NBA YOUNGBOY PARDON, DIDDY SHOCKING SECRETS, SUGE KNIGHTS REVENGE & PASSPORT BRO

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
Yeah, what the trads.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
We have. We have to make it like Starday Live
at the At the end of the inter true talk starts.

Speaker 3 (00:10):
Now ready, O my god, day from.

Speaker 2 (00:16):
LA when you did the pageant? What was your talent?

Speaker 3 (00:23):
I sang?

Speaker 4 (00:24):
I want?

Speaker 3 (00:24):
Actually?

Speaker 2 (00:25):
What did you sing?

Speaker 1 (00:26):
You?

Speaker 3 (00:26):
Guys?

Speaker 2 (00:26):
Real quick?

Speaker 1 (00:27):
Jack? Is a video in Jack? What's your talent?

Speaker 2 (00:32):
Jack? Is a video in Hi. I'm uploading it to
the proper folder literally right now. Sorry, I ask so
many folders up and I couldn't get to the meat button.

Speaker 3 (00:41):
Thank you.

Speaker 4 (00:43):
I want me to sing, I'll sing right now.

Speaker 2 (00:45):
What did you sing?

Speaker 3 (00:46):
A Whitney Houston song?

Speaker 2 (00:48):
Which one?

Speaker 3 (00:49):
I have nothing.

Speaker 1 (00:53):
Now right now?

Speaker 3 (00:57):
Yeah, it's a cross.

Speaker 2 (01:01):
That's a hard one.

Speaker 1 (01:02):
That was my song.

Speaker 3 (01:03):
And that song, yeah, Jennifer Holliday's version of You're Gonna
Love Me Like that was also not Jennifer did that?

Speaker 1 (01:11):
Well.

Speaker 3 (01:11):
I don't do runs. I'm a belter, I'm not really
a runner.

Speaker 2 (01:15):
Okay, okay, but that song is hard.

Speaker 3 (01:18):
It is hard.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
It's hard. We think of that song like, oh my God,
like so you could really.

Speaker 5 (01:23):
Really sing not as much anymore because it's singing as
a muscle and if you don't use it you lose it.
I have a beautiful tone with no control, and you
have pitch.

Speaker 2 (01:36):
You have perfect pitch.

Speaker 3 (01:37):
I think I I can't. My ears are pretty bitious.
I won't lie.

Speaker 2 (01:41):
Well. Wow, and still you listen to Sexy Red. Never
you think that you would know better of all people?
All right, the Zedith of female rap ever, and she's
like sexy Red.

Speaker 3 (01:59):
Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (02:01):
Slim thick Carol Mon, I know a little bit.

Speaker 2 (02:04):
Welcome to Truth Talks, word tmit. You won't shut up.
We're bringing your conversations that every generation can take part in.
You may not agree with all of us, but you
will definitely agree with me. Seriously, there's something for everyone
on the show tonight, especially doctor Sarah going in on
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Speaker 4 (02:23):
Let's come. Are you all ready to roll?

Speaker 6 (02:38):
Let y'all.

Speaker 2 (02:41):
Welcome. Truth Tellers are about to get into it because
some in the community are really tripping off their passport.
No connection to what I'm about to say next to
meetre Welcome to the show.

Speaker 4 (02:52):
It's a pleasure to thank you for having me.

Speaker 6 (02:54):
Some people say I talk too much, some people say
they like the voice, So I'm gonna take it.

Speaker 4 (02:58):
How I can get it, you know.

Speaker 2 (02:58):
I do like the voice. I respect the boy speaking
of passports. Sarah is here fresh from Canadia.

Speaker 5 (03:06):
Guys, super excited, blessed, honor to be here. I'm actually
in LA today, so thanks for joining me.

Speaker 2 (03:13):
And of course doctor Shy and Brian is here. Wouldn't
be true talks without Shy.

Speaker 6 (03:19):
Y'all.

Speaker 1 (03:19):
What's that my truth? Avengers?

Speaker 7 (03:20):
Y'all?

Speaker 1 (03:21):
Y'all memory from season one?

Speaker 2 (03:22):
Light?

Speaker 1 (03:22):
Y'all asses up, I'm here on season two, I'll be
a little lighter. But that just means a little more
flame on that ass.

Speaker 2 (03:28):
Oh, let's see about that flame on that ass. Let's
get into trending topics. One of the most interesting decisions
in the Diddy case was to not sequester the jury. Sarah.
That means when you take the jury and they stay
in a hotel and they can't talk to their friends
or family and read the newspaper and watch the news,

(03:49):
they're totally blocked off from the world. The judge said,
this jury can go home, which means there will be
around friends and family. They are told explicitly cannot talk
about the case. You cannot read about the case, you
cannot watch dudes, they can't even talk to each other
about the case until they go in the end and deliberate.
But it is impossible for a jury to go home

(04:11):
and not be aware of the conversation that's happening in
the air around them, even though that is forget doctor Bryant.
Do you think that Diddy can get a fair trial
in a world where the jury goes home and they're told,
don't pay attention to everything, but everybody is talking.

Speaker 1 (04:28):
About this, Well, we know one thing they are doing
is paying attention to everything and talking about the case.
I mean, and that's just kind of human nature, right.
Do I think they're being influenced by outside chatter, Absolutely,
one hundred percent. And I don't think that that outside
chatter is going to be something that possibly will work
against him. I think some of the outside chatter might
actually help the brother in the court of law, because
you've got a lot of people that are outside saying

(04:50):
this is a domestic violence case. I don't see any racketeering.
I don't see it being sexual abuse. This is a
woman who you know, consented these things and maybe you
know was I wanted something out of it, and so
she participated in these things. And so because I'm gonna
say this for myself. Just watching the case, you know,
I was like, oh my god. Seeing the videos of
him beat Cassie, I'm like, oh Lord, right, horrible. And

(05:11):
then when I looked on social media, start hearing other
people talk about, well, it's only a domestic violence, it's
not this. Then I start going, wait a minute, let
me look deeper into this thing. So I think the
outside chatter might actually work for him, not against we treat.

Speaker 2 (05:24):
We see a lot some juries go home, they tend
to not get involved, get like, they tend to not
be over influenced by their community. I know it seems
hard to believe, but like a lot of the studies say,
like they tend to respect what the judge says and
not be over influenced. Do you think that it's possible

(05:44):
when the news about Diddy is so loud in every community.

Speaker 6 (05:48):
You know, to be honest with you in all actuality,
In my opinion, I think it's nearly impossible to tell
them not to mingle out, to pay attention to the
chatter when they go home.

Speaker 4 (05:58):
It's all for nothing.

Speaker 6 (06:00):
Just talking at this point, you saying it means nothing,
And I think the thing about it is what bothers
me is that the integrity of the justice system.

Speaker 4 (06:09):
Only ever holds up.

Speaker 6 (06:11):
Well, we're facing in white criminals, when white people are
on trial, when black people, even the rich, don't get
that same we don't get that same isolation, we don't
get that same privilege. And I, frankly, personally, I hate
it for him, Sarah.

Speaker 2 (06:27):
It's a rough situation for him. A lot of community
is like, baby, he's innocent of these things. I mean, like,
if they're hearing folks chatter, they may be get an
ear full of like, it's not really racketeering. I mean,
I think racketeering, but a lot of people in the
community think it's not racketeering. What do you think?

Speaker 3 (06:48):
I just I whether I think it's racketeering or not.

Speaker 5 (06:51):
I don't think they've done a good job of making
it clear that it was, which leaves there's reasonable doubt
that it's not right. And so I do think that
one of the biggest mistakes they made was by not
sequestering these people, because when you look at the bigger
cases in the past where they were sequestered, you know,
you have OJ Simpson that was two hundred and sixty
five days. It's the longest in American history, how long

(07:13):
the jury was sequestered. You have Bill Cosby, you have
Casey Anthony, you have George Zimmerman, you have Derek Chaudren.
So you have all of these people that were sequestered,
and for good reason, because the truth is, regardless of
how much we think, we think for ourselves, we two
even as adults, even for critical thinkers, we're still to
a level impressionable.

Speaker 2 (07:33):
Yeah, but here's what THEIK Sarah, we said, you're the judge,
and you are also thinking about the lives of the jurors.
And so with OJA, twenty eighteen people because it's twelve
jurors and then six alternates put their lives on hold
for almost a year. This trial we knew from the
beginning was going to be two months. So you're asking parents,

(07:56):
workers to say, stop your life for two months. That's
a lot of jerors.

