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Travel is Cheaper than Divorce.
This podcast for all those whomay be struggling with their
spouse or their children and therelationship with them.
We help give you tips andtricks by using travel as the
means to be able to help yourrelationships with your family.
I will provide those tricks andother ways to help travel with
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little or no cost.
So let's get into it.
Did you ever go to yourgrandma's house and then you
tried to just play around in herhouse and she would get so
concerned about her stuff, soconcerned about her stuff.
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It's funny.
I never had this experienceuntil I got married, because my
grandparents weren't necessarilylike that.
My wife's grandparents were,but at this point we were adults
, but we had kids right, so theyhad this is my wife's
grandparents, so they're great,they're great, great.
No, not great, great, but greatgrandchildren, which are my
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children.
They wouldn't even let them goin a certain part of the house
because they're so worried abouttheir stuff.
That is so unfortunate.
By the way, it made my kidsfeel like they couldn't be
comfortable in that house, whichis unfortunate for them because
we didn't really visit themthat often anymore.
If they're going to make ourkids feel that way all because
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of stuff.
And it's not a room.
It wasn't a room that was likea bedroom or anything.
By the way, I want to make thatclear it's like their living
living room, so it's like thiswhole other open air room anyway
.
I think that, um, I think weworry about that too much.
Right, we can't have nice stuff.
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Right, we can't have nice stuffbecause we have kids.
We can't have nice cars.
We can't have nice luxurytravel.
We can't have nice stuffbecause we have kids.
We can't have nice cars.
We can't have nice luxurytravel.
We can't have any of thesethings Because we have kids or
because of whatever.
Right, or because of money.
When I teach people that theycan travel in luxury,
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particularly for little or nocost, it almost blows their mind
.
Because that concept of I can'thave nice things or luxury
travel unless I'm a uh, you know, I I make half a million
dollars a year.
When I blow their mind, I knowit blew my mind.
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I remember the very first timethat I stood on or sat in I
should say first class on anairplane, and not only this.
This was first class to Hawaii.
So not only are we on anairplane, flying first class,
but we're flying to one of themost beautiful destinations, in
my opinion, in the US I've beento so far.
For those in very beautifuldestinations like they're better
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in Hawaii.
Maybe I haven't been everywhereyet, but right now, as far as
I've been, hawaii is one of themost beautiful places I've been,
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and so I remember stepping onthe airplane and boarding the
airplane, of course, beforeeverybody else, and being
offered pre-flight drinks andall sorts of things like that.
I remember sitting there inthese first class seats and they
were very nice.
Because I've been since then,I've been on a couple first
class and, uh, I think that wasstill probably one of the nicest
I've ever been on with my firstone.
It's nice, um, you know, sincethen I've learned more about how
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to look up.
There are websites out there andthere's some things I can teach
and I do teach.
There are websites out there.
It will tell you what the seatsare like on the airplane.
Particularly, they have everysingle airplane and airline
mapped out so you can seeexactly how far they go down,
how far between, what thelegroom is and so forth.
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Really good, because I do someresearch on that before I book
nowadays, but anyway.
So I I remember.
I remember sitting on theseseats and being on this plane
and and and it was.
It was super amazing.
But what I was thinking I wasthinking at the time and see,
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it's a whole shift in mentality.
See, when you travel in luxury,it shifts your entire mentality
and makes you feel better, likeyou are wealthy in a way.
You know there is a book thatwas written years ago called
Think and Grow Rich, and thiscertainly helps you think rich,
because you're sitting in firstclass flying to Hawaii in some
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pretty nice seats, being fed.
This particular first classover to Hawaii was some of the
best food I've ever had to, onan airplane or not.
Honestly, it was really goodfood, which is surprising for an
airplane again, becauseairlines aren't exactly known
for their food.
They're getting better becausepeople are demanding it, which
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you know, which is nice.
But I remember sitting therethinking, not thinking, but just
feeling like I'm pretty wealthyand I wasn't, by the way, at
the time.
