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There are some topics today that really have me pissed off,
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open season to kill us what In response to Trump
sending the National Guard and the Marines to police the
ICE protest in La A, Florida sheriff held a press
conference where he said if people in his community are
protesting ICE and they attack a police officer in any way,
they will be killed. He said law enforcement would quote

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kill you a gradeyard dead. And when we play the
clip of this man talking, your job, if you haven't
already seen this, your job be on the floor because
it is so disgusting and so provocative about if protesters
become violent what they will do, which is a deeply
American ride. Can we see that clip?

Speaker 10 (04:12):
If you resist lawful orders, you're going to jail. Let
me be very clear about that. If you block an
intersection or a roadway in Brevard County, you are going
to jail. If you flee arrest, you're going to go
to jail tired, because we are going to run you
down and put you in jail. If you try to
mob rule a car in Brevard County, gathering around it,

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refusing to let the driver leave in our county, you're
most likely going to get run over and dragged across
the street. If you spin on us, you're going to
the hospital.

Speaker 3 (04:45):
And in jail.

Speaker 10 (04:47):
If you hit one of us, you're going to the
hospital and jail and most likely get bitten by one
of our big, beautiful dogs that we have here. If
throw a brick, a fire bomb, or point a gun
at one of our deputies, we will be notifying your
family where to collect your remains at because we will
kill you. Graveyard debt. We're not gonna play. This has

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got to stop.

Speaker 1 (05:10):
Wow, it strikes me as kind of gross to b Tree.
Does this embolden and empower law enforcement and give them
a sort of legal avenue or an encouraged avenue to
attack black and brown people because you know, of course
the black and brown people at any protest he's talking
about are more vulnerable than the white bodies you know.

Speaker 3 (05:31):
To me, this has nothing to do with law enforcement.

Speaker 5 (05:35):
This is seriously just a group of people interested more
interested in fucking lynching Black America.

Speaker 3 (05:44):
This is exactly what we've always.

Speaker 5 (05:46):
Seen from the It seems like a clue clutter clam
member dressed in a uniform, he on TV smiling, smiling
at black people to provoke them, just to get put
in a fucking dirt like make it make sense. You
can hear in his voice. He don't even see protesters.
He see a problem that needs to be erased, see
what America's always fucking saw in black America. And the

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sickest part about it is he's sitting there and he smiling,
and he knows he's protected by the exact same system
he works for, because when you got a badge in America,
black pain is just.

Speaker 1 (06:21):
Part of your job for some of reason. Doctor Bryant,
what do you think about the way that he's seeming
to tell the officers it's okay to be violent to
protesters and telling protesters you should be prepared and accept
this violence we're going to visit on you.

Speaker 6 (06:37):
Yeah, so my opinion may be unpopular, and y'all know,
I don't really give a fuck. I didn't hear that, Torre.
What I heard him say was that there is a
First Amendment that allows you to a peaceful a symbol
of a protest, does not allow you to break the law.
What I heard him say was, we as officers in
law enforcement, are here to enforce the law. So if

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you break the law, which is breaking your First Amendment,
then the law will be enforced against you. What I
heard him say was, if you spit, if you hit,
if you poured a gun, if you blow up a car,
if you set something on fire, those are all laws
that you're breaking. He clearly said you have a right
to a peaceful protest. He said, I don't mind you protests.

(07:23):
All you want peacefully, That is your first amendment. Your
first amendment does not include you attacking, disrespecting, or breaking
the law on anybody, including the officer. My brother has
been in law enforcement for fourteen years and he's out
here on the LA streets. If he's out here and
somebody points a gun at him, spits on him, or

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breaks the law against him, my brother has every fucking
right to enforce the law. These officers that are out
here are not here to be disrespected, They're not here
to be threatened.

Speaker 8 (07:52):
They're here to do a damn job.

Speaker 6 (07:54):
Protesters are supposed to respect their first amendment, which is
the right that they have, which is to have a
peaceful as symbol, and law enforcement is there to do
what enforce the law. I am not condoning police brutality,
But I'm also not condoning officers who are out here
doing their job rightfully, not the ones who are racist,
Not the ones who have a horrible intention, but the
ones who are doing their job rightfully to be disrespected

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in a way that is breaking the law against them.

Speaker 3 (08:20):
I hear.

Speaker 1 (08:20):
That's a really important point that we should not as
and it's acab all day, but we should not be
purposely provocative toward police officers. Obviously, we should not be
pointing guns at police officers. We should not be violent
toward police officers. That is obviously against the law and
inappropriate in most situations. But what I have found in

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the real world, I've been to many processes, I'm sure
you have that quite often it is the police who
are provocative in those situations that the police are quite
often the first ones to strike at a black or
brown body. So, now in a situation where the police
are being provocative and they are the gang with the
jail keys and the gun and the badge, and they're

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telling you, if you return the violence, if you return
to audit, then we will be violent, and we will
be the police should should be acting in a posture
lawn of protecting the community and not promising the community
we will be violent towards you.

Speaker 8 (09:19):
Yes, exactly.

Speaker 9 (09:20):
And while he thinks he's setting the tone what I
read between the lines was setting the wrong tone. Right
as I heard him view these words, I'm thinking to myself,
this is some type of plantation pontification.

Speaker 1 (09:35):
Gone on here.

Speaker 9 (09:36):
Okay, this is not how we set the stage the
underlying energy under.

Speaker 8 (09:42):
His words, which is what was problematic to me. No,
we do not need to be purposely.

Speaker 9 (09:50):
Provocative towards the police, but the same has to be
returned to the public.

Speaker 8 (09:56):
And what we.

Speaker 9 (09:57):
See too often, and I'm a former criminal defense attorney,
what we see too often is if the police are
aggressive wants then the crowd either puts their hands up
or tries to do something.

Speaker 8 (10:07):
Then all of a sudden they.

Speaker 9 (10:08):
Can claim I felt threatened, and the next thing you know,
it escalates. We have got to do a better job,
as doctor San said, protecting our First Amendment rights. However,
it requires our police and our shriff to be a
part of that protection and not the provocation.

Speaker 1 (10:29):
Let's listen to his video again, because I do want
to listen to it. I think doctor Bryant brings up
a great point in terms of he does clearly want
to protect his officers, but I think also there is
an aggressive tone where he seems to be like a
gang member, like we will kill you. But I do

(10:51):
respect what you're saying, Doctor Bryant, as far as his
officers should not feel or be not feel be threatened
when they are on the job, but quite often they
are threatening. But let's listen to the share of one
war time.

Speaker 10 (11:05):
If you resist lawful orders, you're going to jail. Let
me be very clear about that. If you block an
intersection or a roadway in Brevard County, you are going
to jail. If you flee r rest, you're going to
go to jail tired, because we are going to run
you down and put you in jail. If you try
to mob rule a car in Brevard County, gathering around

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it refusing to let the driver leave in our county,
you're most likely going to get run over and dragged.

Speaker 3 (11:33):
Across the street.

Speaker 10 (11:35):
If you spin on us, you're going to the hospital
and in jail. If you hit one of us, you're
going to the hospital and jail and most likely get
bitten by one of our big, beautiful dogs that we
have here. If throw a brick, a fire bomb, or
point a gun at one of our deputies, we will
be notifying your family where to collect your remains at

(11:57):
because we will kill you graveyard dead.

Speaker 1 (12:00):
We're not gonna play judge league, he said, blocking an intersection?
Is that a crime?

Speaker 7 (12:06):
Because that's this is the part.

Speaker 9 (12:10):
If you're trying to peacefully block an intersection, we're gonna
run you down.

Speaker 1 (12:16):
Now that thought.

Speaker 8 (12:18):
Okay, come on, that's.

Speaker 9 (12:20):
Where the what you're reading between the lines, and this
is where it gets super problematic. It's setting up a
hair trigger response energy for officers, right, for even the
officers to not go into the situation with a level head,
with discernment, with trying to evaluate each situation.

Speaker 8 (12:41):
No, it's already setting officers up like, look, anything you
don't like, anything that starts jumping off.

Speaker 9 (12:46):
We don't like boom, We're taking it from zero to ten.
That is not how it.

Speaker 1 (12:51):
Should be done.

