December 2, 2024 • 19 mins
Ever wonder if a vacation could save your relationship? Explore how travel transforms into a unique form of relationship therapy, offering a reprieve from societal norms and daily routines. Through laughter-filled anecdotes like the infamous emoji game blunder, we highlight how stepping out of your comfort zone can foster authenticity and vulnerability. Hear how travel became my personal antidote to social anxieties, allowing me to engage with diverse cultures without the looming fear of long-term embarrassment. Discover how these experiences can empower you to be more open, ultimately enhancing relationships with loved ones.
But that's not all—travel isn't just about escaping; it's about reconnecting, especially for couples looking to rekindle their romance. We delve into the opportunities travel presents for couples to rediscover the love that brought them together, offering a refreshing alternative to the costly toll of divorce. Reflect on my journey from a high-pressure corporate job to a more laid-back profession, and how embracing authenticity—both personally and professionally—has led to satisfaction and success. Join us as we explore why investing in travel might just be the best gift you can give your relationships.
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You are listening to.
Travel is Cheaper than Divorce.
This podcast for all those whomay be struggling with their
spouse or their children and therelationship with them.
We help give you tips andtricks by using travel as the
means to be able to help yourrelationships with your family.
I'll provide those tricks andother ways to help travel with
(00:29):
little or no cost.
So let's get into it.
Have you ever said something sodumb like in a group of friends?
Dumb like in a group of friends, um, that lives on for infamy?
(00:50):
Like just forever that you'reknown for something just because
you said it once, um, and then,of course, you have to face
those people again the next day.
Yeah, it's just just not one ofthe funnest things to do in
your life.
This is one of the things thathelped me Again.
(01:13):
Traveling has done a lot for me,but one of the things that it's
done has helped me get out ofmy shell and talk to people more
, because when you start totravel around, you start seeing
these other places and meetingpeople from sometimes all over
the world, depending on whereyou go, obviously, you start
(01:34):
meeting a bunch of people andthen you start talking to them.
Let me ask you this If you saysomething really dumb and stupid
around somebody who's from adifferent country that you know
you'll never see again, does itreally matter that much?
Not really right, I'll neversee you again.
You might feel dumb at the time, which is unfortunate, but
(01:59):
overall you don't feel that dumb.
You don't feel really that,that dumb as if you were saying
something in front of yourfamily or friends that you're
going to, uh, see again.
I mean, I got, let me.
Let me tell you there was onenight that, um, because I've
(02:24):
never been the most emotionalguy, I'm getting better there my
family thought it would befunny, and to them it was.
And then they end up showing avideo to my extended family, my
siblings and my parents of me.
What they did is they airplayedor mirrored their phone to the
(02:54):
projector we have in our houseand they played a little game
with me.
They put an emoji on the screenand they said what does this
emoji mean, the screen?
And they said what does thisemoji mean?
And let's just say I'm verygrateful that this video because
(03:18):
it was a video was made to showto my extended family has not
gone out into the interwebs,because it is somewhat
embarrassing because to me, allthe emojis can fall into like
three categories, maybe four.
So they put one on the screen,I say happy, and then the next
one, like that, looks like happytoo, just a different tint of
happiness.
And this is the thing goingback and forth, and I and I and
(03:42):
I challenged them because afterthey went through this and it
was all good fun, but they weremaking fun of me most of the
time because I don't understandall that.
Then I said, oh yeah, let's seeif you can do it.
So we went through the entirething again and of course they
could all do it, which was veryfunny, eye-opening for me.
(04:03):
It was really somewhatembarrassing, really, that they
could do all those things and Icouldn't.
But that's also another another.
You know another way of saying.
You know that sometimes you'renot as good as others at certain
things, and that's okay, that'sokay.
But, um, but let's just sayyou're playing that same emoji
(04:26):
game with somebody who you justmet in Hawaii.
I don't know why you do that,but let's just say you are,
you're playing that same emojigame with them, and they knew
all the answers and you did, andso basically, the same
situation.
Are you as embarrassed?
