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Do you ever know something is working, but the feeling isn’t there? Sometimes something good doesn’t mean it’s right. In this episode Mo tells a tale about a pair of borrowed pants, musical serendipity, and love that feels good but just isn’t right. She reflects on a relationship with kindness, keeping the memories bright instead of bitter. If you’re interested in emotional timing, respecting capacity, and letting a relationship end without turning it into a failure—this is the episode for you. 

It’s about self-love, boundaries, and the unexpected freedom of a breakup that feels like summer break in a slightly unsettling way. If you’ve ever wondered how to navigate labels, embarrassment, and endings with grace, this is your invitation to laugh, reflect, and choose yourself—every f*cking time.

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“Don’t get Deterred, get Inspired”

Episode Transcript

SPEAKER_00 (00:08):
About a month ago, I was at a little festival, um, a
festival in St.
Pete that was for food and wineand lots of boozes.
And I was so happy to bringalong the the guy that I've been
seeing um for quite a fewmonths.

(00:30):
And it was it was uh gifted tome by St.
Pete Life magazine by my editorthere, and he was just like,
here are the tickets, like gohave fun.
And so I felt very invigoratedto be able to share this with
someone who I feel like has justbeen treating me to all the nice
things, and we had a reallygreat time.

(00:50):
I mean, we were you know, youget these giant bags and you
just walk all around the the imean it's right on the
waterfront park down in St.
Pete, um, downtown St.
Pete.
And you uh have wine glasses andcards and and all this
information from these vendors,and you get free all this free
food, and it's just a good time,and you know, you're getting a

(01:12):
little bit a little bitinebriated.
And that's one of the things Ilike about him is that he knows
how to let loose.
That's one of the things Ireally enjoyed about him because
I think that there's somethingto being able to first of all
know your limit, but also to beable to have fun in that way.
And so we did, we had quite abit of fun.
Now I was wearing a pair ofpants that were his pants.

(01:36):
Um, these were a pair of pantsthat I cannot tell you how many
compliments that I get on thesefucking pants.
Like they were he offered me adrawer in his dresser to keep my
clothes in.
Um, and when I put some clothesin there one morning, there was
there there these pants were,and I and I thought that they
were great because they matchedthe brown like tank that I had

(01:58):
on.
So there's sort of like linenbrown that had an interesting
cut in the back elastic of thethe waistband, and like they
made my butt look really good.
I really enjoyed them, and theywere a little bit shorter than
ankle length.
I the the amount of times that Iwore these pants out just
because I was like they'regreat, and the amount of
compliments that I would get.
I remember I told him this, andI was like, Do you remember that

(02:20):
you had a pair of pants in yourdresser drawer that I was
wearing?
And he's like, You wore thebrown, like linen elastic band
pants out, and I was like, Idid, and people love them.
And he was like, Do you knowwhere those are from?
And I was like, I don't know ifI want to when you say it like
that.

(02:40):
And he was like, Those are thepants that I got from the
veterans hospital, because he'syou know, he's a veteran, and
and he he was like, Those arethe pants that I wore when I was
in the hospital, and he has hehas Crohn's, and so quite a bit
of sickness was had in thesepants, and you know, I can't

(03:01):
tell.
I just think they look great onme.
And so those are the pants thatI like think are hilarious now.
I think they're quite lucky, andI don't care because they're
clean and they make my butt lookgood, and so I wore these pants
out into the wild, and I worethem on this day down in in St.
Pete.
And as we're walking around thisfood art drink, you know,

(03:21):
extravaganza, there are thishuge lineup of porta-potties.
And when I walk into the portapotty, it is like one of the
cleanest porta potties that Ihave ever seen.
And I mean that like it was itsmelled great in there, it was
clean, it was like a brand newtop of line, like no one had