Speaker 5 (12:53):
Absolutely, it's the hair trigger responses like you claim. It
sounds like the opening words of a Clueklux clan meeting
that says, oh, we can't get them legally, so we're
gonna make it legal. And that's exactly what the fuck
going on. And y'all got people gotta listen to how
he's describing these things. My big beautiful dogs, Yeah, they
gonna bite you on you. You're proud of this, You're

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proud that you can now have access to legally bash
on the people you hate so much and get away
with it. It's disgusting to me. This isn't protect and serve.
This is terrorized and target that's all it is. And
just because you are set to protect, you create the
rules that say I felt threatened, which is also the

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problem because all you've got to say is I felt threatened.
Now you go up everybody ass out here. We're talking
about death like he talk killing people. This is insane, insane.

Speaker 6 (13:46):
This is my thing right as a when we're doing protests,
right and as NAAC president, I have organized protests with
law enforcement.

Speaker 8 (13:54):
The point of protest.

Speaker 6 (13:55):
That's why it's a first amendment, and that's why it's
called peaceful. It's because you're out there to say message.
You're out there fighting for rights. You're out there so
that you can change laws and influence lawmakers. You're not
out there to break laws. You're not out there to
ruin your city that you're protesting in. You're not out
there to mash the windows of businesses.

Speaker 8 (14:14):
You're not out there.

Speaker 6 (14:15):
To ruin a city that you are protesting to be
able to have a right to be in You are
protesting to be able to have laws that are changing
that will work for your rights.

Speaker 7 (14:24):
So when you're doing that, you also have to lead.

Speaker 6 (14:26):
By example by not breaking laws that you already know
are going to be enforced when we protest. When you're
talking about blocking off streets, we had streets blocked off
by law enforcement by the city council member. So that's
called to organized protests. We didn't go out there and
make sure that while we are trying to fight for
the rights of ourselves and our citizens and our neighbors,
that we were blocking off people from getting to their kids,

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blocking off people from getting to their jobs, blocking off
freeway so that people can't get home from work, single parents,
single fathers, single mothers who actually have some place to go,
actually have kids. There has to be ad outity of
understanding that, yes, protests, you're freaking butt off. I am
for I've been out there as NAAP president protesting, organizing it.
But there's also a way to do it where your

(15:10):
message is loud and clear and you're not deminding the
message by breaking laws. So now everyone's focus goes on
there's laws being broken. There's officers who are coming on
doing interviews and doing press conferences about laws are trying
to enforce.

Speaker 7 (15:27):
Let's keep the main thing the main thing.

Speaker 6 (15:29):
So when we're on media, when we're on TV, they
can say, look, we got these group of people protesting
about this message.

Speaker 7 (15:34):
We got these group of people protesting about that.

Speaker 6 (15:36):
Message, and let's push push the policies we're trying to change.
We are allowing them, and I wrap on this, we
are allowing them to take our message, our amendment, what
we're protesting for, our loud voice, and make it about them,
and make it about law enforcement, and make it that
there's laws being broken.

Speaker 8 (15:52):
So we have to enforce it this way.

Speaker 6 (15:53):
And we all have seen protests that do get out
of hand where it turns from a protest to where
now you have blocks and blocks of businesses who are bashed, vandalized.
These businesses have to tap into insurance, policies have to
tap into their own pockets. And now we have a
city that's not just protests, but it's ruined.

Speaker 8 (16:11):
That's where I have a problem with it.

Speaker 9 (16:13):
I just have to say this, doctor Shyanne, you are
not wrong, but two things can be true, right, every
single thing you said can be true. Even protesters blocking
streets without permis generally illegal. You can't, just like you said,
block it so people can't get home, people can't get
to work. But the response to blocking a street cannot

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be automatically.

Speaker 8 (16:38):
That is a death sentence.

Speaker 9 (16:40):
That because you're blocking a street, right, which although illegal,
that now we have license to kill you, to run
you down.

Speaker 8 (16:49):
I think we have to be careful about the language
we use in words is so powerful.

Speaker 9 (16:55):
They're so powerful. And the words he use here I
don't think were you. They weren't words of responsible leadership.
They were words to incite an energy and a level
that never ends up going well. And last point, when
people ask all the time, now why aren't black people
pouring out in the streets. You need our leadership. It's

(17:18):
sheriffs like this using these words. Our people know that lingo.

Speaker 8 (17:23):
We know that.

Speaker 9 (17:24):
Cadence right, And with that means that when we get
out there, we know we all dieing and going to jail,
play chest and not checkers here, because once we get
in these streets, the street's going to be operating a
whole lot differently. And we've heard that in what he
said that is what was written in between those lines.

Speaker 1 (17:46):
Yeah, I totally hear that. I have been at a lot
of protests where white people will form a line together
between the black protesters and the officers who are standing
in a menacing way, because even they understand that the
officers will be less likely to touch or attack their

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white bodies than ours, Right, I mean, like, how insane
is that that we need a wall of whiteness to
protect us from the officers who are there to protect
and serve us. And we are in a moment of protest,
which is so deeply American. For them to be destroying
that moment to be just really cuts out against the

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core of what America really is. And Dimitri, I know
this is probably a little bit harder for you because
you're probably dealing with the police on a day to
day level, a little bit more than the rest of us,
as a younger black.

Speaker 5 (18:42):
Man, absolutely being on the West Side of Chicago, growing up,
being born and raised that it's just amazing to me.

Speaker 3 (18:49):
It's amazing what you see.

Speaker 5 (18:51):
You have to And I want to encourage everybody who's
watching this to be very very careful because when we
protest and we riot, and we we want to do
anything peaceful, it becomes violent on their end.

Speaker 1 (19:03):
But when they do it, they're escorted.

Speaker 5 (19:06):
Their release from prison, they're all these other things.

Speaker 3 (19:10):
So just be very.

Speaker 5 (19:10):
Mindful of how you show up that just like said
doctor Brown's point, how you show up matters as well.

Speaker 1 (19:16):
It may save your life.

Speaker 6 (19:18):
Okay, I was just said, because Demeitia, you said a
word that that is powerful. There's a difference between protests
and riot. That is the fucking problem. When we get
people out there and this is not a race thing
you have. Let me say, you have white people that.

Speaker 7 (19:31):
Start riots and create riots and are vandalyzing.

Speaker 6 (19:35):
This is just not a black or brown thing. But
when you and folks allow a protest to turn into
a riot are looting. That is not the purpose of
a protest. That is what bleeds our message and it
allows law enforcement to make a mockery over our first
Amendment to protest. If we're protesting to push for lawmakers

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to do something different, for example immigration on right now, right.

Speaker 8 (20:01):
We cannot.

Speaker 6 (20:02):
We don't have the time, we don't have the space
to negate or detour to allow not lawmakers to take
media our most powerful way of communicating to people and
make it about Look at these people who are protesting,
they're they're they're looting, they're rioting. This is not a protest,
This is not peaceful. We don't have the space to
do that. We gotta make sure we keep the fucking

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main thing, the main thing. We are not okay with this.
We are our message is this. We are protesting about this.
We have signs, we have speakers, we are loud about it, and.

Speaker 8 (20:35):
We are getting our point across.

Speaker 6 (20:37):
We don't have time to be there to purposely inform
break laws.

Speaker 9 (20:41):
Now.

Speaker 7 (20:41):
I'm with y'all, I'm with Judge, and I'm with.

Speaker 8 (20:44):
Toret I get what you're saying.

Speaker 6 (20:45):
I'm not speaking to the officers who are intentionally saying. Look,
while I'm houty, I'm gonna provok I'm gonna i'm gonna
be racist, I'm gonna push the throttle. I'm gonna I'm
gonna rub it in their face. We understand we have
some that are like that, but we have to make
sure as people that we are pushing our message, that
we have our eye on the prize, that we are
doing things so that they can't and don't have a

(21:05):
reason to take away more of our rights.

Speaker 8 (21:07):
Than they've already taken away. That's my part. So looting
and writing is not a protest, it's not.

Speaker 1 (21:13):
I appreciate the point, and I think you're right that
looting and rioting is not usually part of a protest.
There is a value some situations for the community to
engage in property violence, but there's way too often that
we have thousands of peaceful protesters who are purposely provoked

(21:33):
by the police who understand exactly what you're saying, that
the violence seems to discredit protesters, so the police officers
are purposely provoking them into violence, so the media shows
clashes between police and protesters rather than talking about the
protesters actual message. The police are using violence to discredit

(21:54):
the protesters, right, and so we shouldn't have violence, but
we shouldn't have police creating the violence in these situations.
And quite often, I think the looters are almost never
the people who went out to protest. They are opportunitists
to understand, Oh, the police are busy over here, I'm
gonna go over there, right, I'm gonna take advantage of
the situation. It's never somebody who cares about immigration or

(22:17):
black lives matter, who's like I'm gonna take this opportunity
to go rob the Apple store while I'm here, And
there are absolutely paid professional agitators, quite often sent in
by law enforcement. We have identified this in Ferguson and
in other places where people who are not part of
the protests will be breaking windows or creating property violence,

(22:39):
property damage in order again to discredit the protesters. Why
weren't they talking like this on January sixth? That's part
of what you start to wonder that when it's white
people and all big and writing, that is understandable. But
when it's even just even the promise of black people,
and this isn't even like a protest, This is a

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protest against Trump in general.

