that.
My dog needs space.
My dog, you know, is reactive.
My dog has big emotions, all thatstuff with comes as an owner.

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I'm like having a dog that islike that because owning a dog
with issues, glitches, however youwant to phrase it is exhausting.
being able to do an activity withthat dog was just so much fun.
And just loved it.

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And one of the things, That I think wasa really cool achievement with Dodge, not
just our competition achievements becausehe won leagues, he won competitions
like he did really well, also if Iwas judging friends could handle him

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Oh, good. (14:58):
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Yeah, yeah.

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (15:08):
working with other people doing that assignment.
For me, that screams confidencebecause a dog that isn't comfortable
isn't going to work for someone else.
And I'm not saying that every dog shouldjust go up to anyone and work, but the
people that were in his circle, would

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: a circle of trust. (15:28):
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Yeah.

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (15:30):
Exactly that.
So

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (15:31):
Mm.

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (15:32):
for me, Hoopers has been an amazing outlet as an owner
that has a dog with big emotions.
It's been a brilliant thing to playwith my tiny dog that frankly didn't
really want to do much training of any

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: They're just lapdogs. (15:50):
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Carrie-Anne Selwyn (15:52):
Right, but for it's been a brilliant game to
play while she's growing up and

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (15:59):
Yeah.

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (16:01):
maybe she shouldn't be doing as much as she feels she can
in terms of development because Malinoisdon't come with self preservation button.
This, app was notdownloaded into the system.
So being able to say to her, well,look, rather than you jumping on top of
the garden storage area, has happened.

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Why don't we try running through somehoops around some barrels instead?

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (16:28):
Yeah.

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (16:29):
for her, she plays hoopers and goes, I've done some work.
I'm tired because as much as it's youas a team, the dog is still having to
think and process what they're doing.
It's

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (16:39):
Mm.

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (16:40):
next to you, with you telling them every single thing.

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (16:43):
Mm.

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (16:44):
It is when the dog becomes competent in what they're
doing, can literally shut up and watchthem work, which, that's really cool.

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (16:53):
yeah,

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (16:54):
you forget that you're actually meant to be steering,
you're like, oh, shit, cue, sorry yeah,

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (16:59):
yeah,

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (16:59):
goes wrong, but that's also part of the fun, is that
even if the dog goes wrong, theydon't know they've gone wrong, and
you're just having fun together.

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (17:07):
Yeah.
I bet cause obviously they've probablyquite got a lot of energy, haven't they?
So it's probably, yeah.

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (17:12):
yeah, I'm gonna say that if, if you have a spare few hours a
day to mentally and physically work your

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (17:21):
Yeah.

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (17:22):
know what, yeah.

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Yeah, that's what I was thinking. (17:23):
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Cause you know, got to burnoff a lot of that energy.
So get her using her brain.
So for nervous, sensitive,anxious dogs, how can Hoopers be a
confidence building activity carry?

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (17:37):
It becomes a pattern.
It becomes something that's predictable.
So once they understand what theequipment means, once they've got that
equipment value that I spoke aboutearlier, they go, Oh, this thing.
you can start off in yourgarden and then maybe.
You go to a field and try it.
Maybe you go to a relative's gardenand try it, know, and being able to do

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something with the dog that's predictablein different environments is a great
way of building that dog's confidence.

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Yeah, pretty. (18:10):
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Carrie-Anne Selwyn (18:11):
me, I think the environmental side can kind of come
into it and actually once you are ableto go to competitions, a lot of the
Hoopers competitions are set up for dogsthat do need a bit of space, those dogs
that do wear those yellow ribbons that

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (18:31):
Yeah.

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (18:32):
need a little bit more room, a little bit more understanding.
Some of the shows are going to bea big agility show, so they may not
be appropriate, but some of them.
Maybe a single ring in an indoorarena where the dogs kind of
secured in on three sides.
So actually, that sort ofenvironment for dogs that find
the environment a lot to take in

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (18:53):
Yeah.

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (18:54):
brilliant way to kind of start getting them into the
world and competing they're doingsomething that they understand.

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (19:01):
Yeah.
Yeah, definitely.
Are you going to becompeting with Viper or like?
Yeah.
Yeah.

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: literally counting down (19:08):
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Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Chomping at the bit. (19:11):
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Carrie-Anne Selwyn (19:12):
the weeks because we are at the point now where we are
weeks away from being able to compete.

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (19:18):
wow.
Okay.

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (19:20):
a lot of the sports, some of them start at 12 months,

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (19:23):
Yes.

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (19:24):
because we start officially at 15 months.

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (19:26):
Yeah.

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (19:27):
I've been taking her with me when I've been judging
and testing my courses with her.
And she's already, like,having so much fun with

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: She's ready. (19:37):
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Carrie-Anne Selwyn (19:38):
some of the other judges have let me try their
courses, which has been really nice.
And she'll finish the runand I'll give her her toy.
run up to the judge to givethem the toy to play with.
She's just like, we did a thing.
We love it.
So,

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (19:52):
Oh,

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (19:53):
I'm literally, like excited and I know some people are gonna
Possibly criticize that because theymay think that i'm doing it too early

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (20:05):
right.

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (20:06):
for her It's not too

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (20:09):
No.
Yeah.