(03:41):
ever peed in here before, Ithink.
And this was like the secondtrack that I had to the porta
potty.
So I am well, um I know what'shappening in here.
I know that's clean.
And as I'm popping a squat, likeI hover over the seat because
I'm a lady and doesn't matterhow clean it is there, I'm not
gonna sit down.
And I go to pee, and I have hadquite a few glasses of whatever

(04:03):
the fuck, and I just realizedthat there's like kind of a bit
of a mist happening.
I'm like, where is this mistcoming from?
And and the lid to the portapotty is black, black like the
porta-potty hole usually is ifyou were to look into it, but it
was so clean in there that Ididn't look into the porta-potty
hole because I was just like,wow, it's dark in there, you

(04:25):
know?
And the lid was black and it wasdown, and so I was not peeing
into the hole, I was peeing onthe lid, and it went-I mean, it
was pretty much it's pretty wet.
It's pretty wet on the pantsthat were around my knee area.
And I was pretty horrifiedbecause there weren't any blow
dryers in there, there weren'teven anything to dry your hands

(04:45):
on.
It was just me and the pantsthat I thought were lucky that
maybe were not.
I don't know.
And I was like, well, it's justgonna be a moment in our dating,
isn't it?
Like, I don't know.
Um, I need help.
And so I like walk out likestraight to him with the bag
kind of like hanging waysidebehind me, and I go up to him
and I'm like, somethinghappened.
It was not good, like bad thingshappened in there.

(05:07):
And he was like, What happened?
And I was like, I need to knowif I because he took he had a
blazer on, it was a greatblazer, like, but it was longer
and he had taken it off, so hewasn't wearing it.
And I was like, Can I wear that?
And he was like, Yes, you can.
And I like, you know, told himwhat had happened, and he was
laughing, but also, you know,worried for me.
And so I put this blazer on andit is like just right below my

(05:30):
butt where it hits.
And I do the turnaround and I'mlike, How does it look?
Can you see it?
And he was like, I think it'sactually like the perfect
height, I think it's perfect.
And as we're doing this, as I'mstanding in pee pants wearing
his blazer, you know, with apair of sweet ass stunnies on my
face, holding a bag of goodies,being kind of horrified that I
have done this to myself.
This girl walks over to us andshe's just like, I just have to

(05:52):
tell you guys that you guys justlook so cool.
Like you look like you're justlike the coolest couple here.
Just like you look great, youlike kind of match.
It's like I'm just reallyenjoying your vibe.
And so I wanted to tell youthat.
And I just I think I made theweirdest noise, like just so
humbled, really.
Because that, you know, him andI are standing there trying to

(06:14):
gauge how to to deal with thefact that I have peed on myself,
and someone thinks we're cool,and so I just, you know, he was
like, I feel like if anything,that means we need to get back
in there.
And I'm like, I think you'reright.
So we just went right back in.
It was really hot that day.
So they tried pretty fast.
But things happen, and and andit's how you respond that
matters.

(06:35):
And about an hour and a halfafter that, we were standing at
one of those stand-up tablesthat happens like under the
giant event tents, the rickety,sort of very tall stand-up
tables where you kind of putyour tiny little samples and
food and whatnot to have a quickbite and chat with strangers.
And I was waiting there and hekept going back to one of these

(06:55):
booths that had this reallydelicious drink that I don't
remember the name of itwhatsoever, but he kept going
back and they loved him and heloved them.
And the last time he was gonnago back, he was like, you know
what?
I'm just gonna say that you wantsomething so that they don't
think I'm crazy and I'm gonna goback and get you something.
And as he comes back with thisbig glass of whatever this
delicious drink is, he and I,you know, we're looking at each

(07:18):
other and he just goes, I justtold them that my girlfriend
wanted one, and they they let mehave it, and they let me have
two.
And and at this point, likewe're not we're not boyfriend
and girlfriend.
Like we've been dating a lot forsure.
But I, you know, like we're inlove and we show up for each
other, and it's like we're in arelationship deeply, which is

(07:40):
the thing that annoys me that hejust is like using it for his
advantage to tell someone thatI'm his girlfriend when I'm not.
And and I just look at him andI'm like, okay, okay.
And he's like, Oh, right.
And so we both just kind of havethis moment, and I don't need
him to ask me to do that, but Ijust don't like that he's kind
of abusing it, like it feelsdisrespectful.