Speaker 3 (23:04):
Okay, I'm sorry, I'm still glad. Go ahead.

Speaker 8 (23:09):
Oh no, I just had to say, where was this
entire argument on January sixth? We still we still to.

Speaker 9 (23:15):
This date in twenty twenty five, ain't heard nothing about
how all of the insurrectionists on January sixth should have.

Speaker 1 (23:23):
Been mowed down dead.

Speaker 9 (23:25):
You can't go looting, It clouds your message. You can't
be a right, you can't block the street, you can't
invade the capitol, you can't threaten to hang the vice
president like nobody putting down the law. And then where
was mister plantation pontification.

Speaker 1 (23:39):
On over there?

Speaker 8 (23:40):
Okay, where was he?

Speaker 3 (23:42):
Then?

Speaker 8 (23:42):
I didn't see him.

Speaker 5 (23:46):
I guarantee you if my black ass was out there,
I wouldn't be standing.

Speaker 1 (23:49):
I wouldn't be sitting right here right now.

Speaker 5 (23:51):
That's a fact, because it's less about what you do
and more about the color.

Speaker 8 (23:54):
You know what happened about you doing it?

Speaker 6 (23:58):
And you know what's what happened was Trump pardoned the
folks that were at the Capitol.

Speaker 8 (24:03):
He didn't just say y'all gonna get wrong. And this
is why I said on one of our.

Speaker 6 (24:06):
Episodes Torey and Demisia, I don't know if you'll remember,
I said, the real niggas was in niggas at the Capitol. See,
niggas ain't a race. Then was niggas?

Speaker 8 (24:13):
Then was gangsters?

Speaker 6 (24:14):
Those those were thugs that were at the Capitol. When
they want to talk about who niggas are, that's what
it was. But but hold on, But in Trump's uh,
in his perspective, he's partying all the niggas. I hope
y'all get what I just said about that, because he's still.

Speaker 8 (24:29):
Doing that in his mind.

Speaker 7 (24:30):
In his mind, he's still partoning all the niggas, He's.

Speaker 9 (24:34):
Partnering the people that like him. Like that is, it's
the alignment ring your violence, your intention aligned with my value.

Speaker 8 (24:48):
Then it's okay. That is subjective not objective, and police.

Speaker 9 (24:53):
And sheriff should be operating under an objective standard of
reasonable deadly force. Do I reasonably, as a police officer
feel like my life is in danger? It was reasonable
on January to sixth to feel like the Vice president
life was in danger, every Nancy Pelosi's life, people's lives
were in danger.

Speaker 8 (25:13):
It was reasonable, and yet nothing was said.

Speaker 9 (25:16):
I mean, at a certain point, I'm gonna call myself
down today because I'm wearing my little yellow jacket and
I'm getting hot.

Speaker 8 (25:21):
It's a sweating material.

Speaker 9 (25:22):
I'm gonna call myself down. But it's an insult on
our intelligence. Right. It's almost like you're seeing a blue
sky and somebody's telling you it's purple, and it's how
long you're gonna sit and argue about a blue sky
when you know it is blue, and they trying to tell.

Speaker 1 (25:37):
You it is purple.

Speaker 9 (25:37):
We already know what the deal is. That's why when
you get up there talking about what you're gonna do.
If anybody steps.

Speaker 8 (25:44):
Out of line, we already know who you want to
do it to.

Speaker 1 (25:49):
Yeah, see that part. Because black protests, especially in the
last decade, has been incredibly important and valuable for black people.
The George Floyd situation would have been sweat under the
rug but for people going out in the street and
saying no, not this time. The amman Arbury situation would
have disappeared if not for Black people getting in the

(26:09):
street and marching and say no, not this time. And
there's other situations where we have gone in the streets
and said no, not anymore, and we have made a difference.
And if we have a situation where black people feel
afraid to protest because we are afraid that this sheriff
or this officer might shoot or kill us, or just

(26:29):
deprive our liberty, just arrest us for nothing, that is
very chilling and frightening. That we need the ability to
be able to stand up and protest when our people
are wronged. All right, let's move on to politicking. Another
wild story. The new mayor of Tulsa, Oklahoma, Monroe Nichols,
has proposed a one hundred and five million dollar reparations

(26:53):
plan for the attendants of the nineteen twenty one Tulsa
Race massacre. This plan, which he calls a rod to Repair,
involves some good things, establishing a charitable trust to provide
funding for housing, scholarships, and historic preservation in the Greenwood District,
which was the epicenter of the Tulsa massacred The plan

(27:13):
focuses on community redevelopment. It does not include direct cash
payments for descendants. It's been over a century since insurrectionists
burned Black Wall Street to the ground. Look at the horror.
Look what they did to a thriving Black community that
was mining its business, that was doing its thing, that

(27:34):
had an amazing community and economy going on. They burned
it to the ground purely because of white supremacy, killing hundreds,
stealing generational wealth, and burying the truth. Mayor Nichols has
proposed one hundred and five million dollars and he calls
it a reparations plan. But if we're not paying the people,

(27:55):
what are we talking about. Mama Godfrey had a lot
to say say about reparations on DJ Vladd's show, I
Love Godfrey. He's funny, but he's also smart. So let's
look at this. It's a long clip, but I really
appreciate what Godfrey is talking about. To hear about reparations
that want to get into it and then talk about
reparations and Tulsa On the other.

Speaker 11 (28:16):
Side, I love every black person in this country to
get a million dollar check and one hundred acres of land.
Absolutely are they owe that amount one hundred percent if
not more black people?

Speaker 1 (28:24):
Okay, who would get that?

Speaker 3 (28:26):
Yeah, it would bankrupt the whole.

Speaker 11 (28:27):
Country for the people that built the country to make
you the fuck money all of a sudden, now you're
worried about being bankrupt when you spend trillions of dollars
on defense, trillions of dollars on unnecessary trillions of dollars
to send black men, especially to jail, trillions of dollars
to drug the fuck up our whole country, trillions of
dollars to fuck the food up, to fuck air up,
the water up, trillions of dollars to make people sicker

(28:50):
and sicker and sicker and sicker in this country. But
you mad, you, Oh, we don't have the money because,
plain and month and simple, you do not like black people.
It is very for hundreds of years we've been the
most hated within That hatred comes to hypocrisy.

Speaker 3 (29:05):
Of loving our culture.

Speaker 11 (29:06):
You've made trillions off of our mother culture.

Speaker 1 (29:08):
White musicians, all of them.

Speaker 11 (29:10):
Have made money off of black fucking culture.

Speaker 3 (29:13):
All of rock, all.

Speaker 11 (29:14):
Of jazz, all the shit we created from the oppression,
which is in itself the oppression and the abuse and
the rape and the putting down of us. We create blues, jazz,
rock and roll, reggae, SKA. We invent all of that
shit and the top it off. We invent all the
mocke that you all use from the cart the video

(29:34):
game cartridge. Henry Lawson, we got the pacemaker Otis Poynkin.
We have the doctor Bath who created the laser eye surgery.
We have doctor Gladys who's still alive, who's almost eighty
years old, who created GPS. We have the guy who
created the algorithm for Instagram, who's a twenty one year
old Ghanaian kid. We've done all this. Then the Internet
was discovered by a Nigerian guy in the eighties. Like
we've done all of this innovation, even though we've been

(29:55):
on and continue to.

Speaker 1 (29:57):
Be shown every monking.

Speaker 11 (29:59):
Day, right because nobody wants us to live anywhere. Nobody
wants us to have this unless we're playing sports for them,
athletically or sexually satisfying all black people are good for.
We're supposed to be a people's beck and call when
they want us to entertain them or make them some
kind of money. But if we ask for being autonomously
wealthy on our own, being autonomously having our own shit,

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all of a sudden, everybody pitches.

Speaker 1 (30:23):
Everybody has a fucking hissy fit.

Speaker 3 (30:25):
Lauren.

Speaker 1 (30:25):
I love Godfrey, I love how he combines politics and
the comedy, but I think there's two questions here, and
I want Lauren, I want you to start to deal
with this. First, is Tulsa's plan actually reparations? That's one question?
And do we as a people deserve reparations That's a
separate question, Lauren.

