Backstage to Halftime: Country, Controversy, and Kids in a Digital Storm :: Ep 77 Try That in a Small Town Podcast

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SPEAKER_03 (00:29):
It's a social media problem.
It's poisoning the kids.
It really is.
It's them at this point of theirlife having to figure out how to
balance what you know what theyknow is right or wrong, but
they're still exposed to thingsthat I wasn't exposed to at
being 14, you know.

SPEAKER_10 (00:49):
Roger Goodell is to blame for all of this.
He's so out of touch with hisfan base and the NFL fan base,
and some of the players arespeaking up.
I think that there's a chancethat it may get canceled.
No.
No, no, no.
I really do.
I think there's a chance.
I'm not saying it's going to.
I'm just, I think that there'senough, there's going to be

(01:10):
enough backlash that he maychange his mind.

SPEAKER_02 (01:14):
There's like the thing on Netflix now.
Have you guys hear about this?
It's a cartoon, it's a kid'sshow, and it's basically
glorifying transgender.
And it's.

SPEAKER_11 (01:23):
It's like, I wouldn't even think to think and
look at that.

SPEAKER_02 (01:27):
But you have to as a parent.
It's just there are obstaclesand there's more things being
thrown at the kids.

SPEAKER_01 (01:33):
The Try That in a Small Town Podcast begins.

SPEAKER_02 (01:43):
Alright, welcome back to another episode of the
Try That's the World.

SPEAKER_10 (01:47):
When you say welcome back, do you mean welcome?
I mean you are fired.
But do you mean it's likewelcome?
Of course I do.
Or is it just like like how youdoing?
And you really don't really wantto know how somebody's trying to
have a professional intro.
You mean welcome?
Like seriously.

SPEAKER_02 (02:03):
Here's what I mean.
What?
Welcome back to the podcast.

SPEAKER_10 (02:07):
Whatever.

SPEAKER_02 (02:07):
We're at the Patriot Mobile Studios powered by
eSpaces.
And as you can tell, there's alittle bit of energy in the
room.
I think it's we haven't beentogether in a couple weeks.
We put an episode out everyweek.
Everybody knows that.

SPEAKER_10 (02:22):
Do you know what it is?
It's I miss, I miss everybody.
I've been missing everybody.
I really have.
Full frontal?
Yeah.
I don't like coming.
The side thing is like afreaking dog.
I'm tired of it.

SPEAKER_03 (02:38):
I'm in the cuntal with the full frontal hug.

SPEAKER_10 (02:41):
I've missed y'all that bad.

SPEAKER_03 (02:42):
I really have.

SPEAKER_10 (02:43):
I'm just not.

SPEAKER_03 (02:43):
Interesting.
You do have it live.

SPEAKER_10 (02:46):
Why aren't you why aren't you kind of like?

SPEAKER_03 (02:47):
There's no reason to do a full frontal hug with a
dude.
I'm coming in at an angle.
And you can reason a pat.

SPEAKER_10 (02:54):
It's so stupid.
It's so stupid.
Bring it in.

SPEAKER_05 (02:56):
You can bring it in a funeral if you've lost
somebody, maybe.
Like a full frontal pat on theback, you know.
Yeah, it's different.
Life is short, guys.

SPEAKER_10 (03:04):
Let's start hugging each other.
Okay.
I hug, I just don't do fullfrontal path.
I'll do it.
I'm a squeezer.
Oh my.

SPEAKER_06 (03:10):
Okay.
Alrighty then.
Hey, where did we get this rockand roll apple?

SPEAKER_07 (03:14):
No, no, no.
No, no, no, seriously.

SPEAKER_06 (03:16):
He's he's grasping me.

SPEAKER_07 (03:18):
How many times have I hugged you like really, really
tight?

SPEAKER_06 (03:21):
Uh many times, and you hold on a long time.
What's the limit?
What's the time limit?
For me, like a second and ahalf.
You know, like hey, you know,you know, then you're off.

SPEAKER_10 (03:30):
And then you pat me like a dog.
Pat means I know exactly whatthat means.
Okay, I'm done here.
That's enough.
Okay, okay, that's good enough.

SPEAKER_06 (03:39):
I'm good with the bro.
Yeah, but you hold me longerbecause you know I'll be
uncomfortable, and that's whyyou do it.

SPEAKER_10 (03:46):
I do mess with my own.
But I do I do like uh I havemissed you guys.

SPEAKER_02 (03:51):
We missed you guys.
Is the tour over?
Uh the tour is officially overunder the full thoroval name.
And it was a good one.
Just for this year.
The crowds were this year.

SPEAKER_03 (04:07):
It was a really good one.

SPEAKER_10 (04:08):
You guys look good.
You look you look good.
This tour didn't age you a bit.
No, it didn't.

SPEAKER_06 (04:14):
It was all age us.
Well, we were talking about itbeforehand.
The the latest jump that Kurthas on stage appears to be ten
to twelve feet high.

SPEAKER_04 (04:24):
Appears is the key word.

SPEAKER_03 (04:28):
But but don't let him fool you.
I mean, back in our basketballdays on tour, he he he can jump
pretty good.
Like it's pretty he's from Iowa,so everyone from Iowa can play
basketball.
It's just that's what happenswhen you're from Iowa.

SPEAKER_02 (04:42):
Right.
Yeah.
I don't know.
Angles are everything inphotography.
And hugs.
Yeah.
And is all I'll say to that.
Anyway, it looks amazing.
Thanks.

SPEAKER_10 (04:51):
I'm just giving Alabama hugs.
That's all those are.
I did go to Ohio one time withLavox.

SPEAKER_06 (04:57):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_10 (04:57):
And I did a show with him up there in it in uh
Gary Lavox from Rascal Pilature.
Yes.
And everybody in Ohio, at leastfrom his section of Ohio, those
people will kiss you on themouth.
They will too.
No, no, no.
No, no, no.
I'm not kidding.
This is from gay town, Ohio.
No, no, no.
No, no.
I'm talking about the women.
I'm not talking about the men.

(05:18):
I'm not talking about the men.
Not the bad bunnies.

SPEAKER_03 (05:20):
Jim, don't look at me like that.
You can say gay.
I think I think that's thecorrect.
That's the correct word, isn'tit?
I'm talking about the girls.
It's in the letters, the line ofletters.

SPEAKER_10 (05:28):
It's nothing LGBTQ.
It's nothing sexual at all.
But they hug and they will kissyou in the I mean, it was so
uncomfortable.
I was I'm hugging his friendslike from high school, and
they're you know, they're like afigure.
And they're coming in and I'mgoing, oh, oh, she did she mean
to do that?
And I'm going, whoa.
And no, and she's chasing myface.

(05:50):
Chasing.
She lands one.

SPEAKER_06 (05:52):
Oh, but now what did your wife say?
No, it's a girl.
What did your wife say whenyou're getting kissed by another
woman as a married man?

SPEAKER_10 (05:58):
It's like a it's all friendly?

SPEAKER_06 (06:00):
No, no, no, no, no.
My wife would not say that.
No, no, no, no, it's friendly,baby.
It's friendly.

SPEAKER_10 (06:03):
Lena hates it.
She doesn't like that.
Who would?
What normal woman would?
But it's like they kiss.
Most people they kiss on themouth, not a cheek thing, and
it's nothing like that.
It's like they pull you in andit's so good to see you.
And they plant one on you.
It's not a long thing ornothing.
Maybe it was just you.
No, no, no.
Did you see it was everybody?
Are you sure?
No, we know a couple of peoplewho saw it.

SPEAKER_06 (06:24):
Yeah, did you just play Fast Cards and Freedom on
the stage or something?
Because that gets them riled up.
That's no lie.

SPEAKER_10 (06:32):
No, it wasn't that.
All right.
This was all pre-show stuff.
Wow.
Pre-show in the kissing youalready.
It was crazy.
Hey, didn't you go toWashington?
I did.
I went up to Washington.
I'm sorry, I got a checks mix inmy mouth.
I went up to Washington andplayed uh for the Ways and head
of the Ways and Means Committee,Jason Smith, who's a good friend
of mine.
Missouri.
Yep.

(06:52):
Congressman from Missouri.
And he's uh he heads all thatup, and I went up there and told
him keep the capital gains taxdown for the songwriters for the
next four years, or I will pullyour you know what off.
So anyway, I went up there anduh we're good, buds.

SPEAKER_02 (07:08):
Was it just you or a group of people just me?

SPEAKER_10 (07:10):
I went up with Bart Herberson, head of NSAI yeah,
and sang for him and sang for uhMarsha Blackburn in her office.
She's great.
Our friend, our friend, she'sbeen on.
We'll have her on again.
Yeah.
And um it was a great trip.
And actually we were up therethe day that Charlie Kirk got
shot.
Oh my god.
And so Len and I, we werestanding at the rigs downtown

(07:33):
and we walked up, you know, fiveor six blocks that day, that
evening, right before right atdusk, right as the sun was going
down.
Is that dusk when the sun goesdown?

SPEAKER_02 (07:42):
Or is it just dawn is you're a hunter, you should
know that.

SPEAKER_03 (07:46):
From dawn to dusk.
We walked up to the White Housewhen we're from Dusk till dawn,
which is a great movie.
Yeah, it is a great movie.
The first half of it.
Sorry, Neil.

SPEAKER_10 (07:54):
No, you're good.
We walked up to the White House.

SPEAKER_03 (07:57):
Tarantino.
Sorry.

SPEAKER_10 (08:01):
I'm trying to say something meaningful here.
I know.
Please, please.
I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_03 (08:06):
He's just so happy to be off tour.
Uh no, maybe I I I love playing.
I but I love uh I love we'retalking about movies.
At least I was.
No, we're not talking about it.
We're talking about Neil.
We're talking about movies.
Let's go here, Charlie.

SPEAKER_06 (08:18):
Let's go let's finish.

SPEAKER_03 (08:19):
No, it's like no dawn by quitting Tarantino.

SPEAKER_10 (08:24):
We walked up to the White House that evening.
Uh the day he got shot.
And and it was it was very, verysurreal and very quiet, very
moving, very somber, and a lotof people were gathering around
the White House that night.
And I've got some video thatwe'll show uh that I took right
there at the White House, andpeople are hanging up signs we

(08:45):
love you, Charlie Kirk, and allthat.
It was very it was very surreal.
It's still very surreal.
And it was very, it was very umit was it was surreal being
there when that when thathappened.
But we just so happened we werethere when it happened, and um
but we got a lot done forsongwriters when we were there,
I feel like.
That's awesome.
And uh you got you're welcome.
Yeah.
Thank you, Neil.
So we're trying to we're justtrying.

