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March 24, 2025 71 mins

When DC Draino (A.K.A. Rogan O'Handley) walked away from a prestigious Hollywood entertainment law career and a $500,000 salary offer, he wasn't just changing jobs – he was answering what he describes as a divine calling to join a battle for America's soul. 

This captivating conversation reveals the extraordinary personal costs of standing up for conservative principles in hostile territory. As a successful attorney representing major entertainment clients, Rogan created an anonymous Instagram account called @DC_ Drano to express his political views while maintaining his professional facade. What began as a secret outlet transformed into a life-altering mission that led him to sell his California home, end relationships, and move across the country with no guarantee of success.

"I truly believe God is calling up the officers of his army to lead the troops into this biblical battle," Rogan explains, framing his dramatic life change as part of a larger spiritual purpose. His story resonates with anyone who's faced the difficult choice between comfortable conformity and speaking their truth.

The conversation takes fascinating turns as Rogan shares intimate details of dining with President Trump at Mar-a-Lago, including Trump's special pretzel bread "with a layer of frosting" of salt, his role as DJ for the dining room, and how he introduces guests. Rogan also recounts his surreal experience being handed the Epstein files in the White House and meeting with officials in the current administration.

Beyond personal anecdotes, this episode explores significant cultural shifts like the surprising conservative tilt among younger generations and the judicial resistance facing the Trump administration. For anyone interested in the intersection of personal conviction, politics, and America's cultural evolution, this conversation offers extraordinary insights from someone who left everything behind to follow his principles.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
That's what a lot of these country artists need to
realize.
Like guys, if you actually havethe courage to do this stuff,
you'll rock it to the top.
So take that one to the bank.
That's what.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
John Rich has been saying forever when are the?

Speaker 1 (00:10):
conservative country people.

Speaker 4 (00:11):
I know John's doing a great job.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
I think I've heard that you've been to Mar-a-Lago
for a dinner or something.

Speaker 1 (00:17):
I've had dinner with him twice during the primary.
He's like you gotta try thepretzel bread.
He's like get the pretzel breadright.
And he, you know, in betweenhe's on his ipad picking songs
playing for the whole.
Oh, he's playing dj, uh, djright the whole mar-a-lago
dining room and you havebillionaires just eating.

(00:38):
And then he'll be like listento this part, listen.
And he ranks it up and it's likePavarotti belting out like the
loudest part of the song andhe's got it probably on 10.
And it's like I posted a clipof that song on my page and it
got over 300,000 likes.

(00:58):
Go support this song.
Everyone's coming after it.
This is our anthem because whenthe night was darkest when
Biden stole it I don't knowwhere this is being aired, but
that's true that song gavepeople hope.

Speaker 6 (01:19):
The Try that in a Small Town podcast begins now.
Try that in a Small.

Speaker 2 (01:27):
Town.
All right, y'all.
Welcome back to another episodeof the Try that in a Small Town
podcast Coming to you from thePatriot Mobile Studios Honestly
Got all of our friends heretonight Got K-Lo.
It's fake.
Oh wow, we're getting therealready.

Speaker 3 (01:43):
We got.

Speaker 2 (01:43):
Thrash.
We got TK and pretty awesomeguest tonight.
He is a former Hollywoodattorney.
He became one of the leadingvoices for Christian
conservatives.
What does he got About?
5 million followers or so.
You might know him as RoganO'Hanley, but we know him as DC

(02:05):
Drano as well.
Come on, drano, thank you.
Thank you, which is leading?
I think it's the leadingquestion.
Your mom probably calls youRogan.
Who calls you Drano?
Who calls you Rogan?
Where is that?
Where is the line?

Speaker 1 (02:20):
Everyone except my parents.

Speaker 2 (02:22):
Really so everybody calls you Drano.

Speaker 1 (02:24):
Yeah, even my brother a little bit these days, only
when talking about me in my workmode.
But, yeah, my closest friends,they just call me Drano, now I
like it.
Yeah.
No, it's an honor to be here,boys.
It's crazy to even hear you saythat I was a Hollywood
entertainment attorney.