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (20:12):
she's probably done about half an hour's hooper training
a week roughly You know, obviouslysometimes we've done workshops and we've
done stuff that's a little bit more,but in terms of kind of over training
stuff, really don't think we have.
I think because everything is on theground and she understands the game, you

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can go on any of my social media and seeher journey and how she's progressing,
You just see a dog that's having fun.

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (20:43):
Yeah.
That's the important thing.

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (20:47):
She'll come and get cross at me.
She's like, wait, what are you doing?
Sort your shit, mama.
Come on, let's do the thing.
So it's just us having fun together.
And the other thing that's been reallyinteresting with her journey is we've
started to dabble a little bit in agility.
And who has has been a cool foundation

(21:11):
Agility training, because.

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (21:13):
I bet.

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (21:14):
I mentioned this not running thing agility.
Allegedly you're meant to do the runningthing a little bit more in agility.
Now I'm never going to be one of thosehandlers that's sprinting like an a

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (21:26):
Say.

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (21:27):
y part of my dog.
Like,
it's not and
going through tunnels because
She can do it with hoops.
And if you go onto my social mediawe had a training session with
some of her siblings last week

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Oh, okay. (21:47):
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Don't eat it.

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (21:50):
music of me just stood still while she's just
running in a circle doing jumps.
I wasn't telling her to do anything.
She was just running around in acircle doing jumps because it was fun.

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Yeah, I think that's what comes down (22:03):
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to, as long as the dog's having fun.
How do you

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (22:07):
have fun when you're training.
If

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (22:09):
Yeah!

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: you're not doing it right. (22:10):
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Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (22:11):
Now, I've always said that when I was doing
in person training, it's got to be fun.
The moment it's not fun, then,right, you need to move on.
So, how do you ensure that Hoopersremains a low pressure, positive
experience for all dogs carry?

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (22:26):
Oh, oh, this might get controversial.

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Oh, I like that though. (22:30):
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Carrie-Anne Selwyn (22:31):
me, I have been big, big advocate for baseless hoops.
When hoopers first started,there was a base on the floor.
Baseless hoops were introduced.
God, it was.
the pandemic.
Now.
I've only trained Viron basis hoops.
I would only run Dodge on basis hoops.

(22:53):
MX prefers basis hoops.
I watch clients, dogs thatI've trained on both, and the
dogs just have a smoother run
Bars.

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (23:02):
Okay.

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (23:03):
people will argue that it's just pole on the floor.
There have been injuries.

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (23:10):
Oh.

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (23:11):
faster dogs actually because they're not always watching
where their feet go and they've eitherStood on a bar and said I've watched
Collies literally flick a hoop in the air

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Oh, gosh, right. (23:21):
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Carrie-Anne Selwyn (23:22):
I've seen dogs Slip on a base bar and I've seen dogs catch feet
on a base bar So for me basis hoops area big way of keeping it more accessible.
Also, when it comes to course design,making sure that there's no tight
turns, there's no of things thatare requiring the dog to do fast

(23:46):
lead leg changes or stuff like that.
Some of the organizationsdo allow hoop slaloms.
I don't like them.
I will not train them.

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Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (23:59):
What?

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (23:59):
are not dissimilar to a Weave in Agility.

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (24:02):
Right.
Okay.

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (24:04):
The dog

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: It's not heard that word before. (24:04):
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Carrie-Anne Selwyn (24:06):
things.
Yeah, exactly, because I don'thave them in Hooper's World.
As far as I'm concerned, not a thing.

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (24:13):
Right.

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (24:14):
I do not care for them.
The other thing that we see in some ofthe courses in of Scandinavia and those
areas Germany is the dog going round,round a barrel and back through a hoop.
Now, we do that at the start whenwe're first teaching the dogs
equipment, but we kind of comeoff of it quite quickly in the UK.

(24:36):
I think part of the reason forthat is in the countries where you
see it more commonly in courses,the course distances are bigger.
The dog has eight to ten metersto go from a hoop to a barrel
back to a hoop, a big distance.
If the dog only has five meters,obviously a tiny dog like Minx is

(24:56):
going to find that relatively easy.
A dog that's bigger and faster like Viper,that's a very difficult thing to do.
Can she do it?
Yes, would I want her to be doingit once they're picking up speed?
No,

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (25:11):
Aye.

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (25:12):
we did it when she was younger and learning how to do
things, but now she's doing it faster.
The only time I would do a barrel wrapbasically is if we were working 8 to 10

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (25:24):
Okay.

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (25:25):
for me, that's another thing that I hope judges
consider when their course designing.
I think in general becausecourses should be flowing.
There shouldn't be tight turns.
That's how we keep itaccessible for more dogs

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Brilliant. (25:42):
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Love that.
Thank you so much.
So moving on to our next section, whichis all about getting started and what
pet parents, dog guardians need to know.
So if someone is completelynew to Hoopers, what's the
best way to get started?

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (25:59):
So have a look and see if there is a Hoopers instructor near you.
the canine Hoopers world instructorsthat are listed on our website are
the ones that offer the Hoopersawards, can work your way through.
progress awards with your dogsand get pretty ribbons without
having to go to competition.

(26:21):
But there are of instructors andplaces that are teaching Hoopers
all over the UK, Australia,

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (26:32):
Yes.

