We dive into the scandalous side of pop culture and explore bizarre internet mysteries that have captured attention online.
• Katie Perry's toilet-themed performance and space debacle highlighting her questionable creative decisions
• Blake Lively's PR crisis and how her attempts to redirect criticism have backfired
• Why "laying low" might be the best strategy for celebrities facing public criticism
• The Caroline Miller Walmart incident where security footage disproved claims about attempted child abduction
• False accusations and their damaging impact on innocent people trying to help others
• The ethical dilemmas presented in Netflix's medical drama "Pulse" regarding workplace relationships
• The mysterious "Menugate" phenomenon about a man living in an apparently empty apartment complex
• A TikTok mystery involving a woman who found a suspicious rolled-up rug during fence installation
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Riss (00:01):
About this week.
Welcome to another episode ofthis Stays Between Us, where we
roast what's trending, Okay, theeasiest thing to roast right
now.
I think, well, there's too muchlow-hanging fruit, you know?
Yeah, We've got Katy Perry onone hand and we have Blake.
Chrys (00:23):
Lively on the other.
I know what is the katie perrything.
I like I literally wasscrolling through tiktok and I
saw this thing of like a gianttoilet in a doo-doo just bopping
and I was like what the hell isthat I might be mistaken, but
I'm like 90 confident.
Riss (00:42):
The song that she's singing with that whole
production is um californiagirls and I'm like how no one
else poops.
What is it like?
Hot girls, bowel syndrome, likewhat is the connection?
I don't know.
Hot girls have bowel problems.
Chrys (01:00):
Yeah, the ibs, I guess I that was weird, I know like I
saw the giant doodle and I'mlike, is this a kid's show live
or something?
And I saw katie perry and I'mlike what is going on?
Like I need to get, I need tolike reset my freaking page
because this I don't know, no,it was like very cringy and I
feel like that it's just.
Riss (01:21):
Everybody is talking about it.
It's not good that this iscoming right after her whole
space debacle.
Oh yeah, her five minutes inspace, yeah, just so funny.
She's like flying through thecrowd like attached to like.
Anyway, just like does not lookgood.
Chrys (01:40):
I mean, if I had the money, I'd be flying through the
crowd too.
But like the dancing was reallybad, it's like was really bad.
It's like Like very bad andlike her leg is up.
It's like what is this?
Like you didn't hire anybody.
Like we did some budget cuts.
You were high, you were likeyou spent all the money on space
and it's so wild to me to havelike so much money that you're
(02:08):
just like, yeah, I'm gonna go tospace, and then I'm gonna dance
next to a doo-doo on tuesday,like that's
Riss (02:12):
my week yeah, looking at her like google calendar must be
the wildest experience.
Space on monday, dance with mydump here, dance in a toilet.
Dance like a crazy auntie there.
Chrys (02:28):
Like maybe flash my cooch to the crowd.
Riss (02:32):
Like yeah, katie perry, she's not having a good time.
Chrys (02:38):
Her pr team needs just hot and she's double time yeah
people are not like a reallycheesy reference to her first
song, hot in your coat.
Okay, you did get it.
Riss (02:50):
It was just really bad I was like I liked it ain't bad
yeah, she's crazy um, but thenwe have.
We have her low-hanging fruitsister over here, which is blake
lively yeah that that awardmade no sense right like and I
(03:12):
feel like what is whateverhappened to just lane low.
Chrys (03:15):
You know, like I haven't always necessarily disliked her,
but like she just keeps likedigging herself, like just stay
home for a few months and thenthey're gonna move on.
Riss (03:23):
I, I think you just said something very wise.
Laying low is very underrated,like you guys don't have to be
in the center of attention likeat all times.
Just like yeah, just just foryour own like sake, just just
step away for a little bit.
You're getting wrecked.
Chrys (03:43):
Yeah, out there especially during a time where
people are so hungry to havemore things to criticize you for
, even if she does come out anddo good things, like it's going
to be like dissected, so likejust lay low like they're gonna
move on.
They always move on.
Riss (03:59):
Yeah, it's, no, it's the whole.
Like did you listen to herspeech?
The bits and pieces?
Chrys (04:07):
of it.
Yeah, it was very rehearsed.
It was kind of painful, yeah.
Well, like it was not very like, like you're an actress Act At
least like, if you don't meanwhat you're saying, at least
like it just seemed very likedry.
Riss (04:19):
Yeah, and she's taking her the thing that I think like did
not land well with most peopleis that she's taking her mom's
story and like telling it to tryand get good, like good grace
from people.
Yeah, you know, but it's likethis is your mom's story and
like you're taking it and you'retrying to use it it's like it's
(04:41):
a very it's done in like badtaste.
Yeah, it's like a traumaticstory which, true or not, like
it's not yours to tell, andespecially when it's like very
blatant that it's an attempt tobe seen in her reputation.
Chrys (05:02):
Like yeah yeah, I like I think with permission, there's
nothing wrong with amplifyingother people's voices, like if
her mom was okay with it.
I think that part is fine, Ithink it's just the timing sucks
right.
Like why didn't she share thatstory if she had permission and
her mom was okay with it duringthe press for the movie?
Like that would have made sense, that would have been
(05:23):
appropriate.
But we were being playing likethen and now we're trying to
take the criticism and shift towhat we should have been doing.
Like I, I get, I don't get it.
But like in her head she'sprobably like okay, they're
telling me I should have donethis, so I'm gonna do it now.
But now it's like you're onlydoing it because you're being
told to, so don't do anythingfor a little while, just lay low
(05:44):
and then like come back andchange the conversation to it.
She has other movies coming out, change the conversation.
Like yeah, it just it she's notgonna fix that.
Riss (05:53):
It comes across as very disingenuous yeah, like and
calculated like calculated andit's just done in very like poor
taste it.
Yeah, the easiest thing wouldbe to lay low.
Come back if you want toapologize.
Apologize, have some sort ofyeah, I don't know.
Chrys (06:10):
The thing is like if she apologizes, I get it that like
she will be held liable for surein this lawsuit, which she
probably should be.
But I think to some degree, Ithink for certain things you
can't apologize and it couldjust not be.
Um, I don't know, I guess italways also depends on how she
does it right.
If she gets on like I don'tknow the most humble corner of
(06:37):
her house, that's probably verynice in like no makeup and gives
an apology, I feel like I don'tknow how well that would go
over unless it feels supergenuine, which, like it,
probably wouldn't.
Yeah, so I don't know how wellthat would vote over.
I probably would just lay low.
But if you do want to do anapology, maybe say yeah, like I.
(07:00):
You know I should have spentmore time I.
I should have.
If she's saying like Sony wasthe one that forced me to not
talk about you know victims orwhatever, let's forget about
that, that's irrelevant.
Like, even with like yourinfluence, you could have pushed
it.
If that's the story, if that'sreally what happened, get on the
internet and say like I shouldhave pushed harder for that.
I made a mistake there.
(07:20):
I recognize that there arevictims out there.
I was like I approached this ina very ignorant way and I'm
committed to never letting thishappen again and then like move
on.
But I think these little thingsthat she's doing, I don't know
I also do.
I do think she believes she wasa victim, even if she wasn't.
(07:41):
I think she believes that shewas with this whole movie thing.
I think she you have to believeit to take it this far.
I don't think it doesn't makeit true.
Riss (07:49):
I don't know, I think she thinks it is like people can put
up quite the front.
Chrys (07:55):
I really do even if she knows she lied.
She's been saying the samestory for a while now, even
though it's been kind ofchanging.
I think at some point you startbelieving it right, like she
think in her head.
I truly believe she thinksshe's a victim in all this.
Riss (08:09):
The public is too harsh the guy was a jerk in that way.
Yes, I think that, like shedoes think that she's a victim,
yeah in the or yeah, that she'sbeing harassed by the public and
that people are painting her ina light, that's probably not
true, but as far as the lawsuitgoes, I think she has to know
that.
On some level that she fw yeah,that they exaggerated and that
(08:34):
it's not fully true, and that,yeah, but that there there's.
There are other pieces thatthey weren't forthright about,
yeah.
You know, but you know, I feellike our podcast would be the
greatest platform for BlakeLively to come.
(08:57):
No, no.
Chrys (08:59):
Like we're okay, Don't bury us before we even get
started.
Riss (09:06):
No, I was going to say to come and apologize.
Chrys (09:11):
Oh, still no, we're good, she could come on confessions.
Riss (09:17):
I have a confession.
I lied.
Chrys (09:22):
Can you imagine that would be Maybe in like 20 years,
when we mean something to?
People and then she means lessPeople are less worried about it
.
So she'd just be like bring itback up.
Riss (09:34):
Tag Blake Lively.
Chrys (09:36):
Don't tag her.
We are good the most likelitigious person in the business
.
We're good, we're okay.
Riss (09:45):
People would love to hear her talk her side of the story.
Chrys (09:50):
They would roast her to oblivion, like in anybody that
wouldn't roast us for giving hera platform.
Well, we wouldn't give her aplatform, she would give us she
put, she put us on the maplet's's be real.
Riss (10:03):
It would be like we could be impartial.
Chrys (10:09):
She is so not sorry.
She went on this podcast withlike half a follower.
Did what?
Yeah, I mean sure, blake, let'stalk.
Have your people call, ourpeople can you imagine that's
(10:32):
funny.
Riss (10:34):
I mean, um, yeah, wild.
But speaking of women, thatlike embellish stories, yeah
which is so upsetting because Ifeel like we've worked so hard
to get to the point of, like,believe women, you know, but
then it's like, okay, never mind, don't just believe women.
Like maybe we do need to startasking more questions, as blake
(10:59):
lively is proving and as, yeah,like other people have proved as
well.
Do you want to tell, likethere's yeah, we can get into it
.
Chrys (11:08):
Um, I will say, like due process I think is always
important, but I think, yeah,this, these stories suck.
It's suck for they suck reallybadly for people that experience
real situations and because Ifeel like I don't know, I feel
like for those cases, right, youshould be for victims of sa, or
(11:29):
like harassment or whatever.
They should be, like innocentuntil proven guilty to you know
like they should be.
We should probably assume it'strue until we find out that it's
not in those instances.
Yeah, but yeah, there was this.
Riss (11:47):
It is like such a hard, it's such a hard thing to
balance Because it's like, yeah,you don't know who, like a lot
of the time, yeah, I don't know,just knowing who the victim is
in the situation.