Speaker 9 (30:41):
You first, I would say, a form of reparations, and
yet still feels like a consolation prize if.

Speaker 8 (30:50):
You understand what I'm saying.

Speaker 9 (30:52):
And that's what's problematic about it, right because again back
to our intelligence, it's an insult on our intelligence to
think that these programs anything, even a free college education,
which I think godfre later suggested, could in.

Speaker 8 (31:07):
Any way amount to the amount of well that would
have been associated with those forty acres. I can't take it.

Speaker 9 (31:14):
I said, you know, I'm out here in LA and
I remember following the Bruce Beach story the family.

Speaker 8 (31:19):
Who ah, I followed that story. I don't know why
I couldn't get it out.

Speaker 9 (31:24):
I used to go over there and put my feet
on that earth and pray for that family because just
looking at that land, looking what was what was on
that land, and if I'm being very honest, thinking about
how much we paid for the airbnb that.

Speaker 7 (31:38):
We stayed at near that land, come on.

Speaker 8 (31:41):
To think about the fact that.

Speaker 9 (31:43):
It was our people's land, how do you quantify that?
And any little stick, you know what I mean, It's
like any little thing you give this like when you
a kid wants something, right, I want this thing and
then you trying to give it.

Speaker 8 (31:57):
No, no, here, play with this little ball. It's like, Nah,
I had a whole house.

Speaker 9 (32:03):
I want the whole playrooms. I feel like black people
feel like. And I'm gonna be very honest with you,
I don't have the answer. I've thought about it long
and hard because I wanted to say, like, you know what,
this is what we need and this is what we
need and everything I could come up with.

Speaker 8 (32:19):
It does feel like a consolation prize.

Speaker 9 (32:20):
I mean, even a college education is big of a proponent.

Speaker 8 (32:24):
As I am of education, born of.

Speaker 9 (32:26):
Two phded educators, college educators. I'm thinking to myself, now
they want to give college degrees away when we are
about to be replaced by robots.

Speaker 8 (32:37):
Now we want to give college educations.

Speaker 9 (32:40):
Away when all of us I mean, you know, I mean,
let's be honest, kids are graduating from college every day
they can get a job. Will that really repair reparations?

Speaker 8 (32:50):
Will in any way repair the harm done?

Speaker 9 (32:55):
I don't think we've really gotten to a place where
that's happened.

Speaker 1 (32:59):
Yet.

Speaker 8 (33:00):
I want the land, get my own mules. Hello, give
me my land.

Speaker 1 (33:07):
I love youbar dot go listen.

Speaker 6 (33:09):
First of all, hell fucking knows, not reparations. Second of all,
hell fucking yes, we deserve reparations. Why is it not reparations?
Because the BS that they're talking about spending this money on,
y'all is called community redevelopment. Let me enlighten our viewers.
Community redevelopment is paid by our taxes that we pay
as tax consumers. It's also paid by specially tax funded

(33:32):
programs and grants and voter approved initiatives. So why are
you using our fucking reparation money to pay for things
that we, if we taxpayers, are already paying for. So
wait a minute until you're double taxing us. What you're
doing is to say, I'm gonna use your tax money
to do what we are supposed to do, to create
public safety, create public policy, to create public places for

(33:54):
the public to enjoy. Right, it is our jobt to
use your tax funds for the schools K through twelve,
for the roads, for beautification, and for things such as
preserving the historic buildings and the historic beauty of a
city that comes with grants initiatives.

Speaker 7 (34:12):
But hold on, we're gonna double do it.

Speaker 6 (34:13):
We're gonna use your tax money to do it, and
we're gonna use your reparation money to do it. Then
we can say we gave you something. We repaired you.
You ain't RepA repaired the motherfucking thing, but the city
that you're just also repair that we live in, that
we pay taxes for. Take that bullshit and take it
somewhere else because it's not gonna cash at my bank.
What needs to be done is to what my sister,

(34:34):
Judge Lauren said, ruin us our tech. We're tired of
having the conversation about it. We're tired of fucking fighting
about it. You told us to do research on why
we deserve it. Guess what, Torey, Guess what.

Speaker 7 (34:44):
There was a whole freaking bill, a whole.

Speaker 6 (34:47):
Funding by our senator, our California State Senator Center Radford,
who raised the funds to do the research, to get
the data.

Speaker 8 (34:55):
To prove, to get right.

Speaker 7 (34:57):
For you to have a clear.

Speaker 6 (34:58):
Understanding, because you act like don't get it, but you're
so damn smart.

Speaker 7 (35:01):
Are you legislators? Are you politicians?

Speaker 6 (35:03):
For you to understand why in the fuck we deserve
what you took from us from the fucking first beginning.

Speaker 7 (35:09):
Run us our check Listen, Mike Man says that.

Speaker 6 (35:11):
It could be in land, you can cash at it,
venmo or Zelli, run us our Okay, But we don't
want is for you to beautify our cities when that
is what.

Speaker 8 (35:20):
We I, as a taxpayer, pays for.

Speaker 1 (35:23):
No, I don't want it. I think Shane's absolutely right
in that on both sides that Tulsa, what we're talking
about is not reparations reparations comes from the federal government
directly to the people.

Speaker 3 (35:35):
Right.

Speaker 1 (35:35):
Other races have experienced this in this country, in other countries.
When you win, the federal government, which was part of
enslaving us, pays us. Give me a check. Whether or
not you think I have money. I'm upper middle class,
lower middle whatever. Give me a check because I'm a
descendant of American slaves, and because we can explain directly
the economic impact that the slaves had on America, which

(35:58):
transformed America into the largest and greatest economy in the world.
We are the reason because you had free labor producing
the world's most important crop at that time, cotton. America
became the greatest economy in the world. So all economic
success derives from us, So we deserve a check. The

(36:19):
wealth inequality between black and white people will never be
down dealt with until you give a direct cash payment
to us from the federal government. You're right, then, Tulsa
to saying we're gonna use your tax dollars and call
it reparations. We already paid for that shit. You should, dimitri,
They should already be doing the stuff in the community redevelopment.

(36:41):
It's not actually reparations is prepairing, but it's not reparations.

Speaker 3 (36:46):
Absolutely.

Speaker 5 (36:47):
Imagine having fucking a large amount of credit at a
story and they'd be like, we're gonna get eat a
ten percent off.

Speaker 3 (36:53):
We don't know a fucking ten percent off. The thing
about it is they cheered us like we stupid.

Speaker 5 (36:57):
Reparations is far from cheering, and they want to make
it seem like we're begging for anything. Don't look me
in my face and promise me no goddamn scholarships and
housing programs, like you're doing me a favor. It's not
a favor. You You stole this land like this was taken.
You destroy families, you you you burned well through all
these things, and now you want to sit in my

(37:18):
face and tell me about a developmental plan disguised as reparations.
Don't just slap a name on an old trick and
expect us to smile. The thing about it is, it's
not that we're not eating currently. They're treating us like
we're starved. That's the problem. They're still treating us like
we're starved, so they feel like they can feed force
feed us anything.

Speaker 3 (37:35):
No, we want what we're old and my cash I
ain't working right now.

Speaker 1 (37:39):
So if they can sell it to me, you know,
I'm saying.

Speaker 8 (37:43):
I'll give it to you.

Speaker 7 (37:44):
Brother.

Speaker 1 (37:44):
I got part of the problem, I think with reparations
for the larger community, soon to be minority community, but
eternally the larger community that some black people have had success.
So there is a black middle, middle and upper middle class,
a very very tiny black upper class. But when you
can name four or five rich black people, a lot

(38:05):
of white people are gonna be like, well, why should
we give them? Why would Opra get a check? She's
the descendants of slaves, her life was impacted by being
a descendant of slave. She succeeded, but why should.

Speaker 3 (38:15):
She get a check?

Speaker 1 (38:16):
Why should Spike Lee get a check? And we could
make that argument, but the success of some black people
it makes it hard for other races to say, oh, yeah,
they should be getting checks.

Speaker 9 (38:27):
Well, can I just jump in here because that is
so true And that's part of the okie dough and
the point that everybody was making about you mean, they
just gonna take our tax dollars and try to do
something for us. Even if they gave us a check,
they still just really giving back money we already paid into,
Like that's the Oki dope we can't get away from.

Speaker 1 (38:47):
Right.

Speaker 8 (38:47):
That's why I was telling you last night. I was
sitting long and hard going what would be good enough?
Because the other Oakie.

