TCOE!#87 OC & Gourges Georgez Music Episode!

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Welcome back everybody to another episode of the core of
entertainment hosted by me, The OC.
This is an audio only podcast available on Apple and available
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And today is Wednesday. It's a special Wednesday.
No solo work today. Bear in mind, I have a very

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special guest, a very special voice, a very special presence
in the studio, live in person today to bring this great
podcast, all of you, the listeners, yes.
And today is Wednesday. And hopefully this will help get
you over that middle hump of theweek.

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On to the weekend. Thank you so much for making
this platform a part of your day.
Thanking all of you out there for making me and one gorgeous
George. What's going on, buddy?
What's up baby? I'm back.
All right, you're back. I'm.
Back. I'm excited.
I'm excited that people are listening.
I'm I'm thrilled that people areenjoying the.

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The banter, yes. Well, not to say we knew we had
something. Yeah, absolutely.
We knew we had something. We've had conversations for
years, years and years and yearsoutside of the studio, outside
of the mics, outside of this space.
It was a good chemistry as far as conversation pieces go.

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But today it's the middle of theweek.
It's not gonna be about movies, TV shows or actors.
We are talking about something that you brought up.
So would you like to set the stage for the audience we're
talking about? We're talking.
About music today. And I think music, you know,

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just like movies, music can really make, make or break
someone. You know, people listen to music
when they're emotional. People listen to music when
they're, you know, obviously allemotions.
If it's anger, if it's sad, if it's happy, there's a music for
everything. You watch a movie, you know, you
have, you know, Hans Zimmer, he's in everything almost.

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I feel like in these making these these music suspense
noises or just making something dramatic or like without music.
If you mute a movie, for example, it's not as scary if
you're watching a scary movie. Right.
It almost brings the narrative to life.
It breathes life into that. It does, and you have to have

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the music because the music is what builds that suspense or
what builds that that sadness orwhat makes it so that you are
feeling what the characters are feeling.
And I think that's super important in every aspect.
So I mean, everyone can relate to music.
We all have one song at least that we listen to.

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I've heard people say in the past they don't listen to music.
I'm like, that's just crazy. Who doesn't listen to music?
Well, they're out there. I know that it's, it's very
fascinating to me that the concept of like, I'm not really
a big guy into music. I.
Know that's just like, serial killer vibes right there.
Well, what do you listen to? That right?
What are you listening to? Maybe this podcast will help

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encourage people to go listen tosome music.
Maybe there's some music out there.
And again, music is there's a genre, there's a song, there's a
playlist for every single person.
And that's why I really like Spotify because it kind of
builds that it makes you based on your algorithm of what you
listen to. Sometimes it makes you a

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playlist. It'll be like Sad Boy Summer or
something, you know, based on the kind of music you're
listening to. So I think that's, that's very
fun and that makes it fun that you get to have a playlist
that's built for you or to buildyour own.
So, so when it comes to music, I, you know, just like my

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movies, I definitely seem to go more on the romantic side.
And I don't know why, because I don't, I don't find myself in
the everyday world to be a crazyromantic, but I do love love
songs. You got all kinds of songs.
I love sad music. I probably listen to sad music
more than anything. You know, lots of strings, lots

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of piano, lots of vocals that are just very powerful, very
soulful. I like that kind of stuff.
And then of course, my favorite genre is just pop.
What's the most popular song right now?
What's the most popular genre, Most popular artists?
I'm all about that. I want to know what the newest,
latest and greatest we got. Tape McRae popping off right

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now. She was just in that F1 movie
and I freaking love that movie. It was so good.
And that's not usually a genre of movie that I would watch, but
it was great. But Brad Pitt's Brad.
Pitt's in it, you know, And thenI don't know the other
gentleman's name, but he was, hewas amazing in it.
Javier Bardem. He was Javier.

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Javier is amazing. He was the other actor, the
other. Demson car driver Demson Idris,
I think. Yeah, he was.
Yeah. Amazing, Amazing acting,
amazing. But you know, you got to hear
our girl Tate McRae in there. That's my friend Morgan, too.
That's one of her favorite artists.
We have to go and listen to thatjust for that.

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But I like all all popular music.
And like I said, there's some there's some really, really
soulful songs out there or just songs that really set any kind
of mood. So, for example, one of my
favorite artists, more underground, but two feet I've
ever heard of two feet, but. Heard it haven't been as stooped

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with his. One of the songs for for them is
I Feel Like I'm Drowning and just very powerful song, very
powerful lyrics. Obviously a very sad song, but
this the way that the music plays in the beginning, it's
just you know, you hear a lot ofit's it's almost like what I

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like to refer to as like sexy sad.
It's almost like stripper sad. It's a sad song, but it's
something you could also like strip to, if that makes sense.
I don't know if that makes senseto people, but it's very sad but
very, very sexy. And that's what I love about it
because I love, I love a good sexy, sad song.

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And Two Feet does that a lot in their music, so.
Really. Yeah, just very, very like, I
don't even know, I think. The word you're looking for
would maybe be described as like, it's some of those songs
when you're guiding off of emotion.
Yeah, it's the flag that carriesthe song.

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It's an emotional song, yeah. There's certain emotions that
are steeped with it. You can learn a lot by listening
to an artist. You can hear the sadness, You
can hear the pain through a lot of different styles of music,
whether it's happy and upbeat, fast-paced.
Yeah, everything from early daysBlues.

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Yes, to very similar to that that yeah, that blue sound.
You, you, you hit that one. Fascinating.
It's fascinating because they tell a story.
I mean, it can't be a coincidence that you have
someone like Eminem legitimatelytells a story through the art of
music. Oh yeah.
It's not a a rephrasing beat, a rephrasing word over a beat over

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and over again. There's an actual story there
and with all due respect to all the musicians that are out
there, you can really feel the soul and what these artists are
pouring into their craft and pouring into their music.
I think Monsters is another one that is a very, very sad one.

