Just Between Us... Boobs, Mormons, and Magic Muscle Patches

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
all right.
So this is what the internet ismad about this week.
Welcome to another episode ofthis day's between us, where we
roast what's trending welcomeback.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
Okay, we're gonna be talking, we're gonna be making
some confessions and we're gonnabe reading some confessions, I
guess.
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It's been such a journeygetting everything ready for
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We need help.
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Uh, we did get in a few fightsbut we're good now okay, it
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(01:18):
had to finish the work with myboyfriend.
He was nicer to me, he has moreto lose.

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They were great help.
I'm glad they were here to help.
Um, yeah, but I'm very excited.
I feel like our little studiois shaping up.

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Speaker 2 (01:44):
So slow improvements, yeah, slow and steady yeah, let
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Speaker 1 (01:56):
That helps.

Speaker 2 (01:57):
That helps too yeah, tell us we're doing great.
Um, okay, crystal.
Something I'm really curious toknow about is about your
journey with the boob reduction.
That hasn't started, yeah, well, what was that?
I know you went to aconsultation, so what was that

(02:19):
all like?

Speaker 1 (02:21):
yeah, so, um, I actually had a roommate who got
a breast reduction like foreverago and so well, and my sister
got like some plastic surgerytoo after having kids.
So I asked her first and thenshe gave me a recommendation.
I called them in 2023 toschedule an appointment.
That appointment was for augustof 2025.

(02:42):
No, it's still in the Way itwas so long ago that I don't
even have their number to callback to confirm the time or the
date.

Speaker 2 (02:50):
Oh my gosh, yeah, they were that far booked yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:54):
That is crazy.
Just for the consultation, noteven the surgery that could.
I don't even know.
That probably would be in like2040.
I might be dead.
I know there's no guaranteethey'll still have a client.
I might be in the ground orcremated somewhere by the time
they have an appointment for me,but yeah.
But then I reached out to one ofmy roommates and I was like I
know, just the boobies with me,um, but yeah, I reached out to

(03:17):
one of my old roommates and shewas like, oh, you should go to
this guy and I actually was ableto schedule an appointment
within like a couple months,which was really good, yeah, and
I went in and I always wearlike a minimizer bra because I
just they're too big at thispoint.
It has to be like a sports braor whatever.
And if anyone is strugglingwith this, I did find some
really good ones on Amazon aftersearching for years, literally,

(03:40):
but, um, have you tried?

Speaker 2 (03:43):
like I know TikTok's got some that they keep pushing
out.
Have you tried those?
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (03:48):
Well, I don't like the ones with the wire under it,
because it like ends up justdigging into you and not having
that much coverage.
Yeah, I found some that arethey don't have a wire and they
have like a coverage up here.
So then, like your boobs arenot trying to escape from the
top which sometimes mine do,yeah, so those have worked out
pretty good.
I just barely got them in themiddle like a month ago and I've

(04:09):
been wearing them.
They've been good.
So I went for my appointmentand they were really, really
nice.
And when it's kind of awkwardbecause you have to like,
obviously, take your top off,and then this nurse was like
we're gonna go into this roomand we're going to take some
pictures, I'm like great.

Speaker 2 (04:26):
Just please don't post them on the internet.

Speaker 1 (04:31):
Is this blackmail?
So I get the surgery done here,Like.

Speaker 2 (04:35):
I don't know If you find any other surgeon.
These will be posted on.

Speaker 1 (04:40):
Facebook, I know, Anyway, but she was nice.
She's like we're're gonna makesure that your face is cropped.
We're just taking pictures andthen so she's making small talk
with me, as she's like okay, nowturn to the left.
Okay, now center, Now turn tothe right, Now do this.
And I'm just like hanging andshe's talking to me and I'm like
this is so like uncomfy andthey're all just going in her

(05:09):
ipad and I'm like okay.

Speaker 2 (05:10):
and she's just like how was your weekend?

Speaker 1 (05:11):
you're just, you got your boobs out like I don't know
, I feel like you could tell myfuture right now just by looking
at my boobies.
Also, I noticed that her ipad,the screensaver, was a picture
of her with, like her husband onher wedding day or something,
and I'm just thinking like Ihope this is not a personal ipad
just imagine her kid later onlike trying to play minecraft or

(05:32):
whatever game, just swipingthrough.
Yeah, so uncomfy, so funny.
And it was funny too because shetook me back to the other room
and then she was just showinglike it made sense, because she
was like I'm going to show yousome pictures of some of the
surgeries that we've done and soyou have an idea of what to
expect, and like some people golike smaller than others and

(05:52):
whatnot.
And so she's showing me a coupleof pictures and explaining what
the um incision would look like.
Basically they call it like thelollipop or whatever what that
incision that like around yournips and then down and then like
a smiley face around it andthat's how they like remove it
and then move stuff up.

(06:12):
And so I I kind of understoodthat already because I've done
some research, not a lot, butlike just enough to be like
where do I go to cut these off?
And like please help, um, yeah,so she's just showing me them
and I'm like, oh, okay, yeah, Iknow that makes sense.
Uh, that looks good, I get it.
And then she's like keepshowing me picture.
I don't know if she was liketrying to buy time for the

(06:34):
doctor, but she was showing mepictures of boobs for like 45
minutes.

Speaker 2 (06:37):
I'm not even lying, she's just scrolling more and
I'm like, okay, I've never seenso many boobs, I know, I know.

Speaker 1 (06:44):
This just feels weird now.

Speaker 2 (06:47):
Like I got the point like five pictures ago.

Speaker 1 (06:50):
I know and like all you have to do is like, really
just show me like one personLike this was before, this was
after, this is after like a year.
That makes sense, but everyonewas like before, right after,
after a year, Like so manydifferent boobs I probably saw,
like all of utah valley's boobsthe full album.

Speaker 2 (07:10):
You're just gonna see people like walking around and
be like, oh, those are the boobsnice lollipop very good.

Speaker 1 (07:19):
Um, yeah, it was just kind of awkward.
And the doctor came in and hadme like open it.
Well, he was looking at me andtalking to me for a while and
then he had me open up the gownand then he was like, oh, I see
what you're talking about andI'm like thank you for
validating me, but at the sametime that was too heavy on the
oh, like I would appreciate,like okay, I understand.

(07:40):
But like oh, yeah, I understand.
But like oh, yeah, sir, you'regetting reported for that.
It's like okay, you just lost astar in that review.
We'll see how the rest of thisis gonna go.
But also just awkward becausehe'd like and I get that, it's
just the situation I didn't.
It's not like I felt likeviolated, it was just like weird
but yeah no, picked up one ofmy boobs and he's like squishing

(08:03):
it and moving it around and I'mjust like right here staring at
him like okay, you're liketrying to not make eye contact.

Speaker 2 (08:12):
It's like that is so funny.
It's like usually a man buys medinner first.

Speaker 1 (08:16):
I know it's like yeah , come on, at least dessert, I
don't know a soda, anything,yeah.
So he was just doing that for awhile and there was another
lady there and like I think justfor compliance or whatever
which, and it wasn't like hewasn't disrespectful, it was
just like he was doing his thing.
But I just know it was my firsttime, so I'm like, okay, no

(08:40):
cool, do you need the other onetoo?

Speaker 2 (08:44):
you're, like the other one's, feeling left out.
Now I know seriously yeahanyway.

Speaker 1 (08:50):
So it was kind of awkward and but it's fine, and
he was like, yeah, just askingme a bunch of questions.
Oh, the other thing that hesaid, this also hurt my feelings
, doctors have a way of doingthat, and I don't think he was
trying to be mean, but it wasmean because he's doing that and
then he out of nowhere justgrabs, like my fat here on my

(09:12):
back, and he's like, oh, and weprobably want some lipo right
here.
And I'm like, okay, like surecut whatever you don't like.

Speaker 2 (09:24):
Oh, my gosh, that's like me.
When I went to the dentist andthe dentist like well, you could
use some filler.
I'm like dude, I'm here for myteeth it totally made me think
of that.

Speaker 1 (09:34):
I'm like stop trying to upsell me like my self-esteem
is in the garbage already I'mnot here for my cheekbones.
I left all all my self-esteemon that iPad from the other
nurse Like come on, anyway.
So that was awkward.
Oh, that's so funny, anyway,yeah, so we wrapped it up and
then I went into this littleroom with this lady and she was,

(09:57):
I guess, the person whoschedules the surgeries and like
deals with the billing andstuff.
So I was just asking her somequestions because I was like,
will this be like covered byinsurance?
Is this now in a pocket?
And it was just really weirdtoo, because she was like, did
he say it was medicallynecessary?
And I was like he didn't say it.
But like they measured me andstuff and I know, based off of

(10:20):
like things that I've read frommy insurance, that it would be,
um, just based on my size andwhatnot, yeah, and so, um, what?
are the qualifications for so atleast through my insurance.
From what I've read um it hasyou have to be'm like.

(10:47):
I'm a band like 32 or 34, butmy cup is a K, so I'm above that
.
I didn't even know I went thatfar.
I didn't either.
And when I was breastfeeding itwas even larger and I was like
I don't know what to do.
This is so out of control.
Yeah, because it must give youso many back problems, too
endless.
My neck hurts, my back hurts.