Chrys (12:01):
Yeah, you know, because, like, in this, like the the
situation, yeah, you know,because like, and that's like
the blake lively for example,like justin baldoni is the
victim and yeah, like being,unless there's something we
haven't seen, but everythingthat she claimed has been
debunked.
So it's like with footage, it'slike yeah what are we doing?
Riss (12:20):
like his career is taking a hit, for sure he's being yeah,
well, I hope he gets back now.
Chrys (12:25):
Right with him.
Yeah, clearing his name, butstill sucks, and I mean this
whole thing at the very least, Ithink he should be financially
compensated for his legal fees.
Yeah for sure.
Yeah, yeah, but I'm not surewho saw this, but it was all
over my for for you page atleast the story about um
(12:46):
caroline miller, um at walmart.
Riss (12:49):
She was what you just remembered a name.
Oh my gosh, chris neverremembers names.
I'm bad at that.
I'm very proud.
Chrys (12:59):
The only reason I did do you want to hear the connection?
It makes no sense, but iled, Iwas trying to Google her name
earlier and I typed in Carolineand it showed up as Caroline
Forbes from Vampire Diaries, andthen Miller is easy to remember
.
So I was like, oh yeah,Caroline.
That's a smart way to remembernames.
I need to connect it tosomething that means to me.
(13:22):
Vampire Diaries ruled my lifefor a few years there.
I love it Anyway.
Yeah, so she's at Walmart.
She's taking like an electric,like electric, that's what it is
called.
Right, the electric like chair?
No.
Riss (13:38):
Not the electric chair.
Chrys (13:41):
As soon as you said it, I was like nope, that's wrong.
What is it?
I don't know.
Mechanical, it's not.
It's not a bowl, I don't know.
What is it.
What is it?
Maybe it is an electrical?
Um, I've forgotten all thenames now.
(14:03):
Uh, it's one step forward, fivebackwards.
Hold on.
Riss (14:09):
Um, it's just, it is the wheelie chair and it's like not
a wheelchair, but it's Like umElectric chair.
No.
Chrys (14:26):
Because you're thinking like like death row.
Riss (14:28):
Yeah, okay, yeah, my brain went there.
You said electric chair, that'swhere it goes.
Chrys (14:37):
Yeah, I googled like electric wheelchair and that's
what it is, I think Motorizedchair.
All right, my dudes, you knowwhat I'm talking about.
Riss (14:48):
Okay, the chair, you know whatever not that chair,
whatever, I didn't help myselfscooter chair.
Chrys (14:57):
Scooter chair, sure, that's what we'll reference it
as yeah, there you go.
Um, she was on it with her twokids.
Uh, I guess she said that shewas like she took one just
because, like, her kids wantedto ride on one, which some
people were already kind ofpissed about.
Um, that they're only forpeople who are disabled.
I mean, I did use them when Iwas pregnant.
(15:18):
I feel like that's valid, thatcounts, and I have sciatica, so
like sometimes, if my leg islike locked up, I just use this
chair, but so like I feel like II feel like an imposter when I
do, though, even when I wasfully pregnant, I'm like I
probably am just lazy, but itfeels like my pelvic bone is
about to explode.
I count it.
(15:39):
Okay, I feel as bad just doingconfessions throughout like do.
I need to feel bad about this asa professional.
Riss (15:48):
No, thank you, you want social work girl.
Chrys (15:53):
Um, anyway, she, yeah, so she was on it and she's like
clearly having trouble with it,like in the footage, she's like
bumping into everything andwhich is important, because this
guy comes up to her and well,maybe we tell her version first.
She said that this guy came upto her and asked her where the
again the burp is like halfwaymy throat of my throat.
(16:17):
It's like too much coke zerosorry, I'm like dying just burp,
I can't.
It's stuck.
It's like it just comes up tolike here, just force it, it's
like really push it.
I'm worried about what else isgoing to happen.
Whatever It'll go out, whatever.
Anyway, she is at Walmart.
(16:39):
This guy comes up to her andasks her where the Tylenol is.
She says that she points to itand as soon as she points, her
two-year-old or however old yearold is on her lap.
And she said that the manlaunched at her kid and like
tried to grab him and so shegrabs her kid and they're like
doing a tug-of-war for like 10seconds, which is a long time if
(17:01):
you think about like yeah yeah,that probably sounded bad on
the video.
Now that I think about it my armrubbing on the sofa, whatever,
sounded kinky.
Anyway, we're gonna keep moving.
So, um, yeah, so like she'sgoing with this guy.
Apparently this didn't happen,so it's okay that we're laughing
(17:23):
, um, so yeah, and he, I guessshe gets the kid back and I
supposedly.
He said to her oh I was tryingto get him off your lap so you
could come help me, which makesno sense.
If he thought she was disabled,yeah Right, because you would
assume she's disabled if she'son the thing she's on, yeah.
Riss (17:43):
Not the scooter chair, unless she had mentioned already
that she wasn't, or something.
She's just driving around likesorry, sorry I'm not supposed to
be using this, just playingwith my kids maybe, um, yeah, so
then this man got arrested.
Chrys (18:00):
He, I think he's still in jail and it's been like a month
.
That's so sad I would be so sadI could not point where you're
oh girl, no, josh, is like,let's go camping.
I'm like, why would I do thatto myself?
Like no, like I know I should.
(18:21):
I know I should want to,because it's like, let's be
adventurous.
But like I need my bed, I needmy heating pad, I need, like, my
fan.
I need so many things.
I need the right conditionsplus my, like, insomnia meds to
fall asleep.
Riss (18:36):
I don't want to be out in the woods I need like a
different source ofentertainment every like 10
minutes.
You know what am I gonna do ina cell?
Chrys (18:47):
I'm constantly trying to avoid like sitting down and like
just chilling with my thoughts.
I'm just trying to stay busy.
That would be hard props topeople that do it.
Riss (19:03):
Congrats, special, shout out, we're gonna watch that one
back.
Chrys (19:09):
I was half thinking camping, half thinking jail as
the same thing.
So don't go to jail, kids stayin school.
Riss (19:16):
But and don't go camping.
I would especially be so madabout being in jail if I was
there for something I didn't doalso we're trying to help or
like, because what actuallyhappened in?
Chrys (19:28):
they released the footage .
He asked her for the tylenolthing.
He kind of walks away.
She keeps driving.
She hits a shelf, her babyalmost falls.
The guy comes over, picks thebaby up, puts it on her lap,
keeps walking, goes to get histylenol.
It shows the lady two secondslater bumping into another shelf
and then running over anotherone of her kids foot and this
(19:50):
other guy coming over andpicking that baby up and putting
up on the thing to help her.
Also, like what is happening?
Like having kids is hard,overwhelming.
Kids are crazy, sure.
But like why are we runningover our children with this
scooter chair?
Like, yeah, what is going on?
Like let's get a regular cart,put your children on the thing.
And like buckle them down yeah,no, yeah, very very weird.
(20:16):
It's not a playground, it's justnot the place.
And like there's shelveseverywhere.
Like what if you bump into ashelf and it falls on you?
Riss (20:21):
like I don't like know how to use it too.
Like it seems like it's herfirst time riding around in one
of those.
Chrys (20:28):
Yeah, I don't understand.
You're not doing very well atit either anyway, yeah, it
should all be a non-issue, trulylike.
Riss (20:36):
I don't even think any of that is a problem until dot dot
dot keep going.
Chrys (20:42):
Yeah wait what I got lost for a second.
Riss (20:48):
None of that is a problem, like none of that is a problem
until you find out she tries toblame this guy.
Chrys (20:55):
Oh, yeah, he like, and he even comes back when he gets
his tylenol.
He walks past her and he's likeI found it.
And she's like cool, and heleaves, pays for his stuff and
goes.
And then she like calls thepolice, I guess, and then goes
on the news and like is talkingone of the videos she has her
baby on her lap and she's likedid someone try to take you away
from mama?
And the baby's like yeah, butlike, yeah, like you're leading
(21:18):
the witness.
She's like like you can do thatwith kids.
If you turn to him and say,like are you so excited about
the volcano that just erupted,he'd be like yay, like he has no
idea what you're saying.
Yeah, um, yeah.
And yeah, says that she had atug of war with him.
And anyway, the story that weinitially said completely lied
about the interaction, which islike why, why are we wasting our
time?
Why are we wasting the policetime?
(21:38):
Why are we blaming this guy fortrying to be nice?
Like isn't that terrible thatsometimes, like you're just
trying to be the good person,like trying to be nice, trying
to be helpful, and then likepeople turn around and just spit
in your face like this.
Like what, honestly, I would?
That would be my origin story.
Riss (21:58):
I would like be a villain forever after that I know I
would be some like you can't doa nice thing for anybody.
You can't talk to people whenyou're out and about without
somebody accusing you ofsomething.
What world do we live in?
Chrys (22:14):
I know and it's like dude , let the kid it puts into
question.
Right, like if you're in thegrocery store, wherever, like
there's a kid falling, like doyou not pick them up?
Like you just mind your ownbusiness.
Riss (22:24):
Like that seems like not the world I want to live in
because obviously like you haveto be careful and and stuff.
Chrys (22:29):
There's creeps everywhere and stuff.
But if someone's just clearlyhelping you, I don't understand.
Like I was listening to adifferent podcast the other day
and there was a story where Idon't know if it was like Am I
the Asshole?
Or I can't remember what theReddit, whatever it was.
But this guy was at work or orlike had a work dinner or
(22:54):
something, and this one girlstarted choking.
So he gave her like the hamletor whatever, and she like was,
she was getting like purple.
She spit it out, she was fine,he saved her life and she
reported him to hr.
It was in front of everyone.
He didn't touch herinappropriately.
He literally like it is like aphysical thing that you're doing
, you're getting behind theperson and like slamming on
(23:15):
their stomach, but but like thealternative would have been for
her to choke and die.
Yeah like it was an emergency.
Yeah, and everyone likeapplauded him like if it had
been a bad thing, like I don, Idon't know, Kind of a crazy
thing.
So she reported him.
He kind of got in trouble.
They were supposed toinvestigate it.
They talked to witnesses.
(23:35):
They were like that's not true,Like she was choking like for
like a second before he liketried to help and then he
stopped like inviting her tothings as friends to hang out.
He would only let her come ifit was multiple people and
whatever With reason, Becauseyou just want to be safe.
(23:57):
You need to protect yourself.
It's hard to run fromaccusations if you're getting
them.
And again, false accusationsare not the rule.
They're the exception most ofthe time, but the exception
still not the rule.
