TCOE!#91 A Very Jurassic Episode with The Coach

Welcome back The Coach! Here to talk about everything Jurassic Park and Jurassic World! A in depth look at both trilogies and rebirth! Thanks for listening!!

Episode Transcript

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Welcome back everybody to another episode of The Core of
Entertainment, an audio only podcast available on Apple and
available on Spotify. And today is Wednesday.
It's a special Wednesday collab,a special Wednesday episode
dedicated to one of the greatestfranchises of all time.
It's had its UPS, it's had its downs.

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We are talking about the Jurassic Park trilogy.
We are talking about the Jurassic World trilogy, and we
are talking about the recently released Jurassic World Rebirth.
And to do this is a very, very special friend of mine, a
regular listener of the show, a regular person here at the core
of entertainment. Available on Apple and Spotify.
Welcome back the coach. What's up, buddy?

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How are you, man? Hey man, how's it going?
It's going good. So we have some thoughts,
general thoughts. The audience knows you.
The audience knows your voice. They love the first episode that
we've done. Part of the big feedback that
we've gotten from most of that is your love for Jurassic Park.
Aside from sports coaching, training, all of that to your

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vernacular, it captured you. Yeah.
OK. So it's almost what is it about
30 years on now since the first one.
Yeah, really. I mean, what 1993?
Believe so, yeah. So 30 years on, how do you sit
with this trilogy so far? So I mean, I love it, but that's

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because I love dinosaurs, right?Like I try not to attach the
things too much. Each set right brought its own
set of challenges, different setof fans, right?
You can't beat the originals. I mean, just the original movie
alone is my favorite movie of all time.

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Like, you cannot beat anything in that movie.
I mean, I still remember seeing it and just being like, I'm
pretty sure they recorded a realdinosaur.
You know, they were so ahead of themselves there.
You know, now they're just trying to captivate so many
different things. Whereas back in 93, like they
threw dinosaurs on the screen and a lot of us as an audience

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had never really seen anything like that, right?
Which is why I think it was, it came out of the gate so strong
and and using that original book, which we'll talk about
here and you know, at some pointin this episode.
It was such an amazing book and they did such a good job of kind
of sticking to the script, skipping over some parts, but

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really sticking to the script from the original book.
And it that book is stillwell sold worldwide.
So I think it just had such an amazing audience and it brought
something so unique to us then. And they've had their challenges
to keep that going for sure. But I think a lot of sequels,
prequels, anything in between, they run into those same

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challenges now too, right? Not everybody gets it, right.
And I think Jurassic Park, I do think that, you know, Jurassic
World, at least the first one, really did a good job of
recapturing its original audience, right?
And then I do think, and I'll talk about some of those things
about Rebirth, that I do think that they did tie some things

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into the books, obviously. But again, they're always going
to struggle with capturing that OG group of dinosaur nerds.
Well, when you consider the first one and you consider what
the first one did, you have a very fair balance of

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intellectual stimulating conversations.
You have a presence of ideologies and morals.
You have a thought provoking question between a very
pessimistic, doubtful Ian Malcolm and then you have the
semi optimistic semi, maybe on the lighter side positivity and

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Ellie and Grant. And all the while you have
Attenborough played perfect JohnHammond bringing to life
something that he is just so excited about.
And wrestling with the concept of this is a mistake, and aside
from wrestling if this is a mistake or not, but really

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facing the turmoil and trauma ofwhat he is doing is wrong and
can't understand that because he's just so filled with wide
eyed joy and he just is crushed that people cannot see what he's
trying to do. And understanding that you do
not have control over this, thattwo species separated by

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65,000,000 years that are suddenly thrusted back together,
it's not going to work, right? So the first one, aside from
capturing the imagination of puppeteering, CGI, practical
effects, animatronics, people insuits, there's something very
profound and unique because thatmovie is 30 years on and it

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still holds up today. It still holds up today almost
to a an ailment and almost to its detriment because to your
point, it's captured so much attention.
It's lightning in a bottle. You can look to the dinosaurs
and say that's perfect. You can look to the acting and
say that's perfect. You can look to Jeff Goldblum's

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character, which arguably is oneof the greatest characters out
of the 90s, easily breathing life into those words, breathing
charisma and bringing real emotion and comedy.
Suspicious amount of comedy. It should not work in that film,
but somehow he made it work, right?

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So aside from the brilliant performances, whether it's Wayne
Knight, Sam Jackson, before PulpFiction too, so really
establishing that screen presence, then you move to The
Lost World, which tried to recapture, tried to further the
narrative loosely off of the Crichton novel in which, well,

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now we're going to another island.
Everyone loved, everyone loved Ian Malcolm.
He's going to be the forefront right now.
We're going to throw Lex and Timand we're going to throw, we're
going to throw some Easter eggs in there.
You get a young, fresh faced Vince Vaughn, you get Julianne
Moore, top tier like level and going to site B OK, well, now

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this is a new island. No fences, no parks, nothing
this time. And then it's the arrogance of
man, obviously engine. And then that kind of comes full
circle, right? We need to let this be, let this
leave us alone. And then we move along to
Jurassic Park 3, in which I think it was Joe Johnson, if I'm

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not mistaken, who directed it. And you got the brilliant
William H Macy, Tae Leone, Doctor Alan Grant.
Once again, Laura, oh, what's her name, Laura Dern.
She's back to straight monster film.
You see a dinosaur within less than 45 minutes, you see a

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dinosaur. And you don't just see one, you
see herds of them. You see the Spinosaurus.
You see, wow, they're really going for it.
Right, OK. So you have an appropriate
sequel and a straight monster movie for the third one.
Say what you will about the third one, the birdcage sequence
is sublime. That was awesome it.

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Was terrifying. Yeah, it really was.
I mean, don't. Know what it is?
Yeah, yeah. Like, you know there, you know,
everything from you know, you get that almost like that
claustrophobia, drowning feel, right because of the water as
he's kind of getting pecked by him, right?
The unpredictability that comes with flying creatures, if you

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will. I think, I think that that was
an extremely underrated scene ofthat, I think.
So fine. Yeah.
Like, I think so much of that third movie some people say, was
bad, right. But like, such an underrated
scene of it. Like, I hadn't even thought
about that. Like, that's such a good point.
Like that is a solid scary scene.

