December 23, 2024 • 16 mins
Ever found yourself caught in the whirlwind of an emotionally charged conversation with a loved one, wondering how to keep the peace? Let's venture into the intricate dance of patience within family relationships. Sharing personal stories, I explore how patience acts as the bedrock of healthy communication, especially in marriage and parenting. Interruptions can derail an exchange, but with patience and strategy, meaningful dialogue flourishes. Journey with me through the nuances of planning budget-friendly luxury travel, where patience and timing convert potential mishaps into unforgettable family experiences. My tale of booking flights to Hawaii reveals how waiting for the right deal can unlock the door to cost-effective and memorable adventures.
Imagine navigating the complex world of booking flights with points, where patience and flexibility reign supreme. In this episode, I unravel my unconventional strategies for saving on points, such as exploring multiple airports and dates to secure the best deal. It's a path filled with challenges, but one that fosters a deeper familial connection through travel. Reflecting on a memorable trip to Hawaii, I unveil how these journeys knit families closer together, fostering understanding and unity. Embark on this exploration of love, patience, and the transformative power of travel as a catalyst for nurturing the bonds that hold us together.
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You are listening to.
Travel is Cheaper than Divorce.
This podcast for all those whomay be struggling with their
spouse or their children and therelationship with them.
We help give you tips andtricks by using travel as the
means to be able to help yourrelationships with your family.
I will provide those tricks andother ways to help travel with
(00:29):
little or no cost.
So let's get into it.
Will you please have patiencewith me.
Please have patience with yourkids.
Please have patience.
If you've been married longenough, you'll hear these words
from your spouse's mouth.
Please have patience with yourkids.
Please have patience.
If you've been married longenough, you'll hear these words
(00:51):
from your spouse's mouth Justhave patience, just have
patience.
This is also a good nomer forhow you should deal with your
spouse during very emotionalconversations, during really
strong emotional conversations.
It's a good tact, in myexperience, to just be patient.
(01:14):
Let them have their say.
In the few we'll call themheated discussions I've had with
my spouse I shouldn't say few,we've had a lot of heated
discussions.
Almost every single one of themgoes to the point where I am
(01:34):
interrupting her somehow Becausein my mind I already know the
answer before she asks thequestion.
I don't have the patience tojust wait, just wait and let her
continue to speak until she isfinished, and then I have to
(01:57):
have the patience in myexperience with her to not
answer immediately, even still,but just let it simmer for a
second and then.
Patience is important whenyou're in a marriage.
Patience is important whenyou're raising children.
Patience is important in somany areas in your life, but
(02:21):
patience is especially importantwhen you're learning a new way
to travel.
I've talked in earlier episodesI've alluded to mostly.
I really haven't talked in fullextent because this is not the
place for it.
I want to talk more about thefamily here and what to do, but
(02:43):
I've talked in some measureabout traveling in luxury for
little or no cost, which is whatI teach people to do in my
business.
In that system, it requiresreally two things, two things,
that's it, two things from thepeople that are trying to learn
(03:07):
this system.
One is knowledge and the secondis patience.
I can help anybody who'swilling with the knowledge.
I have several ways of doingthat for people.
I can help you with theknowledge.
I, however, cannot help youwith the patience, because if
(03:30):
you don't have patience in thisgame, I don't want to call it a
game, but we'll call it a gameright now.
If you don't have patience inthis game, it won't work.
You will lose, you will lose.
(03:58):
Let me give you another example,a real life example, when I was
booking airfare to Hawaii formy entire family consider points
currency, which I do it stillwasn't that expensive because
you can get some good deals withpoints.
But anyways, if you're patientbecause that's the point of the
story is that the first time Isearched for flights, I did not
(04:19):
book.
I waited.
I didn't find a deal that Iwanted.
The second time I looked, Ididn't book, didn't find the
deal.
I waited, I didn't find a dealthat I wanted.
The second time I looked, Ididn't book, didn't find the
deal I wanted.
The third time, I didn't book.
I still don't find the deal Iwanted.
Now, these aren't simplesearches.