Speaker 9 (38:53):
Dope is now, if they even gave us the land,
you know they're not gonna teach us how to pay
taxes on the land. Percent of the land they're gonna
take back anyway, because because we haven't been landowners, we
don't understand those responsibilities. We may not have the income
or know how to generate that they'll be taking the
land back for failure to pay taxes. So, you guys,

(39:13):
this is such a complex issue and it takes me
back to while the community revitalization and maybe some of
the plans in Tulsa are a form of repair. Like
I said, it's a form of a reparation, but it's
a consolation prize and not the reparations we know we
want and we know we deserve. But to God freeze point,

(39:35):
if we ain't gonna never get it, do we need
to start thinking creatively about what else we would access?

Speaker 8 (39:43):
That's the question, right? Are we cutting off our nose
despite our face?

Speaker 9 (39:48):
Are we not taking the crack in the door and
blowing it open and saying, Okay, let's start here, let's
grow it to hear. And I had to stop and
think about that at my fifty six years of age,
right as I I have a fourteen year old son
going to college soon. Like that college education thing to
me was like huh huh. And then I thought to myself, well,
I've been suffering through private school for a while and

(40:10):
I got college on my belt. If that could be free,
if that could be free, could that help me build
wealth over here? And I'm only challenging the thought that immediately,
you know, crushes anything that is not that land and
that check we want, because we could go on for
another four generations and not get nothing done.

Speaker 8 (40:32):
How do we think about it?

Speaker 11 (40:34):
Doctor?

Speaker 1 (40:34):
I think about that Chappelle's show sketch where they said, Okay,
you know we're giving everybody reparations, and you know it's comedy,
but the joke was, you know, niggas spoiled all the
money right away, right they spent all the money on
bullshit right away. Oh my god, I have a ton
of ton of molqu or a ton of T shirts
or whatever, a ton of Jordan's whatever, and I don't
I don't totally believe that. I think quite often we

(40:58):
are in economic trouble because we make money than other people.
I don't think we have some inherent inability to handle money.
But you do wonder in a community where we don't
have a history and a tradition and a communal knowledge
of how to deal with a large amount of money,
would some people ruin their reparations checks if they were

(41:18):
to get them because they I don't know what to
do with this money.

Speaker 7 (41:21):
Reparations means to repair what you.

Speaker 6 (41:25):
Just said, and Judge Lauren just said about financial literacy
and education on money management and land management and real
estate and taxes. That should be a part of the
reparation that comes.

Speaker 1 (41:36):
Free.

Speaker 6 (41:37):
Hold on repair means you repair the trauma ye, hold
on the psychological impact, the dicsion between our families, Hold
on the breakage within our historical lineage, our education disparity,
our health disparity, the marginalization that we experience in our community.

Speaker 7 (41:54):
They're broken homes, the fact that some of us don't
know where the fuck.

Speaker 8 (41:58):
We come from.

Speaker 6 (41:59):
Let's keep it real. We don't know what part of
Africa did I come from? Me I'm black in Latina
did I come from my leade engine half Mexico and
have a freaking South Africa?

Speaker 7 (42:08):
Am I from Ivory?

Speaker 5 (42:08):
Call?

Speaker 8 (42:09):
I mean, let's keep it real.

Speaker 7 (42:10):
A lot of people don't have that because it was
ripped from us.

Speaker 6 (42:13):
So when you talk about repairing, they need to repair
more than just monetization. It's more than just the land.
You need to repair all of it. You need to
have education for us. For you strip that from us,
you need to have it to where we have education
on family dynamics and systems, literary on financial literacy, taxes, everything.

Speaker 8 (42:30):
How do we purchase a home?

Speaker 7 (42:31):
You gave us this land. What are the.

Speaker 6 (42:33):
Opportunities we could do with this land so we can
create generational wealth that you took from us?

Speaker 8 (42:37):
How do we take businesses?

Speaker 7 (42:39):
How do we can't?

Speaker 3 (42:40):
Oh?

Speaker 7 (42:40):
Can we can?

Speaker 3 (42:41):
We?

Speaker 6 (42:41):
Can we build a compound on this land? Can we
build a hospital on this land? Can we get grants
and tax rackets? Can this land be the land that
is is aligned or or is what am I trying
to say is appointed by by the by the school district,
because you know, school districts can appoint land to you
and then you get grants and then you get funding

(43:02):
and now you have generational wealth. They need to repair
us on every mother fucking moving part that they destroyed
us at.

Speaker 8 (43:10):
And it's a whole full circle.

Speaker 6 (43:12):
So we need the new, the land, the education, the health,
and all of that because remember, we have a whole
Uh I'm getting off talk for a minute, but we
have a whole donnarrhea genocide that they did to us.

Speaker 7 (43:23):
Hold On, can you repair us from that? So what
I'm saying is when we talk reparations, you didn't just
take land.

Speaker 6 (43:27):
There's conversations that I have with my my father's side
who was black. They can't answer repair me from that.
I'm asking where do we come from? I'm asking what
it looked like back in the day. Why is it
that we don't have that knowledge?

Speaker 7 (43:40):
How can we can't have that in our family?

Speaker 8 (43:42):
Reuse?

Speaker 6 (43:43):
There's conversations we can't even have because of we are
not repaired. Okay, hold on, there's identity crisis, there's.

Speaker 7 (43:49):
Police butt out.

Speaker 6 (43:50):
Listen, It'll takes a whole two three episode for our rundown.
How you need to repair all of us. There's a
gender war going on right now between black men and
black women.

Speaker 7 (43:58):
Can you repair that?

Speaker 6 (44:00):
You know that starting slavery days. You know you messed
that up when you took our matt out the house.
You know you messed with that when the woman couldn't
respect the man that you took out, that couldn't be
a father, that couldn't be a husband because you took
that away and dissipated our families. Repair that, then we
have a fucking conversation about if we feel like if
we in the mood to repair the city that you

(44:20):
all benefit from most. I don't want to use my
tas though to repair this shit. I'm good a pass
a pass. There's a whole different conversation on how to
repair us.

Speaker 7 (44:28):
And I don't want to use all land on this.

Speaker 6 (44:30):
I don't want to use the federal tax money that
I pay taxes to. How about this y'all created grant
that's gonna come from something else to pay us what
you deserve us. And when we walk in somewhere, I
don't want to wait in line because guess what, handicap
disable people don't wait in line at the grocery store
at the DNB, and we get better parking.

Speaker 7 (44:47):
Wait a minute to right what.

Speaker 1 (44:48):
I'm saying with disabled people.

Speaker 6 (44:52):
Let me tell you why because we do have a
disabled community and raise the people that they created disabilities.
When your marginalize, when you're dispaired, that's the disability. Disability
isn't just physical or mental. You have disabled and broken
our community. So guess what we need to be at
the front of the line for all of these things
that we're talking about.

Speaker 7 (45:12):
You don't have to agree. I'm not asking for your validation.

Speaker 6 (45:14):
What I'm saying is we deserve to be at the
front and line for all of these things.

Speaker 7 (45:18):
That's what reparation means.

Speaker 6 (45:20):
If I break it, I repair it the entire thing,
not some of it, not some of it.

Speaker 1 (45:24):
I'm not looking for a handbecaped space for black people,
but we deserve it.

Speaker 3 (45:29):
My mother.

Speaker 1 (45:31):
And I do think that it is clearly morally owed
to black people that you ripped us from another country.
You worked us for hundreds of years, You extracted so
much wealth and labor from us for free. I don't
even think about the forty eight gres. I think about
the hours that my ancestors worked for you for free.

(45:55):
And let's start to figure out what that is and
how much wealth they generated, and then talk to me
about paying me that. And I saw in the Godfrey
interview DJ Bladd's little question that was bankrupt America. Noe,
we're not, sir, Noe, We're not. We have trillions that
we spend on defense. We could spend somebody on the
black people in this country that we wronged, who continue

(46:17):
to be wronged because of slavery.

Speaker 6 (46:20):
Okay, So, so to Ray's point, can you ask them
to tell us where we all sent our time? She said,
where do we send our time? She's for these hours
at Trip's talking about.

Speaker 8 (46:30):
Where's the time chief department?

Speaker 7 (46:32):
At Judge, where is the time sheet department?

Speaker 3 (46:34):
Where is it?

Speaker 1 (46:36):
Let's move on to our main topic. Who the fuck
runs America? They say, we're in a democracy, but who
is it for? Actually this episode, we're gonna strip away
the bullshit and try to figure out who are the
real power players pulling america strings, From billion dollar lobbyists
and shadow donors to Ivy League gatekeepers and corporate overlords.

