TCOE!#99 OC & The Analyst: A Sports Conversation!

To bring Season One to a close and send us off in to the sunset, OC finally sits down with the Analyst a very special episode!! Emotions, Legacy, Grit, Passion and the love for all things sports is talked about!! Thanks for listening!! Also quick update since Monday will have two new episodes no episode this Wednesday however next week will be episode 100 and 101!

Episode Transcript

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Welcome back everybody to another episode of the Court of
Entertainment and Audio only podcast available on Apple and
available on Spotify every Monday and every Wednesday.
And today is Monday. It is a special Monday because I
have a brand new voice, a brand new voice, a strong voice,
strong emotional voice. There's actual residence in what

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this man has to say. And I can think of nobody better
to help wrap up Season 1. Wrap this up in a very neat and
tight little bow of all the people you've heard from, all
the people you've heard from forthe past year, all different
people from all walks of life. And this gentleman right here is

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going to be the one to take all of this home, all right?
And it's going to be released right as this NFL season kicks
off. It's a new voice, a new person
with a powerful, powerful perspective on sports, all
things sports, entertainment. And he goes by the analyst.
What's going on, boss? How are you, man?

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Good. How are you?
Doing great, man. So sports.
Sports is something that brings people together.
Sports is something that brings families together.
Generations of people, cities legitimately are on their backs.
They're on the shoulders. It is defined many, many

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decades, decades of people, college baseball, foreign
countries, international sports.For you, my friend, where does
sports resonate with you? Because we've talked away from
the studio. It's somewhat of a piece of you
and who you are. Would you mind elaborating on

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that? Where did it start?
So that it all really started with.
Like you just said, family, you know, growing up with, with my
dad, he, he worked, you know, hewould go in at 7:00 in the
morning, get home at like 11. But Sundays was really special
because that was the day that I got to just sit down with my dad

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and we would talk. But sports was just on in the
background. It was, you know, we'd wake up
10:00 AM, we'd have our breakfast and then football
would just be on or anytime we had a conversation, it'd be, you
know, what do you think of this soccer move or, you know, just

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little things like that. It's it's kind of like the
foundation of me and my dad's relationship.
That's why it's like so. Pure to me and even with my
sister, because me and my sisterwe, we bump heads a lot, but if
it, if the Nuggets are playing, you know, or something's going

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on with the Nuggets, me and her have one of the best
conversations. So it just kind of like ties our
family together. And so that's to me, that's why
I'm so deep into sports. It's, it's a point of
conversation with pretty much anyone that I come across so.

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Do you think it resonates on a deeper level of like an
emotional like that emotional lifeline a little bit?
Well, definitely resonates back to it like a simpler time.
Definitely it's it's kind of just an escape because you have
no control. You're literally seeing grown
men play. But it just kind of you escape

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from the real world. You're just in this little
universe, you know, you're passionate about this you you're
rooting for something that you have no control over.
And to me, that's how life is. Sometimes you can Give your
opinion, you can give, you know,advice or whatever, but

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sometimes you just don't have that control and you just kind
of have to accept it for what itis.
So, you know, like your team loses, there's nothing you can
do about it. You know, you just kind of have
to look forward to next weekend and see how it goes.
So there's a lot of emotional stuff attached to it, so.

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It's a special thing, it is. That sounds very special because
what you're describing is similar to how I grew up, right?
It's similar to how I grew up inthe sense that I had very little
in common, very little in commonwith a lot of people around me,
right? And when you have very little in

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common, you look for things to like resonate, right?
You want to, OK, well, that person has a cool bike, right?
Well then I should have a cool bike.
That's just not going to happen.Or you want your parents
approval or you want to see yourparents in another light.
It's like we all have that moment of clarity when we
realize that maybe our parents are making this shit up as they

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go and maybe they don't really know as much as we think that
they do. But the emotional stability and
that and that common ground thatresonates so deeply when you're
excited about something that your parents are excited about
and that emotional inception continues to grow.
And for my father and I was movies.

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All it was was movies. I mean, we would spend all day
at the theater. We'd go at like 8:00 AM and we
would not leave till sometimes 2:00 AM the next day, OK, all
day spending time with movies. It didn't matter what was going
on outside, how much he had to drink, whether he liked me,
whether he hated me, doesn't matter.
That day was exactly pure. That's essentially the whole

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nature behind what I do. What I do is because it's fun.
It's fun. It's the one connection that we
all have and that we all share. And you can turn off whatever
noise is going on inside of the real world and you just exist
right then and there. Whether it's the thrill factor
that you don't know what's goingto happen, whether you're not in
control of it, or you can just allow yourself an escape.

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You know, you can just kind of turn everything off for a little
bit more of a grounded, like church element, the kind of
vibe. Would you agree with that?
Yeah, it's funny. I mean, I tell all my friends
it's, you know, Sundays because sometimes they'll give me a hard
time. They're like, well, we can do
stuff on a Sunday, You just haveto sacrifice it.
And it's like my fiance actually, she calls it because I

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just go down to my basement and I throw on, you know, Sunday red
zone, Sunday ticket. Unless, you know, my Buccaneers
are playing, then they're the only ones on the screen.
But she says that's my sanctuary.
That's Church Sunday for me, 'cause it's, I will just go
downstairs. And that's just my decompressor

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for, you know, the week, the week that's coming.
And I understand it from my dad's point of view, why
sometimes he just didn't want totalk.
He just wanted to watch, you know, the games.
It's 'cause you know Monday. Through Saturday he was he was a
waiter and so. He would go in in the morning,
get off at around like 334. He would take, you know, an hour

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nap. And then by the time dinner came
for the restaurant, he had to bethere at 5:00.
And he would be there. The rest of the day, so that's,
you know, he's tired. Right.
And. So that's why.
I understood, and I understand it even more now that I'm grown,
how that was just his escape andhis way to just.

