August 27, 2025 • 56 mins
OC and Zach a new voice here at TCOE! talk all things adult animation!! Family Guy, American Dad, Simpsons and of course South Park!! Dads, stories, plots, and motivations!! Thanks for listening!!
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Welcome back everybody to another episode of the core of
entertainment and audio only podcast available on Apple and
available on Spotify every Monday morning and every
Wednesday morning. And today is Wednesday.
It's the middle of the week, It's hump day.
The weekend is right around the corner.
Thank you so much for making this platform a part of your
day. Thank you so much for making me
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a part of your day. And I'll tell you what
television is at an all time high, the golden age of
television. Television used to be something
that most actors feared, most creative artists feared going to
TV because it was essentially where stars went that were
dusted and done and gone. However, today's day and age,
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whether that's Netflix, whether that's Hulu, whether that is
HBO, that is where most of the entertainment today and today's
2025 thrives in. And it's not without a short
means or long term storytelling,amazing characters, very, very
talented people. And especially with today's
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episode, it is all about animation.
And not just any particular animation, but adult animation.
And when I say adult animation, we obviously know The Simpsons
reign supreme. It follows very closely with
South Park, Family Guy, various shows under the sun that are for
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a trusted audience. It's a trusted audience that
understands that this is not forchildren, but the creativity is
still whether that's the holdingup a mirror to society, whether
that's the cynical views, whether that is the perspective
of various things in our world. But in animated form, most TV
networks, we're a little apprehensive at first, whether
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that's a show about yellow people or about a bunch of foul
mouthed kids from South Park. We're going to dive into all
this today and diving into all this today.
We're going to talk with somebody very, very close,
friend of the show, long term listener, first time in the
studio, live in person. We're going to do some rankings.
We're going to talk about best shows.
We're going to talk about best families, we're going to talk
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about best dads, all under the umbrella of animation.
Now, bear with me. This episode could get a little
controversial because we are talking about certain characters
that are deemed controversial. We'll find out.
You be the judge. Jump down in the comments
section below. Leave me your thoughts there.
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But before you do that, I'd liketo welcome in Zach.
What's going on, buddy? Good.
Not much. I'm excited to be here and here
and say some crazy things and maybe see what we can get out of
these people. But I'm excited to be here and
I've, I've been waiting for what, quite a while, maybe
almost a month around. Right, it's busy.
It's busy, but you have a lot ofpeople on and, you know, getting
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to be one of those people is kind of an honor.
You know, I've never been on something like this and it's
exciting to see what you could have here for us so.
Absolutely, man. Yeah.
It's a conversation piece. We were talking before we
started recording, and one of the biggest pieces is it's
played quite a bit. So people will hear your voice,
right, And you're gonna be back.Obviously, you'll be back.
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Mm. Hmm.
But when people hear your voice,it's kind of they create what
you look like, you know, which is the beauty of audio.
Yeah, they get to look at it, you know, and be like, visualize
it exactly. Brain work a little bit, you
know? I think it's amazing and I want
to thank you so much for being here.
Thank you for wanting to be a part of this.
Before we get on to the rankingsthat you have, where did you
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find yourself with the adult animation like Simpsons Family
Guy? Where did you find yourself with
that? Like, what was the bridge that
allowed you to kind of like, letthat world and kind of wash over
you? For me, it was YouTube.
You know, there's compilations of like best Family Guy moments
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or it's like, you know, like 10 minute videos of like the
craziest shit that's ever happened on like South Park or
you know, The Simpsons or it's like short Instagram videos or
like stuff like that. What really like the very first
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stuff like that made me get in like episodes was Family Guy.
I used to watch Family Guy all the time and so that was like
episodes where Stewie is like duplicating himself and it's
like like he's reversed 9/11 andstuff like that.
Those episodes were like the OG ones and then passed after that.
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I kind of didn't really watch TVthat much.
Those animated and then South Park, you know, with Cos Bonita
and hearing that on the news. And I was like, I got to watch
South Park. And so within the last year or
two, I've been able to watch a pretty significant big chunk of
South Park. And that's when I really started
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like paying attention to like certain things and like this
adult era of like animation. And so that's that's what really
got me into it, which was just YouTube, you know, just
recommendations like top 10 S Park home, like Simpsons
Cleveland show, stuff like that.That really got me into it.
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Did you ever think for one second that barring, like the
comedy aspect of it, because it can be considered offensive, it
can be considered outrageous? Did it ever hit you in that way
that the shock factor is kind ofwhat allows these shows to be
successful? Like you're not going to believe
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what they did on the show. You know, yes, I totally, I
would. I would totally agree with that.
Yeah, because I don't think without the factor of having
that like like politically incorrect language.
Correct. Would if they didn't have that,
I don't think these shows would be that interesting because they
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wouldn't have anything to make fun of or anything to, you know,
throw jokes at a reference, a reference.
If you didn't have something to just make a joke at, then it
would just be kind of just like boring like what would they?
It'd just be like a animated sitcom, all right.
And what makes it even better issome people don't understand
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that and they're like, this is aterrible show because, you know,
so and so-called Jennifer Lopez a slut or something like that,
when in reality they're just joking, right?
Right. And that's what makes it even
better is the reaction that the public gets from these and they
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try to ruin the show through that because they don't
understand it's really all just jokes, right?
That's the whole point of these shows is to kind of like have
some controversial like ideas about them.
And one of those things was likethe Scientology episode in South
Park, right, where they had all kinds of these celebrities.
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Like I have things like Tom Cruise, like he's inside the
closet, guys. People do not like that.
And I think without with withoutthat, it would just kind of be,
at least in my opinion, boring and I probably wouldn't have
much interest. What gives the interest is that
that these jokes like they're inlike politically incorrect and
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they, you know, they have, they have what's the word relevance,
relevance to the world because it's updated and it's, it's,
it's really funny. That's what makes it funny.
Well, it's. Interesting that you bring up
South Park because the creators of Mastone and Trey Parker, I
mean it's one in a million, one in a million chances that their
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process is is almost impossible to be replicated.
They stay up. Have you heard their process?
I have not. Actually, so this is a little
exclusive, you know, they were covered on major, major outlets
for various monumental successful feats in the
entertainment industry. They've won Tony Awards for The
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Book of Mormon. They've won Oscars for their
full length feature musical based film South Park, Bigger,
better, longer and uncut. And they've won Emmys.
They've won many, many awards. So their process in the way that
they stay so relevant is a 7 dayprocess.
They animate it all in house. They voice it all in house, they
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get it okayed by the lawyers, they get it okayed by the studio
and it usually involves like A1 all nighter and then it's
released. So the cultural relevance to
South Park is something that's very profound amongst the
animation landscape because it'sso relevant and they continue it
to be so relevant by working with the times right?
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As it goes. That's tough.
I mean, they've been on for almost what, 28 years?
And continuously, you know, rocking out product writing, the
creativity, the sheer creative nature behind South Park is
something very, very profound. Is the fact that, OK, you write
it, now you have to voice it? Family Guy, Simpsons, a lot of
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these other shows, they're sent to animation houses, they're
sent overseas to be animated by partnering studio or what have
you. And then it's brought back and
then they add the voices and so on and so forth.
But the brilliance behind Matt Stone and Trey Parker is their
ability to stay so relevant. And that's a feat, that's a feat
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to work. And it is theirs, which is truly
remarkable that it is theirs andtheir product alone.
And they're the ones that are voicing.
They're the ones that are, you know, kind of there.
It's one of those pieces of entertainment that relies very
heavily on the creative juices and the hands that are mixing
all this together because it is them doing it.
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And then we see what happens with Game of Thrones.
We see what happens with certaincreative stories that don't
stick the landing. They kind of deviate from the
source material, maybe the creator gets barred, has to go
to another property, go to another project, what have you.
But was South Park truly remarkable?
And definitely, definitely, definitely that is a
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conversation for another time. We will probably do an entire
South Park episode, right? But today you got some rankings.
I do. I asked you a few questions as
far as the three pinpoints of conversation pieces, which was
who would you consider the best TV dads?
Who would you consider the to bethe best animated family and the
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best cartoon all under that umbrella of that adult
animation? So what do you got for me today?
So for the best TV dads, I always had to start off with
Peter Griffin. Peter Griffin was the one that
started it for me. Watching those animated TV shows
and the way that he's portrayed in this show makes it like he's
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perfect for it. He's, he's got that mix of like
stupidity and he's got the mix of like also like sometimes
smart type of like personality to him.
And that makes it like, it makesit like dynamic character
because you can portray stereotypes with him because he
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has this wide range of personality that's really,
really dynamic. So you can make him be like like
some like protester or somethinglike that.
Or you can be like, you know, have him like a bank robber or
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something like that. Those are some really basic
examples. But like you can get him like,
for example, the Peter Copter, like, right, he's kind of stupid
in that crashes in the Cleveland's house and it's like,
right, right. It's so great.
How would one do that and the mix like this person?
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That's why I give him the best because he's so dynamic.
He can be an idiot and also smart at the same time.
And that helps, like, the other characters in Family Guy to,
like, be their own, like, character like Brian.
Brian is like this smart bookie guy, you know?
Yeah. He he likes to think that he is.
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He likes to think that he is. He's really not.
And that's. But it's the brilliance of how
they play off of one another. Yes, exactly.
It's like, like, Peter's like I'm doing cocaine, cocaine now
to, to, to get off my heroin addiction.
And and he's like, that is he's like, that's not how it works.
And then Brian walks back into the living room and he's like,
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what the fuck? What?
He's just flat on the floor. Right, right.
But that doesn't go to say that Brian is also stupid, because I
remember an episode where they drink something.