(46:58):
Who really runs this country? And is it time to
weaponize our most powerful influencers? Now, there is a version
of this question that you may learn in school about
the separation of power, and I want to run a
little video about that and talk about how that relates
to who really runs the country.

Speaker 12 (47:20):
Can we see that video, you know, start tonight by
congratulating one hundred and eight twoh Congress.

Speaker 1 (47:32):
Who runs the US government?

Speaker 13 (47:35):
Well, if you ask Hollywood, it's pretty clear the president.
He's meeting aliens, fighting off terrorists, and defusing bombs. But
the reality is a bit more complicated. The United States
is a country of more than three hundred and thirty
million people. It's also the largest economy in the world.

(47:55):
Too much for one person to handle, so the load
is split into three. First, you have the executive branch,
which is the President and his secretaries. Then you have
the legislature, which is the US Congress, and finally the judiciary,
which is the Supreme Court in its lower courts.

Speaker 1 (48:11):
Together they run America. So that's an idea of it
all though we know the real decisions are made behind
closed doors by people we didn't elect and we cannot
hold them accountable. So we have a system that was
never designed to care about us, that we are not
part of, that controls us. So we want to talk
about how wealth, whiteness, and legacy networks decide who gets

(48:34):
freedom and who gets crumbs, and is America a Republic
or a business with a flag Dmitrian, a world of lobbyists,
legacy wealth, backroom deals. We have more black billionaires than ever,
but it seems we have less political power than ever.
So who do you think really runs America? And I
want everybody to really dive deep on that question and

(48:56):
keep it real. Who is the real power in America?

Speaker 5 (49:00):
Well, to me, a lot of people would be led
to believe it's the president. But I don't believe it's
the president. I think it's the people behind the scene,
who writes the checks for the president. I think the
president is a poster child for a bunch of ideas
and they found a good one this time. I tell
you they found a fucking good one this time.

Speaker 3 (49:23):
But the thing about.

Speaker 5 (49:24):
It is every four years we get hyped at the
idea of we tell people go vote, go vote, go vote.
We're really gonna make a difference. We're really gonna make
a difference. But I don't know if we understand that
the people who are actually in power, these billionaires, these lobbyists,
all these other people have never stepped foot in the
hood where we're from. I'm gonna be honest with you, toy.
The mindset of a black man in the hood. Every

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year we go vote, but nothing changes. Every four years
we get a new president and nothing changes. We always
sit and wonder why the hood still look the same
way the hood looks while the school still closing around us.
Why the food in the liquor stores, always in liquor
stores and corner stores, is always more snacks than it
is fresh produce. Like we see this and it led

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us to believe that there's nothing we can do to
change it.

Speaker 1 (50:12):
Because as much as there is a flourish of new.

Speaker 5 (50:15):
Black billionaires and millionaires X y Z, it doesn't matter
until they get a meeting in them boardrooms, to they
in the back of those green rooms having them conversations
developing policy. All of that is policy, and we've understood
in the hood that's a policy that our vote just
isn't going to change because it's not about who's in
the White House. It's who's funding. That's all it matters.

Speaker 9 (50:40):
This is so tough because I mean, look, I've been
to a whole law school and got a whole law degree,
and I would love to stand on the branches of
government and say that's true.

Speaker 8 (50:50):
It just isn't. We just witnessed it in real time.

Speaker 9 (50:55):
This election cycle, we're all of a sudden, out of
the blue. Despite all we've loved since fourth grade civics
on up, Elon Musk stepped center stage, into our government,
into our lives, and pretty much function as the president
until he got.

Speaker 8 (51:14):
Tired and his beloved company wasn't performing well.

Speaker 9 (51:17):
And it all happened, and nobody could stop it, right,
nobody could even stop his control when he decided to
get a little yappy and snap at the person who
holds the office of president.

Speaker 8 (51:34):
Right, there was a power there.

Speaker 9 (51:36):
And look, you know, as a woman, as a mother, okay,
I'm looking at this one way, as a taxpayer, a voter,
I'm looking at this like, well, I'll be damn right.

Speaker 1 (51:51):
It's this easy.

Speaker 9 (51:53):
It's who got the most money, has the power, has
the voice.

Speaker 8 (51:58):
That's what we saw.

Speaker 9 (51:59):
And not only that, I can tell you at the
drop of behead, if it wasn't for me, you wouldn't
even have been elected.

Speaker 8 (52:07):
Conney hit them with that.

Speaker 1 (52:09):
Come on, Lauren, Look, Lauren's absolutely right. The one percent
is the actual controllers of the country, the Koch Brothers,
Sheldon Aedelson, Elon Musk, the wealthiest of the wealthy are
setting the policies and setting the directions, and killing the
policies and killing the directions that they want and making

(52:31):
sure that the country moves in the direction that they want.
And it's quite dangerous to have the one percent controlling things.
Their money, their donations are far more powerful than votes.
And at this point, doctor Brian, we have enough black
billionaires in the world in this country who could have

(52:52):
an impact on our communities. But I can't really. I
think we see like I have a foundation, I have
a school, which seems like image protection. Like we can't
say you did nothing, But can I point to something
where I'm like Oprah Lebron Beyonce, jay Z, you know
degree Byron Allen. They did this that changed the mare.

(53:15):
They came in and they changed Flint. They came and
they made a black to They completely changed What have
they done? Nothing? They could? They have not done anything
significant for us.

Speaker 7 (53:26):
So who runs America are the folks who control it
with their wealth.

Speaker 6 (53:30):
What I love about that image we just seen was
a white guy who held a sign up this said
I can't afford a lobbyist.

Speaker 7 (53:35):
I am the ninety millions.

Speaker 6 (53:37):
Okay, why is that powerful because when I say the
billionaire families that control the America with their wealth, they
are the ones who are have media ownership. They are
the ones that are making the biggest political donations with
packs political action committees, meaning you don't have a cap
on how much you can raise with the pack and

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contribute to a campaign.

Speaker 8 (53:59):
Okay.

Speaker 6 (54:00):
So with lobbying, logging takes costs a lot of money,
and that allows.

Speaker 8 (54:03):
Him to have corporate control.

Speaker 6 (54:06):
And so when we're talking about who runs America, it's
the folks who are wealthy, the folks who can say
I'm going to start a pack and I'm gonna donate
four billion dollars in this pack, okay, and give this
to the president that's that's in office.

Speaker 7 (54:20):
I'm gonna give it to the state legislator because.

Speaker 6 (54:22):
I'm gonna need you to write policy that allows me
to develop and do things, and your juriddiction in your
state and your city are in the nation at a
level that allows the corruptness that I'm doing to be legal.
Because I got you to be able to write policy
or legislation that works for what I'm doing right now,
and I only need this policy to last for a
year or two until the project I'm working on has

(54:45):
made me billions.

Speaker 7 (54:46):
He must just did it with Doge.

Speaker 8 (54:48):
He just got in God is coined God.

Speaker 7 (54:50):
Is Doge And then said Trump, let's start an argument.

Speaker 6 (54:54):
Let's act like we're not getting along right now, so
I can cut it and hit stage left after I
got my money. That's is that what happened? And then
I want to go on with you, said Tory. You
said there's enough billionaires in America who should be able
to help fund some things.

Speaker 7 (55:05):
Yes, and no, there's only thirteen black.

Speaker 6 (55:08):
Billionaires in the US. There's one point seven million black
millionaires in the US. So and there's only thirteen point
four percent of us in this whole dam in the
United States of America that are black. So with the
thirteen black billionaires to the hundreds of white billionaires that
there are, our money starts to look like peanuts. I
always talk about Allyship. It does it and we always

(55:30):
talk about Allyship. And some people are foreign, some people
are like girl Allyship.

Speaker 8 (55:33):
Forget these white people.

Speaker 6 (55:34):
Know there's only thirteen billionaires, one point seven millionaires, thirteen
point four percent of us are here in the United
of America as a percent of a group of people.
If we don't ally with these other billionaires who don't
look like us and their money, we don't have enough
money to write policy, to write legislation, to lobby.

Speaker 7 (55:51):
To have some wealth control, we have to be able
to control at the level of two things, corporate level
and the level of contribution when it comes to elected
officials and politics. If we don't control politics with our wealth,
or the media or the corporate world, we are screwed.
We always talk about being at the table, but being
at the table only.

Speaker 6 (56:11):
Gives us an illusion of being a decision maker because.

Speaker 8 (56:15):
They're put us in as a decision maker.

Speaker 6 (56:16):
But systemically our decision doesn't even count for the shit
that we're at the table for, because the wealth and
where the money is is where accounts Lauren.