These searches take me becauseI'm looking at multiple airlines
and multiple airports to flyout from.
(04:41):
Why airports?
We can talk about that, if youwant to, in a different form.
Um, it just has to do withspending the least amount of
points possible, because pointsare currency.
But I have to make basically inthis.
In this case, I think Isearched 10 different airports
and six different cities.
(05:01):
So every time I no, no, 10different airports, pardon me,
six different dates, because youalso have to be flexible on the
dates to win in this game.
When I search for a flight, Ihave to search.
When I do a search for flights,I have to search for flights 60
different times 60.
So it's not a simple search.
When I say, on this day Isearched and didn't find
(05:22):
anything.
This day I searched and didn'tfind anything.
On this day I searched anddidn't find anything.
On this day I didn't search anddidn't find anything.
It's not a simple search.
I don't do this daily.
I can only do it when I hadtime to sit down and search 60
different flights.
Now there's programs that canhelp you with this, but still it
takes me at least over an hour.
So you see the patience part.
(05:43):
The fourth time I searched forthis flight, I finally found a
flight that I really liked incash Not in cash, pardon me in
points and I booked it.
So I booked these flights.
At this point Now I was goingwith my whole family and this
point I booked two seats for mywife and I in first class from
(06:05):
the San Jose airport inCalifornia to Honolulu, hawaii.
I booked these flights throughVirgin Atlantic.
No, no, no.
This one was through BritishAirways to book a flight on
Alaskan Airlines.
Does that sound like crazy?
It's another technique youlearn is you usually don't not,
(06:26):
usually don't, but sometimes youdon't book directly with the
airline you fly on because youcan get it cheaper through a
different airline.
It's really strange how it allworks.
It's a whole nother world, guys, I'm telling you.
So I had the patience enough towait for the flight that I want.
I had a goal amount of points Iwant to spend and I made sure
it was under that or at that orunder it.
(06:49):
In this case it was under.
Well, now I have a problem,kind of.
The problem is I have two seatsfor my wife and I and none for
the kids.
So the next thing I did is Idecided that I did not want to
book my kids' flights in points.
Now I'm basically stuck on thatflight.
(07:09):
So I had to find seats on thatflight for the children.
So you're kind of stuck, unlessyou put them on a whole
separate flight, which I wasn'twilling to do.
But imagine the patience ittakes to search and search, and
search, and search and searchagain and then nail that flight
(07:31):
that you wanted.
Not only that, I determine whenI go home based on my flight
home, because I always book.
This is another technique youlearn.
I only book one-way seatsbecause I don't care.
I'm airline agnostic, I don'tcare what airline I use.
So the flight to Honolulu wason Alaskan Airlines.
(07:57):
Then I started searching howmany days am I staying in Hawaii
?
I didn't know.
I didn't.
I had a list of dates I wantedto go home and I just found the
one that had the cheapestairfare.
Again took me more searchesagain, and that determined how
(08:19):
long we were staying in Hawaii.
Same technique I already toldyou earlier.
But do you imagine the patients?
So I just gave you someknowledge of how this works.
So I just gave you someknowledge of how this works.
But you have to have thepatience to run the searches and
do the research yourself.
I can give technique all daylong, I can give knowledge to
you all day long, but patienceis the key.
(08:47):
Patience and knowledge, both ofthem are actually the key.
Now take that same thing intoyour family.
Knowledge and patience is a keyfor your family too.
You have to know your spouse.
You have to know your childrenand not just know them with your
head.
You've got to open your heartand know them with your heart,
(09:10):
and once you know them with yourheart, it's easier to have
patience with them.
When you travel with them too,boy, do you feel like you can
have more patience with them?
Because you travel with them,you get to know them more, you
have fun together.
They will have more patiencefor you, because sometimes that
patience has to run both ways.
Your children sometimes have tohave patience with you and what
you're going through as anadult.
(09:30):
Now you're the adult in theroom, so you should be able to
have more patience with them.
You have more experience.
They also need to learn to havepatience with you and as you
grow together on these trips, onthese travels, everywhere you
go, you grow together.