They're the exception most ofthe time, but the exception
still like hurts the rule.
You know, yeah, but yeah, heanyway.
So then she was like yeah, likeI already explained it to hr, I
(24:19):
know they're like that's notwhat you're trying to do.
I just have some trauma that Ineed to deal with, but like I
feel like you're excluding mefrom hanging out and like you're
avoiding me and it's like youcan't have it both ways.
Riss (24:30):
Yeah, and yeah, yeah, it's like I mean.
And if, like, if there's trauma, then yeah, like you don't know
what, what is going to pushthat button.
You know what's going to incitemore, what's going to trigger
that's the right word what'sgoing gonna trigger that?
Yeah, and for his own likeprotection, like, like, what do
(24:54):
you do?
Chrys (24:56):
seriously, it puts him in a like a, stuck between a rock
and a hard place and it'sunderstandable, like if you have
a history and for you to havecertain triggers like that.
Riss (25:05):
I understand that but from his perspective it's like
damned if you do, damned if youdon't 100.
Chrys (25:12):
But I'm saying like she knows that, but doesn't she also
know that she would?
The alternative is she wouldhave died in that situation and
he was trying to save her life,like I get that maybe physically
.
It made her uncomfortable afterthe fact when she was not
choking and had a chance tothink about it like.
I understand that, but thatdoesn't make it his fault yeah,
no 100.
Riss (25:33):
That like weirdly makes me think of a of a new series on
netflix.
Have you it's?
Uh, it's a doctor one, I can'tremember what it's called pulse.
Chrys (25:47):
I started it.
Yes, I haven't finished it.
You just reminded me of that.
Honestly, another one of them.
Another one of them just likedied off.
It's like I binged it.
I fell asleep.
Riss (25:57):
It doesn't exist anymore, it's it's so interesting and I
feel like it's like it'll becontroversial, whatever side
that like you take with it.
So it's like a little iffy toeven get into it, yeah, but I
just think it's like it's veryinteresting how the whole plot
(26:19):
is.
The whole premise of the thingis that like she is in love with
this guy, they have like aserious relationship and she
reports them to HR because ofhow their relationship affects
their work environment.
But reporting him to HR likeruins his aspirations and his
(26:47):
career.
And it's this question of like,if loved him, why did you do
that?
Chrys (26:51):
but also, is it right to not report it if it is affecting
your progress in your careeranyway, it's that was really
interesting to watch because,like, the more you watch, the
more like confused it getsbecause it's like oh, it does
seem like he's kind of like likestanding in the way of you
(27:17):
getting opportunities at work.
If you don't, if you're notgoing along with like hanging
out with him or giving him ashot, but then you do like him.
Riss (27:22):
But it's also like and there's also like and and for
her, that there's like thisopposite of like being with him,
he has a lot of influence andbeing with him, he has a lot of
influence and so being with himpushes her further in her career
, but she doesn't feel like she.
She doesn't want it, I guess,if it's not what she deserves,
(27:43):
yeah, you know.
So there's this like, yeah, thisgray area of like Is it okay,
is it not?
And don't shit where you eat,don't pee in the pool, you
swimming yeah, I mean it's alesson, right, like to be really
careful.
Chrys (28:02):
There's like reasons why, there's rules and like a full
process.
Whenever you like, get into arelationship with someone that
you're in that type of situationwith, like you probably should
avoid that if you can.
No 100.
Riss (28:16):
But I would be like curious, what like?
What would?
What would you do?
Like not you, but like thepeople, our listeners, you
listening at home or whereveryou are, you don't have to just
listen at home.
Um, what, what would you do inthat situation?
Is that like, is that somethingyou would report or no?
Chrys (28:37):
yeah, I guess I haven't finished.
So did you finish the show?
Do we like get an answer likewhy they broke up or how that
went down?
Because I guess, yeah, as faras I know, I only know that,
like they were like livingtogether, people didn't know,
and then she reported him.
Riss (28:53):
I have a piece missing yeah, do you want me to tell you
spoiler?
I'll still watch it.
Chrys (28:58):
I like spoilers.
It makes me feel safe, I knowwhat's coming.
Riss (29:04):
I know I'm like anxious, like please well, essentially,
they go to um, this retreat, um,for all the doctors, and they
are talking in a room and heends up telling her that he
loves her and she gets reallyemotional about it and she says
(29:25):
she loves him too.
And then, um, and she says sheloves him too, and then, um,
it's been a while, so I don'tremember like exactly, but then
she gets really afraid of, like,how this is gonna affect both
of their careers.
Um, and they get into kind ofan argument about it.
(29:46):
That it's like an interestingargument.
They get in an argument aboutit.
She feels really she's going upfor to be the resident is that
what it is?
Chief resident, chief residentnext year?
And it's between her and thisother guy.
And then, as soon as, like,they say they love each other,
(30:09):
that kind of messes with thingswhere she doesn't know if she's
gonna get that position becauseof her own efforts or because of
him.
Yeah and oh, I know I'mbutchering it because I know
that there's more angles to it.
It's not just like that blackand white.
Chrys (30:30):
Yeah, and I know this is probably the wrong take, but
like win-win, a win is a win,it's bad.
Girls, take what you can get,I'm like I'm going to get this
job and I have this boyfriendthat loves me.
Like okay, yeah, no, I know,and so, but no, I know, and so,
(30:52):
but I get it.
I mean it's like her app forlike.
I mean sit him down like one ofyou transfers, sit him down and
say like, don't push for thingsfor me.
Like yeah, just like don't.
Riss (30:58):
Don't send him my way anything, but don't say anything
.
Yeah, um and yeah.
So then they get in thisargument about that, and then
there's something else to dowith his career and she thinks
that, like that, now she has toprotect him, for I don't know,
but it's like it feels very Idon't know.
(31:19):
It's just interesting, like Ialmost I I felt I felt kind of
bad for him because he's gettinglike everybody at work thinks
he's like a predator orsomething, and yeah, what it
really was was just he told herhe loved her and there's again
there's more, there's more thatgoes into it that's why I'm like
(31:40):
yeah, but like so I'd be socurious if anybody has the
perspective.
I kind of side more with him alittle bit in this whole thing.
But if anybody sides more withher, I'd be curious to hear like
why, why, um, and her, she haslike a traumatic past where for
her it's like really hard toaccept that anybody loves her
(32:03):
and so that's like triggered alittle bit too, but still not a
good enough reason to yeah Ithink I don't know what people
sometimes don't understand isthat hr is not for you, it's for
the company, the establishment,the hospital, whatever it is.
Chrys (32:27):
It's for them, it's to protect them legally, right,
that's what they're doing at theend of the day, and so like
they want to try to keep youfrom filing a lawsuit.
So I think one thing that andthis kind of sucks, I guess too,
because there are differentsituations, but I feel like if
you are willing to go to hr, youhave to be willing for it to be
(32:51):
public.
Right, that's what you'reagreeing to.
So I think in that situation,what I disagree with is like she
felt wronged, which makes sense, but I think she would know,
right, the impact that going tohr would have, you know.
So I think you have to bewilling to be public and say we
were in a full-blownrelationship that was consensual
(33:13):
, yeah, but we were.
You know, I was worried aboutus making decisions that like
it's a little nuanced yeah,whatnot, maybe be
straightforward about it.
I know that it's like puttingyour business out there, but at
the same time, I feel like youowe that person that much,
because otherwise they thinkthat this guy like did something
horrible, did somethingnon-consensual to you.
(33:34):
Um, right, like, I feel likeyou have to be willing for that.
I do think that it is kind ofnuanced because, like, if you
were actually like sexuallyharassed or assaulted at work or
something like, you are owedmore privacy than that, yeah,
but I feel like in her case, Ifeel like she should have been
willing to be more honest, atleast I.
(33:56):
The last episode that I watched, I think, was like it coming
out that they were livingtogether because she was trying
to keep it a secret, which I get.
It's your life, you want tokeep it private, but like I
don't think it was enough toruin each other's lives, right,
yeah it was just like yeah, itwas just an interesting.
Riss (34:14):
I thought it was interesting, I don't know.
It was yeah.
Yeah, I don't know, and this isnot to say that you shouldn't
go to HR and that you shouldn'tlike.
Chrys (34:29):
You should.
Riss (34:30):
But I'm saying like, like, seek private legal help if you
can I guess, like you and youshould use all your resources,
but and be aware of, like if,depending on the claim that
you're making, like how that'sgonna affect you and the person.
Chrys (34:50):
Yeah.
Riss (34:52):
Right Again.
There's plenty of situationswhere you probably shouldn't
even care how the other personis going to be affected Like
they deserve it.
Yeah, but in her situation Ithink that she maybe owed him a
little bit more.
Yeah, as somebody who she loved.
Chrys (35:14):
Like, did they break up and he retaliated?
No, okay, because if that hadhappened that would make more
sense, I guess.
No, I don't know.
Riss (35:22):
It's yeah complicated, it was just yeah interesting Anyway
, yeah, let us know what youguys think if you watched it.
Chrys (35:30):
But again, I will say if something happens at work, seek
private legal help and then gofrom there.
I feel like that comes firstProps to the hospital because
they don't know what happened.
I guess maybe they have partsof the story, I don't know.
But in a lot of cases whenwomen come forward and men I
(35:50):
guess, more often women, let'sbe for real the woman gets let
go a lot of times.
Yeah, Like stats are super sadaround it, Like, especially if
the guy is higher up.
Oh, yeah, Like they don't getrid of that guy most of the time
, which I think in thatsituation he was her supervisor,
right?
Yeah, so props to them for like, like getting rid of him, I
(36:17):
guess.
But the situation maybe wasmore nuanced than that.
Riss (36:24):
But, yeah, well, that was depressing, you know that took a
real downturn.
Um what are?
Some good things happening inthe world I don't know sad um
that note.
Chrys (36:40):
I know, let me think um.
Literally, I only wrote downthe scandalous things.
I guess, okay, this is not goodbut it's, and I feel like
that's good enough right now.
Have you guys seen this?
Like the, I forget his name nowit's like Menugate on TikTok.
(37:01):
I need to see if I can find hisname, but it's going to start
playing audio.
I'm so sorry.
No, it didn't, menugate, heyit's me that guy Cody Cody AT.
cody is his tiktok.
Anyway, he's been living inapparent.
I don't listen.
Okay, I'm gonna start with this.
(37:21):
I read some comments.
Some people are like this isobviously a skit, it got me
which is not hard to do.
Riss (37:28):
That's me with.