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Very, very sad. Derived from a place of deep,
profound pain. Yeah.
And then to the other side that you have Bob Marley, who has
injected peace and love and still resonates today, where it
is proven, it has been proven through psychology, through
doctors, that if you listen to Bob Marley every morning, every

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day, your outlook will be different on that day.
That's awesome, and I believe it.
I've been Bob Marley's music is it's like that, it's that peace.
And when I hear the music, I mean, I don't know, not everyone
can relate to this, but when I hear that music, I think of
myself like on a beach. Of course, you know, you feel

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that tiki vibe, you feel that like I'm here for summer, I'm
here for happiness, I'm here forthose good vibes.
And obviously Bob Marley was wasthere for the positivity.
That's what he was all about. So that's so true.
It is. And why do you think that for
you? Why do you think it resonates so

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hard the the romantic, the sadness, the the trepidations of
some of those songs? You know, I think that like we
discussed in earlier podcasts, just, you know, I've been
through a lot of crazy stuff in relationships, just always been

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always chose the wrong person, always they the wrong person
chooses me. And I think that I attract a
very, very niche crowd. Very, very odd.
You know, I, it seems like all my friends see red flags before
I do. And a lot of my past

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relationships, whereas I kind oftend to be like, well, let's
give them a chance. Let's give them a chance.
So seeing the the upside, yeah, seeing the positivity and also
wanting to be some type of, I don't want to say like I can, I
can fix this. Right, but.
Seeing that, seeing the light, you know, throughout the

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throughout the darkness in the coal mine is.
Oh yeah, that's a good one. That's a good one.
I, I tend to be, I like to give people the benefit of the doubt.
Usually if there's a person, let's say at work or in a crowd
or whatever, people are like, I hate that person.
I hate them for some reason. I'm usually the opposite.
I'm like, oh really? I've had a good experience with

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them. I try to find good and everyone
until you cross me and then until you cross me.
Then things go down and I might flip a table at you.
So who knows? Well, it's Teresa, but I think I
love that kind of music because it resonates to where where I've
been emotionally, emotionally. And I think like in high school,

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I didn't even know it, but therewere some people that I that I
like fell in love with just and then, you know, all throughout
that there was only a couple people.
And then in my adult life, just people that came and gone.
There were a lot of really hard ones and then there were some

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easier ones to get over. But the music for me, I think
brings me back sometimes it, it makes me stronger, of course.
And I, I have a lot of friends that will be like your playlist.
I remember one girl in school, she's like, can I borrow your
iPad or iPod back when that was a thing?
She borrowed it, she listened toit and she was like, are you OK?

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And I was like, why? She's like your playlist is just
sad. And she's like, what's wrong
with you? She's like you present so happy.
And I said, listen, at the end of the day, I'm a comedian at
heart. Like I am all about comedy.
I love to make people laugh. I love to make people smile.
But comedians are usually like sad people.

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Misery. Sad comedy.
Yes. And it's not, I'm not a
professional comedian, obviously.
I just, I tend to just, I like to make people laugh.
I like to see them laugh. If you're having a shitty day, I
want to make you laugh. And then if I do that, I feel
like you got a little sense of hope.
And there's always people. Sometimes they're just, they

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feel like they're in despair. They don't know where they're
going in life. And I don't know, I just like to
make them laugh, make them smile.
And if I can do that, that that makes me happy.
But. Well, and the beautiful part
about it, to your point, you usemusic as a tool, yeah, of a
representation for it. Well, and it's crazy 'cause when

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that girl said are you sad, I'm like, actually, yes.
But no, like when I listen to that music, yes, I get sad, but
it's the therapy of it. Like after I'm done listening to
it, I'm like, wow, I feel good. It's almost transcendent.
In a way, it is. We all have those octaves and
those notes. You know, like we talked about

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before, there's not many people that can watch Titanic without
hearing those familiar high notes of of the low points and
the high notes of sadness. Oh yeah, the whole bowels of the
ship scene with the fiddles and the flutes and the violins.
Oh my gosh, the orchestra playing, I mean, that was
beautiful. Like just.
It makes beautifully done. It does makes the film.

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And that the. I mean, James Cameron knew what
he was doing when he brought in everyone, you know, from music
to, you know, the set, whatever,you know, the whole crew,
everyone who who made that. But but.
Particularly the music. Yes, because when you when you
listen to it, especially like Celine Dion's song, that's I

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mean, I know she talks about it all the time.
She she doesn't love the song orI don't know if it's Kate
Winslet, one of them. They it, it's been heard so many
times, but to us, the audience, that song.
I mean, you only hear a few of those notes and you know exactly
where it's. From you hear that flute like
you said, and then you have an artist like Celine who can hit

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those notes and I don't know anyone else who could have done
that song. No, and it speaks to the level
of craft. Yes.
Where you can, because you're talking about music.
Yeah, if you can close your eyesand listen to a song, or you can
close your eyes and listen to anartist and instantaneously be
washed over with sadness, with happiness, with tears of joy.

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And yeah, yeah, that's exactly it.
I I think that's exciting. Something else with music, I
think obviously popularity, but also I think I want to touch on
one of my favorite songs of all times.
And this is so funny, but back in what, the 2000s, early 2000s?