(09:05):
Yeah, you know but but it's allBart Herbison.
We need to have Bart onsometime, the head of NSAI.
And uh we need to have him on sohe knows about everything.
Yeah, he's gonna be a good one.

SPEAKER_06 (09:14):
Very smart man and a huge advocate for songwriters
like Marsha Blackburn thatyou're mentioning.

SPEAKER_03 (09:20):
I talk about Charlie since he's passing, uh uh
Alvine's done something reallycool every night.
Kind of opening the show, theToby Key song, and then showing
Charlie.
It's red, white, and blue, andthen is a song.
Yeah and then it's Charlie upthere on the screens before we
play.
I got a video on the on time.
Yeah, it's really good.

SPEAKER_10 (09:40):
I've seen it on on the other side.

SPEAKER_03 (09:41):
Yeah, it's it's really and and we we did it a
whole uh since Charlie passed,um all the way to the end of the
tour.
So it was it was it was good.
Um people seem to reallyappreciate that.
So it's a little sad, really,really sad.
I know.

SPEAKER_06 (10:00):
Yeah, the uh the turning point is it's growing so
it is incredibly sad, but it'sgrowing so fast.
I mean all the new chapters outof the way.
It's really crazy.
Yeah, and um it's really amazingto see.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (10:15):
Can we segue into the bad bunny thing?
I don't think we can segue, butyou can move to the move to it?

SPEAKER_08 (10:23):
Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (10:25):
What is going on?
I thought it was a joke atfirst.
It's not a joke.
It's happening.
Is it bad bunny?
Bad bunny?
I told you.
Is it bad bunny or bad bunny?

SPEAKER_10 (10:34):
Bad bunny.
It's I think it's like MichaelJackson bad bunny.
Just bad bunny.
Like he's bad bunny.
So it's not bad.
It's just bad bunny ass.

SPEAKER_06 (10:43):
Yeah, there's not like a comma or anything like
that.

SPEAKER_10 (10:45):
It's just bad bunny.
He's bad bunny.
Yeah, he's a bad bunny.
He's a bad bunny.
Which I don't know what that is.

SPEAKER_02 (10:52):
Bad bunny?
Bad bunny.
Uh so yeah, to catch people up,he has been announced as the
Super Bowl halftimeentertainment.
Neil and everybody's beentalking about.
Yeah.
You love it, don't you?

SPEAKER_06 (11:03):
He's got three Grammys, I think.

SPEAKER_02 (11:05):
You love it, don't you?
Wind you have it.
No, well, he is probably theworld's biggest pop star.

SPEAKER_06 (11:11):
World's number one in streaming of all genres.
He's really huge.
No, easy is huge.

SPEAKER_02 (11:17):
Uh but if you just were strictly going off American
numbers, USA numbers, he'sprobably somewhere in the
middle.
Well, and it's football,American football.
It is American football.
But there, you notice the NFL istrying to deprioritize.

SPEAKER_10 (11:33):
You know what?
I don't blame Bad Bunny.
I don't blame him.
I blame Roger Goodell, who'swho's heads up the NFL.

SPEAKER_03 (11:40):
Now, but Bad Bunny did say he wasn't going to play
anymore in the United States,though.
Because of ICE.
Yeah, didn't he say that?
Like he w he wasn't going toplay anymore.
Except now he's going to play atlike our greatest sporting
event, you know.
Um Roger Goodell's to blame forthis.
I agree, and it's not it's notthe NFL.

SPEAKER_10 (11:58):
I don't blame anybody that comes in underneath
Roger Goodell and knows how towave their magic wand and
hypnotize Roger Goodell and makehim believe that this is a good
thing.
It's his freaking fault.
It's no different than a recordlabel head signing a numbnut
artist.
I don't blame the artist.
I blame the guy who signed himand who approved it.
And Roger Goodell is to blamefor all of this.

(12:21):
He's so out of touch with hisfan base and the NFL fan base,
and some of the players arespeaking up.
You know.
And and I think that there's achance that it may get canceled.
No.
No, no, no.
I I really do.
I think there's a chance.
I'm not saying it's going to.
I'm just I think that there'senough there's going to be

(12:42):
enough backlash that he maychange his mind.
Jay-Z has so much power overthis.
Exactly.
Why don't they b make himcommissioner then?
Watch what happens then.

SPEAKER_02 (12:53):
I'm just saying, since he came in, whatever it
was, 2020, yeah.
I mean, he the the statement washe was going to make the
halftime show more diverse andculturally reformed.

SPEAKER_03 (13:09):
So I'm so tired of this.
Can't we just have our sportsand just not think about all
that and just have fun and nosir.
You shove it.
Just let it let you can't.

SPEAKER_02 (13:18):
Just let us have our sports.
Okay, so my wife's here, and shehad this, and I've seen this uh
online as well.
She's here, Kelly.
Come on up.
Come on.
Come on up.
She said um somebody should doan alternative halftime show.
I saw that.
Yeah.
And I've seen it.
I think it's Brian.
It is Brian.

SPEAKER_06 (13:35):
Oh, it's the two uh contemporary Christian artist
and producer.
Yeah.
Um I forget their names, Frank,and uh the last other guy's last
name is is uh I think Queen.
And um But yeah, but go but goahead and just read that today.

SPEAKER_10 (13:48):
Somebody pay Morgan Wallen a ton of money to do
something that would be lineup,they would be they would be
changing the channel so fast.
Of course they're watching that.
Oh my gosh.
And I wish maybe Al Dean coulddo this.

SPEAKER_02 (14:02):
Oh believe me, he he would love it.
But you know, if you take on theNFL, that's that's pretty big.

SPEAKER_06 (14:07):
I gotta thinking about that.
Like and you think logistically,how would so so let's say you
didn't want to watch thehalftime show that's actually at
the Super Bowl and you say, hey,we're all gonna go to this
channel, like they'd have theywouldn't have advertising
dollars because everybody's paidfor the advertising dollars on
the for the oh they could theycould drum it up now.

SPEAKER_10 (14:27):
If they started now, they could drum it.
I don't know how they'd do itunless they could drum it up
now.
It's a live stream thing thatyou'd have to do.
It would have to be a livestream, yeah.
You know, that's what it wouldbe well ahead of time.
It would be it would be huge.
It would be.
How much money we got in in ouraccount down podcast?

SPEAKER_06 (14:41):
If we could be one of the advertisers, we are uh
and I have an update on this, weare getting really close uh to
breaking even each month.

SPEAKER_08 (14:51):
Really?
Wow.
Yeah, no kidding.
Yeah, yeah.
So set the world on fire.

SPEAKER_06 (14:56):
So feeling like I mean, we're at uh episode 76
that's dropped, something likethat, right?
So yeah, so yeah, we're close.
We're close.
But I don't think we have enoughto kick off something like this.
Okay, part of the time.
But I'm just asking, but I'mliking it.
I don't do I don't do numbers.

SPEAKER_10 (15:16):
But about numbers, I do words.
I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 (15:19):
Caitlin, what about like in our like rainy day fund?
Is there a hidden like what dothey call it in the in the real
business world, like petty cashor something?
Yeah, I've heard about businesspeople say these words petty.

SPEAKER_06 (15:30):
We're negative on the petty cash product.
Okay.
Just to be clear.

SPEAKER_03 (15:33):
Yeah, it's so not a big uh lump sum waiting.

SPEAKER_06 (15:37):
I do not feel that no, we we don't have anything
like that.

SPEAKER_10 (15:41):
I just want to know how you how y'all see the bad
bunny uh performance going.
Like, okay, so you know you'resitting there watching the game
and the halftime comes.
Just out of curiosity, you wantto watch it.
How's it gonna go?

SPEAKER_02 (15:52):
You're gonna sit there and not do you know any
songs from Bad Bunny?

SPEAKER_06 (15:57):
I had to look it up today, and I will say when you
Google Bad Bunny, a lot ofthings pop up.
So I mean, I mean, because Ididn't know I knew we were gonna
I knew we were gonna talk aboutit, you know, because because I
knew Neil's fired up because Ican't wait to talk about Bad
Bunny and I'm like, Bad bunny?
Who the hell's Bad Bunny?
So anyway, so I Googled it andthat's that's why I love you

(16:18):
Caleb.

SPEAKER_10 (16:19):
You're living and doing your family thing and
you're not paying attention towhat's going on in the world.
I love it.
You're not a worldly man.

SPEAKER_02 (16:25):
So what was the thing he did on Saturday Night
Live?
Did you guys say it?
I think it's compliments.
No, it's a compliment.
Big time.
Did you what he was on SaturdayNight Live?

SPEAKER_10 (16:33):
Yeah, I didn't see the clip though.

SPEAKER_02 (16:36):
He said something in Spanish.
Thank you.
This is good.
You can finish all my and we'renot using cue cards.
We're not using cue cards, guys.
This is amazing.
Uh but he said you better getused to it, right?
Basically.
So you're gonna watch it and youwon't understand the song.
Oh my god.
And believe me, we're old whiteguys talking about this.
I'm sure there are people thatare excited.

(16:57):
Old ish.
There are people that are gonnabe excited about it.

SPEAKER_06 (17:00):
I would say a lot of people would be excited about
it, and it will be of the NFLmaybe not doesn't line up.

SPEAKER_09 (17:09):
Well, maybe Roger Goodell's brilliant.
Maybe he's brilliant.
Maybe he knew this was gonnahappen.
Well, they are the curse, youknow they're just gonna be.

SPEAKER_03 (17:19):
Which I hate that too, is like taking games away.

SPEAKER_02 (17:21):
Who put Jay Z in in charge?
Well, I'm sure Goodell.
Was it Goodell?
Yeah.
Because I know the ownersdidn't.
No, but Goodell works for theowners, technically, so Jerry
Jones is not happy.
Well, just more money for theowners, yeah, the bigger it
gets, you know.

SPEAKER_03 (17:39):
So we know from Jerry Jones.

SPEAKER_02 (17:42):
They talk out of both sides of their mouth,
really.
Ed Werder being on, they justwant people talking about it and
look at us.
Look at talking about it.
Look at us, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (17:49):
Hey, speaking of Jerry Jones, I mean Dak
Prescott.
They're playing pretty good.
He's a quarterback.
He's playing pretty good.
He is, I agree.
I mean, right now he's aboutdamn dumbass.

SPEAKER_02 (18:03):
Well no, it'll fall off.
It'll be about damn dummy.
He uh he played good last year.
But until the yeah, yeah.
Until he didn't.
We'll see what happens.
Yeah.
Never mind.
I know.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 (18:14):
You know.
Those two guys you're talkingabout, it's uh Forrest Frank and
Josiah Queen.
Oh, yeah, Forrest Frank, yeah.
So if anybody out there knowsthose guys, we'd love to have
him on and talk about that.
That'd be fun.