You go, you grow together.
(09:54):
I remember you can tell I talkabout the Hawaii trip a lot
because that was our last majortrip together as a family, but
so it's like fresh in my mind.
But I remember going to Hawaiiand we snorkel together and
spend time in the beach togetherand I remember just feeling so
close to my children and myspouse.
I absolutely adore the tripsI'm able to take just with my
(10:18):
spouse.
We're planning one now,actually, where we don't know
Destination.
Agnostic sometimes is good too.
Get the best deals you can.
Sometimes is good too, get thebest deals you can sometimes.
Anyway, but I remember, just inthat sense, in that time that
we were in Hawaii, I got morehugs, thank yous, I love yous.
(10:45):
In the short amount of time,short-ish amount of time that we
were in Hawaii than I have in awhile.
In the short amount of time,short-ish amount of time that we
were in Hawaii that I have in awhile, your kids start loving
and they start seeing and it'snot because you're spending
money on them.
It really literally has littleto do with that.
It really has to do with thememories and because, honestly,
(11:11):
it's a lot easier to havepatience with your children when
they're having so much fun.
They're not doing anythingstupid at the time.
So, anyway, so you have to haveknowledge and patience, not
only for the points system, butyou have to have knowledge and
patience for your family so youcan enjoy the time you have with
them wherever you may be,wherever you may go.
(11:33):
Because this I mean, we talkabout the points and miles
system, but we could also talkabout the family and spouse
system.
Everybody's system in theirhousehold works differently.
Some people are white collar,some people are blue collar.
Some people have both parentsthat work.
(11:55):
Some people only have oneparent that works.
Some people it's just the momthat works and not the dad.
Either way, the dynamics don'tmatter ultimately in the family,
because it always takes thesame things Patience and
knowledge and heart.
It takes that heart too.
(12:16):
There's no heart when it comesto necessarily with you know,
with the point system.
That's not a heart thing.
It's basically, like I said,just knowledge and patience.
But that's because we'redealing with, you know, numbers,
cold money, all that stuff.
We're not dealing with peoplein your family.
(12:37):
You're dealing with people.
So it's knowledge and patienceand it's also love.
I mean, I don't know if I'veever asked this in any of the
episodes that have been releasedso far.
I'm just going to ask you doyou love your family enough to
take them somewhere, to use thetime and energy and sometimes
(12:59):
money or sometimes points?
Whatever way you choose to doit do you have the time and
energy and the love to take themsomewhere?
Do you have the patience andthe love to bring your family
together by taking them out oftheir house.
You ever sat down and thoughtabout that?
(13:21):
I mean, with everything thatI've said, everything that I
have said throughout thisepisode and the things I've said
in other episodes, you can seeI wanted from the very beginning
to have a family that lastsforever.
I didn't want it to last untilwe were so sick of each other we
(13:43):
had a divorce.
That's what happened with myfamily my mom and dad and it
affected me greatly.
I didn't want that for mychildren, but we were so close
so many times I was desperate.
Desperate for a solution.
I loved my spouse and mychildren enough that I wanted it
(14:10):
to work.
I was willing to have thepatience to make it work.
I was willing to do whatever ittook for it to work.
And there was no.
This podcast or anything likeit didn't exist.
Nobody was saying, as far asI've seen, that travel helps so
much with it.
My wife just said she wanted totravel.
(14:31):
I said what a great idea.
So I started doing it.
Once I figured out how to do itwith little or no cost, because
we didn't have any money.
I loved her enough to try?
Do you love your family enoughto try?
I loved her enough to try to dothe impossible, which was go
traveling with no money.
I didn't know what was going tohappen, I didn't know it was
(14:53):
going to turn into all this, butit did, because I was willing
to try.
I was willing to try.
Are you willing to try?
Are you willing to try to keepyour family together?
Are you willing to love themenough to do whatever it is?
If it's travel, I think that'sa great solution.
(15:15):
First of all, it's good for youtoo.
But if it's something else,it's something else.
But are you willing to try?
Are you willing to open yourheart to your family and to love
them?