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Relax. And that messed up the way that
that like hits you like a ton ofbricks a little bit because
there's no how to manual. There's no manual on when that
moment is going to drop or when that other shoe is going to
drop. It's just you kind of grow and
go and go and go. And then before you know it,
you're like, oh, fuck, I'm tired.
I'm fucking tired. I'm just going to watch TV,

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watch the game, watch a movie orsomething.
And then that's your escape. So I want to talk a little bit
more about obviously we know where it came from.
I can I can relate tenfold. Is it always football if you had
to pick like that, is that your ground?
Is that like your anchor? It's what I understand a lot

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more. OK, but I try to, I, I mean, I
watch tennis, you know, I watch a whole bunch of different
sports. It's not just football to me.
It's just there's that emotionalattachment to football just
because, like I was saying, my dad was a waiter.

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He had this guy that would always go.
He would serve. He had.
Season tickets to the Broncos. And so sometimes, you know,
because we weren't able to take big vacations, extravagant
vacations or anything like that.So our, our vacations were

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coming up to the Bronco Stadium.So we, I'm from Santa Fe, so
it's like a six hour drive. We would wake up at like 3:00 in
the morning, drive up before thegame.
You know, we'd be a little bit down 25 and we'd be changing in
the car and we'd sit through thegame.
Once the game ended, we would drive all the way back to Santa

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Fe. So it was like a day trip, but
that was we would just like escape.
For the day. And so that's why I relate a
little bit more to that because it was, you know, like when we
were. All together as a family.
So. But.
I'll try to find, you know, other sports.

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Me and my brother are big into F1.
OK. He is the one that actually got
me into F1. Really.
It was, yeah. I would give him, you know, a
hard time for it. I didn't understand it.
But then I can't pinpoint exactly when he he just started
talking about it and not gained interest on it.

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And then it just kind of like. Drew this little fire.
And now it's that's something. We talk about.
You know, you see our messages, it's just F1 and my brother's a
really close off person. He doesn't open up to anyone
really. So just the fact that we can
have that conversation is prettyamazing.

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I mentioned my sister, you know,we bump heads, but with her it's
basketball. So you know the Nuggets, that's
how. I I, to me, it's just I feel
like sports is I that's how I connect with people, which is
weird, but. No, not at all.
It's like you said, like some people.

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It's, it's a culture, you know, and.
Well, it's, it's it's a generational thing, yeah.
And so. You tell me the Mannings aren't
exactly the most like that is nuts.
It's got to be something with a sperm, right?
Something. I mean, that's ridiculous.
Yeah, it's. How many of them?
And weirdly, they're all good atit, yeah.

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I mean, his nephew's just comingup too.
Yeah, no shit. It's, it's really uncomfortable,
isn't it? Really like to see what he's
going to do, yeah. But it's it's just weird.
It's just weird on a like an intellectual level.
Like you got to study them. There's got to be something
unique to that. Or like the Will or the Venus
and Serena, you know, same thing, like 2 Sisters.

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That good, that strong, right? Yeah, real sidestep here.
You watch enough sports. You watch enough sports so you
wouldn't understand the difference between the natural
talent and the hard work, correct.
When somebody is very good at a sport, can you identify whether

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it's hard work or naturally talented?
For two reasons. I could learn guitar, right?
I could learn it 6 1/2 hours every single day.
But if I have to learn and work for six hours every single day
and it's still not resonating, Ican get better, but I'm not in

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natural. See the difference there?
Who would you say resonates on those levels of like, I'm going
to go above and beyond and work hard a la like Kobe Bryant,
right, Versus the genetic specimen that is Jokic or that
is a Shaquille O'Neal? Where's the difference there?

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Do you ever notice various things like that?
You've watched enough sports. Yeah, I mean IA good example
right now is LeBron James and his son Bronnie James.
You know, LeBron has that raw talent.
He is hated, but call it how it is.
He's he's a talented human beingand he takes care of himself.
You know, he pours millions of dollars into his body in the

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offseason. But you know, to come out of
high school and just become thisbig face of the NBA after, you
know, Kobe, Jordan, these, thesedifferent players, it takes a
lot, you know, just to put that on your shoulders.
But you see, you know, his son, he's good, but he's not that

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generational like talent that I would say is.
His father. Exactly.
But he puts in the hard work andyou know, he's in the NBA, but
it's not that like raw talent. So there's always I, I do think
there's, there's a difference with like you have this talent,

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but it's like, how are you goingto use it?
And are you going to put in thatwork, that hard work to keep you
there? Because you can have the talent,
but if you're just lazy? It's not going to get you
anywhere. Or and then the other piece of
that, like the other third side of that would be a Michael
Jordan. So I remember Jordan, I remember
the flu game. I remember all of that.

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And I remember when Rodman, whenPippen, when everybody came in
to elevate his game, because yousaw two different versions,
right? The college version, the early
days NBA version, and then the championship version.
Those are three very, very, very, very different Jordans,
right? But the talent was there, the

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hard work was there, and then the elevation of the game was
there. But this was also at a time when
nobody was doing that, when nobody was doing it.
You're kind of watching like painter paint something
differently, you know, And when you see that like contribution
to elevate a a game, to elevate a team, then you get somebody
like a Patrick Mahomes. Then you get somebody like a Tom

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Brady or a Peyton Manning. You know, when you have people
that strategically have a responsibility and you can do
your job perfect six ways to Sunday.
But if it doesn't matter for thepeople in front of you, it
doesn't work. And is that what you're talking
about as far as, like, teamwork and, like, stuff that you have
no control over and you just watch the best people at their

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craft try to, like, accomplish their goal?
Is that where that, like, affection and love comes from?
Yeah. It's, it's just that escape, you
know, it's, I know there's nothing I can do to control
that, but it's like you're saying you can.
Look at Patrick Mahomes and whathe's doing to change the game.

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You know, you see a lot of younger kids that are playing
football how he's changing the style of play.
It's like Steph Curry with with basketball.
You know, the three-point just became it before it was non
existent really. You know, you had your good
shooters. But now, and I see it with my
younger nephew, all all kids care to shoot is threes.

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They don't care about the post game.
They don't care about like a simple layup.
They don't care about, you know,the mid range jump shot.
It's how many threes can I Jack up?
And to me that's like, it's coolseeing each person's like
craftsmanship and seeing what can this person do, you know,
like Saquon Barkley, his he's changing.

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I mean, he took a bet on himself.
Everyone kept saying, you know, the running back position is
dead and he's proved that it's not, you know, because they
don't want to pay him. And that's why he left the
Giants, because they're like, well, no, like this other talent
will come in. But it's what I'm saying.
It's like you have a raw talent and he uses it.