Are you as embarrassed, ormaybe, with a neighbor?
Maybe you're doing it with aneighbor.
Are you as embarrassed with theneighbor as you would be with
(04:49):
somebody you'll never see again?
Interesting to talk to otherpeople and then and other and
other things like that, and thenyou just logically have to tell
(05:10):
yourself that you'll never seethese people again.
So it doesn't really matterwhat you necessarily say.
Um, obviously you don't want tobe offensive.
I mean, that's just just a goodrule anyways, in general, not
to be necessarily offend onpurpose.
They still won't remember you,but I still don't think that's
the right way to live as a humanbeing, which is maybe a
separate thing.
(05:31):
One of the reasons I love totravel is that I can be myself,
especially when I'm travelingwith my spouse.
Now, before I didn't feel likeI could be myself around my
spouse and that was more as anin retrospect, more my fault
because I didn't show my heart.
But when I'm with my spouse andwe're traveling, I really feel
(05:53):
like I can be more myself whenI'm out, because it doesn't
matter what other people thinkof me, because I'm never going
to see any of them again in myentire life.
Likely.
You don't have to put a personaon when you're out and about
traveling.
You can just be yourself.
You know, melanie and I havebeen to places that my extended
(06:18):
family would be horrified ifthey knew that we went to those
places.
But they didn't know we werethere and so it didn't matter.
It didn't matter the otherpeople who were there, it didn't
matter to them.
Never saw them again in my life.
So yet another benefit of goingout and getting out of your own
(06:41):
environment is you don't have toworry about the people in your
environment and you don't haveto be a person for the people in
the environment.
We spend so much of our timetrying to fit into a mold, a
mold that other people want usto be.
How freeing is it to beyourself somewhere else and you
(07:01):
don't have to be in that mold?
Well, you don't really have tobe your mold at home either, and
I'm gonna talk about an exampleof that in just a second.
But when you're out and you'rearound people you don't know,
you can relax.
Why are vacations relaxing?
Well, you're not working.
I get that.
That's one thing.
You're away from your kids,hopefully, or sometimes with
your kids, but even with yourkids more relaxing and that is
(07:30):
because that is because you'reable to be yourself.
It's more relaxing.
You can lay down and beyourself.
For the longest time I've workedin white collar America.
White collar job is my prettymuch my entire adult life and
when I when I worked in thosethose fields, I put on a persona
(07:51):
.
I'm starting to realize this asI shifted away somewhat from
white collar work into what I donow, which is to teach people
how to travel for little or nocost.
I'm not necessarily in anoffice and I'm not actually
meeting with clients and all thestuff that I used to do.
(08:12):
So I don't have to put on apersona, I don't have to put on
a mask to pretend I'mprofessional.
But the thing is I stoppeddoing that about, I would say,
about 10 years ago.
I left one of the firms I wasworking at to start my own firm
and I had this firm for about 10years yeah, about 10 years but
(08:34):
when I left that other firm andI decided to start my own firm.
So in the job and the career Iwas in, it's like you need to
wear suit jackets and dressshirts and have marble floors in
the office and other thingslike that, and I tried to do
that persona.
I tried to do that persona forthe longest time.
(08:56):
I don't really mind wearing asuit, necessarily, but then it
just got to the point where, sookay, so I hired an assistant
and this assistant that I workedwith for about nine years of
the 10.
She, I told her she needed towear basically a suit, just like
(09:17):
I did.
And then she started slowly andslowly not wearing a suit and
realizing that people don'treally care.
I mean, they want you to beshowered, you know, dressed and
maybe just a little bit moreprofessional than just walking
off the street like you justwalked off the beach.
So we switched up and westarted wearing more nice polo
(09:40):
shirts and I did that throughnine of my 10 years running my
own firm.
Before I left the other firm andstarted my own, I said to one
of my coworkers I said I don'tcare, if people don't like me,
(10:02):
then they won't work with me,but I'm not changing who I am,
just so I can get the sale orjust so I can get the account.