In fact, at that time I think Iwas making less as a household.
My wife she's been more of astay at home mom for a long time
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I think at that time we'reactually making less than six
figures.
And yeah, I was flying firstclass to Hawaii and I paid fully
in points and I paid so low inpoints.
And this is one of thestrategies, again that I use for
people is that I um, I was ableto book those first class
tickets for the same price ascoach tickets.
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As coach tickets and I mean inpoints at this point, because I
didn't actually pay cash forthem it's kind of amazing thing
really.
And then you're sitting thereand you don't have to think
about how you pay for it.
That's pretty irrelevant, butyou just need to think, you just
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need to feel into that.
This is the life that I canhave and you.
And it really does changethings.
Yeah, another reason to travel.
Right, it changes things, itchanges your mentality if you're
sitting in a first class seat.
And then, when my wife and Iagain, when my wife and I
traveled to Costa Rica one year,we were in the what is, in my
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opinion, the nicest seats we'veever been in, and they were what
they're called lay flat seats.
We literally laid flat, flat,like a bed on an airplane.
It hardly felt like we were onan airplane.
It was wonderful and it madeyou feel like, yes, I can have
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nice things.
But that feeling doesn't endwhen you get off the airplane.
You're like I can have thesenice things.
It goes on to your life, itmakes you feel more confident,
and all of this again for littleto no cost.
Again, it's a mentality shift,a complete mentality shift.
I mean this podcast is about howit can save your family and
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save your marriage.
What a better way to save yourmarriage and your family?
By making more money, makingmore confident decisions in your
career.
Because you feel more confident, because you just felt you just
flew to and from Hawaii infirst class, or to and from
Costa Rica in business class,which is like first class
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international, which is usuallynicer, by the way, than domestic
first class, just as an FYI onthe side, little tidbits here or
there in this, in this podcast.
That's why traveling, that'swhy when I, when I teach people
to travel for little or no cost,it's not little or no cost, the
end period, it's little or nocost in luxury.
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In luxury, because it changesyou, it changes people.
Another another, another storythat I have is when I was flying
back from hawaii one time.
This time we took the kids withus and um, and people disagree
on this point.
This is how I feel about it andmy kids were old enough.
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That's why I probably feeldifferent than some.
But my kids at that time ohgosh, I got to remember probably
16, 15, 13, and say eight maybeat the time.
So they're old enough, exceptfor maybe the eight year old,
but they're with their siblings.
My wife and I flew in firstclass and we had them back in
what is considered like acomfort plus type type thing.
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They would have been back infar coach, except we did want,
we didn't want to keep themclose.
And some people will say, well,that's terrible, you did your
kids.
Why are you flying first class?
Because, frankly, I feel like Iearned that privilege.
I did earn that privilege andmy kids?
They can also do the same thingIn their life.
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They can earn their way up,essentially, to that spot, but
for them, I wasn't going to havethem have the business class
because I didn't honestly wantto spend the points.
Because one of the thingsyou'll hear me say, if you ever
become a client of mine in thisother points business that I
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have, is that points arecurrency.
They really are currency, theyhave value, and so sometimes
it's better for you to pay cashthan points, and that's a
different story.
It all depends on the value ofthe points that you're dealing
with at the time.
But, yes, you can have nicethings.
You can have nice things forlittle to no cost and it makes
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you feel like you can have nicethings at home, you know,
without going into debt, ofcourse, but it makes you feel
more confident.
You step off that plane Peoplesee one of the things I'll tell
you that you walk past thesepeople in first class when
you're walking your way to coach, or maybe comfort plus, which
is basically just coach plus.
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You call maybe comfort plus,which is basically just coach
plus.
You call it comfort plus, it'sjust coach plus, right?
Um, you walk past these peoplein first class like, wow, they
must have a lot of money.
I almost guarantee you half ofthose people book those seats
with points.
So basically, half those peopledidn't spend cash on those
first class seats.
Almost guaranteed, when I sitin first class, you'll never.