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (26:33):
Canada, Europe, Africa, like it's spreading
to so many continents now,

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: That's amazing. (26:39):
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Carrie-Anne Selwyn (26:40):
much it's spreading and I think speak to local clubs because
if they're not training hoopers yet,if they know there's an interest then
they might want to take the course.
Also tell them Canine HoopersWorld do an instructor course.
If you are in an area where there areno instructors, there's no access, do

(27:03):
have a Hoopers at Home online course

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Oh, okay. (27:06):
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Carrie-Anne Selwyn (27:07):
on the Canine Hoopers World website.

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Brilliant. (27:10):
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Carrie-Anne Selwyn (27:11):
So if you go onto the website and go into I can't remember
it's either courses or shop also you cando progress awards with your dog so they
are called the achievement awards on thewebsite and you work through the exercises
with your dog so if you've maybe started alittle bit with hoopers with your dogs and

(27:31):
you think oh I don't know what to do next.
I don't know what exercises do.
You can sign up for the achievement awardsonline and work your dogs through those.
I've also get pretty ribbons for in post.
So

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: That's nice. (27:45):
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So what equipment do people need topractice at home and are there any
simple exercises they could try?

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (27:54):
if you can kind of make a couple of hoops,
that's a good place to start.
Now the hoops.
are the way we make them when we're kindof doing them for at home is plumbing
pipe under floor heating pipe is ourlittle secret weapon because it holds its
shape but a hula hoop with a coat hangerundone will also help hold the hoop shape

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (28:23):
okay.

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (28:24):
worrying about getting any underfloor heating pipe.
so you want some upright bits,which is plumbing pipe you can
get at any good hardware store.

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (28:34):
Hmm.

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (28:36):
feet on both sides and then a hoop that makes the arch.
So I believe they are 50 or 60centimeters wide at the bottom
and then they're between 80.
and a meter high at the top.
So you make yourself an arch,then you have barrels, laundry

(29:00):
baskets, pop up garden waste bins,

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (29:03):
Yeah.
You can get them fromScrewfix, the pop up garden.

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (29:07):
prefix if you're in Australia Bunnings, if you're in America
Home Depot, like basically any hardwarestore will sell pop up garden bins and
the pipe you need for making the hoops.
You can get them from,

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (29:22):
Mm.

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (29:23):
you don't need loads of equipment.
And the

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (29:25):
No.

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (29:25):
love is that you can store it in a small area.
You don't really need to worry abouttunnels and maps and stuff at home.
As long as you've got hoopsand the barrels to practice.

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (29:38):
Mm.

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (29:39):
That's bundles, and if you just have one heap and
one barrel, you can sit on a chairin your living room, get two little
bowls out, and the dog just goes fromone bo Oh, sorry, Viper's getting

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Don't apologize. (29:52):
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Mine are always like that.

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (29:55):
to another.
Via the hoop.

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (29:58):
Mm.

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (29:59):
And

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Brilliant. (30:00):
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Carrie-Anne Selwyn (30:00):
how you build the

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Is that simple? (30:01):
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Carrie-Anne Selwyn (30:02):
play the game.
Super simple.

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (30:05):
Yeah.
That's what people like, isn't that?
Yeah.
Brilliant.
Yeah.

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (30:10):
can go, Right, the dog has to go through the hoop.
I need to say yes as thedog goes through the hoop.
And I give them a cookie on the floor.
Like, that's really easy to see, right?
The dog goes through the hoop, yousay yes, the dog gets a cookie.

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (30:25):
Hmm.

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (30:25):
That's, that's pretty simple.
It's easier than explaininghow to make a cup of tea.
I

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: I may find that difficult. (30:32):
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I love it.
She's giving you a wash.
Normally my I've got anessay dog and he's got.
Normally he's sat on me, buthe's actually just settled at me.
And then his sister, she's very needy.
Typical poodles dramaqueens like their dad.
They just, you know,want all the attention.
So they normally take turns ofsetting up in my lap, so I don't
mind dogs making appearance.

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (30:51):
be fair, if, if you never ever want to go to the
bathroom on your own again, get mum.

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Get out of the set. (30:59):
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I can't even shower.
Valkyrie dogs.

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (31:03):
the drama is strong as well.

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Oh, okay. (31:05):
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Right, we've got another drama.
You call me a drama llama.
We've got another one there.

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (31:11):
Massively, massively.

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: with that. (31:14):
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Oh, actually, I might have to show you myllama, because you're going to love it.
Before we come off this call, I'mgoing to go off camera and show you
my llama, because it is sparkly.
As well.
And I love

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (31:24):
drama

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (31:25):
Yes.

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (31:26):
It's

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: I'm gonna Let me grab it now. (31:26):
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Hold on.

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (31:28):
That's it.
Nathan's getting it.
Nathan is going to show me his

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (31:32):
Here is the sparkly, secret, rainbow, dra llama.

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (31:39):
Oh my goodness.
Wow.
I mean,

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Someone got me that because you (31:43):
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called me a drama llama before, butone of my friends called me a drama
llama and this is what they got me.

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (31:49):
I mean, if the crown fits babe, if the crown fits, right?

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (31:55):
Anyway, I've gone off track now, but who cares?
Right, that's,

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (32:00):
on a podcast that I'm involved in and we've gone
off on a tangent somewhere else.

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: it's all good. (32:06):
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It's all good.
So, do dogs need prior obedience trainingor can any dog give Hoopers a go?
Okay.
Yeah.
Hmm.