So I stopped doing that fromthe very beginning and I ran a
fairly successful firm for awhile because I decided to be
myself and I was in everymeeting, so much so that there
(10:24):
have been several times therewas several times that my
assistant would say you know,you probably shouldn't have said
that and in retrospect Ishouldn't say something.
I used to say, like there wasone point where, like you know,
you can choose which way youwant to do.
You can work with us or not, Idon't really care, I just want
you to be comfortable.
And she's like you probablyshouldn't tell a prospective
(10:46):
client that you don't care ifthey work with you.
And I get that.
I was just trying to, you know,just be loose a little bit and
anyways.
So there are.
There are exceptions.
You also want to watch yourlanguage a little bit.
But I feel more free teachingpeople how to do this traveling
stuff than I ever did running myown financial planning firm.
(11:09):
I feel freer that I can just bebecause I do.
I was talking about travel andlearning about travel.
It relaxes me and and I can bemyself when I travel.
I feel like I can be myselfwhen I talk to my current
clients who are clients of mine.
In this new venture that I have, I feel freer than I have in a
(11:34):
long time In fact, my wife willtell you.
Since I decided, since I dideventually leave my firm or
leave running it myself, then Ihave been a lot more relaxed
(11:57):
because I don't have to hold upa certain persona.
In fact, let me tell youanother story.
It got so bad at one point aboutpersonas.
You know there are people whosay you got to separate your
work life from your personallife because you can't let your
work life flow into yourpersonal and you can't let your
personal flow into your worklife.
It's so funny, the wisdom thatpeople think is wisdom.
(12:21):
I don't.
I don't think that was reallygood wisdom.
I think you need to be yourself, no matter where you're at.
That's what I think.
I think it's healthier.
And so if you can't be yourselfin your current career and I'm
not telling you to leave, youknow you can make that decision
(12:42):
on your own.
But I could just tell you frommy experience now that I'm in a
new career field, that I that Ihad new career field in a way
that I've ever been, because mywhole life I've been in banks
and financial planning firms andit's it is different because
I'm not in banks or financialplanning firms for the first
time in my life, but I am lovingthe opportunity to help people
(13:04):
and just enjoying talking abouttravel and how to get them and
travel and for free and otherthings that I'm doing right now.
I just absolutely love doingright now.
I just absolutely love it rightnow, love it.
But I can tell you that thepersona I don't have so when it
(13:30):
came.
So now my personal, my worklife, they definitely flow
together because I'm happier inwhat I do, I can be happier at
home.
So if you think you're reallyseparating work and personal, if
you come home because your worklife was terrible and you're
like I got to separate this, I'mjust going to be happy.
It flows, guys, it flows.
(13:54):
I remember again when I wasrunning my own financial
planning firm by myself well,myself and an assistant.
I ran it that way for a longtime.
I remember that every time Iwent to work, so my wife and I
and this is before I startedopening up emotionally and other
things but we would, I would,we would be okay together and
everything would be fine.
I go to work.
I worked from home a lot and Iwent to my home office and then
(14:16):
I worked, worked, worked, workedand put my whole heart and soul
Hmm, let's back that up I putmy whole head and logic into
into what I was doing, writingfinancial plans and such and
doing investments.
Then then I'd walk out of myhome office and I come back to
her a whole different person,because I fell so far into the
(14:38):
logic spectrum and I was so muchinto this persona.
That persona came home with me.
I was already at home, I guesstechnically sometimes, but it
came out of the office with meand that type of person, she
didn't fall in love with thattype of person.
She fell in love with adifferent person.
(14:59):
She fell in love with adifferent person.
And so if your work life, ifyou're keeping up a persona,
then traveling allows you toloosen that persona and be
yourself.
And it doesn't matter whatpeople think of you, because
you're never going to see themagain.
(15:19):
A lot of them, for me is noneof them so far.
Maybe I'll meet somebodysomeday on my travels that I end
up calling and we end upconnecting or something, but for
now I've never really kind ofconnected with anybody on
traveling, enough that I've beenmore focused on my family, my
spouse, but anyway, you're nevergoing to see them again.