Speaker 3 (08:02):
Yeah, and it's asking them to do it for free
at that.

Speaker 5 (08:04):
But I still think regardless, if if you want to
give a man a fair shot, then the only way
is to make sure that people are relying on their
own thought process and not their partners when they lay
down in the bed or their girlfriends at work or
hearing the water cooler talk right. This has been the
thing that has forced down all of our throats since
it started. I am tired of this case. To be

(08:25):
completely honest, I don't even want to.

Speaker 4 (08:27):
Talk to you.

Speaker 2 (08:28):
So I'm so not tired of this circus. I will
take another eight weeks of this. But I I you know,
you feel like if you're in the courtroom hearing everything,
and you outside the courtroom are not hearing everything at all.
I'm not even listening to you. I'm getting all the information.
I'm seeing these people in real time, understanding how they write.

(08:51):
I mean is because all the things about tone and
body language that reflect how we feel about a human
being is speaking. We sitting outside of the courtroom, out
of the dec We have no idea about any of
that stuff. I just feel like the jury feels like
I know so much more about the situation. You like,
I can't even talk to you. The judge told me
not to talk to you, but I can't even You

(09:11):
know nothing about this compared to me.

Speaker 4 (09:13):
But they watched Truth Talk Story. We've been talking about.

Speaker 2 (09:15):
This for like two weeks. Hell, yeah, brother, let me
tell you about somebody else. Who's probably gonna be watching
Truth Talks very soon. NBA Young Boy because he's home.
Because Trump keeps pardoning black people. He got a presidential
pass like Larry Hoover, and now he's out and about.

(09:38):
I wonder why he's doing this. My girl, Tiffany Cross
was on CNN Abby Philip. She had an idea about
why this is happening. Hold on a second, I can't
find the fucking video.

Speaker 1 (09:54):
Where's the video? Jack?

Speaker 4 (10:09):
As soon as.

Speaker 2 (10:11):
You're right on that one, let me tell you somebody
else who I think is going to be watching Truth
Talks very soon. NB A young boy because Trump gave
him a get out of jail free card. I guess
doctor Brian would say he gave him on a reverse

(10:33):
UDO card and.

Speaker 1 (10:34):
He's out of jail.

Speaker 2 (10:36):
Trump keeps pardoning black People's like the nicest thing he's
done for black people all year. He gave a presidential
path to Larry Hoover, to others. I wonder why. I
have an idea. Roll the clip Laurie, because we fired Jody,
so now it's Laurie.

Speaker 7 (10:53):
NBA Young Boy.

Speaker 8 (10:53):
He's also in the past partner Kodak Black. They're trying
to appeal to black Menay, so is this about that
or is.

Speaker 9 (11:02):
It about their intentions are impure? But I will be
honest with you, I am fine. I'm fine with pardons.
I kind of agree with you, Sir Michael, like if
he's seventy five years old. Yes, because it's impossible when
you think about the two hundred and thirty plus people
who were shipped offshore to a towrture camp. When you
think about this president who breaks the law routinely convicted

(11:22):
of thirty four of felonies right here in New York,
when you think about the number of people we've just
decided in this country that these laws and these rules
are PIXI us the constitution.

Speaker 1 (11:31):
Who cares?

Speaker 9 (11:32):
Who cares about the Emolument's clause?

Speaker 2 (11:34):
Give me this jet?

Speaker 9 (11:34):
Who cares about the fourteenth Amnion? So at this point
we have to ask what is the law? So why
do laws apply to some people and not the other?
So if it's times with Larry Hoover to say, yeah, fine,
the pardon Larry Hoover, but also let's look at all
the other cases instead of caging people like animals who
have been in jail for decades, in prisons for decades,
for a dime bag of marijuana. When I see white

(11:55):
boys walking down my street in a gentrified neighborhood smoking
it freely and openly, you have to under yes, there
is something wrong with our criminal justice system. Respectfully, it
is not as simple as well, if you don't want
to go to jail, don't break the law. That is
spoken from a place of privilege. And if you look
at facts in history and data and statistics in this country, you.

Speaker 1 (12:12):
Will see that there are.

Speaker 9 (12:14):
Many There are so many people.

Speaker 2 (12:18):
There, Dmitri. I cannot express how much I love Tiffany Cross,
who is a friend and a political warrior and always
coming with the noise in the funk. Just like that,
she brought up two issues. I want to decouple them
and talk about one and then the other. Marijuana is second. Right. First,
are these pardons a plea to pull in black voters?

(12:39):
Yes they are. And there is a black parted czar
named Alice Johnson who Trump parted in his first term,
who is the one who is saying, hey, we should
pardon this person. And these are politically chosen pardons to
woo in black voters, right, And I wish I felt
like there was some genuine feeling of like, well, this

(13:00):
this person deserves to be pardoned because something wrong happened
in their case. But no, to me, tre, this is
just if we part an NBA young boy, the negroes
will vote for us. And I hate that whole mindset
and let.

Speaker 6 (13:13):
Me let me feel the older generation and on who
this NBA young boy is, because.

Speaker 2 (13:20):
First of all, I host a show called rap l
nobody needs to tell me, okay, okay, if you want
in here. He would be like, Torrey, what's good? Who's
your friend? So slaw your role bro? This is for
everyone else, mister Torre.

Speaker 6 (13:36):
Allegedly, there's a lot going on with young NBA Young
Boy behind the scenes, who says that he issues these
hits and x y Z and all these other rappers
are popping up keeled. He's in the heat of that controversy.
Allegedly in hip hop, NBA young Boy is the scariest
person you want to deal with. That's that's what they say.
That's what my generation is saying. That's what the kid

(13:57):
is telling me. X y Z blah blah blah. But yes,
all of this is for press release. This is showing
that in order to have mercy in this country, mercy
in America.

Speaker 4 (14:07):
You have to have something for others to get.

Speaker 6 (14:12):
You have to be beneficial for press release, you gotta
be famous, and quite frankly, the way I'm gonna get
the young ones is attack it through music. They love
these rappers. I love these rappers. Let them out of jail.
But like she said, all of these people sitting behind
bars for petty crimes, you could have partnered and you
pick the person.

Speaker 2 (14:31):
Okay, I'll get it. I see, Sarah, do you are you?
Are you comfortable with this sort of there's almost a
bait and switch sort of thing happening when he's like, yeah,
I pardoned and be a young boy. You negroes love him, right?
And I mean yes, And the sifity said, that's great
to get people out of cages. On the other side,
kill DEI kills CRT, kill black history. I mean, like,

(14:56):
you know, you're killing aut medicaid, all things that black
people need. But here's a shiny toy and be a
young boy free.

Speaker 3 (15:04):
Okay.

Speaker 5 (15:04):
So let's rewind and reverse and get some good information
going on here, because we do know that he thanked
the president for pardoning him. He was He released a
statement thanking the White House and his lawyer, and he
also was was on house arrest for multiple weapons, assault
and drug charges.

Speaker 3 (15:21):
Not murdered. Dimitri just throwing that out there because.

Speaker 2 (15:25):
All that you're comfortable with him getting off here.

Speaker 5 (15:28):
Well, I'm just saying this happened in twenty twenty and
he had a future. His future was hanging in the balance.

Speaker 3 (15:33):
And so for me, I.

Speaker 5 (15:34):
Feel like, why not take a win when we get
to take a win now? As him being on the
street a win, I don't know, but black man being
pardoned is if our president is also going out of
his way to do certain things to get certain people.

Speaker 2 (15:46):
Are you going into accountability? I'm a lot of accountability,
but the truth it accountability.

Speaker 1 (15:53):
This is what I know.

Speaker 3 (15:54):
I don't know this man. Okay, I don't know this man.
I don't know anything about him.

Speaker 5 (15:58):
And so all I can say is I'm happy that
our president is letting, letting.

Speaker 3 (16:04):
It's a black man thing. If the why not take
a win win?

Speaker 2 (16:06):
It's a win now it seems like an okie dope
to me.

Speaker 3 (16:10):
Not to me, I don't I wanted to.

Speaker 5 (16:11):
I want to see a win, acknowledge, win, love, a wind,
speak a win and feel the win.