(11:08):
I just, yeah, it's so heavy andyeah, I don't know.
And when I was breastfeeding Isometimes would do the uh,
hands-free one, because it'sjust easier, the ones that you
put in your bra, but it's likethis big and you're putting that
inside your bra with your boobs.
I was like I don't know.
I need a tent or something tohold all this.

(11:29):
I don't know how.
Yeah, it's just like.
It's like it looks like thiswhat is it?
It's a hands-free pump.
Oh, a pump, yeah, okay.
So you just put it like in yourbra, uh-huh, put your nip in
the right spot and then juststart the thing.
But yeah, so that was likeunmanageable.
But yeah, so it definitely was.

(11:52):
And then another thing I readfrom the insurance is that they
might have like a certain amountthat they require you to take
off, and it was like 500 gramsper boob, which, from what I
want, it's like a thousand offeach at least, so it would
qualify.
But she was so rude about it.
She's like, no, if you didn'tsay it's probably not.
And looking at you right now,you probably don't qualify.
And I'm like I'm wearing asports bra.
Trust that, once, girl.

(12:14):
Trust just that once itunclicks, it got pictures on the
ipad over there just take alook at those.
I know seriously, yeah, so thatwas wild, yeah, it's an
experience.
And then she hands me the billand she's like, yeah, without
insurance, it's like fourteenthousand dollars.
And I'm like, okay, I wasn'texpecting that.
Um, did she tell you what itwould be with?

(12:37):
insurance no, she.
She showed me what the paymentplan would be and then, with
like without insurance,completely like just what would
we do?
And so I'm looking into it, I'mtrying.
I'm gonna go to my doctor andsee if I can get something
signed from them, because if Ido, then I can take it back to
the surgeon and then see whatthat would look like yeah, no,

(12:57):
that would be wild if theydidn't approve if it wasn't like
covered by insurance, becausethat's definitely been like a
journey for you and I know, yeah, the back issues is not
something to be kidding aroundabout.
I know, I just want to run foryou again one day maybe without

(13:19):
them bobbing in the wind, bunchof me and giving me a black eye
To it be nice.
Yeah, yeah, that's crazy.
And then today I'm just like ona journey now, but today I got
Botox on my masters finally.
Yeah, how is that feeling Good?
I mean, it feels a little likenumb.

(13:41):
I think it feels a littledifferent talking with it, but
that's supposed to help too.
So no more grinding my teethand breaking my front tooth,
hopefully.
So, hey, there you go, justdoing all the works, just fixing
it up everything.
Your skin is glowing, though,so thank you.
Yeah, I also bought some makeup, some new like skincare stuff.
I'm like trying to take care ofmyself more.

(14:02):
Look at you.
I have not done in a long time,which is, but yeah, I'm even
like using retinol now.

Speaker 2 (14:10):
Wow, retinol.
I've never had a goodexperience with retinol.
It's breaking me up.
I was gonna say it's always.
There was this one time I wentto I was in college and I had
started using retinol.
Because time I went to I was incollege and I had started using
retinol, because, I don't know,I got influenced into it.
Yeah, I started using retinoland my I woke up one day and my

(14:32):
face was just peeling all overthe place and it's like winter.
So I don't really have like aoh, I was just in the sun, sort
of excuse, you know, but it wasjust it was.
It looked so bad and I was likeI can't not go to class, like I
have to, yeah, and it's likethe kind of thing that the more
makeup you put on to cover it,like the worse it looks.

(14:54):
Oh my gosh, I was mortified.
I would like go to the bathroomevery like 30 minutes to try
and like I'd like get some ofthe skin off.
But it was just yeah.
And then after that I was likeI don't think I can do the
retinol.

Speaker 1 (15:09):
Yeah, I think you have to ease into it.
That happened to me actually.
Um, I went to the dermatologist.
I was having like some skinproblems also like early in
college, and she told me to getbenzoyl peroxide, which works
really well, but she told me toget like one that had like 10,
which is apparently too high,and then I also fell asleep with
it on my face so I made it evenworse.

(15:30):
But that happened to me.
I was like peeling and then Iput makeup on and I literally
was at work and like my skinwith my makeup was just like
coming off of my face.
Just go to the bathroom andit's like, oh cool, like I just
have skin hanging.
It was so bad.
Yeah, it looked good after, butit was.

Speaker 2 (15:48):
Yeah, no, the process is brutal.
I did a chemical peel once andthat was that's like what's
supposed to happen, right, solike I expected it.
But I was also like I hated itso much and then not picking.
Yeah, like I hated it so muchand I'm not picking.
Yeah, well, you, you can't pickon at it and it, and it's so

(16:10):
noticeable too and I don't knowI, I it wasn't even a matter
like I was almost trying to beconfident, even like go around
where I had to go and beconfident or whatever but it was
like that's not like that wholerule did not apply to that
situation.

Speaker 1 (16:27):
It just looks like you have leprosy or something
just trying to own it a hundredpercent.

Speaker 2 (16:32):
And then it's like I felt fine being around my
boyfriend, obviously like hedidn't care, yeah, but then he
like made plans with hisbrother's family and I was like,
yeah, I was like I don't wantpeople to see me.
And there's like his nieces andnephews.
I was like I don't want to bearound kids when I look like
this, I don't want to.

(16:52):
They will destroy you, theywill wreck me, and I also don't
want to like give themnightmares.
I don't want to be the scarygirl their uncle brought around
one time.
Oh, that's tragic.
It was, yeah, I feel that, butI survived.

Speaker 1 (17:10):
That's good.
I'm a survivor.
I'm glad you made it.

Speaker 2 (17:13):
It's tough.

Speaker 1 (17:14):
No, it was Chemical peels and all that.
Oh yeah, have you ever had one?
Yeah, I've done it a couple oftimes.
Yeah, and it just yeah, sameexperience I'm.

Speaker 2 (17:26):
I'll be so honest, I'm bad and I pick at it because
I'm like I'm just gonna get theskin that's like hanging, yeah.

Speaker 1 (17:29):
And then you pull just a little too much and
you're like it's like with thered skin, it's raw.

Speaker 2 (17:37):
I have I always get scissors and I like start
cutting up the skin.

Speaker 1 (17:41):
That's like not coordinated enough to not lose
my nose but I've seen people dothat but like the baby scissors,
like the eyebrow ones yeahthat's.
That's probably better.
Have you seen the girl?
Um, there's this girl on tiktokthat says that she's trying out
the caveman skin.

(18:03):
Yes, and it looks like she hasdoodoo on her face.
Oh, she lying.
She's like scar face girl.
It's like a clay mask orsomething.
And yeah, I saw that she endedit with like a brand deal with
sarah v or something and likewashing her face and it coming
off and being like girl.

(18:23):
I mean, I like it's like rage,but also like that's so stupid,
because I saw the first video Isaw of her.
She was at the salon likegetting her hair done, so she
like committed.
She was leaving the house withthat junk on her face.
I think she even went to like awedding.
Oh, she would get kicked out ofmy wedding, can you?

Speaker 2 (18:42):
imagine like is that contagious?

Speaker 1 (18:45):
yeah, and you know, like I mean she's probably not
like a bridesmaid or likesomeone that's going to be in a
lot of pictures, but imagine ifshe was.
I'd be like you have to go home, yeah, or like, wash the stupid
stuff off your face.

Speaker 2 (18:58):
It's like we can all tell it's a mask it looks like
mud.

Speaker 1 (19:02):
You look bad also.
What kind of like?
What kind of treatment is thatwhere, like you don't put water
on it?
It's like that's not a detox,that's like a fungus infestation
, like what are you trying to do?

Speaker 2 (19:14):
yeah, people are disgusting.
Yeah, imagine, yeah, I I'veheard of people doing that with
their hair too of like notwashing it for so long and I can
smell that I don't know how.
I don't know how they can do itif, like, I cannot go for more
than like three days withoutwashing my hair.

(19:37):
Me neither, I mean even afterone day, my hair is I.
I think it's like I have enough, like a lot of hair, and so it,
like the oil, gets trapped inthere a lot more.

Speaker 1 (19:47):
Yeah, so it needs to be washed more, but like 1000%
if I put my hand like close tolike the top and it like slides
slightly.
I'm like I'm washing my hair.
I don't care if it's been liketwo hours I'm washing it because
it just gets like I don't know.
Yeah, I can smell it, it justis nasty, like the build-up and
like just the sweat and like, ohokay, just gets like I don't
know.
Yeah, I can smell it, it justis nasty, like the build-up and
like just the sweat and like, oh, okay.

(20:09):
The other thing I don'tunderstand people who I can't do
this.
They go to the gym and thenthey like come back or like
they'll do like a get ready withme for work.
They'll go to the gym, they'llcome back, they take a shower,
but they don't wash their hairand they just put makeup on.

Speaker 2 (20:24):
It's like, girl, your hair is dirty wash that I'm
actually one of those girls.

Speaker 1 (20:30):
Sometimes I have to I have been in a pinch before, so
it's not like I've never doneit, but it's I'm very like no,
yeah, if I have the time toshower.

