EPS 017 - Kanye at Diddy's Trial, SCOTUS Says Family Can Sue FBI & When the Grid Goes Down!

We dive into the viral moment that had everyone talking: Kanye West pulling up to Diddy’s trail. Support? Strategy? Or another chapter in the Kanye playbook of media attention? Then it’s the case that’s sent shockwaves through the legal system! The Supreme Court sided with a Georgia family seeking justice after a wrongful home invasion by the FBI. Then we ask what happens if the US power grid collapses? No lights, no internet, no order, just straight chaos and the Black community left alone on the frontline of disaster.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to truth Talks. I'm Judge Lauren Lake. You ever
wonder what happens when the system fails?

Speaker 2 (00:07):
Even just for a second. This week, a headline caught my.

Speaker 1 (00:11):
Eye for side traffic light goes out and causes having
one intersection no lights and the whole city damn near
lost his mind. Now imagine that, but everywhere no power,
no signal, no help. If one traffic light can shut
down a street, what happens when the whole grid goes dark?

(00:35):
Cyber attack, blackout, disaster, whatever the cause, Black communities will
be hit the hardest. Why because we're always left out
of the planning, the warning and the recovery. Tonight we're
asking the urgent question, are we prepared or are we
the most at risk? This is about more than electricity.

(00:58):
It's about power, who has has it and who's left
in the dark.

Speaker 2 (01:03):
Let's get into it.

Speaker 3 (01:17):
Are you all ready to roll? Let y'all.

Speaker 4 (01:22):
And you, Judge Lauren Lakes, this is truth Talks.

Speaker 5 (01:24):
So we're gonna deal with a very serious issue today
because we got to know what happens if the grid
goes down? And what will black people need to do
and know in that crazy situation? And when we're dealing
with that entirely different side of life. Let's bring it
the TV. You already bet, Judge Lauren Lake, welcome, Happy
to have you and hanging out with us today.

Speaker 2 (01:43):
Thank you.

Speaker 5 (01:44):
Great to be here, and of course the lost lover
boy to be Tree Wiley.

Speaker 3 (01:48):
It is a pleasure again.

Speaker 5 (01:50):
My brother and doctor Shyanne Brian is here with us
as always.

Speaker 4 (01:54):
How are you?

Speaker 6 (01:55):
I'm Villa Torre. I could have got a better intro,
but listen, I'll do it myself. What's up? Dosk ought?
Is doctor Shy and Bryant?

Speaker 7 (02:01):
Because my brother Terrey wants to act like you know,
he is out of the doghouse, but he's still in
the dog house. I'm out, though, and I have the
key to his dog house. Listen, all we got topics today.
You know, we're gonna cover some good stuff. I don't
want to really hear anything Toy has to say, but unfortunately,
because he's my co host, there's just some things that
I'm gonna have to listen to and try my damnness

(02:22):
to not agree with.

Speaker 4 (02:24):
Let's do it together.

Speaker 5 (02:25):
Let's you and also my co host, doctor Shyanne Bryant.

Speaker 7 (02:31):
Right, Okay, he's halfway out the doghouse Shaw halfway only,
partial only partia.

Speaker 5 (02:38):
I appreciate, I appreciate, I get the toad right tonight.
We got to show that you and your loved ones
will want to watch till the end and share with
other people. We're gonna break down the racial gaps in
emergency preparedness, why survival isn't just about supplies, and what
black families have to do to protect ourselves when the
grid goes down and everything is black and you know

(02:58):
no one is coming, emergent services not coming, You've got
to take care of yourself. You've got to protect you
and your community. That's later, Right now, let's get into
trending truths. Kanye crash Diddy's trial with a dramatic courthouse
appearance last week, causing.

Speaker 4 (03:15):
A brief spectacle.

Speaker 5 (03:17):
He was in and out in forty minutes, try to
get in the courtroom, could not get in the courtroom,
and he left Judge Lauren is Yay putting on for
the cameras or is he really genuine and trying to
help Diddy here?

Speaker 1 (03:30):
This is very interesting because you know previously he called.

Speaker 2 (03:36):
Didy an informant.

Speaker 1 (03:37):
It was like a beef and then lately the tide
has switched.

Speaker 2 (03:41):
He's definitely now on Ditty's side.

Speaker 1 (03:44):
But it was the timing of him showing up because
there was so much speculation about testimony related to this
freak off with a famous rapper and his wife, and
everybody was speculating that it could be him and his
and then the very next day they.

Speaker 2 (04:02):
Pull up to court.

Speaker 1 (04:03):
It was like bizarre, And I mean, look, I definitely
can't be in the courtroom every day, but I try
to follow along. And even I was like, now, what
move was this? And the crazy thing was he caused
such a spectacle. He only got in the overflow room.
He didn't get in the courtroom. Oh yeah, he probably
had to lead. It was probably a spectacle.

Speaker 5 (04:23):
Until if you're a judge on that case, do you
think that having a superstar like Kanye come into the
courtroom is disruptive to the whole environment.

Speaker 1 (04:33):
Well, of course it's disruptive, But I mean, if he
wants to come in and be respectful and sit and
watch just like Diddy children, I mean, everybody the judge
has control of the courtroom, so we ain't signing no
autographs and doing no instagrams while court's going on and
all of that nonsense. But I do think it would
have an interesting effect on the jury depending on what

(04:54):
they feel about Kanye.

Speaker 2 (04:58):
And so I think his support of Diddy.

Speaker 1 (05:01):
But I mean, especially after that testimony, because I was
thinking to myself, now, is he coming to support Diddy
or is this some little low key way of saying
yes me.

Speaker 4 (05:09):
Like I couldn't right.

Speaker 5 (05:11):
No, I got the same vibe that coming right after
the testimony that seemed very much to be about him
and his own relationship with sex workers. It definitely seemed
to be like, oh, you talked about me, Well, I
want to make sure that you know that it's me.
I do think I think it's both sides of this question.
Is it him trying to support Diddy or is it

(05:33):
him trying to come up in a pr with like, yes,
he always wants to be in the light, to be
seed you mentioned him, he shall appear. He may appear
on this show later today, because it's like if you
say my name, because I want to be part of
whatever circus you got.

Speaker 8 (05:48):
To beat you, ah man, This is typical, yeah for
me to come to the courtroom, whether y'all know it
or not, whether you see the fit or not, you know,
dressed in all white like that. You know what I'm saying,
second coming, This is basic yay antics, Yeay.

Speaker 3 (06:03):
He's been doing this for years. I'm actually sick of
this shit.

Speaker 8 (06:06):
I'm be honest with you, from the moment that you
gotta imagine this is the same man who jumped on
stage to give his opinions on an award he had
nothing to do with.

Speaker 3 (06:15):
Matter this much. You say, what like his music? Do
I still like his music? I ain't like the song
since like two thousand and ten. But that's just me.

Speaker 8 (06:25):
I'm not I think there's an ego inflation that Kanye
walks around with, and it's clear and evident when you
show up to a courtroom that has nothing to do
with you. And don't get me wrong, I know his
name man been in it. But if you're not summoned,
then they don't want.

Speaker 3 (06:37):
To hear from you. It's a reason you didn't get in. See.