(15:39):
So that's another reason whyyou can connect so much better
with your spouse if you'retraveling, because if you're
travel, you're yourself again.
You're not have to be thispersona that sometimes leaks
into your personal life, so muchso that your wife's, like I,
don't even recognize who you areanymore, because the pursuit of
money is so important, your jobis so important that you had to
(16:00):
keep up a persona, and thenthat comes home with you and
maybe you're not ready to quityour job.
All right, well, I'm not goingto tell you what to do, but I
will tell you that when you'reon vacation, when you travel,
then you're able to loosen thatpersona up and become that
person again that your wife fellin love with.
It brings you closer together.
(16:20):
Just another reason whytraveling is so important.
And as far as I'm concerned,when it comes to your family and
your relationship with yourspouse, because even when I was
running the financial planningfirm, I was certainly a
different person.
When I was on vacay, when I wastraveling with my spouse, I was
(16:42):
.
I just I didn't have to worryas much.
You know, I didn't worry how tobe this professional person.
Nobody on that island.
If I was on Hawaii because I dolove Hawaii, so I always talk
about island, but professionalperson, nobody on that island.
If I was on hawaii because I dolove hawaii, so I always talk
about island.
But if I was on that island andI, I can be just me, I didn't
have to be david packer,financial advisor.
I can just be david packer, andnobody on the island knows I'm
(17:06):
a financial advisor.
Nobody on the island.
I'm not going to start sellingto people because I really just
want to be me.
So I was.
Now you can do really sillythings, so silly that you become
viral or something.
But I never did that becausemost of the people who do that
are just crazy drunk sometimesand since I don't drink, that
(17:29):
doesn't seem to be an issue forme.
But it's not just drinking, butpeople can get a little too
crazy and then they go viral orwhatever.
But I've never had thatexperience.
But I do believe and know Ireally just do really know that
if you're able to just beyourself when you go around with
(17:50):
your wife, or even if you couldreally just be yourself at home
, that would be good too.
But if you don't feel like youcan get on the road in a plane,
so you can get closer to yourspouse, because then you can be
yourself, and then it will neverenter into your spouse's mind.
She'll remember why, or he willremember why, she married you
(18:16):
or he married you, and thendivorce won't be there anymore
and it'll be way, way, way moreworth it the money you spent on
there.
And then you'll realize onceagain that travel is cheaper
than divorce you have beenlistening to Travel is Cheaper
(18:38):
Than Divorce.
With David Packer, please letus know what you think about
this episode or any othercomments you might have, by
visiting our website atwwwtravelpointdadcom.
Please join us for our nextepisode, where we continue to
explore how travel can helpbring your family together.
You are listening to.
Travel is Cheaper than Divorce.
This podcast for all those whomay be struggling with their
spouse or their children and therelationship with them.
We help give you tips andtricks by using travel as the
means to be able to help yourrelationships with your family.
I'll provide those tricks andother ways to help travel with
(00:29):
little or no cost.
So let's get into it.
Have you ever said something sodumb like in a group of friends?
Dumb like in a group of friends, um, that lives on for infamy?
(00:50):
Like just forever that you'reknown for something just because
you said it once, um, and then,of course, you have to face
those people again the next day.
Yeah, it's just just not one ofthe funnest things to do in
your life.
This is one of the things thathelped me Again.
(01:13):
Traveling has done a lot for me,but one of the things that it's
done has helped me get out ofmy shell and talk to people more
, because when you start totravel around, you start seeing
these other places and meetingpeople from sometimes all over
the world, depending on whereyou go, obviously, you start
(01:34):
meeting a bunch of people andthen you start talking to them.
Let me ask you this If you saysomething really dumb and stupid
around somebody who's from adifferent country that you know
you'll never see again, does itreally matter that much?
Not really right, I'll neversee you again.
You might feel dumb at the time, which is unfortunate, but
(01:59):
overall you don't feel that dumb.
You don't feel really that,that dumb as if you were saying
something in front of yourfamily or friends that you're
going to, uh, see again.
I mean, I got, let me.