Speaker 2 (20:39):
I, in fact, I actually have, like I have a
problem.
I really I, I love showering.
It's one of those things thatI'm gonna have to clean.
I just like it's so relaxingand it feels just so good.
Yeah, um, but I don't haveenough time in my day to shower

(21:00):
as much as I would like toshower.
Yeah, and um, I don't rememberwhat the second thing was.
I think that it's also not verygood to shower too much.
You know, like there is such athing as like showering, washing
your hair too much, and so,anyway, I get that Like you have

(21:21):
your natural oils and stuff,but I feel like that's like once
.

Speaker 1 (21:24):
I feel like that's like no, but I have a hard time
okay.

Speaker 2 (21:26):
I have a hard time.
Yeah, I is it.
I.
I get in this debate withpeople all the time like how
often should you wash your hair?

Speaker 1 (21:34):
because I am all for at least no, once a day, not at
least because that's when we getinto problems, but like either
once a day or once every otherday I think it definitely
depends on what kind of hair youhave, but I feel like the trend
to not wash your hair, to likecleanse it or whatever, just
clogs up your pores and itleaves it nasty.

(21:55):
Yeah, I don't think that helpsat all.
And look, maybe it works foryou.
I, I can't.
I've tried it.
Uh, like I'm not hating fromoutside the club, I have tried
it and it's I'm not hating fromoutside the club.
I have tried it and it'sdisgusting.
It makes it so my hair is likereally not growing.
It looks worse because it'snasty.

Speaker 2 (22:10):
Yeah, it's like sticking to your scalp.
Yeah, it's super shiny.

Speaker 1 (22:15):
Yeah, and it's like I don't want my hair to be extra
long if it's going to look nasty90% of the time.
I cannot commit to that.
Yeah, it's disgusting, and theother thing I'll say and look,
this might catch some hate, butI don't think americans know how
to shower or clean themselves.
And then they come out withthese trends of like we're gonna
do it once a week.

(22:35):
It's like come on we know youwere doing that before you
weren't doing it right, when youwere doing it every day, you
weren't scrubbing.
I've gotten so many argumentswith people where they're like,
yeah, like you don't need to.
I've I've heard this from themouths of many people and I get
look, I was also born here, I'malso american, I guess, but I've

(22:57):
heard this from many peoplesaying that they don't have to
actually put soap on their bodybecause they'll just wash their
hair and they'll just let thesoap and the water just go down.
I hear that all the time too,and it's like you know what
we've noticed, because you smelllike what's inside your
underwear disgusting scrubeverything I know, oh my gosh,

(23:19):
there's even like the debate onloofah or no loofah, look, I
don't care, it could be a like akitchen sponge, whatever it
needs to be, just scrub it Ilike the african sponges, the
african loofahs.

Speaker 2 (23:34):
Have you seen those?
I?

Speaker 1 (23:35):
haven't seen, I don't have one, I have, like the
korean ones.

Speaker 2 (23:39):
Oh, I don't even know what that is, but the african
ones are.
They're like um kind of like arag.

Speaker 1 (23:44):
Like this, bilute one right yeah.

Speaker 2 (23:47):
And then it's there's like the, and then you just
scrub yourself and it's like aloofah, but it's not supposed to
hold bacteria, because you canjust kind of like air dry it
yeah.

Speaker 1 (23:59):
I've actually read that that got debunked about
loofahs that they don't hold asmuch bacteria as people say they
do.

Speaker 2 (24:05):
It's better to use one than not.
That's a fight I have with myboyfriend all the time.
Yeah, get him one.

Speaker 1 (24:13):
Yeah, the Korean ones , like they're just like these
kind of these rags too, and thenthere's like a hole in the
middle so you can like put it inyour hand oh cool, like a
little glove and then scrub andyeah, it's great for like
getting the ears, your all thestuff it's great for like trying
to get rid of, like gettinglike strawberry legs or whatever
.
It's really good for exfoliating.
Yeah, that's the other thing.

(24:35):
If you, if you put your fingerbehind your ear and you like use
your nail to like scratch itand stuff is getting under your
nail you don't know how toshower and you need to watch a
youtube video say a prayer, dosomething, ew.

Speaker 2 (24:50):
But yes, I feel like we need to spread awareness on
this.

Speaker 1 (24:53):
I think more showers are a good thing yeah, and
there's nothing better thansomeone that smells good yeah a
shower a day keeps, keeps thestank away.
Yeah you heard it here firstyeah, there's nothing cute about
having like a little greencloud for all the people around

(25:16):
especially after the gym.

Speaker 2 (25:17):
Going back to that, because, yes, I agree, like
sometimes it's hard to like do afull bot, like a full body,
like wash your hair, like you'rerunning late or whatever, and
that's when dry shampoo forthose emergencies you know, yeah
, it's there, but if you canwash your body, do it, yeah, and

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you should make time for it.

Speaker 1 (25:43):
Self-care, it's important, yeah, yeah, and it's
a self-esteem thing too, right,because, like, you might get
self-conscious if you likeyou're smelling bad, you're
looking bad, it's like nothelping you.
It's true, yeah, I can't, it'sdisgusting.
Also, one thing I learned andthis is like for any postpartum
ladies too, but really anybodythe benzoyl peroxide thing.

(26:05):
You can use that on your pitsand help even more.
Like with the smell, because Imean, I don't know if anyone
else struggles with this, butafter I had kids, like right
after like the postpartum stages, I kind of smelled like onion
and I couldn't get rid of it.
All the hormones, yeah it wassomething nasty.
So I used that and it helped alot because I was using
deodorant and showering and allthe things.

(26:26):
But there was just like thisthis little faint nastiness in
the air an odor that wouldn't goaway.
Yeah, and it was definitely meyeah, there was no way to blame
the husband on that one I tried,could not, but yeah, yeah, I
don't know what it is, I don'tknow if it was like
breastfeeding or something orjust, yeah, hormones, but it was

(26:48):
just yeah.
But the benzoyl peroxide reallyhelped, like, and even now, if
I'm like going through a phasewhere I feel like there's just
more bacteria, I use that andthen I do my regular routine and
then it just like, yeah, smellsgood hey, that's like good,
it's important.

Speaker 2 (27:01):
A good little thing.
The camera camera turned off.
Oh why?
The next thing I want to knowI'm a huge advocate of the
period disc.
I love it and I've been tryingto get Crystal to get on it too.
Yeah, and you tried it on yourlast period, so Bought in

(27:29):
Honestly Good Game changer.

Speaker 1 (27:30):
Game changer right, it really is.
I was talking to my sisterabout this too, because I think
she brought it up at some pointand I kind of disregarded her
because she also tried to get meinto, like, the diva cup.
I hate that.
It sucks, it's terrible.
I couldn't figure it out, itwas messy, I don't know, and so
I kind of disregarded her whenshe said it.
And then I was talking to herabout it, about this, the other
day, and I was like I tried it,but really because you said it

(27:52):
and yeah, it was just great,honestly it's.
It takes a little bit of justkind of figuring out where it's
supposed to go, but once you do,there's a little bit of a
learning curve, like all night,you know, just changed it after
like 12 hours each time orwhatever.
It turned off again.

Speaker 2 (28:11):
Yeah, so stupid all right, keep telling me how much
you love the period disc I loveit.

Speaker 1 (28:21):
It works so well.
Um yeah, so it took me likefive minutes to figure out how
it works, but once I did, it wasgreat.
Honestly, even like and I knowyou mentioned this, but like,
even like my cramps felt betterimmediately.
I think I don't know if it'slike the pressure or something,
but it just really helped.
Yeah, and no leaks, no anything.

Speaker 2 (28:42):
It was really really good yeah and it just like
empties itself out when you goto the bathroom.
It's I know it's beautiful,it's so beautiful.
I think it's like it's one ofthe best like inventions for
women, I know that's everexisted and we needed it I don't
see it.

Speaker 1 (28:57):
I just think about being a kid and just it's
overheating again.
I I don't think it is.

Speaker 2 (29:03):
This is so dumb.
All right.
Our technical difficulties keepgetting in the way of us
talking about this, I know.
Period discs, but we need toget all the girls on it because
it's the best.

Speaker 1 (29:16):
Truly life changing.
It really is.
I feel like some of my mosttraumatizing moments as a
teenager or a young kid was justgetting my period at school and
just like if you're out ofcontrol and whatever and just
not knowing what to do.
That is just such a goodsolution.
It just works really reallywell and just I don't know.

Speaker 2 (29:34):
You don't have to worry about having like tampons
in every purse and everywhereyou go, yeah, you don't have to
worry about like making a messand all the different things.
The best thing is just thecramps, like.
For me it's.
It's like a night and daydifference.
Like a lot of the time I'llstill have like backup tampons.

(29:57):
You know, if I do get my periodand I'm not expecting it or
whatever, and I'll put a tamponin until I can get home and, um,
change it out for the disc.
And it's a huge difference.
I put a tampon in, I I willhave cramps, yeah, and then as
soon as I switch it out, it'slike it's gone, it's fine.

Speaker 1 (30:16):
I had a friend like years ago tell me about the
discs but I just saw a pictureof it and I'm like I don't know
where that goes and I justcompletely dismissed it and my
life could have been so muchbetter these last several years.

Speaker 2 (30:30):
But whatever yeah yeah, well, it's really nice.
Now it's it's all uphill fromhere.