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I was watching Mad TV at the time.
I mean Oh my God Mad TVI think that designed my personality.
I love SNL nothing. You do you do represent a lot of
oh man, the that's a perfect wayI.
Mad TV that cast was everything but they always had artists yes

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that was come on yes and a couple of those artists actually
became one of my favorite ones, one of my favorite songs of all
times. Like I have many songs
obviously, but is all the thingsshe said my tattoo OK.
Have you heard of them there? There are two girls and they
were there. I don't want to speak too much

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on them just because I don't I don't want to get anything
wrong, but 2 girls that pretty much came up with a band they
for their music they had like a lesbian love affair.
They were Russian or they are Russian.
And in the end, I think they were just saying, I'm not 100%
sure, but I think they said thatit's they were just making it as

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like for the music, it wasn't real that they were in love with
each other. But it's their band name is
it's, it's tattoo t.A.T.u, all the things she said.
It's just, you know, when you hear it, you when you hear the
music, when you hear the song, it's just so good.
And I don't even know what genreof music it would be.

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It's just. Maybe on its own a little bit.
It could be, I mean, they sing an English version of the song,
they sing a Russian version of the song, and then they have
multiple songs that they've donethroughout their careers that
are Russian and English. And so it's kind of fun to learn
the Russian, the Russian versionsometimes because I know it

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doesn't translate the same in English, but it's actually
pretty cool. All right.
So that's one of definitely one of my favorite songs, I would
say. But by then and again, I saw
them on Mad TV. I don't really know who they
were before. And then I fell in love with
them. Just started listening to all
their music. I loved their romance on stage.

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I love their romance and their music videos.
Even if it wasn't real, you know, or allegedly, was it real?
We don't know. Who's to say?
Who's to say, and who cares at the end of the day?
Their their representation, yeah, of their art form.
Their art was so good and they and no matter where you where
you are on the spectrum like I think you can, everyone could

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relate to the songs because again, they had love songs.
It was those love, love songs and a little bit of rock, a
little bit of I don't even know.I don't even know what their
categories. I have to look that up.
But other artists I want to talkabout are obviously Britney
Spears and Christina Christina Aguilera, man, I mean.

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Redoing a genre, the staple of agenerational.
Oh my God I'm a 90s baby so. Both of them.
Both of them. I mean, that was in the mix of
like the boy band era. That was the start of the young
teenager becoming famous. Essentially Justin Bieber before

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Justin Bieber. Yeah, yeah.
I mean, we had Justin Timberlake, all of these kids,
Christina, Brittany, I think Justin Timberlake was on there.
You know, they started off in Mickey Mouse Club, I believe,
and they were just, you know, they auditioned to go on the
show. They were singing.
And then look at where they are now.

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I mean the one of the biggest. Well, it's recognizable.
It's recognizable to the 10th degree of you play any of those
songs, whether It's Beautiful byChristina, whether it's Hit Me
Baby One More Time or any of thepowerful ballads that **NSYNC
has done, or Bringing Sexy Back,which related.

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It's it speaks a lot. Yeah.
It speaks a lot to create a song, write it, develop the
music, produce the music. And I think this would resonate
with people. Oh yeah.
And it's my message out there. Well, and it still plays today.
I mean, you know, you have a movie and sexy back.
You know, that song plays in almost everything where the, you

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know, the actors like walking through whatever and being sexy,
like I'm bringing sexy back. You know, you hear that Britney
Spears played in almost everything, I feel like.
Right, right. And then remember how she did
the, the, the Pepsi commercial and they're like, let's make it
into a song, Britney. And you know, the BA BA BA and

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she's like the joy of Pepsi. And you know, I remember that
and I don't know that many people do now.
But like, I used to love that. Just seeing that commercial.
Like, didn't I mean, I was like,sure, let's get a Pepsi, but
right. I mean, if you weren't for Pepsi
before. If you weren't for Yeah,
exactly. And like Brittany and Christina,
just two staples. And I mean, they're two

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different artists, but definitely in the same category.
Yeah, in their own, they're definitely within their own
respected talents for sure. But they're definitely, I think
they started that whole thing of, you know, the the writing,
They're not like as compartmentalized as a Taylor

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Swift would be, which is more country, you know, country pop
little bit. Christina and Brittany both
stayed within their wheelhouse and really just kicked the
doorway open for the backup dancers, The lighting and the
concerts, the lyrics. They themselves were the
cassette albums, the CD. Oh my gosh.

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And you knew it when you saw it because it was so to your point,
it was so so. Their lyrics and their voices
were so fixating that you couldn't help but not know who
they were. Whether you like the music or
not, you might not be the targetdemographic.
But you know it. You've.
Heard it. Oh, anybody knows.
I mean, Britney Spears at that point, you know, there wasn't a

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single person growing up. Oh, my gosh, Through the 90s and
the early 2000s, it was like, I know, you know.
The song, you know, like, and I think her early voice, like the
you know that that's like you heard that and you're like, OK,
that's Britney. And then you have Christina
who's like like she does that. You sing with her voice and then

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you have both those artists. But like the second you hear it,
that little cadence in their voice, you know exactly which
artist it is. So, but I mean those are two
big, like you said, big staples that.
Really brought pillars of like the solo female Yeah
singer-songwriter one woman show.

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Yeah, and I think they you touched based on the backup
dances and stuff too. They brought they brought
performance to music to where I think, you know, you have people
like Whitney Houston, they don'tneed to perform like as far as
like moving around and dancing and going crazy, which Whitney

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still did a lot of that stuff onstage, but her voice alone did
it. And not saying that Brittany and
Christina needed the help or anything, just that was their
vibe. It was when you go to their
concert, when you go to their show, you're expecting them to
do outfit changes to, do you know, hair flips, hair changes,

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background dancers are interacting with them.
You know, Britney did a lot of stuff with chairs.
It was always a chair on stage. It was just like.
Used more chairs than Mark Wahlberg.
Does to do dips on yeah, there was chairs everywhere on stage
and she'd dance around her hair would shake and that was a big
thing for for Britney and Christina.