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I have never, never, literally,the entire time I've been
traveling, I've traveled a lot.
You can imagine I have neverpaid cash for a first class seat
Ever, ever, or much tooexpensive.
I'd rather play points ever.
Or much too expensive.
I'd rather play points, becauseI generally generally not
always, but generally pay thesame price as a coach ticket in
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points for first class seat.
So when you walk by, thosepeople are like, well, those
guys must have money, do they,though, do they?
And, frankly, some of thosepeople are upgraded for free
because they have status withthe airline.
So some of them have actuallyliterally bought a coach ticket
and they are put in first class.
Have you ever seen a firstclass seat on an airline empty?
No, they don't leave firstclass seats empty, and the
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reason they don't is becausethey want to treat certain
people who have status with theairline most of the time Well by
upgrading them from coach tofirst class.
They want their first classseats filled because then people
get the taste of first class.
Maybe they'll buy a first classticket.
Never buy I shouldn't say neveralmost never buy a first class
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ticket with cash.
I say almost because there'salways an exception to a rule,
but there's the word exceptionin there.
It's an exception to the rule.
Your spouse will look at youdifferently too, by the way.
You're booking first classtickets for you and, yeah, I
paid hardly any.
I paid.
I paid zero cash money, but Ipaid the equivalent of a coach
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ticket in points for these seats.
Hmm, and they feel different.
They feel different, they lookat you different.
So the tagline of this podcast,you know it's definitely cheaper
, because what if you spend nomoney on travel?
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Divorce is very expensive.
From what I understand Neverbeen divorced personally, but I
saw my mom and dad go through itit's much more expensive than
paying nothing for a first classticket or getting upgraded,
like again, I'm recording in astudio that's not in my city
right now.
So I had to travel here and Ipaid for a standard hotel room
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and I got upgraded to a suitewhen I got here.
How does that make you feel?
Same thing just got upgraded.
I didn't pay for a suite.
I have one.
I paid for a normal, normalhotel room.
How does that make you feel?
So?
My point is is this you can havenice things, you just don't
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know how to do it.
And you can have nice thingsspending the same amount of
money you're spending now, notchanging anything in your life,
not changing really anything inyour life except for just
tweaking little things here orthere.
And then when you get to thatpoint, when you're on the first
class tickets and in the suitesin the hotel, then how does it
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make you feel?
It makes you feel like amillion bucks and then you're
going to I don't know, I'm notgoing to say you're going to
make a million bucks, Maybe youwill, but you certainly feel
better and have more confidenceand more of a step.
That people and people who walkpast you and going to coach and
and they're like, wow, thoseguys have money and that's not
really true, as I just mentioned, but but that's how they feel
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and they get that towards you.
It's just more of that feelingyou carry with you, more
confidence in your step, andthen you look different to your
spouse because you have moreconfidence in your step.
I mean, I mean it reallychanges quite a bit.
It's actually.
It's actually it changes somuch in your life.
So I mean not just the firstclass thing, not just the
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upgrade hotel thing, but alsojust traveling in general
changes your life, when you'reable to see beautiful things you
couldn't see around you.
Now.
I live in a pretty, prettybeautiful place, in my opinion.
No, I don't live on the coast,I actually live in the interior
of the country, but it's a verybeautiful place, very beautiful
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place Red rocks, and it's justgorgeous.
It's a very gorgeous place.
My wife and I like to hike andso we hike a lot there.
It's just beautiful.
It's just a beautiful place welive and yet we want to travel
all the time to other beautifulplaces and experience other
beautiful things.
It is really truly a differentexperience.
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It's a different way oftraveling, and that's really
what I teach is all about iseverything is a different way of
doing things.
It's a different feeling, it'sa different way to travel.
I mean, if you take your spouseon these adventures in the
manner I've just spoken of, thenyou'll definitely say to
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yourself, you'll definitely sayto yourself, that this traveling
is definitely cheaper thandivorce.
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with David Packer.
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