Speaker 1 (30:36):
I recommend it honestly.
Yeah, I was talking to mysister and she was saying like,
yeah, like I, I had to be onthis long flight and it just I
didn't have to worry about it atall, I just put it in and it
was great and I was comfortableand I was like, oh my gosh,
where's that?
Where has that been all, my,all my life?
But no, for real.
Yeah, I bought a bunch.
I'm stocked up forever untilmenopause.

(31:08):
Freaking miracle.
Do you have like, do you usethe disposable ones or did you
get both?
Um, I've only used thedisposable ones so far because I
am intimidated on how to cleanthe other one, but I'm gonna try
that out next time and I'mgonna see it yeah, yeah, just
boil some hot water, just washit out yeah, yeah, I like it, I
love it honestly, it's so nice.
It was just amazing, I'm glad.

Speaker 2 (31:31):
I'm glad you had a good experience, because I was
also worried.
I was like I love it so muchand I've hyped it up so much.
I was like I don't know, likeif you hate it, I'd be surprised
, but I'm not gonna lie.

Speaker 1 (31:44):
When I took it out of the packaging I was like girl,
what do you mean?
I pinch it and then I shovelike where is this going?
Is this just like a slide forthe blood or what?
No, I just have to like did youwatch any?

Speaker 2 (32:00):
did you watch any videos or see like?
I think they have like a littlediagram, like it shows sort of
like your cervix, like how itgoes in?

Speaker 1 (32:09):
and just sits.
It probably would have gonefaster if I had looked at the
picture.
I was just toughing it out andI was just like I'm just, I just
followed your instructions,just eyeballing it.
I mean I couldn't, but I justwas like this seems right, and
then I just did it until itseemed like it was in the right
spot.

Speaker 2 (32:28):
Yeah, yeah, which is yeah, that's, that's how it goes
.

Speaker 1 (32:31):
It was beautiful yeah , being a woman honestly I have
these moments and it just makesme hate men more.

Speaker 2 (32:40):
It's like why yes, but it's fine and you can pee on
the side of the road.
I know.

Speaker 1 (32:48):
You could have.
Let us have like one thing Iknow right, it's messed up they
don't have to carry children.

Speaker 2 (32:55):
They don't have to do anything.

Speaker 1 (32:58):
I'm not going to lie.
I was reading about this awhile ago, but and there's no
like I mean we haven't beenmarried that many years but
there was no moment in my lifewhere I felt more rage for my
husband than when I was likenewly postpartum and it was the
middle of the night and I wastrying to breastfeed, because

(33:18):
that was a whole other journey,and I was just tired with the
baby on my boob and I lookedover and he was snoring and I
was like I understand murder now.
It's like I get it.
I don't think I would do it,but like I get it, but I get it
and no one would even think it'syou, because there's no real
motive.

Speaker 2 (33:37):
You know it's just.
Oh, there's motive.
I was like I take it backsuspect number one.

Speaker 1 (33:44):
And I mean he did do stuff for the baby and all of
that.
But it does suck where it'slike I'm the default for
everything, because my body isthe one that makes the kids, my
body's the one that pushes itout, my body's the one that
feeds them and it's like, yeah,you could have at least like
traded it off or something youknow anyway.
So then pumping I guess helps,because then it's like you know
what you do the nights.

(34:05):
You have the milk, figure itout.
Good night, the milk is nowyours.

Speaker 2 (34:10):
Okay, I saw this one thing that apparently back in
the day, when formula wasn'tlike really a thing, pumping
wasn't really a thing and um,some moms obviously still
couldn't produce milk, orsituations where, like, the mom
died during birth or whateverand the baby still needs the

(34:31):
milk, yeah, the way that theywould um get that milk for the
baby was through a baby goat,and so there's like actual
pictures of like I think it wascalled like a nursing goat, and
there's like pictures of babiesjust like on the teat of a goat.
That's interesting.

(34:51):
I thought I was like whoa, thisis so cool.
And then I told my mom and shedidn't think it was that
interesting I was like this isso cool.

Speaker 1 (35:01):
Honestly, it would be such a perfect moment to then
again roast the guy, becauseit's like the goat can do it.

Speaker 2 (35:07):
This goat is more helpful than you, more of a
parent than you.

Speaker 1 (35:12):
Just roast them.
Honestly, I mean that's crazy,that's interesting.
I mean I only could have likegoat's milk when I was younger,
because I'm lactose intolerant.
Oh really I don't think I'vebeen.
I've never nibbled on the goat'steeth and I've ever nibbled on
the goats, but but your mom gaveyou milk right from her boobies

(35:33):
, I think so up until a certainpoint, but then after that I had
to be up to a certain point.
Yeah, hopefully it's still notwell.
Yeah, well, yeah, but I meanlike I don't think it was long
term.
Yeah, I don't know milkproduction is hard, it's.
Yeah, I don't know Milkproduction is hard, it's tough.
The whole thing is just such afreaking nightmare.

Speaker 2 (35:52):
I hear so many horror stories.
It actually terrifies me, yeah.

Speaker 1 (35:56):
I would hate it.
It was infuriating when I wouldtalk to anybody about it
because it always hurt for meand I didn't do it for very long
because my milk productionsucked.
But it always hurt.
And I would talk to people andthey're like it's not supposed

(36:20):
to hurt and I'm like, okay,thank you.
It's like shut up first off.
It's like lucky you, it's notthe same for everyone.
And guess what?
Like they make you I mean atleast now they make you, see,
like a lact what is it called?
A lactation consultant at thehospital, like when you're
freshly postpartum and she likedid the whole thing.
And she's like, oh yeah, he'snot laughing, he's not wanting
to do it.
It's like, okay, I knew it wasa him problem, not me, I'm doing
what I can.

Speaker 2 (36:41):
So again, a man is the problem, I know again it's
like fine, yeah, no crazy.
Yeah, people are such jerksabout everything with moms, but
yeah, that's insane no, my, Iwas talking to my sisters-in-law
the other day about how umtheir kids when their kids
started getting teeth and theywere still breastfeeding hell,

(37:06):
nah, that's crazy.
I honestly like I never got thatfar with my kids, but they like
would still, even with the gumsyeah, it's like I know I was
like like it hurts, just likeI've never gone through it, but
it hurts just thinking about it.

Speaker 1 (37:25):
Somebody like biting your nipple and even just from
the suction and it gets like rawyeah.
And so if they're biting on topof it, it's like, and it's
insane because, like you talk,yeah, no, women have, so have it
so bad.
It's crazy because then youtalk to the doctor and they're
like, oh, that's normal, you canbuy this like little, like
stainless steel little platething and then put like olive

(37:46):
oil in your nipple and then putthat olive plate on top of your
nipple and I'm like, why are wedoing this, this?

Speaker 2 (37:51):
sucks.
I know we need like a perioddisc for this situation like
there needs to be a bettersolution.

Speaker 1 (37:59):
I know most people are like formula, but just give
up, I know, seriously.
Yeah, honestly, pumping hurtless than breastfeeding.
So I did that for a bit, butit's still annoying because you
have to like pump every likeevery other hour for an hour and

(38:19):
then you're just connected to amachine or like every other
hour at first because you'retrying to like, stimulate the,
like the milk to come in, oh mygosh.
So like you're not sleepingbecause you're either with the
baby or you're pumping.
And then people are like, canwe come visit?
And it's like no.

Speaker 2 (38:34):
It's like, respectfully, am I either
sleeping or pumping.

Speaker 1 (38:37):
Yeah, it's the worst, yeah, but it's fine.
I mean it's worth it, but it'scrazy.

Speaker 2 (38:43):
Is there any?
They should have like a pumpingthing that you can pump while
sleeping.
You know it's like connected toyou, that's.

Speaker 1 (38:51):
I mean, I'm so naive, but I thought the one that you
put in your bra that you coulddo that, but you can't.
It leaks out.

Speaker 2 (38:59):
If you lay down?

Speaker 1 (39:00):
Yeah, you can't lay down with it because it leaks
out.
You have to be sitting up inorder for it to do the section
and whatever.
And yeah, I, the first time Ilike laid down because I was so
tired, yeah, just leaked allover me, which is so much sadder
because it's like you're stillfeeling like the pain of the
pump or like just the milk, andthen losing the milk is like the
most.
I don't know how to explain it.

Speaker 2 (39:21):
it's like all that work.
Yeah, and it's like, and, fromwhat I understand, when you like
, you don't, there's not thatmuch milk that comes from it.
Right, like you get like.

Speaker 1 (39:39):
Some people get a lot , but I never did, Honestly,
like the most when I wasproducing, like the most I would
get like two ounces at a timeper boob and it's like after 45
minutes of pumping and it's sothen, and that it happened a
couple times where, like, I wasmoving it to a different bottle
and then it spilled and it'slike it's like an hour's worth
of work.

Speaker 2 (39:54):
It's so sad it's so sad, oh my gosh.
Yeah that that.
That would be frustratingfreaking men.
Yeah, you don't see themoffering.
Actually, you do see themoffering up their body, but for
a much different part of theprocess.