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Well, it's a horror film. The whole thing is a horror
film. It is a monster film.
And it's the suspension of disbelief that the Park trilogy
did beautifully, which was it was self aware.
It was self aware to Jeff Goldblum's brilliant line with
Vince Vaughn where he's talking about, oh, I've been to Vietnam,

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I've been to France, I've been to Iraq, I've been to South
America, Bolivia, I've filmed things all over the world.
And if it wasn't for Hammond, I wouldn't be going on this wild
goose chase. And then Ian Malcolm says one of
the greatest lines ever, which was, well, where you're going is
the only place that the geese chase you.
OK, So it knew what it was and the suspension of dis police

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for, for the third one, the young actor, I forget the
actor's name, but his name is Eric in the film, has survived 8
weeks living in a water truck. OK, so that part of that
disbelief is like, OK, how do wego from here?
Where do we go from here? Is that accurate?
Is that not OK? So but there's dinosaurs on the
screen, so we can kind of let itgo.

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That suspension of disbelief is taken away when you're faced
with the consistency that 1-2 and three brought.
You accept it. It kind of does the opposite of
what a good trilogy is supposed to do where you're interested.
It raises the stakes. It's an epic conclusion.

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OK, the Dollars trilogy is a perfect example.
Star Wars, the original trilogy is a perfect example.
Indiana Jones is a perfect example.
Now, while they they didn't finish at the height, each one
delivered something that you wanted.
William H Macy and Tayleone may have been annoying, but you

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still got it. Yeah, 'cause you need the
outside perspective. That's us going there.
And they have no clue. They took Alan Grant with them.
Oh, you've been on this island before?
And he's like, I have never beenon this island.
Right. I don't know what this island
is. Are you kidding?
So all three did the job, but they didn't narratively complete

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that full circle. And then we move along to
Jurassic World with Chris Pratt,Bryce Dallas Howard.
And then we're faced with what elements that they wanted to
bring in, they wanted to revisit.
So let's start a new trilogy. Let's see how we can get this

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reignited, you know, like that one flick of the match.
Let's see if we can get this franchise going again.
And while there were very interesting things, in theory,
the military is somewhat involved.
We're going to brush this under the rug from this previous park.
It's a new park now. It's safer, it's more

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entertaining. We're going to redo this.
We're going to do this the rightway.
And then you're faced with the arrogance of man, which once
again, they did beautifully in the first Jurassic Park.
But in this time, parents are tired of seeing the T Rex.
Parents and kids are tired of seeing the Raptors.
We've seen this before. We need to create a wow factor.

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We need to create that, that popfactor.
So then they create the Indominus Rex, a different
amalgamation of breeds, a creature raised in isolation.
And then you're faced with roughly revisiting the same
lines that Jurassic Park did. Would you agree?
Yeah, I do think they, I mean, Ithink that's kind of what

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brought that down a little bit after they did the first one,
right? Yeah, they, they reused some
things. They also did a great job of
tying in some old things. You throw in the classic Jeep
with the Jurassic Park logo and you're going to get all the OG
fans excited. But yeah, when when they brought
in that element of just humans making human mistakes again,

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they they tied it in well with the original.
But at the same time, I felt like they left a little bit of
meat on the bone for their own creativity.
And I think that's what underwhelms some people.
Almost like a retread. Yeah, it's a familiar territory.
It's a familiar scene, but nothing new.

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Exactly right. Like they pretty much just
changed dinosaurs, made some scarier ones, made some cute
ones. And that's where I like when I
when we kind of opened everything up, I said sometimes
these movies, they focus more onthings outside of the movie.
I think these last two rebirths,if you will, some, they had to

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have this like cute element, right?
We got to be able to sell the Jurassic Park toys.
Which, to be fair, is a huge part of the marketing.
It is. It is a huge part of it.
Did you have a toy dinosaur whenyou were growing up?
Oh, absolutely. I actually just gave my 4 year
old son the matchbox toys that were mine.

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Still in a box, not really worthanything which is why I felt
comfortable doing it. But I gave him the original,
like I think it would have been from the Lost World toys that
were like, you know, the Humvee and the helicopter and the Jeep.
And that was pretty cool 'cause he really likes those.
So it works. Yeah.
I mean, yeah, and that's for sure.

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But he hadn't even watched the movies yet, you know?
Yeah, it's a little too young. But I think they they tried so
hard there and the original Jurassic Park did it.
So it was so natural when they did it, right?
Like anyone that's around my agenever forgets the scene in the

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original movie where the kids kind of finally get back to Safe
Haven, right? They're grabbing food and stuff
and they're showing the scene ofthe toy store.
Those those toys sold like crazy.
You didn't have to do it with cute dinosaurs, right?
Right. And now I think they do that and
they just try a little bit too hard.

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And I don't think they need to do that, not with dinosaurs.
But they actually kind of mentioned something very similar
in this newest movie where they talk about how humans have kind
of lost their interest in dinosaurs.
And I and it made me think aboutthat.
And I was like, man, like, can Iimagine a world where we would

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lose interest in dinosaurs? Like because that's a scary
thought, because there's. No way it is, but it's a common
reflection. It's a common reflection piece.
You could segue for a hot 2nd and think, I mean, in our world,
we see, you know, dinosaurs. We see the bones.
We see what they theoretically may have looked like, how big
they may have been. You know, there's a lot more

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questions than there is, like the concrete evidence and proof
of, like, wonder what they really, really, really, truly
looked like. Right.
And what we have is the remains.And once again, this Harkins
back to a strong point of contention with the third one,
which was what Alan Grant is bitter.
He's upset. He's come face to face with when
he's speaking to the school. And he's like what John Hammond

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and Engine did was make genetically altered theme park
attractions, nothing more, nothing less.
What we call dinosaurs are left in fossilized forms in the
rocks. And it is in the rocks that is
where the truth of what dinosaurs really were, right.
And that essence kind of carriesthat right.

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And the contrast between Park trilogy and the world trilogy,
The world trilogy took a lot of creative liberties with this,
which completely from the outside looking in, completely
not being judgmental and face value, those films should work.

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All three of the world films should work right?
Yeah. But you revisit Dominion.
You revisit the Fallen Kingdom, which answers some of the bigger
questions. Is it ethical to let these
animals die? Is it right to poach these
animals? Isn't right to save these

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animals? And then the second one, try to
do what the third one did brilliantly, which was create a
monster scary revisiting dinosaurs.
I don't know how big that house is in the the fallen Kingdom,
right? But it's got to be a pretty,
pretty big house for a dinosaur to be running up the stairs.

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Yeah, not only running up the stairs, but an entire compound
in the basement. Yeah.
Yeah, I don't know if it's builton top of a hanger for F
eighteens or 740 sevens, but it seemed very far, very far gone.
Right. But theoretically that thought
should work. Yeah.
Well, let's save these animals, right?