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (32:25):
be going to a group class, I'd probably suggest your dog being
able to stay with you and not run over andsay hi to all the other dogs is helpful.
But if you're training it at homeor one to one, then absolutely not.
And this is one of the otherthings that's cool about Hoopers.
It does help with your dog's listeningskills and your communication skills.

(32:50):
Because to start with, yourdog's not going to have a weight.
They're not going to understand thatyou're going to be a bit away from them.
But once you start adding thoselittle elements in, then if your
dog can do a weight in front of ahoop, then they can do a weight.
While you're maybe wanting to cliptheir lead on to put them back on at

(33:12):
the park or you know If your dog can go
A little bit of a recall, so it'skind of a good way of cementing some
of those other behaviors in withoutit feeling like it's obedient.

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Yeah, I'm not a massive fan of (33:27):
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the word obedience, but theyneed to have, I like life skills,
maybe some basic life skills or,

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (33:35):
I feel having a mal, you, there is a level
of obedience needed because

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (33:40):
yeah,

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (33:40):
of self preservation.
you know, has to mean sit in

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (33:46):
yeah.
Okay.
Well, but basically any, anydog really can give it a go
though, is what we're saying.
Yeah.

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (33:55):
percent.
100%

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Brilliant. (33:57):
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So we're going to be moving on to anormal line of just going crazy and
you'll probably hear something outside.
Hopefully it won't pick up.
So our next section is all aboutbusting myths about Hoopers.
So Carrie, what are some of thebiggest myths you hear about
Hoopers and what's the reality?

(34:19):
Yeah.
Oh, okay.

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (34:23):
sports, but I think a big one is only Collies do it.
Like, no, all the dogs can do it.
Pollies dominate a lot of dog sports.

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (34:34):
Yeah.

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (34:36):
To be fair, Malinois and German Shepherds
also dominate a lot of dog sports.
You don't have to have one ofthose breeds to do Hoopers.
We have all sorts of dogs coming to play.
Affenpinschers,
Airedales, Boston Terriers.
Datsuns, like all, pretty much likename a dog breed and I'm sure one of the

(35:01):
Hoopers trainers will have gone, pardonme, one of the Hoopers trainers will
have gone, yeah I've taught one of those,

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (35:06):
Yeah.

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (35:07):
it's super accessible.
It's also quite good for the breedsthat maybe some of the more high
impact sports may not be physically

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (35:18):
Yeah.
That's,

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (35:19):
for,

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: that's true. (35:20):
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Yeah.

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (35:21):
I'm phrasing that carefully because obviously Everyone
knows their own dogs, but like no oneneeds to see a chunky dog like trying
to do disc and jump in the air when theyprobably aren't fit enough to do it.
Whereas Hoopers is quite agood way of building a dog's
fitness and stamina as well.

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (35:40):
Hmm.
Okay.
So we've already touched onthis, but another myth is that
you need to have a big garden ortraining field to get started.

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (35:48):
No, not at all.
So if you've got a mat that'sabout, I don't know, if you've got
an area that's maybe two meters bya meter, you can train one hoop.
Obviously dog size dependent.
If you've got a tiny dog,that's loads of room.
If you've got a bigger dog, you mightwant a bit more room so the dog can get

(36:10):
through the hoop before it's rewarded.
but yeah, in terms of size, like wasworking Viper literally on a five meter
circle this morning, just doing a bitof a barrel and a hoop and a barrel.
And I had some stuff, Ispaced the obstacles out.
five meters apart and I managedto get three obstacles out in

(36:33):
a little bit of grass area.

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (36:35):
Mm.

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (36:35):
if you have access then you have more room to

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (36:38):
Yeah.

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (36:39):
but you don't need bundles of room you could do it in
your hallway as long as the surfaceyou're training on isn't slippery

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (36:47):
Yeah.

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (36:48):
don't need loads of room you just need it to not be slippy.

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: That's it. (36:51):
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Not slippery.
Brilliant.
So would you say hoopers ismore fun and enriching, or is
it more of a competitive sport?

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (37:02):
I think It's both.

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (37:05):
Mm

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (37:05):
I

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (37:06):
Okay.

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (37:06):
both.
It depends on the team doing it.

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (37:11):
Yeah.

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (37:11):
with Minx, I did it for fun.
It was something we could do together.
With Dodge, oh my god, so competitive.
With Viper, I'm gonna be competitive.
Because, naturally, I'ma competitive person.
Like,

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (37:25):
Okay.

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (37:26):
I like Doing sports and winning prizes and
that that's just my personality.
got lots of clients thatnever ever want to compete.
But actually, this is why Ibought the Progress Awards in and
the Achievement Awards online.
So people that maybe didn't want togo to a show, but maybe wanted to

(37:48):
achieve something could still do that.
Sign.
That's kind of why Iintroduced those awards.
So people that wanted to have funwith their dogs without having
to go to a competition could,

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (38:02):
Hmm.

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (38:03):
if you want to go and compete for your
dog, then absolutely you can.
And you'll have the best time.
International

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Okay, cool. (38:10):
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So just another question.
You've taught it all overthe world, haven't you?
Australia?
Yeah.
That's amazing that it's took you.

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (38:21):
trainer and judge.
Cause I've judged in Australia as

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Have you? (38:23):
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Carrie-Anne Selwyn (38:25):
that was super fun.
Yeah.