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Hers was like big hair, big dresses, stuff like that.
So it's just kind of cool that there are these artists that I
don't think will ever let us go.And again, like Mad TVI feel
like these artists designed me to the music that I like now.
Because old Britney, like she had those sad songs like from

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the bottom of my broken heart. Like sometimes, you know, and
then Christina had a lot of sad songs to those songs were like
sad pop songs. But you know, if you were just
going through a breakup or whatever, those songs were like
the songs you listen to. Yeah, therapy.
Therapy songs. Therapeutic for sure.

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Therapeutic songs for sure. So I really like those artists
even though like now you know, you listen to them and it's just
sometimes it's just you're cleaning the house and you're
like, play Britney Spears to your Alexa and she just plays
the music and you don't even need to know lyrics, you just
know them. So it's very fun, very exciting

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stuff. I think also what I what I enjoy
about music is kind of like going back to Brittany Christina
is kind of the what I consider and for my era is the oldies
like Linkin Park SIM 41. OK, You know, My Chemical

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Romance is also up there. There's a lot of these, you
know, to me. Yeah, it definitely
rediscovering. There was nothing more
captivating and nothing more daunting than when my children
would say, hey, you know, that really old, old song.

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It goes like all the small things.
And I'm sitting there like, Oh my God, you're like I that's
blink 182. Jesus Christ.
Yes, yes, we are. And I do know that song.
And then she said, who sings it?I'm like Blink 182, all right,
or Psalm 41. And it's fascinating to me

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because I equate a lot of those artists as the 90s as being the
best decade. Oh my gosh.
Of music, I feel. Honored to be that I had lived
through that. Yes, because these are men and
women and groups then redefined a genre.
A lot of them grew up listening to The Beatles, the British
Invasion, whether it was, you know, I mean, there's certain

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bands that will remain immortal,like Metallica, who has been
around Queen. Queen.
Oh, my God. One, you just have the staple,
the Stones, The Beatles. Yeah.
In the 90s they took all those familiar elements, the
instruments, the beats, the octaves, and then they recreated
and redefined a genre into Blink182, into some 41 and The

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Offspring and Linkin Park. You know, you see this mold of
familiar tunes, familiar beats, and then you get to even another
level in Slipknot, in Corn, Marilyn Manson, and it just
keeps going to the radical side of like System of a Down.

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And it goes even further into the artistic hip hop side in
N.W.A, Cypress Hill, Run DMC. And it's something very unique
that you experienced. Myself and a few others out
there experience this or this aura, this change in the tides
of music. Yeah, everyone was listening to

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it. Yeah, yeah.
Everybody was. Everyone and I, I feel the same
way. You know, going off a little, a
little off topic, but I feel so honored to have lived through
the 90s too, because I feel likeDisney released their best
movies in the 90s. We had Mulan, we had Pocahontas,
we had, you know, obviously likethe Ogs, The Jungle Book, you

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know, the all those were earlieron Lion King was yeah, like all
these movies that are staples and again, the music in those
those movies. Powerful music.
Powerful music, powerful art, and I mean the people behind
those, I feel like the the Movies Now they're they're good,
but they're just not on the samelevel.

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And every generation might say that maybe right?
But you know what I mean. But then again, we also got a
new Aladdin. Yeah.
Which was a remake off of, like,it's a live action version.
Yeah. You know, and it's funny that
you bring up, you know, the Disney side of things when it
comes to, like, the music, like.Oh.
My gosh, everybody. Everybody knows who Randy Newman
is. Like you got a friend in me
which is one of the one. Of the greatest.

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Stories, I mean, come on. Yeah, there's, it doesn't really
resonate with today's youth, notmuch as it should, because
they're revisiting it. They're going back.
And obviously one could argue that when you have Donald Glover
and Childish Gambino voicing Simba and Beyoncé voicing Nala,

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you're going to have some music in there.
You're going to have, but it's not the same, Yeah, as what they
did before. Right, and I think that I don't
know why it wasn't the same, butor why it isn't the same, but it
was just, you know, like you watch Pocahontas and you heard

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colors of the wind. You know, it was just what a
powerful song, you know, like she's talking about like the
beauty and and the pain that she's talking about with just
bringing everyone together. Doesn't matter what color they
are. It doesn't matter what what's
going on with them. They just the colors of the

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wind. It was just like you heard that
song. You knew it was beautiful.
It was just well written stuff back in back in those days.
And they still do. It's just I feel like when I
watch like a movie like Moana, it doesn't hit the same.
It's beautiful still. The songs are great.
The art is great, but it's not like if I go back and watch,

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hey, you know, Pocahontas, it's so nostalgic, right?
If I go back and watch Mulan, I mean, amazing.
Like it's so many things that you just go back.
There's one film that I will 110% agree with you on which
you'll get a kick out of The Aristocats.
Oh my gosh. OK, Yeah.

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What a great movie. Talk about music.
Yeah, yeah. Real music incorporated real
instruments and the scenery of the cats and the alley cats and
the feral cats. Oh my gosh, yeah, what a great
movie. You.
Can't get past like the music that it was, you know, inspired
through. Lady and the Tramp is another

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one. Oh yeah, yeah.
Come on, I mean, come on, Lady and the Tramp is a is a is a
hopeless romantics, you know, prospect of two.
You know, guy meets girl. Girl is a little too good,
right? Better for the guy.
You know, the guy's out of his league.
It's the archetypes of that story still come today.

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Oh yeah. But you cannot get past they're
remaking all these. They are they're remaking them
and sometimes I enjoy them, but other times I'm like, if you're
going to remake them, I feel like they need to put more.
I feel like a lot of Times Now it's just like, who can we put
in the movie that people will watch?

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Which I get it from a business standpoint, yes, but also let's
put people in the movie that look like the the originals.
This doesn't mean it's a bad thing to change it up, but if
you're going to remake a movie, people want to be like, OK,
yeah, they look like that character.
Familiar. They look like that, that person

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or they look like whatever. And I get it.
We're in, we're in a different time now.
Everyone and everyone deserves ashot.
I just feel like when we're doing a movie, even when we're
doing the music, sometimes you're like, man, why did they
choose that person for the vocals?
That person doesn't match or that person.
Like I was very skeptical about Melissa McCarthy playing Ursula.