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No, no, no, no, no. Don't just let them go.
Let them kick. No go.
That's they're done. Right.
Well then it introduces the sci-fi element of cloning James
Cromwell's character. And then the little girl is a
clone. And then there's gene splicing,
and then there's selling dinosaurs to the highest bidders

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on the black market for various weaponry and military reasons.
So the thought process should work, it should translate, but
the execution in full failed miserably in my opinion.
Personally, I I was, I was not enjoyed by it.
I didn't really care for it. It just felt like a big stretch.

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Did you agree with that? Yeah, I think the second one in
the world trilogy definitely didnot live up to like those
expectations. Now, don't get me wrong, like I
think they were on to something with the idea that humans
inherently will do those things,right?
They are going to continue to push the envelope in science,

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right? We do know that there are
certain types of sciences that accelerate faster than others,
right? If you look at, you know, like
atomic science, like we made in,throughout history, we would
make small discoveries and then that would accelerate things and
they would push those envelopes.You know what I'm saying?

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And I think that's what they kind of got with that.
And I do think they were on to the right idea.
I don't feel that I do agree with you as I don't feel like
they executed it in a way that was dinosaurs, right?
Like exactly. Yes, people will do what they
can to get their hands on thingsthey shouldn't.
If anything we learn from the Tiger King series on Netflix is

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that people will get their handson things that they have
absolutely no right having theirhands on.
And as long as they convince themselves it doesn't matter, no
ones going to tell them they're wrong.
Exactly. So like sure, I definitely have.
I totally believed the idea thatthey were going with right.
But like, and they did a good job of at least saying like,
hey, let's manipulate and take advantage of the dinosaur loving

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people to help us go get what itis that we need to get and then
say screw them and go sell them off for military reasons or the
oil barons or whatever, right? Like so like, I just think.
That sounds like a better movie.Right.
I don't think they needed all the house stuff, right, totally.

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I totally understand the cloningand the DNA changing and trying
definitely trying to create thisthis more modified like dinosaur
like. I get it.
And right, they did at least didthey did a good job of because
that was back to site a right island Navarre.
And so they knew that there weregoing to be some modifications

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of clones because that's what got them in trouble right on the
first one. So they did a good job there,
but like they took it just too far.
I don't think they needed to go there and they could have had a
great movie. And then I think as you and I
have talked many times is how inthe third movie they started it

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and they threw it at us with thedinosaurs working kind of in the
world. And yes totally killed it at the
start, like just could have beenthe 1st. 15 minutes were shown
in that trailer and. They could have just totally
nailed it with that movie and. That's the that's the thing.
That's it. Yeah, we're gonna talk about

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rebirth in a second, but it's the Fallen Kingdom has one scene
in it that felt the most Jurassic Park to me is when they
go to the mosasaurs, the skeleton, right?
Or they're avoiding it and they're trying to get a sample
from the Indominus, the Indominus Rex.

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So then you got the Mosasaurus and you got the helicopter in
the rain. It's lightning.
You can feel the rain. You can feel it in the theater
and you feel it in your chest. And then he's on the ladder out
of the helicopter and all of a sudden you see the T Rex like,
and then it goes dark and then the lightning shows up and goes

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and before you know it, he turnsaround and he's gone.
Right. And that's captivating,
interesting and terrifying, yes,because he is just.
And then the helicopter is going, the rain is going.
You think every like, oh, this is going to be so bad.
And then sure as shit it is. He grabs a hold of the, the, the

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line, the, the ladder out of thehelicopter, and he's thrashing
back and forth. And you're like, I'm in.
All right. I'm in on this.
Hell yeah. Let's do this.
Absolutely right. And then you get the beautiful,
the pessimistic, doubtful words of Dr. Ian Malcolm speaking to
Congress, speaking to the government about how wrong we

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are and the direction we're headed.
And then the movie goes downhillfrom there.
Yeah. We find ourselves at Dominion
next. Fascinating idea.
Let's bring the OG back. Let's bring Sam Neil, Jeff

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Goldblum, Laura Dern. Let's bring them back.
Let's pair them up with the world cast and the park cast
right there. You know, everybody's safe,
number one. Yeah.
So the stakes are taken away. We can't make dinosaurs the main
part of the film. So we're going to make Locus the

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main villains of the film. OK, maybe evil white capitalist.
He's the real bad guy. OK, we've seen this before.
Right, well, in a a beautiful tie in, right, you know, we got
Datsun over here, you know, likewhat a great tie in really like.

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But I I agree the the locus partwas just upsetting because we
all went because we wanted a dinosaur movie.
And it's not that there wasn't dinosaurs there.
Like they did a great job of introducing a more.
What have we learned about dinosaurs since the original?
Right? You've got more feathers, right,

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which we do know now know that there are more bird like right
then versus just strict reptilian.
So like they were very smart on that.
But like, and again, they did it.
They were playing real world, right?
Humans will capitalize on anything, right?
Someone, someone else's failure because becomes somebody else's

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prophet, right? And they did all those things.
But like, dude, they could have stayed on the mainland and made
an amazing movie with dinosaurs working within the current
world's, right. Like the starting scene with the
T Rex running through the movie theater.
I when I saw that in theater, I was like, this is going to be

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awesome. Yep.
And then they go to the farmlandand and again, it's not that I
don't understand. And I see where they were trying
what they were trying to get. They were definitely trying to
tie in some realism there. But you, you had the movie.
You didn't have to change anything.
You could have kept that cast, kept it mainland and never have

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had to venture off of it. And they could have had they
could have made a just an absolute brilliant movie.
They could have then tied in Hey, overtime we're noticing
that dinosaurs can't live in this current, you know,
ecological system, which when they're which would then would
have carried over very well intorebirth.

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But they didn't really do that other than from a it just not
going to work because they're giant dinosaurs and they're
laying on our construction sitesor in the way on the road in the
middle of the night. Like that's, you know, they
could have done so much more. And I just felt like getting off
mainland to the giant back to the island.

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Yeah, Like, well, 'cause there they were.
Where were they in that one? Some they.
Were on a new site. They were on the Swiss Alps, I
think is where it was. And that's what I'm talking
about. The I, the idea is there.
Obviously, you're harkening backto nice callbacks, familiar
characters, familiar plot points.

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But once again, you're faced with the execution.
And the execution is sound. The first 15 minutes of Dominion
is the film that that should have been.
Yeah. Whether it's there on the
African safari, whether they're in the ocean, whether they're in
the city, whether they're in thesuburbs that they're in is an

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interesting story. That's an interesting story.
There's elements in all of thosefilms that bring pieces from the
first trilogy. Roland is one of the greatest
characters in the Lost World. When he said you can keep my
feet, I don't want it. All I want is the right to hunt
one of the T rex's. That's all I want.