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He, he knows what he has and he took that bet on himself and he
created, you know, this positionto be great again.
Because you see running backs this past offseason that got
paid when before it was like, well, we can throw you like a
one year, six $7 million contract.

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But now they're actually getting, you know, their two
years, 2325. So it's like redefining that
rule. Yes, but it's thanks to, you
know, Saquon just really changedthat.
Right, like setting an example of or setting a bar of what this
actually could be. Exactly, and it's what I'm

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trying to like really put it into words.
I get it. I'm sure everyone listening to
this can understand what you're saying too.
For sure. It's just that's like my, my
real big affection to it. It's like you can see this
individual just change. I mean, the landscape of things.

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And to me, it's, I get lost in that world, you know, it's.
You seem pretty captivated on the fact that one man or woman
could redefine an entire, you know, position, right?
And then that one position can have a ripple effect that not
only changes thousands of people, but we're talking
cities, countries, even. You go to any place in this

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world and Mike Tyson shows up. They know who Mike Tyson is.
Now you're a little, I mean, I don't remember if you've ever
watching Tyson in his prime, butI do.
And I can tell you that you could not go anywhere.
Cousins in Europe, cousins in Israel that are like, we know
exactly who Mike Tyson is because it's just redefining
something on that level. And that ripple effect is just

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so vast, you know? And this isn't like an Olympic
athlete, like a Michael Phelps, where you're just kind of like
boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, racking up medals here and
there. But you mentioned Steph Curry,
and Steph Curry is a fascinatingindividual to me.
He's fascinating because it is the element of hard work and raw
talent and intellectual talent in which I will never be able to

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get past XY and Z to get to the executed layup, a dunk, what
have you. So what do I need to do?
I can't. I can't grow, So what do I need
to do? I'm going to redefine this
position. And not only am I going to
redefine it, I'm going to shatter the entire fucking thing
and rebuild it the way I think it could be done.

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And before you know it, he's theone person that is
systematically carrying that team, and it's built off of the
back of what he put on himself, kind of gambling on himself.
And then before you know it, here comes Jokic and redefining
the center position and he moves.
Like, he's about the size of Steph Curry, but he's almost
like he's like almost 75. And what's?

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What's crazy with him is he doesn't have that like fire, I
don't believe. As far as what?
He love. He likes playing basketball.
He doesn't love it. Really.
You don't think so? No.
Jokic. I don't think so.
Really. I mean, he's.
Also, there's there's that one interview where they were asking

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him if he was excited to be backand he was just like, you know,
no, he's like who loves their job at the end of the day, like
this is my job. But it's like, I I think if he
had, I'm not saying he doesn't love it completely right, right.
But I'm saying if he had, you know, that passion like Steph

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Curry probably had, did I think he would be an even greater
basketball. Player.
Fascinating. See, I've always equated his
reactions to why they call him the Joker.
Right, because he's always joking around with people and
we've seen him in the media. The only time I've ever seen his

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eyes perk up is when someone pronounces his name right and
then he instantly perks up is tosee who said that.
Or his horses. Yeah, exactly.
Or exactly, Which is fun becauseyou look at how he maneuvers and
plays. And then you have an interview
with Crusoe of like, OK, Caruso,just for perspective sake, He's

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my height, OK? He looked like a child next to
Yokich. And they asked him like, what
was that like? What was it like guarding him?
What was it like guarding him? Did you see that interview?
Oh, my goodness. It is.
It is really unsettling to watchbecause he literally sits there
and says he doesn't talk, he doesn't shit talk, he doesn't
trash talk, he doesn't throw elbows, he doesn't maneuver, he

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doesn't cheap shot. He's just a silent like force of
nature. He's just there to do his job is
pretty much what he, from everything I've seen, that's
that's how he views, you know, the NBA.
See, I would think that there's a little bit more to it from my
perspective, just because that he's from a place that was

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divvied up in a massive like civil war, you know, And Serbia,
whether you're talking about like Luca Giannis, women, Yama,
these international players, we have to forget that like peel
back the frame a little bit and that yoke is just from a place
where they drop bombs or basketball is there.

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You talk about an escape of like, oh, I don't want to get
bombed. I don't want to get shot.
You know, in this violent revolution that happened where
condensing 6 provinces into two,in this massive civil war, all
they had was basketball. And when I talk about like
countries love him, like there'sstadiums, buildings, like that's

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got to be, that's got to be lovethough, right?
Like he's got to understand thathow much his people care about
him and how much they mean to him.
I think he cares about his country.
I I think. And basketball is the way he
uses that. It could be, but you know, I
think it was last year when the Olympics were last year, right?

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That's correct. And I think that's the most
emotion I've ever seen him play with.
But. It's.
Because his country was on the line.
And to me, I feel like if he played that same way with the
Nuggets, he would be even greater.
I'm not saying he's not great now, I think.
He's, you know. He's the best player in the NBA

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right now, whether people want to give him that credit or not.
And you know, you get your voterfatigue, but I think he should
have been a back-to-back to backMVP.
Oh, absolutely. But I think if he just played
with that emotion attached to it, I think he would be one of
the most amazing players to like.

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Even more amazing on what he says, do you think it has
anything to do with his brother?Because his brother is a kind of
the blueprint of what, you know,sequentially.
Hey, try this, don't do that. Maybe try this.
Maybe, maybe don't do that so much.
It could be. I mean, he's pretty much, he's
always said he gives credit to his brothers for saving him and

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they kept him out of trouble. But I wouldn't, I'm not too
informed on all that to really have a have a say in it.
It's it's a fascinating story and for everybody out there
listening, if you ever really want to dive into the Yokich
family and his brothers playing basketball and their time in the
sun and how they've guided theirlittle brother, it's a very,

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very fascinating story. I mean, we're talking like
generational, you know, people and families, if you will.
That dynamic is fascinating. It was a story for another time.
But so you got the NBA got F1 ofthe NFL.
Did that wide net of security and relevance of like Sunday,

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did that ever expand? You said like tennis and and
golf and all these other sports there did it, Does it kind of
stay localized to those 3? No, it, I mean, I grew up
playing soccer so I was, I was always big on soccer.
You know, baseball, I started getting into it more in like