Speaker 1 (56:23):
She makes a good point that the money is able
to control politics, and there aren't really that many black
people who can compete in that game. And when we
have white people who are far out pacing us in
their ability to pay and thus control politicians because of
the money that they're giving, sometimes legally sometimes illegally, right,

(56:45):
that leaves us left out of the power conversation.

Speaker 9 (56:49):
Oh exactly, I mean, as doctor Bryant was talking, I'm
thinking to myself, Yes, as you mentioned Byron Allen, I
just recently read that he finally settled the lawsuit against
McDonald's about the access to the advertisement for black media outlets.
And I mean that's been in ongoing years. And I
think about our billionaires, who often are first generation billionaires, right,

(57:12):
we're literally we have not come from you know, five
and six generations.

Speaker 1 (57:17):
Right.

Speaker 9 (57:17):
I was just in Atlanta and took my son through
the Coca Cola dynasty down there in Atlanta, right, And
it's fascinating to see how long that company has sustained
itself through the generations. There are so few black people
that have experienced any of that kind of wealth. And
as doctor Brian said, connection and access, what I think

(57:41):
is becomes clear even through the Byron Allen lawsuit. And that,
of course is something that I followed because my show,
right is, is a part of Alan media group.

Speaker 8 (57:52):
So I'm following this consistently.

Speaker 9 (57:55):
And I thought to myself, even in his position, he's
still in a fight, right.

Speaker 8 (58:00):
We see him as.

Speaker 9 (58:01):
This incredible black man that has reached billionaire status, and
it is incredible, right, it is nothing short of incredible.
And yet just to be treated the same as other
white media conglomerates, I have to fight. I have to
go on a decade's long money, a draining fight to

(58:24):
be able to even Roland Martin has talked about it
consistently like where is the attention to black media? It's
real and we're not getting the access that we think
we are. So when we get the money, the access
is what then gets the allyship. And to doctor Bryant's point,
if we can have the money without the access and

(58:45):
then we have no allyship, we ain't going nowhere. And
last point, allyship requires mutual consideration.

Speaker 8 (58:51):
Why do we? Why do people?

Speaker 1 (58:54):
Right?

Speaker 9 (58:55):
Unless we show them why our allyship is important, then
they continue to neglect that.

Speaker 8 (59:00):
That's exactly what Target is going through right now. They
had to see.

Speaker 9 (59:04):
They had to f around and find out, Like the
kids say, why our ally ship? I mean, you know
what I'm saying, afll.

Speaker 1 (59:16):
Part of the problem is that we need to be
lobbying more, and we have tremendous influencers who we could
weaponize to use their power. They've been using it in culture.
Maybe they should be using it more in politics. Maybe
they should be using it more in terms of controlling
or at least influencing politicians. We talk about, you know,

(59:39):
our rich folks, Tyler, Perry, Oprah, Magic Jordan, whatever like,
should they be funding lobbying so that we can get
some of the ideas that we need to meet you.
What do you think about that?

Speaker 3 (59:51):
I think the idea of it is absolutely.

Speaker 5 (59:55):
I think the thing about it is we watch our influencers.
Are celebrities stand up when it's about them. We watch
them when it's time for our album release, We watch
them when it's time for a fucking influencer deal where
they're pushing a product in our face, telling us what
to buy.

Speaker 3 (01:00:12):
But rarely do you ever see them stand up for culture.

Speaker 5 (01:00:14):
Now, there is exceptions where you've seen some people come
out march, and you've see some people do all.

Speaker 3 (01:00:18):
Of these things.

Speaker 5 (01:00:19):
But what I think when I see celebrities and what
they don't understand is we're not asking you to save this.

Speaker 3 (01:00:26):
We understand this shit is not a movie.

Speaker 5 (01:00:27):
You cannot be a hero because you have more money,
but what you do have is the same voice on
a louder mic.

Speaker 1 (01:00:34):
We need for you to speak when it.

Speaker 5 (01:00:37):
Matters, not just when it's healthy for your pockets because
as you've seen, as we all seen, every time an
artist or an influencer got paid to come be at
a Trump rally or fucking on a campaign, they was
right fucking there. But when it's time to stand up
for the exact same people you come from.

Speaker 1 (01:00:52):
You're only popular because of us. Right now, you act.

Speaker 5 (01:00:56):
Like you above us when it matters. That's all I'm saying.
I ain't you got to come save today, please, That's
not what I'm saying. Don't use your money to save
other people's lives. We write our own stories. We can
be the heroes of our own. But you either with the.

Speaker 3 (01:01:09):
People who built you, or you're against the people who
built you.

Speaker 5 (01:01:11):
And right now we need you, guys to help amplify
everything we said Doc.

Speaker 7 (01:01:17):
You mentioned influencers, right this is the thing.

Speaker 6 (01:01:21):
Influencers are directly married to media, social media media. That's
why they're influencers, or they're directly media to you know,
married to where the eyes are going to be on them. Unfortunately,
I've gone viral hundreds, I've gone wildfire, double, triple, quadruple viral.
I have lit up to talks so many times about politics, policies,

(01:01:43):
black voice, black think tanks and resolution and black disparities
and health marginalization and all that stuff. Right and out
of all these times, hundreds and hundreds of times I've
gone viral, it's always on topics that will influence the viewers.
Those topics don't seem to be the policies, the lobbying,

(01:02:07):
the legislation, the politics, the who's in office, local or national.

Speaker 8 (01:02:12):
That is a problem.

Speaker 6 (01:02:13):
We talked about this on Chew Talks before, about media
and black media not pushing out the things that are
going to educate our community on the things that will
help us become better stockholders.

Speaker 7 (01:02:24):
In policies in politics.

Speaker 8 (01:02:26):
That work for us.

Speaker 6 (01:02:28):
Myself and Marlon Wayne had talked about months ago creating.

Speaker 8 (01:02:32):
Think tanks together.

Speaker 6 (01:02:33):
We said, let's just these big as zoom meetings and
by all black people, but we're going to do it quietly.
We're only the who's of us black folks, mean, everybody
who's black is invited to these zoom think tanks.

Speaker 7 (01:02:43):
But we were not going to put it on social media.

Speaker 6 (01:02:45):
We were not going to put it on media, right,
and we were going to actually think tank about what
do we need in our community, how do we raise
funds to lobby. How do we do this as a
group of people who are strategizing now we have an
executed it fully yet because it's taking.

Speaker 8 (01:03:01):
More moving parts.

Speaker 7 (01:03:02):
But my point in saying that is, sadly.

Speaker 6 (01:03:05):
What influences the folks who are watching media happens to
not be the shit that we need to talk about.
Happens to not be the things about reparations, about policy,
about black healthcare, about black family, unless I'm talking about
the black family, says, then you can relate to this
being broken our or broken homes, or how black men

(01:03:25):
or black women are not doing this, our gender wars.
Unless it's a negative narrative, guess what, it doesn't fucking
get the influence. That's sad, that's a problem. This is
why Truth Talks is so important, because we talk in
the truth that people need to hear to help them
not only have a seat at the table, but be
able to call on the folks they know, be able
to learn what lobbying even is, to be able to

(01:03:45):
learn what it costs to do that, and start to
put together campaigns so we can lobby about things.

Speaker 8 (01:03:50):
That work for us.

Speaker 1 (01:03:51):
There's two sides, though, I think because Trump and the
right have somehow begun to understand and culture and influencers,
and there's Aidan Ross's and these other white boys who
are using their podcasts and their platforms, and these clowns
Miller and Bannon who are able to speak to their

(01:04:14):
community in a way that they understand. And you know,
we are dealing with Miller and Bannon's bullshit, but like
we need to be able to be in conversation with
DC in a serious way. And not always are influencers
who are amazing in movies or music or basketball or

(01:04:34):
even in business. Do they always know what to say
or how to lead us politically?

Speaker 3 (01:04:40):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:04:41):
I would rather see people who are activists, people who
are political, people who deeply understand what that is about
lead the way in that that was part of what
was so powerful with Black Lives Matter, that you had
young people who are incredibly thoughtful and knowledgeable about politics
leading us. And we need to be speaking to through lobbying.

(01:05:01):
So I mean, I would welcome the black wealthy giving
us some money so we can have some lobbying power,
but I want to see people who actually understand politics
be involved in our political conversation.

Speaker 9 (01:05:16):
And it not just be in the political presidential election
cycle that it extends, right.

Speaker 8 (01:05:23):
I think we go through these things.