(31:26):
I was really, I was really scared for that.
I was like, how is Melissa McCarthy?
Her funny because she's amazing.But when you think of Melissa
McCarthy, I don't think, see which I I don't think that I
didn't really. I was scared for how that was
going to come out. That is so daunting and shocking

(31:48):
to me because that was one of the only redeeming qualities
that I when I heard that they were going to do it, I was like.
You're like, OK, that's. Fucking brilliant.
Yeah, I. So she can make you laugh?
You don't think she can sing? You know what?
I mean, and that's, I think talented.
I mean, I'll give her that. And that's what I think for me
maybe like I underestimated her talent, right?

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And she did so good. She did great like she did.
She did justice to that role. Of course.
So one of my favorite songs was cut out from the live action
Mermaid which was the the cooking song where Slash in the
crab is in the kitchen in. Oh, oh, yes.
Lepa song. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Lepa song. Lepa song.

(32:29):
I love Lepa song. Yeah, I know.
They should have kept that. He is like this basically for
any sea creature. It's a House of horrors because
he's chopping up all the fish and he's getting doucheed in the
flour and the butter and everything that.
That was actually really funny. But I think Le Paso in French
means little fish, Yes, so. And it's a horror movie.
Yeah, it is Watching it, it. Is that's so that's funny.

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Yeah. I think they should have kept
that in, but obviously they wanted to go a more realistic
route. And I kind of like the concept
in the live action where they made it like the Prince and and
his family and stuff, and it wasn't like an island or
wherever they were. Like it was more real than just
some random prints like living on some random place.

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So they have to make it relatable to today.
They do. They have to, but at the same
time, there's certain things that just you, you really
shouldn't, you know? It works so good the first time.
Yeah. Especially with the music,
because this whole episode is derived from music and the

(33:35):
feelings. Yeah, anybody out there can
argue that a soundtrack or a score to a film will make or
break the film. Yeah, absolutely it will.
Big time. And to your point, I mean, you
got some good pipes. You can.
You know what I mean? Thank you.
Well, maybe hear some of that before we get out of here.

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Yeah. Absolutely.
But I'm going to throw a curveball at you when it relates
to music. If there's any song, 2 songs out
there that sum up you and your childhood or your life, what
would it be? If there's two, I have my 2.
And I always propose this question because it's a very

(34:17):
different take on like music. It's very hard to find a song
that kind of sums up who you are, what you're about, and kind
of like you're. You're the backdrop that is you
for me. I have two of them.
Wow, OK, OK. I'll have to hear yours after or
before. Go right ahead.
No, no, you have the floor. You know it's.
Kind of on the spot and I know that's kind of on the spot.

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One of them that's it's newer, it was in the Barbie soundtrack.
Billie Eilish is what I was madefor.
I just when you hear that, that piano, when you hear her, you
know, that little high pitched little thing she does and sorry,
that was not good. I I butchered that.
Sorry, Billy. But when she does that little

(34:59):
that thing with her voice and what I was made for like those
are such powerful lyrics she's talking about.
Why was she put here? What is she made for?
What's what's her purpose? I think we can all relate to
that. Oh, absolutely.
I think that's a song that that I could listen to and just that
probably says who I am says whatI'm about.

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It includes that sadness, includes that that beauty too.
And another one, this is so funny is it is it's Coldplay
paradise really. And that's the song.
I know this is very morbid, but that's the song that I'd want
played up like my funeral. The song is, I don't know, it

(35:46):
just it's so peaceful to me whenI hear that song, I just if I
was like, you know, heaven forbid if I was going to die
right now, like that's the song I'd want to hear while I'm going
up. Hopefully, hopefully, I don't
know. It's on mic now and that's the
beauty of what we're doing rightnow is so people will hear this.

(36:09):
And I, and I hope that's the song like to me that when I hear
that dream of paradise, you know, like that just, and their
voices together are just so beautiful.
And that's good. Well, Chris Martin, I, I don't
he's a Unicorn of a, of an artist.
I mean, the songs, the writing, the lyrics, and when you can

(36:31):
display it. Because that's also been a big
thing too, is that there have been many, many bands that play
other people's music that didn'twrite their own music.
And with Chris Martin, I mean, like the guy unfair.
Unfair that the guy is that talented and he can sing.
I mean, he's just, you know, ensconced in whatever

(36:53):
amalgamation of like, yeah, I wonder what that guy looks like
when you hear that voice, right.Because it's tough sometimes to
resonate what people, why don't what that person looks like.
I wonder, you know, when you first hear this is I'm going to
age myself. When you first hear like the
police, you're like, oh, man, this has got to be like a reggae

(37:15):
guy. And then you find out it's it's
a white guy, right? You know, and you're like that
voice comes out of him. Same with like Teddy Swims.
You listen to Teddy Swims and you're like, that's definitely
like a black guy. Or a brother, you know, like
some type of soul and he. You you're like, wait a minute.
But it's crazy that that like voices resonate to looks too

(37:39):
like it doesn't matter. We just kind of envision what
the person looks like. Yeah.
And I think a lot of artists don't need to even be seen.
No. Their voices, like you said,
their voices are what matters, right?
So when you're like, wow, that'swhat that person looks like,
right? And it's kind of wild to think
about, but then you also kind ofcreate in your head an
amalgamation of what this personmay look like or this person,

(38:03):
you know what, what their presence is like on stage.
And I think getting back to likeColdplay is a great example
because. Yeah, because I never really
think of what he looks like. Right.
But when you hear that paradise,when you hear yellow, when you
hear clocks, when you hear any of those songs or him for the
weekend or what have you, you get an image, a display, a