Like every AI post ever.
It's like a freaking polar bearsleeping on a boat with other
people and I'm like, wow,beautiful Nature is amazing.
The first person I showed to.
It's like look at the feet Likethose are polar bear feet
(37:48):
Anyway.
Sometimes it's hard to tell.
I know it's hard.
I'm just a feet Like those arepolar bear feet Anyway.
Chrys (37:52):
Sometimes it's hard to tell.
I know it's hard, I'm just agirl.
Yeah, what do you want from me?
No, but it's really interesting.
He like I went on a deep diveat like 3 in the morning, which
makes this less reliable.
But he's been posting for likefour years that he's living in
this apartment complex that'ssupposedly like empty and
(38:15):
basically how he moves into thisplace and some guys are putting
like these Chinese menus in thedoors or whatever, of every
house, of every apartment in hiscomplex, and he's walking
around and he's like it's beenlike five days None of these
doors have been opened becausethe Chinese menu is still in the
door, Between like the door andthe door frame.
(38:38):
So he's like what is happening?
So he starts filming it and hefilms like all over his complex
and it's the same thing.
And then, like he's walkingaround outside it's like dark,
Like it's seven, whatever time,it is night time, all of the
lights are off in a complex wait, I may have missed this.
Riss (38:58):
Did he just move into this complex, so this is the first
few videos.
Chrys (39:02):
It started four years ago .
He still lives there and it'sstill just like him okay.
So he goes to like the parking,like there's a bunch of cars
with boots on them, like they'resupposed to be getting towed or
whatever, but the dates on itare like a year, multiple months
Like, and these cars areobviously like abandoned.
(39:23):
A lot of them have been hit andlike they don't look like
they're drivable anymore.
There was one that had likegunshots on the windows yeah, so
like spooky one.
Let's pray for him.
I don't know what's going onthere, but they need to use this
.
I don't know what's happening,but isn't that crazy?
(39:45):
And also like how could that bea skit?
And then at some point someoneum set off the alarm or whatever
, and so he goes outside.
No one comes outside, yeah.
And then he gets an email frommanagement saying that someone
pulled the fire alarm and hegoes around the full building
recording the walls and stuffand there is no fire thing to be
(40:06):
pulled yeah, so he's like whatdo you mean?
someone did this like there'snothing for someone to pull and
then, like he starts saying thathe thinks that like someone is
putting props out of like trashand things, because he sees like
these cans being put outside ofthese doors but they don't have
(40:27):
trash in them, but the becausethey have trash, valet or
whatever, but like his trash isnot picked up yet so they
haven't come, but there's notrash in these bins that are
being left outside for the valettrash.
Hmm, I thought it was a littlespooky.
I don't know, I feel like it'sweird spooky.
Riss (40:44):
Sounds like a truman show, right, yeah it's crazy.
Chrys (40:49):
I don't again, I don't know if it's real.
If someone knows, wait, sothat's it.
Oh yeah, pretty much, we don'tknow he's still there.
Riss (41:00):
He's just living there.
Nobody else lives there, and heonly started noticing this
recently.
Chrys (41:05):
No, he's been posting about it for four years and he
still lives there.
Riss (41:08):
Yeah, this is the kind of like horror movie kind of thing
that you're like dude leave.
Chrys (41:13):
You know why he hasn't left?
Because he's a boy.
Riss (41:16):
Oh, I was going to say because he's probably making
money on TikTok.
Chrys (41:19):
That too.
But at some point wouldn't youjust like get a better place,
Find a new story?
Riss (41:26):
Yeah, so interesting, I know.
Chrys (41:31):
Huh, this reminds me of another one too.
This was a while ago, but therewas this girl.
Did you ever see the Listen?
This is I have insomnia, sosometimes I don't sleep and I
spend time on TikTok.
So don't judge me, but a fewyears ago or a few months ago, I
can't remember, I have theopposite of insomnia.
Riss (41:50):
I sleep too much.
I need that.
Chrys (41:53):
I slept like four hours straight the other night and I
woke up like, wow, that hasn'thappened in a long time.
Wow, really, yeah, four hoursLike not in, like a stretch.
Riss (42:03):
Hmm, if I slept only four hours I would not be able to
work.
Like would be broken.
Chrys (42:12):
yeah, that day, I mean, I feel broken, like unless I take
like nyquil or something orlike in some events, I can't
just do it naturally likeinteresting, I don't know why,
um, but yeah, there's this girlwho posted this thing on tiktok
a while back where, like she wasbuilding, like I think she had
(42:32):
just moved into this house butshe was building a fence around
her house, and they starteddigging to put down the fence
and they like found a rolled uprug, and so she filmed it and
like posted it on TikTok.
Like isn't this so weird?
Like it was pretty deep and itwas rolled up and everyone was
like, put the shovel down andcall the police, there's
(42:56):
probably a body.
Oh whoa, I just saw your facechange completely.
Riss (43:03):
It didn't even cross my mind.
I was like why?
What was the tea?
Chrys (43:10):
People must really like old rugs.
Yeah, yeah, I was like, why arepeople wearing?
Riss (43:13):
rugs every movie ever, I know well, now it clicked.
Chrys (43:18):
Yeah, it makes sense yeah , call the police, girlfriend.
I know I probably would havethought of it immediately either
.
I only did because I hadalready seen the comments, but I
was like anyway, so there wasthis whole thing, like it was
also really weird because shedid call the police and they
brought out, like I don't know,like excavators came and like
(43:40):
the csi people and the fbi, likeall these people came and she,
like was recording most of it,which she may or may not have
been allowed to do, I don't know.
But now, like up close, she hadto stay in her house, um, but
she was filming from likeoutside what was happening, like
she was live for a good portionof the day or something.
And the weird thing is that theybrought out the dogs at first
(44:02):
to like see if there was areason to even dig, and I forget
what it's called like when thedog like find something, it's
like they sniffed it out.
No, it something.
It's like they Sniffed it out.
No, it's like.
It's like they there's like aword for it it's like they go to
the spot and they sit orsomething.
They usually do that when likethey spot whatever.
(44:23):
There's a name, I don't knowwhat it is, but they like
basically made it so like theyhad determined that there was a
body.
Yeah, and so that's when theybrought out all the big guns and
they were like out thereforever and like moving around
dirt, like they like destroyedher back um, backyard, pretty
much.
They like put most of it, itlike together ish after, but it
(44:47):
was pretty much like just dirteverywhere, and they told her
that they didn't find a body,but they took a bunch of like it
seemed like they took the rugand a bunch of stuff.
Aliens, what Anyway?
Anyway, not aliens, I meanmaybe aliens, I don't know.
Riss (45:04):
Well, I don't know, are they covering something up,
something that she shouldn'tknow about?
I think they definitely coveredit up.
Chrys (45:08):
I think know about.
I think they definitely coveredit up.
I think they found a bodybecause would they tell her be
like, oh yeah, update yourtiktok people, like it would
probably hurt their case?
I would think, right, theywould have to.
I feel like they would tell her, would they?
Riss (45:21):
I feel like that would be like.
The normal procedure would bethat like, yeah, we found a body
, and then I don't, I don't knowbecause what if?
Chrys (45:29):
because she was live on t , on TikTok and obviously like
posting about it.
I feel like, if they have to doan investigation and find out
whose body it was to close acurrent case, well, maybe with a
TikTok thing.
I don't know if they would,maybe they would, I don't know.
I just assume everyone's lyingto me it's more mysterious.
Riss (45:50):
Well, but no, okay.
So I guess what I'm saying islike I feel like they would tell
her.
I feel like that would be thenormal thing in any other
situation.
Is that they would tell theperson, yeah, but something
sketchy feels like is going onright a little bit.
Chrys (46:05):
Or like what if they suspected her, would they?
They're allowed to lie.
Riss (46:08):
That's the thing, right like they're legally allowed to
lie and if it's like, if it'snot a body, then what?
Chrys (46:18):
was it, I don't know why would the dogs have found?
Riss (46:20):
anything, and was she not watching at all times?
Chrys (46:24):
it's kind of hard to explain because I watched some
of the live.
Basically, like they told herthat she couldn't leave her
house and she had like the likea back sliding door and her
backyard was pretty big and sothey were just out there.
They had like stuff like allaround like covering the area
that they were gonna dig andwhatever.
(46:44):
They had a bunch of people, abunch of vehicles and whatever,
and so they only let her outthere once.
They kind of put most thingsback and took the rug and
whatever.
And so they only let her outthere once.
They kind of put most thingsback and took the rug and
whatever evidence that theyneeded, like why would you take
the rug if there's nothing to it?
Maybe, maybe they look, maybeit was a conspiracy theory or
there, but maybe it's just thatthey need to log what happened
(47:06):
or whatever.
But I would think that theyfound something yeah like, or
maybe it was just like, I don'tknow.
I guess maybe they found drugsrolled up it.
They were trying to make agiant joint, I don't know.
Like, why would the dog sit, orwhatever?
Why would it like alert thatthere's something?
(47:27):
If there isn't anything, itcould have been an animal, I
guess, wouldn't it?
Riss (47:37):
Alright, they gave up One of our lights just turned off.
Chrys (47:45):
We don't know why.
So it's Lolly's turn to talkwhile I fix it.
Riss (47:48):
Yeah, no, Very weird it was that it Was that like is
that the end of the story?
Chrys (47:58):
They just like I want to stop telling you stories.
You keep saying is that it?
Riss (48:03):
I mean like I got really excited about it.
Okay, well, I mean mean justlike when I ask is that it?
It's like did?
Did she do any more digging?
Is there anything?
Chrys (48:16):
I do have a follow-up.
What happened was she got abunch of followers from it.
Someone hacked her account andtook all her money.
Oh, from the views that she got.
Oh, that's sad.
Yeah, that's the onlydevelopment I know.
That's upsetting.
We can reach out and say, hey,what happened with the wreck?
Maybe she'll come on, we'llhave her on.
Yeah, it's like, tell us moreyeah and tell us what's your?
(48:39):
Confession.
It's like did you kill him?
Like, is that a body that youknow you're responsible for?
yeah, maybe she's I haven't seenanything else pop up of hers.
Riss (48:53):
These are the questions we need answered.
Yeah, but yeah, that's anotherepisode.
Thanks for joining us.
Yeah, if you like our content,follow us on TikTok at
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(49:14):
them and YouTube under theStays Between Us.
Yeah, spill the tea, sip thesecrets and shut the hell up
about it.