Speaker 4 (16:17):
You know, you know, you know, you know. It's funny
you say that.

Speaker 6 (16:19):
It's funny you say that because I feel like if
this was any other circumstances, you'd be telling people to
stand up for what they're worth. In this situation, a
man dangles something in your face and say you, guys
should be happy with this.

Speaker 4 (16:31):
Vote for me, and now you're saying a win.

Speaker 3 (16:33):
Is why I didn't say nothing about vote for me.
I'm not saying that. All I said was a black
man got pardoned. That's what I said. I didn't say,
is he probably dangling?

Speaker 5 (16:42):
Yes, it could have changed the views and pursue people
to go in that direction.

Speaker 2 (16:46):
Yes, But that's as much as I love much as
I love to see y'all to fight, I do want
to bring it doc and I want to broaden the
question lout to the other part of what Tiffany was
talking about. Okay, great, thank you for any be a
young boy. But there are thousands and thousands of non
violent marijuana offenders who are in prison in in many

(17:10):
states where that is now legal. I want them out
fuck and be a young boy.

Speaker 1 (17:19):
Well, let me say this, he's a black man. Let
us ask out secondary. Let me add this Alice Walker,
which is the woman who kim To Kardiasian worked very
hard to get pardon Johnson, Alex Johnson, thank you to.
What I do like is that he has Alice taking
lead on these pardons, and he also has Alice being
a part of the one that kind of you know,

(17:40):
lets the family know and in part of the whole process.
I love that. The thing that I know for sure, though,
is this is prepping for twenty twenty eight. Absolutely, re
member we talked about and I mentioned that Republicans strategize
dims don't do well with that. So this is a
Republican strategy to say one or two things. Let me
be passive aggressive by taking away DEI taking away the rights,

(18:03):
taking away all this black resources. But then let me
go ahead and aggressively pardon black people and tee up
the black community to say, look what I'm doing. While
I put out videos that say while I put out
videos that say black people have all these qualifications, I
would have loved to been a black person with these
qualifications at this time because they're the ones that are winning.

(18:25):
So it's a passive aggressive movement. Let me tell you
why he did in the twenty twenty four election. When
he won, he had Rick Ross, he had Snoop Dogg,
one of our biggest black influencers, hold on and many
more perform where at his inauguration where Trump wasn't even present,
hold on, he used media the most powerful thing. We

(18:46):
have to show that we got your black folks over
here at my inauguration. While I what Dimitri said, hold on,
weing this little bit of money in front of them
and show you that y'all can be bought no other alter.
Let me go further, because when Kamala did it, When
Kamala did it and she has sex, he read and
these different black artists is doing it, guess what the

(19:07):
black community said. And I was one, Kamala, We're more
than just shake your ass. We're more than just sexy reds.
We want to hear policy legislation. But when Donald Trump
did it, you had people like Kodak Black who was
at that Amber Rose, who were supporting him to read.
So you hold on because I'm not finished, because what

(19:28):
I'm saying is that this is a passive aggressive act
to make sure that you can strip black people covertly,
but overtly say I've got your back. This is this
man swinging in front of his hands, and there's so
many black people that are falling forward, and there's so
many black people that is confusing that when twenty twenty
eight comes, because the Democrats don't strategize, they're not fucking prepared,

(19:49):
just like they haven't been. The Republicans are going to
have the House, the Senate, and they're gonna have a
fucking president in office of it. If we want to
do something about it, no.

Speaker 2 (19:58):
I think that's I think the aint that you're making
is absolutely right, that this is an oakie doke that
he was putting out these shiny objects. I have freed
these people, you like the Larry Hoover is such an
oakie dog because he doesn't even get out of prison.
He got to go from Festa State and I'm glad
you anybody get out of ady X. But he's still
in a He's still in a cage for the rest

(20:18):
of his life. You know, Trump is giving us these
shiny artists.

Speaker 1 (20:23):
When he got Snoop Dogg, I'm sorry, baby, listen. When
he got Snoop d O double G, who said, and
I love Snoop that's my that's my that's my that's
my guy. But Snoop put out a whole fucking video
about how these other black folks who were supporting Trump
in the smallest way making videos of Trump when he

(20:43):
in his first presidency were pretty much sellouts and whatever
he paid my boy got him to say, you know what,
I too can join the sellout crew because I'm gonna
perform for you at your inauguration. Now becomes a problem.
Wait a minute, because they're saying teray that we could
be bought as a people. So who okay, who's responsible
for that rhetoric and that narrative. Back to your point,

(21:04):
white people are a problem. Is this a white problem
or is it our problem? Because we being bought, were
being bought?

Speaker 2 (21:11):
That correct, that this is a way of buying our
loyalty while as we're saying that, while you're doing actual
harm community in DEI crt history, eliminating positions, eliminating history.
But I gave you this little trinket. N be a
young boy, but I.

Speaker 1 (21:32):
Gave you back. And I love my brothers. That's why
I say, whoever can be part of that black I'm
all for it. But I gave you back a criminal.
I'm not being funked up. I'm being real. But I
gave you back, not the man who like Tiffany's that
who's selling weed on the block. Because when we became legal,
now black market became illegal, so you got brothers who
were making a living from that, and you letting white
boys come in into their neighborhood and and and put

(21:54):
up a dispensary taking away their money. Come on, this
ship gets so deep, man, is so deep. It pisss
me off because again you got people who are lining
up to say, well, he's doing this and I want NBA,
I want everybody out. Okay, but when you're giving us
back our criminals, and I'm not saying he's gonna get
out and do it again, but the repeat rate is
pretty high. But you're not giving us back to brothers

(22:15):
who you know can go into leadership positions, who you
know could run for president against you, who you know
will put you to shame. You're not doing that at all.
So you put what you're doing is passive aggressively, you're
punching us and you're hiding your hands because to my
point of what Kamala thought, what Kamala thought, you can
just bias or provide entertainment, and we're gonna run to

(22:36):
the fucking polls. Well, guess what, we gotta change that up.
We want legislation, we want policy. We want people who
are gonna run black. We want people who gonna stand black.
And even if we lose the race, we win the
fight because black people get to see what it looks
like to represent a black community and we're now selling out.
We're not being by and we're standing on what it is.
And that's what the type of edittude we have to have.
Otherwise y'all gonna have to teem me up and have

(22:58):
me run, because it'll be a whole different president Pident.

Speaker 2 (23:01):
No. I love that. I love that. I hope that
there is actually a fair election in twenty twenty eight.
Right now, I'm not even sure that that would even happen,
But yes, we are seeing the seeds of the stealing
of the black vote through this trickeration of moving forward
into politicking. Trump's trade war and his terror plan ran

(23:25):
to a speed bump this week. A court blocked most
of his tariffs, but then an appeals court stopped the
ban for now. They're going to continue to argue about
it next this month, So we're tariffing the whole world
or not. I'm not even sure there's one CEO says
she knows what to do. LORI rollback clip.

Speaker 8 (23:47):
First of all, I anticipated it.

Speaker 2 (23:49):
I expected it.

Speaker 4 (23:51):
I planned for it.

Speaker 8 (23:52):
Why because the incoming in administration told us very clearly
what they were.

Speaker 1 (23:57):
Going to do.

Speaker 8 (23:58):
I mean, the entire time Trump was running this second time,
he kept talking about tariffs. So I don't understand why
the fifty percent of the country that voted for him
are now shocked by there. There is literally nothing he
has done since coming into office that has shocked me.

Speaker 2 (24:17):
Sari, you're we'y in the business community. I mean, like
this sister is saying she was prepared either way, and
we should just start planning for the worst because the
man we knew was going to just drive off the
deep end in this tariff situation. What do you think
about what the sister's saying.

Speaker 3 (24:34):
I agree wholeheartedly.

Speaker 5 (24:35):
I feel like we should expect the best, but prepare
for the worst. And I feel like those who are
not prepared are the people that oftentimes get smacked by
the circumstances that are happening. Even personal story. You know,
I was having a conversation with my mother who has
a lot of stock. My mom and my dad they
have stock, right, and my Mom's like, oh my god,
I've lost so much money. I should sell I should

(24:56):
I said, do.

Speaker 2 (24:57):
Not, We'll sell your stock.