SPEAKER_10 (18:26):
You think we could get Jerry Jones to come on here?
I think so.

SPEAKER_06 (18:32):
Probably not.
We might have to travel to himat least.
Wait in the lobby for the fiveyears.

SPEAKER_02 (18:37):
Not after Tully talked about him giving us
chicken for Thanksgiving.

SPEAKER_03 (18:41):
Well, I don't really know if he might not have had
that on if he pushed thatbutton, but it someone someone
didn't ring the bell that.

SPEAKER_10 (18:48):
Hey, I want to go back to the tour.
Okay.
The Jason Aldean tour, the fullthrottle tour that you guys just
came off of.
And I want did it go by fast ordid it go by slower than normal?
Or does it get faster everyyear?
Like football, like footballseason goes by so quick when
it's once it's a few years.

SPEAKER_03 (19:05):
It felt like we played four shows to me.
Really?
Yes.
It it was it started and whathappened was we started early in
late May too with like two showsor three shows and we're gonna
do Fenway the next weekend, andFenway canceled because of the
staging problem.
So it was a weird start.

(19:26):
And then after because afterthat weekend canceled, we had
like two or three weeks offbefore it started up.
Actually, we didn't start upagain until end of June.
I'm bad at this game.
Something like that.
Yeah.
You know?
But it was um I don't it didn'tfeel like we played we played a
bunch of shows, but it just wentby really it was so fun.
Yeah, it's because you're stillloving it.

(19:47):
Yeah, it was so fun.
But it just it did go by really.

SPEAKER_10 (19:50):
That's what I want to I want to ask the listeners.
It's like it's like because theolder I get, and I know that I
don't know if y'all are the sameway, the older I get, the faster
the days go by, the faster theyears go by.
Yeah, 100%.

SPEAKER_06 (20:01):
For sure.

SPEAKER_10 (20:01):
Is is that a normal thing?
Or is it is it is it that beenis it been that way for
generations?
The older you get.

SPEAKER_02 (20:07):
I think it's a pretty much a normal thing.
The older you get that thing.
I think so.
Yeah, right.

SPEAKER_10 (20:12):
Everybody, everybody, there's a con there's
a common consensus on that.
Okay.

SPEAKER_03 (20:17):
Well my favorite my favorite time of year is here,
fall.
Fall rolls into Christmas.
Oh, fall in Tennessee isbeautiful.
My favorite time of year.

SPEAKER_02 (20:23):
That three weeks are amazing.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (20:25):
Every in every October, November, and I've
always say, God, I can't believehow fast it went.
And it does go by fast.
It the year, the older you get,it just goes by fast.

SPEAKER_02 (20:38):
I know.

SPEAKER_03 (20:40):
It feels like I don't know why this is like it
feels like the last five or sixyears was just like that.

SPEAKER_06 (20:48):
I don't know why.
Yeah.
Speaking of that, um when did uhKeller did he grab when did he
graduate?
What month was that?
Was that May?
May um I found today in myconsole, in my Tahoe, uh the uh
you know the graduation thing,and then I've got a little
post-it on it.
Get him a graduation card, sendhim some money.

(21:09):
So uh if you're listening outthere, uh you sent Tully's son
some money?
I haven't yet.
That's Tully's got plenty ofmoney.
That's the thing.
Uh but but you got to send it tothe kids.
You do.
And uh thousand dollar minimum.
So he's gonna get a littlebonus.
We said a minimum.
It may or may not be uh athousand, but he will get
something in the next coupleweeks.

SPEAKER_03 (21:28):
You know how most people say like nothing over
twenty?
We say nothing under a thousand.
Whoosh.
No, I'm kidding.
Okay.
You don't have to do that,Kayla.
It's very start.
What's that?

SPEAKER_10 (21:39):
All the money coming into these graduates, these
kids.
That's a long time ball.
They don't know how to handlethat.

SPEAKER_06 (21:45):
It's a whole different ball game today.
Like we should get a hundredbucks.
They they get a couple pairs.

SPEAKER_10 (21:50):
I got a two dollar bill when I graduated.

SPEAKER_06 (21:53):
Well, for losing the two.
Confederate money, too.

SPEAKER_10 (21:56):
And and then it was like, hey, hang on to that.
Don't spend that.

SPEAKER_02 (21:59):
It's gonna be worse than that.

SPEAKER_08 (22:01):
It's still worth two dollars.

SPEAKER_02 (22:04):
Bonds from my grandmother.
Are they still good?
Really?
Yeah, they didn't age like that.

SPEAKER_10 (22:11):
I thought you were gonna say from the old railroad
bonds.
The kids today get a hundreddollar bill, a hundred dollar
bill, hundred dollar bill,another envelope, hundred dollar
bill.
Oh, they're getting twenty bucksfor the 30 grand before they
even go off to college in cash.

SPEAKER_06 (22:25):
I need I need to start over.

SPEAKER_10 (22:26):
It's like an NIL program for you know kids that
don't play sports.

SPEAKER_06 (22:30):
It's ridiculous.
That may just be in your bubble,though.
That may not be a good thing.

SPEAKER_02 (22:35):
Yeah, it's possible in our county that's a little
different than some others.
Yeah, I feel so shame.
But the kid is a good idea.

SPEAKER_06 (22:42):
Well hey, we'll we'll edit that part out.

SPEAKER_03 (22:44):
The kids though, they they they need that though,
because they're going off toschool and and they I mean
they're on their own.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 (22:51):
True.
I know you're thankful for it.
Gotta have that beer.

SPEAKER_03 (22:55):
The cash in the case.
I mean, it's it's it's great.

SPEAKER_06 (22:58):
Does it go to him or does it go to the parents for
you to catch up and recoup someof the colleges?
I don't do a recoup on the arc.
That's a good idea, though.
That's not a bad idea though.
I don't know if it's kind oflike in a like an advanced like
a built-in recoup for life.

SPEAKER_03 (23:12):
Listen to what we're saying.
Listen to what we're saying.

SPEAKER_06 (23:15):
It's kind of funny.
Uh Lucy's my 19-month-olddaughter.
For whatever reason, she calls abelly button a bum, right?
But now she just starts saying,like when I walk in a room, one
of the first things she'll say,whether you got a shirt on or
not, she'll say, bum.
And I said, I said, Lucy, I'mI'm technically not a bum.
I get an advance or what'scalled a draw.
It's not a salary.
And she says, bum.

(23:36):
And I said, again, it's tooclose to home, doesn't it?
Again, it's it's it's I'm I'mgetting the money now, but I'll
have to pay it back.
She's bum.
And I said, I'm out.

SPEAKER_10 (23:43):
You're gonna have to talk to your wife.
I think you might be too.
I might be behind.
Every time your daddy walks in,call him a bum.
I need to spend more time athome.

SPEAKER_03 (23:51):
Hey, it is good though, like the the college and
I'll say this because youhaven't set the money yet, but
this really helps out.
No, I mean it it it I actuallyand we give like all Keller's
friends, and you know, as muchas you he gets, like you end up
giving that much because yougive, you know, you give to
yeah, you know, 15 or 20 kids ormore when you I mean the the the

(24:14):
announcements just pour in.
That's too many friends.
And I got them from up home.
Like where I'm from, too.
Like all my friends sent metheir kids, so I'm like, you
know.
But the recoup that's not a badidea, though.
It's not a bad idea.
Maybe you should recoup at leastwhat you give your kids friends.

SPEAKER_06 (24:31):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (24:32):
I like what you're doing there.
That's pretty good.
Well, and and speaking of goahead.

SPEAKER_06 (24:36):
Speaking of giving, like I just learned this last
year because my brother did iton like uh October 31st,
Halloween.
Do you guys give away likefull-size Hershey bars?
Because that's a big thing.
Like to be the popular house,and you have to get there early
and you're gonna want the king.

SPEAKER_03 (24:54):
It's a big deal.
We don't.

SPEAKER_06 (24:56):
Should I do okay, I wasn't sure if I should go
with 'cause I didn't last yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (24:59):
Well, you need to because I mean you know, you
kind of you you did right trythat in a small town.
Yes, you did.
Yeah, and I think something hardto give out a small candy bar
when you're trying that in asmall town.

SPEAKER_10 (25:11):
Let me ask y'all something.

SPEAKER_03 (25:12):
Yeah, I shouldn't give the miniatures.

SPEAKER_10 (25:14):
That's the problem.

SPEAKER_02 (25:15):
Yeah.
What do y'all think about theZach Bryan thing?
Oh, so I actually don't know thedetails.
Give me the details.
Are you still talking about thefight thing or is that a new
thing?

SPEAKER_10 (25:25):
He just wrote some anti-ICE song.

SPEAKER_06 (25:29):
Oh, I had I have not heard of that, so I don't like
it.

SPEAKER_03 (25:31):
He's already walking it back though.
He is?
He's already walking it back.
Oh yeah.
What do you say?
I I mean I well, to be fair, Ihaven't like like read
everything about it, but I doknow the song came out and it
was kind of anti-ICE and anti-Who the hell is telling these
artists that's a good idea.
Well, he wants to be, he wantshe he thinks it's cool to be
like Bruce Springsteen.

(25:51):
So that's what he wants to do.
Really?
He wants to find a big thing.
It's all sad to me.
It's all sad to me anyway,because it's it's it's all
depressing.
But um so he took some flack forit, but he put a statement out
saying how much he loves acountry and he wasn't in the
military and he's walking itback.

SPEAKER_10 (26:11):
I don't know You cannot when you say the fading
red, white, and blue as a linein a song, yeah, and you're
gonna try to walk that shit.
He's walking it back though.
Sorry.

SPEAKER_06 (26:20):
But what's the context?
I wish we had the lyric righthere, because I have not heard
it at all.
I wish I'd totally hit it on thehead.

SPEAKER_10 (26:24):
He's trying to be like Springsteen.
He's trying to think I'm gonnabe cool.
He thinks it's cool to do.
He thinks it's gonna be cool.
Because he he doesn't haveanybody mentoring him and tell
him what he should and shouldn'tdo, and he's a dumbass for doing
it.
And he's not and he's listeningto the wrong people.
He he's out of touch with what'sbut he's doing great though,
right?

SPEAKER_06 (26:40):
I mean, we'll see.

SPEAKER_10 (26:42):
I mean, forget this song it doesn't matter what he's
he sold he's sold.

SPEAKER_03 (26:45):
I mean, I think he sold his his catalog for uh an
unbelievable amount of money.
So it doesn't matter.

SPEAKER_10 (26:51):
Is it all about money?
Is that what we're doing in now?
Is that what it's all about?