Chrys (49:28):
And don't forget the Stays Between Us.
See ya so aggressive.
And don't forget the staysbetween us.
See ya so aggressive like.
Riss (49:38):
There's no way to make that sound like cute.
Chrys (49:41):
I think this is because the computer shut off.
Riss (49:44):
Oh yes, that makes sense.
That's fine.
Yeah, and we were at an hour.
About this week.
Welcome to another episode ofthis Stays Between Us, where we
roast what's trending, Okay, theeasiest thing to roast right
now.
I think, well, there's too muchlow-hanging fruit, you know?
Yeah, We've got Katy Perry onone hand and we have Blake.
Chrys (00:23):
Lively on the other.
I know what is the katie perrything.
I like I literally wasscrolling through tiktok and I
saw this thing of like a gianttoilet in a doo-doo just bopping
and I was like what the hell isthat I might be mistaken, but
I'm like 90 confident.
Riss (00:42):
The song that she's singing with that whole
production is um californiagirls and I'm like how no one
else poops.
What is it like?
Hot girls, bowel syndrome, likewhat is the connection?
I don't know.
Hot girls have bowel problems.
Chrys (01:00):
Yeah, the ibs, I guess I that was weird, I know like I
saw the giant doodle and I'mlike, is this a kid's show live
or something?
And I saw katie perry and I'mlike what is going on?
Like I need to get, I need tolike reset my freaking page
because this I don't know, no,it was like very cringy and I
feel like that it's just.
Riss (01:21):
Everybody is talking about it.
It's not good that this iscoming right after her whole
space debacle.
Oh yeah, her five minutes inspace, yeah, just so funny.
She's like flying through thecrowd like attached to like.
Anyway, just like does not lookgood.
Chrys (01:40):
I mean, if I had the money, I'd be flying through the
crowd too.
But like the dancing was reallybad, it's like was really bad.
It's like Like very bad andlike her leg is up.
It's like what is this?
Like you didn't hire anybody.
Like we did some budget cuts.
You were high, you were likeyou spent all the money on space
and it's so wild to me to havelike so much money that you're
(02:08):
just like, yeah, I'm gonna go tospace, and then I'm gonna dance
next to a doo-doo on tuesday,like that's
Riss (02:12):
my week yeah, looking at her like google calendar must be
the wildest experience.
Space on monday, dance with mydump here, dance in a toilet.
Dance like a crazy auntie there.
Chrys (02:28):
Like maybe flash my cooch to the crowd.
Riss (02:32):
Like yeah, katie perry, she's not having a good time.
Chrys (02:38):
Her pr team needs just hot and she's double time yeah
people are not like a reallycheesy reference to her first
song, hot in your coat.
Okay, you did get it.
Riss (02:50):
It was just really bad I was like I liked it ain't bad
yeah, she's crazy um, but thenwe have.
We have her low-hanging fruitsister over here, which is blake
lively yeah that that awardmade no sense right like and I
(03:12):
feel like what is whateverhappened to just lane low.
Chrys (03:15):
You know, like I haven't always necessarily disliked her,
but like she just keeps likedigging herself, like just stay
home for a few months and thenthey're gonna move on.
Riss (03:23):
I, I think you just said something very wise.
Laying low is very underrated,like you guys don't have to be
in the center of attention likeat all times.
Just like yeah, just just foryour own like sake, just just
step away for a little bit.
You're getting wrecked.
Chrys (03:43):
Yeah, out there especially during a time where
people are so hungry to havemore things to criticize you for
, even if she does come out anddo good things, like it's going
to be like dissected, so likejust lay low like they're gonna
move on.
They always move on.
Riss (03:59):
Yeah, it's, no, it's the whole.
Like did you listen to herspeech?
The bits and pieces?
Chrys (04:07):
of it.
Yeah, it was very rehearsed.
It was kind of painful, yeah.
Well, like it was not very like, like you're an actress Act At
least like, if you don't meanwhat you're saying, at least
like it just seemed very likedry.
Riss (04:19):
Yeah, and she's taking her the thing that I think like did
not land well with most peopleis that she's taking her mom's
story and like telling it to tryand get good, like good grace
from people.
Yeah, you know, but it's likethis is your mom's story and
like you're taking it and you'retrying to use it it's like it's
(04:41):
a very it's done in like badtaste.
Yeah, it's like a traumaticstory which, true or not, like
it's not yours to tell, andespecially when it's like very
blatant that it's an attempt tobe seen in her reputation.
Chrys (05:02):
Like yeah yeah, I like I think with permission, there's
nothing wrong with amplifyingother people's voices, like if
her mom was okay with it.
I think that part is fine, Ithink it's just the timing sucks
right.
Like why didn't she share thatstory if she had permission and
her mom was okay with it duringthe press for the movie?
Like that would have made sense, that would have been
(05:23):
appropriate.
But we were being playing likethen and now we're trying to
take the criticism and shift towhat we should have been doing.
Like I, I get, I don't get it.
But like in her head she'sprobably like okay, they're
telling me I should have donethis, so I'm gonna do it now.
But now it's like you're onlydoing it because you're being
told to, so don't do anythingfor a little while, just lay low
(05:44):
and then like come back andchange the conversation to it.
She has other movies coming out, change the conversation.
Like yeah, it just it she's notgonna fix that.
Riss (05:53):
It comes across as very disingenuous yeah, like and
calculated like calculated andit's just done in very like poor
taste it.
Yeah, the easiest thing wouldbe to lay low.
Come back if you want toapologize.
Apologize, have some sort ofyeah, I don't know.
Chrys (06:10):
The thing is like if she apologizes, I get it that like
she will be held liable for surein this lawsuit, which she
probably should be.
But I think to some degree, Ithink for certain things you
can't apologize and it couldjust not be.
Um, I don't know, I guess italways also depends on how she
does it right.
If she gets on like I don'tknow the most humble corner of
(06:37):
her house, that's probably verynice in like no makeup and gives
an apology, I feel like I don'tknow how well that would go
over unless it feels supergenuine, which, like it,
probably wouldn't.
Yeah, so I don't know how wellthat would vote over.
I probably would just lay low.
But if you do want to do anapology, maybe say yeah, like I.
(07:00):
You know I should have spentmore time I.
I should have.
If she's saying like Sony wasthe one that forced me to not
talk about you know victims orwhatever, let's forget about
that, that's irrelevant.
Like, even with like yourinfluence, you could have pushed
it.
If that's the story, if that'sreally what happened, get on the
internet and say like I shouldhave pushed harder for that.
I made a mistake there.
(07:20):
I recognize that there arevictims out there.
I was like I approached this ina very ignorant way and I'm
committed to never letting thishappen again and then like move
on.
But I think these little thingsthat she's doing, I don't know
I also do.
I do think she believes she wasa victim, even if she wasn't.
(07:41):
I think she believes that shewas with this whole movie thing.
I think she you have to believeit to take it this far.
I don't think it doesn't makeit true.
Riss (07:49):
I don't know, I think she thinks it is like people can put
up quite the front.
Chrys (07:55):
I really do even if she knows she lied.
She's been saying the samestory for a while now, even
though it's been kind ofchanging.
I think at some point you startbelieving it right, like she
think in her head.
I truly believe she thinksshe's a victim in all this.
Riss (08:09):
The public is too harsh the guy was a jerk in that way.
Yes, I think that, like shedoes think that she's a victim,
yeah in the or yeah, that she'sbeing harassed by the public and
that people are painting her ina light, that's probably not
true, but as far as the lawsuitgoes, I think she has to know
that.
On some level that she fw yeah,that they exaggerated and that
(08:34):
it's not fully true, and that,yeah, but that there there's.
There are other pieces thatthey weren't forthright about,
yeah.
You know, but you know, I feellike our podcast would be the
greatest platform for BlakeLively to come.
(08:57):
No, no.
Chrys (08:59):
Like we're okay, Don't bury us before we even get
started.
Riss (09:06):
No, I was going to say to come and apologize.
Chrys (09:11):
Oh, still no, we're good, she could come on confessions.
Riss (09:17):
I have a confession.
I lied.
Chrys (09:22):
Can you imagine that would be Maybe in like 20 years,
when we mean something to?
People and then she means lessPeople are less worried about it
.
So she'd just be like bring itback up.
Riss (09:34):
Tag Blake Lively.
Chrys (09:36):
Don't tag her.
We are good the most likelitigious person in the business
.
We're good, we're okay.
Riss (09:45):
People would love to hear her talk her side of the story.
Chrys (09:50):
They would roast her to oblivion, like in anybody that
wouldn't roast us for giving hera platform.
Well, we wouldn't give her aplatform, she would give us she
put, she put us on the maplet's's be real.
Riss (10:03):
It would be like we could be impartial.
Chrys (10:09):
She is so not sorry.
She went on this podcast withlike half a follower.
Did what?
Yeah, I mean sure, blake, let'stalk.
Have your people call, ourpeople can you imagine that's
(10:32):
funny.
Riss (10:34):
I mean, um, yeah, wild.
But speaking of women, thatlike embellish stories, yeah
which is so upsetting because Ifeel like we've worked so hard
to get to the point of, like,believe women, you know, but
then it's like, okay, never mind, don't just believe women.
Like maybe we do need to startasking more questions, as blake
(10:59):
lively is proving and as, yeah,like other people have proved as
well.
Do you want to tell, likethere's yeah, we can get into it
.
Chrys (11:08):
Um, I will say, like due process I think is always
important, but I think, yeah,this, these stories suck.
It's suck for they suck reallybadly for people that experience
real situations and because Ifeel like I don't know, I feel
like for those cases, right, youshould be for victims of sa, or
(11:29):
like harassment or whatever.
They should be, like innocentuntil proven guilty to you know
like they should be.
We should probably assume it'strue until we find out that it's
not in those instances.
Yeah, but yeah, there was this.
Riss (11:47):
It is like such a hard, it's such a hard thing to
balance Because it's like, yeah,you don't know who, like a lot
of the time, yeah, I don't know,just knowing who the victim is
in the situation.
Chrys (12:01):
Yeah, you know, because, like, in this, like the the
situation, yeah, you know,because like, and that's like
the blake lively for example,like justin baldoni is the
victim and yeah, like being,unless there's something we
haven't seen, but everythingthat she claimed has been
debunked.
So it's like with footage, it'slike yeah what are we doing?
Riss (12:20):
like his career is taking a hit, for sure he's being yeah,
well, I hope he gets back now.
Chrys (12:25):
Right with him.