Speaker 5 (24:59):
Because if you go back and look at history, nine
out of ten times literally the stock market that has
fallen back or gone into recession has always.

Speaker 2 (25:08):
Come out of ten times recover covers.

Speaker 5 (25:11):
And so whether it would be six months or a year,
don't do it. But what do they do. They use
fear tactics for people that are more emotional around their
money rather than strategically planning to buy more while the
richer over here buying way more. And now they got
way richer when the when the stock market recovered. And
so it's the truth. I wholeheartedly agree. I'm not surprised

(25:32):
by anything that Trump does. In fact, I mean I
could say a whole bunch of things, but I would
be crucified.

Speaker 3 (25:36):
But a lot of the things that we talk about.

Speaker 2 (25:37):
You say some of them, no, I don't want to
I don't want to get.

Speaker 1 (25:42):
This is true talks. We ain't doing this.

Speaker 3 (25:45):
Saying I don't want to get canceled on the Internet.

Speaker 5 (25:47):
But this is so as an example, this whole, this
whole deportation thing. I think by the end of the year,
I think Trump will probably be able to say he's
deported more people than Obama because he's using this fear tactic.
I think this whole letting people out, think he is
so strategic inside of what he does.

Speaker 3 (26:04):
And then it braises another question.

Speaker 5 (26:05):
Well, okay, what if he does pardon the NBA guy
I don't even know his name because I don't know.

Speaker 3 (26:12):
He's been pardoned.

Speaker 5 (26:13):
Right, Well, now what happens if he does start to
pardon the men that are in prison because of marijuana. Well,
now you have an in thousands of people that are
grateful for him will probably lean towards him because their
freedom is because of him, because.

Speaker 3 (26:28):
He pardoned them for something that is now legal.

Speaker 5 (26:30):
So I think that Trump, although he's an asshole, although
he's a bigot, although he's a racist, one thing about
him is he's very clear.

Speaker 3 (26:38):
About what he does.

Speaker 5 (26:39):
And I think if we listen, we can jump ahead
of the trend. I have one thousand percent agree with
fon Weaver d Yep.

Speaker 4 (26:47):
I'm with her.

Speaker 6 (26:48):
I think she's showing us that resilience is not passive.

Speaker 2 (26:52):
It's very logistical.

Speaker 6 (26:53):
You actually have to plan because real power doesn't act
for permission. It doesn't, it simply doesn't. It prepares for disruption.
That's what power is. Staying in staying in charge is
knowing what you have and with the ability to see
what's coming. And that's exactly what she did. And I'm
very very proud of her because she said it out

(27:14):
her home mouth. He was saying, oh, this is when
he was running, got in here. What did you think
he was gonna do?

Speaker 2 (27:20):
I just I feel bad for the black people who
are already check to check, stretching a dollar as far
as they can make it, and now suddenly everything costs
more because this moron has created this trade war that
is not for America. There's the regular person in America
is not going to benefit from this. That's the idea

(27:42):
was not for us. So you just raise the prices
of everything, essentials, Christmas thing. I mean, he's talking about
you don't need thirty dollars, you only need two toys.
But he's getting a new plane. But whatever. But there's
a lot of black people who are suffering because of
this trade war. And and you know there's no way

(28:02):
to sort of like mitigate that, like millions of regular
black folks will be penalized by this, and that is
a difficult thing to even wrestle with. Sarah.

Speaker 5 (28:14):
Yeah, I think some sometimes, even if you're living paycheck
to paycheck, if you can muster up an extra hundred
dollars to either invest that or get what's necessary. Because
if you guys noticed mark my words. Guys, mark my words.
You've heard it said a thousand, a thousand times. You
know what Trump is talking about now, blackouts? He's talking
about the grid going down. How many people are currently

(28:36):
prepared for if there is no running water, if there
is no preper part of me?

Speaker 2 (28:43):
You got a prepper to do, right there, doop sday prepper?

Speaker 3 (28:47):
Wait right there, I let you know right now.

Speaker 5 (28:52):
So if you can muster up start But do you
know in my garage right now, and this is for years,
you can go on the Amazon and buy some Bible kids,
get the little books that.

Speaker 2 (29:02):
How many kids you got, how many kids you got.

Speaker 3 (29:05):
I'm set, I'm good.

Speaker 2 (29:06):
How long I'm good, I'm good?

Speaker 3 (29:10):
Oh, way longer than six one?

Speaker 4 (29:13):
That motherfucker go down on you to.

Speaker 5 (29:16):
You need you need batteries, you need flash likes, you
need the thing you need, water packets, you need sanitizing things.

Speaker 3 (29:23):
You need food that can be in vacuum sized.

Speaker 2 (29:27):
But you have vacuum food.

Speaker 3 (29:29):
Yes, you can order it on make It. You can
it on Amazon.

Speaker 1 (29:33):
Okay, military food you wore already, she wore already.

Speaker 3 (29:37):
I'm trying to tell y'all you have to be prepared
when I'm not my mom. You have a gun, green thumb.
Of course, they have a gun.

Speaker 1 (29:46):
Of course shoot.

Speaker 3 (29:48):
Okay.

Speaker 5 (29:48):
My daddy was in the Marine Corps. He he don't miss.
This man is a sniper for real. And I shoot
just like him because my daddy taught me how to shoot.

Speaker 3 (29:57):
So I see what you think.

Speaker 5 (29:58):
Y'all got to get clean, y'all gotta get your houses ready.
Trump is telling you what's gonna happen. And if you
are the person that is not prepared when the grid
goes down or when we don't have clean water, when
it's on you.

Speaker 6 (30:10):
You know, I want to say this, and sometimes I
gotta speak directly to my people.

Speaker 4 (30:14):
It's a lot of y'all voted fuzzs. This to the listeners.
A lot of y'all voting fuzz ask this.

Speaker 6 (30:18):
The fuck y'all get because y'all wasn't listening to that
man when he was talking, and nobody wanted to take
accountability for bringing this shit on. Now this ship's here
and y'all looking at tariffs and saying all these bad things.

Speaker 4 (30:29):
Look what are you doing?

Speaker 2 (30:30):
Now?

Speaker 6 (30:30):
We got higher consumer prices, you got manufacturers losing their
job because shut downs and all of this extra shit.

Speaker 2 (30:37):
Y'all did this to your goddamn sales totally.

Speaker 1 (30:40):
Now, now you're gonna pardon all the all all the
dudes who are gonna go back in the hood and
do the same hoods.

Speaker 3 (30:46):
Sorry, I got to be the bad guys.

Speaker 2 (30:48):
Shoot the mess, Shoot the all of that, plus the
destruction of democracy and the end of the system that
we have prized that really tried to make life better
for a wide swath of people. And now we're here. Okay,
So we're gonna lay out plans over the course of
the season and pay attention to this because you know,

(31:10):
somebody has to. That's the truth Talk's way, that's what
Laurie wants. So that's what we're gonna do. In our
main topic, Let's get ready to rumble. The topic is
Passport Bros. If you touch the topic with your hands,
you burn your little fingers. Sarah, I'm talking about men
who go to small, poorer countries to find women who

(31:33):
are less powerful, have fewer expectations, and are thus going
to be perhaps more submissive and pliant than American women
who want their own jobs and their own bank accounts
and their own agency to do and wear whatever they want.
Who needs all that? This is a hot triggering topic.
My man j Cole made a whole song about Passport Bros.

(31:57):
The Passport bro as.

Speaker 10 (32:01):
I'm a little old fashion coast to coast out the
show coach smashion shots to class, say den little by
saying Barcelona. The NWS just dropped, I'm a Barcelona. What
can I say to coach Cliff to suit me up
and out Playton and win it. We had take Mayfair,
you can't get in the little back room or nothing.
And they hit it in the prettiest girls, allfy printed
and they say I'm their favorite. They want me to
lay with is Playton. Now we own in my ah ship.

(32:23):
We just sit fly here. They're playing a dirt song
in my I'm on fire, a little wristbom She looked like, Maya.

Speaker 2 (32:28):
Don't want me to try hola. Oh Sarah's traumatized. She'd
listen to hip hop for thirty whole seconds. But look,
there's a whole story of how this passport bro movement started.
Laurie dug up the clip Lourie run that clip Please.