Speaker 4 (02:43):
It is very crazy.
How did you West Coast coast?

Speaker 1 (02:47):
yeah, how did you?
Well, I moved to the other westcoast, so I'm on.
I'm in tampa now yeah, thankgod which I love.
It's got the palm trees justlike la, but without the wacko
libs you know what?
Happened is when trump gotelected the first time, the
first of three times.
California lost its mind and Iwas an entertainment lawyer out

(03:11):
there already.
I was working on the biggestmovie deals Harvey Weinstein
movies oh don't worry, I wasgoing to say.
I wasn't his type, thankfully,and yeah, it was actually a
really good life I watched a lotof entourage and college it was
like that made it.
I was like that's the dream,you know, and I was like I'm

(03:32):
going to go out there and dothat.
So I did, and it was.
It was pretty cool.
But then, once the electionstarted happening and everyone
started to just look at me alittle different, they're like
hey, you're not really cheeringfor hillary like we all are, and
I'm like I'm just neutral, youknow you were the silent
majority.
I had a maga hat at my house, uh.

(03:52):
But I kept it quiet because Iwas like you know, I've got a, I
got student loans, you know Igot a mortgage and eventually I
just couldn't take it anymoreand so I made dc drano like
anonymously on Instagram, like aburner account or yeah, yeah,
completely.
I was like I need to get myvoice out there and I recognize,
especially being in LA, thatmemes are the most effective

(04:15):
form of mass communication outthere.
Probably the only thing thatbeats that is country music.
I'm not even just saying that,but like that is literally the
soul of America.
If you didn't have countrymusic, people would kind of
disperse right, it, it, it.
Religion is number one.
I would say country music isnumber two, amen.
And then, uh, I would saynumber three is memes.

(04:37):
And now the memes are sointertwined with country music.
I mean that's a whole othertopic, but but yeah, that's,
that's uh, that's kind of how itall all began.

Speaker 2 (04:46):
Well, let's you know.
I want to get back to thatthing because that's super
interesting.
But since you brought up music,let's say that I know that
you've been out to an Aldineshow.
We know you from there.
Do you enjoy country music?

Speaker 1 (04:58):
I love country music.
I listen to the saddest countrysongs every day.
My ex-girlfriend would be likeyou sound so depressed with all
the music you listen to.

Speaker 3 (05:11):
And I'm like this is real music.

Speaker 1 (05:12):
Okay, there's a few guys I love that are on the
radio Al Dean's one of them butfor the most part I like a lot
of country music that doesn'tmake it to the radio.
So I'm a big Steelwoods fan,big Aaron Lewis fan.
So I you know Steel Drivers,rush Lowe.

Speaker 4 (05:32):
Okay, wow.

Speaker 9 (05:35):
He just threw a dagger right here, when you said
you like a lot of music thatdidn't make it to radio.
The first thing I thought ofwas Telly.
I don't know why.

Speaker 8 (05:43):
We made it to the radio.

Speaker 2 (05:53):
We made it to the radio I'm just kidding with you
and then right off, okay.
So then the next obviousquestion is uh, you heard try
that in a small town.
Did you hear the song beforethe controversy sparked up, or
did you only hear it when cmtdid their I?

Speaker 1 (06:06):
posted a clip of that song on my page and it got over
300 000 likes and I put thelink in my bio for people to go
buy it and I was like go supportthis song.
Everyone's coming after it.
This is our anthem, becausewhen the night was darkest when

(06:26):
Biden stole it I don't knowwhere this is being aired, but
that's true, um and it's notgoing to be on YouTube anymore.
Yeah, I'm kidding, but by youknow it was a very dark time and
people were looking for hope,and that song gave people hope.

(06:47):
It was like you know whatPeople were looking for?
Leadership, right.
And not only did that songspeak to what we were seeing,
with our towns being burned down, with innocent people being
attacked and with a bunch ofgood old boys looking around
saying are we supposed to?