Let me tell you there was onenight that, um, because I've
(02:24):
never been the most emotionalguy, I'm getting better there my
family thought it would befunny, and to them it was.
And then they end up showing avideo to my extended family, my
siblings and my parents of me.
What they did is they airplayedor mirrored their phone to the
(02:54):
projector we have in our houseand they played a little game
with me.
They put an emoji on the screenand they said what does this
emoji mean, the screen?
And they said what does thisemoji mean?
And let's just say I'm verygrateful that this video because
(03:18):
it was a video was made to showto my extended family has not
gone out into the interwebs,because it is somewhat
embarrassing because to me, allthe emojis can fall into like
three categories, maybe four.
So they put one on the screen,I say happy, and then the next
one, like that, looks like happytoo, just a different tint of
happiness.
And this is the thing goingback and forth, and I and I and
(03:42):
I challenged them because afterthey went through this and it
was all good fun, but they weremaking fun of me most of the
time because I don't understandall that.
Then I said, oh yeah, let's seeif you can do it.
So we went through the entirething again and of course they
could all do it, which was veryfunny, eye-opening for me.
(04:03):
It was really somewhatembarrassing, really, that they
could do all those things and Icouldn't.
But that's also another another.
You know another way of saying.
You know that sometimes you'renot as good as others at certain
things, and that's okay, that'sokay.
But, um, but let's just sayyou're playing that same emoji
(04:26):
game with somebody who you justmet in Hawaii.
I don't know why you do that,but let's just say you are,
you're playing that same emojigame with them, and they knew
all the answers and you did, andso basically, the same
situation.
Are you as embarrassed?
Are you as embarrassed, ormaybe, with a neighbor?
Maybe you're doing it with aneighbor.
Are you as embarrassed with theneighbor as you would be with
(04:49):
somebody you'll never see again?
Interesting to talk to otherpeople and then and other and
other things like that, and thenyou just logically have to tell
(05:10):
yourself that you'll never seethese people again.
So it doesn't really matterwhat you necessarily say.
Um, obviously you don't want tobe offensive.
I mean, that's just just a goodrule anyways, in general, not
to be necessarily offend onpurpose.
They still won't remember you,but I still don't think that's
the right way to live as a humanbeing, which is maybe a
separate thing.
(05:31):
One of the reasons I love totravel is that I can be myself,
especially when I'm travelingwith my spouse.
Now, before I didn't feel likeI could be myself around my
spouse and that was more as anin retrospect, more my fault
because I didn't show my heart.
But when I'm with my spouse andwe're traveling, I really feel
(05:53):
like I can be more myself whenI'm out, because it doesn't
matter what other people thinkof me, because I'm never going
to see any of them again in myentire life.
Likely.
You don't have to put a personaon when you're out and about
traveling.
You can just be yourself.
You know, melanie and I havebeen to places that my extended
(06:18):
family would be horrified ifthey knew that we went to those
places.
But they didn't know we werethere and so it didn't matter.
It didn't matter the otherpeople who were there, it didn't
matter to them.
Never saw them again in my life.
So yet another benefit of goingout and getting out of your own
(06:41):
environment is you don't have toworry about the people in your
environment and you don't haveto be a person for the people in
the environment.
We spend so much of our timetrying to fit into a mold, a
mold that other people want usto be.
How freeing is it to beyourself somewhere else and you
(07:01):
don't have to be in that mold?
Well, you don't really have tobe your mold at home either, and
I'm gonna talk about an exampleof that in just a second.
But when you're out and you'rearound people you don't know,
you can relax.
Why are vacations relaxing?
Well, you're not working.
I get that.
That's one thing.
You're away from your kids,hopefully, or sometimes with
your kids, but even with yourkids more relaxing and that is
(07:30):
because that is because you'reable to be yourself.
It's more relaxing.
You can lay down and beyourself.
For the longest time I've workedin white collar America.
White collar job is my prettymuch my entire adult life and
when I when I worked in thosethose fields, I put on a persona
(07:51):
.
I'm starting to realize this asI shifted away somewhat from
white collar work into what I donow, which is to teach people
how to travel for little or nocost.