SPEAKER_03 (26:54):
I just think at some point I just think at some
point.
I know it is, but really, I'mlike some.

SPEAKER_10 (27:03):
But if you're not sure, but if but if you truly
love your country, you're noteven gonna sacrifice put
something out there just fornumbers and in a dollar bill.
You're not gonna do that.
If you truly are a patriot andyou love your country, you're
not gonna do that.

SPEAKER_03 (27:16):
I think he's regretting putting it out.

SPEAKER_10 (27:18):
I think that was what's why he's trying to only
because of the yeah, onlybecause of the backlash.
I don't know the backlash isgonna get it.

SPEAKER_06 (27:23):
I can uh maybe if we take a break, if we take a
break, we can read it.
I definitely don't want to sayanything about it because I
don't know nothing.

SPEAKER_03 (27:32):
I haven't read the lyric either.
I've just been looking at thebullet point.

SPEAKER_10 (27:35):
It says country star Zach Bryan, who usually avoids
political content in his music,has unleashed a new song ripping
President Donald Trump's POTUScrackdown on illegal immigration
and attacks immigration andcustoms enforcement, ICE, at
ice.gov for enforcing U.S.
immigration laws.
That's what he did.
That's what the song is aboutand against.

(27:57):
And he's trying to take theBruce Springsteen route.
I hope he trips and falls onstage.
I don't want him to get hurt,but I hope he trips and falls on
stage.
And his scene is ripped.

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SPEAKER_03 (29:28):
I don't enjoy any of this crop of I don't enjoy it.
Who do you like?
Us?
No, I mean I like a lot of youknow I you know who I like in
general?

SPEAKER_08 (29:40):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (29:40):
Or just newer newer artists.
I tell you right now, one of themy favorite art new artists is a
kid named Sam Fender.
And he's he's out of the UK.
I I gotta tell you, every nowand then like an artist comes
along, he's a young guy, he'swriting really incredible

(30:04):
lyrics, real life lyrics wrappedaround great music and melodies
and it's it's And that's morepop stuff, right?
I hate to even use it.
I mean it's not country.
It's not country, no.
But but there is a lot ofcountry artists I like too.
I mean I don't you know love alot of the uh brand new stuff.

(30:28):
Like I don't love Okay.
Everybody likes Zach Topp.
And I think he's cool, but we'vealready been there to me because
I'm older.
And so I remember I rememberwhen country music was that and
I really liked the like thoseartists.
And I appreciate Zach Topp.
It seems like to me was ZachTopp.
This happens about every fouryears.

(30:49):
Let me be let me be clear aboutthat.
I do think he's good.
He's awesome.

SPEAKER_02 (30:52):
Yeah.
And there's always thisnostalgia moment or people go,
oh my God, this is amazing.
This is traditional countrymusic.
And there's been a few artiststhat have done this, and then
they've kind of just eitherfallen off or become more pop,
modern country.

SPEAKER_06 (31:07):
Yeah.
I do like I do like it though.
Like and I hear what you're Ihear what you're saying.
Like we've we've done that.
We were just there not that longago.
But it it's I mean it it'srefreshing, and it's kind of the
same as the world, like like youknow, the old is new again.
It's just the way that is.
I don't think he will be anartist.
And I don't know him, I haven'twritten with him, uh, but I do
like his voice and his playingand he's having success.

(31:30):
But I don't think he'll changeand chase like if if the
traditional stops working, Idon't think he'll chase a more
modern country pop.
I don't think he'll do that.

SPEAKER_02 (31:39):
It seems like seeing a lot of those guys that have
come along.
Yeah, and I do like Zach a lot.
Yeah.
But I remember Party was anotherone, John Party.
It was like when he came out,oh, this is traditional country.
This is great.
Dustin Lynch, actually, when hefirst came out, this guy's
country.

SPEAKER_06 (31:53):
His biggest hit hit hit, really.
I mean, Cowboys and Angels, andthat's still probably.

SPEAKER_10 (31:58):
I just texted everybody in our thread, I'm
gonna try that in a small townthread, a picture of what
country is and what countryain't, in my opinion.
And what they're trying to forcedown the country music
listener's throat.
And I'm like, and when you seethese these two pictures back to
back for a new artist, newcountry artist of the year,

(32:21):
whatever, ACMCMA or whatever, II look at it and I go, I think,
I think, I think Shaboozy istalented for what he does.
But when you put him and ZachTopp next to each other, when
you're talking about countrymusic, I'm going, what are we
doing?

SPEAKER_02 (32:40):
Does Shabuzi have another hit besides the massive
one?

SPEAKER_10 (32:43):
No, I not that I know of.

SPEAKER_06 (32:44):
He does have a single out, but I don't know if
he's gonna be able to do it.

SPEAKER_10 (32:47):
He's got his own company going.
He's got his own label going.

SPEAKER_03 (32:49):
Yeah, technically, um, I believe it went number
one, the second one, but itsounds uh my biggest problem
with Shabuzi isn't Shibuzi, it'sjust I can't stand the song.
Tipsy, a bar song.
Huge song.
Huge, massive.

SPEAKER_10 (33:04):
Yeah, I've always told people I don't know what a
good song is, but I I mean Iknow what a good song is, but I
don't know what a hit song is.
And you can't argue with a hitsong.

SPEAKER_03 (33:11):
If something if something's that big, then I
must be the one missing it.
It's not my it's music'sobjective.
You're thinking it's like everysong that's not my own.
It's not my favorite.

SPEAKER_10 (33:21):
I'm just I'm just going when you when you have a
category of new country art newmale country artist of the year,
and then you've got Shabuzy andZach Topp sitting there
together.
I'm like, Zach Topp is ascountry as it gets.
And the guy is a freakingtalented dude.
Oh, yeah.
Especially on the guitar.
I mean, he's ridiculous.

(33:41):
I mean, he doesn't shade apitch, he's incredible.
You know?

SPEAKER_03 (33:44):
No, he's really he's really good.

SPEAKER_10 (33:46):
Like I I I wondered as a I'm but I'm going to go.
Here's a dreadlock, and here'slike a dude that's a actually
true country.
So why can't we have morecategories?

SPEAKER_02 (33:55):
Well, maybe that's it.

SPEAKER_10 (33:57):
Like a semi-country male act.

SPEAKER_02 (33:58):
We've had this conversation with the wards that
have gone on already withBeyonce winning and what was the
other one that was just like, ohmy God, are you serious?
So it that's not new.

SPEAKER_10 (34:10):
What do you what do our listeners think about this?

SPEAKER_02 (34:12):
You know?

SPEAKER_10 (34:13):
I want to know.
I want to know what they think.
Well, we know what they thinkabout the Beyonce.
I know that that's for sure.
But I want to know about theshabuzy Zach Top thing.
Yeah, at least.

SPEAKER_06 (34:23):
I mean you could have it.
Let us know.
Yeah, at least uh like acategory split.
They're so different, it's noteven like if you had uh pop
traditional.
Yeah, which gives you gives youa lane because it is it's hard
to to to vote on that's justthere are two other ends of
expected.

SPEAKER_10 (34:39):
Heavy metal is heavy metal.
There's no leniency there.
Heavy metal's heavy metal.

SPEAKER_03 (34:44):
Well, pop, but pop music, if you start talking
about pop, rock is is broad.
Rock's broad, pop's very broad.
What's pop is pop is very broad.

SPEAKER_10 (34:51):
You know, you can it's country used to be right
here.
Now country is like whatever youwant it to be.
And I don't know if that's goodor bad.
No, me either.
I hate it.

SPEAKER_02 (35:00):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_10 (35:01):
I think we have we should have our limits.
I'm just I'm sorry, but I do.
It's like we're we're allowingwe were the first genre to uh to
start asking pop artists to comedo compilations and
collaborations with us becausewe wanted to look cooler.
It's country.
We were the only ones thatdidn't.
I think they're trying to justexpand.
They didn't call us.
They didn't call country, theydidn't call Nashville, hey,

(35:23):
y'all come collab with us onthis record.
You know, they didn't do it.
LA did not call Nashville.
Hey, we want some of you guys tocome out here and collab with us
to make us look cool.
They didn't need us, butNashville got very desperate and
started calling LA, hey, what doyou think about this?
What do you think about this?
And once one of our countryartists got big, they were like,

(35:44):
Yeah, I'll go do that, just tomake us look cool because we
were that insecure.
Tell me I'm wrong.

SPEAKER_06 (35:50):
I think they've always done that like on the
award shows and stuff.
They'll always get try to getpeople from the pop world,
Hollywood, stuff like that, toto cool up.

SPEAKER_10 (35:57):
But we were the we I'm just all I'm saying is we
were the first ones to do it.

SPEAKER_03 (36:00):
Well, also, I also think a lot of that too is there
was a time a few years ago, um,it felt like anyway, where the
artists, the new artists we hadin the genre didn't want to be
country.
Right.
The artists wanted to be pop.

SPEAKER_02 (36:13):
I know.
That's a good point.

SPEAKER_03 (36:15):
You know, that's what it felt like to me, like
even when we were writing songsback then for some of these
guys, like, okay, well, it feltlike I'll use uh the FGL example
real quick.
When they came out, and I I loveboth those guys, honestly.
I really do.
They they came out opening forus, they were killing it on the
first album.

(36:35):
It was great.
It was it country and rot mixedtogether, it was awesome.
It was great, it was reallygood.

SPEAKER_09 (36:40):
It was great.

SPEAKER_03 (36:41):
But then, but then you know, saw Tyler a couple
years after that, and he waslike a hip-hop artist.
So we I I don't I'm not sayingI'm just using that as an
example.

SPEAKER_10 (36:52):
What is this?
What is the what is the Glockpistol thing that everybody in
country started doing?
Yeah, like this.
What is this?
I don't know what this shit is.
So that kind of like infectedus.
You know, LA infected Nashvillewith this.
What is this?
What are you doing?
Why?

SPEAKER_03 (37:12):
Why do you got to put this in the middle of the
house?
I know, but listen to me.
But language, you should feelyou should feel you should feel
better though.

SPEAKER_10 (37:20):
You got all these videos, everybody's doing these
videos, and they're doing this.
That's what they do.
And it's so pathetic.
It's so unauthentic andpathetic, it's ridiculous.
Like they're in the gang, likethey're in the blood.

SPEAKER_08 (37:31):
Like in that blood crippled in the blood.

SPEAKER_06 (37:35):
For all you people that are just listening to this
podcast, I would urge you towatch that portion of it.
That was pretty good.

SPEAKER_08 (37:42):
That might be my favorite bitch for Neil to feel
better.
I think that's a gun.
George Jones didn't go, yeah, hestopped loving her today, bitch.
Really?