Speaker 8 (06:40):
I respect the loyalty. If this is some loyalty were
talking about, I respect that. But as a friend, sometimes
you got to know when it's best to speak loudly,
and sometimes you gotta know when it's best to sit
down and shut the fuck up.

Speaker 4 (06:51):
But that's just me.

Speaker 7 (06:53):
I think I absolutely love what Dmiti said. If you
ain't Summons, find something else for your ass to do. Hey,
this is typical narcissistic Yay. It's like if it's about me,
If it ain't about me, I'm gonna pop up and
make it about me.

Speaker 6 (07:08):
And since I was.

Speaker 7 (07:10):
I was told, now Summons, I was told y'all dropped
the Yay bomb in the courtroom, I'm gonna show up
and show up with I know y'all keep saying wife.
I was under the impression that they were divorcing or separated.

Speaker 4 (07:25):
Fake news. They're good.

Speaker 6 (07:27):
Oh fake news. Okay, thanks, So okay.

Speaker 7 (07:29):
So my point is that showed up with the wife
to kind of put a stamp on Yeah, y'all said.
It happened back in January with a big celebrities wife
who had a birthday in Vegas. We know Yay and
Beyonca's birthday is in January. Yay and Bianca were in
Vegas in January, and we know, not fake news. They

(07:53):
were having some pretty nice freakofs three some four some
swing or whatever you want to call it. And Torrey,
you might like this. My brother and I'm gonna wrap
on this board. I got some of my information from
going to your Instagram page and your TikTok.

Speaker 6 (08:07):
Listen until you cover this story. Hold on, you ready
for this. I'm about to drop a bomb. Hold on.
I hate that I'm saying this. I'm a whisper because
I hate saying good things loud to you.

Speaker 4 (08:17):
Great job, brother, Thank you, sister.

Speaker 5 (08:22):
No I was on your Instagram and I saw you
with your nephew at the graduation, and it was so
beautiful and the pride and the joy as an auntie
in his big moment.

Speaker 4 (08:32):
I appreciated that.

Speaker 5 (08:34):
But I do think that Yay wants the light in
any imaginable way, whether it's look at me, I'm antisemitic,
or look at me I'm hanging out with Diddy when
he's going through his shit.

Speaker 4 (08:46):
Like wherever there's light, I want to be there.

Speaker 3 (08:49):
So I'm a.

Speaker 4 (08:50):
Little thrown off. But like, yeah, they were, Lauren. It
was really kind of heavy because it doesn't really have
anything to do.

Speaker 5 (08:57):
Maybe it does, I wonder well, Actually, let's ask the question,
what does it have to do with Ditty's trial for
somebody to say I was with somebody else and Kanye
having the same sort of wild sex party.

Speaker 4 (09:12):
That we're talking about over here with Diddy.

Speaker 2 (09:15):
Okay, wait, I want to understand your question.

Speaker 1 (09:16):
You mean, does it help Ditty's defense that.

Speaker 4 (09:20):
He was getting Kanye because we did freak offs?

Speaker 9 (09:23):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (09:24):
Yeah, saying we did freak offs.

Speaker 5 (09:25):
But then Jane saying I witnessed Kanye and others as
part of a freak off that Diddy wasn't even at well.

Speaker 1 (09:32):
Right, So that kind of says to the jury, right
that we're not the only ones doing this. He's not
the only one doing this. This is commonplace. A matter
of fact, these things go on even when Diddy isn't there. Now,
she was, of course walking the line like that witness
was a little bit off. Like I said, I'm a
former criminal defense attorney, so I was really trying to

(09:54):
figure out here, you know, it was feeling like a
defense witness. But they did get a lot out of her.
I think just the pronounce what was pronounced in her
was the fact that you know, she definitely wanted him
to be hers.

Speaker 2 (10:09):
Oh, this hair is doing what it want to do.

Speaker 4 (10:12):
I know, you should get it exactly where you want
it to be.

Speaker 7 (10:17):
Yes, yes, yes, in you and old got the curls pop,
but hair maniacs could definitely say the day.

Speaker 1 (10:25):
But I will say this, I do think there is
something that speaks to her almost saying this is a thing,
this is what we do, this is not unheard of. However,
that doesn't necessarily negate the fact that there may have
been times when it was coursed manipulated when they don't

(10:46):
want to do it, so that that's where it gets
kind of odd and people don't understand. Similar to rape
in the sense that yeah, you may want to have
sex thirty two times, but if on the thirty third
time you say no, I don't want to do it,
and people close you up in a room or or
threaten you bodily harm or something, that still is considered

(11:08):
a rape. Going back to Yay, I do think though,
in terms of the jury, if I was the defense,
I probably would have want him to get into the
gallery and get to have a seat. I think unfortunately,
I think star power, the support of the star power
lends itself to this thought that this was a wealthy,

(11:31):
unhinged man that was on drugs. Right, we equate Kanye
with a certain level of mental illness. They're trying to
kind of set Diddy up that he was on drugs
and you know, kind of not in his right mind.

Speaker 2 (11:44):
And it aligns it with this sense.

Speaker 1 (11:47):
Of like I'm powerful, I got all the money in
the world.

Speaker 2 (11:50):
I'm high.

Speaker 1 (11:51):
Girls want to get at us, they want to do
anything to be with us. These are the kind of
rooms we're in and this is commonplace. I think there
is a little bit to the defense that would have
would have been interesting for him to sit in and
for the jury to see him in support.

Speaker 5 (12:07):
The other thing, I think Lauren and I want to
close out on this. If you have friends like Kanye,
you don't need enemy's if you're ditty in trouble, Kanye
is the last person I want in the room God
for I mean, like just with the anti sebitism, the
anti blackness, like all this craft that he's been spitting
for years now, I'm like you.

Speaker 1 (12:28):
But but it doesn't matter to Ray because he has
nine lives, Like look at this. He amazes me with
the way he continues to enter the media space and
people still regard him as some iconic superstar despite everything
he said.

Speaker 2 (12:44):
There's still this feeling of and whether you like it
or not, is that's Kanye.

Speaker 1 (12:50):
Yeah, and they're interested in him and they want to
know what he does. And there is a certain star trucks.
If we want to break it down real quick before
we get off this topic.

Speaker 2 (12:59):
Look at what women are doing, right And.

Speaker 1 (13:03):
Look, I'm a criminal from a criminal defense attorney, so
I see this. There's a part of this that yes,
was about potential rape, about coercion, about being forced to
do things against their will, about being forced.

Speaker 2 (13:18):
To take drugs.

Speaker 1 (13:18):
There's another part of this with the women that is
how much will I do to stay in the presence
of a powerful, wealthy superstar and potentially get to be
his woman?

Speaker 6 (13:32):
Yeah, And I think.

Speaker 1 (13:34):
Despite everything Kanye has done and said, people look at
the courtroom, the whole New cycle.

Speaker 2 (13:40):
Turn to Kanye that day.

Speaker 4 (13:42):
It sure did.

Speaker 5 (13:42):
And I you imagine that if he gets into the courtroom,
that potentially has an impact on the trial in some way.
Jurors distracted from Yes, Tony what have you? You know,
I don't want the jury to be distracted by celebri
positively or negatively.

Speaker 4 (14:03):
Let's listen to the evidence.