(07:08):
we should be doing somethingright now right, Like what's
going on, but but a lot of uscouldn't do anything because it
wasn't happening in our towns.
It was happening in these bigblue cities where the Soros DAs
don't prosecute people, and soit was very frustrating because
it's like should we, you know,roll into these towns?
Should we, you know?
But it but it.
But it spoke to us and andthere's so few people at that

(07:31):
time that had the courage to tospeak out against it.
It's like oh you, you don'tlike BLM riots burning down
neighborhoods, what are you aracist?
It's like like no I am actuallytrying to help these
neighborhoods by stopping thesefires.
And blm turned out to be a bigscam.
They were buying mansions inthe whitest parts of southern

(07:53):
california and even blm.
People now don't even like blm.
So you guys were right and youhad the courage, you had the
balls to do that and youinspired people and you
literally helped save thecountry, because now look who's
in power well, you know we talkabout this a lot and I don't
even know if how many peopleknow this we've talked about
before.

Speaker 8 (08:13):
But you know, writing the song, and when we sent it
to aldine, you know heimmediately like this is what,
what we wanted, but to foraldine he he's the one, I mean
everybody the label pushed back.
They didn't want to do anything, they didn't want to put it out
.
No one wanted to put it out andit was Jason said no, I'm
putting this out.
So it's that kind of thingwhere he was that vehicle for

(08:38):
the song, the voice and hisfought, the industry, and it
really spoke to everyone, likeyou said, but it was a hard
thing for him to do.
Well, and you know, Because,they're saying don't do this,
Don't do this, this is going tosink.
And he's saying I know mypeople.

Speaker 4 (09:01):
We almost didn't write the song.
I mean it was like, yeah,because we thought nobody's
gonna cut.
When he, when he came in withwith the title and the idea and
I was like, well, that'sfantastic, you know, we have to
write it.
And and it opened when it cameout and the video did what it
did, it made some other artistsstarted, it started floodgates

(09:23):
started opening a little bit,with people like aaron lewis
coming out with am I the onlyone you know?
And things like.
Then people started getting alittle bit um, feeling a little
bit, you know like, yeah, screwit, I'm gonna start saying what
I want to say and what needs tobe said.
I feel like it was our song waskind of at the forefront of
that it really was.

Speaker 1 (09:42):
Courage is contagious and the butterfly effect of
what that song did to help wakepeople up and and I give jason
and britney especially, huge,huge props they have gone
through hell, yeah, a hundredyeah, with no guarantee of
redemption.

(10:02):
And we didn't know Trump wasgoing to win.
We didn't even know if he wasgoing to run again.
And they stood up first for thechildren and then for the
American people.
And you know, jason, y'all,y'all can ride off into the
sunset.
You've done everything you needto do to help save this country
.
You've forever made a mark andthe great thing is we can still

(10:25):
listen to the song.
I mean, you know, it's funny, I,I, when people hear that song
for the first time, that haven'theard it, which is a little
crazy at this point.
But, uh, I know people and I'lljust like get in their car and
they'll be playing it and I'llbe.
I'm like, yeah, you're aboutthree years late, but that's
good, you know it has stayingpower and it just it hits you,

(10:46):
it's, it's, it hit the momentand I wish more artists had the
courage.
It's hard, man, it's, you knowtully alluded to this.

Speaker 2 (10:54):
It's, you would think , country music.
The business of country musicwould be a conservative business
, but it is not completeopposite yeah, you know.

Speaker 8 (11:04):
So when jason puts it out, this town, this music
industry, this machine is left.

Speaker 2 (11:13):
Yeah, even though the demographic is you know very
common sense demographic.

Speaker 8 (11:19):
They want to go listen to music, drink a beer,
have a good time.
The hard-working people, thelabels, they don't.
You know, jason foughtliterally.
No one would do what he did,and even those who maybe want to
now won't be allowed to do whatthey did what he did, you know.
So it's, it's.
I don't think people we'vetalked about before, but I don't

(11:41):
think people realize, uh, thatthis is, this industry is the
opposite, it's, it's left, it'stough, you know it's, it's the
people that kind of pull thestrings at the top.