SPEAKER_03 (37:55):
But now you gotta feel a little bit better though,
because now I feel like the ZachTopps, I feel like people are
starting to feel like it'scooler to be more country.

SPEAKER_10 (38:04):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (38:05):
Which is still fine.
It's just like end of the day,just put out good songs.
Please.
Put out good songs and and findyour brand.
And if that's Zach's brand,stick to that brand, and I feel
like he will.
Yeah.
So that's great.
Chris Stapleton's got his brand.
Love it.
Stick to it.
I love, I love Chesney, I loveMcGraw.

(38:27):
I love the main stage.
Yeah.
Because they've got their brand.
It's like it's like Al Dean.
Find our, and look, we're gonnado some experimenting along the
way, but like, just do yourthing and put out good stuff.

SPEAKER_10 (38:38):
And then and then it's when's the last time you
saw Chesney or McGraw do this.
Never.
It doesn't happen.

SPEAKER_03 (38:46):
But but a lot of those guys that are doing that,
like they're they'll they'llthey'll they'll kind of come and
go.

SPEAKER_10 (38:51):
They all got the same swing too.

SPEAKER_03 (38:52):
It's like you're right.

SPEAKER_08 (38:55):
You know, they're doing the video, and it's like
they tuck their pistol.
What the get really?
Get out of here.

SPEAKER_10 (39:05):
Freaking go open up for Bad Bunny.
Bad bunny.
Bad bunny.
Yeah, that's it.

SPEAKER_03 (39:11):
Now you got me send me down the wormhole, Kurt.
Oh my god.
Please.
No, I I I love I I do there's alot of good stuff out there.
I unfortunately, for somereason, in the country genre,
mediocrity can rain.

SPEAKER_10 (39:29):
It does.
You're right.

SPEAKER_03 (39:31):
And I don't understand.
That's one thing I don'tunderstand.
I'm not gonna name my own.

SPEAKER_02 (39:35):
But there's like there's like so don't make me
name this.
Yes, I do want to name it.
Mediocrity has gotten away inall genres, but I think country
used to always be quality musicbecause of the songwriting.
They didn't have it.
Because of the lyrics.
Now country has allowedmediocrity to have its day, I

(39:59):
think.
Where I think that's what usedto separate us.

SPEAKER_03 (40:01):
Yeah, I I really you know, we have a song on the
radio right now.
So I'm I've been listening tothe radio a lot.

SPEAKER_10 (40:08):
That's actually a good song, by the way.
Thank you.
That song right there is reallygood.
But here's when we do have asong out there.
That's a badass song.

SPEAKER_03 (40:15):
I like to I and I and to be fair, I listen to the
radio, country radio a lotbecause I want to know what's
out there and what are wewriting up against?
What is it?
And I was last week I I spent agood couple days like just
listening, going back and forthbetween the two radio stations
here in Nashville, and I wasreally stunned at some of the

(40:38):
songs.
I'm like, wow.
No wonder our song's flying.

SPEAKER_08 (40:43):
No, we're not gonna be aware of it.

SPEAKER_03 (40:44):
Because no offense, I'm not saying we wrote the
greatest song ever.
I'm not saying that.
I'm just saying I thinksometimes people just want to
feel something, and a lot ofthese songs, you can't, there's
nothing to grab ontoemotionally.

SPEAKER_10 (40:55):
Let me ask this was y'all's song, this new single,
was it the like the most addedhe's ever had ever in the first
week of the year?

SPEAKER_02 (41:03):
Not only was it the most added, and for people that
don't know what that means, anad means a radio station will
put it into their playlist andstart playing.
So there's a hundred and I don'teven know what there is now.
70 something, 1820, whateverradio stations that count as far
as the charts.
Yeah, reporting stations.
And it was the most added songnot only Jason has ever had, but

(41:27):
the label has ever had.
Isn't that amazing?
Yes.

SPEAKER_10 (41:29):
Now, now now let's let's talk about this for a
second.

SPEAKER_02 (41:32):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_10 (41:33):
After the backlash that try that in a small town
got, and the and the you knowwhat I'm saying?
Yeah.
Trying to kill it, and he comesout, and this and y'all that
song y'all y'all wrote isfreaking great.
I love that freaking song.
It was a great first choice.
Thanks.
It's amazing that he got themost added song he's ever had
and that the labels ever hadafter all the backlash that he

(41:55):
got year two ago.
But you know what?
You know, and I think aboutthat.
No, I mean it's like it's likeBut I think it helps.
No, everybody's starteverybody's starting to go, it's
starting to switch a little bit,it's starting to change a little
bit.

SPEAKER_03 (42:05):
The thing about Jason, which you have to I've
always appreciated, Kurt, and Iknow you do, and I think is that
Jason's very authentic and trueto himself, sticks by what he
believes, and there's nothingwrong with sticking by what you
believe.
I think radio people that maybehad turned their back on him, I
think they feel a little bad.
And it was a wee and it was Ido.

(42:27):
I think I feel like you feel alittle bad.
I feel like it was it got alittle out of hand.

SPEAKER_10 (42:32):
And I like that.
I like that theory.

SPEAKER_03 (42:34):
I do.
I just feel like it I feel Ifeel like the whole thing got a
little out of hand as far aslike the after that um try that
stuff.
I feel like I feel like it itgot a i it it you know they made
the song, not radio, but themedia made that song into
something that it wasn't, we allknow this, we lived it.
Which didn't even do anythingbut help it.
I just feel like radioappreciates Jason, I guess what

(42:55):
I'm trying to say.
They do.
He's so authentic and so rich.
But he listened to the radio theother day, I was like, well, no
wonder they all added it.
They're looking for stuff toadd.
I'm telling you, it's it's it'sit's some weird stuff out there
right now.
I think a lot of people are notsure what to write.

(43:16):
I'm serious.

SPEAKER_10 (43:17):
No, I think I think it's they're not sure what to
put.

SPEAKER_03 (43:19):
They don't know how to write.
Well, I'm just saying that theartist, like whatever's going
on, the the artist.
AI is doing it all for them.

SPEAKER_10 (43:26):
It's like that's that is that is absolutely
taking off, and it's hotter thanit's ever been for people that
don't know how to that aren'tcreative.
It's AI.
Don't get me we don't have to gooff on the AI train yet.

SPEAKER_06 (43:39):
I don't know about that.
I I don't want the listeners tothink that that because I don't
think you think that there's hitsongwriters in in Nashville
having really do their lyric.

SPEAKER_10 (43:51):
No, I'm not gonna talk about people that don't
know how to write a song.
I'm talking about those people.
They can put everything theyhave into the computer and get
get out a finished product.
All of them.

SPEAKER_03 (44:02):
But as long as we have artists like Jason, I'm I'm
I mean this really sincerely,there's always gonna be a home
for great songs.
I'm not saying it's gonna bethat that way for all the
artists, but you know, I lovethe Stapletons.
And Kenny puts out great songs.
Yeah, and I think you know Imean I really do think that
there's a there's a top-levelartistry that's going on.

(44:25):
I think my biggest uh thing I'venoticed one of the great things
about country music to me inthis genre is as an artist, you
don't have to be a Jason Aldeanor Luke Bryan or Kenny to have a
good career.
You can be a nice mid-level actand have a nice 20-year career,

(44:46):
put out great songs, flysomewhat not under the radar,
but in the middle.
You guys know what I'm talkingabout.
Yeah, like you know, we have oursix or seven huge acts, and we
have our 20 middle acts, andit's great.
That's what's great aboutcountry music because the fans
are so loyal, very loyal.
So they'll grab on, for example,like Billy Currington, who we've
known forever.

(45:06):
Billy will come out with he'sbeen out forever, comes out with
a song every couple years, has anumber one, yep, play shows.
Just a just an example.
Yeah, you know, absolutely I dolove you Dirks.
I've always loved Dirks, youknow, but he's had a great
career.
Generally, I think he's he'stried to put out good songs and
he's got his brand.
He's experimented.
Yeah, but every artistexperiments, every and they're

(45:29):
and we should be allowed to dothat, but I I believe that some
of the problem today is thesenew mid-level guy artists, they
are putting out some reallyhorrendous music.
And I think I don't think theyknow who they are.
Well, they they can't becauseall they worried about is views
on TikTok.

SPEAKER_02 (45:49):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (45:50):
So if they put something out, it's funny we
should be talking about this.
Because this week we're playinga show with none other than
Warren Zeters, who you love thatguy.
Oh, yeah.
It's not that I Y'all go hangout.
He's probab he's probably a f agreat fun hang.

SPEAKER_06 (46:03):
I hope he doesn't Zach Brandian climb the fence.
What are you gonna do?

SPEAKER_02 (46:06):
And just to make people uh understand, we the
tour is over.
This is just an extra.
Yeah, it's a it's a festival,it's a festival.

SPEAKER_03 (46:14):
I think he's a victim of having to gather views
and likes on TikTok versus greatsongs.
So if you put a song out andhe's in got a shirt off and he's
singing it into a hairbrush.
He's trying to make his labelhappy, he's trying to have a
career.
You can't fault him for that.
But I think what happens is youstart worrying more about views

(46:35):
and likes than you do aboutlyrics and melody.
Well, sure.
Absolutely.
And so and so you that thatbecomes the hit versus the song.

SPEAKER_10 (46:43):
It's a temporary fame that they're gonna latch on
to.
Which is so temporary, but butit could be huge.

SPEAKER_03 (46:48):
And they're just trying to have a career.
There's no fault in that.

SPEAKER_02 (46:51):
I get it.
Our musical history is litteredwith that.
Pop music, uh there's a reasonpeople say one hit wonders,
because there's a thousand ofthem.

SPEAKER_03 (47:00):
And look, if we wrote a song, if the four of us
wrote a song tomorrow, andWarren Zeters heard it and said,
Man, I gotta cut that song.
We're like, please do, bro.

SPEAKER_08 (47:09):
We're gonna lay.

SPEAKER_03 (47:09):
You're the best thing ever.
Yeah, we're gonna.
Put it out.
Yeah, we're gonna of course.
Everybody wants to make aliving, and it's a brutal
business to do it, trying to getthrough.
It's not it's not his faulttrying to that goes back to my
point.

SPEAKER_10 (47:21):
No, I was about to say that goes back to my point.
I don't ever blame an artist forfor their whatever happens to
their career, how big they get,or how whatever.
I never blame.
They're just following theirdream.
That's they're just doing whatthey've always wanted to do.
The powers that be that signsome of that shit that's out
there, they're the ones toblink.

SPEAKER_03 (47:39):
But they're signing it because they're signing it
because maybe it is going viralto an extent.