Speaker 5 (14:04):
It doesn't matter if Kanye is supporting Diddy or not, right,
just listen to evidence and let's go from there. Let's
move on to politicking, because we have a really important
and powerful story to talk about. The Supreme Court has
ruled in favor of a family that was wrongfully raided
by the FBI, opening the door for victims to sue
the government. Now, before we celebrate, gotta be real.

Speaker 4 (14:27):
This is not just.

Speaker 5 (14:28):
For everybody so far right, there's one hundred others who
aren't getting an apology. But in twenty seventeen, this sister,
Trina Martin, a black woman in Atlanta, Georgia, had her
home wrongly raided by the FBI while her seven year
old son watched.

Speaker 4 (14:42):
The FBI went to the wrong house.

Speaker 5 (14:44):
There were no drugs there, there was no arrest made,
just lots of property damage and lifelong trauma. And to
make it worse, the family was notified that they could
not sue law enforcement because law enforcement has qualified immunity.
Let's take a look book at a story about the
raid so we can understand a little more deeply about

(15:04):
what happened to the sister in Atlanta, Georgia.

Speaker 9 (15:08):
Hundreds of these cases happen every year, the police showing
up at the wrong address or receiving bad intelligence, storming
in damaging a house, traumatizing a family, and then having
no responsibility for their actions. That's because the government enjoys
broad immunity under federal law. You can't sue the government
when they make a mistake. But what the Supreme Court

(15:30):
did with this unanimous decision is they opened the door now,
at least in this specific type of instance when police
are wrong, according to the Supreme Court, committing an assault, battery,
false imprisonment, false arress, or abuse of process, that families
can get in the courthouse door to bring a damage's
claim for what they suffered and their property damage.

Speaker 6 (15:51):
And this family will do just that.

Speaker 9 (15:53):
The Supreme Court did not decide their claims today and
said it's still possible. They may not succeed in the end,
but in this unanimous decision by Justice Neil Gorsich, the
case can go forward.

Speaker 4 (16:05):
Judgeley, help me understand.

Speaker 5 (16:06):
Can we sue law enforcement when they make a mistake
for the Supreme Court or can we not?

Speaker 2 (16:12):
There are exceptions.

Speaker 1 (16:14):
Normally, the government does have a level of sovereign immunity
right where you can't sue the government. However, there are exceptions,
and it's called the federal tort claims Act FTCA. It
allows individuals to sue the United States government for certain tourts,
certain wrongdoings that are committed by federal employees acting in

(16:36):
the scope of their employment. And this ruling, I think
is a crack in the door in the right direction.
It's not the promised land. But and as you mentioned
in your open there are countless individuals that have suffered
and have had no recourse. But it's a beginning because
when there is negligence, wrong doing, false imprisonment, things of

(17:00):
that nature.

Speaker 2 (17:01):
Basically, the Supreme Court has.

Speaker 1 (17:03):
Said unanimously that the door is not completely closed to recovery.

Speaker 2 (17:07):
And I think we got to take the inches where
we get.

Speaker 5 (17:09):
Them to betri It's really hard to imagine or to
conceive of a world where the police can barge into
your home if they have made a mistake coming to
the wrong home.

Speaker 4 (17:20):
Hey, I'm a law abiding citisen. I'm not doing anything.

Speaker 5 (17:23):
They don't have to say sorry, they don't have to
repay you for the mistakes that they've made. They don't
have to make you whole for wrongfully arresting you, wrongfully
invading your home. The immunity seems like a huge problem
that we need to get past, like, how do we
even deal with immunity being used as a shield for them?

Speaker 8 (17:42):
You know, this actually shocks me that it actually landed
in their favor, partially because do you understand tory like
middle of West Black, like world of the worst neighborhoods Chicago.
You know how many motherfuckers I've seen you ripped out
a car, our houses off, seen raided, motherfucker's getting fucked up,

(18:03):
kids screaming like, no explanation, Cops drive off. You'll never
hit from them, We get just gone. It doesn't matter
if it was wrong house, wrong person. They never gave
a fuck. So this is actually quite shocking to me.
It's funny because immunity is like their way of neglecting accountability.
It's their way of saying you don't matter enough.

Speaker 3 (18:25):
For us to care about how we hurt you. And
that's amazing to me.

Speaker 8 (18:29):
They're they're traumatizing black people or people in general, and
they just getting away with it. So this is actually
super super shocking for me, and I'm surprised to see
it swinging that way. But we gotta understand, one rock
to hit a giant wall that still exists is not
going to tear it down so that there's a lot
more work to be done.

Speaker 5 (18:49):
Doc, your brother has immunity when he's doing things. If
he should make a mistake, God forbid, then he is protected.

Speaker 4 (18:59):
I don't think that's right.

Speaker 6 (19:02):
Well, I don't think it's right either. I think that
if he makes a mistake and he was.

Speaker 7 (19:10):
Under the right intent, which is what qualified immunity says.
The reason why it's so hard for folks to fight
against qualified immunity because you have to actually prove that
the officer knew.

Speaker 6 (19:20):
That they were breaking the law when they broke the law.
How on the fuck do you prove that?

Speaker 7 (19:25):
Okay, that's very challenge. You got to have a hell
of a counsel and a team to prove that.

Speaker 6 (19:30):
But I'm with you.

Speaker 7 (19:31):
If my brother does something that is intentionally a crime,
especially if it has to do with murder, right we're
talking about breaking to someone's home. We're talking about George
Floyd Brandon Taylor's home, then yeah, I think that my brother,
if he does the crime, brother or not, he should
do the time. However, I do think that there needs
to be by laws, or there needs to be specifications

(19:53):
that go within the qualified immunity within the sovereign because
I do believe that law enforcement deserves to be protected.
They are risking their life every day. And maybe I
have more compassion because my brother and my uncle who's
a retired schaf of my brother being a fourteen year
law enforcement. But I also do hundred percent believe that

(20:14):
us as citizens also need to be protected when law
enforcement takes law in to their own hands and does
something that is out of enforcing the law. They're there
to enforce us, not to uh to to you know,
brutalize us, or to beat us, or to break the
laws on their own.

Speaker 6 (20:30):
So I think there needs to be accountability on both sides.

Speaker 7 (20:32):
I think with with this issue, I don't think that
these folks are going to be able to just meet
sue you're talking about in Georgia. Georgia is one of
those one of those those states where everything gets They
don't even Georgia doesn't even provide evidence to private though
it should be, absolutely it should be. It should be,

(20:54):
But they're protected at the federal and the state level.
As as Judge Lauren just said, qualify immunity is our
own state, but then sovereign is totally state. So there's
a gridlock there, and then in the police bylaws, it
also protects them not only with qualified community, but their
by laws of law enforcement also has a secondary layer
of protection for them. So technically they can do whatever

(21:14):
they need to do and they're not hold liable. And
I'll land on this. Even if they are held liable
in the sense that they get fired from that police juridiction,
guess what all they have to do is go get
hired in a whole of the juridiction. So where's a
protection at It doesn't matter if you put into complaint,
there's a lawsuit. They can just go get hired somewhere
else and they'll get their retirement. They're still able to

(21:34):
have employment and do the same damn act to a
different community that looks.

Speaker 1 (21:38):
Just like us.