Yeah, clearing his name, butstill sucks, and I mean this
whole thing at the very least, Ithink he should be financially
compensated for his legal fees.
Yeah for sure.
Yeah, yeah, but I'm not surewho saw this, but it was all
over my for for you page atleast the story about um
(12:46):
caroline miller, um at walmart.
Riss (12:49):
She was what you just remembered a name.
Oh my gosh, chris neverremembers names.
I'm bad at that.
I'm very proud.
Chrys (12:59):
The only reason I did do you want to hear the connection?
It makes no sense, but iled, Iwas trying to Google her name
earlier and I typed in Carolineand it showed up as Caroline
Forbes from Vampire Diaries, andthen Miller is easy to remember
.
So I was like, oh yeah,Caroline.
That's a smart way to remembernames.
I need to connect it tosomething that means to me.
(13:22):
Vampire Diaries ruled my lifefor a few years there.
I love it Anyway.
Yeah, so she's at Walmart.
She's taking like an electric,like electric, that's what it is
called.
Right, the electric like chair?
No.
Riss (13:38):
Not the electric chair.
Chrys (13:41):
As soon as you said it, I was like nope, that's wrong.
What is it?
I don't know.
Mechanical, it's not.
It's not a bowl, I don't know.
What is it.
What is it?
Maybe it is an electrical?
Um, I've forgotten all thenames now.
(14:03):
Uh, it's one step forward, fivebackwards.
Hold on.
Riss (14:09):
Um, it's just, it is the wheelie chair and it's like not
a wheelchair, but it's Like umElectric chair.
No.
Chrys (14:26):
Because you're thinking like like death row.
Riss (14:28):
Yeah, okay, yeah, my brain went there.
You said electric chair, that'swhere it goes.
Chrys (14:37):
Yeah, I googled like electric wheelchair and that's
what it is, I think Motorizedchair.
All right, my dudes, you knowwhat I'm talking about.
Riss (14:48):
Okay, the chair, you know whatever not that chair,
whatever, I didn't help myselfscooter chair.
Chrys (14:57):
Scooter chair, sure, that's what we'll reference it
as yeah, there you go.
Um, she was on it with her twokids.
Uh, I guess she said that shewas like she took one just
because, like, her kids wantedto ride on one, which some
people were already kind ofpissed about.
Um, that they're only forpeople who are disabled.
I mean, I did use them when Iwas pregnant.
(15:18):
I feel like that's valid, thatcounts, and I have sciatica, so
like sometimes, if my leg islike locked up, I just use this
chair, but so like I feel like II feel like an imposter when I
do, though, even when I wasfully pregnant, I'm like I
probably am just lazy, but itfeels like my pelvic bone is
about to explode.
I count it.
(15:39):
Okay, I feel as bad just doingconfessions throughout like do.
I need to feel bad about this asa professional.
Riss (15:48):
No, thank you, you want social work girl.
Chrys (15:53):
Um, anyway, she, yeah, so she was on it and she's like
clearly having trouble with it,like in the footage, she's like
bumping into everything andwhich is important, because this
guy comes up to her and well,maybe we tell her version first.
She said that this guy came upto her and asked her where the
again the burp is like halfwaymy throat of my throat.
(16:17):
It's like too much coke zerosorry, I'm like dying just burp,
I can't.
It's stuck.
It's like it just comes up tolike here, just force it, it's
like really push it.
I'm worried about what else isgoing to happen.
Whatever It'll go out, whatever.
Anyway, she is at Walmart.
(16:39):
This guy comes up to her andasks her where the Tylenol is.
She says that she points to itand as soon as she points, her
two-year-old or however old yearold is on her lap.
And she said that the manlaunched at her kid and like
tried to grab him and so shegrabs her kid and they're like
doing a tug-of-war for like 10seconds, which is a long time if
(17:01):
you think about like yeah yeah,that probably sounded bad on
the video.
Now that I think about it my armrubbing on the sofa, whatever,
sounded kinky.
Anyway, we're gonna keep moving.
So, um, yeah, so like she'sgoing with this guy.
Apparently this didn't happen,so it's okay that we're laughing
(17:23):
, um, so yeah, and he, I guessshe gets the kid back and I
supposedly.
He said to her oh I was tryingto get him off your lap so you
could come help me, which makesno sense.
If he thought she was disabled,yeah Right, because you would
assume she's disabled if she'son the thing she's on, yeah.
Riss (17:43):
Not the scooter chair, unless she had mentioned already
that she wasn't, or something.
She's just driving around likesorry, sorry I'm not supposed to
be using this, just playingwith my kids maybe, um, yeah, so
then this man got arrested.
Chrys (18:00):
He, I think he's still in jail and it's been like a month
.
That's so sad I would be so sadI could not point where you're
oh girl, no, josh, is like,let's go camping.
I'm like, why would I do thatto myself?
Like no, like I know I should.
(18:21):
I know I should want to,because it's like, let's be
adventurous.
But like I need my bed, I needmy heating pad, I need, like, my
fan.
I need so many things.
I need the right conditionsplus my, like, insomnia meds to
fall asleep.
Riss (18:36):
I don't want to be out in the woods I need like a
different source ofentertainment every like 10
minutes.
You know what am I gonna do ina cell?
Chrys (18:47):
I'm constantly trying to avoid like sitting down and like
just chilling with my thoughts.
I'm just trying to stay busy.
That would be hard props topeople that do it.
Riss (19:03):
Congrats, special, shout out, we're gonna watch that one
back.
Chrys (19:09):
I was half thinking camping, half thinking jail as
the same thing.
So don't go to jail, kids stayin school.
Riss (19:16):
But and don't go camping.
I would especially be so madabout being in jail if I was
there for something I didn't doalso we're trying to help or
like, because what actuallyhappened in?
Chrys (19:28):
they released the footage .
He asked her for the tylenolthing.
He kind of walks away.
She keeps driving.
She hits a shelf, her babyalmost falls.
The guy comes over, picks thebaby up, puts it on her lap,
keeps walking, goes to get histylenol.
It shows the lady two secondslater bumping into another shelf
and then running over anotherone of her kids foot and this
(19:50):
other guy coming over andpicking that baby up and putting
up on the thing to help her.
Also, like what is happening?
Like having kids is hard,overwhelming.
Kids are crazy, sure.
But like why are we runningover our children with this
scooter chair?
Like, yeah, what is going on?
Like let's get a regular cart,put your children on the thing.
And like buckle them down yeah,no, yeah, very very weird.
(20:16):
It's not a playground, it's justnot the place.
And like there's shelveseverywhere.
Like what if you bump into ashelf and it falls on you?
Riss (20:21):
like I don't like know how to use it too.
Like it seems like it's herfirst time riding around in one
of those.
Chrys (20:28):
Yeah, I don't understand.
You're not doing very well atit either anyway, yeah, it
should all be a non-issue, trulylike.
Riss (20:36):
I don't even think any of that is a problem until dot dot
dot keep going.
Chrys (20:42):
Yeah wait what I got lost for a second.
Riss (20:48):
None of that is a problem, like none of that is a problem
until you find out she tries toblame this guy.
Chrys (20:55):
Oh, yeah, he like, and he even comes back when he gets
his tylenol.
He walks past her and he's likeI found it.
And she's like cool, and heleaves, pays for his stuff and
goes.
And then she like calls thepolice, I guess, and then goes
on the news and like is talkingone of the videos she has her
baby on her lap and she's likedid someone try to take you away
from mama?
And the baby's like yeah, butlike, yeah, like you're leading
(21:18):
the witness.
She's like like you can do thatwith kids.
If you turn to him and say,like are you so excited about
the volcano that just erupted,he'd be like yay, like he has no
idea what you're saying.
Yeah, um, yeah.
And yeah, says that she had atug of war with him.
And anyway, the story that weinitially said completely lied
about the interaction, which islike why, why are we wasting our
time?
Why are we wasting the policetime?
(21:38):
Why are we blaming this guy fortrying to be nice?
Like isn't that terrible thatsometimes, like you're just
trying to be the good person,like trying to be nice, trying
to be helpful, and then likepeople turn around and just spit
in your face like this.
Like what, honestly, I would?
That would be my origin story.
Riss (21:58):
I would like be a villain forever after that I know I
would be some like you can't doa nice thing for anybody.
You can't talk to people whenyou're out and about without
somebody accusing you ofsomething.
What world do we live in?
Chrys (22:14):
I know and it's like dude , let the kid it puts into
question.
Right, like if you're in thegrocery store, wherever, like
there's a kid falling, like doyou not pick them up?
Like you just mind your ownbusiness.
Riss (22:24):
Like that seems like not the world I want to live in
because obviously like you haveto be careful and and stuff.
Chrys (22:29):
There's creeps everywhere and stuff.
But if someone's just clearlyhelping you, I don't understand.
Like I was listening to adifferent podcast the other day
and there was a story where Idon't know if it was like Am I
the Asshole?
Or I can't remember what theReddit, whatever it was.
But this guy was at work or orlike had a work dinner or
(22:54):
something, and this one girlstarted choking.
So he gave her like the hamletor whatever, and she like was,
she was getting like purple.
She spit it out, she was fine,he saved her life and she
reported him to hr.
It was in front of everyone.
He didn't touch herinappropriately.
He literally like it is like aphysical thing that you're doing
, you're getting behind theperson and like slamming on
(23:15):
their stomach, but but like thealternative would have been for
her to choke and die.
Yeah like it was an emergency.
Yeah, and everyone likeapplauded him like if it had
been a bad thing, like I don, Idon't know, Kind of a crazy
thing.
So she reported him.
He kind of got in trouble.
They were supposed toinvestigate it.
They talked to witnesses.
(23:35):
They were like that's not true,Like she was choking like for
like a second before he liketried to help and then he
stopped like inviting her tothings as friends to hang out.
He would only let her come ifit was multiple people and
whatever With reason, Becauseyou just want to be safe.
(23:57):
You need to protect yourself.
It's hard to run fromaccusations if you're getting
them.
And again, false accusationsare not the rule.
They're the exception most ofthe time, but the exception
still not the rule.
They're the exception most ofthe time, but the exception
still like hurts the rule.
You know, yeah, but yeah, heanyway.
So then she was like yeah, likeI already explained it to hr, I
(24:19):
know they're like that's notwhat you're trying to do.
I just have some trauma that Ineed to deal with, but like I
feel like you're excluding mefrom hanging out and like you're
avoiding me and it's like youcan't have it both ways.
