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July 15, 2025 48 mins

Mike and Katie DeSanto, owners of Phoenix Books, share their journey in opposing the construction of a massive 107,000 square foot Amazon warehouse in Essex. They discuss the vital role of keeping dollars local, the community support that independent businesses foster, and the essence of entrepreneurship.

In the opening segment, Andy and Joanna discuss their experiences with Development Review Boards, catch up on Joanna's recent activities fighting the oligarchy in Vermont, and discuss shapes they might be willing to shave into the side of their heads.

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