(38:25):
story, maybe a a short vignette plays in your head.
When you hear certain songs, youknow, and the beauty of it, you
have a very unique artist of today.
You know the big one right now is Ariana Grande is a big one,
right? Now she's a big one right now.
And aside from her, her performances, her lyrics, and

(38:49):
now Wicked, obviously, you know,with big, big shoes, big shoes
kind of like filling that void, you know, But the presence on
stage says a lot because you fill that auditorium with
people, People come to see you perform.
And then you get people like, weirdly enough, like Coldplay,

(39:10):
Taylor Swift, Imagine Dragons, Post Malone, Those are some of
the big ones that put on the best shows, right?
And it's not just their voices, their message.
Lady Gaga too. That's a big lady, obviously.
Like. What a There's another one.
You can act, you can sing, You Can Dance.
And I mean, there's so many, butlike you, they go on stage and

(39:32):
they just, you're like, wow. I think Benson Boone right now
is really big. He started very, I don't know if
he started on TikTok. I can't remember where he
started, but he started coming out with like some small songs
and then he's big. Sabrina Carpenter.
I mean, holy crap, she's, she's,I'll, I might have said this

(39:53):
before or not, but I'm so attracted to her.
I don't know what it is. She has such a beautiful face.
Like if I was straight. Sabrina Carpenter, where you at?
That's like she's just so beautiful and I don't know what
it is about her. Her face to me is beautiful.
She's a an amazing actress. Her everything about her I love.

(40:14):
So when I hear her songs and especially like her, you know,
her breakup songs are are reallyfunny because she puts in she
puts in some effort into these songs, into her music videos.
She brings back a lot of that like Olden Day feel with her
videos, But then the music's more relatable to today.

(40:36):
So I think that's that's anotherartist that's just like blown up
so much and there's a lot. And that's why I love having you
here, because a lot of the artists I know, but I'm not the
target audience for, you know, but I'm still very aware.
I got four daughters. They all know they're big, big,
big, big fans. I mean, and neither, none of

(40:58):
them could all be, you know, further, further apart.
My oldest, my oldest stepdaughter, she was there for
the the Brittany Christina sync.And then the second one, big
Blink 182 system of a down Fall Out Boy, you know, the whole
rock. Yeah, You know, And then

(41:19):
weirdly, my son, he just, he became a sponge as a teenager.
Like he would listen to the rockthat I used to listen to, the
classic rock. He used to listen to some
oldies, but it was through the lens of like video games that
played old 50s and 60s. Yeah, that would make sense.

(41:42):
That makes sense. Or we obviously know the
Internet nowadays when people goviral, obviously they.
That song Dreams by Fleetwood Mac.
He loved that song and he then started going through the whole
catalog of all their music. And then it resonates with
people on different levels. And of course, every every kid,
every person out there has that one song that resonates so, so

(42:06):
passionately with them. Yeah.
Well, and I think that brings meto kind of another topic is like
music recycling. I think that's very that's a big
thing right now. Elaborate.
The biggest one, the biggest oneright now is I'm sure everyone
knows it, but anxiety keep on trying me.

(42:28):
You know you. Everyone knows that song, but
it's that background to but it that original song was you
didn't have to cut me off. Now I'm just somebody that I
used to know. So like there's a lot of that
recycling. That song was popular, probably,

(42:50):
I don't know, you know, 2021, maybe, I don't know, I don't
remember when it came out, but. The song that you're referring
to is Somebody I Used to Know byGautier.
So Gautier, that was massive around like 2012, 2011, maybe
earlier. Yeah, you know, And once again

(43:11):
just took the world by storm. Yeah, great song, great music
video, powerful message. Obviously talking about I cared
for you once if I saw you on thestreet.
You're just somebody that I usedto know.
And now we have a new version ofthe song with the same beat.

(43:33):
But it's anxiety, which I think resonates a lot more with
today's generation. Youth.
Which we've all had anxiety, we all do.
I think it's just it's more discussed now I feel like.
Yeah, definitely. Well, anxiety is always been
there. It's always been there.
It's just like that inside out character.
I feel like I'm definitely anxiety, like I'm, I'm always

(43:53):
running around in my head, but it's there.
Like we're there. We're all there.
But another music recycling would be The Boys Mine now by
Ariana Grande, but it's recycledfrom Monica and Brandy song The
Boys Mine. So it's like taking lyrics,

(44:15):
taking bits and pieces of something that was older and
popular and bringing it back. And I think that's what a lot of
music was doing today, which I think is very smart.
Really, I think it's very smart for the music industry.
I think a lot of people don't like it too because you're like
wait a minute like don't use that BI know that B or.

(44:39):
That song, that those lyrics, don't go with that.
Song and you and you hear a lot of times too, like people like,
oh, they stole that song, they stole, they stole the lyrics,
they stole whatever. But a lot of times they're
actually working with the artistand the company and whoever to
so just maybe bring the song back, remind people like when
you hear that beat, you're like,Oh, I know the original song.

(45:02):
And I know there's a ton of songs out there that do this
that do the recycling of, of songs.
Trying to think of anyone else, but Ariana definitely comes to
mind. The Gautier song comes to mind.
Trying to think who else does some recycling.
I'll be honest with you brother,I don't listen to Recycled.

(45:22):
Stuff you know. I'm I'm very, I don't
compartmentalize myself with music.
I listen to everything. It depends on what I'm listening
to, and they were listening to in the truck, listening to in
the gym, listening to here in the studio.
There's songs for everything. And I think that when it really
boils down to the centerpiece ofartistic integrity and artistic

(45:44):
rendering, you want to be familiar.
You want to be familiar. And that's probably where a
pessimistic view on recycling music would be.
We're going to use something that would be considered widely
popular and we're going to kind of bring it back, but not before
we remind people where it came from, you know?