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (38:27):
Yeah.
Whereabouts in Australia was it, Carrie?

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (38:30):
done say we Hoopers World have been to Perth.
I'm hoping that in the notso distant future, we will be
hitting other parts of Australia.

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Oh, okay. (38:42):
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Well, I mean, I love Australia.
I don't know if you know, but Imet my husband there in Perth,

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (38:47):
Ooh!

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (38:47):
And I've got family in Perth and friends in Sydney.
So I was just really interestedbecause like, we, we love Australia.
We've been back a few times since we'vebeen married, but it's, I love it.
So I just wondered where you'd been.
I know you'd been there, butI didn't know quite where.
Wow.
Okay.

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (39:03):
trainers as far over as Queensland now.

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (39:06):
Perfect.
Yeah.
Oh, okay.

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (39:12):
Hoopers Australia now they have competitions out there as well.
So it's really cool.
Yeah.
So for any of the, anyone in Australialistening, like you can access the
instructor course obviously online, butthere is access now to competitions and
other Hoopers trainers out in Oz as well.
So yeah, it's cool.

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (39:32):
Yeah, because you said that you'd like, it was
international, so it's, it's sort of go,it's hitting a lot of different countries.
That's amazing.
You must be saying, right, right,

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (39:42):
I'd say, roughly 10 years now.
It's kind of, it's, it'scoming up to that decade mark.
It originally started in America.
Sharon Nelson, who sadly isno longer on this mortal coil
with us invented the hoop.
And

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (40:00):
right.

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (40:01):
be
eternally grateful to her for upwith this little skinny obstacle that
has created this whole fun activityaround playing croquet with your dogs.

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (40:15):
Yeah.
Oh, brilliant.
So original, originated in, in America.

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (40:19):
Yeah.

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Okay, perfect. (40:19):
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Carrie.

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (40:22):
over from America

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Well, yeah Well, (40:23):
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Carrie-Anne Selwyn: shouldn't say that, should I? (40:26):
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Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: it's okay. (40:29):
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So actually I just want to I'm justgonna rewind a little bit so You
started off as a pet dog trainer,but what actually made you to like
launch Canine Hoop as well day.

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (40:42):
So I was teaching classes.
I was starting to kind of do workshops,doing stuff with other trainers.
And when I discovered Hoopers, I wasjust like more pet dogs need to do this.

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (40:59):
Mm

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (41:00):
Just

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (41:00):
hmm

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (41:01):
So my goal is that pet dog trainers will be
teaching Hoopers rather than agility.

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (41:09):
Oh, okay

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (41:10):
I know is maybe a bit controversial, but for me, especially now
I'm learning about agility properly andI'm kind of training my own dog properly.

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (41:20):
Okay

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (41:20):
You need a lot of specialist equipment.
You need to know what you're doingand agility trained badly dangerous.

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (41:31):
but yeah

Carrie-Anne Selwyn: having dogs go over jumps. (41:32):
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and not understanding the heights ofthings and just how to progress dogs
and the techniques that are required.
Whereas a dog running through a hoop, Imean, they may catch a toe, maybe, but

(41:52):
the risk of a dog Going through a hoop asopposed to over a jump is massively less.
And

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (42:00):
Yeah.

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (42:01):
just feel for a lot of dogs that maybe don't have
the fitness levels to do agility

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (42:06):
Mm.

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (42:07):
a lot of pet dogs, let's face it, aren't fit.
They are overweight.

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (42:12):
Yeah.

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (42:13):
of times I get told my dogs are skinny,

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (42:16):
God.

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (42:17):
dogs aren't skinny, my dogs are fit,

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (42:19):
Yeah.
They're fair.
Yeah.

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (42:20):
my dogs are the weight they should be.

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (42:23):
Yes.

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (42:24):
often are you in a park and you see fat dogs?
But people see that as normal.

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (42:31):
I know.
I

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (42:33):
in general, right?
I mean, I'm carrying a few more pounds

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: was saying my, my love. (42:37):
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I'm like, yeah.

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (42:42):
But we don't go, Oh my God, I'm drunk because
you walk down the road and mostpeople are a similar size to us.
But you notice the people thatare very, very fit because they
stand out it's not the norm.
And I think it's becomethe same with dogs.
So dogs doing hoopers is a muchbetter form of fitness than

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (43:04):
Hmm.

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (43:04):
doing sports that are going to require them to be.
jumping or doing lots of repetitivebody movements that they may
not be physically fit for.

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (43:14):
Hmm.
I don't know if it was you or theother person that was interviewing on
the podcast, but did it, did you orthe other person just fully do only
Hooper's classes and nothing else?
That was you.
Yeah.

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (43:26):
was

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (43:26):
Yeah.

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (43:27):
I took a huge leap of faith and when I don't

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (43:31):
Hmm.

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (43:32):
other stuff,

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (43:33):
Anymore.

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (43:34):
I

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (43:34):
And you just sort of niche down to that.

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (43:36):
oh, I, I like super niched.

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Super niche. (43:40):
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Everyone goes on about nichingand you're super niche.

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (43:43):
I super niched.
I like niched within a niche.
Like So, it's kind of, I, I feel likeyou hear my name and you straight
away think of Hoopers without evennecessarily knowing what Hoopers is.

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (43:58):
Yes.
Yeah.
You're right.
Okay.
So I went off.