Speaker 5 (21:39):
You're absolutely right that officers are able to move around
from station, from precinct to precinct despite their record. The
immunity to me feels very frightening and over empowering for
them when they are quite often the most violent members
of our community. As I move around Brooklyn and New

(22:01):
York City, I am far more afraid of the NYPD
than whatever criminals still exist in this city. And our
crime rate and the LA crime rate and most big
cities crime rates is way down versus ten twenty thirty
forty years ago. So we are in safer big cities.
And I am feeling for myself for my children that
I am more worried about the police, and when they
come with community for their actions, I am even more

(22:24):
afraid of them. That is the element that we need
to have safer communities, the police to be held accountable
for what they do.

Speaker 7 (22:33):
And which is priming is community policing. We don't have
community policing anymore. We just have police offers that come in.
They enforce the law, and they also take advantage of
their authority. Community policing means we know our officers who
are policing our communities. We know them by name, we
can say hello to them. We're not just only engaging
with them when we're calling nine one one. What happens

(22:54):
to being at the stoplight and saying hey to the
officer that you always see.

Speaker 6 (22:58):
Police a community.

Speaker 7 (22:59):
What happens to being at the park is seeing police
presence and the kids, No, that's officer you know williams
our officer Brook.

Speaker 5 (23:05):
Yeah, I don't, I don't even understand where this mindset
of officer William No. Never don't speak to the police.
Do not talk to them, do not say hello to them.
They are not here for you to protect you. They
are here, especially if you're a black or brown person,
they are here to arrest you. They have to make
a certain number of arrests per shift or they're not
doing their job. It's not about safety, it's about creating

(23:28):
money for the department.

Speaker 4 (23:29):
And for the state. So don't speak to them.

Speaker 5 (23:32):
If I tell my kids if they are on the
sidewalk with you across the street, because I don't want
to be anywhere near the police. I don't want to
be talking to them. I don't be saying hi to them.
I don't want to know them. You're not part of
our community. You made a decision to be blue. You
are against us. So you stay over there and we'll
be over here.

Speaker 1 (23:48):
And that's how most people feel. That's of reality, and
it's because of the way it is functioned over time,
and of course the inception with the police starting because
of you know, people trying to slave, capt trying to
catch the enslaved. I mean that's the historical context, and
it hasn't changed much.

Speaker 2 (24:05):
But to doctor.

Speaker 1 (24:06):
Bryan's point, if we do want change, that's what's going
to have to happen. There's going to have to be
goodwill from that side poured into the community. But it
doesn't help when you see ice.

Speaker 2 (24:17):
Running around with.

Speaker 1 (24:20):
Looking like they cowboys and like we used to play
when we were kids with the thing up here and
looking crazy. And I'll say this as well as as
a mother of a black son, it is problematic to
me that if he was in trouble, I would think
twice right to say to him, go find a police officer,

(24:41):
because I'm more worried about how a police officer would
interpret his running, would interpret his trauma, would interpret write
even his speech whatever it was. I'm more nervous about that.
And last thing I'll say is we have more traction
talking about parents being held responsible for the actions of

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their kids then you do about the police being held
and being able to be accountable for their misconduct.

Speaker 2 (25:11):
There's more traction on that. Then we get on dealing
with this qualified immunity issue.

Speaker 5 (25:17):
Let's move on to our maiden topic because I love
the conversation we just have, but the main topic, what
happens what do we do if the lights go out
for good? What would you do if the grid went
down and all of America was left in the dark.
It could happen. No lights, no power, no internet, just
fear from rolling blackouts to cyber attacks. Our communities, especially

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black and underserved ones, could be hit the hardest if
any of this happens. What does survival look like when
the lights go out, when systems fail and the government
isn't there to help us. We are going to break
down the racial gaps in emergency preparedness, the hidden costs
of being left behind, and what black families can do
to stay ready.

Speaker 4 (26:00):
So what do you do if.

Speaker 5 (26:01):
The grid goes down and all of America is left
in the dark, no lights, no internet, no power, and
no government coming to help us get out of this.
That is a situation that could absolutely happen, and especially
in black and underserved communities, it could be a catastrophe. Dimitri,
let's talk about what you would do and what you

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want to see others do in the black community in
a survival moment like that, when there's no power, there's
no government, and we're sort of.

Speaker 4 (26:30):
Like in a new world order for a moment.

Speaker 8 (26:35):
I think what people got to be first, before you
do anything, you have to be very president of reality.
And in reality, every crisis you've ever seen in our
country is a mirror, right, and every time you look
in that mirror, it's always the same thing is stranded people,
forgotten people, disposable people.

Speaker 3 (26:54):
It's our people, is simply that.

Speaker 8 (26:57):
So the thing about it is knowing you're going to
be on that end of the means you must create
a plan. Like we always laugh at the doomsday you know,
preparers and those who have a plan. But maybe it's
time we all generate a plan. Maybe it's time we
have those weapons in our home we.

Speaker 3 (27:15):
Need to protect ourselves.

Speaker 8 (27:16):
Maybe it's time we have that emergency food stash put
to the side.

Speaker 3 (27:20):
I'm Beyonnest with you. I'm treating this shit like bird box.

Speaker 8 (27:23):
I'm treating this shit like my life is on the line,
because at every point in turn it all becomes your enemy.

Speaker 3 (27:29):
You ever seek the purge like when.

Speaker 8 (27:31):
Shit get crazy, Shit get crazy, And I'm treating it
like everything I have is about protecting me.

Speaker 3 (27:38):
This five year old little boy and every family member
surrounded it.

Speaker 4 (27:41):
Judge, this isn't fear mongering. This is real talk, This
couldn't happen. We see these natural disasters, you know, we
know the grid could go down like this really could happen.

Speaker 5 (27:53):
Actually, I want to look at the video of the
Northeast power outage of two thousand and three.

Speaker 4 (27:59):
Can we see that video?

Speaker 5 (28:00):
There's limited communications here in the Tri state area.

Speaker 10 (28:04):
If New York City is not completely paralyzed tonight, the
going couldn't be much slower with no power at rush
hour and the police stretched thin enough at points that
pedestrians are directing traffic. It's massive gridlock.

Speaker 6 (28:16):
Tello, fol's not working, telephon's not working.

Speaker 2 (28:19):
He's let you in the willingness, you know.

Speaker 6 (28:21):
And this is New York City.

Speaker 3 (28:22):
At this point.

Speaker 10 (28:23):
It suspected a power plant problem in Buffalo shut down
power in the New York City metropolitan area and up
the Eastern seaboard into Canada as far west as Detroit.

Speaker 2 (28:32):
They could say the gridlock on all the downtown streets here.

Speaker 10 (28:35):
This is what Cleveland looked like, where power was out
as far as Akron. Hospitals on backup generators, and the
train to the suburbs were down underground. In New York
City in the subways, alarm sound that in people were
pulled with safety.

Speaker 2 (28:50):
The light's not a blinking, the train sad. Then all
of a sudden, all the lights were on.

Speaker 1 (28:54):
They told us it was an ac find and then
they thought this was a dc FEN and they thought
it was a city.

Speaker 2 (28:58):
Why failure. He wasn't start of planning.

Speaker 3 (29:00):
We know we would.

Speaker 10 (29:01):
I'm breathe with the seven million people who use the
subways in New York needing to find another way home.
The streets and sidewalks quickly jammed with people walking across
bridges and out of Manhattan in a state of confusion.