Speaker 7 (32:44):
Began back in twenty eleven when a filmmaker by the
name Algreaves made a documentary called Frustrated, and the subject
of the documentary was black men who were American and
were frustrated with the dating scene in America, and so
they went off to Brazil to find more feminine and
Brazilian women. Fast forward to twenty twenty three and this

(33:06):
movement has expanded as blown up and it has become
a very divisive subculture on the Internet. There are many people,
especially women, who are disgusted by the passport pro movement
and they basically see it as glorified sex tourism.

Speaker 11 (33:23):
When you pay attention to the passport bros, like they're
getting women from like the dr Colombia, the Philippines, Thailand,
like women that can speak very little English, women that
don't have education, women.

Speaker 2 (33:33):
That woh Sarah definitely sex tourism. Is this sexism?

Speaker 3 (33:42):
Oh, great question, I don't think so. You know, the
thing that stood out to me in the video is
he said.

Speaker 5 (33:49):
More feminine women, And the truth is I think that's
kind of true. I think a lot of women here
in America are very much inside of their masculine super
high expectations and then also kind of weird with no standard.
So I do think that to an extent, I can
understand why they would go, because you know, the women

(34:13):
these But here's my question actually in all seriousness, because
I also do feel like one of the things that
they are not expecting for the passport bros That go
overseas is they're not expecting to have to pay the
bills of those women because please believe, they are expecting
a man that is going to be a provider, so
they can be this softer domestic women.

Speaker 3 (34:34):
Why can't men be that way with American women?

Speaker 1 (34:38):
Well, first of all, their bills are about negative three
percent to the comparison of the bills here in the US.
That's one thing that men are doing. I have guy
friends who frequent Colombia and dr because of their they
don't call themselves this, but obviously by definition their passport bros.
And I even have a good friend who says, once
his son turns eighteen and is done with high school
and interest into college, that he's actually moving to Columbia

(35:01):
and gonna find his wife in setup shop there because
he said, is less expensive. He also said that not
just men, but black men are very much in demand there.
So if you're a black man from the States, they
look at you as like, you know, you're this Michael
Jordan of the men just from being another country. And
he did say that sex is easier. He said that
the submission is there, and it really doesn't cost anything

(35:24):
to care for these women because they are in third
world countries most of the time. The cost of living
is extremely low and you can go there and really
have a great quality of life for them. So there's
a lot of men who I know personally who are
doing it and this is their thing.

Speaker 2 (35:38):
It does feel like a rejection of American women and
a rejection of women who have agency and women who know, hey,
I am equal to you and I should be, you know,
have rights and all the things equal, and like if
you're like, nah, I don't like that, you can go
to a third world country and get a woman who's like, yeah,

(35:59):
I don't mind being supported nikes, like if I felt
like you were genuinely like, I respect Brazilian culture. I
just love those women and I want like that, but
like to meet you. They're out here trying to get
somebody who will do whatever they want, and I don't
I think that you're seeing like American women have demands.

(36:21):
They want to be seen as full people. I don't
want to do that, you know.

Speaker 6 (36:25):
I don't think the idea of it is lacking femininity.
I don't think that's the problem why men are running
overseas x y Z. In my opinion, there is nothing,
and I mean nothing revolutionary about chasing submission. There's nothing
revolutionary about submission in economically vulnerable places men.

Speaker 2 (36:49):
But is it okay?

Speaker 4 (36:51):
Men do it in America?

Speaker 2 (36:52):
They go where the weak women are.

Speaker 6 (36:54):
That's what they that's what they aim for, right, and
now we're saying okay, they found even yes, by God,
look so Algie an example.

Speaker 4 (37:04):
The thing about it is there's places in America and
I ain't.

Speaker 6 (37:07):
Gonna ain't gonna call them out specific because people may
frequent those that I may not. Right, there's places in America,
say where low vibrational people are or people with low.

Speaker 4 (37:16):
Self esteem might hang out. Let me tell you something.

Speaker 6 (37:18):
A man is not going to the gym to find
one of these women who's just gonna bow down to
what he want to do. Why because that woman is
there in there on her own discipline, He understands, she
she knows about.

Speaker 2 (37:28):
You mean, you trying to meet a woman like in
a a who's in trouble.

Speaker 4 (37:35):
I'm talking all of it.

Speaker 6 (37:36):
I guarantee you there's man victimizing women in these positions
they are in life.

Speaker 4 (37:40):
So there's nothing new for me. This is this is
not not abnormal. Like why would not go even further
if I could? So the moment that man who will
victimize that woman got.

Speaker 6 (37:50):
That passport, he took off and he said, hey, she
gonna listen to whatever I say.

Speaker 2 (37:55):
But this what he missed it.

Speaker 6 (37:56):
I don't know if y'all remember this. I think it
might have been on deliriousness. I mean, I'm shureing my
age here, but it may have been.

Speaker 2 (38:02):
Yeah, hey, it's not new. Eddie Murphy joked about this
thirty five years ago.

Speaker 1 (38:13):
Y'all are funny boy, that is it?

Speaker 2 (38:17):
Okay? Lourie found that Lloyd found a clip for us
about his hypocrisy that's implicit in this. Let me see
that ro.

Speaker 12 (38:26):
Seem to be a high commodity nowadays, so let's just
go ahead and get straight into it. These are the
same mean that you said you didn't want, didn't need,
and they are broke. I'm gonna be honest, going overseas
to travel frequently and leave does not equate to broke.
But then again, this just simply speaks to the delusion
and hypocrisy of women.

Speaker 3 (38:42):
These men have been very clear in their mestress.

Speaker 12 (38:44):
They've said time and time again they want to wire
someone they can deal with, start their family, with someone
they can create a legacy with, which y'all heard was
they wanted someone that they can control. Y'all minimize being
a wife simply down to being a slave, even so
much as telling those other women overseas that they're uneducated
and practicing six tourism, And in turn, a lot of
y'all have took y'all degree and traded an end for
OnlyFans profile.

Speaker 2 (39:05):
See doc this. What about that you're not doing this
because you want love or respect. You want somebody who's
going to be underneath you. And do what you want
and be under your thumb. And I find that gross.
I never set out to find a woman who would
be underneath me with the notion was always like, it's
going to be a partner emotionally, parentally, financially. It's not

(39:27):
fifty to fifty, Doc, I don't freak out, don't forget.
I just feel like we are working together to like
build a future together, and like not like you d
walk three steps behind me. That's what they want, Doc,
But this is the thing.

Speaker 1 (39:40):
Ray, what's wrong with somebody wanting what they want? We
don't have to want it. It's a preference. If a
man wants to go to tim Buck two to find
him a wife who does tim Buck three. So be
hold on. You have women who will say they want
a husband who makes a certain amount of dollar amount
who can't. Why are people so caught up and needing
to agree or validate what peace want or what brings

(40:01):
them joy, happiness, or just satisfaction.

Speaker 2 (40:03):
It's not that, it's not that, it's nothing.

Speaker 3 (40:05):
Now, I see.

Speaker 1 (40:06):
Nothing wrong with bros getting together. What a passport wanting
to travel, whether they're just traveling to have a night
of passion, or they're traveling to meet a wife. I
don't care because those those bros are not men who
I'm looking to seek me or pursue me. I don't
give it down with them. This is my thing. Take
your ass on over there, so it's less of you
I got to deal with. I don't care. Now if

(40:27):
you're talking about a man approaching me or you know
some us personally a woman with you and having that
same desire and it just doesn't fit you, and it's
it's becoming an issue where they're projecting this, then you
have a problem. Why do we have a problem with
men doing what how they want to do. It's not
a problem.

Speaker 2 (40:44):
This speaks to men hating women and wanting women to
be with them, to have access to them sexually without
having to do something. These are American men who are
used to American women who have who demand agency, and
they say no, I don't want that. I want a
woman who won't demand agency.

Speaker 1 (41:06):
Can we LORI?

Speaker 2 (41:07):
Can we rot?

Speaker 7 (41:07):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (41:08):
Wait? Do you I want to put there was another
clip that Laurie brought up to see. I'm so glad
doctor b Be got rid of Jody because Lourie is
so much better a man going to another country and
saying I want you, and the woman going, well, are
you going to provide for me? And he's so, now
you have to respect her right because you have to
give your earning stewards so you're pre ready. And then

(41:30):
he was like, oh, I don't know if I want
to do all that, Like.