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20/17/2018. You know, that's, that's when my
Marlins are doing well. And then, you know, Jeter came
and blew that whole team up. But that's when I really started
getting more into, you know, baseball.
So it's just kind of slowly keptlike growing and I, I love

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knowledge and just something about sports.
It just like connects to me. So like the more I know about
certain things, it's like the better for me.
I wouldn't be able to explain toyou why it's just.
Well, you're talking about this now.
Thing is you're talking about this and you're explaining it,

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but what you don't understand isthat there are hundreds and
hundreds of people listening to this now and they're like, Oh my
God, I get it. I I totally get it now.
It may not be sports, it could be, it could, you could be a
passionate gardener, you could be a passionate painter and you
can't explain it. And internally, you might not

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want to because it is so intimate and personal, but
people are listening to this. And it's like, I got it.
I know exactly what he's talkingabout.
And, you know, when it comes to sports, that's the beauty of it,
you know, because the knowledge is ever expanding.
You learn about one particular player, 11 league or one great
decade, and before you know it, you're just down a rabbit hole

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of like, OK, well, where did it come from?
Yeah. How did this start?
No, exactly. That's that's how I am
sometimes. I'll see.
You know, lately I've been into,you know, players that were
great and then just randomly dropped off, you know, the face
of the Earth. Really.
I forget his name. He played with The Mavericks.

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Was it Delonte West? OK, what was the what was the
story? What was the?
Downfall, you know, he was just he was a really good, he wasn't
like a star or anything, but he was a really good player.
And you know, he he just slowly like bad money management, bad

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everything. And you know, video surfaced of
him just being homeless outside of gas stations asking, you
know, for money and for food andstuff.
And it's, it's just crazy to seehow they're you, you come from
like nothing and then you make all this money, but there's no

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one there teaching you how to handle that.
You know, you don't have, it's like, here's 10 million.
You can do what you want with it.
Some people are responsible and you know, they get their
financial advisors, they, they plan it.
But some this is life changing money that has never they've

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never even thought of or dreamedof.
So they go and you know, drop 3,000,000 on a house, they go
buy all these luxury cars right And next the.
Entourages is a big thing. The friends are in charge of the
money. Exactly and.
Family's in charge of the money.Next thing you know is there's
there's nothing. And all those people that were

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behind you, like they're gone. Yeah, money changes people.
So and when you get essentially,you're essentially paid.
I've always said this, You're essentially getting paid to be
at recess. You get paid at King's ransom to
play a kids game, which is very unique to think about.
What exactly is your job? You're getting paid to be in the
best shape of your life. You're getting paid to work

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very, very hard, like 7 days outof the week, right?
Let's be fair, You have a coupledays off.
Those aren't off days. You're stretching, you're
getting your meds and you're getting all the performance
enhancements that you may need. Not whether legal, ethical, what
have you, but you're still doingstuff.
And then come Sunday, come Friday, Thursday, Monday, it's

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game time. It's ready to go.
Do you think that it is it all fascinating that you have like a
Mike Tyson or an Elvis Presley that kicked open doorways and
did all of the wrong things justas a cautionary tale so nobody
would ever do those ever again? I don't know.

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That's a tough one, really. Yeah.
Because if you think about it like strategically, the steps
that those two individuals took,wow, everybody does the exact
opposite of everything that theyhad done up until that point,
kicking open all those bad doorways, doing all those bad
directions. And now you have people to your,
to your point, they're putting money into their bodies.

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They get the right financial advice that they need.
And before you know it, you havea long lasting career and then
you're remembered longer. But let's be fair, Jokis doesn't
want to be remembered. I'll agree with you on that.
And he'll just disappear on and with his horses and his farm.
But the players that are still around, like a Manning or a Tom
Brady, you know, they want to bewithin that like sphere, still

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within that area. But they have those long lasting
careers because they surround themselves with good people.
But weirdly, all those good people show up whenever the
money's around. Yeah, but I think if you're
smart about it, you don't, You, you come to learn who the true
people around you will be. And you can like weed people

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out. You know, I've, I think I've
done that throughout my life. You know, if you were to ask me
5-6 years ago like who my best friends were, I would have a
totally different answer. For you, who's really got your
back? But out of those 5-6 people, you
know, there's three that are still standing.

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So you kind of learn yourself tolike weed those people out.
And it's just, if you have your intuition, it'll you're the
answer is right there in front of you, right, right.
You know, so Tom Brady is a really smart person.
So I would think I would like tosay that he knows, you know,

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this person is just trying to take advantage of me.
Why would I let him in or her, You know, And yeah, it's it's
interesting how, you know, some athletes just protect themselves
and they know what's good and bad for themselves.
And others are just, you know, they soak everything in and they

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want to be on top of the world, but you're only going to be
there for, you know, a brief period of time if you're not
smart about it, so. When you talk about like that,
that holiest of of days, that's like your church and then you,
you build up to it and you have the players like you mentioned
Curry, Saquon Barkley and talkeda little bit about Jokic.

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When it comes to like experiencing like that final
like piece of it before you watch the game, someone like
yourself that's really has your ear to the ground on this sort
of thing. Do you follow a lot of these
players? Like, I mean, obviously it's
kind of not that complicated to follow like an F1 driver because
they are the face slash person. Cause unlike stock drag or

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ground up or distance F1, you can hear everything.
You can hear the pit crews, you can hear the the drivers, you
can hear the condescension, the sarcasm, the humor.
And then you have the very Jedi like Lewis Hamilton.
That's not the same as Max and not the same as any of those

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other teams. All right.
How does that resonate with you for someone that loves this so
whole? Purely because for me, it's
weird because I remember a time when sports were not derived by
social media. And I remember a time when if
you were lucky, you saw a clip of like college.

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Now you got Dionne, Dwayne Johnson, Pat McAfee, first aid.
First things first, everybody istalking about college.
How does that resonate with you kind of being brought up within
that culture of sports and now it's just everywhere?
It's it's crazy. I mean, the way I kept up with
it when I was, you know, youngerwas through magazines.