Speaker 8 (29:12):
Just kind of like all these other people just looking around,
don't know what's going on, don't know what happened.

Speaker 5 (29:18):
So there's that scene, and all those scenes look really
scary and really possible in our future. So if when
the grid goes down and we get in those sort
of situations, who's most vulnerable as far as is it
black elders, is it single moms?

Speaker 4 (29:35):
The disabled? Who?

Speaker 1 (29:38):
I would say the elders and the disabled, I really would,
And I think it deals with mobility. It deals with
the fact that many of our elders are in senior
homes where they need medications, they need medical treatment. But
if I'm being very frank, you know, Black people know
how to survive.

Speaker 2 (29:59):
We just really ready for this.

Speaker 1 (30:01):
We're not ready for it because our daily lives of
surviving each and every day right takes up the bulk
of our.

Speaker 2 (30:11):
Attention and intentions.

Speaker 1 (30:13):
Right, just literally getting food to feed our families, getting
back and forth to work. And I think when there
are disasters like this, we aren't ready. I have to
stop myself, right. And my late father used to be
big on provisions. That was his thing.

Speaker 2 (30:29):
If it was gonna be a hard rain.

Speaker 1 (30:30):
You my daddy's old school born in the nineteen thirties,
you know he ready, baby, you got some provisions. And
we used to laugh at him. But now I know
now that he's gone. When they start talking about this, I.

Speaker 2 (30:42):
Got it all. I got solar powered charging, I got
the solar lights, I got gas mac all of it.

Speaker 1 (30:51):
I got the big water cans. I have month to
month ordered myself another layer. People laugh when they come
in my garage, like, are you crazy?

Speaker 2 (31:01):
No, I'm not.

Speaker 1 (31:01):
I'm ready, y'all gonna be coming.

Speaker 3 (31:04):
To my house.

Speaker 1 (31:07):
I'll come to my house and getting all the things
that people laugh at me. How I got the old
school canoprahs and stuff.

Speaker 2 (31:13):
I got an electric one, honey, but I still got
that one with the clink, and you're gonna roll that
thing and you're gonna get you some food.

Speaker 1 (31:19):
And so I think we have to begin to think
about those things. And while we are into daily survival,
we have to think about the big picture and we
have to be ready because we saw look at Hurricane Katrina.
We saw our people literally, I mean floating through waters
on tops of roofs. But it's because we don't have resources.

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And if we do have resources, we don't know where
they are and what they are, and we need to
educate ourselves.

Speaker 5 (31:48):
Doc, I want to call up one more piece of
video that about the snow bagedding in Atlanta, just to
point out the notion that a lot of black people
are not ready, the way that Judge Lake says she's ready.
I know I'm not ready. If it happened tomorrow or tonight,
I'm not ready. I know some black people are ready.
Let's see the Snowmageddon video. Talk about what we ought

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to be prepared for.

Speaker 11 (32:12):
Stranded thousands bumper to bumper, hour after hour on roads,
so slippery cars and trucks could not get traction. Some
people spent the night in supermarkets, and kids slept overnight
on the floors of their schools.

Speaker 12 (32:29):
Oh my god, State Road four hundred north of Atlanta
looked and sounded like this last night.

Speaker 4 (32:37):
By dawn, nothing had changed.

Speaker 12 (32:39):
Traffic was frozen on all three of Atlanta's major highways.

Speaker 5 (32:42):
Doc That sort of snowmageddon could have a catastrophic impact
on a lot of black families.

Speaker 7 (32:49):
Yeah, and we're talking about snowmageddon right in twenty thirteen.
We're talking about what happens when the grid goes down.
First of all, you have families in the inner City
that are in crisis, and the grid is going down
every fucking day without any of the videos and pictures
that are great to show when it comes to crisis.

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But we have these folks in inner city that are underserved.
Hold on, they call nine one one, the police takes hours.

Speaker 6 (33:16):
To get there. They are already under resourced and underserved.
I went from the hood.

Speaker 7 (33:21):
I always say to the heels. I'm in the heels
where we have the sheriff department. And guess what we
pay for the sheriff's department. So when we call them
they're here in ten minutes, and.

Speaker 6 (33:30):
It's less of us. Our crime rate is low, our
school system is the best.

Speaker 7 (33:35):
But when I was in the inner city and called
nine one one to the LAPD that was paid by
the city and not by the homeowners, Okay, it took
hours for them to get there.

Speaker 6 (33:44):
We would call nine one one over and over again.

Speaker 7 (33:46):
At that point, our crisis had turned into something that
was almost undoable.

Speaker 6 (33:51):
So when we're talking about are we ready, are.

Speaker 7 (33:53):
We prepared and our black folks, you know, prepared for
this when the grid goes down, I think every day
we have grids that are going down in certain places,
and we are still underserved and underprivileged.

Speaker 6 (34:04):
That is a problem. To judge Lake's point, I too.

Speaker 7 (34:08):
Have water and a generator and food and all these
things in my garage.

Speaker 3 (34:12):
I do.

Speaker 6 (34:12):
And we also have a basement. Come on, baby, come
on down.

Speaker 7 (34:15):
We also have a basement, and we have a family
meeting where my brother, my mother, and my cousin.

Speaker 6 (34:20):
Everybody in the house knows.

Speaker 7 (34:21):
There's a cold word that we text, or there's a
cold word that we say, and if we say that
one word, we know where to meet, We know where
to go, and we know where all the pistols are
in this house, and so we're to be prepared for that.
But what kills me is I can't take the word
because if you come in this house, all right, it's
gonna be your you don't get a shot. But I
want to land on this. What breaks my heart and

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makes me upset is we talk about these big crisis
right like COVID nineteen was a crisis that happened globally.
We talk about a crisis that happens like the snowmaged
and the Hurricane Katrina.

Speaker 6 (34:53):
But those are momentarily crisis.

Speaker 7 (34:56):
We forget to talk about and address the crisis that
happen again every single day in the inner city, where
people are under certain underprivileged, and they don't get access
to paramedids, they are not getting access to the police
coming and showing up, and they are having to take
matters in their own hands. Every single day there's a
crisis in one of our black and brown communities. And
it may look like a Hurricane Katrina is bigger to

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us because we're looking at it on TV. But for them,
that is their Hurricane Katrina. For them, that is their Snowmageddon.
So we have to do better on a daily level
and not just look at it like when the grid
goes down, what do we do. The grid is going
down right now while we're filming this in somebody's neighborhood
and on somebody's blocking in somebody's community.

Speaker 6 (35:34):
We got to address that issue, Demitri.

Speaker 8 (35:36):
You know, looking at this whole snowmagetic thing, it's funny
to me because you know, I'm from Chicott, I'm from
Scott This is we receive snow all the time. This
was like two inches of snow in Atlanta, like two inches,
and imagine two inches in your whole fucking city collapse
Like imagine Seneo so in school and he never come
home because he's sleeping on the cafeteria flow with no food,

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no black you know, nothing, like this is crazy. But
to me, it's not just about snow. This is this
is the government not moving quick enough.

Speaker 3 (36:09):
Like this has more to do with the structure of
what we should have been prepared for that we were not.

Speaker 8 (36:14):
And you see how everything around it collapsed, like it's crazy.