(46:04):
And they have to know, obviously, right?
I mean, like, you can't just Willy nilly take somebody's the
hard work produced music and then, you know, sing over it.
Right. And I mean, and I know it's been
done. People have done it.
And then they get, you know, I think to me like that's, that's
awful. You can't take someone's work

(46:25):
and just throw something else onit, right?
If you get the artist or the company or the label behind it,
fine. But you know, I mean, it doesn't
happen as often. I feel like now with the world
we're in, with AI, with stuff like that, that stuff can be
caught quick. Very.
Very and people catch things really quick now too, like you

(46:46):
see all the videos on YouTube orTikTok that are like, remember
this song? What about this?
And then it's these comparison videos and songs and you're
like, holy crap, that song does sound but but those songs
particularly maybe didn't get the permission.
But again, you think about the music industry everyone's

(47:07):
working with, everyone of songs are gonna sound similar.
Well, and it's funny because youbrought up a very interesting
point when you're talking about like generational differences
with music. Yeah, one of the big polarizing
ones back in the day was ICP andClown Posse.
They were very polarized. Oh, my gosh, I remember that.
We can wear them. We can wear the shirts at

(47:29):
school, Yeah. Very, very polarizing.
And now, today, you have the suicide boys.
Yep. Oh yeah.
So they're not the same, but every.
Similar. Yeah, but every, every
generation has that one group that was we don't really like
the message here. We don't really like what
they're. But at the center of it, they're

(47:51):
artists, and this is their craft, right?
Well, and if you don't want to listen to it, you don't listen
to it. Exactly exactly how it should
be. I think and that's The thing is
like, you know, there's, there'sartists out there for everyone
and there's artists out there for, you know, not for everyone.
I think that's but that's that'swhat's funny.

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And I another funny thing that Iwas going to bring up was I
don't people, you guys can probably all relate to this.
I get really excited for the newyear, not because it's a new
year, but for my Spotify rewind.I think it's very funny to see
what I've listened to, what my genres are.
But every year I swear it alwayssays Taylor Swift.
And I know it's a freaking lie because I'm not listening to

(48:36):
Taylor Swift that often. Interesting.
And it's and it's weird, like she might be featured in a song
or two, but I'm not listening toher that often.
And every year for like probablythe past three or four years, I
swear it's had Taylor on my top.And I'm like, what?
So I don't, I don't know why? I don't know, I don't know.

(48:57):
Not like I don't listen to her. Like I'm not going to lie to you
and say I'm not listening, but as one of my top artists, it
just doesn't. I never know what that means,
but I always get very excited for the Spotify Rewind because I
think it sums up and that's the whole point of it.
It sums up your year. It sums up the traumas you've
gone through. It sums up the excitement you've

(49:18):
gone through. And I really like that.
It kind of tells you like your genre was this, your vibe was
this. So I don't know all you
listeners out there, you probably can relate to this
because we've all looked at our Spotify Rewind.
Unless you guys are Apple Music people, which is fine too.
I don't know if Apple does that,but I'm a Spotify guy.
Yeah. But I'm an also an Android guy

(49:40):
and I know a lot of you will probably come and come for me
and, and and who knows? I'm an Android guy.
I'm a Spotify guy. Well, hey, we're played on.
We're played right now on Spotify.
Which I love. Which and that that's the that's
we're we're welcoming that. I'm glad that you, I'm glad that
you polished everything up with the Swifties because and.
That's The thing is, you know, nothing against the Swifties.

(50:02):
I definitely don't, I'm not trying to offend anyone in any
way, but it's just weird that Taylor's always on my and I
don't know if it's just because she's in the the the genre I
listen to, but it's weird that she's always popped up in my
top, top listens or top artists,I should say.
Not just top listens, but it's it's very interesting.

(50:25):
So I'm curious to see who this year will be probably Billie
Eilish. Birdie is another one.
I don't know if you know Birdie,but very underground.
Well, I don't know if she's underground now, but her songs
are very sad. Her her voice is very powerful.
One of her songs, Wings I can really resonate to just I

(50:48):
believe it was in Vampire Diaries.
OK, people can probably relate to that, listeners can relate to
that, but just a beautiful voice, a beautiful artist, but
again, very sad. She doesn't play too many happy
songs. So but I I love that you brought
up where you listen to these songs like when you're at the

(51:10):
gym, you're probably playing more upbeat stuff.
I wouldn't assume that you'd be listening to sad stuff.
Maybe if you're running and you're trying to, you know, but
usually you're listening to somebumping music, you're.
Listening to yeah, it honestly depends.
It depends on the environment. It depends on the stage or the
setting that you're in. And a lot of, I think a lot of

(51:30):
people, that's where Spotify, that's where Apple Music, that's
where a lot of it's so accessible now.
It's so accessible for people tolisten to and it builds a
playlist for you. It builds a.
It just kind of rediscovers and redefines your genre into what
it is that you like, you know? And that's, I think the

(51:52):
fascinating thing I love about Spotify, Apple, all these
streaming is you think about back in the day, we had to load
music. You have to pay 199 for the
song. And then it was like you load it
onto your iPod or whatever and then you know, you'd have to

(52:12):
reload your next song. And and then it was so smart
when they came out with Spotify came out.
I think a lot of this started with Netflix.
Netflix was a huge pillar. Where can I get all my movies in
one where I don't have to put a DVD, where I don't have to worry
about scratching? All I have to worry about is
having good Internet. Before that, Spotify was the

(52:35):
predecessor to like the iTunes Store, you know, and prior to
that, I mean, you're talking to someone that used to buy records
we. Used to buy CDs.
We used to buy cassettes and theironic thing about Netflix was
that it was mail away for. DVDs.
I do remember. I mean, shit, I do remember.
Think about that first. I.