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OK. I don't know if this guy's a big
game hunter. I don't know if he sells
high-priced stuff from endangered species.
I don't know if he has an investor that cares about these
animals. He might just be a hunting
fanatic. But I believe all of those
things about that character. Right.
Very minute, small dialogue, butit's in the performance and it's

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in the writing. Fair enough.
Yeah. And when you see the world and
that is where it lacks, that is where it lacks the, the, the
literary, you know, the dialogue, the, the captivating
nature. Because when you don't see
dinosaurs on screen, you're like, Oh my goodness, like, what

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are we doing? What are we doing here?
It felt like it took a politicalturn.
Yes, you know, and and again, it's not saying that there there
was not elements of that. There were elements of that even
in the original. They were political elements,
right, Who was trying to sell off the dinosaur DNA right there
100% was that element to it, butit did not overtake what we had

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on the screen. You know what I mean?
Like like that's that is a part that you have to remember.
And I felt like the world triology, they just they almost
overstepped the political side. And then you were like you were
you weren't thinking about the dinosaurs as much.

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You were thinking about the politics of it.
And again, all of that is very real.
Of course, but. We didn't invest in a political
movie, we invested in a dinosaurmovie.
Correct. But when you're faced with the
Park trilogy, it's the dialogue and the questions of morals, and
it's the questions of what's right, what's wrong?

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I mean, you, you can take bits and pieces from all three of the
first Park films, and there is something there.
Yeah. One of the most heartbreaking
scenes in all three films I believe, aside from Hammond's
performance in the first one when he's talking to Ellie
about, you know, why he wanted to do this, wanted to show some
something real. A heartbreaking scene for me

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personally was in the third one when Billy stole the Raptor
eggs. OK, now here is a paleontologist
that Alan had faith in and brought him with.
And. What did he do?
Yeah, took advantage of it, right?
He tried to prophetize in one way, shape or form.

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And it is crushing. Yeah.
And he's like, you stole these. Yeah, you stole and he sold it
so well. You stole these and he was like,
I'm sorry, I I thought they'd beworth a fortune.
You had you, you, you have to understand I did this with the
best intentions. And then he goes, Billy,

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everything wrong is done with the best of intentions.
OK, heartbreaking. No dialogue after that.
And then sadly, we know Billy's fate.
And then he comes back in the very end.
But that small display of dialogue between 2 characters,
the idea of morals, what's right, what's wrong.

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I'm doing this because I know it's right and I, I know it's
right. You're not going to tell me
otherwise. And Alan Grant's exchange of
dialogue was twice as powerful than anything I saw in the World
trilogy. Because you're familiar with it.
You get it? Yeah.
You see it on display. I mean it.

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It just, it works brilliantly because here's a paleontologist
that's brought along. And now he What did he do?
Right, and not only that broughtalong, but he he studied under
the person that had real world experience at the park, right
and understood this at 1.0. This is an amazing idea.

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Immediately back down to this isnot a good idea.
This is you don't get my vote ofconfidence, right?
And so like, I do think that's athat's a really good point.
I mean, I think there were some things in the world that were
good, right? Like, you know, Chris Pratt's
character did a good job of saying you cannot control these
things, right? He took this very much like we

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work together in these things and also still faced a lot of
failures, right? Of course.
But then there was that, all thebad guys, if you will, we're
always trying to control and manipulate and take, take over,
which is the one thing that you will see in most movies that

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have monsters in them. There's almost always a human
control element, right that tries to overstep its boundary
of Oh no, I either own you or I control you and monster or
creation or creation exactly. Yeah, and it's not to say that

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the World Trilogy wasn't entertaining, because there were
very, very entertaining parts. You know, each one of those
films has a moment in the sun that is truly, truly
entertaining. And aside from it being truly
entertaining, the execution, thenarrative just fell a little
short for me personally. And I don't hate watch things.
You know that about me. I'll give anything the benefit

(32:48):
of the doubt and then critique it later, But as we look to the
World Trilogy and the Park Trilogy, Park Trilogy takes it
for myself, obviously, for you and a few other people out there
above the age of 30, maybe even above the age of 40, myself
included, yourself included. We know where the real like

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heart and soul of the films wereright now, as we've spoken about
them. Let's move right along to
Rebirth. So fast tracked, very fast
tracked. We were talking off air of where
do you find all this informationat, man?

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Where do you find this information?
Where do you get this from? And I'm like, well, my friend,
you have to look to the source. I always say that look to the
source. Look to the source.
And for everybody out there listening, you will know the
three sources that I use, which is The Hollywood Reporter,
Variety and Deadline. Three of the most notable
sources out there, credible journalists, credible pundits,

(33:54):
credible panelists, credible bloggers.
These are people that have 9 times a day and they have
degrees in journalism. It's really resourceful.
They thoroughly vet their sources.
So before you came here today, Iwas doing the same thing that I
always do, going down a rabbit hole like a lunatic, you know,
reading, prepping and come across some of the stuff with

(34:15):
Rebirth, why it worked, why it didn't, why is it like this, why
is it like that? And before we jump into some of
the stuff that I've read, what were your initial thoughts on
Rebirth 'cause you just saw thisfilm last night with the missus.
You have the floor, Set it up. So first thing I did is, you

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know, I will try to unattach myself from any of the previous
Movies, OK? Because where they where this
movie kind of takes place is technically what they call is
like site C, right? And so like from that moment,
once I realized that they they were trying to do this very
much, this is not site A or siteB.

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This is site CI tried to make sure I unattached myself from
some of that because that's justhow I am with movies.
I try really hard to not get. I don't want the 1993 fan
version of myself watching that movie because I knew it was
going to be something different,but at the same time, I really

(35:20):
had high hopes that we would getanother dinosaur movie again.
I, I like how they started it with, you know, they're in this
genetic testing and you know, they're in this big lab, you
know, shout out to Snickers for making sure they paid God knows
how much money to get a Snickerswrapper to ruin, you know, a

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facility where the guy says later in the movie The average
dinosaur like manipulated DNA dinosaur was like 72, like
$1,000,000. So I'm sure a Snickers wrapper
would totally ruin all the doorsin the entire building.
I like where they started it you.

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I love the, IT reminded me a little bit of Jaws where it's
like you had the red smoke alarms.
You knew there was a dinosaur coming, right?
And, and they're like, OK, we'regoing to open this door and the
guy's like, come on, do it, do it.
And she can tell that it's there.
And it just the pure fear of that person's face.