Or are you going to pointfingers and blame and then you
end up in a place where a placewhere you think you're going to
(15:35):
be happier the grass is alwaysgreener?
They say it's not.
You lose everything, boy, doyou lose everything?
And you lose your children inthe process too.
You lose a lot of money too.
That's why, as I always say,the solution in this case, I
(16:00):
believe travel is still cheaperthan divorce.
You have been listening toTravel is Cheaper Than Divorce
with David Packer, please let usknow what you think about this
episode or any other commentsyou might have, by visiting our
website at wwwtravelpointdadcom.
(16:23):
Please join us for our nextepisode, where we continue to
explore how travel can helpbring your family together.
You are listening to.
Travel is Cheaper than Divorce.
This podcast for all those whomay be struggling with their
spouse or their children and therelationship with them.
We help give you tips andtricks by using travel as the
means to be able to help yourrelationships with your family.
I will provide those tricks andother ways to help travel with
(00:29):
little or no cost.
So let's get into it.
Will you please have patiencewith me.
Please have patience with yourkids.
Please have patience.
If you've been married longenough, you'll hear these words
from your spouse's mouth.
Please have patience with yourkids.
Please have patience.
If you've been married longenough, you'll hear these words
(00:51):
from your spouse's mouth Justhave patience, just have
patience.
This is also a good nomer forhow you should deal with your
spouse during very emotionalconversations, during really
strong emotional conversations.
It's a good tact, in myexperience, to just be patient.
(01:14):
Let them have their say.
In the few we'll call themheated discussions I've had with
my spouse I shouldn't say few,we've had a lot of heated
discussions.
Almost every single one of themgoes to the point where I am
(01:34):
interrupting her somehow Becausein my mind I already know the
answer before she asks thequestion.
I don't have the patience tojust wait, just wait and let her
continue to speak until she isfinished, and then I have to
(01:57):
have the patience in myexperience with her to not
answer immediately, even still,but just let it simmer for a
second and then.
Patience is important whenyou're in a marriage.
Patience is important whenyou're raising children.
Patience is important in somany areas in your life, but
(02:21):
patience is especially importantwhen you're learning a new way
to travel.
I've talked in earlier episodesI've alluded to mostly.
I really haven't talked in fullextent because this is not the
place for it.
I want to talk more about thefamily here and what to do, but
(02:43):
I've talked in some measureabout traveling in luxury for
little or no cost, which is whatI teach people to do in my
business.
In that system, it requiresreally two things, two things,
that's it, two things from thepeople that are trying to learn
(03:07):
this system.
One is knowledge and the secondis patience.
I can help anybody who'swilling with the knowledge.
I have several ways of doingthat for people.
I can help you with theknowledge.
I, however, cannot help youwith the patience, because if
(03:30):
you don't have patience in thisgame, I don't want to call it a
game, but we'll call it a gameright now.
If you don't have patience inthis game, it won't work.
You will lose, you will lose.
(03:58):
Let me give you another example,a real life example, when I was
booking airfare to Hawaii formy entire family consider points
currency, which I do it stillwasn't that expensive because
you can get some good deals withpoints.
But anyways, if you're patientbecause that's the point of the
story is that the first time Isearched for flights, I did not
(04:19):
book.
I waited.
I didn't find a deal that Iwanted.
The second time I looked, Ididn't book, didn't find the
deal.
I waited, I didn't find a dealthat I wanted.
The second time I looked, Ididn't book, didn't find the
deal I wanted.
The third time, I didn't book.
I still don't find the deal Iwanted.
Now, these aren't simplesearches.
These searches take me becauseI'm looking at multiple airlines
and multiple airports to flyout from.
(04:41):
Why airports?
We can talk about that, if youwant to, in a different form.
Um, it just has to do withspending the least amount of
points possible, because pointsare currency.
But I have to make basically inthis.
In this case, I think Isearched 10 different airports
and six different cities.
(05:01):
So every time I no, no, 10different airports, pardon me,
six different dates, because youalso have to be flexible on the
dates to win in this game.