Brian, Stewie. Peter Epicet.
Yeah, Epicet. And they all decide who's going
to. Who can last the longest?
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Right. Well, it's actually, there's one
piece of pie left in the fridge,there's one piece of pie left
and so they all get epicet, which induces vomiting.
So Chris, Stewie, Brian and Peter all drink it and you know,
just. See how long And you know, Brian
being this logical person, there's a little part of him
that's like, you can like be a little idiotic about it.
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Or it's like Stewie. Stewie's also kind of smart, but
he's more of like that like, youknow, like the annoying smart
where he's kind of like correcting well, actually this
is what's really happening type of guy.
But he but he also has that devious little like personality
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to him where like in the original, like Family Guy shows
he's kind of like this evil kindof baby.
Yeah, they did change it quite abit.
It went from like the evil, likeLois must die, the world victory
shall we mine. You know, the whole notion of
that super intelligence, it kindof, it kind of segwayed.
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And one of the beautiful parts of that Segway that I thought
was really, really remarkable was the Stewie and Brian
Adventures, whether that's Road to Rhode Island Rd. to Germany,
road to the multi universe. Those really captivated on a
different level because it's, I mean, quintessentially it's a,
it's a dog and a baby, you know,And to your point, they're wide
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range of, you know, comedy and the way that it's conveyed and
smart, funny and sometimes very talented ways 'cause their songs
and those they bring a lot of actors.
It's obviously a very well regarded show for good reasons
and for bad reasons. And but you know, no, no press
is bad press. And so when you get a Ricky
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Gervais on there, when you get aTom Brady, when you get a Liam
Neeson, you you got you get thatpole.
But I would agree with you that Peter Griffin is definitely one
of the funnier TV dads for. Sure, you're right, and I don't
think that his if Peter didn't have the personality he did, I
feel like the personalities of everyone else within the within
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Family Guy would just kind of belesser would would be to an A
lesser extent. They wouldn't be as funny
because Peter is kind of like the center of it, right?
He's always, he's always has something going on.
And you know, with Peter's friends like Glenn Quagmire
makes it even better 'cause it'slike in real life, you have your
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friend group and there's always this one idiot or something like
that. They each bring something to the
park. All brings something special,
like with Glenn Quagmire being basically a pervert.
Yeah, he's, he's the what is that one of the ladies, one of
the side characters that they had mentioned in in one of the
episodes was just what I need. I need to be harassed by a big
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fat guy, a pervert, an old blackman and a cripple and a cripple.
And then Cleveland gives the best line, which is now we don't
have any money and all feelings.Are hurt that's funny that's.
Funny. That's my number one.
My number 2 is Stan from American Dad.
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Now I give that because I kind of is like, it's kind of like
he's he portrays the like the nuclear family.
You get the family for you got all those people in there and
he's kind of the center of it. All right.
And that's one of the big thing,even though I haven't watched
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much American Dad, it's a lot ofright.
It shows a lot of like world, real world context, which kind
of sounds like not funny, but it's a political satire.
But the political satire and allof that stuff, which that's
makes it really good. So that's why I put it #2 even
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though I haven't watched it thatmuch, my #3 though my number
three and two were kind of like,I kind of jumbled between them,
which was Homer Simpson and Homer.
It could have been too. It's just I've really actually
never watched The Simpsons. Really.
But the reason why I put him #3 is because he's iconic.
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Like anywhere in the world, someone could probably recognize
Homer Simpson and the fact that they've been on there, what, 30
years? Or they were like.
One of the longest running animated TV shows, I.
Think they do have it still. They just renewed again and as
of right now in the fall, heading into the fall, I mean,
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it's pretty well versed that it's a world renowned show.
I mean, we have the actual Scotland.
The Scotland argues over where Groundskeeper Willie hails from,
which is pretty remarkable. An entire part of the planet is
arguing over where this animatedcharacter is from.
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And he also has that like kind of Peter Griffin like
personality where he's kind of like he's kind of stupid, kind
of smart. But it's like, I think most like
what makes a good animated TV dad is they got to have a smart
side of them and then kind of a like a retarded side.
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It's like because that helps, you know, build off all the
other characters, right? And you could say that with
Homer, it's almost exactly like Family Guy because you have the
smart ass child, which is, I don't know his name, Bart, Bart,
where he's kind of like trying to get his way out of school or
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something like that. I mean, I haven't seen very many
of them, so. Have you seen the crossover
episode? The Family Guy Simpsons
crossover episode. You know, no, I have not.
But I know, I know they do reference like in Family Guy,
like we don't have an Oscar, butthe The Simpsons do.
They always make that like joke,nominate us for an Oscar.
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Right, right. It's kind of like begging
whoever does like. Yeah, they have.
They did the Emmy Award-winning episode.
That's right. And they're prior to that, they
did the very first Simpsons crossover where the characters,
the Griffins, Lois, Peter, Meg, Stewie, Bryan, they're all on a
road trip. And then they going to
Springfield and then they meet Marge, Homer, Lisa, Bart and
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Maggie. And it's a very, very creative
way of shedding light on that. The Simpsons is a highly
regarded, well regarded, well respected animated show, and
Family Guy is not. There's the iconic chicken fight
scenes and there's an icon. There's an even better fight
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scene between Homer and Peter where they're fighting.
And then there's this really hilarious moment where Homer
opens up the closet and he has all these Emmys and he gets
ready to throw them at Peter andPeter goes, hey, that's not
fair. I don't got none of those.
You've got a really good. Impression that's really Hey,
give me some. Of.
That, that's really funny. I recommend it.
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I recommend it. It's it's really, really fun.
It's a good one. And when you go to like the TV
shows, I really like how there'sthis kind of, I wouldn't say
stereotype, but like, idea that The Simpsons predict a lot of
things. Or it's like this event is
happening and it's like Donald Trump going down a elevator or
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like, you know, this war happening or something.
That's really funny to me, the predictive media that The
Simpsons have their fingers on the pulse for quite a bit of
things. Right.
And if you put like a little historical lens on it, it's
like, wow, It's like, it's really funny to see that somehow
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they predicted this. And I think that gives it better
show a bit of more like tractionin the media because I'm like,
Oh my God, Hillary Clinton did this to an e-mail.
And then they're like this in the in the show and they're
like, Oh my God, like. How do they know how?
Do they know, are they part of the Illuminati or some shit like
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that? Are they like, are they like,
are they like ruling the world or something?
And so that's what makes it really funny for some people is
like that whole predictive and all that predictive like
episodes, which is really funny to me.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. And I would agree with you there
that, you know, between Peter, Stan and Homer being three of
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the best, three of the funniest TV dads for sure.
Oh, yeah, absolutely. Yeah.
So what do you got next? OK, so we did.
We did. Peter Griffin, Stan Homer, and
then those are my top three. OK, we could put #4 Randy Marsh.
OK, now you're speaking my language because Randy Marsh is.
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He's really funny now. The reason why he isn't top
three is because the last like five seasons he was just kind of
a weed farmer. I liked I liked the seasons
where he was kind of doing like like stupid shit.
Whereas like there was an episode where he hired like a
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like an adult version of Stan tobe like, don't do drugs, don't
do this. And when when like Stan actually
cuts off his hand and he's and and he's like, well, it wasn't
Stan, but at the the adult guy actually cuts his hand off.
And Stan's like this was just like, like this was just like a
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fake hand, Right, right. And Stan's just like, why, why
did you do that? That that Marsh, Randy Marsh is
the best version. I didn't like how he was
portrayed as the the weed farmer.
Yeah, it was a bit of a, it was a bit of a jump, you know, some
of the best. Randy Marsh moments, which I
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know we'll get to with another episode that we'll we'll
probably have you back for wherehe is the star of it, which is
medicinal medicinal fried chicken, yes, which we'll talk
about that later down. But Randy Marsh from me, he, he
definitely echoes the comedic incompetence that is just
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utterly hilarious. Whether he joins A frat, whether
he is trying to get Stan off of freemium gaming, whether he
early days Stan too early days Stan was always kind of the
centered 1, you know, the centered one in this bonkers
family, you know, and one of my personal favorite Randy Marsh
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moments was nightmare on FaceTime when he bought
Blockbuster. I was just about to say that.
By far the funniest episode ever.
Big love to The Shining. Yes, obviously, right.
Right. And I just like when was it?
Shelley burns down the the the building.
Finally. He's like, thank God.
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And I was like, he's like going crazy, right?
Like I the reason like I put in #1 if they didn't throw him into
the weed farm that fast, becauseI think was it after the
pandemic special they did that to him.
Yeah, they right around about 5 maybe I think about 5 maybe six
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years ago they did kind of change up his character quite a
bit, you know, and I mean, you can you can say that it was
right with his character. I mean, obviously Matt, Matt
Stone and Trey Parker, if I had a a billion dollar, $1,000,000
show, I wouldn't want to change it either, right?
So I'm not knocking them for their creativity.
I think that it's, it's well earned for sure.
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It's just maybe not resonate with some of the people, but it
doesn't take away the comedy that he brought us before.
Right, right. Where would you put Randy Marsh
on your top? Like 5 or 3?
If, if I had a list of TV dads, if I had a animated ones, Randy
Marsh for me would probably sit somewhere between 2:00 and 3:00,
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just based purely on one. The South Park characters have
been with me for over, you know,30 years #1 and #2 the
dissonance between this somewhatnormal guy, because he's not
Peter Griffin and he's not Homer, he's not Jerry from.
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He's very unique. He's very boring.
He's a geologist. I mean, for crying out loud,
he's he's a very minute, silly one note character, but the
perspective that he gives makes that character work on so many
levels, not unlike Peter Griffin.