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Like I like how they started it.I'll kind of go back into the
care that that dinosaur, the D Rex later.
So I really thought they startedit good with they kind of said,
hey, here is I think it was 17 years prior, which would have
because that movie I think is set in 2027.

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And so 17 years prior would haveput them at what, 2010, which is
when the park was still when therevamped park would have been
still very much in its testing phase.
So the timeline added up totally.
I had to kind of like write it out because I was like, what's
my timeline here? And so I was able to kind of

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like put it together. Which calls back to the
Indominus Rex. Genetically altered animals,
right? Yes.
So apparently though I did read because I was doing some
research, apparently the D Rex was supposed to be the Indominus
Rex and it ended up they switched it out, which was a
kind of a cool cool factor to it.

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But anyway, that all happens andthen it kind of shoots right
over to present day dinosaurs aren't they are not thriving.
They're dying in the ecosystem anywhere.
I can't remember the exact, but it was anything really far north
or South of the equator, you know, And then they kind of like

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do the slow introduction of, youknow, Zora's character and, you
know, and the doctor always has to be the corrupt Dr. and they
get the paleontologist that always has to be kind of the,
the nerdy kind of style. I, I enjoyed it.
I they had moments in there where I was like, yes, they got

(38:16):
the dinosaur element. We talked about this away from
the studio, away from the mics when you had asked me and I said
that there's one scene in the film that is truly, truly
Jurassic Park, and it has the Jurassic Park vibe.
There's one scene in it. And as I mentioned the sources

(38:37):
with a Variety deadline in The Hollywood Reporter, I remember
reading a couple of years ago, they are so itching to make this
film. They're itching to make this
film. And I'm like, how long could you
have been sitting on this? How long would like David Kepp,
how long could he have been sitting on this?

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And Stevens like, we should do another one.
And Universal's like, yes, let'sdo it, let's do it.
Let's do it right now. And you're like, well, that
seems kind of fast. That seems kind of fast.
And I know it's credible when the big three all articles are
saying the same thing, like they're trying to fast track

(39:19):
this. They're moving right along.
They're starting to film next year.
And then you look to some of theother columns, you know, you
look to some of the other maybe blogs, you maybe go a little bit
on Reddit. You maybe go on to some scoopers
that are like, they're trying tofast track this movie.
They're trying to fast track it.And here I am like, why, why?

(39:42):
Why are you trying to fast trackthis?
And then David Leach gets attached.
Deadpool 2, Atomic Blonde, Bullet Train.
Like, wow, that would be a hell of a film.
It was rumblings of Zack Snyder.It was rumblings of all these
minor big names. They're minor, but not A list

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directors. And then Gareth Edwards scoop
them right up. And that thought is why I was
excited. Because Gareth Edwards is the
master of scale and size. He did 2014's Godzilla, kind of
did Rogue One. He did the Creator, all on the

(40:24):
guides of scale and size, knows how to properly use CGI.
So I was sold. Perfect.
I'm in. I don't care who's in this film,
I will watch it because of him. Yeah, OK.
Yeah, that 2014 Godzilla's was. Way better than it had any
business being way better. Very good.
And the scale on that is like you're, you find yourself

(40:47):
cranking your neck to look up because of the way it's scaled.
So I always tell everybody that's a that's a helpful little
info there from your boy. OC here.
Look to the source. You read something online, look
to the source to make sure it's true.
It's credible moving forward. Once they had fast tracked this,
I was like, what are they going to do?

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OK, you guys are obviously super, super into this.
The studio's backing you, this is Gareth Edwards, David Kepp.
Like, what could you guys possibly have up your sleeves
'cause even, you know, you have a script floating around out
there somewhere and there's something you guys just want it.
Let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go.
And then to your point, you get the opening scene, the real good

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homage and love letters to the great Steven Spielberg, the
great love letters to to Jaws. There's a little bit of few nods
to James Cameron's Alien in there.
You get a few, you know, nods tothe brilliant Stan Winston that
brought the dinosaurs to life inthe first one.

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How do you feel it resonated foryou personally moving through
this film, watching the story, watching the characters?
Because to your point, he got the point of view character.
He got the doctor, he got the paleontologist.
And then, of course, it wouldn'tbe a Jurassic Park film if it
wasn't a family, right? Yeah, that's true.

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So please, how did it wash over you?
I thought that the character development in the character
relationships was OK. I thought the bits and pieces of
the dinosaurs where they, where they put it in there, they had
some good parts in there. And then they had some, eh, like
I could have done without that, right?

(42:41):
I thought what they did with like Megalodon and the
Spinosaurus was really, really good because they they've
studied Spinosaurus more recently.
It's kind of cool fact. I was I was just like, I was
kind of down the rabbit hole last night.
The original Spinosaurus bones were found in like 1912 in Egypt

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and then they were unfortunatelydestroyed during World War 2.
But like so cool but. Oh, you can go down a rabbit
hole, that's for sure. Everyone like be careful what
you read because you you will just start going so so far down.
Before you know it, you're like,Oh my God, like what time is it?
But you know, just studying how amphibious they were and truly

(43:27):
them being a very unique dinosaur just based on their
structure, how they they were not built for running, which is
something in the third movie they had them doing, which
wasn't. I don't think that was the same
knowledge at that time, which isalso kind of cool, right, when
you kind of see them evolving there.

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But I thought what they did withthose boat scenes was really,
really good. Yes, very big Jaws vibes.
Yeah, very big Jaws vibes, kind of those same feelings of like
what's going to happen next and then oh, it's so close.
You never see it. Yeah, It's just the hint, right?
Just like with Jaws, it's the hint of.

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It's the, it's the fin. Yep, the fin, the classic
character that you already don'tlike, gets caught hands on
either wall, fence or door. You know, that last piece of eye
contact before they're pulled away, and you can't really go
wrong with that. I just, I don't know, I just
felt like they lacked in that, that development of character.

(44:29):
You already kind of knew who thebad guy was too early, right?
I because it almost felt too obvious.
I actually thought early on thatmaybe it was going to be, you
know, the nerdy paleontologist that was going to throw you a
curveball. And I don't, and I don't know
why it just because it felt too clear who we already knew.

(44:53):
It just was too. It was just too obvious, you
know what I'm saying? Oh, correct.
That's that's partly why I brought up.
Look to the source. Yeah.
And all three sources for like 2years were just every article
that I read. We're trying to fast track this.
We're trying to fast track this.We're trying to get this made.
We're trying to get this made and to the detriment of the
film, in my humble opinion, it felt very rushed.