Riss (24:30):
Yeah, and yeah, yeah, it's like I mean.
And if, like, if there's trauma, then yeah, like you don't know
what, what is going to pushthat button.
You know what's going to incitemore, what's going to trigger
that's the right word what'sgoing gonna trigger that?
Yeah, and for his own likeprotection, like, like, what do
(24:54):
you do?
Chrys (24:56):
seriously, it puts him in a like a, stuck between a rock
and a hard place and it'sunderstandable, like if you have
a history and for you to havecertain triggers like that.
Riss (25:05):
I understand that but from his perspective it's like
damned if you do, damned if youdon't 100.
Chrys (25:12):
But I'm saying like she knows that, but doesn't she also
know that she would?
The alternative is she wouldhave died in that situation and
he was trying to save her life,like I get that maybe physically
.
It made her uncomfortable afterthe fact when she was not
choking and had a chance tothink about it like.
I understand that, but thatdoesn't make it his fault yeah,
no 100.
Riss (25:33):
That like weirdly makes me think of a of a new series on
netflix.
Have you it's?
Uh, it's a doctor one, I can'tremember what it's called pulse.
Chrys (25:47):
I started it.
Yes, I haven't finished it.
You just reminded me of that.
Honestly, another one of them.
Another one of them just likedied off.
It's like I binged it.
I fell asleep.
Riss (25:57):
It doesn't exist anymore, it's it's so interesting and I
feel like it's like it'll becontroversial, whatever side
that like you take with it.
So it's like a little iffy toeven get into it, yeah, but I
just think it's like it's veryinteresting how the whole plot
(26:19):
is.
The whole premise of the thingis that like she is in love with
this guy, they have like aserious relationship and she
reports them to HR because ofhow their relationship affects
their work environment.
But reporting him to HR likeruins his aspirations and his
(26:47):
career.
And it's this question of like,if loved him, why did you do
that?
Chrys (26:51):
but also, is it right to not report it if it is affecting
your progress in your careeranyway, it's that was really
interesting to watch because,like, the more you watch, the
more like confused it getsbecause it's like oh, it does
seem like he's kind of like likestanding in the way of you
(27:17):
getting opportunities at work.
If you don't, if you're notgoing along with like hanging
out with him or giving him ashot, but then you do like him.
Riss (27:22):
But it's also like and there's also like and and for
her, that there's like thisopposite of like being with him,
he has a lot of influence andbeing with him, he has a lot of
influence and so being with himpushes her further in her career
, but she doesn't feel like she.
She doesn't want it, I guess,if it's not what she deserves,
(27:43):
yeah, you know.
So there's this like, yeah, thisgray area of like Is it okay,
is it not?
And don't shit where you eat,don't pee in the pool, you
swimming yeah, I mean it's alesson, right, like to be really
careful.
Chrys (28:02):
There's like reasons why, there's rules and like a full
process.
Whenever you like, get into arelationship with someone that
you're in that type of situationwith, like you probably should
avoid that if you can.
No 100.
Riss (28:16):
But I would be like curious, what like?
What would?
What would you do?
Like not you, but like thepeople, our listeners, you
listening at home or whereveryou are, you don't have to just
listen at home.
Um, what, what would you do inthat situation?
Is that like, is that somethingyou would report or no?
Chrys (28:37):
yeah, I guess I haven't finished.
So did you finish the show?
Do we like get an answer likewhy they broke up or how that
went down?
Because I guess, yeah, as faras I know, I only know that,
like they were like livingtogether, people didn't know,
and then she reported him.
Riss (28:53):
I have a piece missing yeah, do you want me to tell you
spoiler?
I'll still watch it.
Chrys (28:58):
I like spoilers.
It makes me feel safe, I knowwhat's coming.
Riss (29:04):
I know I'm like anxious, like please well, essentially,
they go to um, this retreat, um,for all the doctors, and they
are talking in a room and heends up telling her that he
loves her and she gets reallyemotional about it and she says
(29:25):
she loves him too.
And then, um, and she says sheloves him too, and then, um,
it's been a while, so I don'tremember like exactly, but then
she gets really afraid of, like,how this is gonna affect both
of their careers.
Um, and they get into kind ofan argument about it.
(29:46):
That it's like an interestingargument.
They get in an argument aboutit.
She feels really she's going upfor to be the resident is that
what it is?
Chief resident, chief residentnext year?
And it's between her and thisother guy.
And then, as soon as, like,they say they love each other,
(30:09):
that kind of messes with thingswhere she doesn't know if she's
gonna get that position becauseof her own efforts or because of
him.
Yeah and oh, I know I'mbutchering it because I know
that there's more angles to it.
It's not just like that blackand white.
Chrys (30:30):
Yeah, and I know this is probably the wrong take, but
like win-win, a win is a win,it's bad.
Girls, take what you can get,I'm like I'm going to get this
job and I have this boyfriendthat loves me.
Like okay, yeah, no, I know,and so, but no, I know, and so,
(30:52):
but I get it.
I mean it's like her app forlike.
I mean sit him down like one ofyou transfers, sit him down and
say like, don't push for thingsfor me.
Like yeah, just like don't.
Riss (30:58):
Don't send him my way anything, but don't say anything
.
Yeah, um and yeah.
So then they get in thisargument about that, and then
there's something else to dowith his career and she thinks
that, like that, now she has toprotect him, for I don't know,
but it's like it feels very Idon't know.
(31:19):
It's just interesting, like Ialmost I I felt I felt kind of
bad for him because he's gettinglike everybody at work thinks
he's like a predator orsomething, and yeah, what it
really was was just he told herhe loved her and there's again
there's more, there's more thatgoes into it that's why I'm like
(31:40):
yeah, but like so I'd be socurious if anybody has the
perspective.
I kind of side more with him alittle bit in this whole thing.
But if anybody sides more withher, I'd be curious to hear like
why, why, um, and her, she haslike a traumatic past where for
her it's like really hard toaccept that anybody loves her
(32:03):
and so that's like triggered alittle bit too, but still not a
good enough reason to yeah Ithink I don't know what people
sometimes don't understand isthat hr is not for you, it's for
the company, the establishment,the hospital, whatever it is.
Chrys (32:27):
It's for them, it's to protect them legally, right,
that's what they're doing at theend of the day, and so like
they want to try to keep youfrom filing a lawsuit.
So I think one thing that andthis kind of sucks, I guess too,
because there are differentsituations, but I feel like if
you are willing to go to hr, youhave to be willing for it to be
(32:51):
public.
Right, that's what you'reagreeing to.
So I think in that situation,what I disagree with is like she
felt wronged, which makes sense, but I think she would know,
right, the impact that going tohr would have, you know.
So I think you have to bewilling to be public and say we
were in a full-blownrelationship that was consensual
(33:13):
, yeah, but we were.
You know, I was worried aboutus making decisions that like
it's a little nuanced yeah,whatnot, maybe be
straightforward about it.
I know that it's like puttingyour business out there, but at
the same time, I feel like youowe that person that much,
because otherwise they thinkthat this guy like did something
horrible, did somethingnon-consensual to you.
(33:34):
Um, right, like, I feel likeyou have to be willing for that.
I do think that it is kind ofnuanced because, like, if you
were actually like sexuallyharassed or assaulted at work or
something like, you are owedmore privacy than that, yeah,
but I feel like in her case, Ifeel like she should have been
willing to be more honest, atleast I.
(33:56):
The last episode that I watched, I think, was like it coming
out that they were livingtogether because she was trying
to keep it a secret, which I get.
It's your life, you want tokeep it private, but like I
don't think it was enough toruin each other's lives, right,
yeah it was just like yeah, itwas just an interesting.
Riss (34:14):
I thought it was interesting, I don't know.
It was yeah.
Yeah, I don't know, and this isnot to say that you shouldn't
go to HR and that you shouldn'tlike.
Chrys (34:29):
You should.
Riss (34:30):
But I'm saying like, like, seek private legal help if you
can I guess, like you and youshould use all your resources,
but and be aware of, like if,depending on the claim that
you're making, like how that'sgonna affect you and the person.
Chrys (34:50):
Yeah.
Riss (34:52):
Right Again.
There's plenty of situationswhere you probably shouldn't
even care how the other personis going to be affected Like
they deserve it.
Yeah, but in her situation Ithink that she maybe owed him a
little bit more.
Yeah, as somebody who she loved.
Chrys (35:14):
Like, did they break up and he retaliated?
No, okay, because if that hadhappened that would make more
sense, I guess.
No, I don't know.
Riss (35:22):
It's yeah complicated, it was just yeah interesting Anyway
, yeah, let us know what youguys think if you watched it.
Chrys (35:30):
But again, I will say if something happens at work, seek
private legal help and then gofrom there.
I feel like that comes firstProps to the hospital because
they don't know what happened.
I guess maybe they have partsof the story, I don't know.
But in a lot of cases whenwomen come forward and men I
(35:50):
guess, more often women, let'sbe for real the woman gets let
go a lot of times.
Yeah, Like stats are super sadaround it, Like, especially if
the guy is higher up.
Oh, yeah, Like they don't getrid of that guy most of the time
, which I think in thatsituation he was her supervisor,
right?
Yeah, so props to them for like, like getting rid of him, I
(36:17):
guess.
But the situation maybe wasmore nuanced than that.
Riss (36:24):
But, yeah, well, that was depressing, you know that took a
real downturn.
Um what are?
Some good things happening inthe world I don't know sad um
that note.
Chrys (36:40):
I know, let me think um.
Literally, I only wrote downthe scandalous things.
I guess, okay, this is not goodbut it's, and I feel like
that's good enough right now.
Have you guys seen this?
Like the, I forget his name nowit's like Menugate on TikTok.
(37:01):
I need to see if I can find hisname, but it's going to start
playing audio.
I'm so sorry.
No, it didn't, menugate, heyit's me that guy Cody Cody AT.
cody is his tiktok.
Anyway, he's been living inapparent.
I don't listen.
Okay, I'm gonna start with this.
(37:21):
I read some comments.
Some people are like this isobviously a skit, it got me
which is not hard to do.
Riss (37:28):
That's me with.
Like every AI post ever.
It's like a freaking polar bearsleeping on a boat with other
people and I'm like, wow,beautiful Nature is amazing.
The first person I showed to.
It's like look at the feet Likethose are polar bear feet
(37:48):
Anyway.
Sometimes it's hard to tell.
I know it's hard.
I'm just a feet Like those arepolar bear feet Anyway.
Chrys (37:52):
Sometimes it's hard to tell.