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But when you really dive into like, who is he?
Like, what does he do? Whether he's Lord, whether he is
trying to, you know, convince Sharon Shelley and Stan about
whatever is happening. Like when he gets hooked on the
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Food Network and he gets obsessed with Chef Ramsey and
cooking, which is great. I think it's just not so much
the shock factor behind it. And what South Park does so
brilliantly, particularly with Randy Marsh, is he's not an
assuming character. Peter Griffin's big, he's
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bombastic. He, he has the jokes, he has the
lines. We, we, you know him when you
see him. And I think Randy takes a bit of
a smarter approach with various things when he finds out that
marijuana is legal and wait, Oh my God, you can get marijuana.
And then you find out where you actually have to have a car.
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So then the normal person would be like, oh, well, that's that's
ridiculous. And then for him to take it one
step further where he is tanning, he's got an X-ray
machine, he's smoking a cigarette.
He is literally. He's giving himself cancer.
Yeah, he's putting his balls in a microwave and.
If he and in the wrong light, inthe wrong light, that that
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character could be widely considered idiotic and dumb.
But it's the writing and the dialogue that they give that
character that allows him to be funny.
And aside from allowing him to be funny, you just somehow allow
it to wash over you because theytake real concrete things that a
lot of people could find offensive.
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The whole Lord episode about thedifference between the bathrooms
that are in this country and therules of the gender.
And for him, I mean, that is a very sensitive subject, right?
So how do we attack this monumental, sensitive subject in
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a creative, comical way that's not targeting that subject, but
we are somehow intersecting thissubject with the content.
OK, well who's a big star right now?
OK, Lord just did The Hunger Games.
Young, very talented woman that is has a killer voice.
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Well, let's make Randy Marsh Lord.
OK, that is, I don't know how that works, but in that 20
minute dialogue they explain it to you and somehow you're like
OK, I guess that's. That's how it is now that's.
How it is. So I would put him probably two
or three. I would probably put him two or
three. Leaning more towards #3 because
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there's a lot of animated characters out there for sure.
And everybody has their different rosters and their
different lists, but not barringanything from how funny that
character is. You know, he, he definitely just
brings a lot of light because South Park and the brilliance
behind it, unlike Family Guy, Family Guy's face value, you see
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the family, they're all inter intertwined in some way or
another, whatever the storyline is, but for Randy.
Side character. Yeah, but for Randy, he didn't
really get a moment in the sun until few of the later few of
the later episodes, because it was always centered on the kids,
centered on what stories were involved with the kids.
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And then as the writing matured,as the show grew, it became, oh,
so we can actually start bringing in Kyle's parents.
We can bring in Stan's parents. We can bring in Kenny's parents.
Butter's parents. Exactly so the organic side puts
him at #2. Yes, for sure.
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And I think those extra relationships that Randy and so
and so have make it a better overall show, right?
And like you said, with Randy being #3 I also think that he's
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also up there because he gets turned into characters that just
like you would never think wouldhave a relation with like Lord,
like that's just out of nowhere.It's like very like odd, odd,
like, how would we make this funny?
That's the same thing with like Mr. Garrison, like Donald Trump,
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very, very similar, very similar, very similar.
But like Garrison's like all these different characters, he's
very dynamic and but they don't really have any connection with
him. But that's what makes it funny
because it's like just uncalled for.
Like who would have Randy Marsh as someone building soda, Sopa
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and like Whole Foods? Like he doesn't see he's just a
geologist. He's like a boring old dad and
making them have those weird like affiliations with people
makes it that much of A better character.
Correct. Because of all of that stuff.
And like when you have someone like Peter Griffin, he's up
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there on #1 because he has more of like a, like people could see
Peter Griffin and be like, oh, that's Peter Griffin.
Peter Griffin has his own skin in Fortnite.
He has all these like outside deals where he's on different
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games. He has, I believe at one point
he had like restaurant themed something after him in like
North Carolina. Don't don't quote me on it, but
he has a little more traction because he's more recognizable,
right, right. He's that big fat dad that's
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kind of stupid. Well, well, if you went to like
Randy Marsh, he's kind of, I mean, he's very funny, but
someone would be look at him. He's just kind of like.
He's, he's like the kind of dad that you would probably
remember, like in school, like you're going to a parent teacher
conference with your parents andthen you look over and see maybe
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your friend and they're like, oh, that's what his dad, the
mustache, he's got the pens and the pockets, you know?
And that's like with Stan from American Dad.
He doesn't look normal. He's kind of got that weird
looking. He's got the.
He's got the big chin, you know,but the, the political nature
behind American Dad is just fun.Yeah.
He's got a daughter that's a hippie.
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There's an alien. Alien in the house and it's kind
of just like, you know, the alien portrays the dog and then
like nuclear family type of thing.
And so like with all three of those families, they all have
something unique about them thatkind of makes them different
from each other. Because.
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Overall they they do the same thing but.
It's in the creative the. Creative.
Yeah, like, yeah, with Randy Marsh, we talked about how he's
just like uncanny stuff. And with American Dad, it's like
political events. And with like Homer Simpson,
he's just iconic, right. And with Family Guy, he's just
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like everyone's like builds around him and he's kind of like
an idiot dad. That kind of that kind of goes
around it. And if I were to put #5 I could
go to A5 and that would be Kyle's mom.
Well, mom, no mom, that's that'sthat's mom.
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It would be his dad, which was Iforget his Gerald, Gerald
Broblowski, because he has somewhat like something like
with Randy Marsh with, you know,being that was the he was like
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bullying people online and then he was like.
Yeah, he was the troll. He was the troll.
Yeah, yeah. Which means anyone could be a
troll, but it's funny that it's like a religious person being a
troll. Like he's this, he's portrayed
as this really religious person and some aspects, but when he's
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like making people commit suicide, it's kind of just like
a oxymor. And he's religious, but he's
also like. Well, and that what you just
said right there before we, before we move on to the other
piece of it, you said something really smart there where I think
that's what allows South Park tostand apart is because they're
bringing to light like a legitimate thing, like a
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legitimate thing that is within this world today, which is
online bullying. Right, right.
And it brings it from the perspective of, well, I would
never expect dot dot dot from XYand Z.
It could be. Anyone.
Exactly. And barring, you know, the awful
nature of that, you know, the dumpster fire that is online,
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sometimes it comes across in that way because it's like, who
The Who the fuck would say that?Why would you do that to
somebody? Why would you be responsible for
this or that or what have you? And then it turns out that it's
it's Kyle's father, which if if I had to pick a favorite moment
from from Kyle's father, would probably be the major boob age
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episode where they're cheesing or off off of the urine and
recovering. You know, he was in recovery and
he was like a former addict of this stuff.
And right. It just adds more layers, I
think, to a lot of these characters and how it's
portrayed is, as you so astutelyput it, like they're unassuming
characters, but they have this monumental impact right to
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various, you know, various, various things.
Absolutely. Bravo, my friend.
Bravo. Those are my top five.
Maybe the 5th was kind of just pulling it out of my ass.
No, no, you're all right. So what would you say for your
best animated families? So I.
I'm still kind of deciding on that lane.
It's like, it's like for me, it could be like, because I've
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never watched The Simpsons that much, but they're so.
Iconic. But I also want to say like the
Kyle's family, really Kyle's family, because if.
You look at. How Kyle's family deals with
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like Cartman, it's really funny.And the relationship between
Cartman and Kyle's family where it's kind of like Hartman's
like, you know, making fun of him being a Jewish.
And he's the episode where they have the child tracker and he's
like, stop being a stupid Jew. And she's like, what, what,
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what, you know, there's that relationship between the family
in Cartman that's like really prominent in the show because
there's always something he's doing to like, offend the family
or something to, you know, like make fun of the family.
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Like I just said, like the New Jersey episode, it's like
Cartman was like, ha ha, like, you know, you're becoming this
New Jerseyan person. And I put Simpsons.
In there is because. They have that just long
standing time where well you gotto recognize, you got to have, I
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mean, aside from being. Recognizable you also have to,
you know, bring bring to the forefront that each.
Each character brings. Something to the table.
And in a very grounded but heightened way.
You know, it's kind of heightened, but it's not as like
extravagant or as out there as an American dad or a Family Guy
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or a South Park. And when you take Homer, for
example, I can remember this. This was turning the world
upside down. The way he would act with Bart,
like the dad strangles his son, which is like, you can't watch
that, you know? And some of the characters are
drinking beer. They're going to Moe's.
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They're some. Cultural insensitivities that.
A lot of people would kind of turn their noses up and then you
meet people that have like, oh, well, well, wait a minute.
I really identify with that character.
Or I really have a neighbor thatI don't like, whether that's
Flanders, whether that's he has a job that he's not too fond of
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and he's a terrible employee. There's bits and pieces of
heightened reality there, but it's more ground level.
And I think when The Simpsons, barring the ability to be funny,
people can at least sit there and watch that and allow that to
wash over them more so than a Randy Marsh, a Gerald Buflowski
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or a stand from American Death. Yeah, it's easier for.
Them and it's. Also been on for so long, it's
been on for so long that it's just kind of their that security
blanket that The Simpsons has provided everybody with is
pretty remarkable. And especially of late because
they, you know, they killed Marge.
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Yeah, yeah. Which is a big, big jump of wait
a minute, what the fuck just happened exactly?
Exactly. Understanding that this is a
cartoon but and nobody ever really dies, but yeah, I would,
I would, I would. I would definitely agree with
you there on that one. It's it's it's it's a.
Good one. And then I could put like
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arguably, arguably you could putthe Mormon family on the episode
where in South Park where they have a bunch of Mormons where
it's kind of, I mean, I wouldn'teven put that top five, but give
them an honorable mention because they're like this really
friendly, kind of like obliviousfamily, right?