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I don't know if you remember theSlam slam magazine I made my
parents, you know, get me a subscription of that.
So that's how I kept up with, you know, basketball.
Seeing it now, though, the way it's like grown and to see how
everyone has a different take. Everyone can will have their own

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opinion. It's like you're saying you have
all these different shows, like first take Pat McAfee.
But to me, I like to, I, I, I'lllisten to them because it's, you
know, they give me a little bit of insight, their point of view
from everything. And it just allows me to keep up
with, you know, different sports.
I love Stephen A Smith. I think he's.

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Really hilarious. Stephen A guy, huh?
I just think he's hilarious and he just plays devil's advocate.
You know he will when he's. Rude and he gets on his phone on
live TV. Yeah, but he he gets people
talking. Of course you know he will.
He'll push your buttons and it that's like the entertainment of

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of sports. Oh, absolutely.
You know, there's always a heel,there's always a good guy,
there's always a bad guy, there's always somebody on the
week, you know, whether that's around the horn, around the
bend. My personal favorite would be
First things first. I really like First things first
a lot. Wilde, Broussard and Wright are
amazing. Colin Hayward's always a
consistent one. I've watched him for decades.

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And then you get the stinking truth with Mark Schlereth and
you get the facility speak and afew others that kind of like
coast in and out when it comes to this perspective of, like,
all their talking heads on Monday, they'll say something
that contradicts them on Thursday.

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Do you ever find yourself just like, if I really want to be
passionate about this or know more about this, I'll just watch
them, The players, do you ever follow any of them or, like,
really, really closely? Or was that something that was
just like, yeah, this is kind ofweird?
No, I, I mean, I have my favorite players that'll, you
know, follow I think on my phone, ESPN, I think I follow
like 100 plus athletes. And there's ever like, kick you

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in the balls and just think like, these are like legitimate
people that are living their lives like online every day.
What are they eating? And at the end of the day, it's
like, oh, I should make that. Like, I'm not going to fucking
make something like that. I'm not like to that extent.
I'm more like, I'll follow them on like ESPN and, you know, I
get alerts from them, you know, and that's how I kind of keep

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up. I'm I don't care much for their
social life. Really.
No, not really. You're not thinking like, oh, I
wonder what Yokich You did say Yokich likes the horses.
So there is something about the social life that's.
But they've they've talked aboutit and it's just when you get to
learn, you know, you study the the player you learned, you know

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about them. But it to me it's not, you know,
like you were saying, Lewis Hamilton, I think he he's a big
one that I followed even to thisday, you know, he but it's
because of all he's done. You know, it aside from the
sport, he's this big fashion guy.
I. Just want to be friends with

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him. So, yeah, yeah.
You know what I mean? It's so weird, isn't it?
It is. How are you that fucking calm
hitting a turn at 210 miles an hour?
Yeah, and no emotion. Well, what's crazy is he just
had a race and then a few days later he was at the Met Gala.
Uh huh. You know.
As as one does. Yeah, so nonchalant, you know,

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walking the red carpet with right.
So there is, you know, there is certain athletes that I will
follow like that, but others I don't.
I like them. I like their, like I said
earlier, their craftsmanship. So I like to keep up with like
their sets, just little things like that.

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But personal side, I, my mom gives me a hard time because
sometimes we'll be out, you know, we go to Vegas a lot or we
do when we're out on trips. Sometimes I'll recognize, you
know, an athlete and I'm like, oh, that's so and so.
And she's like, go take a picture and this.
And then I'm like, no. And she's like, why?
And I was like, because he's thesame like as us, like he's still

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just a normal human being. And that to me, I'm I'm not that
crazy about. Nobody.
Nobody would ever get you there.Come on.
There's got to be 1. There's got to be one that you
just immediately like, fanboy out of.
Like, are you out of your fucking mind?
Ronaldo. OK, yeah, that you're running
over to get a picture. I wouldn't be like screaming no,

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but. Maybe you throw an elbow to get
over. He was walking by.
I would be like can I get a picture?
There you go. See, that's that's the true
nature behind it. Because it is rather odd that
most of these athletes now eclipse celebrities.
You know, the people that are inmovies.
Like more people know. It baffles me and I'd be willing

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to bet that this is a thing. It baffles me that more people
know who Lewis Hamilton is then who know who Steven Spielberg
is. Yeah.
That is crazy to me. That is a crazy, crazy stat.
But it's 110%. I guarantee you it's 100%
accurate. Hold up a picture of both
people. Like, who is this?
OK, no, OK, who is this? And then they would

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instantaneously know when you'rein this space, when you're in
this, like, closed off from the world and you're just enjoying,
you know, sports and you're justkind of going down this rabbit
hole. And when you're just letting
everything kind of like, wash over you.
You did mention that the Bucks are your team.
Can I ask why? Growing up in New Mexico,

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everyone there's either a Cowboys, Broncos and you get the
Raiders. So I don't like being like
everyone else. And I remember it was actually
3rd grade. We were in my teacher, Mr.

(40:19):
Lopez, and we were me and a group of kids.
We were talking about, you know,football teams.
And, you know, we went around the table we're and they're
like, who's your favorite football team?
And I was kind of like stuck. But then I remember, you know,

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the Pirates. And at that time I wasn't too
familiar with team names or anything like that.
So I was like the Pirates and everyone just kind of like,
looked at me, you know, and they're like, that's a baseball
team. And I was like, no, like, you
know, they have the pirate ship and everything.

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And I remember I kind of just, they made fun of me because I
had no idea, you know, of any football teams.
And so I just, you know, went tothe library and then just kind
of learned about because they used to have like those books.
You know. Like those NFL books and I was

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just reading through them and I was like, yeah, it's, it's the
Buccaneers. You know, it, it was a weird way
to get to it. And then they ended up playing
the Broncos. And my sister, she's a big
Broncos fan. And we ended up making a bet.
And so that's, that's how the Buccaneers came to because it

(41:47):
was just, you know, my sister, Iended up beating my sister
because I ended up beating the Broncos.
And then I just didn't want to look like a fool.
Like, you know, they asked me the next week, like, who's your
team? And, you know, I changed it
again. So I was like, I kind of stuck
with with the Buccaneers. And then sure enough that that

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year they won the Super Bowl, so.
So emotional stakes, so very emotional pieces, like kind of
like concrete memories. They're like, well, yeah, now I
have to kind of go with this, right?
Yeah, you just kind of have to roll with it.
So I bet you were happier than apig and shit when Tom Brady and
Drunk went down there. Yeah, yeah.
I was, I was a little mad when Brady came.
Why is that? Because I knew he was old and.