I'm not necessarily in anoffice and I'm not actually
meeting with clients and all thestuff that I used to do.
(08:12):
So I don't have to put on apersona, I don't have to put on
a mask to pretend I'mprofessional.
But the thing is I stoppeddoing that about, I would say,
about 10 years ago.
I left one of the firms I wasworking at to start my own firm
and I had this firm for about 10years yeah, about 10 years but
(08:34):
when I left that other firm andI decided to start my own firm.
So in the job and the career Iwas in, it's like you need to
wear suit jackets and dressshirts and have marble floors in
the office and other thingslike that, and I tried to do
that persona.
I tried to do that persona forthe longest time.
(08:56):
I don't really mind wearing asuit, necessarily, but then it
just got to the point where, sookay, so I hired an assistant
and this assistant that I workedwith for about nine years of
the 10.
She, I told her she needed towear basically a suit, just like
(09:17):
I did.
And then she started slowly andslowly not wearing a suit and
realizing that people don'treally care.
I mean, they want you to beshowered, you know, dressed and
maybe just a little bit moreprofessional than just walking
off the street like you justwalked off the beach.
So we switched up and westarted wearing more nice polo
(09:40):
shirts and I did that throughnine of my 10 years running my
own firm.
Before I left the other firm andstarted my own, I said to one
of my coworkers I said I don'tcare, if people don't like me,
(10:02):
then they won't work with me,but I'm not changing who I am,
just so I can get the sale orjust so I can get the account.
So I stopped doing that fromthe very beginning and I ran a
fairly successful firm for awhile because I decided to be
myself and I was in everymeeting, so much so that there
(10:24):
have been several times therewas several times that my
assistant would say you know,you probably shouldn't have said
that and in retrospect Ishouldn't say something.
I used to say, like there wasone point where, like you know,
you can choose which way youwant to do.
You can work with us or not, Idon't really care, I just want
you to be comfortable.
And she's like you probablyshouldn't tell a prospective
(10:46):
client that you don't care ifthey work with you.
And I get that.
I was just trying to, you know,just be loose a little bit and
anyways.
So there are.
There are exceptions.
You also want to watch yourlanguage a little bit.
But I feel more free teachingpeople how to do this traveling
stuff than I ever did running myown financial planning firm.
(11:09):
I feel freer that I can just bebecause I do.
I was talking about travel andlearning about travel.
It relaxes me and and I can bemyself when I travel.
I feel like I can be myselfwhen I talk to my current
clients who are clients of mine.
In this new venture that I have, I feel freer than I have in a
(11:34):
long time In fact, my wife willtell you.
Since I decided, since I dideventually leave my firm or
leave running it myself, then Ihave been a lot more relaxed
(11:57):
because I don't have to hold upa certain persona.
In fact, let me tell youanother story.
It got so bad at one point aboutpersonas.
You know there are people whosay you got to separate your
work life from your personallife because you can't let your
work life flow into yourpersonal and you can't let your
personal flow into your worklife.
It's so funny, the wisdom thatpeople think is wisdom.
(12:21):
I don't.
I don't think that was reallygood wisdom.
I think you need to be yourself, no matter where you're at.
That's what I think.
I think it's healthier.
And so if you can't be yourselfin your current career and I'm
not telling you to leave, youknow you can make that decision
(12:42):
on your own.
But I could just tell you frommy experience now that I'm in a
new career field, that I that Ihad new career field in a way
that I've ever been, because mywhole life I've been in banks
and financial planning firms andit's it is different because
I'm not in banks or financialplanning firms for the first
time in my life, but I am lovingthe opportunity to help people
(13:04):
and just enjoying talking abouttravel and how to get them and
travel and for free and otherthings that I'm doing right now.
I just absolutely love doingright now.
I just absolutely love it rightnow, love it.
But I can tell you that thepersona I don't have so when it
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came.
So now my personal, my worklife, they definitely flow
together because I'm happier inwhat I do, I can be happier at
home.