Speaker 1 (41:37):
There are, however, way there's woman here in the States
who do that. Why is everybody acting so naive to.

Speaker 11 (41:45):
Do that?

Speaker 1 (41:46):
The only difference is listen, when you travel thorough world,
country's cost of living is much cheaper item been to
Belize and Dubai and Indian.

Speaker 2 (41:55):
Let's see the clip. Let's see the clip about what
exactly what you're saying, Laurie. Let's see this.

Speaker 11 (42:00):
Modern men and modern women in the dating arena is
that there are so many modern men that want.

Speaker 3 (42:06):
Traditional women without having to be traditional men. What am
I talking about? Let me let him explain, and typically
in an Arab household.

Speaker 1 (42:14):
But man is a provider financially, and that's just how
it is.

Speaker 2 (42:20):
That is just something I wasn't prepared for. Most air
women expect that, just like most.

Speaker 9 (42:27):
American people expect the woman to contribute half or not.

Speaker 11 (42:31):
But you're not dealing with an American woman.

Speaker 2 (42:32):
No, but I think she'd have to deal with some
of my things so too. This is definitely not what
I wanted to hear. I thought Moroccan women prioritize family
over material things, and I was not anticipating that it
would mean I have to be the sole provider for
a household. I didn't sign up for this. So what
do you providing is respect for the woman in action?

(42:55):
We want to do that because he doesn't truly respect
her brow another country woman.

Speaker 3 (43:02):
That's the wrong.

Speaker 1 (43:04):
That's the wrong, bro. First of all, that's all I okay.

Speaker 3 (43:08):
Really quick.

Speaker 5 (43:08):
So if you passport bros. Most of the passport borrows
are broke. Why you don't see a lot of very
affluent men saying I'm a passport bro. You see a
lot of men passport brolaim that.

Speaker 3 (43:26):
Listen. Listen. This is the point.

Speaker 5 (43:28):
The reason why the men that don't have money are
passport bros. Is because in order for a man to
feel good about himself, I believe that he needs three things.
He needs to feel good in his bank account, he
needs to feel good in his purpose, and he needs
to know who he is.

Speaker 3 (43:42):
And it's not until we have all three of these things.

Speaker 2 (43:48):
You miss one, you miss one. What he's got to
get that all those things, Yes, but he's got to
get validation from women. Women, got to validation about himself.

Speaker 3 (43:57):
He's outward. I'm talking about inward. These are the in
were things for a man to be.

Speaker 2 (44:03):
That's funny, that's.

Speaker 3 (44:06):
Listen. This is the thing you look Terrey.

Speaker 5 (44:11):
If you guys, if you men don't feel good in
your bank account, then you don't respect yourself so low
key subconscious that you don't expect a woman to respect you.
If you are women's good of America, if you're dating
inside of America, which starts to happen, is all of
these women that are mirrors for you in all the

(44:31):
places that you have.

Speaker 3 (44:32):
Do you do, Terrey, let me finish.

Speaker 2 (44:33):
What do you do?

Speaker 5 (44:34):
You go to a different country where women it does
take less to provide for her. But also you know,
you can live in Thailand like a god. For two
thousand dollars. You could have a butler, a driver, a nanny,
a cleaner, and all of these aferent things. Wait, ray,
let me finish.

Speaker 3 (44:49):
This is my point.

Speaker 5 (44:50):
My point is most times you find that passportporals, I
have so many affluent males in my life. Some are married,
somemer relationships, some are single, and none of them would
ever call themselves passport bros.

Speaker 2 (45:04):
None of them.

Speaker 1 (45:05):
Can I push back one minute to meet you, because
I have a lot of affluent, high network men who
got wives, and they more passed port bros than the
negroes who ain't got no wise only different. That's why
you laughing. They are the d are paying for the

(45:26):
p R Columbia, paying bills, paying bills. Hold on, they
got a whole woman who thinks she's his wife and
was back and forth to be So.

Speaker 5 (45:37):
Let's clarify, because the passport bro overseas in order to
look for a wife, why they have wives here and
they setting up shop with wives there.

Speaker 3 (45:51):
That's just a cheatersport bro money.

Speaker 1 (45:56):
Paying for what they want and having a whole shop
in Costa Rica said, what a whole woman who thinks
he has a whole wife. And that's what these men
are doing. They it doesn't matter are socioeconomic status men
do the same thing. Some just do it bro, and
some just do it rich.

Speaker 2 (46:10):
I want to flip to the other side of this
amazing conversation because there's also if you go on like
the one eighty of this more black trad wives, I mean,
like traditional wives, like people who are like I want
to be like June Cleaver, like domesticated in the kitchen,
like serving my husband, like serving my family, like Laurie

(46:33):
found a video about it. Roll the video Laurie.

Speaker 4 (46:37):
Shout out the Lord.

Speaker 1 (46:39):
We love Lauri Demitria hide gay better.

Speaker 3 (46:42):
Than Jody Fashion. Can I just say that?

Speaker 2 (46:46):
I mean, like, you know, look at what they're wearing
for wife, very supermarket, very domestic goddess. Oh that you know,
women who are willing to be a domestic nurturer in
a way that recalls like the way your grandmother lived.
And this is sort of like a response to like,
you know, the men going in this wild direction one

(47:08):
way and they're going in another. Now Smith on TikTok,
I think she's like fifty million followers. I love her
content like the ultimate like black level internet trad wife.
Uh to beg, what is the rise of black trad
wives really about?

Speaker 4 (47:24):
You think?

Speaker 1 (47:25):
To meet you? Where's the black woman at in these photos?

Speaker 4 (47:27):
Baby black women photos?

Speaker 1 (47:34):
You know?

Speaker 4 (47:34):
And I think the thing about it is this is
just my opinion and I could be wrong.

Speaker 6 (47:39):
I ain't never told black I ain't never I ain't
never win that black woman, and I never will. But
in this idea, the problem with being a trad wife,
a tra wife, you don't get a credit card, you
don't get you don't get a voice, you don't get
to say what we're finnah do.

Speaker 4 (47:51):
You don't get the x y Z. And Black women
are far too powerful to be put in this position
and tolerated.

Speaker 6 (47:57):
The thing about it is a black woman she want
to be a trad but that that look down cook
and skirt. I gotta be mouis bvata. I gotta say
that at the bottom it got you know what I'm
saying like it doesn't. The lifestyles don't coexist. Black women
are too powerful to be put in this position.

Speaker 2 (48:12):
And as justice mom, doctor ban, is this not reject
feminism the whole notion of being a trad wife.

Speaker 1 (48:20):
Well, so okay, so listen. I access to y'all earlier.
I was a kept woman, you said, a cat woman
and trad wife is different. When I was kept, I cooked,
I cleaned, and I made sure I never denied sex
or intimacy around the clock. But I never had a
work I didn't even pay. I didn't buy a grape,
but I cooked breakfast, lunch, and dinner. And all I
did was work out and run INNAACP and run my

(48:41):
Doctor Brian Foundation. That's just the truth. And when I
went to start my private practice up again, I started
with a few clients. When I started to accumulate a lot,
he said, I thought you said you're only going to
do a few. He didn't like that. I enjoyed the lifestyle.
I enjoyed being kept. So if the trad is the cap,
I actually like it. I think there's nothing thing wrong
with women being in that space. But to Dimitri's point,

(49:03):
you're right, I got to have a say, so right
I did. I got to say where I wanted to go.

Speaker 2 (49:11):
You don't really trad there, you're kept, And I think
the kept woman is.

Speaker 1 (49:15):
What's the difference, so people can I don't what the brad.

Speaker 2 (49:17):
Is referring to the way that femininity or womanhood was
like in the nineteen fifties when women really didn't have
rights and you're just in the kitchen, just being a
domestic goddess, and like look at the photos that Laurie
grow up like, it's it's very traditional. I think kept
can be have that economic component that you're talking about.
I think Cassie was kept, but you are like, I

(49:39):
choose this, I accept this, I want this, And I'm
not saying that tradwives don't want it, but like it's
a relic of the past that is coming back. Yeah,
as part of like maybe like a search for comfort
in a changing world. I don't know, Sarah. Do you
understand why we're seeing more black trad wives?

Speaker 3 (49:58):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (49:58):
Absolutely, number one. And I think feminism is a scam.
I think it has set women up to things that
is not Feminism is a scam.