Speaker 1 (11:52):
You know a lot of the artists, a lot of the
inspiration for the music, butlisten, I worked at one of the
biggest entertainment law firms.
We represented carrie underwood, who was amazing and
conservative, uh.
And then I remember I wastalking with one of our
Nashville partners and I didmovies, but we worked closely
with the music people too.
And she's like, yeah, you gotto hear this guy, he's coming up

(12:15):
, he's like one of our newclients.
We think he's, we think he'sgoing to do all right.
I'm like, oh, what's his name?
They go Chris Stapleton.
And I'm like, oh, yeah, okay,I'll, oh, yeah, okay, I'll check
them out and like, yeah, sendme a song.
Yeah, this is like 2015, 2014,but I get it.
I get it.
And these are the people that Iwas hiding from in terms of my
political views and I, frankly,didn't have as much courage at

(12:37):
that point to come fully out.
I was posting these memes onInstagram anonymously and it
started to grow.
I got like 10,000 followers inthe first month and I was like
somebody said your first postwent viral.

Speaker 2 (12:53):
It was that you that I heard say that.

Speaker 1 (12:55):
Twitter, but that was .
That was a couple of yearslater.
But Instagram, you know it's agrind.
People ask me like what's themost viral thing you post?
I'm like it's just like alittle bit every day, you know.
Um, and I uh ended up making acustom t-shirt that said
Hollywood sucks and I would goout on the weekend to Hollywood

(13:21):
Boulevard, to Trump star on theon the walk of fame, you know,
and they'd be like there's goingto be Antifa protests and all
that.
And so I'd be like you knowwhat?
I'm going down there and I'dwear a Hollywood sucks shirt and
there'd be people getting likepepper sprayed.
There'd be like pushing andshoving Cops come and arrest the
Antifa guys, and you know I'djust stand there and then I'd
see myself on video on liketucker carlson, right, because

(13:45):
he'd be showing look whatthey're doing to trump's
hollywood star.
And then I walk in mondaymorning in like a suit in a
hollywood law firm and I'm likeI really hope no one watches
tucker carlson because theywould have seen me with a
hollywood suck shirt so I wasliving a double life for a

(14:07):
little bit and I was like thisis not sustainable.
Thankfully no one did watchtucker so it didn't get bad, and
I'm sure they would have beenlike no, that's, there's no way
that could be our guy like me,yeah, nobody hollywood.
Lawyers were in hollywood, um.
But what pissed me off is theseaward shows which ended up
being political rallies forthese guys.

(14:28):
They go out there and they'd belike you guys driving your big
diesel trucks you're ruining theenvironment and then they go
fly on their private jets and intheir yachts Don't get me
started.
You want to close border, youxenophobes.
And then they go into theirgated communities.
So I was just and I grew up ina middle class.
My dad's a fireman, my mom's ateacher both democrats.

Speaker 8 (14:52):
But we don't need to go there a different kind of
democrat, maybe back in there.

Speaker 1 (14:56):
Actually, kennedy, that's true, yeah, so they're,
it's it's if they were really,you know, with it.
They be like Trump is kind ofthe same as Kennedy, but um, but
yeah, so I, I just I had tokind of make a decision and I
said you know what?
I had visited Florida once fora friend's wedding.
I was like dude, I think I'mjust moving out here.

(15:17):
He's like, ah, we don't reallyhave like Hollywood movies stuff
.
I was like I think I'm going todo this Instagram thing, you
know.
That's so funny though.

Speaker 9 (15:33):
And it was like it was a little bit under, not not
duress, but you had an amazingoffer.
Right before you were thinkingabout making that jump you know
going to be, you know on socialmedia and be an activist and
everything, you got a $500,000offer and partner within a year.
That made you second guess fora minute, right, that's exactly
right, yeah.