(08:02):
And he's like, Do you want to bemy girlfriend?
And I like waited to just belike, How do I feel about this?
And how do I feel like he'sasking me in this moment?
And as I'm waiting, the songthat is on in the background is
Jesse's girl, and Jesse's girlis the song that I started

(08:24):
seeing in the beginning of usdating because the guy who I'm
dating his name's Jesse, whichis a great name, and it's a
sweet name, and that song whichis on as he's asking me this,
and it just felt so I mean, itfelt like magic.
And I just thought that it wouldbe okay that I was his
girlfriend, even if it maybewasn't for all the right

(08:46):
reasons.
It made me really happy to knowthat that I could say that he
was mine, and I liked it, andit's pretty adorable that that
song came on.
We had a great, I mean, I thinkwe had a great day, you know,
the rest of the day.
We were joking about beingboyfriend and girlfriend, and
that you know, I was his andthat he was mine.
I think it lasted a littlewhile, then it didn't, you know.

(09:10):
That was in the beginning ofNovember, and we actually we
broke up um, you know, thebeginning of December.
So we dated for about ninemonths, really.
And and it was real and it wasgood, and I think a lot of good
stuff happened in there for me,like knowing when to step away
and knowing when someone wasn'tmeeting me, and knowing that it

(09:30):
was okay for me to meet them ifthey weren't able to do the
whole thing, you know.
So I wouldn't change anythingabout it.
It's a different type ofbreakup, it's a different type
of breakup because like my heartdidn't fall out through my chest
or my ass or whatever.
Like, you know, it wasn'tenough, and it was so good, and
yet it was okay that it thatit's over because I have so many

(09:52):
amazing memories and a lot oflaughter, and who knows what's
to come next, you know.
Like, who knows what I'm gonnaget into now?
Who knows what will be free upin my life, and who knows?
I don't know, and I I'm excited,like I'm excited.
It feels kind of like summerbreak, and it doesn't mean that
I just I fucking really lovethis person, but I don't think

(10:16):
I've this is definitely thefirst type of breakup that I
think I've ever had like this,where both parties were just
kind of like, yeah, I love you,but just this isn't it, you
know, like this isn't it,whether it's not it right now or
it's just not it, always it wasit was it for a moment, and it
was it for a very transitionalmoment, especially in my life,

(10:40):
of getting to the next part, andso many good stories, just so
many good stories.
And I'm really happy that youknow, if I was gonna experience
what I experienced with anybody,I'm I'm happy that it was with
him.
And if someone will ask you tobe their girlfriend, you know,
two hours after you've peed intheir pants, I think that who
knows what type of love you canbring in with a person that

(11:05):
wants to legitimately be besideyou, you know, no matter what
they're what they're drinking,no matter what they're going
after, no matter no matter whatthey want for themselves, that
they want you to be beside them.
And that's the part that I'mjust really looking forward to.
Like I just there's so manythings that I learned in this

(11:26):
relationship, like so many goodthings, and especially how much
I fucking just love myself.
Man, I'm a great girlfriend.
I really am, you know, maybe toogood.
Because if you don't want one,it's gonna be a lot.
It's gonna be a lot.
Sometimes you just don't knowuntil you're in it, and I get
it.

(11:46):
And if that's you, if you'remaybe in a relationship that
you're like, I don't, I justit's not, you know, like it
doesn't feel like it's the thingthat you want right now.
You might have to listen tothat, but you don't have to rush
out anywhere.
Like, things can come to arolling end, and you will both

(12:07):
probably feel it, and it willactually set you free.