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (44:03):
all about the brand, babe.

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: It is all about the brand babes. (44:04):
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Yeah.
I'm all about the brand.
So I did go off on a tangent.
So Carrie, if you could give pet parents,dog guardians, one reason to try Hoopers,
what would that reason be, please?

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (44:18):
It's fun.
Well, that

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: It's fun. (44:21):
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Carrie-Anne Selwyn (44:22):
right

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: What more reasons do you need? (44:23):
undefined

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (44:25):
wasn't it?
It's fun.
Boom.

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: What more do I need to say? (44:29):
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You want to have fun with your dog.
That's what I was saying the other day.

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (44:33):
Exactly that right.
If, if you can do something that fulfillsyour dog, mentally and physically, and
is fun for both of you, why wouldn't you?

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (44:46):
Yeah.
Yeah.
Cause it built.

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (44:49):
the question would be like, why shouldn't you,

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (44:51):
Yeah.

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (44:52):
like, just try it.
You

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (44:56):
it's,

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (44:56):
until you've tried.

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (44:57):
yeah.
You don't know until you try,but it's all about building
that bond, that relationship.
You know, that whole sort ofconnecting with your dog and yeah.
Yeah, I love that.
So if anyone or someone was feeling abouta bit unsure about trying a new activity
with their dog, what would your advice be?

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (45:17):
So.
Speak, speak to a local club, speak toa local trainer come and look at the
Canine Hoopers World stuff on Facebookif you want to watch some fun training
stuff Canine Hoopers World on TikTokI'm always Viper doing stuff and it's
not always Hoopers, like, it's justViper doing crazy Mali stuff and it's.

(45:42):
features occasionally bless her heart,although she's pretty much retired.
She's basically a sophomore butfor me, it's, it's something
that you can try at home.
And as I said, if you're thinkingthat you're not sure whether you'd
want to go to a class and do it,you can have a look at the online
stuff and do it online with us.

(46:02):
It's

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: brilliant. (46:03):
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Okay, so we've literally sailedthrough this episode Carrie, so
we're going to start wrapping up

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (46:10):
a change.

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: We're going to start wrapping up the (46:11):
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last sort of five minutes or so Sojust a couple of final questions.
So what's next for canine Hooper's world?
Where's the sparkle going next?
What, what's your plans?
Any reveals for our listeners?
Anything going on?

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (46:28):
I'm kind of evolving the way that the instructor
course is being taught, so it willbe staying online, but I'm kind
of, I'm going to use one of myfavorite words now, I'm amalgamating.

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Now that's a big word. (46:43):
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I love that.

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (46:47):
day.
I am bringing Level 1 andLevel 2 as one course.
And there's going to be a lot moreCarrie Sparkle because I'm also going
to be doing live coaching on Zoom.
So, when you did theinstructor course online, you

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: it was a while ago now. (47:04):
undefined

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (47:06):
of set free to work through it at your own pace,

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (47:09):
Yeah.

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (47:10):
want to change it is that you're going to
have 6 months to do the course.

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (47:15):
Okay,

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (47:16):
you're going to have access to me for
six months to ask questions

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (47:19):
really?

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (47:20):
and do that kind of stuff.

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: That's amazing. (47:22):
undefined

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (47:23):
like that's the way I want to do it.
So I will still be doing some in personstuff and around, around the country to do
things and maybe other countries as well.
But there's going to be a lot more Alot more Selwyn Sparkle as we call it.

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (47:41):
Need more, we need more Salwyn Sparkle.

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (47:45):
1 needs more Selwyn.
The Viper's like, I need more, you don't

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (47:49):
Yeah,

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (47:50):
Sparkle.
You're

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (47:52):
we, we, we love the, we love the Salwyn
Sparkle, so any more we can get.
All right, so that's interesting.
So we could see a bit more then.
Mm.

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (48:00):
yeah, we'll be, that's kind of how Canine
Hooper's world is evolving.
In terms of me I'm backto doing Facebook Lives.

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Oh, okay. (48:11):
undefined

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (48:13):
on a Tuesday.
Now,

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (48:15):
Oh,

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (48:16):
did this

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (48:16):
okay.

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (48:17):
back on Facebook and do my Facebook lives, and then I was on
holiday for a week and then I was ill.
So I

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (48:23):
Oh,

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (48:23):
weeks, which was rubbish, but I've just done one today
before we started recording, and

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (48:30):
okay.

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (48:31):
an exciting one, because Viper has just
got her first sponsorship.

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Oh, fancy. (48:37):
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Of

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (48:38):
to say who?

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: course you can. (48:40):
undefined
Yeah.

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (48:43):
big shout out to Good Chaps, who are now our treat sponsors.

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (48:50):
Oh

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (48:51):
all those training treats we get through,

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (48:54):
yeah.

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (48:56):
we are now sponsored.
But, they are doing A trainer's box.
So they do small, like small packetsthat you can sell onto your clients,

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (49:07):
Mm,

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (49:08):
they're also doing it so trainers can bulk by.
So when you are using treats foryourself in consults or in group classes,

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (49:16):
Mm.

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (49:16):
can bulk by the treats and no artificial colors, no additives.
No nasties and the they've got a fewdifferent types, but the ones I'm
most excited about are single protein.
So if you've got dogs that are maybe a bitfussy, but also maybe have food allergies,

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (49:38):
Hmm.