Speaker 1 (15:47):
So, um, once I put in my notice word spread, it's
very small town.
Once you're at a certain leveland I people call me like hey,
are you looking?
You're like are you, you know,can't believe you're leaving
this place, just chat about it.
And one of them was a very bigpartner in the town, um, and
she's like let's just grab lunch.
And I was like all right.
And she's like where are yougoing?

(16:09):
I'm like I'm going to Floridaand they're like Miami you're
not old enough to go to Florida,uh, Tampa.
They're like what?
Like that is just crazy.
It's crazy to go fromCalifornia to Florida yeah, you
know, liberal land toconservative land.
And she was like how about this?

(16:32):
500,000 bucks and we make youpartner in a year, wow, and she
had no idea about DC Drano.
But I had been doing this six,seven years and I told her I was
like let me think about it.
And that was I was literallygoing to make no money, live off
savings with absolutely noexpectation of making any money,

(16:53):
hoping I could or half amillion dollars and be ari gold
entourage.
And um, I sold my town home,broke up with my liberal actress
girlfriend, sold my bmw, boughta truck oh yeah, packed it up

(17:15):
with whatever I could, left therest and just drove across and
and you are a country song Iknow yeah alder and
didn't have a dog at that time,but um yeah, just he's literally
gone country alan jackson itcalled me.

Speaker 2 (17:31):
Hey, before we get any further, let's, let's take.
I know we have some fanquestions and I don't want to
step on any of their questions,so let's, let's listen to a
couple of these, if you don'tmind.
Or you see what they got.
I recognize his first name.
You guys might too.

Speaker 5 (17:49):
Ed Frankovic from Maryland and yes, I know the
swamp well, rogan, you were inCalifornia as an entertainment
lawyer during the time.
Robbie Starbuck, who's featuredin episode 21, was a Hollywood
producer.
Did you two ever cross pathsthere?
Do you communicate with him nowon his efforts, given that both
of you are strong influencersfor the conservative movement?

Speaker 2 (18:13):
Ed's like our super fan.

Speaker 1 (18:16):
That's a good question Great question.
Great question, ed.
I did not know Robbie at thetime when I left LA, when I put
in my notice to quit.
I had about 50,000 instagramfollowers.
Um, and you know there, I don'teven know if robbie was doing
the activist stuff back then.
He was like a hollywooddirector, I think.

(18:38):
Yeah, um, and we do communicate.
Now I've met him.
He's awesome guy.
I am very supportive of what hedoes with the dei exposure.
Uh, anytime he has a newcompany he takes down, he sends
it to me and I happily postabout it he is a one-man

(18:59):
wrecking ball it's actuallyextremely impressive.
Just shows the power of of x too, I mean, but it shows the power
of free speech.
You know, that's why theycensored us for so long the
power of words.
The pen is mightier than thesword, it really is.
So, uh, robbie's doingincredible, incredible work.
He's another one he couldretire today and he's, he's done

(19:19):
his part.

Speaker 2 (19:20):
You know, he was so great to us he came on as well.
Um, speaking of censorship, didyou ever get banned during that
whole thing?

Speaker 1 (19:28):
Oh yeah, I got banned off Twitter.
You did For saying a riggedelection was rigged.
Yeah, they gave me five strikesand then I got banned, but I
was banned for two years.
Elon brought me back Two years.
Yeah, wow, yeah, two years.
Elon brought me back two years.
Yeah, wow, yeah, two years.
Uh, right after Trump gotpushed out yeah, that was

(19:49):
basically when I got banned and,um, yeah, so I had about
350,000 followers at that point,so they shut me down.
Elon brought me back.
I'm now over 2 million on X uhcausing back.
I'm now over two million on xuh causing a ruckus.
So continually saying thethings I was saying, that got me
banned exactly let's, let'shear one more.

Speaker 2 (20:12):
I definitely recognize that's me what's up
guys and rogan?
Hey, what's up rogan?

Speaker 3 (20:19):
what's up, boys?