Speaker 9 (01:05:24):
Where in the churches and all the politicians visit the churches,
and just for that time, politics is on our plate,
and the next thing, you know, we're back to whatever
the new conference is, whatever the new award show is.

Speaker 8 (01:05:38):
I also think it's important to note that influencers.

Speaker 9 (01:05:40):
Our influencers are tied to corporations, right, that pay them
to promote a product. So now basically we've got a
whole bunch of salespeople. And when do we trust salespeople?
I mean, not to be funny, but it's the world
we've created. It's something I've struggled with in my own
life and career where people will you should be an influenced.

Speaker 1 (01:06:02):
But well, I'm gonna hold on that.

Speaker 9 (01:06:03):
How many products I got to say I'm using that
I ain't using because I wore a check, right, I mean,
that's that's what we're out here doing now, because then
when the check starts coming in, you don't talk about.

Speaker 1 (01:06:16):
That product though more? Can we get you modeling robes?

Speaker 8 (01:06:22):
That's something I really do wear.

Speaker 9 (01:06:24):
But I say that to say, and I thought, I
think kai is it sen sonat I'm gonna get in trouble. Sorry,
I'm sorry, I'm so sorry. I know who he is,
he loves him, but he recently came. I do read though,
so he said that he didn't take a check for
the BT Awards for appearance, he said, and I thought
this was just wow, this.

Speaker 8 (01:06:45):
Young man got it. I didn't take a check.

Speaker 9 (01:06:47):
For coming there because a check is often associated or
comes along with some type of corporate responsibility expectation that.

Speaker 8 (01:06:58):
I don't want when I come somewhere.

Speaker 9 (01:07:00):
I want to be able to come and I want
to be able to talk about it the way I
want to talk about it. Can you imagine how many
of our influencers and all of us, let's be honest,
who are employed by corporations where our livelihood is rooted
in that work. You don't feel free to say exactly
what you want to say because at the end of
the day, that's where your paycheck comes from.

Speaker 8 (01:07:20):
That that's what we're going through.

Speaker 1 (01:07:22):
You're absolutely right that the people we work for does
constrain what we can say. And when you're cause to
that and you're paid by all the people watching your stream,
you can say what you want. When you work at
the corporation and your boss Dimitry is a billionaire. You
may not want to be so critical of billionaires.

Speaker 3 (01:07:40):
Which my boss is here on Truth Talks.

Speaker 11 (01:07:42):
No.

Speaker 5 (01:07:42):
But the thing about it is, I want to I
want to offer a different perspective.

Speaker 3 (01:07:47):
I understanding where you guys are looking at it. I
see it. I get it. You want more political figures.

Speaker 1 (01:07:51):
But there's a difference as.

Speaker 5 (01:07:53):
I'm looking at our generation and I'm a little more
familiar with Kyle than you may be. But the thing
about it is when you have influence, everything you do
is influence you.

Speaker 3 (01:08:03):
Okay, So what I mean is you don't have to
go viral with a post.

Speaker 1 (01:08:07):
Where you show up to people show up to.

Speaker 3 (01:08:10):
It was an event in New York.

Speaker 5 (01:08:12):
They had to pull police out because Casanat said this
is where I'll be at this time, and half of
New York came outside.

Speaker 1 (01:08:20):
That's all I'm saying. It's about what you do.

Speaker 5 (01:08:22):
I ain't saying the easier elace P three is really
talk about wars.

Speaker 1 (01:08:28):
Let's let's look at it.

Speaker 3 (01:08:29):
There was a moment where Kurt Franklin and Casanat came together.

Speaker 5 (01:08:33):
Mind you, Kurt Franklin, is you know of older age
and Casanat is almost technically still a kid, but they
came together. He hugged him and he said, Uncle Kurt,
it's about the connection between the two. It's where it matters.
And I don't think people understand that that connection is powerful.
If you get influencers who actually learning from politicians and
can be courted and what to say and what not

(01:08:56):
to say, and where to be and what to do,
it's powerful. That's all I'm saying. Fucking Gloriala just want
a goddamn.

Speaker 8 (01:09:03):
BT, a gospel b et.

Speaker 3 (01:09:07):
She's not gospel and she ain't gospel at ah.

Speaker 1 (01:09:10):
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (01:09:11):
Once you link that bridge together and get people, the
influencers in place where they need to be with people
of political status, it could be something powerful.

Speaker 3 (01:09:21):
That's all I'm saying. Don't discount it.

Speaker 6 (01:09:23):
Yeah, And I got to say to that point, I
love that you said, Dmitri, because external influence gives you
internal leverage.

Speaker 14 (01:09:30):
Gloriala's external influence gave her internal leverage to win a
gospel genre award where I like glow, but she's not gospel,
and the gospel community genre was going crazy.

Speaker 8 (01:09:42):
They're like, we love glow.

Speaker 7 (01:09:44):
Anybody can praise, but she's not gospel.

Speaker 6 (01:09:47):
And I want to say this really quick because I
want to give our black folks just some tips on
how do you gain some corporate leverage, some corporate power. Right,
ownership it gives you equity. Can you invest, Can you
have stocking it? Can you own your own corporation? Climbing
to the executive louder? Can you become an executive, a CEO,
a CFO, some kind of executive in that corporation that
you're involved in.

Speaker 8 (01:10:07):
Build or lead your own powerful, brander product.

Speaker 6 (01:10:10):
Judge Lauren just talked about that, right, instead of being
an influencer for these products, build or lead your own
product and get influencers to influence that control your relationship,
data or capital. Meaning if you're the owner, you control
your capital, If you're the owner, you control your data.

Speaker 8 (01:10:25):
You also control your relationships.

Speaker 6 (01:10:27):
Lastly, you have to be able to influence the boardroom
because at the end of the day, if you have
no influence over the boardroom or decision makers, guess what,
you have.

Speaker 8 (01:10:35):
No fucking influence.

Speaker 6 (01:10:36):
And we have to learn how to do that and
learn that once I influence a boardroom, that gives me
external influence.

Speaker 8 (01:10:42):
I then have internal leverage.

Speaker 6 (01:10:44):
Let me learn how to use my internal leverage to
work for the people who I want it to have
the most impact on.

Speaker 1 (01:10:49):
I also think that if you feel like that's a
little above that great device is a little above where
you are. We can also think about finding folks in
your workplace who are a little above you in terms
of seniority and trying to get mentorship from them. And
you don't even have to use the m mentorship word.

(01:11:10):
Just ask them questions about how does one move up?
How do I get up to the next level, And
they may if they're a friend, they may be willing
to or able to give you some advice, some actionable
advice that helps you start to move up, because sometimes
big leaps are hard, but small leaps up the corporate
ladder or up the ladder at wherever wherever you're at

(01:11:32):
can be very helpful propelling your career. If you can
find that person who loves you enough and cares and
respects you enough give you the advice you need to
keep moving up, that's show for two.

Speaker 8 (01:11:43):
Oh God, I'm so sorry.

Speaker 9 (01:11:44):
I just before you go, I just had to say
what you said was so important overt and.

Speaker 8 (01:11:49):
Covert operations at the same time.

Speaker 9 (01:11:50):
We can't forget that we can work within the system
and also outside of it. I think what you said
was so powerful. I just wanted to echo it because
I was so glad you said it.

Speaker 1 (01:12:00):
Thank you. I just when I was coming up, I
got so much out of like going into somebody's office
and being like, Hey, how do I get to be
a little bit more like you? And asking questions upward?
Especially if you ask this for DMITI. If you ask
older people for their advice and wisdom, oh my god,
they want to you.

Speaker 6 (01:12:22):
The ant ancestors have the most wisdom. Ancestors have the
most wisdom.

Speaker 8 (01:12:29):
Him they got the insight think about our ancestors.

Speaker 9 (01:12:32):
While there was a whole enslaved people, enslaved people planning revolts,
there was also someone working in that house that knew
every move of that house to let you know when
to run.

Speaker 8 (01:12:44):
It's both working in concert, Lauren.

Speaker 1 (01:12:47):
I love that you. What Doc was doing was insulting
us by calling us answer you right now.

Speaker 8 (01:12:56):
You that's so funny. But you know what, I'm proud.

Speaker 1 (01:13:00):
I'm fifty six.

Speaker 8 (01:13:01):
No ancestor.

Speaker 6 (01:13:02):
You you you you would fine Auntie Torrey is an ancestor.

Speaker 7 (01:13:05):
He was on the Time Winner Rower Rock Now. He
might have been a house nigga, but he was definitely.

Speaker 1 (01:13:10):
He was never that never that never that wow Wow.
I never got to call the house nigga by someone
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