(45:17):
The film felt incredibly rushed and it was a reflection on
everything that I read before and everything that I read
leading up to it. You can kind of read the tea
leaves based upon a film that's that's coming out.
You know a film is going to be kind of your gut feeling.

(45:37):
Right, right. 'Cause everyone had that gut
feeling you did. I did.
Everybody had it. When they're like, you know,
they're making another Jurassic World.
It's like, didn't we just get one?
Didn't we just get one like lessthan 10 years ago?
How how long ago was that? And then you do the math and
you're like, OK, well, what doesthis film have working for it?
It has Jonathan Bailey as the paleontologist.

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It has Scarlett Johansson. It has the great Mahershala Ali.
Of course, he's not doing Blade for Marvel, so he's got time,
which we'll never get that film sidebar.
So the carryover definitely shows where the film fell off.
And I was really anxious to talkto you about this, primarily

(46:23):
because I know your love for thefranchise and love for the
films, but I found myself very irritated with the film.
Very, very irritated because it felt like they strong armed and
clipped all of the story beats and possible avenues that they
could go. Because to your belief system
and my belief system, why don't dinosaurs just come to our
world? Why don't they just come into

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our world? That is the movie we want to
see. That is the story that needs to
be told. Well, guess what?
They can't. So they can't survive in our
world. Guess what?
They're all dying. OK, well now we're not going to
get that movie. Right.
Let's just put them on site. See that we haven't talked about
ever. That's my point.
Every, every moment of that film, while there are enjoyable

(47:11):
moments in it, we'll talk about the rap scene here in a second,
which is Chef's Kiss Perfect. That is the movie that I wanted
to see. That is the movie I should have
seen, but it felt a little rushed.
It felt a little inconsistent, and it felt narratively, like I
said, that they had clipped all the interesting avenues that the

(47:32):
second trilogy tried to do but couldn't do.
And before you know it, now we're like, OK, now we're going
back. OK, We're going to go back to
their world. But these aren't dinosaurs.
These are monsters, right? Yeah.
And those monsters are? Freaky.
Looking OK. I will give Gareth and the
special effects team tirelessly working.

(47:55):
I will give them all the credit in the world.
They made those things look gross.
They made them look scary. And once again, we get a lot of
love letters to James Cameron. We get a lot of love letters to
Steven Spielberg. You cannot tell me the
convenience store scene was not a sweet call back to the cafe
kitchen scene with Lex and Tim, which, OK, maybe.

(48:19):
Yeah, they they did. They had parts in there.
For sure. Like I think now I again, I went
kind of down my own rabbit hole and though this is the way I
kind of thought about sightsee. OK, let's just take a trip down
memory lane. Let's think back to World War
Two, OK? Did America just openly tell
everybody that they were workingon the Manhattan Project in New

(48:42):
Mexico? Not really, right?
They had to choose an extremely remote location.
They had to keep everything completely top secret.
So you have to think of site C right as the Manhattan Project,
right? Correct.
The thing that you don't want anybody knowing about because it
is completely crossing the moralline, right?

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Which is what those dinosaurs were, right?
They at the start, they showing the 2 headed, you know,
dinosaurs. I'm going to say monsters
because that's really what they were, right?
Because they were created, they weren't dinosaurs.
So it makes sense why there is asightsee.
They could have done a better job of giving you a better

(49:25):
bridge between the two and why it is the way it is.
But they did and they and like you said, the raft scene, like
we're going to get to it. Like I want to save that towards
the end because that is shift. Kiss.
That is so freaking good, that is.
That's perfect. Yeah, that is a 10 out of. 10

(49:47):
scene that I've been waiting about 30 years to see.
And it was, and it felt. It felt.
Real, right? Yes, it was in the first book.
Yeah, yeah, that's right. You told me about that.
And then I went down that rabbithole and found out how correct
you were. But yeah, I just feel like they
just had too many things where they rushed it too quickly.

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Like man, we're we're talking about walking through an island
that we have no idea how big it is, right?
Obviously big enough cause the scene with all the and I'm gonna
totally botch it. But the the Titan, the
Titanosaurus, correct. Titanosaurus.
Yes, they they. That that.

(50:29):
Scene was That was a very good scene, almost too much CGI with
it little bit but like in terms of the.
Scene. You really I think that was one
of their best emotion based scenes where you felt it right
and we've all probably experienced it at some point in
our lives where we're out like driving and we see things in

(50:50):
nature and you're like, oh, look, it's an elk.
And then like, oh wow, there's fifty of them.
Like that's pretty freaking cool.
Like so I I felt that piece. But they show that in this
landscape at the very end of that scene.
This is no small island. So you're going to tell me that
people who had never been there before and all of their plans

(51:11):
went to total shit from the get go, that they're just following
the the easiest hiking trail possible to get to these
facilities? Like they could have?
They could have moved it slower and it probably would have had a
better and greater effect. I understand that movies are
limited to time, but we break rules all the time.

(51:35):
Why can't we? Why couldn't they have tried to
break a rule? And, you know, everybody
remember when Titanic came out and there are two movies?
Are you kidding me? Like, they could have done that
with this. They could have given us more
dinosaur, real dinosaur elementsto it.
And instead they rushed it. They made the the monsters, if
you will, come in and take that element away.

(51:57):
They're faster, stronger, smarter.
And that part was like, that's what I'm saying.
And that's partly why I. Brought up.
Look to the source. Look to the source if you're
interested in stuff like this and are just so fascinated and
curious with cinema and movies. And then all the articles are
saying the same thing, like it'sjust they want a fast track,
fast track, fast track. And then this was one of the

(52:18):
first films that I literally found myself going, Oh my God,
all these sources were 100% correct.
Like they really wanted to get this thing made and almost to
its detriment because the creator, Rogue One and Godzilla
2014, they look amazing. Like the CGI is there, but you

(52:41):
don't care because your brain knows it's not real, right?
But you're so immersed in the, in the world or the script or
the the essence of what the filmis trying to convey, you don't
care. You're just like, wow, this is
crazy, right? And in this film, it just felt
very rushed. Yeah.