Speaker 10 (20:20):
this is jason aldean and britney aldean.
Right here we have a questionfor you, so we wanted to know
what made you dedicate your lifeto politics, even though you
were such an amazing attorneyprior.
For sure.
And just kind of calling out allthe bullshit stuff Like what
made you kind of switch and gohey, that's what I want to do,

(20:42):
that's what I really want tofocus on.
What was the thing?
Man, we love you, glad you'reon the podcast with the boys and
I don't know, just firing you aquestion your way.
Yeah, miss and love you guys.
Wow.

Speaker 4 (20:55):
They took time from their.

Speaker 2 (20:56):
I had a double play we're recording on their
anniversary night, so they tooktime during their anniversary to
send in a question.
They call you Rogan, by the way, Yep yep, yep, yep.

Speaker 1 (21:09):
They know me pretty well at this point.
Happy 10-year anniversary,Jason and Brittany.

Speaker 7 (21:14):
That's amazing.

Speaker 1 (21:15):
America's favorite couple, literally?
You know, that's a greatquestion and I think it's the
same answer as a lot of people,including everyone at this table
, including people like CandaceOwens, charlie Kirk.
I truly believe God is callingup the officers of his army to
lead the troops into thisbiblical battle.

(21:39):
That's the only thing thatmakes sense to me.
I was sitting at work making alot of money typing on a
computer and I I almost likethrew up.
I was like I cannot do thisanymore.
I have to go do this otherthing, which is crazy.
I spent hundreds of thousands ofdollars, almost 10 years of my

(22:01):
life, studying legal, doing allthis and I just like I have to
go post on the internet andsupport Trump and I don't care
if I don't make any money, Idon't care if I get attacked, I
don't care what happens.
This is the moment that peoplehave to come up and I tell
people.
I was like I don't feel likeI'm in control.

(22:23):
I feel like I'm just kind of ona path that I was supposed to
be on and I can talk to someonefor just a couple minutes.
Talking to you guys, I alreadyknow God calls you in your heart
and there are moments youdidn't know you were gonna do
this in your life.
No one told you.
But you look at the firstRevolutionary War, the Founding

(22:46):
Fathers.
No one told them either, butthey recognized that moment and
they put their ass on the line,they put their signature on that
declaration of independence,knowing that if that didn't
succeed they were dead.
Yeah, and frankly, that's kindof what we were up against.
If that song you know, you guysput that out there if trump
didn't win, your careers wereprobably gone at a certain point

(23:10):
.
I mean it's.

Speaker 2 (23:13):
but you did it because you love america and you
did it because you love herpeople, and it can only be god
that gives us this courage andstrength amen so that's why I
love it was there an actual likebreaking point when you were
talking about like, oh, I got apost, or was it just a buildup

(23:35):
of like having to keep quietthrough that time?

Speaker 1 (23:40):
I distinctly remember the moment, december 28th 2016.
I was sitting in a chair and itwas a couple of days after
Christmas and I just rememberlooking on Instagram and I was
like I like these memes, youknow, like these guys are kind
of got uh, this is kind of agood.

(24:00):
You know cause, cause memes.
You followed the comedy memeaccounts, right, and you know
the fat Jewish and Daquan andyou know, and you're like this
is fun, like you know it'sentertaining.
And then I saw these likepolitical accounts and I just
wasan and you know, and you'relike this is fun, like you know
it's entertaining.
And then I saw these likepolitical accounts and I just
was like you know what, I thinkthey got something good, but
like I think I could do itbetter.
I don't know, you just gottatweak a few words here and there

(24:22):
, like I think you'd really takeoff.
And so I it literally justpopped in my head like I'm gonna
make an account called dc drano.
And the next day I startedposting while I was at work,
like on my lunch break.
You know, undercover,undercover, anonymously,
couldn't use my real name,Didn't have my real face, and I
got 200 followers the first dayand I came home and I was like

(24:44):
jumping up and down.
I was like to my liberalgirlfriend, who hated it, and I
was like I know, I'm ontosomething, yeah, you know.
And and I was we were talking alittle bit for the show like
how do you know when you, youyou nail a song, you, when
you're writing a song, you know?
Like I just knew, I was likeI'm on to something here and she

(25:04):
hated, she blocked me, shelived with me, your girlfriend,
just just online, or she blockedyou in all kinds of ways.