SPEAKER_10 (47:45):
Yeah, I get it.
And that's that's what they'reheld to the wall for that.
The powers that be are held tothat standard now.
I mean, that's the new standardright there.
You know, how many views, howmany TikTok, how many followers,
how many streams, whatever itis.
I get that.

SPEAKER_03 (47:59):
Which I do think if you're I do have to raise a flag
for uh Brook and Bow andAldean's label Night Train.
I I really do feel like there'sstill a place for artistry.
I feel like they'll give a shot.
We got John Morgan out therewho's doesn't set the world on
fire with social media.
Yeah.
One of the, in my opinion, oneof the best singers we've got.

SPEAKER_10 (48:18):
Absolutely.
It's gonna take a solid writer,also.
It's gonna take a look at theJohn Morgan's badass, man.

SPEAKER_03 (48:22):
It's gonna take a a little bit different approach to
get him uh because he's notgonna like dance in front of
this truck with the headlightson.

SPEAKER_10 (48:31):
No, he's not.
He doesn't have to.
He's like, he's like freakingTom Petty, man.
He's just laid back, he's gonnado what he does.
And so my point is like Al Deanwas he is exactly.

SPEAKER_03 (48:40):
So my point, there's a place, if you find the right
place, all you young artists outthere who uh uh Ben.

SPEAKER_10 (48:46):
Ben Gallagher.
Absolutely.

SPEAKER_03 (48:47):
We love we love we love Ben.
Works his ass off.

SPEAKER_10 (48:50):
Yep, he works his ass.
Nobody works harder than thatsong bitch, and he wants to work
even more.

SPEAKER_03 (48:54):
And that's all you can that's all you can hope for.
But like these guys, you know,they're not comfortable taking
the route that Warren Zeterstook, where you're just dial
into the TikTok and use somesort of social media all the
time.
It's but but some of these guys,I mean, they they find it and it
works and they do it, and that'sprovides kind of instant

(49:16):
success.

SPEAKER_06 (49:17):
Yeah, yeah, and to some to some degree, I mean, it
it is just different, like somethe artists that you mentioned
earlier, like the Chesneys andMcGraw and stuff like that, they
had so much more time to buildthat brand out there.
Yeah, but and now it's just itit's just different, you know,
and they're forced to put outcontent, I mean, just so quick
and so fast, and they don't havea a year and a half to write or

(49:38):
two years to get everythingright and do the whole album.
I mean, I think they're there'sa lot of pressure on the new new
guys because the consumers, Imean, music is so disposable
now.
You know, it's like it's justit's just all the like you know
the time and effort we all putinto to doing that, and you get
you know a 30-second listen.
Like you can't have acomplicated song, like like say,
Oh, we're gonna write a song atthe other day.

SPEAKER_02 (50:00):
How many times said, should we save that for the
second chorus?
Or and you're like, you can't?

SPEAKER_06 (50:05):
Yeah, or I said we'll we'll wait and we'll nail
them on the bridge.
We'll get but you can't do that.
They won't listen all the way tothe bridge.

SPEAKER_10 (50:11):
And once you when once you realize I'm against
bridges, and I will say I knowand it works.

SPEAKER_03 (50:15):
And I know we all know this, and and one of the
things we enjoy, and actually II enjoy having to to I know we
all do, enjoy having to kind ofbend a little bit.
So, okay, you can still write agreat song, you may have to hit
it a little square on the head.
You know what I mean?
You may not be able to wait toflip it at the end of the break.
You know, right?
You may just have to hit itsquare in the head.

(50:38):
You can still write a great songdoing it, you just it's a
different approach.
But I think, you know, I enjoythe challenge of that, of like,
okay, we talk about it all thetime, like, you know, writing
Song of the Year is something II I would love to win that.
That's the one it's it's hard.
It's hard to do it.

SPEAKER_02 (50:57):
I would just especially in today's climate.

SPEAKER_03 (50:59):
It's really hard.

SPEAKER_10 (51:00):
You have a song of the year in Ask Cap or any of
the CMAs, ACM, do you have Songof the Year?

SPEAKER_06 (51:05):
Well, I don't like to talk about it.
You got nominations.
Um But uh actually when the Ihave Song of the Year for, and I
don't know if the if this awardshow is still around or not, but
it's called the Music City TNNMusic City Awards.
Isn't that right?
You said that was a long timeago.
And at the time it was uh it wasI count and it can't pretty much
count but outside of that, justnominations and what song was

(51:27):
it?
Yeah.
Uh he didn't have to be a goodthing.
Yeah, Neil does, right?

SPEAKER_10 (51:33):
It got nominated for Song of the Year at the ACM as
we went to Vegas and fornothing.

SPEAKER_06 (51:38):
Didn't we lose up as an honor to get nominated
though?

SPEAKER_03 (51:40):
Song of the year.
Right.

SPEAKER_10 (51:42):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (51:44):
We lost Song of the Year to uh to oh, I forget.
Uh are you talking about theGrammys?

SPEAKER_02 (51:52):
Y'all don't lose I Didn't Love You was ever.
Well we did.
It was somebody oh it was umBrothers Osborne of a song that
wasn't even a single.
Yeah.
I don't think we know why welost.
It's fine.

SPEAKER_10 (52:07):
I we know why.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 (52:09):
Well, going back to to uh to me, um uh just uh nice
Caleb.
Just the other night they hadand you mentioned Bart Herberson
and NSAI, so they did have theCountry Music Hall of Fame uh
songwriter, Hall of Fame dinner.

SPEAKER_10 (52:24):
I wasn't able to to go, and I don't think you were
no I had a seat too because Imade sure I won I was gonna
y'all know the story.
Yeah but I won't go into thatanother day, whatever.

SPEAKER_06 (52:34):
Well, and so to so our good buddy Tony Martin, you
know, he's a man just abrilliant uh songwriter, uh Jim
Lauderdale.
Yep.
Um Steve was Bogey there, andSteve Bogart.
Steve Bogart and uh a coupleother people, but Paisley was
there.
Brad Paisley was there, he gotuh you know, he was the art
artist writer, and and BillAnderson actually performed, he

(52:58):
didn't have to be.
Oh man, which which when I Ilearned that for many reasons I
wanted I wanted to be there, butI couldn't.
But I thought I thought that'dbe really cool watching because
I really love Bill Anderson.
And he just said, did hewhispering uh I don't I don't
know.
I imagine he did as uh BillAnderson could see.

SPEAKER_03 (53:16):
Can I tell you my Bill Anderson story, which you
guys are part of?

SPEAKER_10 (53:19):
Well, I had lunch with a dude like like six months
ago in old Natchez all byaccident.

SPEAKER_03 (53:25):
I don't know if I ever told you this guy.
So last year we're playing theevent at the Ryman.
The was it ten songs I wish I'dwritten event that we were lucky
enough to win that and play,right?
So remember we had that dressingroom way upstairs?
Yeah.
So I don't know if only sobefore we play, I had to go

(53:48):
upstairs to grab my jacket.
Tell everybody where we're atfirst.
The rhymen.
We're at the ryman auditorium.
The church.
I'm gonna run up to grab my coatbefore we play, and we gotta
play, and it's like it's like 10minutes, but I'm like, I'm gonna
grab my coat and I don't want toforget it, you know?
And so I grab my coat and I comeout and I start walking down the

(54:08):
steps, and I get right behindwhispering Bill, and I feel and
he's he's very nice, and we talkfor a second.
And I'm looking at the timesaying, ooh, they're coming to
get us in like now.

SPEAKER_08 (54:23):
Oh no.

SPEAKER_03 (54:23):
And I'm and I'm behind him, and he starts
talking to me, and somethinginside of me wouldn't let me
pass him.
So I was behind him the wholeway down the steps, and it took
a minute.
Dude, it took between thechatting and just like he's
moving a little slower downthose steps, I barely made it.

(54:44):
And I think I told I think Itold you guys I got caught
behind Whisperin' Bill at theriven.

SPEAKER_10 (54:48):
And if the if the crowd out there would have known
that you were talking to Whisperand Bill Anderson, it would have
been final.

SPEAKER_03 (54:54):
But it was so funny because you can be as late as
you want.
I could have easily gone aroundhim, but I didn't feel right
about blowing.
I didn't, I didn't feel rightabout raised up right.
We went we went step for step,me and Whisperin' Bill, down
those five or flights of stairs.
No, it's fantastic, dude.
There's a and there's a lot offlights, easy, like four
flights.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_10 (55:12):
Did you make him carry your bass?

SPEAKER_03 (55:15):
No.
I mean, you won't carry it.
But I kept saying to myself,this is this is cool.
I'm like, it's just me andWhisper and Bill walking on
these steps.
It's amazing.
And he was that's like so cool,but I I couldn't pass him.
I was like, I might be late.
Yeah, you did you did the rightthing.
And I did of course I didn'thave a tech that night to tune
my bass, so there's that anyway.

SPEAKER_10 (55:33):
I never got to spend any time with Bill Anderson, but
it was like I was playing golfwith Scott Hendricks at Old
Natchez like six months ago.
And we get done with our round,we go in the clubhouse, and Bill
Anderson's in there.
He'd been playing golf.
And I'm like, oh my god, it'sBill Anderson.
We wound up sitting down withhim and having lunch.
And had a I've had a beer withBill Anderson, so I'm it's

(55:55):
another bucket list thing that Ican mark.
That's awesome.
He was fantastic.
That's awesome.
Yeah.
He's a legend.
Absolutely.
If you're a songwriter inAshville, that's like legendary.

SPEAKER_06 (56:04):
And still writing.
I know he's still doing it.
Which is amazing.

SPEAKER_10 (56:07):
I should be ashamed for wanting to retire.
Do you know how old he is?
I don't I don't know, but it'snot.

SPEAKER_06 (56:12):
He's gonna be 80s, I would have to do that.

SPEAKER_02 (56:14):
I thought it was late.

SPEAKER_03 (56:15):
Can you look it up?
I thought it was 88, but I couldbe wrong.

SPEAKER_10 (56:18):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 (56:22):
He still loves it and worked hard.
You know, 87 is still rocking.
That's amazing.
Looked like a million bucks.
Looked like a million bucks.

SPEAKER_10 (56:33):
It's crazy.
Yeah.
Amazing.
The Opry, there's somethingabout the Opry guys.
Keeps you young.

SPEAKER_02 (56:40):
The Opry keeps you young, man.

SPEAKER_10 (56:42):
The Opry keeps you young.

SPEAKER_02 (56:44):
Oh, I think we're yeah.

SPEAKER_10 (56:46):
Fantastic.

SPEAKER_02 (56:47):
What else you guys got?