Speaker 1 (40:13):
I'm telling you it's not fair, it's so rude.
Yeah, honestly, and I mean, andmy husband is so sweet, but I
definitely got so like so muchrage towards him because of that
, definitely got so like so muchrage towards him because of
that, because I'm like, I hatethis, like you, I will can't

(40:34):
even contribute more if youtried, it's so annoying, I will
100.

Speaker 2 (40:39):
I'd like be the same.
I'm sure I'm gonna be sorationally mad, oh I was
irrationally mad.

Speaker 1 (40:49):
Definitely the person at the hospital pushing me like
you did this to me.
You ever.
This is your fault.

Speaker 2 (40:57):
Uh, yeah, you know, yeah, it's all fun and games, um
.
But that reminds me I wasreading this, um, I think it was
like a tiktok thread sort ofthing.
That was, um, what's the nicestthing a man has ever done for
you?
What's the kindest thing a manhas ever done for you?

Speaker 1 (41:19):
and I thought we're turning this around.
It's like now we're gonna benice to them.
It got too dark, okay, yeahyeah we're, we're, we're
bringing it back.

Speaker 2 (41:28):
Okay, I respect it I mean anything else you want to
say before, before we turn thisaround no, I'm on board the
floor is always open to trash onthem don't get me wrong no, but
I was actually like I actuallyteared up when I was reading the
comments, because it was likepeople were like um, I think my

(41:51):
favorite one was my.
I was driving, I was movingaway and I was on a road trip
moving my stuff and my car brokedown and I was really like
freaking out and he drove over athousand miles to meet me and
help me move my stuff.

(42:11):
Um, I love you, dad.
Like, rest in peace.
It was like the cutest.
Like I was like oh my gosh, I'mjust like 2 am I'm crying to my
bed over this, like strangerstory, but it was it.
Everything was about their dads, though, you know, and I was
like I, that wasn't like theintention of the post, yeah.

(42:32):
So I was like that's actuallyso sweet, that is sweet.
Yeah, that's awesome, I know.
I was like all these girlscommenting on like the stuff
that their dad had done for them.

Speaker 1 (42:45):
And I was like that's really cute.
Think about that that.
Do you have any stories, anygood ones, to share?

Speaker 2 (42:52):
I'm like my poor dad, I can't think of it.
I'll step up.

Speaker 1 (42:57):
Dad, you gotta step up um, try to think if I have
any.
Um.
Um, poor dad.
No, I'm sure they've done greatstuff.
Well, I do have one.
My dad has.
He always had like this guitar.
While we were growing up, hebought it at some point I don't

(43:19):
know if it was like when he wasdating my mom or when they were
first married.
He had it for like a few yearsand we weren't allowed to touch
it and he would play for usthough all the time, but he just
wanted to make sure that weweren't gonna break it, because
we were gonna probably hadtouched it.
Um, anyway, but at some point Ithink I was like 15, 14, 15, I
don't know I decided I was gonnalearn how to play it and I

(43:41):
wanted to like surprise him, butI like didn't have a guitar, so
I was using the one I wasn'tsupposed to.
Um, and he caught me a coupletimes and he was totally fine
with it and he was like soexcited that I was wanting to
learn.
And then, before I left forcollege, uh, well, at some point
he bought me my own guitar andthen, before I left for college,
we swapped guitars, so I got tokeep the one that he had

(44:02):
forever.

Speaker 2 (44:03):
I still have it that was really sweet that is so
sweet.
Does he miss it ever?

Speaker 1 (44:08):
I don't know.
I did like at some pointbetween like moving from like
student housing and whatnot, itlike bumped a little bit and
like so there's like a littlecrack on it.
So he saw it at some point.
He was like oh, what happened?
I'm like, I'm so sorry.

Speaker 2 (44:21):
He's like it's fine, it's like it's almost 30 years
old, but it's a really nice oneand it works really well.
But an heirloom, that's sosweet, that's cute.
Yeah, that's a cute story therewas also.
This one was less liking my Ican think of stuff that's like

(44:43):
not.
Like there was one time I gotstranded in Brazil.
I like it was my visa stuffwasn't getting figured out, yeah
, and when it finally did, thisis gonna sound like so stupid.
But my dad surprised me withlike first class tickets back to
the US, which I like I'd neverflown first class, yeah, and so

(45:07):
I thought that was the coolestthing.
I mean that is really that'sawesome, that's a gift, that's
an expensive gift.

Speaker 1 (45:12):
That's nice.
Yeah, that's sweet.
Honestly, that is very, verynice I know, I.

Speaker 2 (45:20):
After that I was like I, this is the luxury travel
like I could.
I would never complain abouttraveling.
If I was traveling, yeah, firstclass every time, you know yeah
, you just have like your littlecorner.

Speaker 1 (45:32):
I, I don't know, I don't know if I've flown first
class.
I think I did like executiveonce, it was something like that
I was flying to brazil.

Speaker 2 (45:39):
Okay, that's my yeah, I was gonna say that's.

Speaker 1 (45:42):
I think that it was like a business, really nice,
yeah, yeah um, I was flying bymyself for the first time, going
to Brazil to visit, and my dadsurprised me with like first
class or executive tickets tooto go down.
And because I was so scared andhe was like maybe I'll be less
scared if it's this, and I wasdistracted by the luxury, I

(46:04):
wasn't even afraid anymore.

Speaker 2 (46:05):
I was like I could do this all day and every time you
travel now you have to pretendyou're scared and I've upgraded
to a different level ofbroadness that, like nothing
below this will do.

Speaker 1 (46:17):
It is very nice just getting to fully lay down.
I had never done fully lay down, you're out like the whole
flight.

Speaker 2 (46:26):
Yeah, you have this nice little like big enough tv
that you can actually see what'sgoing on there's nobody like
smushing you neck.

Speaker 1 (46:34):
You know like we're just farting it up the whole
flight.
Yeah, I've been in somesituations like it's also like a
12-hour flight to brazil andit's like, can you just?

Speaker 2 (46:46):
it's like a whole day .
Yeah no, I've been in someflights that are just like, oh,
like I don't know I you're onthe brink of survival.
You're just like I don't knowhow I'm gonna make like another
five, like make it throughanother five hours of this, when
it's already been like 10 I Iknow, just like sitting there, I

(47:07):
have to get myself to fallasleep, otherwise I go insane.
Mm-hmm, I have a whole, like Ihave a whole system to my
traveling now, have you, haveyou ever tried muscle?

Speaker 1 (47:18):
relaxers I did.
They gave me some when I waspregnant.
It was amazing.
I was on a cloud.
They're amazing.

Speaker 2 (47:30):
Like the one the patches, patches, the ones have
you?
Oh no, they gave me a pill, apill.
I've never tried a pill I've.
Somebody gave me these patcheswhich, honestly, I don't even
know if I don't even know if youcan buy that over the counter.
But it was this.
This guy gave them to me and,in a dark alley, sounds legit,
um and no, but it was literallysuch a game changer.
I, on my flight, I was going toAsia, I was going to Indonesia

(47:55):
or something, and I just putthat on, like my back and
anywhere.
That like felt a littleuncomfortable and it just like
relaxed me so much.

Speaker 1 (48:09):
It felt like a first class experience.
I need it.
I need it for my sciatica so Ican go to bed at night.
A muscle relaxer, that's.

Speaker 2 (48:15):
There's no name on the patches.
I I have some.
I can look at the name.
I can give you one too.
Oh, tell me I wanna, and yeah,they're and yeah they're.

Speaker 1 (48:31):
They were so amazing.
I like I had a fall when I waspregnant, like I didn't like hit
the belly or anything, but Imessed up my pelvic bone and
they gave me muscle relaxers andoxy and they told me to take it
together.
Yeah, I was so comfortable.
I felt like I was laying downon a cloud and I actually was
able to sleep.

Speaker 2 (48:48):
Yeah, you were on Oxy .
I didn't know you could takethat while you were pregnant.
I didn't either.

Speaker 1 (48:54):
but they had given me postpartum before, but no, not
one.
What happened now?
Did I die?
Yeah, do you want to justfinish it with the audio?

Speaker 2 (49:09):
yeah, okay, um, anyway, but that was fantastic

(49:29):
well, yeah.
So even with well, I bet likethe pill would be really nice
too.
A muscle relaxing pill, yeah,because it probably relaxes like
your whole body yeah whereas,like the patch, is more
concentrated.

Speaker 1 (49:42):
Concentrated one that sounds really nice, though,
when you buy me some, thatsounds amazing.

Speaker 2 (49:46):
Oh my gosh it on.
Yeah, I just put it on my back.
I have, like my compressionsocks, a mask Fully prepped.
Oh, fully prepped.

Speaker 1 (49:57):
That sounds very doable, honestly.

Speaker 2 (49:58):
Yeah, my melatonin gummies.
I have to take some.

Speaker 1 (50:05):
All kinds of gummies.

Speaker 2 (50:06):
All kinds of gummies honestly, I wonder, I wonder I
wonder that's probably a trip.

Speaker 1 (50:16):
I'd probably get arrested or something, just
because I probably would panicor something.
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (50:21):
Yeah, I don't, yeah, I don't know enough about
getting high to know how thatwould be on an airplane, if it
would make it a betterexperience or a more miserable
experience, because you'realready high.