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To its detriment, they did a great job paying homage to the.
Landscape, of course, those scenes and I thought, you know,
I always think back to the original film when they're
flying the helicopter and and you're just like, I don't know
where that is but I gotta be there, you know.
Oh, absolutely. And I think they did a very
good. Job with that part.
But I do agree the IT just felt like, again, you knew it wasn't

(53:27):
real, but you still just kind ofhad this like, oh, that's like
just too much CGI, right? And we'll, we'll never.
Truly know what? A Titanosaurus will look like,
and I'm not sitting here saying that they didn't have those
spines features like they may very well have.
I mean, I don't think you know, or if it was a modified version

(53:50):
of it, but they didn't really say that in that movie.
Like they made it sound like that was what it should be, but
it just, it did feel very CGI like even though I'll also give
some credit to the movie where when they kind of had the
upfront scene where he was standing next to its leg and the
fine details. If you noticed the hairs on the

(54:12):
legs and when he touched it moved like that stuff is so cool
because that's just showing. That's showing them taking like
this next step. Yeah, the attention to detail
is. Is remarkable and I and I don't
want to sound like I was shitting on the movie The entire
time and I hate this I hate thisI hate this it just didn't
really work for me it just didn't really work for me but

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it's not without its entertainment factors.
I've talked about many, many times that there are love
letters. There are pieces of this film
that are truly, I'm going to shoot this scene in response in
hopes that it resonates with people.
Oh, remember that scene from dotdot dot or remember this scene

(54:56):
from dot dot, dot? There's a lot of scenes in it,
whether they're through the sewer systems.
That was a real sweet call back to Alien.
There were moments that were a real sweet call back to the
first Jurassic Park. There were moments like we
talked about with Jaws, I mean truly like heart pumping
entertainment, edge of your seat, I'm in this.

(55:17):
All right, all right, right. And the silence.
I mean, there's a character, I know we're going along on this,
but there's a character, the boyfriend of this family that's
also there, the boyfriend of thedaughter.
He goes to take a piss, as we all probably would.
He goes off and just getting ready to do his thing, making

(55:40):
sure no one's around. And then you see a feathered
velociraptor. You're like, oh, oh man, this is
going to oh, this is going to bebad.
And then before you know it, oneof the monster engineered ones
just goes right, right. Takes the velociraptor out.
You're like. What the?
Fuck was that? Are you kidding me?

(56:02):
I, you know, that scene was was,was good.
Right. It was had all the makings of
like, all the typical like. No, you're on an island full of
dinosaurs and monsters. I ain't peeing more than 5 yards
away from anybody. You're closing your eyes.
Look that way. Yeah, I'm not.
I'm not moving. Everybody's asleep.
I don't care. Yeah, right.
And. I I did actually think that was

(56:24):
really good, that did you jump? Oh, Hex.
Yeah. Absolutely I did.
That way I was like, whoa, whoa,what was not ready for that?
You know that one. That was very.
Very well done. I thought that was a great scene
and the flares and we have. You got to give never go wrong
with the flares. You got to give it up to
Mahershala. I thought he was going to bite
it. I truly thought he was going to

(56:44):
bite it. I'm like the one like one note
character in this that I really like.
He's going to go out and I figured, OK, it's got to be an
Ian Malcolm thing, right? Obviously the get rid of the
flare, get rid of the flare and very much the D Rex.
It looks like if a xenomorph hada baby with the rancor.

(57:06):
So that's exactly what I was thinking.
I was like I got. Total rancor vibes on that like
so hardcore because of the face right but when I and yeah, even
in the in like the hands, but like what I then thought to
myself was like maybe that was a.
Little bit of homage to that. Type of movie but at the same

(57:28):
time Rancor was this like creature monster that was
suppressed and owned by man right that then didn't really
care really for anybody and agedanyone that fell in right and so
like it had that that's a littleletter oh OK like yeah that's

(57:49):
another love letter to like a George Lucas and.
What he did even some even some Godzilla.
Vibes when you could see the thekind of the fog and the smoke
and the shape of the D Rex, right?
You saw the hand, or maybe you saw the face.
And it just peeks through and then disappears.
Yeah, but I. Just, I don't know, I So what I

(58:09):
was hoping for the flare scene. What do you think?
I was hoping at the very end when he's sitting there.
He's in the. Water, right and he's waving it
down just to get it away from the boat.
My mind went one place I'm going.
To go T Rex 100%. I was that disappointed me so

(58:31):
much. I was waiting for our king right
to come just because, you know, because from the rafting scene,
we didn't see it again. So I was like, oh, you know, it
could be hunting like it kind oflike and you know when you had
the flare vibes and I was like, oh, for sure.
This thing is is is just going to give it it.
They're going to there's going to be a fight, right.

(58:52):
We're going to have been a sweetcall back to the Raptor scene.
Exactly like we were going to get the boss vibes and.
Then it just didn't happen. I was like, oh, you can't be
serious. Like entertaining, entertaining.
Nonetheless entertaining, but once again, you subvert a little
bit too much and maybe it's it just wasn't in the cards, but

(59:13):
it's not without. It's pure, pure entertainment
fun. Now, before we get out of here,
I want to talk about the raft scene.
But I will say one of the coolest scenes with the D Rex
that I loved, loved, loved, loved is when they're waiting to
get to this place on the island.Obviously, if you've listened
this far in the podcast, you don't care about spoilers and

(59:34):
clearly you've listened this far.
Sorry for spoiling it. Should have prefaced that.
Full spoilers ahead. But anyway, they're waiting for
the helicopter because it's circling the island.
They'll circle for two minutes and then they will leave.
This is a backup contingency. Break glass for emergency plan
by Scarlett Johansson's character.
You see the helicopter, it's circling, it's circling.

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The family's there, the kids arethere, the docks there, the
paleontologist is there. Everyone is there.
All the characters that we love and hate are right there waiting
for the helicopter. And you see the light coming
through the fog. You see the light coming through
the steam. You're like, all right, all
right, here we go. Here we go.
And then all of a sudden the light goes Askew and then the D

(01:00:18):
Rex has the fucking helicopter in his mouth and you're just
like, Oh my God, you knew it was.
Like something was going to happen, but that was not the
part that I was expecting. I was expecting similar to, you
know, one of the other movies where it was like hovering.
They're like, oh, we got away and then the Megalodon comes up

(01:00:38):
and gets it. So I was expecting more of that,
like the scary oh crap. But for it to just kind of like
come forward is like, hey, look what I got, you know, like that
was that was really good. Oh, that was great use of the D
Rex was that part. Right there for sure it.
Wasn't it was. Yeah.
That was scary too. I was.
Like, Oh my God. And you know, and they did a
good job with the scene focusing.