SPEAKER_10 (56:49):
Dude, let me tell you something.
I could bring up more stufftonight and we can save it for
next time.
But I've got so many things.

SPEAKER_11 (56:56):
Well, yeah.
Do you want to end on somethinggood?
No.

SPEAKER_10 (57:00):
I want to end on something good, but I can't.
There's nothing good.
It's hard to find good things.
It's hard to find.
I want good news, and good newsis boring.

SPEAKER_02 (57:09):
Do you think we're ever going to get good news?
Or are we just is it just afurther and further dividing of
the country?

SPEAKER_03 (57:16):
Is there any I think I think we've been here we have.
We've been here before in thiscountry, haven't we?

SPEAKER_10 (57:23):
I don't know if we've been here.
No, we have not been there.

SPEAKER_03 (57:27):
But I wasn't allowed, but wasn't it, wasn't
it, there was times in in thiscountry when there was division,
maybe not the exact samedivision.

SPEAKER_02 (57:35):
But not I don't think it was anything like this.
Obviously, I can't speak to it.
Yeah, I don't know either.
Obviously.

SPEAKER_10 (57:43):
No, absolutely.
There's nothing like thisdivide.
You know, I laugh when I saywhen I hear people go, why can't
we just all come together?
And I I I literally fall back inmy recliner all the way back
laughing at that comment.
Why can't we all just cometogether?
No, it's a spiritual battle.
We're not going to cometogether.
The divide is keeps doing this.

(58:04):
It's like I said before, Jesusdidn't come here to unite.
He came here to divide.
And that's exactly what's goingon right now.
The divide is so wide, youbetter pick a side.

SPEAKER_06 (58:15):
I just feel like we still have to talk about that
one time because you've saidthat twice that Jesus came to
divide.
Yes.
But that that goes against whatwhat I know about the Bible.

SPEAKER_10 (58:28):
No, we'll look it up in scripture and I'll show you.

SPEAKER_06 (58:30):
He to seek and save the lost.
He wants everybody to come torepentance.

SPEAKER_10 (58:34):
He would love that, but it ain't gonna happen.
He knows it ain't gonna happen.

SPEAKER_06 (58:37):
There are Democrats in heaven right now.
I know it surprises you.
There may be Democrats, thereain't no liberals going to
heaven.

SPEAKER_10 (58:44):
I can tell you right now.

SPEAKER_06 (58:45):
If they stick to their guns, I know this.
They're not going.
When we get to heaven, we'regonna be surprised to see some
people and they're gonna besurprised to see us.

SPEAKER_10 (58:53):
You're gonna have to elaborate on that.
And we can talk about this nexttime, but you're gonna have to
elaborate on that.
I think it's a good idea.
You cannot be pro-abortion andstick to your guns and think
you're and think you're gonnaget in because that's because
that that doesn't that doesn'thappen, dude.
It doesn't happen.
You can't you can't have it all.
Then then it's a free-for-all,then.

(59:15):
If you say that liberals aregonna be in heaven the way they
believe, then shit, I can doanything I want to.
There's no rules, there's nobiblical rules, there's no
spiritual law, there's nothing.
I can it's just a free-for-all.
Just because of God's grace, I'mgonna get into heaven.
I can do anything I want to.

SPEAKER_06 (59:32):
Well, no, that's abusing grace.

SPEAKER_10 (59:34):
Like you're yeah, and it that's that's a whole
nother.
You know, people it's a bigtopic.
Yeah, we can and we can talkabout it next time, but and
there's I don't see how theliberal, the Christian liberal
is such an oxymoron to me, it'snot even funny.
I don't I don't get that.

SPEAKER_06 (59:51):
And as far as the far left ones, I I would agree,
but but but uh anyway, it is nota good thing.

SPEAKER_10 (59:56):
You'll have to you'll have to prove you'll have
to prove it to me.

SPEAKER_02 (59:58):
You'll have to show me, you'll have to prove it to
me because Alright, you guysbring your Bibles next week and
we'll Yeah, the little JohnMcCarthy Bible.

SPEAKER_10 (01:00:06):
No, there's supposed to be a divide right now.
Yeah.
And and it's happening.
You're seeing it, right?
I do I I do.

SPEAKER_03 (01:00:13):
Wait a minute.
Yeah, but we should all bereally concerned about that
because unfortunately, you know,we're older guys in our fifties
and we're soaked up in it.
And what I hate about it iswatching our kids have to deal
with it.
And it's awful selfish, awful.
Selfish of everybody to justassume that your kids aren't

(01:00:33):
being affected by all of it.

SPEAKER_10 (01:00:35):
Yeah, but it it all depends on what kind of parent
you're gonna be.

SPEAKER_03 (01:00:37):
Well, I mean you can it all comes down to that.
Here's the bottom line.
Like you we're all greatparents.
You try to do the best job youcan do.
Your kids are exposed todivision and hate.

SPEAKER_02 (01:00:50):
It's true.

SPEAKER_03 (01:00:51):
And it and it it's having an effect on them because
at some point we have to find apath to come back together
because it's just affecting ourkids.
You're right.

SPEAKER_02 (01:01:01):
And I know a lot of great parents, biblical
Christian parents whose kidshave fallen, and it isn't
because of the parent.

SPEAKER_10 (01:01:09):
Yeah, right.
I'm so I'm I'm really, reallyblessed that both of my girls uh
have turned out the way theyhave and believe the way they do
and think the way they do.
And I attribute it to backingfrom my wife.
I didn't ask them what theywanted, I told them what they
were gonna be before they knewwhat they wanted.

(01:01:29):
This was before they knew whatthey wanted.
Well, of course.
I told them, I said this this iswhat our family's about, this is
what how we were, this is whatwe're gonna do, and this is how
we're gonna be raised, and thisis what we believe.
I didn't say, I didn't give thema free choice until they were
adults.
Once they're out of my house,the the stage has already been

(01:01:50):
set for them.
And and you pray and hope thatit takes.
And thank God that's a goodthing.
That's what you do as that'swhat you do as parents, but you
gotta but I had common sense andthey saw that in me when I came
up.
They saw the way I treated mywife, they saw that I understand
their mother.

SPEAKER_03 (01:02:02):
But listen for one second.
Go ahead.
That's what we all do.
Proud parents, you raise yourkids with God.
But luckily, you and luckily myson's older, and your girls are
older.
Yes.
I'm talking about the kids thatare 13, 14, 15 right now.
It wasn't like this 15 yearsago.

(01:02:23):
There's a there's a there's asocial media problem, it's it's
poisoning the kids.
It really is.
It's them at this point of theirlife having to figure out how to
balance what you know what theyknow is right or wrong, but
they're still exposed to thingsthat I wasn't exposed to at
being 14, you know.

(01:02:45):
Um that that you know, even myson wasn't he's eighteen, so
he's a little older, but he canit's easier for him that he's
you know, he he they both knowright or wrong, but you don't
they're exposed to it and youdon't you hate that.
Yes, yeah, you you hate thatthey're what's when when Lucy's
five or six, what's it gonna belike?
Hopefully way smoother.

(01:03:05):
You hope I don't know.
I hope I I'm with you, Kurt.
Like, is it I I thought it wassmoothing out.
I really did.
You know, and then it just theband-aid got ripped off again.

SPEAKER_10 (01:03:14):
I totally get all that.
We were I was exposed.
I I look at the uh the the uhwhat they're what what they're
uh exposed to, what all the kidsare this next generation are
exposed to, what they have uhaccess to with these things
right here.
It's really I'm holding up aphone.

(01:03:35):
Is this a cell phone?

SPEAKER_06 (01:03:36):
Yeah, in case in case you're listening and not
watching.

SPEAKER_10 (01:03:38):
I I think back to when I was young, I'm like I was
exposed to a lot of things too.
And I remember having thedecision to make I probably
shouldn't do that, but I want todo that.
And sometimes I did, but I had aguilty conscience, and the only
the only reason that I had aguilty conscience about it was
because of my parents.
That's the only reason.

(01:03:59):
I wasn't given I wasn't giventhe freedom to think like I
wanted to think at 14 years old.
I wasn't it is it is differentthough.
It is hey, uh you know what youcan see vile stuff on this.
We had penthouse phone.

SPEAKER_03 (01:04:14):
Oh, that was way different, Neil.
We we had we had not even close.
You had to go, you had to go.
I had a fold-out Playboy, onecenter folded center food, one
picture stuffed into a puzzlebox.
Yes.
That's it.
And you stared and you stared atit.
That's being that's being a14-year-old boy.

(01:04:35):
You're there is it's you can'teven compare what these kids
have to get through and whatthey're exposed to to what we
did.

SPEAKER_10 (01:04:43):
I'm just I'm just talking I'm just talking about
I'm not talking about I'm nottalking about I'm not A-B and
Playboy to what's on socialmedia.
I'm talking about when it comesdown to a decision to make,
should I be looking at this ornot?
That's all I'm talking about.
I'm however vile it is, whetherit's on a phone or in a Playboy,
I don't care.

(01:05:03):
National Geographic, I don'tcare.
Should I be looking at this?
What would mom think if she knewI was looking at this?
What would God think if I'mlooking at this?
That was instilled in me at anearly age.
And it stuck, thank God it stuckin my head.
I'm like, even though I wantedto, I could get hooked on porn
just like that.
Just like any 14-year-old kidtoday can get hooked on porn

(01:05:25):
just like that.
And it's and it's it's a battle.
It's not it, I I hear whatyou're saying, it's different
because they can see itvisually, the the more violid
it's the whole thing.

SPEAKER_03 (01:05:35):
Well, it's more just the whole, it's more just a lot
of people.

SPEAKER_10 (01:05:37):
But it it all at the end of the day, no matter what
you're looking at, it comes downto a decision.
Do I need to be looking at thisand infecting my brain with this
or not?
It comes down to that at the endof the day.
No matter how violent it is.
I agree.

SPEAKER_02 (01:05:50):
And this isn't a porn conversation.
No, no, no, it's not at all.
It's you everything the evilnesslooks you in the eye and you
don't know it's evil sometimeswhen you're 14.
So it that it is uh it's adifferent road to navigate.
You can't you can't walk.
But I do agree with you.
Of course, as parents, you youcan only lay the foundation and

(01:06:14):
pray that they take that.

SPEAKER_10 (01:06:15):
You know what I told my girls?
I I told them, I was like, I waslike, look, I was faced with the
exact same temptations that youare at your age.
It's no different.
My parents told me the exactsame thing.
It just gets worse.
We have more access to viledepraved stuff on these things
than we ever did, for sure.

(01:06:36):
I get that.
But it's it's no different.
It's it's all about like if theyknow that you're on the same
playing field that they were,and that you've experienced the
exact same things that they'vethat they're experiencing now,
then they can relate to you.
And then then then it makestheir decision making a little
bit easier.