Speaker 2 (50:08):
It is women wanting to be equal as a scam.

Speaker 5 (50:11):
We're not equal. Why does everybody keep saying that. I
don't care what anybody has to say in the commentary.
You're a man and I'm a woman, and it's different
but equal.

Speaker 1 (50:22):
Let her explain it, Sarah? Can you can you explain
how we're different? Because this is an interesting perspective.

Speaker 4 (50:26):
I mean, I've.

Speaker 5 (50:29):
About it, so I feel like for me personally, when
I look at men and I look at women, men
have way more responsibility in a tangible way. Women have
way more responsibility in an intangible way.

Speaker 2 (50:44):
We are not equal.

Speaker 3 (50:45):
We are the yin to the gang.

Speaker 5 (50:46):
We are opposite, we are inverted. That's the way that
it's supposed to be, right, So if, if, if, we
are supposed to be feminists because now, and although I
am a high earning, high value woman, okay, however, that
is the last thing that anybody would ever know about
me unless you know things that are also very classic.

(51:08):
I'm not the super flashy girl as far as anybody knows.
I'm broke, I'm ugly, I'm single, and don't nobody want
me because I'm not interested in what comes with men
thinking that I need to be the masculine, high earning,
high achieving woman.

Speaker 3 (51:21):
We are not equal in that.

Speaker 5 (51:23):
Sense, and that's the problem. I feel like somewhere down
the line, women forgot their place. Now that being said,
that does not mean that women are supposed to be
home naked or barefoot in the kitchen having kids. I'm
not saying that because at the same time, I do
feel like it's impossible to be a feminine woman without
making your own money.

Speaker 3 (51:41):
But it shouldn't lead with that. Women need to know
their place. And also what I will say is.

Speaker 2 (51:48):
What is their place? What is their place?

Speaker 5 (51:51):
A woman's place. Number one are we are the neck. Okay,
this is what I feel. Men are the head of
the household. Women are the neck. You can't look in
a direction without us, you can even stand upright without us.
We are so necessary and quintessential to the way that
everything moves in shake.

Speaker 3 (52:06):
That is our place. Our place is not to be
the leadership. I love your face, Dmitri, Absolutely love it.

Speaker 7 (52:11):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (52:12):
I understand what the woman's place is tech analogy, but
what is the woman's place?

Speaker 3 (52:18):
So that is the woman's place.

Speaker 5 (52:20):
So what I'm saying is I also feel like women
what we get to do because a lot of the
times we wear this badge of honor for exhaustion. We
wear this badge of honor for being overwhelmed and looked
over and feeling over stimulated when we could outsource so.

Speaker 3 (52:34):
Many of those things.

Speaker 5 (52:35):
If you think about how much money does someone spend
in a day on food, Let's say you spend twenty
dollars a day or thirty dollars a day. That's really
easy to do. That's six hundred dollars a month or
nine hundred dollars a month. You could take that nine
hundred dollars, cut it in half. Take five hundred dollars,
it put it in the stock market. That other four
hundred dollars hire you a cleaner and get some meal
prep for the month, so that you actually have some
time for yourself, or more time with your children, or

(52:58):
more time with your husband. Our responsibility is way more
intangible than tangible on the feminine side, I should say that.

Speaker 2 (53:06):
So do you think men and women are equal?

Speaker 3 (53:09):
No, they're different.

Speaker 2 (53:14):
Does answer the question different, does not answer the question are.

Speaker 3 (53:16):
They Are we equally valuable? Yes? Are we equally human?

Speaker 4 (53:21):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (53:22):
Are we equally loved?

Speaker 1 (53:24):
Yes?

Speaker 3 (53:25):
We should be.

Speaker 5 (53:26):
However, we're very different. So I guess it's just different,
different ideologies, different languaging. But I feel like women, especially
Black women, we don't know our place anymore.

Speaker 2 (53:37):
DOC you talked about being kept, you understand what that
can be like for yourself and other women. Is that
notion of being controlled by the man either in trad
or is that an attack on black feminism?

Speaker 1 (53:53):
Absolutely not. I think that there's a lot of Black
women like myself who do do do know my place?
I knew my place when I was kept. I know
my place now that I'm single. I know my position,
and that position may change depending on the circumstance, are
the person who I'm in a relationship with or my goal.

(54:14):
And I also believe that being kept isn't an attack
against feminism. I feel like a woman who's kept can
have other responsibilities that actually empower and encourage and recharge
the entire household, including the home. So I think that
when you're talking about kept, if you're saying a woman
who's just sitting there staring at a wall, then she's
not a contribution. A woman like myself who was making

(54:36):
sure my man was fed, making sure he was sexually satisfied,
making sure that emotionally, mentally, and spiritually, I was there
having his back. And you know, I traveled with him,
I assisted him with things he wanted me to assist
him with. And I didn't do it because I had
to in exchange for my keptness. I did it because
I actually genuinely loved being submissive to my man. I

(54:57):
am a hybrid. I'm alpha submissive. I'm alpha when it
comes to the bar. I can be out for here
on you talks at work, but at home I am
very naturally submissive. My love language, the way I love
is yes, baby, and yes daddy, And if that's what
you need, what do you need from me? I am
a very much of a service woman who will have
a voice if I need to apply boundaries. So when

(55:17):
I think of a woman being kept, I think of
a woman like the say myself. By the time I
met my fiance, at that time, I had all my degrees.
I was already a doctor in private practice. I was
president in DOAACP. I was already a democratic, delicate elected official.
I was a powerhouse woman. He just took me out
of that element and said, baby, look chill out. And
I said, shit, this is a refuge a save space.
I need a motherfucking break. I relaxed, be kept and

(55:40):
keep the householding you.

Speaker 2 (55:43):
So much to society and you continue to inaacp continued
other the foundation continued. But I feel like so much
of what made you a powerhouse was if you agreed
to it. But it's like it was it was it
was pulled back. No, no, you especially that's.

Speaker 1 (56:04):
You know when I when I when I was engaged
to marry this man, in my mind we were getting married, right.
So when you're saying contribute to society, I was contributing
to my internal society, which was my household. My husband
at that time was going to be my husband. I
was going to have a family and kids with so
my job as a woman was to contribute to that
household as well so that my husband could be prepared
and teed up so that when I have these babies,

(56:25):
I can be at home with my kids, so we
can have a certain household that we shared. Our values were,
let me go get the bread, can you keep me
well prepped and recharged as a woman, and then you
can be at home with the kids until you decide
to return to work. I was a professor at a
law schoo at the master's level. I left to go
to work one night and I said, oh my god,
I really don't feel like which we all do. We

(56:45):
all do that about work. I really do not feel
like going tonight. The best thing that I've ever heard
a man say to me was what that man said.
He said, Baby, listen, you know you're only going because
you want to, because you don't have to go. Now. Listen,
what I'm saying is to have someone tell you that
from a place of I got you. So you're doing
this because you want to, and I support if you
want to, but I was a support if you don't
want to, because I have set a shot for you

(57:07):
as my woman. Mean, the things that you would naturally
have to do as a single woman, you don't have
to do when you're with me. That is actually team
up and empowering a woman's femininity. That is actually putting
a place a woman in a place to say, I
am empowered to do whatever I want. Love on this
man and stay home or go out there and get
it because it wasn't intimidated by my power. But I
chose to take my power, split it up and give

(57:29):
it to a man who I do not regret doing
that for because that was a great time in a
great season.

Speaker 2 (57:34):
D Lurie wants me to play one more video because
there is another part of this whole passport thing that
we haven't gotten to yet.

Speaker 3 (57:40):
LORI run now and anything.

Speaker 12 (57:42):
When women were going to do by, we know why
you were going. Nobody said anything when woman were flies
flute out. We know what you were doing when nobody
say anything. When Nigerian and Jamaica me and need a
green cars and y'all start up. I'll find marriage documents
so you could have driven your range Rover with your
red bottoms.

Speaker 3 (57:58):
Let's just call a spade a space.

Speaker 12 (58:00):
Y'all wanted the option to go back to these men
at the demand that you really wanted was done dragging
you through the mood.

Speaker 2 (58:07):
Who Dimity Kim believe my mind asked this question in
twenty twenty five, But what is a woman's place?

Speaker 4 (58:13):
Hey, listen, man, this is this here, this whole little
conversation that right there.