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (49:39):
they're literally single protein.
So they've

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Oh, okay. (49:42):
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Carrie-Anne Selwyn (49:43):
Buck, venison, salmon and chicken

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (49:46):
Hmm.

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (49:47):
sausage and you can order a big two box of

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (49:52):
Yeah.

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (49:53):
value treats at a discounted rate for trainers.
So

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (49:57):
Okay.

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (49:57):
anyone is interested in that go on to the Good Chaps page.

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: never heard of them, but I'm (50:01):
undefined
glad you've mentioned them.

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (50:05):
Right.
They're based in Bristol

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Oh, nice. (50:07):
undefined

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (50:08):
the ingredients are all British.
The packaging is eco friendly and they doa range of eco friendly tug toys as well.
So we're kind of supporting.
the local economies,

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (50:23):
Yeah,

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (50:24):
supporting British farmers, which is very important

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (50:27):
Yes.

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (50:28):
giving our dogs really good high value treats rather
than being in a panic having to gethot dogs or treats that are full of

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (50:38):
Crap.

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (50:39):
Let's face it, you probably shouldn't be eating them.

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (50:41):
Yeah,

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (50:42):
can give our dogs really good quality reinforcement.
And as we know, the more reinforcingthe reward is, the more likely the
dog is to repeat the behaviour.

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: that's it. (50:51):
undefined

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (50:52):
just going to improve your training.

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (50:54):
Amazing.
I love that she's gother first sponsorship.
Congratulations.
Right,

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (51:00):
Can I just,

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (51:01):
go on.

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (51:01):
do, can I do another quick

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (51:03):
You can do, you can do whatever you want.
Antinol.
No,

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (51:08):
so now she's a year old, I've just started
her joint supplement stuff.
And I know people are probablythinking, a year old and you're
putting her on joint supplement,

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: definitely. (51:18):
undefined
Why not?

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (51:19):
right?
Once the dogs are a year old, andI've done this with all of my dogs,

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (51:25):
Yeah.

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (51:26):
supplement.
But having a breed of dog that doesa lot, she's very active, very wacky.
She does.
Lots and lots of stupid shit.
I want to know her joints are

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Well, it's actually still (51:38):
undefined
growing as well, isn't she?
So.

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (51:42):
she's still growing and developing and this is why we
didn't start till she was a year old.
But now, kind of, the developmentstage is slowing and she's

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (51:50):
Mm,

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (51:51):
do more stuff.

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (51:52):
Mm,

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (51:52):
if you go onto the Antenna website and use the
code CHW sent me, all uppercase,

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (52:01):
Mm.

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (52:01):
so K9 Hoopers World sent me, but CHW sent me,
you'll get an extra discount on topof the discount you when you sign up.

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Oh, okay. (52:11):
undefined
Brilliant.

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (52:12):
that one comes with a discount code.

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: That'll be in our show notes. (52:16):
undefined
Brilliant.
Right, any more reveals beforewe move on to our last question?
Or

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (52:22):
I,

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: anything else? (52:23):
undefined

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (52:23):
so the main, so World have been in partnership
with Antonelle for a long time.

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (52:28):
Love it.

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (52:29):
also we, we fully support the muzzle movement.
Have you had the muzzle movement

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: We've had them on, we've had (52:34):
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Clara and The Muzzle moving on.

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (52:37):
thought you had.
I'm, because I've been awayin Ila, I'm behind on episodes

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: No, no, it's all right. (52:41):
undefined

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (52:43):
Clara had

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Yeah, she's amazing. (52:43):
undefined
Well, they're amazing.

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (52:46):
So, Dodge always had a muzzle movement muzzle because he
couldn't leave the house without a muzzlebecause, you know, health and safety.

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (52:55):
yeah.

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (52:56):
is being trained how to wear a muzzle

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (52:59):
Right.

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (53:00):
her muzzle movement muzzle that comes in very pretty colors

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (53:05):
Oh,

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (53:06):
video of that on our socials as well so.

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (53:08):
amazing.
Yeah, love the work theMuzzle Movement are doing.
But yeah, they were, they wereliterally one of my first,
well, first guests on, so.

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (53:15):
what they're doing is

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (53:16):
It's,

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (53:17):
and

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (53:17):
it is.

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (53:18):
can't support them enough so we're sending them big big love.

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (53:22):
love it.
So, Kari, where can our listenersfind out more about you, Canine
Hooper's World, and to get involved?

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (53:32):
if you are a trainer and want to and find out about
the instructor courses and stuff thewebsite, the new, the new evolved edition
will be out in the next few weeks.
I'm just kind of tweakingbefore it goes live.

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Excuse me. (53:50):
undefined

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (53:50):
looking at the end of March for the, the changeover.
So, if you want to kind of lookat that stuff Eva, drop me an
email, info at caninehoopersworld.
website is allthews.
caninehoopersworld.
Instagram, now, there is acaninehoopersworld Instagram,

(54:12):
but I'm rubbish on it.
I forget to post all the time.
at doddshepard, because We'vestill kept the boy's name on it.
That's where you can see all thecool stuff I'm doing with Viper

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Oh, okay. (54:25):
undefined

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (54:26):
TikTok is more Viper and me playing Hoopers and other stuff.
then we have Facebook pagegroup for the Hooper stuff.
And if you want to kind of touchbase with me and find out more
about the Carrie Anne sparkle and
It's, it's more kind of me andmy personal Facebook page, but if

(54:48):
people want to find out the sparkleinsanity levels that are my world,
then they can find me on Facebook as

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (54:55):
Is that where your Facebook lives are?
Are they on the canine hoopers?
Right.
Okay.