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Even though this isn't like a Peyton Manning old.
No, but I knew he wasn't going to be there long term and we've
always been that franchise. You know that it'll have a
little burst and then it'll likedie.
And they're just terrible. You know, we won the Super Bowl
back in Note 3, and they weren'trelevant until Brady came.

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So I just didn't want that to beour.
Would you say it's like a team of like journeyman?
Like they kind of like turning players in and they kind of turn
them out and then they kind of go there and then they kind of
turn them out. Because before Brady had gotten
there, like there were a lot of players that were on the fence,
a lot of players that were kind of like on haphazard contracts.

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People were considering leaving.People were consider staying.
And then Brady comes in there and it's like, Oh my God.
Like, this is like legitimately building a new team.
Yeah. I mean, I think before Jameis it
was like that. But I mean, once Jameis came
into the picture, they knew theyhad a team.

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They just needed that one put person to push them over because
I mean, you know, we drafted evidence.
A lot of our team is based off people we drafted.
It wasn't until. But to your point, it was also
like a sea of like uncertainty of like, what are we doing here,
you know, and is the contract up?
Do you want to renew? Do you want to go somewhere

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else? Can I get out?
It's not like basketball where there's like a very limited
window of your prime, whether it's 27 to 31 and football, it's
a little bit a little bit vast. And it comes to kind of the
decisions that you make. Yeah.
So that's like whenever Brady came and that's, I was like,
yeah, he's going to give us like2-3 good years, but what's

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coming after that? Oh, Baker.
'S coming was after that. But we didn't know that at the
time. No, But would you have hitched
your wagon? Were you more excited for Baker
than you were Brady? Yeah, but I was a big Baker fan.
Yeah, you know. How can you not be a Baker fan?
I loved Baker. Yeah, like when you got drafted
with the Browns, I was like, this guy is gonna be good.
You watch him in college. I did.

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I just love the. Flag grabbing the balls and
everything like this. He wanted to be that villain
dude. But like a real big one, yes.
You know, he's he, he's just oneof those players that's
different. He doesn't.
Follow he doesn't follow the script.
You know you get him head butting people and then you know
he doesn't have a helmet and he'll go and like head butt his

(45:05):
lineman right. It's like you don't see a court.
Imagine Brady doing that. Of course not.
You know no. So Brady's a.
Brady's a pocket quarterback. Let's let's be clear.
Yeah, but he's a pocket quarterback.
So I was excited when we got Baker, but I wasn't certain
because I wasn't sure which Baker we were going to get.

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Oh. Man, I got to be fair with you.
I when I heard that, like the rumors were swirling, that was
the sea of uncertainty with thatyear, because all these
quarterbacks were getting contract after contract after
contract. And let's be fair, most
contracts in the NFL may as wellbe written on toilet paper

(45:49):
because you play with what you're worth.
And if you know what you're worth and go on and get what
you're worth. And if they don't see that, OK,
cool, I don't have to play. You'll see what I'm worth.
And that year, I don't know if you remember how like tedious it
was. Contract after contract was
getting picked up and signed, picked up and signed, changed,
altered. And here's Baker saying like,
well, well, I want one of those contracts.

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It's like, OK, maybe, but you'renot quite there yet.
Yeah, no, they gave him a one year proof, a deal, you know,
and then he. Prior to that, well prior to
that, he was in LA for a night. You know, that was that one game
and then before that he was justlike I'm going to play here, I'm
going to play here, I'm going toplay here.

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I just want to play. And before you know it, now you
got that grit. He got the one-of-a-kind working
class family that he's from. You got the walk on style vibe
that he brings. You have the hunger, you have
the aggression. Now you got him pissed off
because no team wants him. Like that was amazing.
I knew for a fact I was so excited when he went to Tampa

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just because I'm like this. You guys aren't just getting
Baker, OK? You're getting angry, upset,
bitter and pissed off Baker. And then look at that.
And then Evans decided to stay. I.
Love Evans Evans is, you know, my favorite player.
I think I really 5 jerseys 55 Evans jerseys.
Really all different. I mean, do you wear them in

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consecutive order through the season?
No, I don't wear jerseys during the season.
Why is that? It's what's it called, just
superstition. Yeah, there's one shirt I wear
and that's that's the only one. Do you wash the shirt?
Of course. Oh, OK, so you're not that
superstitious. It depends.

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If it's the playoffs, I don't. Oh.
OK, that's that's clever. Yeah, it it's dumb, but.
No, no, no, you don't like you're talking to someone who
was very. Superstitious back and forth.
Superstition. You know, I actually, I got that
shirt back during COVID. We had just signed Tom Brady had

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just turned the Bucks and they were playing the Broncos here.
So it was during that COVID yearwe were able to get tickets.
You know, stadium was super empty.
It's crazy to see, you know, Mile High that way.
And I wore that shirt. That's the year they won the
Super Bowl. So I just kind of kept wearing

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it throughout the season. Playoffs came through, you know,
we went through Green Bay, New Orleans.
Yeah, that was a great. That Green Bay game was amazing.
Yeah, I think. The Rogers was even better.
Yeah, I have. I have AI have a gripe against
Rogers, but that's just me. Anyway, continue.
Yeah, so I remember we we were playing the Saints and that was

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actually before we moved up to Colorado, me and my fiance.
And so I was we're driving back and I was like, I need everyone
to just stay quiet. I'm watching my game.
You know, we were apartment hunting that whole day and I was
wearing that same shirt. And it's just, you know, because

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the Saints had our number that season and I remember I was
like, well, you know what, if they win, they win.
If not, then I can't be too upset.
You know, we're in the playoffs.So it's rare that we can say
that. And no, they ended up winning.
So then the next week I was like, well, now we have another

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hard test. And that was that was the
Packers. I believe.
Yeah, because we went through the the Commanders, the Saints
and then the Packers, which the Commanders are the ones that
gave us a run for our money thatthat year, you know, Chase Young
and then Tyler Heineke. Anybody who goes that ham after