Speaker 1 (50:37):
Ba-doom, ba-doom.
Yeah, I don't know.
I wonder what it's like.
That's crazy.

Speaker 2 (50:43):
Yeah, Something worth trying though.
Yeah, I think it's a bucketlist item for sure Gotta do it
at least once.

Speaker 1 (50:48):
Yeah, but Something worth trying though.
Yeah, I think it's a bucketlist item.
For sure Gonna do it at leastonce, yeah.

Speaker 2 (50:56):
Yeah, that's so funny .
Okay, something I have notwatched at all but is all the
hype right now, and I know thatyou've watched it is the secret
lives of mormon wives.
Yes, and I want to know whatyour thoughts are on it I was
entertained, honestly.

Speaker 1 (51:15):
I made josh watch it with me.
We watched the whole thing made.

Speaker 2 (51:20):
I know men, I know, I know I had to force him like
the first 10 minutes and thenthe rest.

Speaker 1 (51:25):
He's like who does she think she is?
I'm like yeah, boy, yeah youlike.

Speaker 2 (51:30):
You go to change the channel.
He's like what are you doing?

Speaker 1 (51:33):
like do you want something else?

Speaker 2 (51:34):
oh, I'm okay with this this is okay, this is fine.

Speaker 1 (51:37):
I mean, if you really want to.
It's okay with me.
Yeah, he was butted, it was.
It was good.
Honestly, like, did you everwatch the first season?

Speaker 2 (51:46):
no, I didn't.
I've seen a lot of stuff ontikt so I know like the gist of
a lot of it.

Speaker 1 (51:50):
But One thing that just drives me crazy and I think
it's so funny.
So you know the original likeswinger scandal, right, it was
like the three girls Like Ithink it's Camille, miranda and
Taylor, Like the original, likemom talk people.
Like mom talk people.
Yes, I know taylor and miranda,I actually don't know who.

(52:11):
Camille she's like the thirdgirl that was always in like the
first few videos with him.
She wasn't a part of the umswinger scandal, but she was a
part of like the original, likemom talk or whatever that blew
up.
Okay, um, and then there wereall these like random girls that
they would bring in for thedances and whatever, but they
weren't really mom talk.
They were just like no onereally cared who the other girls
were, they didn't have as bigof a following and and like it's

(52:32):
not like I despise them, but Ijust thought it was really
annoying because when the showcame out, people were thinking
or at least I was thinking thatit was going to be about the
swinger thing and the originalmom talk people but only taylor
was a part of it.
Yeah, and so all these otherpeople are just like they only
have a show because of her.
Yeah, so obviously, like peopletune in to watch taylor and

(52:55):
then like they didn't know whothe other people were and then
maybe got to know them, yeah.
But then in season two theybring out miranda, the other
girl that was a part of theoriginal thing, and then these
women are like, why does shewant to be a part of it now,
like what are her intentions?
And it's like shut up, youwould not be here without her.
Almost like no one cares aboutyou.
I don't know what your name islike.

(53:16):
Literally, the original girlsare the ones that are popular.
I just thought it was so funny.
Yeah, what are the intentions?
It's like one make money, let's.

Speaker 2 (53:24):
This is not the bachelor no, I know nobody's
trying to pretend.
Nobody is even gonna buy intothe pretense that you're not in
that.

Speaker 1 (53:33):
You're in this for the right reasons and it's like
you're not in it for thefriendship because y'all hate on
each other and you're terriblefriends to each other, right
like what?

Speaker 2 (53:42):
what other reason is there possibly to be on this
show?
Tell me like literally it's,it's insane they're all chasing
money which, honestly, I don'teven.
No judgment if, like that, thatis the reason to do it.
I would if I had theopportunity to make like
millions of dollars off of likebeing on a reality tv show my

(54:06):
price is not even that high.

Speaker 1 (54:09):
A free dinner, honestly yeah, I mean, I totally
understand that but it's alsolike you guys would not.
No one would care if it wasn'tfor these original girls and so
they're like being really meanto her just for a few episodes.
But still I was like, and shewas taking it so humbly and I
could never.
I would have been like, who areyou?

(54:29):
And that's why you should be onthat.
I don't know if I have thepatience, because I would just
be like shut up and then wewouldn't have a recording,
because some of the things theywere fighting about, too, were
so you would.

Speaker 2 (54:44):
You would make good tv.
I think interesting.

Speaker 1 (54:47):
You would come at them, you would snap back and
then I would just drive home andleave them to look at, just I'm
just gonna unpin this grenade,just throw it in, and then that
that would be like yourcharacters, like mo, you just
come in, you say a few words andyou leave.

Speaker 2 (55:05):
I know, and it's always just a shot of like your
car driving away my biggestcontribution is leaving the
conversation.

Speaker 1 (55:13):
Yeah, I honestly, and I mean maybe it triggered a
reaction, so maybe they're doingtheir jobs right, but I just
annoyed me so much and Ihonestly maybe they didn't do a
good job because, honestly, forthe first few episodes I just
wanted to skip through thatbecause it's like this is
nonsense and also like, if youguys are all about promoting
women, supporting women orwhatever, wouldn't it be such a

(55:35):
better story like she had justgotten a divorce, she has a
single mom, she's tiktok famousor whatever.
She's original, she's part ofthe original group.
Wouldn't it be such a betterstory to be like oh my gosh,
we're so're so happy that you'rejoining us, yeah, and that
you're part of this.
Let's get to know you.
Oh no, but instead it was likeand I know that it's not
supposed to be all about likefriendships and rainbows and
whatever the freaking likebraiding each other's hair.

(55:57):
I get that it has to be alittle spicy, but it just made
you like.
It made't for the originalpeople.
They started this 100, like 99of you weren't a part of the
swinger scandal and that's whatpeople were curious about.

Speaker 2 (56:12):
I honestly I hate it when, um, there's that the the
fake women supporting womenthing like theme that a lot, of,
a lot of things try to be yeah,but they're not.
You know, yeah, especially likein a I even saw somebody else

(56:35):
commenting on it how everypossible thing that each girl
wanted and needed support onthey were bashed by the other
girls so harsh, you know, yeah,and it's like okay, where's,
where is the women supportingwomen in any of this like?

Speaker 1 (56:56):
and I think it's interesting because, like there
would be drama regardless, right, because friendships are
difficult and like if you havedifferent backgrounds or
whatever.
But I think it would just be somuch more interesting for them
to have productive conversationsand like work through issues
and talk about real things.
I think that's just morecompelling at this point Because
it's like everyone's just sotired of the same, like washed
out, like same petty, annoyingdrama.

(57:18):
Like sometimes being petty, I'mokay with that, but like all
the time it's like I'm bored.
Yeah, because it's the samescript, different show, yeah.
Board yeah, because it's thesame script, different show,
yeah, and yeah.
But there were some other thingsthat were kind of interesting.
So in the first season there'sthis one girl.
Supposedly she's like the mostmormon out of all of them, but
and again, like I'm gonna soundjudgmental, I'm not, but like

(57:42):
everyone chooses to live, youknow, in the church differently.
That's totally fine, but Ithink it's so funny because they
pick one of the girls as likethe most like saintly girl, and
she's still like she'd be.
She would be considered verymuch rebellious on every part of
the book, but whatever, anyway,she's married to this guy and

(58:03):
they do definitely depict themormon church in a very um I I
think wrong light but yeah, insome ways it's bad, in some ways
it's good.
I feel like I I appreciate likea more modern, modern, more like
free-spirited way of like youdo what works for you.

(58:23):
But I appreciate that and Ithink there should be more of
that yeah, I do think, I justwonder.
I just I guess what I mean islike I don't think that the way
they live truly reflects whatthe mormon church at least,
tries to be a hundred percentand I don't know how things are
now, but I feel like if I wasdoing one percent of what any of

(58:44):
these girls do, at least how wegrew up, we would be in the
bishop's office like every weekand we would be considered
rebellious, like not obedientdifficult.
So it's just interesting howand I don't know how they're
perceived or how things aregoing or whatever, but I just
think it's interesting toportray, portray it that way
because I feel like it wouldnever be accepted, at least in

(59:06):
the framework that I know thechurch, but that's a whole other
that's a whole other can ofworms but there's this one girl.
She's married to this guyapparently.
He's like super, supertraditional, and so is his, so
is his family, and she and thegirls go to vegas.
And this happens again in thefirst season oh yeah, I remember
you've heard of that.
Okay, yes they go, they take herto chippendales or whatever.

(59:27):
I didn't know what.
It was.
Funny enough josh did so.
He explained it to me.
But yeah, so they went, tookher and then her husband was
like really awful, to her center.
All this message is like Idon't love you anymore.
All these different things ohlike really really harsh, like
your terrible mother and he, andin the same breath he was in

(59:48):
vegas too, but gambling inanother building and it's like
all right what so the, the, whatwas it?

Speaker 2 (59:57):
chips and dale chip, chip and dales, chip and dales.
Is that like a strip club?