So if you think you're reallyseparating work and personal, if
you come home because your worklife was terrible and you're
like I got to separate this, I'mjust going to be happy.
It flows, guys, it flows.
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I remember again when I wasrunning my own financial
planning firm by myself well,myself and an assistant.
I ran it that way for a longtime.
I remember that every time Iwent to work, so my wife and I
and this is before I startedopening up emotionally and other
things but we would, I would,we would be okay together and
everything would be fine.
I go to work.
I worked from home a lot and Iwent to my home office and then
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I worked, worked, worked, workedand put my whole heart and soul
Hmm, let's back that up I putmy whole head and logic into
into what I was doing, writingfinancial plans and such and
doing investments.
Then then I'd walk out of myhome office and I come back to
her a whole different person,because I fell so far into the
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logic spectrum and I was so muchinto this persona.
That persona came home with me.
I was already at home, I guesstechnically sometimes, but it
came out of the office with meand that type of person, she
didn't fall in love with thattype of person.
She fell in love with adifferent person.
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She fell in love with adifferent person.
And so if your work life, ifyou're keeping up a persona,
then traveling allows you toloosen that persona and be
yourself.
And it doesn't matter whatpeople think of you, because
you're never going to see themagain.
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A lot of them, for me is noneof them so far.
Maybe I'll meet somebodysomeday on my travels that I end
up calling and we end upconnecting or something, but for
now I've never really kind ofconnected with anybody on
traveling, enough that I've beenmore focused on my family, my
spouse, but anyway, you're nevergoing to see them again.
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So that's another reason whyyou can connect so much better
with your spouse if you'retraveling, because if you're
travel, you're yourself again.
You're not have to be thispersona that sometimes leaks
into your personal life, so muchso that your wife's, like I,
don't even recognize who you areanymore, because the pursuit of
money is so important, your jobis so important that you had to
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keep up a persona, and thenthat comes home with you and
maybe you're not ready to quityour job.
All right, well, I'm not goingto tell you what to do, but I
will tell you that when you'reon vacation, when you travel,
then you're able to loosen thatpersona up and become that
person again that your wife fellin love with.
It brings you closer together.
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Just another reason whytraveling is so important.
And as far as I'm concerned,when it comes to your family and
your relationship with yourspouse, because even when I was
running the financial planningfirm, I was certainly a
different person.
When I was on vacay, when I wastraveling with my spouse, I was
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.
I just I didn't have to worryas much.
You know, I didn't worry how tobe this professional person.
Nobody on that island.
If I was on Hawaii because I dolove Hawaii, so I always talk
about island, but professionalperson, nobody on that island.
If I was on hawaii because I dolove hawaii, so I always talk
about island.
But if I was on that island andI, I can be just me, I didn't
have to be david packer,financial advisor.
I can just be david packer, andnobody on the island knows I'm
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a financial advisor.
Nobody on the island.
I'm not going to start sellingto people because I really just
want to be me.
So I was.
Now you can do really sillythings, so silly that you become
viral or something.
But I never did that becausemost of the people who do that
are just crazy drunk sometimesand since I don't drink, that
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doesn't seem to be an issue forme.
But it's not just drinking, butpeople can get a little too
crazy and then they go viral orwhatever.
But I've never had thatexperience.
But I do believe and know Ireally just do really know that
if you're able to just beyourself when you go around with
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your wife, or even if you couldreally just be yourself at home
, that would be good too.
But if you don't feel like youcan get on the road in a plane,
so you can get closer to yourspouse, because then you can be
yourself, and then it will neverenter into your spouse's mind.
She'll remember why, or he willremember why, she married you
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or he married you, and thendivorce won't be there anymore
and it'll be way, way, way moreworth it the money you spent on
there.
And then you'll realize onceagain that travel is cheaper
than divorce you have beenlistening to Travel is Cheaper
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Than Divorce.
With David Packer, please letus know what you think about
this episode or any othercomments you might have, by
visiting our website atwwwtravelpointdadcom.
Please join us for our nextepisode, where we continue to
explore how travel can helpbring your family together.
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