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winning a few games and you get your whole team's shoes, get
your whole team kicks and stuff,it's like, I don't think that's
that big of a deal. But I love that his passion and
love for it and the dive, I remember that like it was
yesterday to like literally JoshAllen style diving for it.
Remarkable. But yeah, I remember.
I remember very well. You don't go back and forth with

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Brady like that, you know, So, But yeah, I remember same thing
with Green Bay. You know, they were what, the
hottest team in the league that year aside from, you know, the
Chiefs. And we ended up, you know,
before halftime, Brady threw that was it like a 56 yard

(50:33):
touchdown that changed the wholemomentum to close it out.
The one play that can change theentire game, which weirdly he
did again in the Super Bowl against the Falcons, which
everybody wants to get, it was like 1 catch that's like that
far from the ground that just immediately just carried.
Yeah, and actually, I was one ofthe Brady haters, I will admit.

(50:55):
Yeah, I enjoy just Craftsman craftsmanship, but I just didn't
like him, you know, because he was a winner.
But then he came to our side, wewon.
So now he's, you know, he's OK in my books.
Isn't that wild? That's psychology.

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That's psychology that you're essentially rooting for.
The clothes. Yeah, it's, it's crazy because
you know, if you don't like thisperson for whatever reason, all
of a sudden it benefits you. Right, right.
You care to actually learn more about that person, and you're
like, you know what? This guy's actually not that.
That. Person that I thought he was

(51:36):
right, you know, so. I'll be I'll I'll say, I'll say
this on Mike and I'm comfortable.
If Mahomes ever became a Bronco,I'd be done.
I wouldn't root for him at all. No, no, absolutely not.
Absolutely not. And the whole reason for that
is, is because there's certain players that you have a
foundation for, right, that you build a foundation for and you
have a certain amount of respectfor.

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And to your point, you'll learn more about them.
You'll learn more and more and more about them.
I can appreciate Mahomes from a talent perspective, from a
talent level, OK. It's very, very hard for me to
suspend the disbelief that a lotof talking heads put him at.

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This past year was a perfect example of systematic dumb luck.
Dumb luck, dumb luck. Oh, we actually got exposed.
This is how you beat a quarterback like that.
And when you have an O line of journeymen that they keep
rotating through since the SuperBowl against your bucks, that's
what happens. That's exactly what happens.

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And you think to yourself, it was easy to hate Tom Brady
because he was really good. But the idea behind that pull
that curtain back, he's only as good as the people that are
blocking him, You know what I mean?
And then when you have that, it's that's the unification,
that's the team, that's the teamdynamic.
You know, whether it's Peyton Manning taking far less when he
came here to Denver, that old line was stacked.

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But it's also because, you know,man, his Manning was like
basically being held together with duct tape and ice packs at
that point. But getting back to that road,
to that Super Bowl, when, when your bucks went, how did you
feel of going going against Kansas City at that point?

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I saw the injury report and I knew our defensive line.
We were a defensive team. You know, we had Todd Walls
running our our defense. You know, you had Devin White at
the time. He was a monster.
Lavonte David. I mean, how come I love that

(53:45):
guy? He's a very underrated player in
the NFL. And then, you know, yeah.
Shaquille Barrett, Damien King SU, you know, we had just or
Vita Veya was there. I love Vita Veya.
So I knew like, once there, the offensive line, most of them

(54:07):
were injured. I was like, there's nobody
stopping, you know, that's the frontline.
If one of those gives that's that's your whole, like you're
saying if you have no one protecting you, you can work
wonders, but it's only going to get you so far.
Yeah, so. One of my old coaches used to
always say it's like legs on a chair.

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You take one of them out, the whole thing falls apart.
Yeah. And it's not unlike.
Yeah, yeah, right. It's the defensive mindset kicks
back in all these years later. It's the same thing for like
various like elements with boxing in those single person
sports. It's like cooking breakfast.
You flip the egg, you knock it down, OK, it's not ready yet.
OK, you flip it down, it's not ready yet.

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And then you just bam and then write in.
That's it. You wait for the window of
opportunity, but the game plans come in, which is fascinating.
And before we wrap this up, I wanted to get your opinion
because I would love to have youback here in a midway point
through the season because we'renot going to see you for a bit.
We're not going to hear from youin a bit because you are going
to be so in tune with the season.
But I wanted to ask, getting back to bringing this full

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circle as understanding that howemotional this makes you and how
invested you are, does it ever break your heart that there are
certain players that don't take this as seriously and they use
their platform to do various things that aren't exactly
relevant to the sport itself? A la a Aaron Rodgers or a

(55:38):
Jackson Mahomes or Tom Brady with certain allegations, Bill
Belichick with certain allegations.
Does that ever like crush, like kind of crush you because you
have that. And then you have Brock Purdy on
the other side. He's just a regular dude just
farming with the family. How does that hit you?

(55:59):
How does that hit you? Because for me, it makes me, I
don't give a fuck what you do. You know what I mean?
I don't really care, but you cansee the difference between like
the people that really want thatattention and really enjoy what
they're doing, and then you get like a a Brock Purdy or Dan
Campbell that's just notable fortheir character.

(56:21):
Yeah, I don't. I don't care as much.
I think I'd be in the same same boat you are.
You can see it and I recognize it, but I'm not like, oh, I
can't believe this person did that.
No, it's at the end of the day, they're they're a human being.
They're grown. They can make whatever decision
they want. It's not.

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I guess it would be more heartbreaking if it was.
I look to them as like idols, but I don't.
I just. You can separate the player from
the person. Yeah, You know, like I said, I
love Mike Evans, but I'm also not like I don't have a shrine
for him. Nah, you know.

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Not even after when he knocked out Vladimir.
No that. Was one of the greatest things.
That was one of the greatest things I've ever seen.
Like you don't go after Brady like that.
And then the fact that they had been doing this all games.
He did it to protect Winston as well, you know, that's to me.
That's why I like it. Michelle is his character, you

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know, it's this is my team. I protect my team mates and he
has the passion for the game. Bull.
And he's got the the stuff to back it up, too.
You know, 13th 1000 receiving yard season.
So yeah. But no, I mean whenever little
scandals come out, I'm like, well cool, let them handle it.

