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June 24, 2025 42 mins

Secretary of State Sarah Copeland Hanzas joins the podcast to discuss the elections bill, The Kid Governor Program, office initiatives, and voter security. She also shares her thoughts on what it means to be a Vermonter and, of course, her favorite creemee order.

In the opening segment, Andy and Joanna break down the activity from the June 16th legislative session, including the drama surrounding the education reform vote

Joanna and Andy discuss whether the Philly Phantic is cute or obnoxious and his obvious inferiority to Mr. Met.

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