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (54:59):
Facebook lives
The Carrie Anne Selwyn

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (55:02):
And

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (55:03):
I'm the only Carrie Anne Selwyn on the whole of

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (55:06):
I heard this the other day on the, on the podcast.
I heard you on.
I was like, wow.

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (55:10):
it's all about the

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: just quickly, are you going (55:12):
undefined
to mention your podcast?
It's on a break, but you've gota podcast and tons of episodes.
I listened to it for the first timethe other day with Joe pay Joe pay Joe.
Yeah.

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (55:23):
Oh, oh, Joe's been on it.
I've there's like 200 episodes.

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (55:27):
Yeah.
So let's shout out to that if peoplewant to go back and have a listen.

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (55:32):
yeah, if, if you like what you're hearing, then yeah,
there is a Canine Hoop as well podcast.
You can get it whereveryou're listening to this.
I'm assuming we're on Appleand Spotify and Google and.
those good places.
But it started 2019.
I think the

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (55:51):
Wow.
Right.

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (55:55):
favorite episode was the one with Sharon Nelson.
That was episode 100.
That episode will always have such aVery special place in my heart now.
But advance warning.
If you go to the very beginningand start from episode one, I think

(56:15):
it's about eight minutes long.

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (56:17):
Okay.

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (56:18):
By the time you get to season three, It's about two hours long.

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (56:27):
Okay.

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (56:28):
I think the longest episode was something like
two hours forty five minutes and it'seither Claire Brown or Tom Candy.

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Oh, okay. (56:37):
undefined
Yeah.
Yeah.

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (56:41):
of the longest episodes.
So, had some amazing guests on.
I mean I've just mentioned three of them.
From all different walks oflife, all different places.
Trainers I've trained with personally,trainers from, pardon me, trainers from
around the yeah, it's a cool podcast.
So if you want to kind of, I thinkthe best way to explain it is if

(57:05):
you were a fly on the wall in apub listening to dog trainers.
That's that's kind ofthe vibe of the podcast.

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: I like that. (57:12):
undefined

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (57:13):
with children.
There will be swearing

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (57:15):
Right.
Well, I only found it theother day and I listened.
I've listened to one,but it's on my list now.
Right.

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (57:21):
it the other day.
Where have

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (57:23):
Yeah.

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (57:23):
you been?

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (57:24):
I don't, well, I didn't, I didn't used to listen
to podcasts until I set up this one.
So I thought I need to do myhomework and my research because
I've never been a guest on one.
And I was due to go on toCarly Edwards one last year
and we've had to rearrange it.
But I thought, well, I'mgoing to listen to it.
But now I love them.
And I listened to like.
Non dog ones and then I found I knew yourswas there, but I got it on my list This

(57:46):
is what i'm saying and I list I think Ilistened to the last one with joey So is
it coming back or you're not sure yet?

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (57:52):
I am planning on it coming back but Full disclosure
with the malinois and everything

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: It's full on. (57:59):
undefined

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (58:00):
i'm taking a break but I'm, not saying
it's never going to be back.
But at the moment we're we're on alittle holiday, but I always did breaks.
I used to do between 25 and50 episodes before a break.
And there was either four or fiveseasons, something like that.

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour (58:19):
Yeah

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (58:20):
there's a few episodes to catch up on.
Excellent.

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: fine for me right carrie, thank (58:24):
undefined
you so much For joining me on theyappy hour powered by yappily today.
I've had so much fun.
I knew it would be thank you for yourtime your Knowledge and expertise.
We'll have to get you on again inthe future if you're up for that.
But it's absolutely been amazingto speak with you today and we will

(58:46):
look forward to chatting again soon.
Thanks for coming on.

Carrie-Anne Selwyn (58:49):
Thank you so much for having me as a guest.
Take care.
Bye.

Nathan Dunleavy - The Yappy Hour: Thank you. (58:53):
undefined
What a brilliant conversationwith Carrie Ann Selwyn.
Here are some key takeawaysfrom today's episode.
Number one, hoopers is a low impactinclusive sport for all dogs.
It's great for puppies, seniors, andsensitive dogs who need structured

(59:15):
but low pressure activities.
Number two, it strengthens the bondbetween dog and their guardian.
Hoopers focuses on teamwork,trust, and clear communication
rather than speed or competition.
Number three, it's morethan just physical exercise.
It's great for mental stimulation.
The sport helps build confidence.

(59:37):
Calm, focus and problemsolving skills in dogs.
Number four, anyone can get started.
No fancy equipment or big space needed.
You can provide simple exercises.
You can practice simple exercisesat home, and it's all about
having fun with your dog.
Carry on.
Thank you so much for sharing yourpassion and your knowledge with

(59:59):
us today and to all our listeners.
If you want to learn more,check out Canine Hoopers
world and give Hoopers a go.
If you enjoyed this episode, pleaseleave a review, share it with a fellow
dog parent, and subscribe so you nevermiss an episode of the yappy hour.
Thanks for listening, andI'll see you next time.
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