I wouldn't even do you know, do you know what I'm talking about?
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It's it's. I think that would be.
Something pretty funny. Well, the episode that you're
referring to. Is all about the Mormons.
Yes, that's where they have the dum dum, dum, dum.
Dum yes, the whole origin piece and once.
Again, they're taking a very, you know, can be a very hot
button topic, right? Right.
Harder to wash through, harder to like.
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Sit through and be like, how? How are we going to make fun of
this? How?
Are we going to poke fun at this?
And you cannot be, you know, once again, Randy, you can't
beat Randy and Stan on the fact that like, why are they so nice?
I went over there to, I went over there to, to beat the kid
up. And then I'm actually going over
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to, he actually invited me over to his house for dinner.
And then Randy does the same thing where he's like, I'm going
to go kick his ass. And then he goes and he's like,
no, we're actually having dinnerwith him on Friday and says
that's the same thing that happened to me.
And so I would definitely give them an honorable mention as far
as like what they bring to it. And once again, it's the
creative juices that just flow between Matt and Trey to allow
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how do we make fun of this? But how do we make this somewhat
A serviceable joke? So we're not offending
everybody, but we're still making fun of it.
Now how much of the like relationship?
Of the producers and the animators would have in making a
good family. Like what would make a good
animated family? If you can make your own, how
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would you want it? How would you create it?
Like a question question. I think it would just kind of
bar, you know, you have to borrow various elements of what
has already existed. I mean, you got Hank Hill from
King of the Hill, which is, you know, the whole backdrop of it
is a working class family. And then you have, you know,
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various characters that maybe have deserved like spin off type
material on the Cleveland Show. And then you get most of these
characters that just slowly findtheir voices as everything
progresses because the content would suggest that it takes on a
life of its own. And taking on a life of its own.
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You understand that, OK, the show was about XY and Z, but now
it's completely about something different.
So you almost need to have a utilitarian amount of kids or
amount of parents in this familythat can go either which way.
Because this is animation. And you can get away with a lot
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more through an animated lens than a realistic lens.
And when you deal with people that for whatever reason may
find it offensive, may find it rude or hurtful, you can always
have the guiding light over likea North star, if you will, that
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this is a cartoon. And understanding that this is a
cartoon, each character kind of needs to have, you know, their
little quirk, their little part of their personality.
And it needs to be a very realized personality before you
can slowly start amplifying everything.
Right? I've really.
I've really. Liked that idea because in like
the American dad, you have the dad and then you have like the
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hippie and then you have the alien and then you have the mom,
right? That's kind of like the, they
all have their own unique type of thing.
And especially with having a hippie daughter and like, which
seems to be a very conservative dad, it's kind of like, you
know, there's going to be, there's going to be conflict.
But that's what. Makes it a good family.
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Same with. Like Family Guy.
You get the relationship betweenBrian and Stewie.
You also have the relationship between all of them and Meg.
Or makes kind of just this punching back for everyone, and
that's what makes it really goodtoo.
And that wasn't always the case,though that was.
That's what I'm talking about when you deal with like.
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When you deal with. Creating a character and
creating a, you know, markup of a good family, you need to have
your like, centerpiece. You need to have something that
allows the audience to be anchored in right?
And then slowly you can ramp up and build to what it is that
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you're trying to convey. And what you're trying to convey
might be something comical, might be something crude, might
be something offensive. But it's the way it has to be
navigated, you know? And for some people, it doesn't
work. For a lot of people, it doesn't
work. There's many, many, many things
out there that just do not resonate with people.
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People will not be OK with it. People will be offended by it.
People will be upset by it. And what makes a good family is
understanding that, yeah, this is a family, but it's not family
with a capital F. You know, you can take FS for
family, for example, one with Bill Burr, which is essentially
an amalgamation of his jokes andhis father and his mind wrapped
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up in a beautiful, offensive, hilarious box of the nuclear
family, right? And that's what makes it funny.
That's what makes it good. But it's the.
Creativity that. Flows right right, but you also
have to understand that some of the stuff is kind of like
recycled over and over and over and over and over again.
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But then you also get like, you know, Rick and Morty, the big,
the big selling point behind Rick and Morty is it's not even
the dad, it's the grandpa, you know, and they touch on that
too, that it's one extreme character in this fantastical,
awful, terrifying, multi dimensional world.
And you have, you have Morty, you have summer, you have Beth
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and you have Jerry. OK, two parents, two kids.
And then you have a grandfather that is awful.
He's a maniac, he's a lunatic. And he's the selling point in
this very grounded, very predictable average family.
And then it just the the doors come off and then you're in
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multiple dimensions and then you're dealing with creatures,
you're dealing with aliens, you're dealing with the massive
amount of things that make that show work right.
And I really like how you. Said something about like how
some of these people reuse stuffover and over and over and I
really think that was a big factor in kind of my opinion,
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the fall off of Family Guy, right?
I feel like lots of their jokes always came from the same type
of like structured joke where they have they, they will have a
conversation, it will go to likea another scene where they call
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like a like a side cut or it's acutaway cutaway and then.
They'll go away. From the cutaway back to their
conversation. And it was like that over, over
and over and over. And they kind of reused that and
saying like, that's what makes South Park unique because they
have different ways of making these jokes.
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And it's very like, unique in the way how they do it.
It's not redundant. Yes, it's not redundant.
Yes, we will go into more depth with South Park, definitely,
because that's that warrant thatwarrants another episode for
sure. Do you have any other rankings
off the top of your head? Because you have best cartoon
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too, I know. We talked about that like if you
could pick like a best cartoon, yeah, I could say that.
And that would for me. Obviously would be South Park.
OK. Why do you think South?
Park for you just takes the cakeabove, you know The Simpsons
above Family Guy, because bear in mind, you are working your
way through a lot of the stuff that you're still watching a lot
of it, you're still working yourway through it.
Not a lot of this I've seen so. There's a lot of, I mean, I'm
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more experienced, but Family Guyin South Park, that's not a lot.
But I'm working through doing The Simpsons right now.
Like I just started early versions of The Simpsons and
mixing some of the best, yeah. That's good, but.
That makes it harder to make AI guess an opinion of all these
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shows because you haven't quite seen everything.
And that's why I put South Park at the front, because I've seen
a lot of South Park and it's given me a lot of the, you know,
funniest. It's more.
It's it's more. Funny to me, right?
I get a good laugh at it. I don't care if it offends me.
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Like if you say something about,I don't know, something that
offends me, I'm like, I don't care.
I know it's a joke. And I think that's what makes it
good for me is because they don't care about offending
people. They only think about the joke.
And I think if you can put your opinions aside and just laugh at
what they did, that's what makesit, I think, better than a lot
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of people. And they're more willing to make
a bigger step in their episodes to make something more
egregious, more intense than anyone else.
That's what compared to like Family Guy, I don't think
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they're willing to do something as big as, you know, 911 jokes
having planes flown at each other and exploding up these New
Jersey and people. Family Guy has a good jokes, but
I don't think they'd ever do something that you know, Yeah,
they both offends that. Group of people that.
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Much. And it's interesting that you
say that. And that's one thing that I
definitely, I think is a good place to wrap this episode up
on. And the best note about that is
having the. Pieces of both.
Shows and the pieces of both shows being very appropriate is
there's a very famous South Parkepisode I think it's.
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A2 Part. Maybe a three is the cartoon
wars where they are going to getFamily Guy taken off the air,
right, right. But then you also have Kyle, who
loves the show, Family Guy, right?
And then you have the main character.
In Cartman. Who is essentially Matt and Trey
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speaking to us, the viewer, thatwe're nothing like Family Guy.
It's interchangeable jokes. It's interchangeable.
We're not redundant. We're not repetitive.
But. They're not.
Hacking it. And they're not slashing a
Family Guy. They're making creative puns
about how could someone do something so offensive?
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Exactly how could someone do something so egregious?
And it's like, well, it's the only show that doesn't care who
they feel. And exactly.
But that's that's what makes it.Good.
Exactly. They just don't care and that
makes for a better episode because you can take all sides
and just hit them. Like hit all sides.
You'd be like Jews, Christians, Mormons, all kinds of areas,
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especially religion. Like they have multiple religion
videos and people too, like celebrities, Margaret Thatcher,
all kinds of all kinds of people.
They just don't care. That's what I really like about
it and that's what makes it and personally, the number one adult
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film or adult, not adult, not quite like that.
Not quite like that, but you definitely have the the adult,
you know, animation standard like the high, high, high table
high standard for sure. And I would.
I would definitely agree with you there.
That their ability. To.
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We're not just. Going to go after one group.
We're not just going to go afterone person.
We're not going to go after one event.
We're going to go for all of it.Exactly.
Exactly. Yeah.
So I think what we should do. Is we got to get you back here
in the studio for a dedicated South Park.
What we'll do is we'll call this, we'll call this episode
Animation Rankings with Zach. Part 1, Part 1, Part 1.
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Alright, OK, I'll have you back for Part 2 for sure.
We'll come back for Part 2. I'll come back anytime.
Alright, great time here. Awesome man.
Especially for my first time, I had a good time talking about
this. Absolutely.
Yeah. Yeah.
You have anybody? You want to shout out before we
get out of here? No, not right now.
No, no. Alright, Zach, I'll tell you
what, man. We're going to have you back for
Part 2. We're going to dedicate this
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one, I believe we're gonna dedicate the Part 2 to South
Park. And I know you got a bunch of
episodes that you watched, a bunch of ones that resonated
with you. We're gonna dive into all that,
OK for Part 2, Right? Right.