(52:55):
Do I remember that it was in themail?
And then you send it back. That's right, I forgot that even
was a thing. That was Netflix.
That's true. That wasn't.
That fascinating how that all changed.
Fascinating. And that's how Spotify and the
music went too. So last things I'll touch up on,
I think is my love for karaoke. I absolutely love, love, love

(53:16):
karaoke. And anytime there's an
opportunity, I'll take it. And I think a lot of a lot of
times when I go to like a karaoke bar, whatever, my
friends already will just put meon the list.
They don't even they don't even ask.
I just get put on the list and one of my friends always asks
like, aren't you nervous? And I'm like, no, I think I'm a

(53:38):
natural performer in my head andI, I practice at home.
I really do like, I will have sometimes a full on concert just
for my cats with a microphone and my little speaker and, and
just karaoke songs like ours. And I have a list of just songs,

(53:58):
like go to songs and different categories, different genres,
everything. If someone's like, hey, I can
you go sing this? Can you sing this?
And I just have like categories of categories, anything from
Demi Lovato to, you know, one, any of her songs, anything from

(54:19):
like Stacey's mom, you know, songs that and I sing different
genres of music, which is funny.So when I sing them, I also try
to sound like the artist. So like I did with Britney, you
know, if I'm singing a Sum 41 song, I'm going a little deeper
in my voice. What would you say is your
favorite one to sing? Like if I asked you to pull one

(54:40):
out right now and sing one, whatwould it be?
What would it be? One that you would be able to
just go. I got it.
Probably I don't want to be anything other than what I've
been trying to be lately. All I have to do is think of me
and have Peace of Mind. And that's that's one of my

(55:02):
favorite ones. Gavin.
Gavin DeGraw. OK.
I don't want to be. That's a everyone can relate to
this. If you were in the early 2000s,
I believe One Tree Hill. I don't know if everyone
remembers that starring Chad Michael Murray and Sophia Bush
or whoever was in it, but you heard that song like I don't

(55:25):
want to be. And then you know that they had
that where they're at the lockers and there's the drama.
And it was, I just remember the WBS One Tree Hill.
And it's just so funny to me because that song, when you hear
that song, you think One Tree Hill, Like everyone knows that.
Everyone that watched One Tree Hill, that's the song.

(55:45):
So again, music is so powerful because it brings us there.
But yeah, that's that's one of my go to karaoke songs.
When I was on a cruise ship, they had the voice of the ocean.
So it was the voice, but it was of the ocean.
This was when I was in Alaska and I actually performed on
stage for 1000 people. Biggest performance I've done.

(56:08):
1000 people were in that audience and it was so well
staged and well put. They actually had us performing
and practicing for days and thenthey had us go on stage.
There was actual chairs that thepeople hit the button if they
liked our voice and turned around.

(56:29):
It was so cool. Probably one of my favorite
memories. But I sang Michael Bublé 'cause
he's another one of my like again, sexy, sad.
It's in the name Michael Bublé. Exactly.
So I'll, I'll leave it with this.
I love music. It's part of my everyday world.

(56:50):
And if you know, if you want me to come back, let me know.
Let the core of entertainment know and maybe I'll come and
actually sing a full song for you.
Oh, I'd love that. I'd love that because gorgeous
George, let's be fair, You're, you're a, you're a pretty big
voice here. I think when the audience hears
this, this is going to be episode 3.

(57:12):
Yeah, I'm excited to. Resonate even harder and I know
we. Got some more in the books.
Oh, absolutely. And the fact that people, the
outreach and what this platform has done and with people such as
yourself and a few others, it's the voice, it's the tempo, it's
the personality. Because not unlike music that we

(57:34):
were just speaking about, peopleknow your voice and people hear
your voice. I want to be, I want to be
perfectly clear. People hear this and all the, I
get these analytics and metrics of where this podcast is played
around the US, where it's playedacross the pond in Europe as far

(57:56):
as Manila. So people are hearing this,
they're hearing you, and they'remaking a an image of what?
It is. We talked about that, we talked
about that image. So I wonder what you guys think,
what I look? Like you're going to be back.
I'll be. Back and if you have.
Anybody you want to shout out to?
I know the next episode that you're coming on, hopefully with

(58:19):
a collab with another individual.
We won't say who, but we can tease the audience on whether
she will be here, hopefully. So I'm going to give you the
floor on that one before we wrapthis up.
You know, I don't want to make any spoilers, but I'm definitely
going to say I want you to join me next time and I think that

(58:42):
we're going to have a lot of fun.
It's it's a lot more it's a lot more entertaining than you think
it is, but it's kind of weird toalso hear your voice.
But after a while you're you just get used to it.
So don't be scared, be excited because this is the platform

(59:03):
that's that's going big. It's resonating.
And I think if she comes here and if she's here and when she's
here, I think, and I know, I don't think.
I know deep within my bones, I think that that collab, your
next, your next piece that you're going to bring to this is

(59:24):
going to be a lot of fun. And I always thank you.
Thank you so much for always being a part of this and making
this a part of your day. Thank you.
Thank you so much. I'm glad to be here.
All right. That's awesome.
Hey, for everybody out there, thank you so much for making
this platform a part of your day.
Thank you so much for making Gorgeous George here and your
boy OCA part of your day on Wednesday and hopefully,

(59:48):
hopefully Monday, Wednesday, whenever this is released.
We allowed you into this world and we're talking about music
and how it resonates with so many different things out there,
whether it's movies, TV shows, It is something that pulls all
of us together and bonds all of us together.
We all know soundtracks. We all know beats.
We all know harmonies. We all know voices.

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nonetheless. Jump down into the comments
section. Who is your favorite artist?

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What is the most recognizable voice that comes to your mind
when you're hearing music? Whatever it is, whatever your
thoughts, jump down to the comments section below and let
me know. Peace.