When I search for a flight, Ihave to search.
When I do a search for flights,I have to search for flights 60
different times 60.
So it's not a simple search.
When I say, on this day Isearched and didn't find
(05:22):
anything.
This day I searched and didn'tfind anything.
On this day I searched anddidn't find anything.
On this day I didn't search anddidn't find anything.
It's not a simple search.
I don't do this daily.
I can only do it when I hadtime to sit down and search 60
different flights.
Now there's programs that canhelp you with this, but still it
takes me at least over an hour.
So you see the patience part.
(05:43):
The fourth time I searched forthis flight, I finally found a
flight that I really liked incash Not in cash, pardon me in
points and I booked it.
So I booked these flights.
At this point Now I was goingwith my whole family and this
point I booked two seats for mywife and I in first class from
(06:05):
the San Jose airport inCalifornia to Honolulu, hawaii.
I booked these flights throughVirgin Atlantic.
No, no, no.
This one was through BritishAirways to book a flight on
Alaskan Airlines.
Does that sound like crazy?
It's another technique youlearn is you usually don't not,
(06:26):
usually don't, but sometimes youdon't book directly with the
airline you fly on because youcan get it cheaper through a
different airline.
It's really strange how it allworks.
It's a whole nother world, guys, I'm telling you.
So I had the patience enough towait for the flight that I want.
I had a goal amount of points Iwant to spend and I made sure
it was under that or at that orunder it.
(06:49):
In this case it was under.
Well, now I have a problem,kind of.
The problem is I have two seatsfor my wife and I and none for
the kids.
So the next thing I did is Idecided that I did not want to
book my kids' flights in points.
Now I'm basically stuck on thatflight.
(07:09):
So I had to find seats on thatflight for the children.
So you're kind of stuck, unlessyou put them on a whole
separate flight, which I wasn'twilling to do.
But imagine the patience ittakes to search and search, and
search, and search and searchagain and then nail that flight
(07:31):
that you wanted.
Not only that, I determine whenI go home based on my flight
home, because I always book.
This is another technique youlearn.
I only book one-way seatsbecause I don't care.
I'm airline agnostic, I don'tcare what airline I use.
So the flight to Honolulu wason Alaskan Airlines.
(07:57):
Then I started searching howmany days am I staying in Hawaii
?
I didn't know.
I didn't.
I had a list of dates I wantedto go home and I just found the
one that had the cheapestairfare.
Again took me more searchesagain, and that determined how
(08:19):
long we were staying in Hawaii.
Same technique I already toldyou earlier.
But do you imagine the patients?
So I just gave you someknowledge of how this works.
So I just gave you someknowledge of how this works.
But you have to have thepatience to run the searches and
do the research yourself.
I can give technique all daylong, I can give knowledge to
you all day long, but patienceis the key.
(08:47):
Patience and knowledge, both ofthem are actually the key.
Now take that same thing intoyour family.
Knowledge and patience is a keyfor your family too.
You have to know your spouse.
You have to know your childrenand not just know them with your
head.
You've got to open your heartand know them with your heart,
(09:10):
and once you know them with yourheart, it's easier to have
patience with them.
When you travel with them too,boy, do you feel like you can
have more patience with them?
Because you travel with them,you get to know them more, you
have fun together.
They will have more patiencefor you, because sometimes that
patience has to run both ways.
Your children sometimes have tohave patience with you and what
you're going through as anadult.
(09:30):
Now you're the adult in theroom, so you should be able to
have more patience with them.
You have more experience.
They also need to learn to havepatience with you and as you
grow together on these trips, onthese travels, everywhere you
go, you grow together.
You go, you grow together.
(09:54):
I remember you can tell I talkabout the Hawaii trip a lot
because that was our last majortrip together as a family, but
so it's like fresh in my mind.
But I remember going to Hawaiiand we snorkel together and
spend time in the beach togetherand I remember just feeling so
close to my children and myspouse.
I absolutely adore the tripsI'm able to take just with my
(10:18):
spouse.
We're planning one now,actually, where we don't know
Destination.