Speaker 1 (01:00:03):
it's a?
I don't think it's a full stripclub, I think it's just like a
show and they're basicallystripping down.
I don't think it's a full stripclub, I think it's just like a
show and they're basicallystripping down.
I don't know if it's all theway down, but kind of like a
magic mic sort of thing, I think.
So that's my understanding,okay, but anyway.
But I guess I'll ask what areyour thoughts on that, because I
had a big debate with joshabout her going to yeah, like

(01:00:27):
whether that's okay or not, oryeah that in comparison to him
gambling um, I just like thedynamic, like what do you think
of her going?

Speaker 2 (01:00:36):
and like the blow up that it generated from her
spouse um, I feel like it's thekind of thing that, first off I
don't know if I fully understandthe scope of the chippendale
thing I feel like, if it's, ifit's just like one show that

(01:00:56):
she's going to, it's not thatbig of a deal yeah um, um.
But also if it's something thattheir lifestyle and them as a
couple they've agreed that theywouldn't do things like that,
yeah, which I feel like iscontext that we may not be privy

(01:01:19):
to, and I don't know if thateven is an applicable context.
Maybe they've never even hadconversations about it.
But if that is a kind of thingthat they've agreed not to do
and then she goes and does it,then I would have a problem with
it.

Speaker 1 (01:01:32):
Yeah no, I agree, I was talking to josh about it and
I was like, well, first off, Iwas explaining I don't know
explaining to him, I guess, whatthe girl perspective of his of
it is too, because like a guygoing to the strip club, he's
getting a boner, whatever it isyou know what I mean a girl.
It's like we're going morelaughing yeah, because it's
hysterical, we're not gettingturned on.
It's more like funny.

(01:01:53):
Yeah, I was trying to explainto him with that experience.
It's like, not that I've doneit, but it's just like I can
only even just seeing it on tv.
I was like it's not like I'mdrooling, it's like this is
ridiculous.
Yeah, and maybe that'sdisrespectful to the profession,
I don't know, but it's justlike a different vibe.

Speaker 2 (01:02:10):
It's a different kind of entertaining yeah, you're
not going there to like get off.

Speaker 1 (01:02:14):
You're like going there to have like a fun time
with your friends and justgiggle and just be like, yeah,
maybe he's hot, but it's notlike getting a reaction on my
body for it, it's just likeother than this is funny right
right anyway.
So I was talking to him aboutthat.
But also I totally agree, and Ithink some of the other girls
definitely have a differentdynamic with their spouse where,

(01:02:34):
like their, their spouses aretotally fine with them going to
stuff like that because they'vetalked about it, and I think
that's fine.
If you guys have agreed thatthat, you know, is not a
boundary, I I agree that that'sfine.
But, like I also do agree thateven though you might have
different perspectives orwhatever, if you've talked to
your spouse about it and you'veagreed together to not do it, I
think it's a betrayal to go anddo it In the situation she was

(01:02:57):
kind of tricked into going byher friends, but she could have
left, you know, if that wassomething that they had agreed
on.

Speaker 2 (01:03:02):
Just because and again, it's a different
situation, but like I would havean issue with my husband if he
went with strip club orsomething, oh that would be a
different situation altogether,but also, like we've agreed that
that's not something that we do, right.

Speaker 1 (01:03:15):
So, but also it's not the type of thing that you
would send each other texting Idon't love you anymore, or
whatever no sitting down likehey, this is the boundary we set
, yeah, and you crossed it.

Speaker 2 (01:03:25):
And like I want to understand why yeah, and I do
honestly and I'm okay withgetting like hate for this, but
I feel like that is the kind ofenvironment and the kind of
activity that, out of respect toyour spouse, you should check
in with them.
Like, hey, would you be okaywith me going to and like not in
front of your other people.

Speaker 1 (01:03:44):
It's like a private conversation so you're not like
coercing them into a situationthey don't want.
Yeah, totally with me going toand like not in front of your
other people.
It's like a privateconversation, so you're not like
coercing them into a situationthey don't want.
Yeah, totally, and I agreebecause I would expect the same
respect back.
Yeah, anyway, but also I don'tappreciate like some of the
other girls in the group beinglike, well, he has to be okay
with it and it's like no one hasto be okay with anything Like

(01:04:06):
consent goes all the ways.
You know, everyone gets toagree to things on their own
terms.

Speaker 2 (01:04:13):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, he, the reaction, I.
It's like the kind of thing Isee, I feel like I see this
happen a lot between couples,where it's like one person does
something that isn't okay, youknow, within the context of the
relationship, or like one personis kind of in the wrong, but

(01:04:34):
then the other person, the waythey react, puts them in the
wrong as well, you know, and soit's like both people are in the
wrong and then you're like uh,but neither one of you are
really right, you guys aren'tcommunicating or there's
something missing.
But and that kind of feels likeit fits into this where his

(01:04:56):
reaction to the situationdoesn't help him in any way,
like yeah, no, I agree.

Speaker 1 (01:05:03):
And I think like it seems like she's like not okay
with the gambling and he wasgoing and doing that.
So it's like you know, we'reall crossing boundaries and so
you have to have a conversation.
Anyway, they went throughtherapy, I don't know all that
went on, but like in the secondseason there's like a halloween
party and then these two girlsfrom the group make their
husbands dress like thechippendale people they fly in a

(01:05:26):
stripper from or a performerfrom them, and then they put her
on this.
Well, they asked her hey, we'regonna, we're thinking of doing
this, having the men danceduring the Halloween party.
And she's like, oh, that's cool, like I think you know that
sounds fun.
But then at the party they puther on the seat and then had the

(01:05:47):
men dance on her and then theybasically were flipping on her
saying she had agreed to that,but and they showed the footage
but they she very clearlyclearly agreed to having them
dance there at a party that'snot a party she's throwing and
like making it seem like she'sgonna be okay with it.
She didn't agree to anybodylike dancing on her, yeah, and

(01:06:08):
so it was just kind of a crazydynamic too, and it had only
been a few months, and it's like, okay, this couple is in
therapy, but they have notworked through this.
Yeah, now you're putting them onthe spot and having your
husband's dance on her like evil, right, and then they were just
trying to defend it like oh,it's like exposure therapy or
whatever.
And I'm like who?
You're not her therapist?

(01:06:29):
And like I get that you'retrying to make a show, but I
feel like this is too far.
Like these are real people andthey're married and they have
kids Like, and they have stuffto like work through.
But like why would you like tryto like throw a grenade in
their relationship?
I just thought it was so toxic.
And they were like defending itbecause they're like well, you
have, they have to be, he has tobe okay with it, and it's like

(01:06:50):
he doesn't have to be okay withanything.
If they agree as a couple.
That's not something.
And I'm not saying likeobviously she has to feel
comfortable too in the whateverthey agree on.
Yeah, but if they togetheragree that that's not something
that they're gonna do.
You should respect that.
That's okay.
Like that's a choice too.
Everyone gets a choice.
I just thought it was reallyannoying and they were just
trying to like start shiz whichI I guess for the show.

(01:07:10):
But it was also like, if thisis real at all, like you guys
are bad friends, yeah, like, whywould you ever, especially when
you know like they're goingthrough therapy?

Speaker 2 (01:07:21):
they're working through this.

Speaker 1 (01:07:23):
Yeah, it's definitely you're trying to get a reaction
or a fight out of them.
Uh-huh, that's the only reasonyou would do that.
It's a very bad look for them.
Yeah, I thought it was reallyannoying.
Yeah, anyway, there's a lot Icould skip through.
There was some nonsense, butessentially, like the last bit
of it is this one girl, thisrando, trying to kick out taylor
from the group, saying tryingto become the leader and and

(01:07:46):
like I think it's real, becauseshe seems annoying as hell is it
?
the me, yeah, girl, and the girlfrom this first season.
This is the other thing thatreally pissed me off, and again,
it might be all fake, but inthe first season whitney was
like the mean girl.
She was like starting stuff andkind of annoying, and so she
got kicked out of the groupbasically.
And so then the season twoshe's trying to come back in and

(01:08:10):
so the way that she does it isshe kind of like makes
friendships with the newerpeople on the side and this Demi
person and tries to be broughtin and they try to like vote her
in at some point, or she asksthem to vote her in and no one
says yes, except Taylor, and shesays I think she deserves a
second chance, like Taylor.
And she says I think shedeserves a second chance, like I
think she's, you know, shewants to be here.
And then later in the season,as this Demi girl is being super

(01:08:32):
evil trying to kick Taylor out,whitney sides with this Demi
girl and like yeah, we shouldget Taylor off and it's like,
wow, you're a bad person.

Speaker 2 (01:08:41):
I just think it's so funny that they're like voting
each other out out of like momtalk, or out of what?

Speaker 1 (01:08:48):
out of?
Yeah, I guess out of mom talkout of the show.
They were trying to get herkicked out of the show and I
know it sounds really stupidbecause it is but also it's like
they're trying to get her likethe semantics or whatever when
you get into it.
They're trying to get her likefired right, she's not getting
another deal for, which is likemessed up.

Speaker 2 (01:09:05):
But I wonder how much ?
Yeah, but I wonder how muchlike, how much that actually
like, does it?