SPEAKER_03 (01:06:56):
I'm not worried about my kids' decision making
at all, just to be clear.
As a matter of fact.
No, no.
As a matter of fact probablywhat I'm most proud of.
What I'm what I'm upset at issociety and how we don't seem to
care about all the hatred likeit's not affecting our kids, and
then you the the parents can isi I've seen it where parents

(01:07:21):
they're raising their kids theywant to be hated.
They want to be their friendsand not their parents.
And it's it's it's it's really Ijust it breaks my heart to see
what these kids have to hear andsee and not we did not have to
go through it.
You didn't go through it wedidn't go through anything like

(01:07:42):
this and uh the Kurt's son'sthirteen.
I mean they shouldn't bethinking about politics or
thinking about anything exceptjust being 13.

SPEAKER_06 (01:07:54):
Yeah.
Yeah, it's not I mean to to me,Neil, it's not and I hear what
you're saying, and I both ofyour girls are amazing.
Like the old guys used to say,hey, if you live to be 25, you
got a good chance of living tohave having a ripe being a ripe
old age, you know, so you didn'tdo anything stupid and get
killed or something like that.
But but like this day and time,with with all the socials and
everything, in every way for akid, it is more challenging.

(01:08:18):
Like the Lord out Lord lead menot to temptation.
There there's more temptationnow than there ever has been.
Absolutely.
You know, like we had we we maynot have messed up as much, it's
only because we didn't have asmuch opportunity.
Yeah.
I think.
I mean, thank God.
I I'd I'm glad I grew up when Idid.
There's no telling.
There's no telling what I wouldhave done.
I couldn't have run forpolitics.

SPEAKER_10 (01:08:40):
I had plenty.

SPEAKER_06 (01:08:40):
But I'm just saying, part of your girls growing up
unscathed and they're andthey're adults and they're
married.
By the way, but my my saying isa lot of that, you're blessed
that that that that happened.
Absolutely.
Good raising, but you're alsoreally blessed because the same
parents, if you'd had threekids, one of them may not be
here, one of them could be uhthink completely different than

(01:09:02):
you, and you raise them theexact same.
You know, I'd so I just I justthink and I know you're a good
dad and Lana's a good uh mom andall that, but sometimes a kid is
just gonna do what they're gonnado and they make mistakes.

SPEAKER_02 (01:09:14):
And it just comes in disguise to me.
It's it's not so apparent whatis evil these days.
Uh there's like the thing onNetflix now.
Have you guys hear about this?
It's a cartoon, it's a kid'sshow, and it's basically
glorifying transgender.
And it's it's like I wouldn'teven think to think and look at

(01:09:35):
that.
Uh but you have to as a parent.
It's just there's more obstaclesand there's more things being
thrown at the kids.
Yeah, we didn't have furries inschool.
No.

SPEAKER_06 (01:09:45):
Well, that and the depression and the anxiety, like
at a kid, and it's you know andyou have AI that's talking kids
into kids.
AI is actually really scary.
Like it's it's being a guy.
Because that is the devilindustry.

SPEAKER_10 (01:09:56):
I mean, that's it's not yeah, anyway, it's a if you
can't take this little bittyfour by six piece of square
technology and take it away fromyou.
If you don't have the power totake that away and limit that
from your kid and and use it forsomething that's beneficial.

SPEAKER_02 (01:10:15):
Well, I agree.
The the phone, I agree with thephone, but it's everywhere.
It's it's on TV, it's on yourphone, it's in the schools,
kids, you know, everything.

SPEAKER_10 (01:10:23):
These kids today, this is their life right here.
Yeah.
And some adults too.
I do agree with that.
I mean, it has become, and it'slike there's there has I mean,
you gotta step in at some point,go, get your ass out.
Boys should be outside runningand playing till they're
sweating and muddy, till theycan't, till their tongues are
hanging out.
That's what we used to do.

(01:10:44):
That's what boys still need tobe doing.
Jordan Peterson said it.
You know, he's like, he's like,these boys today are so they're
feminized and they're andthey're hypnotized by this right
here because their parentsaren't making them go be boys.
Just go be just go be a boy.
Go outside and tear shit up.

(01:11:05):
Go get muddy.
Go and go, you know what I'msaying?
Yeah.
And they're not, they're they'rehooked on this stuff and they're
hooked on gaming, they're hookedon all this stuff, and and
that's all that all comes fromparent parenting.
All of it.
In my opinion.
Tell me I'm wrong.

SPEAKER_03 (01:11:23):
Well, there's all I mean, look, life changes.
I mean, things change.
You know, it's like you go,okay, well, the old days people
didn't have TVs and you had oneTV in the house.
Then everybody had TVs in theirbedroom.
Life changes.
Then you have video games, videogames come and they weren't
there, now they're here.
I remember when I startedplaying video games, I wanted to
play video games.
Yeah.
I didn't do that.

(01:11:43):
And then I started playingguitar and bass, and it's like
it worked out, but likeeverything changes.
Life changes.
Like, you I mean, you can'tcompare, it's just different
challenges.
The phone's a challenge.
Your kid may not, you can limitthe kid's phone.

SPEAKER_10 (01:11:58):
You can't.

SPEAKER_03 (01:11:58):
You can limit it and they'll go to their friend's
phone.

SPEAKER_10 (01:12:00):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (01:12:01):
And you start limiting, okay.
Well, you can't hang out withyour friend anymore.
Probably go to his spin at hishouse and get his phone.
That's right.

SPEAKER_10 (01:12:06):
This has become a pacifier for a lot of parents.
Yeah.
Just give it to them.
And they get they're giving themto them at four years old.
I mean, it's like it's that'sinsane.
Yeah.
For a four-year-old to have thisright here.
That's insane.
That's absolutely insane.
And it's a pacifier, so theydon't have to deal with it.

SPEAKER_03 (01:12:26):
I remember when I I mean, we only had one TV in the
house growing up, and then andit was great.
We'd all watch TV showstogether.
Yeah.
And it was a Thursday nights,Friday, it was a big night.
And you got everybody sat thereand you watched it.
And then, you know, you then Igot a little TV, then I got
video games, and you lifechanges and technology changes.
And you remember how to have aphone in your room.

(01:12:49):
Remember when I got a phone inmy room.
That was a big deal.
Because there was only onephone.
Now I got a phone in your room.
Oh, yeah.
I remember being 13 or so, got aphone, a phone line.
It's like, wow, this is amazing.
You can't add money.
You know.

unknown (01:13:03):
Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 (01:13:04):
But it was one line so you could pick it up and hear
everybody.
Right.
But I just think everythingchanges.
It's just it's not as innocentas it was.

SPEAKER_10 (01:13:12):
Life, I mean, I want more boys to go outside and go
kill shit.
I think there's a lot of that.
I think that's just go freaking.
Talking about animal hunt, wildanimals.
Go get a hunting license andfreaking dads.
Go take your boys hunting.
Get them outside.
Let them see what God created.
Go let them kill stuff.

(01:13:32):
You know, and bring it home andeat it.
It's so grounding, it'sunbelievable.

SPEAKER_02 (01:13:37):
Speaking of that, when are you going to bring us
some venison?

SPEAKER_10 (01:13:40):
I'll make some I'll make some more jerky, venison
jerky for you guys.
Okay.
I'll bring you some.
It's Christmas time's coming up.
I'll bring you some Godsustenance.
You guys ready for the holidays?

SPEAKER_02 (01:13:50):
I am doing this.
Almost ready for the Christmasepisode.
Amen.

SPEAKER_06 (01:13:57):
I only made Halloween stuff up yet.

SPEAKER_02 (01:13:59):
Jim Bean.
What's wrong with you?

SPEAKER_08 (01:14:00):
Eggnog.

SPEAKER_03 (01:14:02):
That's what we'll do.
Oh, I can't wait for that.
Oh, it's coming.
We're close.
Yeah.
I may eat more than I ever eatenon Thanksgiving this year.
I may set my own record.

SPEAKER_10 (01:14:11):
I want to see you with a gut.

SPEAKER_06 (01:14:12):
Oh, yeah.
You're supposed to be gettinginto your weight gaining stage
here soon.
You know what's unfortunate?

SPEAKER_02 (01:14:18):
I didn't get to my weight loss stage this year.
You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_03 (01:14:23):
You know what's unfortunate is that we keep
jumping, Kirk.
We've got all kinds of thingsstill going on.
Usually this time of year, likewe just close up and we can like
just start ordering pizzas.
And this we got showing.
Pizza sounds good.
Let's order pizza on the nextpodcast.

SPEAKER_10 (01:14:38):
I'll bring it.
I'll bring it in.
It'd be amazing.
I'll bring the pizza in.
We're gonna do it.
We're gonna do it.

SPEAKER_02 (01:14:43):
Let's uh let's thank Patriot Mobile.
Uh go to them.
If you go to Patriot Mobile, putin the code SMALTON, they'll
give you a free month ofservice.
Great people, great service.
Do it.
Great people.

SPEAKER_03 (01:14:56):
Come on.

SPEAKER_02 (01:14:56):
Absolutely.

SPEAKER_03 (01:14:57):
You know what?
I will miss seeing the PatriotMobile guys.
I know.
They've been fantastic.
They are the I talk about greatpeople.
They're front huggers.
They're gonna bring it around.
Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 (01:15:12):
They're amazing people.
They are.
Let's go to original GloryBeard.
Those guys have been fantasticto us.
And you don't even have to sellit to people.
Go get beer.
Go get original glory beer.
Who doesn't like more Americanthan beer?
We're involved with so manyPatriots it's not even funny.
And then we got give me what theEspaces.
Espaces has been incredible.

SPEAKER_06 (01:15:34):
We love the studio, love the space.
I mean, it's it's it's it'sreally cool.
They've been really good to us.
Pearl's been great to us.
And uh we're thankful.

SPEAKER_02 (01:15:42):
We hope you guys like the studio.
I think it's I think it's been ahit.

SPEAKER_10 (01:15:45):
I've missed you guys.
I love you guys, and I've missedyou guys.

SPEAKER_02 (01:15:48):
You knew you had unmatched energy tonight.

SPEAKER_10 (01:15:52):
It's been a long week, and we'll talk about it
later.

SPEAKER_02 (01:15:54):
All right.
Let's do it.

SPEAKER_10 (01:15:55):
I had a lot.
I got more too.

SPEAKER_02 (01:15:57):
We'll get to the on the bonus episode.
Okay.
All right.
Thanks for listening, everybody.
Hey, uh, watch on YouTube,download, do that for us, leave
us a comment.
Five stars.
We appreciate you guys.
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