Agnostic sometimes is good too.
Get the best deals you can.
Sometimes is good too, get thebest deals you can sometimes.
Anyway, but I remember, just inthat sense, in that time that
we were in Hawaii, I got morehugs, thank yous, I love yous.
(10:45):
In the short amount of time,short-ish amount of time that we
were in Hawaii than I have in awhile.
In the short amount of time,short-ish amount of time that we
were in Hawaii that I have in awhile, your kids start loving
and they start seeing and it'snot because you're spending
money on them.
It really literally has littleto do with that.
It really has to do with thememories and because, honestly,
(11:11):
it's a lot easier to havepatience with your children when
they're having so much fun.
They're not doing anythingstupid at the time.
So, anyway, so you have to haveknowledge and patience, not
only for the points system, butyou have to have knowledge and
patience for your family so youcan enjoy the time you have with
them wherever you may be,wherever you may go.
(11:33):
Because this I mean, we talkabout the points and miles
system, but we could also talkabout the family and spouse
system.
Everybody's system in theirhousehold works differently.
Some people are white collar,some people are blue collar.
Some people have both parentsthat work.
(11:55):
Some people only have oneparent that works.
Some people it's just the momthat works and not the dad.
Either way, the dynamics don'tmatter ultimately in the family,
because it always takes thesame things Patience and
knowledge and heart.
It takes that heart too.
(12:16):
There's no heart when it comesto necessarily with you know,
with the point system.
That's not a heart thing.
It's basically, like I said,just knowledge and patience.
But that's because we'redealing with, you know, numbers,
cold money, all that stuff.
We're not dealing with peoplein your family.
(12:37):
You're dealing with people.
So it's knowledge and patienceand it's also love.
I mean, I don't know if I'veever asked this in any of the
episodes that have been releasedso far.
I'm just going to ask you doyou love your family enough to
take them somewhere, to use thetime and energy and sometimes
(12:59):
money or sometimes points?
Whatever way you choose to doit do you have the time and
energy and the love to take themsomewhere?
Do you have the patience andthe love to bring your family
together by taking them out oftheir house.
You ever sat down and thoughtabout that?
(13:21):
I mean, with everything thatI've said, everything that I
have said throughout thisepisode and the things I've said
in other episodes, you can seeI wanted from the very beginning
to have a family that lastsforever.
I didn't want it to last untilwe were so sick of each other we
(13:43):
had a divorce.
That's what happened with myfamily my mom and dad and it
affected me greatly.
I didn't want that for mychildren, but we were so close
so many times I was desperate.
Desperate for a solution.
I loved my spouse and mychildren enough that I wanted it
(14:10):
to work.
I was willing to have thepatience to make it work.
I was willing to do whatever ittook for it to work.
And there was no.
This podcast or anything likeit didn't exist.
Nobody was saying, as far asI've seen, that travel helps so
much with it.
My wife just said she wanted totravel.
(14:31):
I said what a great idea.
So I started doing it.
Once I figured out how to do itwith little or no cost, because
we didn't have any money.
I loved her enough to try?
Do you love your family enoughto try?
I loved her enough to try to dothe impossible, which was go
traveling with no money.
I didn't know what was going tohappen, I didn't know it was
(14:53):
going to turn into all this, butit did, because I was willing
to try.
I was willing to try.
Are you willing to try?
Are you willing to try to keepyour family together?
Are you willing to love themenough to do whatever it is?
If it's travel, I think that'sa great solution.
(15:15):
First of all, it's good for youtoo.
But if it's something else,it's something else.
But are you willing to try?
Are you willing to open yourheart to your family and to love
them?
Or are you going to pointfingers and blame and then you
end up in a place where a placewhere you think you're going to
(15:35):
be happier the grass is alwaysgreener?
They say it's not.
You lose everything, boy, doyou lose everything?
And you lose your children inthe process too.
You lose a lot of money too.
That's why, as I always say,the solution in this case, I
(16:00):
believe travel is still cheaperthan divorce.
You have been listening toTravel is Cheaper Than Divorce
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