(57:49):
I don't have to handle it so. Right.
You know. Unless it's like your girlfriend
in an elevator or something likethat, then that's pretty hard to
defend. Yeah, that was nuts.
He went back for the flip flop, but still, that's not forgiving.
Dude, no, it's awful. That's a tough.
One I do, I will say I think it is crazy how a lot of athletes

(58:11):
take what they have for granted.You know, you've worked so hard
your whole life to get to where you're at and you're going to
throw it away because you weren't, You're throwing a
little temper tantrum. You know you can't control your
emotions. But it's got to be weird though,
right? I know that's kind of a weird
way to end this episode, but football, football, football,
football, push, push, push, push, push, punch, punch, punch,

(58:32):
punch, punch. And then all of a sudden, you're
outside of that atmosphere and you're like, oh, crap, I did
football. I shouldn't have done that.
Yeah. But do you ever enjoy, on a
lighter note, do you ever enjoy any, like, biographies about,
like, sports? Anyone that like resonates you,
whether it's like the Michael Orr story, whether that's
remember the Titans, anything along those lines, any of those

(58:54):
like kind of in your wheelhouse.I mean, I do see you know the
blind side. I like more documentaries.
OK, like a Hard Knocks drive to survive kind of stuff.
Pretty much, yeah. OK.
But the one I've been getting into is it's on Amazon Prime.
It's the Game 7, I don't know ifyou've seen it.

(59:18):
I've heard of it, it's just my alight bulb went off in my head.
Set it for the audience. Don't spoil it, but set it for
the audience. Yeah, so they just kind of take
a deep dive because, you know, they say game seven of any
sport, that's the game. You know, you grow up and if you
want to be an athlete like game seven, you know it for

(59:38):
basketball, you're it's that game 754321 you're shooting in
like, you know, whatever your favorite team is, you're just
like, oh, I just want it for my team in Game 7.
But yeah, it just kind of looks at some history of each famous
Game 7. So, you know, The Mavericks and

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Spurs Game 7 is on there and it talks about like international
players, how like, you know, Dirk and Tim Duncan.
Yeah. So Ginobili Parker, it's.
Fascinating, isn't it? Yeah, that could be a whole
episode. On itself, they have the Red Sox
Yankees, you know, back when they went to their Game 7 and

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Derek Jeter was on there. So it really gives you, like we
mentioned at the beginning of this show, it's that culture,
that passion that each city has,you know, because there's no
bigger rivalry, I think, than the Red Sox, Yankees, so.
It's up there for sure. So those are really cool, and

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then hockey gets thrown in there.
OK. Because I think hockey is a very
overlooked sport. Oh yeah.
You know. Well, it's just because like you
consider like Canada and the US and then obviously you get the,
the, the building blocks of teams that are purchased, teams
that are switched, teams that are rebuilt.
Canada, it's their sport. Yeah.

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I think that's why it's not big,as big as, you know, football or
basketball here in the in the States.
It's because it's not very American prominent.
All the athletes are, you know, Canadian or overseas, you know,
Philly and Sweden, different places like that.

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So I think that's why it's not you don't have your American
hero or heroes to like root for.Like Gretzky?
Exactly. Fascinating man.
So I got to say this is this is definitely like that new level,
a new level of like, just like the sports conversation.

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You know, I genuinely appreciatehaving this conversation with
you because there's so many rabbit holes we can go down.
Yeah, there's, that's the beautyof it.
That's amazing, man. Would you come back and do
another one? Of course, yeah.
Yeah, Well, after the season, obviously.
No, we'll work it out. Work it out in between.
Oh OK, that's that's good news man, that's good news.
We'll. Work it out.

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All right, before we get out of here, is there anything that you
are looking forward to this season just to wrap it up on a
high note? Just there's so much.
There's a lot. This season is a very
interesting season. I would need another 45 minutes,
you know, of course, I'm I'm excited to see my bucks.
We OK, we brought our returning players, got Baker, Evans,

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Godwin, you know, our whole defense is still intact.
OK, So I'm excited to see how they build on Baker's third
year, you know, with our new OC,because we don't talk about
going. I'm excited to see how the
Broncos do as well, you know, ifto see if Bo Nicks is going to

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have a sophomore slump, But I love Bo Nicks.
Of course, you know, I'm a huge Oregon Ducks football fan, so I
love, I love Bo Nicks. I just hate, you know, I hate
Sean Payton. I don't like him.
I like him as a person. I don't like him as a coach.
So it's hard for me to root for the Broncos when I know he's

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he's there. Yeah.
So. I get you.
Remember, we're separating the player from the from the actual
person. And it seems like it's pretty
hard to do that for Peyton, for you, huh?
Oh yeah, OK. But I mean, even as a coach, I I
just don't like him. All right, so.
Maybe that could be a Part 2 with the analyst, huh?
You know, we could start there and then kind of go down that
rabbit hole where it would go. Yeah, that's awesome, man.

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Hey, dude, I want to thank you sincerely for being here.
I know it took a minute to kind of get you down here to kind of
clear the schedule out and stuff, but I think this one's
going to resonate. I think this one's going to
resonate. I think it's going to hit people
on another level because you andI are speaking.
But what people forget is peopleare going to hear this on the
way to work. They're going to hear this when
they're cooking. They're going to hear this when

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they're working out. They're going to hear this
whatever day looks like for them, you know?
So I want to thank you sincerelyfor giving a shot and coming
down here and want to be part ofthis and be an existing voice.
This is what I'm talking about when I'm talking about wrapping
up Season 1 the right fucking way.
I really appreciate. Oh yeah, you know, it's, it's

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exciting. Oh yeah.
And I think there's, like you'resaying, there's a lot we can
deep dive into. So yes, we have all the time.
Absolutely. Hey, I want to thank you for
being here man. Likewise.
Appreciate it. Hey, for everybody else out
there, I want to thank all of you so much for making the core
of the entertainment a part of your day.

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This is a special one. This is kind of winding down,
Season 1 winding down a little bit, and then on a bit of a high
note, more of an intellectual note.
Episode 100 will be released next next week, I believe.
And I cannot thank the analysts for being here.

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