Speaker 3 (36:17):
Motherfuckers were stuck on us on the highway for twenty
four hours. People were sleeping in their cars. But you
ain't have no roles. That was pre sulted.

Speaker 8 (36:27):
You ain't have no like there was no preparation on
the governments, you know.

Speaker 3 (36:31):
I think that's the bigger problem.

Speaker 5 (36:33):
I want to look at this snowmaged in video and
just point out just how hard some of these moments
can be for people, for black people and specific Let's
look at that video.

Speaker 3 (36:45):
Real quick.

Speaker 12 (36:46):
Flurries began before noon yesterday. I soon followed. Schools, businesses,
and government offices closed early and at nearly the same time.
In less than an hour, traffic went from twenty miles
an hour to a standstill. Salt and sand trucks could
not get through to treat the roads. In Fulton County,
ninety nine school buses filled with kids were still on

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the road at midnight. At least two thousand other students
spent the night at school.

Speaker 5 (37:13):
To be you, that is so sad that all those
people had to go through that incredible disruption. I'm pleased
that some of the institutions, like the schools, were able
to stay open and provide a place for children to sleep,
you know, long after school hours. And I imagine there's
some other ways that the community was able to come together.

(37:34):
Because I think that we expect the purge to happen
in these sort of situations, and I think inherently, deep
down most people are good, and most people would say
we need to create a community. And somebody like Lauren
would have all this stuff and would say, I will
share my water with the other people around me, right,

(37:57):
I will share my knowledge and my flashlight and my
power in my space, because they would understand we got
to come together. You can't be selfish in these situations. Now,
I imagine some people will be selfish, but Dmitri, I
think most people will want to come together to help other,
their neighbors.

Speaker 8 (38:14):
You know, that's most people. I think was to you
have to considering this point. If it wasn't a day thing,
if this is a weak thing, a month thing, something
they never found answer for.

Speaker 3 (38:28):
This shit turns into the Hunger Games toy.

Speaker 8 (38:30):
I don't know if you've ever been, you know, starving
with nothing in your stomach.

Speaker 3 (38:34):
But all morals go out the window.

Speaker 8 (38:36):
That's where crime gets high and people lose sense of
like helping the next because they're only concerned about themselves.
So I think that plan or lack of a plan
by the government not knowing when to evacuate schools, or
how to evacuate schools, or how.

Speaker 3 (38:51):
To get people out the highway. If this was something that.

Speaker 8 (38:53):
Lasted longer, which we're talking on a global scale, and
it's actually having like a blackout or something like that,
this could be crazy, Lauren.

Speaker 5 (39:03):
You know a lot of people in your community and
other communities have guns, and in a situation like that,
we might start to see some hunger Games type activity.

Speaker 4 (39:14):
We might start to see some Sorge type stuff.

Speaker 5 (39:17):
You know, you might start to see people fighting in
grocery stores over basic things and using their guns or
their force. You might start to see that how do
you how do you prevent lawlessness when you have a
situation like that and people are fighting for resources and they're.

Speaker 4 (39:34):
Hungry, and.

Speaker 1 (39:36):
I mean, at that point, you don't lawlessness is exactly
what you said. It is going to be nearly impossible
to continue to, you know, apply the rule of law
when people's survival is in state.

Speaker 2 (39:48):
It's hard.

Speaker 1 (39:49):
I mean, look, look, I always think about The Walking Dead,
remember that show, how everybody start acting. I mean, that
is pretty much what life would be like in the
sense that people are and look.

Speaker 2 (40:00):
Think about you know, when you think about a laws.

Speaker 1 (40:03):
A lot of laws are based upon what the reasonable
person in that circumstance would feel or interpret a threat
of force or a threat of harm. To be well,
when you're in a blackout and the grid goes out
and you ain't eight in five days and your baby starving,
or your your mother or grandmother is sick, now are
you a reasonable person?

Speaker 5 (40:24):
Now?

Speaker 2 (40:24):
What are we talking about?

Speaker 1 (40:25):
A reasonable person in a desperate situation. It really is
impossible to think about. And I think this too as
you grow overthinking, I was saying to myself, you know,
I think a lot of us aren't prepared because it's
what we don't want to think about, right. We don't
want to think about it happening, so we don't get prepared.
It's just like death right. Many of us don't have

(40:48):
wills and we don't have a state planning and we
don't have that planned out because we hate to think
about dying. And I think that's one of the things
we have to do better about educating our community about
is about It's not about whether you want it to
happen or not. It's the fact that if it does,
when it does in terms of death, that you're ready
in some way, or to doctor Bryant's point, you at

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least have community structure, right, a community there understanding where
do I go for this?

Speaker 2 (41:17):
Okay, how do I go for this?

Speaker 1 (41:18):
And then our churches also have to show up, because
I remember, was it Texas?

Speaker 2 (41:23):
When was it? The tornado? Hurricanes?

Speaker 1 (41:25):
And one of them churches, Honey, one of them the
churches call it.

Speaker 6 (41:30):
We don't call it, Joe Olstein, we're gonna call it.

Speaker 2 (41:34):
Had you remember? But I knew it happened because I
remember the doors was locked, honey to the church. I mean, we're.

Speaker 4 (41:42):
Supposed to do what a thunk? It ain't the church
supposed to be there for the go ahead?

Speaker 3 (41:49):
Doc?

Speaker 7 (41:50):
In the Laura's house, I was going to say, like
I've said many times on True Talks, is you know
the best and quickest way to inflate and increase crime.
It's to deprive people of the resources. I say that
all the time. You want people to be upset, you
want them to be angry. Do what you do to
us every day. Put us in communities where we have
no down resources, where all we have is liquor stores.

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Were limited to the things that can give us a
great quality of life, which a great quality of life
is a human right in my opinion.

Speaker 6 (42:20):
Take for example, COVID nineteen.

Speaker 7 (42:22):
When we're talking about the purge, COVID nineteen was the
closest thing to a purge that we.

Speaker 6 (42:26):
Had everything shut down.

Speaker 7 (42:28):
And this is what happened in COVID nineteen, testing centers
were only available in the upper class white communities. You
know how, I know that's nationwide because myself, the Mayor Roblest,
which is the mayor of Carson at that time, we
we built and put not built, but we put the
very first testing center in the city of Carson at
the Carson Convention Center, in a black and brown community,

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the very first COVID nineteen testing center in the nation.
And people were going crazy. We were on every news
station talking about it. Mask were not available to the
black and brown inner city communities. When they became available,
it's because organizations INAACP, Black Lives Matter, local organizations started
to get donations and started to get these masks and
bring them into the inner city. Okay, the only thing

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they want to give to us first was the COVID
nineteen shots.

Speaker 6 (43:18):
Why we don't.

Speaker 7 (43:19):
That's a whole other episode to talk about that. But
My point is, when we had the purge COVID nineteen,
why do.

Speaker 6 (43:25):
We have no access? Why do we have no resources?
How can we didn't even have testing centers to see
do we have it? How do do we have to quarantine?

Speaker 7 (43:33):
It was only in the wealthy, white freaking neighborhoods until
myself and the mayor put the very first one and
then which we have to do, take leadership. Every other
community start to replicate our blueprint, which I'm glad they did,
but there was no fucking testing center for us in
our inner city and our in our community.