(01:00:59):
On the pilot and like, yeah, that was, that was good.
That was next to what? We're finally going to talk
about. What everyone wants to hear us
talk about was what is quite possibly, 30 years on, finally,
finally seen a true Jurassic Park scene with incompetent,

(01:01:20):
nervous, terrified human characters that think they know
better. And the scene is centered on the
family. Yep, it was good.
It was. I mean, it was.
Perfect. And it was.
And it's funny because I know we're thinking.
About just how they wanted to dothis for so long and they

(01:01:43):
finally did it. But what made it so much better
to me was the the real. Wild.
Element of T Rex was sleeping. It rolls over.
Don't wake it up. The raft inflates.
Yeah, the raft inflates. It moves it's.
Gone. Yeah, and like.

(01:02:04):
Them putting. That part to it right before
they really get into that scene just really just set it up so
perfectly. It almost felt like a scene in
another movie. Yeah, it felt like.
Oh, OK, So don't tell me you guys don't know how to make a
Jurassic Parks movie because this is Jurassic Park.

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They get in the raft and he's like a cat.
I got a cat. He's like a cat.
He's rolling over, He's yawning.And then he's going to get
something to drink. And then he looks over and
they're like paddle. Yeah, paddle, paddle, paddle.
We got to get out of here. And the scene when.
He's. Under the water.
The T Rex is just trudging through the water and then he's

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underneath and they're just looking back and it's the bird's
eye view and you can feel the panic in your stomach.
You're like, this is going to goso bad.
Yep, Yep. And then what does he do?
He gets in. Front of him pops up, flips to
a. Sucker and the little girl
underneath. Sweet call back to Lex and T
Yeah, I was going to say they did that was.
Another really great call back. I mean, and it, everyone that's

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seen the original and loves the original, they all felt that
moment, right? They all felt the glass when
they saw the imprint of the teeth going through the boat.
They all, we all were, we were all those kids again, pushing up
on the glass. I mean, we, every single one of
us were doing it. It was great.
And then he gets ahead of the raft.
And then he sticks his head under the water to look and the

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dad is swimming and he's kicking.
And then the the head comes downand yeah, and you're just.
Like what is happening? Here.
This is not OK. Yeah, that was.
Such a it was such. A well done scene like.
I absolutely enjoyed that scene.I do think that was the that

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was. The best dinosaur.
Element they gave us. And not and not saying that.
There was another good one, but that was definitely just
fantastic. So it was, yeah.
It was so enjoyable, like, and the, if you've really paid
attention, you know, after it didn't get them right and it

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kind of had this like, disappointed, I'm upset, Walk
away, right. You know, Like, that was great
too. Like, I can't believe I woke up,
put all that effort to get nothing.
It was great, Yeah. It was very good.
It was that. And that, I think is what allows
that film that that's what cements it to be entertaining.

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It doesn't really cement it on the lines of where world tried
to go and where the parks were established as the trilogy's
would would consider. But like I said that that raft
scene, there's not a lot that can be critiqued about it
because it almost is too perfect.
Yeah, they. I mean I.
I absolutely agree that that scene was just so incredibly

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good. It truly was, yeah.
So my friend, Mr. Coach, the coach, Dr. Coach, if we can say,
where do you think they go with this before we get out of here,
where do you want them to go with this?
Do you want to see another one of the rebirth films?
Do you think it's kind of OK? We're we're we've kind of milked

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this for all it's worth. Now where do you want to go with
this? I want.
Jurassic Park birth, I want a prequel.
I want to go way back to the original book.
I know Spielberg tabled a lot ofthe original ideas due to he

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feel he felt that it was going to be too slow.
You can absolutely make something from the original
scenes to the original book starts with like what these this
company claims was a construction accident.
Even though the doctors like this is clearly not a
construction accident. This person looks like they've
been ripped apart by something. I think they could go back to

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that if if you haven't read the book, you have to read the book
or summarize the book. I mean, what they do to start it
and build it up just has so muchpower.
And you can get into the chaos theory side of it, the DNA side
of it, the political side of what should we use this for?
What shouldn't we? But also the dinosaur side of

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wait, what hurt these people? What doing these things as
they're kind of building it up. I think there's something that
could absolutely be there. I don't know if people might be
a bit too Jurassic parked out because of all these different
rendensions of it. But I do think if they went
back, but they know nothing crazy.
Let's talk about the failure of cloning these dinosaurs, right?

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The struggles they faced. And then and then let's bring
these dinosaurs alive to the oldschool just dinosaur form and
let's let chaos happen from there.
And I think that would be super fun, but I don't know.
We'll see. That would be, I think that'd be
awesome, though. Well, you heard it here first.

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The core of entertainment on Apple and Spotify every Monday
morning and every Wednesday morning.
So Spielberg, Joe Johnson, DavidKepp, Gareth Edwards, if you
have a thought or a theory for where that movie should go, You
heard it here first from the coach.
We, we got to got to work some sort of deal out that that what
he just said there is, is is is Canon to your universe that

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you're trying desperately to bring back.
So get in touch with me. My details are down below.
I'll reach out to the coach. And yeah, we're going to want
the residuals for that one. Yeah, we'll, we'll be, we'll be
nice. I don't think we need much.
From it, give us a good dinosaurmovie and I think we'll be
pretty happy. Yeah, until it makes a million.
Then we can we can talk. Can you imagine that?

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I mean, let's be fair, everyone loves dinosaurs.
They're not going anywhere. They're clearly going to make
another one. This movie did a great job at
the box office. Love it or hate it, money talks
and bullshit walks. Let's be fair, if we're going to
probably get another one, but I am 110% in agreeance with you,
you got to take it back. You got to do something familiar

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and different, whether that's a long term show, whether that's a
film, something familiar, something akin to what we all
fell in love with. Yeah, that'd be a killer series.
That would be slow burn releasedevery.
Friday, yeah, that would be The Killers an 8.
An 8 part series? Yeah, I think.

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That would be. Ohh don't be putting them
feelers. Out there.
That's good. That's awesome.
Coach I. Genuinely appreciate you being
here. This has probably been one of my
I can say this on my because I'mcomfortable.
This has been one of my favoriteepisodes that I've done.
I really think we scratched something here.
I do. I'm do more than just sports.
I don't do a whole lot of entertainment, but when I do, I

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get into it. Well, you heard it here first,
everybody. From the coach to all of you
lovely audience and the listeners out there, I hope this
helped your Wednesday kind of get the week off in the middle
hump. Get it off to the right start
maybe this week and revisit Jurassic Park, Jurassic World,
maybe go see Rebirth. Jump down in the comments below
and let me know your thoughts and the coach.

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Thanks for being here, bro. Thanks for having me.
I love it. We're going to be back.
We're going to. Have you back this absolutely
scratch something? Here we're going to talk.
We're going to. Talk after this.
All right, thank you so much forbeing here, my friend.
All right, have a good one for everybody else out.
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