Alright. Alright, my man.
We'll see you in a bit. Alright, boss.
Thank you. Hey for everybody.
Else out there. Thank you so much for making
this platform a part of your day.
Thank you so much for making this podcast a part of your day.
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a part of your day. And I'll tell you what
television is at an all time high, the golden age of
television. Television used to be something
that most actors feared, most creative artists feared going to
TV because it was essentially where stars went that were
dusted and done and gone. However, today's day and age,
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whether that's Netflix, whether that's Hulu, whether that is
HBO, that is where most of the entertainment today and today's
2025 thrives in. And it's not without a short
means or long term storytelling,amazing characters, very, very
talented people. And especially with today's
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episode, it is all about animation.
And not just any particular animation, but adult animation.
And when I say adult animation, we obviously know The Simpsons
reign supreme. It follows very closely with
South Park, Family Guy, various shows under the sun that are for
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a trusted audience. It's a trusted audience that
understands that this is not forchildren, but the creativity is
still whether that's the holdingup a mirror to society, whether
that's the cynical views, whether that is the perspective
of various things in our world. But in animated form, most TV
networks, we're a little apprehensive at first, whether
(01:49):
that's a show about yellow people or about a bunch of foul
mouthed kids from South Park. We're going to dive into all
this today and diving into all this today.
We're going to talk with somebody very, very close,
friend of the show, long term listener, first time in the
studio, live in person. We're going to do some rankings.
We're going to talk about best shows.
We're going to talk about best families, we're going to talk
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about best dads, all under the umbrella of animation.
Now, bear with me. This episode could get a little
controversial because we are talking about certain characters
that are deemed controversial. We'll find out.
You be the judge. Jump down in the comments
section below. Leave me your thoughts there.
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But before you do that, I'd liketo welcome in Zach.
What's going on, buddy? Good.
Not much. I'm excited to be here and here
and say some crazy things and maybe see what we can get out of
these people. But I'm excited to be here and
I've, I've been waiting for what, quite a while, maybe
almost a month around. Right, it's busy.
It's busy, but you have a lot ofpeople on and, you know, getting
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to be one of those people is kind of an honor.
You know, I've never been on something like this and it's
exciting to see what you could have here for us so.
Absolutely, man. Yeah.
It's a conversation piece. We were talking before we
started recording, and one of the biggest pieces is it's
played quite a bit. So people will hear your voice,
right, And you're gonna be back.Obviously, you'll be back.
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Mm. Hmm.
But when people hear your voice,it's kind of they create what
you look like, you know, which is the beauty of audio.
Yeah, they get to look at it, you know, and be like, visualize
it exactly. Brain work a little bit, you
know? I think it's amazing and I want
to thank you so much for being here.
Thank you for wanting to be a part of this.
Before we get on to the rankingsthat you have, where did you
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find yourself with the adult animation like Simpsons Family
Guy? Where did you find yourself with
that? Like, what was the bridge that
allowed you to kind of like, letthat world and kind of wash over
you? For me, it was YouTube.
You know, there's compilations of like best Family Guy moments
(04:00):
or it's like, you know, like 10 minute videos of like the
craziest shit that's ever happened on like South Park or
you know, The Simpsons or it's like short Instagram videos or
like stuff like that. What really like the very first
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stuff like that made me get in like episodes was Family Guy.
I used to watch Family Guy all the time and so that was like
episodes where Stewie is like duplicating himself and it's
like like he's reversed 9/11 andstuff like that.
Those episodes were like the OG ones and then passed after that.
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I kind of didn't really watch TVthat much.
Those animated and then South Park, you know, with Cos Bonita
and hearing that on the news. And I was like, I got to watch
South Park. And so within the last year or
two, I've been able to watch a pretty significant big chunk of
South Park. And that's when I really started
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like paying attention to like certain things and like this
adult era of like animation. And so that's that's what really
got me into it, which was just YouTube, you know, just
recommendations like top 10 S Park home, like Simpsons
Cleveland show, stuff like that.That really got me into it.
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Did you ever think for one second that barring, like the
comedy aspect of it, because it can be considered offensive, it
can be considered outrageous? Did it ever hit you in that way
that the shock factor is kind ofwhat allows these shows to be
successful? Like you're not going to believe
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what they did on the show. You know, yes, I totally, I
would. I would totally agree with that.
Yeah, because I don't think without the factor of having
that like like politically incorrect language.
Correct. Would if they didn't have that,
I don't think these shows would be that interesting because they
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wouldn't have anything to make fun of or anything to, you know,
throw jokes at a reference, a reference.
If you didn't have something to just make a joke at, then it
would just be kind of just like boring like what would they?
It'd just be like a animated sitcom, all right.
And what makes it even better issome people don't understand
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that and they're like, this is aterrible show because, you know,
so and so-called Jennifer Lopez a slut or something like that,
when in reality they're just joking, right?
Right. And that's what makes it even
better is the reaction that the public gets from these and they
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try to ruin the show through that because they don't
understand it's really all just jokes, right?
That's the whole point of these shows is to kind of like have
some controversial like ideas about them.
And one of those things was likethe Scientology episode in South
Park, right, where they had all kinds of these celebrities.
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Like I have things like Tom Cruise, like he's inside the
closet, guys. People do not like that.
And I think without with withoutthat, it would just kind of be,
at least in my opinion, boring and I probably wouldn't have
much interest. What gives the interest is that
that these jokes like they're inlike politically incorrect and
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they, you know, they have, they have what's the word relevance,
relevance to the world because it's updated and it's, it's,
it's really funny. That's what makes it funny.
Well, it's. Interesting that you bring up
South Park because the creators of Mastone and Trey Parker, I
mean it's one in a million, one in a million chances that their
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process is is almost impossible to be replicated.
They stay up. Have you heard their process?
I have not. Actually, so this is a little
exclusive, you know, they were covered on major, major outlets
for various monumental successful feats in the
entertainment industry. They've won Tony Awards for The
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Book of Mormon. They've won Oscars for their
full length feature musical based film South Park, Bigger,
better, longer and uncut. And they've won Emmys.
They've won many, many awards. So their process in the way that
they stay so relevant is a 7 dayprocess.
They animate it all in house. They voice it all in house, they
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get it okayed by the lawyers, they get it okayed by the studio
and it usually involves like A1 all nighter and then it's
released. So the cultural relevance to
South Park is something that's very profound amongst the
animation landscape because it'sso relevant and they continue it
to be so relevant by working with the times right?
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As it goes. That's tough.
I mean, they've been on for almost what, 28 years?
And continuously, you know, rocking out product writing, the
creativity, the sheer creative nature behind South Park is
something very, very profound. Is the fact that, OK, you write
it, now you have to voice it? Family Guy, Simpsons, a lot of
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these other shows, they're sent to animation houses, they're
sent overseas to be animated by partnering studio or what have
you. And then it's brought back and
then they add the voices and so on and so forth.
But the brilliance behind Matt Stone and Trey Parker is their
ability to stay so relevant. And that's a feat, that's a feat
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to work. And it is theirs, which is truly
remarkable that it is theirs andtheir product alone.
And they're the ones that are voicing.
They're the ones that are, you know, kind of there.
It's one of those pieces of entertainment that relies very
heavily on the creative juices and the hands that are mixing
all this together because it is them doing it.
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And then we see what happens with Game of Thrones.
We see what happens with certaincreative stories that don't
stick the landing. They kind of deviate from the
source material, maybe the creator gets barred, has to go
to another property, go to another project, what have you.
But was South Park truly remarkable?
And definitely, definitely, definitely that is a
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conversation for another time. We will probably do an entire
South Park episode, right? But today you got some rankings.
I do. I asked you a few questions as
far as the three pinpoints of conversation pieces, which was
who would you consider the best TV dads?
Who would you consider the to bethe best animated family and the
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best cartoon all under that umbrella of that adult
animation? So what do you got for me today?
So for the best TV dads, I always had to start off with
Peter Griffin. Peter Griffin was the one that
started it for me. Watching those animated TV shows
and the way that he's portrayed in this show makes it like he's
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perfect for it. He's, he's got that mix of like
stupidity and he's got the mix of like also like sometimes
smart type of like personality to him.
And that makes it like, it makesit like dynamic character
because you can portray stereotypes with him because he
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has this wide range of personality that's really,
really dynamic. So you can make him be like like
some like protester or somethinglike that.
Or you can be like, you know, have him like a bank robber or
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something like that. Those are some really basic
examples. But like you can get him like,
for example, the Peter Copter, like, right, he's kind of stupid
in that crashes in the Cleveland's house and it's like,
right, right. It's so great.
How would one do that and the mix like this person?
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That's why I give him the best because he's so dynamic.
He can be an idiot and also smart at the same time.
And that helps, like, the other characters in Family Guy to,
like, be their own, like, character like Brian.
Brian is like this smart bookie guy, you know?
Yeah. He he likes to think that he is.
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He likes to think that he is. He's really not.
And that's. But it's the brilliance of how
they play off of one another. Yes, exactly.
It's like, like, Peter's like I'm doing cocaine, cocaine now
to, to, to get off my heroin addiction.
And and he's like, that is he's like, that's not how it works.
And then Brian walks back into the living room and he's like,
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what the fuck? What?
He's just flat on the floor. Right, right.
But that doesn't go to say that Brian is also stupid, because I
remember an episode where they drink something.
Brian, Stewie. Peter Epicet.
Yeah, Epicet. And they all decide who's going
to. Who can last the longest?
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Right. Well, it's actually, there's one
piece of pie left in the fridge,there's one piece of pie left
and so they all get epicet, which induces vomiting.