Speaker 5 (43:51):
I appreciate your leadership in that situation, and you need
folks who are going to be able to say, I'm
going to do something bigger than for myself.

Speaker 4 (44:01):
I'm gonna do something for my community. Sometimes we don't
have that. I want to run another.

Speaker 5 (44:08):
Video that shows people dealing with a crazy situation and
how when there wasn't leadership things went a little left.

Speaker 4 (44:17):
Let's roll the video.

Speaker 13 (44:21):
Debris feels part of the street after a car slams
into the side of an suv. The crash happened in
the middle of the intersection at Highway sixty seven and
Powway wrote the traffic lights had no power. Moments after
the crash, Good Samaritans run through the busy traffic to
assist and call nine to one to one.

Speaker 14 (44:39):
A lot of these people have been coming in this
intersection for thirty plus years, and however long there's been
lights here. They have an expectation that when they get
here it's going to be smooth flow traffic. So when
the lights go out, yeah, I mean, I think it's
a hazard.

Speaker 13 (44:52):
Emergency crews were on the scene in less than ten minutes.
Early Thursday morning. Traffic backed up for about half a mile,
many drivers confused on their turn to go. Deputy Nicholas
McGregor was out directing traffic just as the morning rush started.

Speaker 14 (45:08):
To pick up in the morning, when it's super dark
out here and people are just waking up.

Speaker 13 (45:12):
About two miles south, signs posted alerting drivers of the outage.
This is a look at Scriptspowway, Parkway and Highway sixty
seven after the power was shut off at the intersection
Wednesday night.

Speaker 14 (45:24):
There's a collision there due to confusion with the lights
being out.

Speaker 13 (45:27):
A car slammed into the back of a truck before
bursting into flames. No one was hurt, but hours later,
traffic continues to back up. Following the crash, The Sheriff's
department says there's only about two hours of battery life
on the red flashers. After the power goes out. They
try to put as much signage out for drivers, but
drivers should continue to remain cautious.

Speaker 5 (45:50):
Dimidri, that's an example of what happens when some of
the basic things that we expect in society disappear. And
you see there are a lot of people struggling to adjust.
But you also saw people stepping up and saying I
will direct traffic.

Speaker 4 (46:04):
I'm a regular citizen and the cops are not here,
I will provide order.

Speaker 5 (46:09):
And I think when people are shocked, they're going to
respond in a bunch of different ways. But as soon
as the people realize, oh, this is our normal now,
that they will start to come together and leaders will
start to emerge and say here's.

Speaker 4 (46:21):
The things we do.

Speaker 5 (46:22):
I believe, deep down, and I keep going back to this,
that our better angels will come out in a crazy
situation like that, and most people will not behave in
horrible ways. Some people will, but most people will. We
if we I think, if you took us and just
dropped us in a whole new situation. We would create
a civilization. We would not just kill each other till

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there's one person left.

Speaker 8 (46:44):
What do you think, Well, to a degree, I'm gonna agree.
I'll agree with you. But I believe it's changes per location.
I believe it changes per what part of the nation.
You're looking at us in a hood, Nah, ain't no
leaders coming to the rise. They I don't see it
happening the leader. You listen, you, I love my hood,

(47:09):
But this little baby I gotta protect. It's far more
important than me navigating traffic. I gotta make sure this's
look key and get you. That's just me personally. But
the thing about it is, I think we're looking at
something so minuscule compared to something so massive. That's a
traffic light going out, and you see how people react
in what happens when nine to one one does not
answer the phone? Will happened if there's no one to

(47:29):
contact when your when life is in danger, that's a
bigger problem. And yes, eventually we can cultivate something where
leaders step to the forefront, but in times like that,
it may be dire need to where you may never
get a leader because everything was burned.

Speaker 3 (47:48):
Down already, Lauren.

Speaker 5 (47:49):
We have government quite often unable to respond effectively in
these situations with the speed local and state and federal,
the the speed that the community needs before it.

Speaker 4 (48:02):
Sort of starts to fall apart.

Speaker 5 (48:03):
We have hospitals will get overwhelmed, first responders will be overwhelmed.
I mean like in a major catastrophe like this, like
we're talking about, you know, something happens in Puerto Rico
and we have this asshole go down there and throat
just it's so disrespectful. This whole photograph triggers be because
he's so disrespectful to these people. But in situations where
black and brown people are put in trouble and the

(48:24):
government is not coming for them, you're.

Speaker 4 (48:26):
Already halfway there. What do black people need to have
prepared in.

Speaker 5 (48:32):
Case something like this happened, something like what happened to
these folks in Puerto Rico, or what happened with the
with any of these situations where normal life is no
longer possible, we.

Speaker 1 (48:43):
Need to have information and we need to have installations
right information meaning we need to have a way that
we are informed.

Speaker 2 (48:52):
Do you even know where you'd go.

Speaker 1 (48:54):
If this happened, all the lights went off in the house.
You want to get information? Where's church? Where are you
gonna go to a certain leader's house? As Demiti said,
who gonna be the leader?

Speaker 3 (49:05):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (49:06):
We already don't trust the government as it is. Now
when this happens, are we trusting anybody?

Speaker 2 (49:11):
Who are we gonna trust? And more importantly, how are
we getting information?

Speaker 1 (49:15):
And gonna be no? Social media is not who printing
the paper? When I mean how does this happen? I
don't think we can really wrap our minds around it.
So I say information and installation. Information mean get informed
now about what will what.

Speaker 2 (49:32):
Will you be lacking?

Speaker 1 (49:33):
I think COVID did teach us some things, but I
think in many ways we've been so busy about trying
to get back to the business as usual we've forgotten
some of the lessons that we learned there when there
really was just nothing to do. But we still had electricity.

Speaker 2 (49:49):
So we right.

Speaker 1 (49:51):
And then when I say installations, I mean install some plans.
You know, you might need some real maps. I go
back to my daddy again. He used to always go
to the Triple A and get.

Speaker 2 (50:01):
Him a map.

Speaker 12 (50:02):
And are.

Speaker 1 (50:05):
Just put it on the GPS that no, I got
to get me a map, and he taught my son
to read a map. And I think, now, boy, these
things are valuable that you have to be able to
do those basics. He used to have a saying minimize
the maximum and to maximize the minimum, meaning I think

(50:26):
as a culture.

Speaker 2 (50:27):
We often maximize.

Speaker 1 (50:30):
Really what we should minimize, which is where we go
and what we got on, who's hot, who's not, who's that.
We need to minimize the talk about all that, considering
what we're what we're facing. We need to maximize the
basics and get back to learning about that.

Speaker 5 (50:46):
Doc You, you and your family are super prepared. I'm
super inspired by that and curious about that. Obviously, you
would tell folks you got to have water, to have
some food, You got to have a gun to protect
your what, you got to have a backup power source.
What are some of the other things that you think
are essential for black people to have if one of

(51:09):
these situations breaks out?

Speaker 6 (51:10):
Absolutely?

Speaker 7 (51:10):
I also think that black people need to have a
plan of action when this happens.

Speaker 6 (51:14):
Where are we as a family meeting? If you are
part of a church.

Speaker 7 (51:18):
And you are a member and you tied. You are
tied in to a church that should be a resource
for you. So if you are a family who's in
an apartment or a home that maybe the crisis is
hit that home, does the church that you are a
member to do? They say, Look, if crisis happens, our
doors are open even at the pastor and here somebody
can get here.