Speaker 1 (01:09:12):
yeah, because at the end of the day, doesn't it come
down to just like what theproducers choose and like if
this is giving context to likedrama, and then this is they
need a villain, yeah, and thenthe best villain would be
somebody who's trying to get Ithink so, but I think in her
head she was making taylor thevillain, because she was like

(01:09:33):
trying to say all these thingsabout her and whatever, and
paint this picture of her and I,I don't know my.
My take on reality tv is thatlike it's really produced, but
it's like usually like people'sreal colors tend to come out and
because it's triggering likereal emotions, but so that's
kind of how it came across to me, like she was just like she had

(01:09:54):
an opportunity to maybe havelike a bigger contract next time
.
If she like makes her seem badenough that like she shouldn't
have an audience or a platformand I was like shut up Again.
It's like who are you?
Everyone watches it because ofher, like right, and it's set
aside because towards the end,like the all the girls are like
kind of like seeing how meanthis girl is being and they're
like no, I don't agree with that.

(01:10:14):
We shouldn't kick her out.
Like you know, she didn't doanything bad.
She like posted a petty thing.
She got invited to host thislike ama thing, this award thing
, taylor, taylor, that okay.
And then, like no onecongratulated, congratulated her
on her post from the group Idon't know, within like a day,
which again, super petty.

(01:10:34):
So she posted a story saying Ifeel like they need real
problems.
I know they have, like some.
There's definitely some thingsthat are real but yeah, they.
She posted a story saying likewhen no, no one from mom talk
like congratulates you, and Iguess some people went and like
messaged these other girls beinglike you guys are bad friends
and so that was the reason she'strying to get her kick off

(01:10:56):
kicked off because she's likeimpulsive and mean and all these
different things, when it'slike it was petty but it was
stupid and also no one wastalking about you guys, and then
she did that and then somepeople were like wow, that was
petty, and started talking aboutyou guys again.
Yeah, it like makes it relevant, uh-huh, so like, and that's
what she does all the time.
It's like petty or silly orimpulsive things and that's why

(01:11:17):
people like her, because it'slike a little dramatic, it's not
crazy she gives the people justenough controversy yeah anyway.
So they were like trying toframe her as like a bad person
because she did that, becauseshe has so many followers and
she sent her minions to likehate on the other girls and it's
like, girl, be real.

Speaker 2 (01:11:35):
She got engagement on your page and like who cares
and you're getting the moneyfrom it.
I know, yeah.
See, my take on reality TV isjust usually that it's just all
fake.
I have?

Speaker 1 (01:11:48):
yeah, and it might be .
Yeah, I think they get like paypeople to act a certain way and
emphasize other things to thenstart the pot, like one of the
girls was struggling withfertility and then the other one
definitely got paid to bring inlike pregnancy tests so they
could do pregnancy roulette andthey knew two of the girls were
pregnant to get the other girlto cry yeah, have you watched?

Speaker 2 (01:12:08):
I think we might have talked about this.
Uh, what was it called unreal?
I think that's what it's calledand ever since watching that, I
like obviously that is not real, but it just to me.
After watching it, I I was likeI I think that is probably a
lot of what reality tv isactually like, where everything

(01:12:32):
is just like highly produced andhighly edited edited it did too
yeah, um, I agree which, yeah,but like I get the entertainment
value of reality tv becauseit's still like, it's still
something Triggers emotions.

(01:12:54):
Yeah triggers emotions and it'slike everything else is fake too
.
Yeah, but I do get so annoyedwith people the people that I
see that debate it so heavily orget watching it.
They get like so so invested inwho's right and who's wrong
when it's like, honestly,probably at the end of the day

(01:13:15):
they are all just laughing at usbecause we're buying in to
whatever like drama they'recurating totally.

Speaker 1 (01:13:24):
I think the.
I don't really know how itworks, but it almost seems to me
like a couple, a few people getpaid to do certain things in
certain situations and there's afew people that are not in the
know and then they become thevictims in the in that take or
whatever, and so that's how youget, like, some of the reactions
that here and there that arereal, but there's definitely a
lot of things that are fake, Idon't know.

(01:13:44):
There's also okay this.
This is unrelated, but I feltlike this was so exploitive and
I guess exploitative or howeveryou say it, and I know that she
agreed to it but there's thisone girl who she got like
sexually abused when she wasyounger and they made her like
do a therapy session that theyrecorded and put it on the show
in season two.
I thought that was such a likepoor taste.

Speaker 2 (01:14:06):
yeah that it was like I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:14:09):
Like in my brain I'm like how did they rationalize
this?
Like maybe they're trying tomake people feel more
comfortable.
Maybe people, like that, feargoing into therapy.
They want to like normalizethat setting for people or
something but it's also like Ijust felt dirty, I just felt so
uncomfortable it's like aninvasion of privacy.

Speaker 2 (01:14:29):
It feels like yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:14:31):
Yeah, it's just never appropriate and I feel like
it's not done very much becauseof that, because it doesn't land
.
It doesn't land well.

Speaker 2 (01:14:37):
Because it is like you're trying to.

Speaker 1 (01:14:38):
you're trying, you're using a very sensitive topic
and a very sensitive setting topromote like an entertainment
show, show you know like,because yeah, yeah also doesn't
make sense to me to be like thissuper petty drama, whatever
show, but then try to like, flipto like let's talk about these

(01:15:01):
really serious topics, aboutthese people's lives, and then
like let's do a therapy session.
It just felt like, so, not thecontext, yeah, it's like this
was not pitched by the sameperson that was pitching
everything else, and then itjust was.
Yeah, I did not land, I justfelt really uncomfortable by
that and like there's otherthings that they've shared that
I feel like are maybe toopersonal, but if the person's

(01:15:23):
okay with it, it's fine, liketalking about infertility.
Or there was like another girlthat was talking about like she
lost a boyfriend, like in a caraccident when they were in
college or whatever like that'dbe tough.
Yeah, like some really liketough situations, but it's been
a few years.
They've worked through it, butthey're talking about it and
it's like relatable andinteresting and makes you care

(01:15:45):
about the person or thecharacter because you see the
layers.
But like the therapy session,yeah, like this is weird yeah,
yeah also, because it's it'stherapy.

Speaker 2 (01:15:55):
You know, you're not just talking about what, like,
what happened, you're likediving deep into a person's like
psyche.
You know, yeah, which I guess Ididn't see it, so I don't know
fully like how?

Speaker 1 (01:16:07):
mostly like surface level, but it was still.
It was like at one point thetherapist was like, which I feel
like as a therapist, you shouldnever agree to be on tv like
this, that's what I was gonnasay.

Speaker 2 (01:16:18):
I wonder you should know better.
I wonder what if it likeactually is a real therapist, or
if it was just like a?

Speaker 1 (01:16:26):
but it may be, I don't know, but she like tells
her, like to talk to her.
The therapist as the abuser,like what would you say to him?
And it's like this we shouldnot be here for this.

Speaker 2 (01:16:36):
Like this is this feels inappropriate and like
yeah, I feel like it would havebeen like in better taste for if
they, if they wanted to includethis like storyline in the
episode for her to be talking toone of her friends and tell her
about the experience of goingto therapy.
I agree, rather than the actualtherapy session.

Speaker 1 (01:17:00):
Or even like I feel like there's certain topics that
we don't get to know about, weshouldn't know about.
Like you can know, maybe surfacelevel, if she's okay to share
that, but like't know very muchabout um, or it should be shared
in a different way, I don'tknow, but I feel like it would
have made more sense at leastfor like the theme of the show,
how they go to like these, theypromote all these different

(01:17:22):
things.
Like it would be cool to see herlike working with a charity or
like some work that she's doingto help other people that have
gone through something similarand then promoting that charity,
so like the viewers can go showsome support.
I feel like something like thatwould have been like better
fitting for the situation.
A different kind of promotion,for sure, and I mean I think
she's gone, I haven't watched it, but I think she went on like a

(01:17:44):
podcast and she talked more indepth about her situation, which
I feel like it's totally fine.
Like if she wants to share herstory, she totally can.
I just feel like this showtried to like abuse that and I

(01:18:11):
take it really like but yeah, Imean it's entertaining but also
kind of annoying.

Speaker 2 (01:18:17):
Yeah um, yeah, well, I'll probably.
I'm kind of.
I've heard so many people talkabout just how it is the best of
trash TV, so it's made me alittle bit curious to maybe
watch it.

Speaker 1 (01:18:34):
Yeah, but I definitely think they should
incorporate more of like thechurch stuff, because I feel
like that's the part that peopleare really curious about and I
feel like they just live anormal life and they gloss over
church topics.
I feel like it would beinteresting to like give more
people context and more likeinformation, but I think they
really just use the mormon inthe title for the buzzword or

(01:18:57):
whatever yeah, well, I feel likeif maybe I'll, I'll watch it
and we could do a segment orsomething, give some people some
context of church stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:19:10):
Yeah, because we know a lot.
But yeah, I think this has beena fun episode.
We had a few technicaldifficulties, but it's been
Still kicking.
Yeah, been great.
But yeah, if you like what youheard, follow us on tiktok at

(01:19:33):
therealtsbu, follow us onyoutube um, it definitely helps
us out and give us a follow onyour favorite platform, your
favorite podcast platform, andlet us know how we're doing too,
if there's anything we shouldchange or talk about.
But, yeah, awesome, thanks,thank you.

(01:19:57):
Bye.
I think that was like two hourslong.

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