I know it's hard, I'm just agirl.
Yeah, what do you want from me?
No, but it's really interesting.
He like I went on a deep diveat like 3 in the morning, which
makes this less reliable.
But he's been posting for likefour years that he's living in
this apartment complex that'ssupposedly like empty and
(38:15):
basically how he moves into thisplace and some guys are putting
like these Chinese menus in thedoors or whatever, of every
house, of every apartment in hiscomplex, and he's walking
around and he's like it's beenlike five days None of these
doors have been opened becausethe Chinese menu is still in the
door, Between like the door andthe door frame.
(38:38):
So he's like what is happening?
So he starts filming it and hefilms like all over his complex
and it's the same thing.
And then, like he's walkingaround outside it's like dark,
Like it's seven, whatever time,it is night time, all of the
lights are off in a complex wait, I may have missed this.
Riss (38:58):
Did he just move into this complex, so this is the first
few videos.
Chrys (39:02):
It started four years ago .
He still lives there and it'sstill just like him okay.
So he goes to like the parking,like there's a bunch of cars
with boots on them, like they'resupposed to be getting towed or
whatever, but the dates on itare like a year, multiple months
Like, and these cars areobviously like abandoned.
(39:23):
A lot of them have been hit andlike they don't look like
they're drivable anymore.
There was one that had likegunshots on the windows yeah, so
like spooky one.
Let's pray for him.
I don't know what's going onthere, but they need to use this
.
I don't know what's happening,but isn't that crazy?
(39:45):
And also like how could that bea skit?
And then at some point someoneum set off the alarm or whatever
, and so he goes outside.
No one comes outside, yeah.
And then he gets an email frommanagement saying that someone
pulled the fire alarm and hegoes around the full building
recording the walls and stuffand there is no fire thing to be
(40:06):
pulled yeah, so he's like whatdo you mean?
someone did this like there'snothing for someone to pull and
then, like he starts saying thathe thinks that like someone is
putting props out of like trashand things, because he sees like
these cans being put outside ofthese doors but they don't have
(40:27):
trash in them, but the becausethey have trash, valet or
whatever, but like his trash isnot picked up yet so they
haven't come, but there's notrash in these bins that are
being left outside for the valettrash.
Hmm, I thought it was a littlespooky.
I don't know, I feel like it'sweird spooky.
Riss (40:44):
Sounds like a truman show, right, yeah it's crazy.
Chrys (40:49):
I don't again, I don't know if it's real.
If someone knows, wait, sothat's it.
Oh yeah, pretty much, we don'tknow he's still there.
Riss (41:00):
He's just living there.
Nobody else lives there, and heonly started noticing this
recently.
Chrys (41:05):
No, he's been posting about it for four years and he
still lives there.
Riss (41:08):
Yeah, this is the kind of like horror movie kind of thing
that you're like dude leave.
Chrys (41:13):
You know why he hasn't left?
Because he's a boy.
Riss (41:16):
Oh, I was going to say because he's probably making
money on TikTok.
Chrys (41:19):
That too.
But at some point wouldn't youjust like get a better place,
Find a new story?
Riss (41:26):
Yeah, so interesting, I know.
Chrys (41:31):
Huh, this reminds me of another one too.
This was a while ago, but therewas this girl.
Did you ever see the Listen?
This is I have insomnia, sosometimes I don't sleep and I
spend time on TikTok.
So don't judge me, but a fewyears ago or a few months ago, I
can't remember, I have theopposite of insomnia.
Riss (41:50):
I sleep too much.
I need that.
Chrys (41:53):
I slept like four hours straight the other night and I
woke up like, wow, that hasn'thappened in a long time.
Wow, really, yeah, four hoursLike not in, like a stretch.
Riss (42:03):
Hmm, if I slept only four hours I would not be able to
work.
Like would be broken.
Chrys (42:12):
yeah, that day, I mean, I feel broken, like unless I take
like nyquil or something orlike in some events, I can't
just do it naturally likeinteresting, I don't know why,
um, but yeah, there's this girlwho posted this thing on tiktok
a while back where, like she wasbuilding, like I think she had
(42:32):
just moved into this house butshe was building a fence around
her house, and they starteddigging to put down the fence
and they like found a rolled uprug, and so she filmed it and
like posted it on TikTok.
Like isn't this so weird?
Like it was pretty deep and itwas rolled up and everyone was
like, put the shovel down andcall the police, there's
(42:56):
probably a body.
Oh whoa, I just saw your facechange completely.
Riss (43:03):
It didn't even cross my mind.
I was like why?
What was the tea?
Chrys (43:10):
People must really like old rugs.
Yeah, yeah, I was like, why arepeople wearing?
Riss (43:13):
rugs every movie ever, I know well, now it clicked.
Chrys (43:18):
Yeah, it makes sense yeah , call the police, girlfriend.
I know I probably would havethought of it immediately either
.
I only did because I hadalready seen the comments, but I
was like anyway, so there wasthis whole thing, like it was
also really weird because shedid call the police and they
brought out, like I don't know,like excavators came and like
(43:40):
the csi people and the fbi, likeall these people came and she,
like was recording most of it,which she may or may not have
been allowed to do, I don't know.
But now, like up close, she hadto stay in her house, um, but
she was filming from likeoutside what was happening, like
she was live for a good portionof the day or something.
And the weird thing is that theybrought out the dogs at first
(44:02):
to like see if there was areason to even dig, and I forget
what it's called like when thedog like find something, it's
like they sniffed it out.
No, it something.
It's like they Sniffed it out.
No, it's like.
It's like they there's like aword for it it's like they go to
the spot and they sit orsomething.
They usually do that when likethey spot whatever.
(44:23):
There's a name, I don't knowwhat it is, but they like
basically made it so like theyhad determined that there was a
body.
Yeah, and so that's when theybrought out all the big guns and
they were like out thereforever and like moving around
dirt, like they like destroyedher back um, backyard, pretty
much.
They like put most of it, itlike together ish after, but it
(44:47):
was pretty much like just dirteverywhere, and they told her
that they didn't find a body,but they took a bunch of like it
seemed like they took the rugand a bunch of stuff.
Aliens, what Anyway?
Anyway, not aliens, I meanmaybe aliens, I don't know.
Riss (45:04):
Well, I don't know, are they covering something up,
something that she shouldn'tknow about?
I think they definitely coveredit up.
Chrys (45:08):
I think know about.
I think they definitely coveredit up.
I think they found a bodybecause would they tell her be
like, oh yeah, update yourtiktok people, like it would
probably hurt their case?
I would think, right, theywould have to.
I feel like they would tell her, would they?
Riss (45:21):
I feel like that would be like.
The normal procedure would bethat like, yeah, we found a body
, and then I don't, I don't knowbecause what if?
Chrys (45:29):
because she was live on t , on TikTok and obviously like
posting about it.
I feel like, if they have to doan investigation and find out
whose body it was to close acurrent case, well, maybe with a
TikTok thing.
I don't know if they would,maybe they would, I don't know.
I just assume everyone's lyingto me it's more mysterious.
Riss (45:50):
Well, but no, okay.
So I guess what I'm saying islike I feel like they would tell
her.
I feel like that would be thenormal thing in any other
situation.
Is that they would tell theperson, yeah, but something
sketchy feels like is going onright a little bit.
Chrys (46:05):
Or like what if they suspected her, would they?
They're allowed to lie.
Riss (46:08):
That's the thing, right like they're legally allowed to
lie and if it's like, if it'snot a body, then what?
Chrys (46:18):
was it, I don't know why would the dogs have found?
Riss (46:20):
anything, and was she not watching at all times?
Chrys (46:24):
it's kind of hard to explain because I watched some
of the live.
Basically, like they told herthat she couldn't leave her
house and she had like the likea back sliding door and her
backyard was pretty big and sothey were just out there.
They had like stuff like allaround like covering the area
that they were gonna dig andwhatever.
(46:44):
They had a bunch of people, abunch of vehicles and whatever,
and so they only let her outthere once.
They kind of put most thingsback and took the rug and
whatever.
And so they only let her outthere once.
They kind of put most thingsback and took the rug and
whatever evidence that theyneeded, like why would you take
the rug if there's nothing to it?
Maybe, maybe they look, maybeit was a conspiracy theory or
there, but maybe it's just thatthey need to log what happened
(47:06):
or whatever.
But I would think that theyfound something yeah like, or
maybe it was just like, I don'tknow.
I guess maybe they found drugsrolled up it.
They were trying to make agiant joint, I don't know.
Like, why would the dog sit, orwhatever?
Why would it like alert thatthere's something?
(47:27):
If there isn't anything, itcould have been an animal, I
guess, wouldn't it?
Riss (47:37):
Alright, they gave up One of our lights just turned off.
Chrys (47:45):
We don't know why.
So it's Lolly's turn to talkwhile I fix it.
Riss (47:48):
Yeah, no, Very weird it was that it Was that like is
that the end of the story?
Chrys (47:58):
They just like I want to stop telling you stories.
You keep saying is that it?
Riss (48:03):
I mean like I got really excited about it.
Okay, well, I mean mean justlike when I ask is that it?
It's like did?
Did she do any more digging?
Is there anything?
Chrys (48:16):
I do have a follow-up.
What happened was she got abunch of followers from it.
Someone hacked her account andtook all her money.
Oh, from the views that she got.
Oh, that's sad.
Yeah, that's the onlydevelopment I know.
That's upsetting.
We can reach out and say, hey,what happened with the wreck?
Maybe she'll come on, we'llhave her on.
Yeah, it's like, tell us moreyeah and tell us what's your?
(48:39):
Confession.
It's like did you kill him?
Like, is that a body that youknow you're responsible for?
yeah, maybe she's I haven't seenanything else pop up of hers.
Riss (48:53):
These are the questions we need answered.
Yeah, but yeah, that's anotherepisode.
Thanks for joining us.
Yeah, if you like our content,follow us on TikTok at
TheRealTSBU, follow us on anypodcast platform we're on all of
(49:14):
them and YouTube under theStays Between Us.
Yeah, spill the tea, sip thesecrets and shut the hell up
about it.
Chrys (49:28):
And don't forget the Stays Between Us.
See ya so aggressive.
And don't forget the staysbetween us.
See ya so aggressive like.
Riss (49:38):
There's no way to make that sound like cute.
Chrys (49:41):
I think this is because the computer shut off.
Riss (49:44):
Oh yes, that makes sense.
That's fine.
Yeah, and we were at an hour.
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