So Chris, Stewie, Brian and Peter all drink it and you know,
just. See how long And you know, Brian
being this logical person, there's a little part of him
that's like, you can like be a little idiotic about it.
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Or it's like Stewie. Stewie's also kind of smart, but
he's more of like that like, youknow, like the annoying smart
where he's kind of like correcting well, actually this
is what's really happening type of guy.
But he but he also has that devious little like personality
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to him where like in the original, like Family Guy shows
he's kind of like this evil kindof baby.
Yeah, they did change it quite abit.
It went from like the evil, likeLois must die, the world victory
shall we mine. You know, the whole notion of
that super intelligence, it kindof, it kind of segwayed.
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And one of the beautiful parts of that Segway that I thought
was really, really remarkable was the Stewie and Brian
Adventures, whether that's Road to Rhode Island Rd. to Germany,
road to the multi universe. Those really captivated on a
different level because it's, I mean, quintessentially it's a,
it's a dog and a baby, you know,And to your point, they're wide
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range of, you know, comedy and the way that it's conveyed and
smart, funny and sometimes very talented ways 'cause their songs
and those they bring a lot of actors.
It's obviously a very well regarded show for good reasons
and for bad reasons. And but you know, no, no press
is bad press. And so when you get a Ricky
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Gervais on there, when you get aTom Brady, when you get a Liam
Neeson, you you got you get thatpole.
But I would agree with you that Peter Griffin is definitely one
of the funnier TV dads for. Sure, you're right, and I don't
think that his if Peter didn't have the personality he did, I
feel like the personalities of everyone else within the within
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Family Guy would just kind of belesser would would be to an A
lesser extent. They wouldn't be as funny
because Peter is kind of like the center of it, right?
He's always, he's always has something going on.
And you know, with Peter's friends like Glenn Quagmire
makes it even better 'cause it'slike in real life, you have your
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friend group and there's always this one idiot or something like
that. They each bring something to the
park. All brings something special,
like with Glenn Quagmire being basically a pervert.
Yeah, he's, he's the what is that one of the ladies, one of
the side characters that they had mentioned in in one of the
episodes was just what I need. I need to be harassed by a big
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fat guy, a pervert, an old blackman and a cripple and a cripple.
And then Cleveland gives the best line, which is now we don't
have any money and all feelings.Are hurt that's funny that's.
Funny. That's my number one.
My number 2 is Stan from American Dad.
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Now I give that because I kind of is like, it's kind of like
he's he portrays the like the nuclear family.
You get the family for you got all those people in there and
he's kind of the center of it. All right.
And that's one of the big thing,even though I haven't watched
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much American Dad, it's a lot ofright.
It shows a lot of like world, real world context, which kind
of sounds like not funny, but it's a political satire.
But the political satire and allof that stuff, which that's
makes it really good. So that's why I put it #2 even
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though I haven't watched it thatmuch, my #3 though my number
three and two were kind of like,I kind of jumbled between them,
which was Homer Simpson and Homer.
It could have been too. It's just I've really actually
never watched The Simpsons. Really.
But the reason why I put him #3 is because he's iconic.
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Like anywhere in the world, someone could probably recognize
Homer Simpson and the fact that they've been on there, what, 30
years? Or they were like.
One of the longest running animated TV shows, I.
Think they do have it still. They just renewed again and as
of right now in the fall, heading into the fall, I mean,
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it's pretty well versed that it's a world renowned show.
I mean, we have the actual Scotland.
The Scotland argues over where Groundskeeper Willie hails from,
which is pretty remarkable. An entire part of the planet is
arguing over where this animatedcharacter is from.
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And he also has that like kind of Peter Griffin like
personality where he's kind of like he's kind of stupid, kind
of smart. But it's like, I think most like
what makes a good animated TV dad is they got to have a smart
side of them and then kind of a like a retarded side.
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It's like because that helps, you know, build off all the
other characters, right? And you could say that with
Homer, it's almost exactly like Family Guy because you have the
smart ass child, which is, I don't know his name, Bart, Bart,
where he's kind of like trying to get his way out of school or
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something like that. I mean, I haven't seen very many
of them, so. Have you seen the crossover
episode? The Family Guy Simpsons
crossover episode. You know, no, I have not.
But I know, I know they do reference like in Family Guy,
like we don't have an Oscar, butthe The Simpsons do.
They always make that like joke,nominate us for an Oscar.
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Right, right. It's kind of like begging
whoever does like. Yeah, they have.
They did the Emmy Award-winning episode.
That's right. And they're prior to that, they
did the very first Simpsons crossover where the characters,
the Griffins, Lois, Peter, Meg, Stewie, Bryan, they're all on a
road trip. And then they going to
Springfield and then they meet Marge, Homer, Lisa, Bart and
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Maggie. And it's a very, very creative
way of shedding light on that. The Simpsons is a highly
regarded, well regarded, well respected animated show, and
Family Guy is not. There's the iconic chicken fight
scenes and there's an icon. There's an even better fight
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scene between Homer and Peter where they're fighting.
And then there's this really hilarious moment where Homer
opens up the closet and he has all these Emmys and he gets
ready to throw them at Peter andPeter goes, hey, that's not
fair. I don't got none of those.
You've got a really good. Impression that's really Hey,
give me some. Of.
That, that's really funny. I recommend it.
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I recommend it. It's it's really, really fun.
It's a good one. And when you go to like the TV
shows, I really like how there'sthis kind of, I wouldn't say
stereotype, but like, idea that The Simpsons predict a lot of
things. Or it's like this event is
happening and it's like Donald Trump going down a elevator or
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like, you know, this war happening or something.
That's really funny to me, the predictive media that The
Simpsons have their fingers on the pulse for quite a bit of
things. Right.
And if you put like a little historical lens on it, it's
like, wow, It's like, it's really funny to see that somehow
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they predicted this. And I think that gives it better
show a bit of more like tractionin the media because I'm like,
Oh my God, Hillary Clinton did this to an e-mail.
And then they're like this in the in the show and they're
like, Oh my God, like. How do they know how?
Do they know, are they part of the Illuminati or some shit like
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that? Are they like, are they like,
are they like ruling the world or something?
And so that's what makes it really funny for some people is
like that whole predictive and all that predictive like
episodes, which is really funny to me.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. And I would agree with you there
that, you know, between Peter, Stan and Homer being three of
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the best, three of the funniest TV dads for sure.
Oh, yeah, absolutely. Yeah.
So what do you got next? OK, so we did.
We did. Peter Griffin, Stan Homer, and
then those are my top three. OK, we could put #4 Randy Marsh.
OK, now you're speaking my language because Randy Marsh is.
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He's really funny now. The reason why he isn't top
three is because the last like five seasons he was just kind of
a weed farmer. I liked I liked the seasons
where he was kind of doing like like stupid shit.
Whereas like there was an episode where he hired like a
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like an adult version of Stan tobe like, don't do drugs, don't
do this. And when when like Stan actually
cuts off his hand and he's and and he's like, well, it wasn't
Stan, but at the the adult guy actually cuts his hand off.
And Stan's like this was just like, like this was just like a
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fake hand, Right, right. And Stan's just like, why, why
did you do that? That that Marsh, Randy Marsh is
the best version. I didn't like how he was
portrayed as the the weed farmer.
Yeah, it was a bit of a, it was a bit of a jump, you know, some
of the best. Randy Marsh moments, which I
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know we'll get to with another episode that we'll we'll
probably have you back for wherehe is the star of it, which is
medicinal medicinal fried chicken, yes, which we'll talk
about that later down. But Randy Marsh from me, he, he
definitely echoes the comedic incompetence that is just
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utterly hilarious. Whether he joins A frat, whether
he is trying to get Stan off of freemium gaming, whether he
early days Stan too early days Stan was always kind of the
centered 1, you know, the centered one in this bonkers
family, you know, and one of my personal favorite Randy Marsh
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moments was nightmare on FaceTime when he bought
Blockbuster. I was just about to say that.
By far the funniest episode ever.
Big love to The Shining. Yes, obviously, right.
Right. And I just like when was it?
Shelley burns down the the the building.
Finally. He's like, thank God.
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And I was like, he's like going crazy, right?
Like I the reason like I put in #1 if they didn't throw him into
the weed farm that fast, becauseI think was it after the
pandemic special they did that to him.
Yeah, they right around about 5 maybe I think about 5 maybe six
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years ago they did kind of change up his character quite a
bit, you know, and I mean, you can you can say that it was
right with his character. I mean, obviously Matt, Matt
Stone and Trey Parker, if I had a a billion dollar, $1,000,000
show, I wouldn't want to change it either, right?
So I'm not knocking them for their creativity.
I think that it's, it's well earned for sure.
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It's just maybe not resonate with some of the people, but it
doesn't take away the comedy that he brought us before.
Right, right. Where would you put Randy Marsh
on your top? Like 5 or 3?
If, if I had a list of TV dads, if I had a animated ones, Randy
Marsh for me would probably sit somewhere between 2:00 and 3:00,
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just based purely on one. The South Park characters have
been with me for over, you know,30 years #1 and #2 the
dissonance between this somewhatnormal guy, because he's not
Peter Griffin and he's not Homer, he's not Jerry from.
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He's very unique. He's very boring.
He's a geologist. I mean, for crying out loud,
he's he's a very minute, silly one note character, but the
perspective that he gives makes that character work on so many
levels, not unlike Peter Griffin.
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But when you really dive into like, who is he?