Speaker 6 (51:37):
Because this is.

Speaker 7 (51:38):
Where local organizations and churches come together. With churches A
five or one C three, they are an organization to
be preventative, not intervenative, because see, by time we're trying
to be intervene, it's too fucking late.

Speaker 6 (51:50):
Most of the time.

Speaker 7 (51:51):
I know, as being a therapist for so many years
and now a psychology expert still in private practice, when
foes come to me because they're trying to intervate, it's
usually too late. But certain things need to be a lifestyle,
a plan of action when crisis happens, how do we
prevent this?

Speaker 6 (52:07):
Who's our go to church?

Speaker 7 (52:08):
What organization says they have a location, what organization has resources?
Where's your local food bank? Where's your local hospital? What
hospital is the one that's county that's maybe always too
a crowded.

Speaker 6 (52:18):
We may have to drive a little further. But this
hospital usually has folks that are available.

Speaker 7 (52:22):
How do we do this? Who is your local phone numbers?
Who do you call if emergency goes off? Are we
meeting on the kona, on the block, or the neighborhood
or on the front? Also, last, what we don't do anymore?
Do you know your neighbors? Why are we not having
community with our neighbors. When I first moved to my
house four or five years ago, I went They thought
I was crazy, and I don't care because I'm in
a very predominant white neighborhood, very Republican. I went door

(52:46):
to door do Torre, Dimitri and Lauren. I went door
to door, Hi, I'm doctor Shyan Ryan. I'm your neighbor.
They were like, hi, I said, how long have you
been living here? One said thirty years, which made me
for happy. One set twenty five.

Speaker 6 (53:00):
What do you do?

Speaker 7 (53:00):
She's like, I'm a school psychologist. Oh my god, I'm
on the field psychology too. They thought, oh, it's crazy.
One late lady just spoke to me through her ren camera.

Speaker 6 (53:06):
I don't care. I want to know who I'm living
next to.

Speaker 2 (53:09):
Who are you?

Speaker 7 (53:10):
And I even told my neighbors. If anything happens, I'm
your neighbor. I'm right there, and so my.

Speaker 6 (53:14):
Neighbor will come over. Nothing happened at her crisis. What
she wants to pick my fruit trees? But I still
was neighboring. I said, girl, go in and pick the
fruit trees, no problem. She was trying to be nosy,
you know, white people. But I'm back.

Speaker 7 (53:22):
But what I'm saying is I let her on the
property to pick my damn for your nosy. But I
want to say, I have a church next to me
as well, and they're Jehovah Witness, different different denomination than me.
But guess what I talked to the pastor. I talked
to the church throws. I told them, I'm next door.
If you need me, if we need you, can we
come next door. Why are we not neighboring and loving
my neighbor and communing with our people so we know

(53:44):
where exactly where folks are, where we can go, and
offering our refue our home as a refuge, and our
resources to our neighbors as well.

Speaker 6 (53:51):
That's what community is.

Speaker 4 (53:52):
I appreciate that. I love that. That is what community is.
To be treated.

Speaker 5 (53:56):
What other ideas, what other advice do you have for
black folks who are listening to this, who're saying, well,
what do I need to have h because they may
run into a situation where you know, the local Walmart
is not able to serve them, or the local uh
piggly Wiggily is not able to take care of.

Speaker 4 (54:16):
Them because you know the grit has gone down or
what have you.

Speaker 3 (54:19):
Piggly Wiggily is crazy, that's first off.

Speaker 8 (54:22):
But like to doctor Brothers, build a network, a survival network.
Now just your following because you're gonna have a Wi
Fi to get on the internet. Build up with your
phone book. You got to learn to memorize some numbers.
I still know my grandma house phone number since from
when I was in kindergarten, same house phone. Build up
your network. The phone may not even work, you know
what I'm saying. It all depends on the crisis we're

(54:42):
living in. But stock on, stock up, stock up on
everything you can from rice to beans, canned goods to water,
flashlight batteries, every single thing you can get your hands
on that your grandma and grandaddy used to use back
in the day is very valuable.

Speaker 3 (54:57):
Right now, a map, I'm to my everything.

Speaker 8 (54:59):
Learn how to patch wound, learn how to cook from
a out of gas, like learn how to purify water.
It's things you have to do because this ain't just YouTube.
You're not gonna be able to look up how to
do it on YouTube. When the time comes, you gonna
need to know right then and there. And like I
spoke about earlier, I got that little five year old boy.

Speaker 3 (55:16):
I want to protect. That comes first. I will secure
my family, Then I will secure my block. After you
make sure your family.

Speaker 8 (55:24):
Will safe, look outward, help other people, Help those people
in your neighborhoods. There's people who are already homeless, so
imagine how further this sets them back when you have
nothing to give to the people you've been helping every day.

Speaker 3 (55:36):
And the last thing I could tell you is stay calm.

Speaker 8 (55:39):
Do not turn into savages, because that will only further
the problem. Stay calm, Protect yourself, for father's down. Just
took my father to the gun range the other day.
Sharpen up your skills, protect your family, protect yourself because
you never.

Speaker 3 (55:54):
Know what goppened.

Speaker 5 (55:55):
No, that's a really beautiful point. And you know, I
don't know what I would say to this good brother
if I was talking to him. He probably could tell
me some things, but I just want him or me
or us. If we get in these situations, these these
almost apocalyptic situations, the mindset has to be right that
we are in a community. We have to be there

(56:17):
for everyone in our community. We have to be willing
and able to deal with deprivation. And I understand these
folks probably don't have that much, but when the hurricane
comes and wrex their community, they have even less.

Speaker 4 (56:29):
And we have to be able to deal with the
idea of like, Okay.

Speaker 5 (56:32):
Things are gonna super suck for a while, but we're
gonna pull through this. There will be another side, there
will be light at the end of the tunnel. I
will take care of my children, my elders, my wife,
my husband, whoever, and get everybody through this. Because if
we deal with our emotions, we can deal with the
deprivation longer. We can deal with harder things if we're
not emotionally eating ourselves up. So I just hope that

(56:55):
we can make a promise that God forbid we get
into a situation like this, we would tell ourselves I'm gonna.

Speaker 4 (57:01):
Be good to my neighbors. I'm gonna make community with
my neighbors.

Speaker 5 (57:03):
I'm gonna share with my neighbors and they will share
with me, and together as a community, we will get
out of this. But I pray that none of you
have to use this advice, but I think it is
excellent advice to have because there's a chance that we can.

Speaker 7 (57:19):
Yeah, and lastly, really quick, the moral support that comes
with having community, with having family, with having somebody you
can call.

Speaker 6 (57:26):
I think that we don't put enough value on that.

Speaker 7 (57:28):
Of course, you know external resources are needed, but you know,
me being able to call my sister Lauren and have
a conversation about a crisis, that moral support gets people
a lot further than we tend to let be had.
Knowing that my neighbor got my back. I know Maria's name,
I know I can knock on this door, I can
do this, They know me. There's familiarity, there's comfort there

(57:50):
that plays a big role in how you survive your crisis.
It really does. People alone will wither even with resources.
Imagine how they will with or without the resources and
the moral support of their people and communia family.

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I think that's really well said.

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