Speaker 6 (58:17):
I ain't like none of it what it is, And
I'm gonna say it all the time because I'm gonna
advocate for their love, because that's the love I truly
desire in my lifetime.

Speaker 4 (58:27):
My parents kept it together in unity. It's a customized love.
There's no pre written rules for who's the head, who's
the neck, none of that. Everything they did, they did
it together.

Speaker 6 (58:37):
It was equal voice and decision making, equal accountability, equal responsibility,
equal right to be a human when you need to
just be a human.

Speaker 4 (58:45):
It was mutual respect. It wasn't about how much how
much you brought into this household did not make you
a man, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (58:52):
It did not.

Speaker 6 (58:53):
It did not change my mother's perspective on how she
saw her husband when he couldn't work, she did, and
then he gave her the option to work when he could.
The thing about it is, I hate this narrative that
there's a preset requisite for how you should operate in
your relationship.

Speaker 4 (59:09):
And this is for everybody in the chat because I
see y'all going crazy right now.

Speaker 6 (59:12):
Please understand. You're going to do it for what works
best for you. That's all you're trying to accomplish. If
you want to be a stay at home wife and
you want to be kept, or you want to be
whatever you want to do, if it works for you,
you do that. But if you love somebody, you're not
going to change how you see him because of the circumstance.

Speaker 2 (59:30):
I appreciate what you said about your parents dynamic, and
you know, my parents dynamic was incredible. It was somewhat
traditional in that my father worked and my mother did not,
and she's not trad but she was at home. But
he showed her so much respect. He listened to her,
He led, but he would listen to her. He would

(59:52):
make sure to show us how tender he was with her,
and he would, like, you know, just be sensitive with
her and like you know eat, I mean, like treat
a woman differently, but like with love and concern and
caring and like you know I mean, and and not
arguing with her. That's the whole thing where they would
like if they had a fight, they had a disagreement,

(01:00:12):
they would forget it, like right away.

Speaker 1 (01:00:14):
So we would just I want to add to one thing.

Speaker 3 (01:00:23):
Hang on, hang on.

Speaker 1 (01:00:26):
One second, I promise, just real quick. Because you said
he made it for really loved, right. I think what
a lot of women miss is that being provided for
is a huge way of feeling loved by your man.
That is a way of feeling loved.

Speaker 5 (01:00:39):
So what I was gonna say was inside of the
dynamic of what I've seen. When I say know your place,
I mean know your place, it is individually customized. When
my dad injured himself and only had disability money coming in,
my mom was still cooking every meal. My mom was
still taking care of my dad. My dad was still
my mom was still working all of these things to

(01:00:59):
make sure that we weren't homeless. So inside of what
I'm really trying to say is women, because I do
feel like we, especially as Black women, some of us,
not all of us, but some women have gotten away
from taking care of our man in an intangible way.
It is a very transactional society. It is very much
what have you done for me lately? And it is

(01:01:20):
very much high levels of entitlement. That's what I'm saying.
I'm not saying I've only ever seen a good example
from my parents. I've only ever seen ride or die,
which is me. And you know, my moms not a
stay at home mom. My dad was not a stay
at home dad. But I've seen functional relationships, and so
I feel like we get to create our own lane
of what it looks like. But I do think inside

(01:01:41):
of your relationship, you have to know your place, and
for me, I don't know what.

Speaker 2 (01:01:46):
The place is though you keep saying the place, and
what is your place?

Speaker 3 (01:01:51):
So your place? Okay?

Speaker 5 (01:01:52):
So for me inside of a feminine household, I'm a
feminine woman. I'm a feminine presenting, feminine woman right who
desires a masculine man. Meaning if you want to be feminine,
you can't talk to your man any kind of way.
If you want to be in a healthy relationship, you
can't talk to you. You can't go off, you can't
come off the cuff, talking out the side of your neck.
There are certain rules to the game, so depending on

(01:02:15):
what game you.

Speaker 3 (01:02:16):
Want to play, it is individualized. You've got to figure
out your rule book.

Speaker 5 (01:02:21):
You have to know your place inside of a relationship,
especially as a feminine woman that's a man has control
over me.

Speaker 3 (01:02:28):
I mean we puppeted in a relationship.

Speaker 2 (01:02:31):
My wife is equal to me. We don't talk out
crazy to each I mean, that's just basic relationship. That's
not like some know your place though, I'm still trying
to get down. Maybe Laurie, we have to course the
next episode, because you keep saying a woman to know
her place, and that makes me very uncomfortable, you know,
and understanding the place that women have had historically in

(01:02:53):
this country. And I'm like, well, what do you mean specifically?
And I'm like, we're not quite getting to what you means.
I mean, in my life, we have seen this rise
of women into positions of power, into positions of agency,
into being forces in this country. And I see with
the Passport bros. Men who are saying I want no
part of that. I want the weakest woman I can find.

(01:03:16):
And I'm like, that's but I think.

Speaker 1 (01:03:20):
Everybody that he's saying to your point that there are
women who have agency now, who have power, who are educated, successful,
But even though you have all those things, there is
still a healthy dynamic when a woman is in a
relationship with the man who are doing all of those
providing and loving and respecting things. She's saying that, you know,
don't come into it and pretty much strong arm and

(01:03:42):
use your power against that. You have that hybridness of
knowing how to cemit and still respecting him. Kind of
like Dmitri said, no matter what dollar amount his father made,
Mama still knew who Daddy was. Mama still knew who
Papa was. And the beauty of it is, like Dmitri said,
my only place I know for me as a woman
is if you're taking full care of me, partial care
of me, whatever it is, and I'm with you if

(01:04:03):
you fall short. I just want Daddy to know baby
got your back. That is the role that I know
is my anything. It does kind of shift because you
don't know what circumstance comes.

Speaker 2 (01:04:12):
So both of you on anybody, I know, you just
use the word submit, And I think Sarah used that
word to I know, but it's not like I would
never ever use that word in relation to me, even
when we got married and the Reverend Rummers are officiant
from rud DMC. We were like, we were like, uh,

(01:04:35):
you know, we're gonna say obey. She was like, no,
I'm not gonna say obey. I'm not gonna promise to
obey you. And I you know, let's go. You don't
have to a baby like we're gonna walk.

Speaker 1 (01:04:47):
But I think great. The thing is, I think even
if we're not using these words or these somantics, all
these words are action words. And when your wife came
in to help you with your camera, that was her
way of having being of service, and that is a submission.
She doesn't have to say it. She's not obeying you,
but you said honey, honey, and she came very quick
and was very beautiful and sweet and helped you. That

(01:05:10):
is an act of submission. That is an act of obeying.
It doesn't mean obey like you're thinking. It's if I
need you and you help me, you're in a place
of service. You're submitting to me.

Speaker 3 (01:05:20):
I can submit to Dmitri.

Speaker 1 (01:05:22):
It is just my friend. Dmitri calls me and says, Doc,
I need you. I'm gonna submit to him because that's
my boy. If Dmitri says he needs me to do something.
I'm going to be in my service position to Dmitri
or Sarah because that's what it is. So you don't
have to go with the word if the word is weird.
But the behavior, especially for you to have this long
twenty thirty year marriage that you've had, y'all had to
have submitted to one another. You've had to have it made,

(01:05:43):
obeyed each other at some point, otherwise y'all wouldn't be
equally well.

Speaker 4 (01:05:48):
This is my last thing.

Speaker 6 (01:05:49):
I just want to say this because y'all know I'm manifesting.
I'm always looking in the comment section, please let it
be known if you want this triad white thing to
actually find the space and we carveling for this, but
this is Whiteley. If you out there listen, I'm gonna
put this in the listen. You can be the head
of the household. Whenever you choose to pop them up
on the neck. I will play whatever position necessary for
you to thrive as long as you guarantee me the

(01:06:11):
same thing.

Speaker 4 (01:06:12):
Call it what you want.

Speaker 2 (01:06:14):
His d M is about to be full right now.
Oh my god, oh my god.

Speaker 1 (01:06:18):
You know, if you want I might have slid the
d MS after but that's my little brother. Tell me
that's my little brother.

Speaker 2 (01:06:27):
Oh my god. That is it for us tonight? What
a show? Wow, I need a breath like that was
you need to do?

Speaker 1 (01:06:37):
Go submit to your wife being after submission.

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