Like, what does he do? Whether he's Lord, whether he is
trying to, you know, convince Sharon Shelley and Stan about
whatever is happening. Like when he gets hooked on the
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Food Network and he gets obsessed with Chef Ramsey and
cooking, which is great. I think it's just not so much
the shock factor behind it. And what South Park does so
brilliantly, particularly with Randy Marsh, is he's not an
assuming character. Peter Griffin's big, he's
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bombastic. He, he has the jokes, he has the
lines. We, we, you know him when you
see him. And I think Randy takes a bit of
a smarter approach with various things when he finds out that
marijuana is legal and wait, Oh my God, you can get marijuana.
And then you find out where you actually have to have a car.
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So then the normal person would be like, oh, well, that's that's
ridiculous. And then for him to take it one
step further where he is tanning, he's got an X-ray
machine, he's smoking a cigarette.
He is literally. He's giving himself cancer.
Yeah, he's putting his balls in a microwave and.
If he and in the wrong light, inthe wrong light, that that
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character could be widely considered idiotic and dumb.
But it's the writing and the dialogue that they give that
character that allows him to be funny.
And aside from allowing him to be funny, you just somehow allow
it to wash over you because theytake real concrete things that a
lot of people could find offensive.
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The whole Lord episode about thedifference between the bathrooms
that are in this country and therules of the gender.
And for him, I mean, that is a very sensitive subject, right?
So how do we attack this monumental, sensitive subject in
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a creative, comical way that's not targeting that subject, but
we are somehow intersecting thissubject with the content.
OK, well who's a big star right now?
OK, Lord just did The Hunger Games.
Young, very talented woman that is has a killer voice.
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Well, let's make Randy Marsh Lord.
OK, that is, I don't know how that works, but in that 20
minute dialogue they explain it to you and somehow you're like
OK, I guess that's. That's how it is now that's.
How it is. So I would put him probably two
or three. I would probably put him two or
three. Leaning more towards #3 because
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there's a lot of animated characters out there for sure.
And everybody has their different rosters and their
different lists, but not barringanything from how funny that
character is. You know, he, he definitely just
brings a lot of light because South Park and the brilliance
behind it, unlike Family Guy, Family Guy's face value, you see
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the family, they're all inter intertwined in some way or
another, whatever the storyline is, but for Randy.
Side character. Yeah, but for Randy, he didn't
really get a moment in the sun until few of the later few of
the later episodes, because it was always centered on the kids,
centered on what stories were involved with the kids.
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And then as the writing matured,as the show grew, it became, oh,
so we can actually start bringing in Kyle's parents.
We can bring in Stan's parents. We can bring in Kenny's parents.
Butter's parents. Exactly so the organic side puts
him at #2. Yes, for sure.
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And I think those extra relationships that Randy and so
and so have make it a better overall show, right?
And like you said, with Randy being #3 I also think that he's
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also up there because he gets turned into characters that just
like you would never think wouldhave a relation with like Lord,
like that's just out of nowhere.It's like very like odd, odd,
like, how would we make this funny?
That's the same thing with like Mr. Garrison, like Donald Trump,
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very, very similar, very similar, very similar.
But like Garrison's like all these different characters, he's
very dynamic and but they don't really have any connection with
him. But that's what makes it funny
because it's like just uncalled for.
Like who would have Randy Marsh as someone building soda, Sopa
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and like Whole Foods? Like he doesn't see he's just a
geologist. He's like a boring old dad and
making them have those weird like affiliations with people
makes it that much of A better character.
Correct. Because of all of that stuff.
And like when you have someone like Peter Griffin, he's up
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there on #1 because he has more of like a, like people could see
Peter Griffin and be like, oh, that's Peter Griffin.
Peter Griffin has his own skin in Fortnite.
He has all these like outside deals where he's on different
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games. He has, I believe at one point
he had like restaurant themed something after him in like
North Carolina. Don't don't quote me on it, but
he has a little more traction because he's more recognizable,
right, right. He's that big fat dad that's
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kind of stupid. Well, well, if you went to like
Randy Marsh, he's kind of, I mean, he's very funny, but
someone would be look at him. He's just kind of like.
He's, he's like the kind of dad that you would probably
remember, like in school, like you're going to a parent teacher
conference with your parents andthen you look over and see maybe
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your friend and they're like, oh, that's what his dad, the
mustache, he's got the pens and the pockets, you know?
And that's like with Stan from American Dad.
He doesn't look normal. He's kind of got that weird
looking. He's got the.
He's got the big chin, you know,but the, the political nature
behind American Dad is just fun.Yeah.
He's got a daughter that's a hippie.
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There's an alien. Alien in the house and it's kind
of just like, you know, the alien portrays the dog and then
like nuclear family type of thing.
And so like with all three of those families, they all have
something unique about them thatkind of makes them different
from each other. Because.
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Overall they they do the same thing but.
It's in the creative the. Creative.
Yeah, like, yeah, with Randy Marsh, we talked about how he's
just like uncanny stuff. And with American Dad, it's like
political events. And with like Homer Simpson,
he's just iconic, right. And with Family Guy, he's just
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like everyone's like builds around him and he's kind of like
an idiot dad. That kind of that kind of goes
around it. And if I were to put #5 I could
go to A5 and that would be Kyle's mom.
Well, mom, no mom, that's that'sthat's mom.
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It would be his dad, which was Iforget his Gerald, Gerald
Broblowski, because he has somewhat like something like
with Randy Marsh with, you know,being that was the he was like
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bullying people online and then he was like.
Yeah, he was the troll. He was the troll.
Yeah, yeah. Which means anyone could be a
troll, but it's funny that it's like a religious person being a
troll. Like he's this, he's portrayed
as this really religious person and some aspects, but when he's
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like making people commit suicide, it's kind of just like
a oxymor. And he's religious, but he's
also like. Well, and that what you just
said right there before we, before we move on to the other
piece of it, you said something really smart there where I think
that's what allows South Park tostand apart is because they're
bringing to light like a legitimate thing, like a
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legitimate thing that is within this world today, which is
online bullying. Right, right.
And it brings it from the perspective of, well, I would
never expect dot dot dot from XYand Z.
It could be. Anyone.
Exactly. And barring, you know, the awful
nature of that, you know, the dumpster fire that is online,
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sometimes it comes across in that way because it's like, who
The Who the fuck would say that?Why would you do that to
somebody? Why would you be responsible for
this or that or what have you? And then it turns out that it's
it's Kyle's father, which if if I had to pick a favorite moment
from from Kyle's father, would probably be the major boob age
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episode where they're cheesing or off off of the urine and
recovering. You know, he was in recovery and
he was like a former addict of this stuff.
And right. It just adds more layers, I
think, to a lot of these characters and how it's
portrayed is, as you so astutelyput it, like they're unassuming
characters, but they have this monumental impact right to
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various, you know, various, various things.
Absolutely. Bravo, my friend.
Bravo. Those are my top five.
Maybe the 5th was kind of just pulling it out of my ass.
No, no, you're all right. So what would you say for your
best animated families? So I.
I'm still kind of deciding on that lane.
It's like, it's like for me, it could be like, because I've
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never watched The Simpsons that much, but they're so.
Iconic. But I also want to say like the
Kyle's family, really Kyle's family, because if.
You look at. How Kyle's family deals with
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like Cartman, it's really funny.And the relationship between
Cartman and Kyle's family where it's kind of like Hartman's
like, you know, making fun of him being a Jewish.
And he's the episode where they have the child tracker and he's
like, stop being a stupid Jew. And she's like, what, what,
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what, you know, there's that relationship between the family
in Cartman that's like really prominent in the show because
there's always something he's doing to like, offend the family
or something to, you know, like make fun of the family.
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Like I just said, like the New Jersey episode, it's like
Cartman was like, ha ha, like, you know, you're becoming this
New Jerseyan person. And I put Simpsons.
In there is because. They have that just long
standing time where well you gotto recognize, you got to have, I
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mean, aside from being. Recognizable you also have to,
you know, bring bring to the forefront that each.
Each character brings. Something to the table.
And in a very grounded but heightened way.
You know, it's kind of heightened, but it's not as like
extravagant or as out there as an American dad or a Family Guy
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or a South Park. And when you take Homer, for
example, I can remember this. This was turning the world
upside down. The way he would act with Bart,
like the dad strangles his son, which is like, you can't watch
that, you know? And some of the characters are
drinking beer. They're going to Moe's.
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They're some. Cultural insensitivities that.
A lot of people would kind of turn their noses up and then you
meet people that have like, oh, well, well, wait a minute.
I really identify with that character.
Or I really have a neighbor thatI don't like, whether that's
Flanders, whether that's he has a job that he's not too fond of
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and he's a terrible employee. There's bits and pieces of
heightened reality there, but it's more ground level.
And I think when The Simpsons, barring the ability to be funny,
people can at least sit there and watch that and allow that to
wash over them more so than a Randy Marsh, a Gerald Buflowski
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or a stand from American Death. Yeah, it's easier for.
Them and it's. Also been on for so long, it's
been on for so long that it's just kind of their that security
blanket that The Simpsons has provided everybody with is
pretty remarkable. And especially of late because
they, you know, they killed Marge.
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Yeah, yeah. Which is a big, big jump of wait
a minute, what the fuck just happened exactly?
Exactly. Understanding that this is a
cartoon but and nobody ever really dies, but yeah, I would,
I would, I would. I would definitely agree with
you there on that one. It's it's it's it's a.
Good one. And then I could put like
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arguably, arguably you could putthe Mormon family on the episode
where in South Park where they have a bunch of Mormons where
it's kind of, I mean, I wouldn'teven put that top five, but give
them an honorable mention because they're like this really
friendly, kind of like obliviousfamily, right?
I wouldn't even do you know, do you know what I'm talking about?
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It's it's. I think that would be.
Something pretty funny. Well, the episode that you're
referring to. Is all about the Mormons.
Yes, that's where they have the dum dum, dum, dum.
Dum yes, the whole origin piece and once.
Again, they're taking a very, you know, can be a very hot
button topic, right? Right.
Harder to wash through, harder to like.
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Sit through and be like, how? How are we going to make fun of
this? How?
Are we going to poke fun at this?
And you cannot be, you know, once again, Randy, you can't
beat Randy and Stan on the fact that like, why are they so nice?
I went over there to, I went over there to, to beat the kid
up. And then I'm actually going over
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to, he actually invited me over to his house for dinner.
And then Randy does the same thing where he's like, I'm going
to go kick his ass. And then he goes and he's like,
no, we're actually having dinnerwith him on Friday and says
that's the same thing that happened to me.
And so I would definitely give them an honorable mention as far
as like what they bring to it. And once again, it's the
creative juices that just flow between Matt and Trey to allow
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how do we make fun of this? But how do we make this somewhat
A serviceable joke? So we're not offending
everybody, but we're still making fun of it.
Now how much of the like relationship?
Of the producers and the animators would have in making a
good family. Like what would make a good
animated family? If you can make your own, how
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would you want it? How would you create it?
Like a question question. I think it would just kind of
bar, you know, you have to borrow various elements of what
has already existed. I mean, you got Hank Hill from
King of the Hill, which is, you know, the whole backdrop of it
is a working class family. And then you have, you know,
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various characters that maybe have deserved like spin off type
material on the Cleveland Show. And then you get most of these
characters that just slowly findtheir voices as everything
progresses because the content would suggest that it takes on a
life of its own. And taking on a life of its own.
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You understand that, OK, the show was about XY and Z, but now
it's completely about something different.
So you almost need to have a utilitarian amount of kids or
amount of parents in this familythat can go either which way.
Because this is animation. And you can get away with a lot
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more through an animated lens than a realistic lens.
And when you deal with people that for whatever reason may
find it offensive, may find it rude or hurtful, you can always
have the guiding light over likea North star, if you will, that
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this is a cartoon. And understanding that this is a
cartoon, each character kind of needs to have, you know, their
little quirk, their little part of their personality.
And it needs to be a very realized personality before you
can slowly start amplifying everything.
Right? I've really.
I've really. Liked that idea because in like
the American dad, you have the dad and then you have like the
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hippie and then you have the alien and then you have the mom,
right? That's kind of like the, they
all have their own unique type of thing.
And especially with having a hippie daughter and like, which
seems to be a very conservative dad, it's kind of like, you
know, there's going to be, there's going to be conflict.
But that's what. Makes it a good family.
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Same with. Like Family Guy.
You get the relationship betweenBrian and Stewie.
You also have the relationship between all of them and Meg.
Or makes kind of just this punching back for everyone, and
that's what makes it really goodtoo.
And that wasn't always the case,though that was.
That's what I'm talking about when you deal with like.
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When you deal with. Creating a character and
creating a, you know, markup of a good family, you need to have
your like, centerpiece. You need to have something that
allows the audience to be anchored in right?
And then slowly you can ramp up and build to what it is that
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you're trying to convey. And what you're trying to convey
might be something comical, might be something crude, might
be something offensive. But it's the way it has to be
navigated, you know? And for some people, it doesn't
work. For a lot of people, it doesn't
work. There's many, many, many things
out there that just do not resonate with people.
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People will not be OK with it. People will be offended by it.
People will be upset by it. And what makes a good family is
understanding that, yeah, this is a family, but it's not family
with a capital F. You know, you can take FS for
family, for example, one with Bill Burr, which is essentially
an amalgamation of his jokes andhis father and his mind wrapped
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up in a beautiful, offensive, hilarious box of the nuclear
family, right? And that's what makes it funny.
That's what makes it good. But it's the.
Creativity that. Flows right right, but you also
have to understand that some of the stuff is kind of like
recycled over and over and over and over and over again.
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But then you also get like, you know, Rick and Morty, the big,
the big selling point behind Rick and Morty is it's not even
the dad, it's the grandpa, you know, and they touch on that
too, that it's one extreme character in this fantastical,
awful, terrifying, multi dimensional world.
And you have, you have Morty, you have summer, you have Beth
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and you have Jerry. OK, two parents, two kids.
And then you have a grandfather that is awful.
He's a maniac, he's a lunatic. And he's the selling point in
this very grounded, very predictable average family.
And then it just the the doors come off and then you're in
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multiple dimensions and then you're dealing with creatures,
you're dealing with aliens, you're dealing with the massive
amount of things that make that show work right.
And I really like how you. Said something about like how
some of these people reuse stuffover and over and over and I
really think that was a big factor in kind of my opinion,
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the fall off of Family Guy, right?
I feel like lots of their jokes always came from the same type
of like structured joke where they have they, they will have a
conversation, it will go to likea another scene where they call
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like a like a side cut or it's acutaway cutaway and then.
They'll go away. From the cutaway back to their
conversation. And it was like that over, over
and over and over. And they kind of reused that and
saying like, that's what makes South Park unique because they
have different ways of making these jokes.
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And it's very like, unique in the way how they do it.
It's not redundant. Yes, it's not redundant.
Yes, we will go into more depth with South Park, definitely,
because that's that warrant thatwarrants another episode for
sure. Do you have any other rankings
off the top of your head? Because you have best cartoon
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too, I know. We talked about that like if you
could pick like a best cartoon, yeah, I could say that.
And that would for me. Obviously would be South Park.
OK. Why do you think South?
Park for you just takes the cakeabove, you know The Simpsons
above Family Guy, because bear in mind, you are working your
way through a lot of the stuff that you're still watching a lot
of it, you're still working yourway through it.
Not a lot of this I've seen so. There's a lot of, I mean, I'm
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more experienced, but Family Guyin South Park, that's not a lot.
But I'm working through doing The Simpsons right now.
Like I just started early versions of The Simpsons and
mixing some of the best, yeah. That's good, but.
That makes it harder to make AI guess an opinion of all these
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shows because you haven't quite seen everything.
And that's why I put South Park at the front, because I've seen
a lot of South Park and it's given me a lot of the, you know,
funniest. It's more.
It's it's more. Funny to me, right?
I get a good laugh at it. I don't care if it offends me.
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Like if you say something about,I don't know, something that
offends me, I'm like, I don't care.
I know it's a joke. And I think that's what makes it
good for me is because they don't care about offending
people. They only think about the joke.
And I think if you can put your opinions aside and just laugh at
what they did, that's what makesit, I think, better than a lot
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of people. And they're more willing to make
a bigger step in their episodes to make something more
egregious, more intense than anyone else.
That's what compared to like Family Guy, I don't think
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they're willing to do something as big as, you know, 911 jokes
having planes flown at each other and exploding up these New
Jersey and people. Family Guy has a good jokes, but
I don't think they'd ever do something that you know, Yeah,
they both offends that. Group of people that.
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Much. And it's interesting that you
say that. And that's one thing that I
definitely, I think is a good place to wrap this episode up
on. And the best note about that is
having the. Pieces of both.
Shows and the pieces of both shows being very appropriate is
there's a very famous South Parkepisode I think it's.
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A2 Part. Maybe a three is the cartoon
wars where they are going to getFamily Guy taken off the air,
right, right. But then you also have Kyle, who
loves the show, Family Guy, right?
And then you have the main character.
In Cartman. Who is essentially Matt and Trey
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speaking to us, the viewer, thatwe're nothing like Family Guy.
It's interchangeable jokes. It's interchangeable.
We're not redundant. We're not repetitive.
But. They're not.
Hacking it. And they're not slashing a
Family Guy. They're making creative puns
about how could someone do something so offensive?
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Exactly how could someone do something so egregious?
And it's like, well, it's the only show that doesn't care who
they feel. And exactly.
But that's that's what makes it.Good.
Exactly. They just don't care and that
makes for a better episode because you can take all sides
and just hit them. Like hit all sides.
You'd be like Jews, Christians, Mormons, all kinds of areas,
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especially religion. Like they have multiple religion
videos and people too, like celebrities, Margaret Thatcher,
all kinds of all kinds of people.
They just don't care. That's what I really like about
it and that's what makes it and personally, the number one adult
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film or adult, not adult, not quite like that.
Not quite like that, but you definitely have the the adult,
you know, animation standard like the high, high, high table
high standard for sure. And I would.
I would definitely agree with you there.
That their ability. To.
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We're not just. Going to go after one group.
We're not just going to go afterone person.
We're not going to go after one event.
We're going to go for all of it.Exactly.
Exactly. Yeah.
So I think what we should do. Is we got to get you back here
in the studio for a dedicated South Park.
What we'll do is we'll call this, we'll call this episode
Animation Rankings with Zach. Part 1, Part 1, Part 1.
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Alright, OK, I'll have you back for Part 2 for sure.
We'll come back for Part 2. I'll come back anytime.
Alright, great time here. Awesome man.
Especially for my first time, I had a good time talking about
this. Absolutely.
Yeah. Yeah.
You have anybody? You want to shout out before we
get out of here? No, not right now.
No, no. Alright, Zach, I'll tell you
what, man. We're going to have you back for
Part 2. We're going to dedicate this
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one, I believe we're gonna dedicate the Part 2 to South
Park. And I know you got a bunch of
episodes that you watched, a bunch of ones that resonated
with you. We're gonna dive into all that,
OK for Part 2, Right? Right.
Alright. Alright, my man.
We'll see you in a bit. Alright, boss.
Thank you. Hey for everybody.
Else out there. Thank you so much for making
this platform a part of your day.
Thank you so much for making this podcast a part of your day.
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