Speaker 4 (25:13):
Fully blocked.
Fully blocked.

Speaker 6 (25:19):
We didn't last too long after that.

Speaker 1 (25:22):
I didn't even know she blocked me and it was after.

Speaker 8 (25:25):
Christmas, so you just paid for a gift, I'm sure.
Oh yeah, terrible timing.

Speaker 1 (25:29):
Yeah, she's a nice girl.
I hope she's doing all right.
But yeah, she's doing all right, but uh, yeah she, she did not
like it.
I remember she came home oneday and she goes and I had like
two or 3000 followers at thatpoint and she goes.
All my friends hate you, by theway, and I'm like, really, I'm
like all the people that we'vehung out with for years that,
like that, had no issues, haddinner parties, had no issues,

(25:50):
but now I say, hey, I like thepresident, and they hate me.

Speaker 8 (25:54):
How dare you like the president?

Speaker 1 (25:55):
Yeah, how dare I like the guy that just got elected,
but, honestly, it's a good thing.
If you are in the wrong place,the universe, god, they will
make it very clear that you arein the wrong place.
You will get warning afterwarning after warning.
Things will be brutal and whenyou're on the wrong place, you
will get warning after warningafter warning, things will be
brutal and when you're on theright path, it will flow like

(26:16):
water and there will beadversity, there will be
challenges, but you will havethings come into your life that
save you at just the rightmoment.
I have had this complete senseof calm about money or being
okay.
I just say I mean, it's inGod's hands and anytime I need a

(26:38):
deal will come through andit'll like give me a break.
You know like it'll.
It'll be what I need and youknow, to be honest, at this
point, making more money than Ineed to stay afloat.
But for years it was, it was,it was difficult and I would
just lay there sometimes, lookat the ceiling, like what the
hell am I doing?
Like did I really just quit andsell everything and move to a

(27:00):
new city where I barely knowanyone to post memes on
Instagram?
Like as a 32 year old man witha law degree.
I know right, law degree.

Speaker 4 (27:10):
I just turned down half a million dollars.
With a law degree, I know rightlaw degree.

Speaker 1 (27:14):
I just turned down half a million dollars in a
partnership and I just was likeI can't help it, I gotta keep
going.
I don't know, I just couldn't.

Speaker 9 (27:23):
It's psychotic crazy enough to work right yeah, but I
just I don't care.

Speaker 1 (27:29):
I don't care about money.
I was like we gotta save thiscountry.
That's what's interesting to me, I think when.
But I just I was like I don'tcare.

Speaker 8 (27:34):
I don't care about money.
I was like we got to save thiscountry.
That's what's interesting to me, I think, when you meet people
and some people have the abilityto just accept the terrible
norm and just let it beat themdown and then people like
yourself, it hits enough.
It means enough to say you knowwhat, this is bigger than me,

(27:56):
and that that's that's whatalways inspires me and us is
just people that, like an aldinewho can say you know what this
could hurt, people are sayingit's going to kill my career,
but it means enough where I needto do it, and that's what you
did, which I think is is forpeople listening.
I think that's what you did,which I think is for people
listening.
I think that makes a difference, you know 100%.

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Thras, we got TK and of coursewe got DC Drano.
So I was thinking of the ironyof that.

(30:04):
Like you created this burneraccount so no one would know
your name, dc Drano, but noweverybody knows your name as dc
drano.
Was there a moment that youwere like, ah, screw it.

Speaker 1 (30:15):
Like, this is who I am uh, yeah, once I left
california, yeah, once I left mycareer, I I put my name out
there because at the time Iowned a house and, um, that's
public record when your name'son there and I didn't know in
advance I was gonna be doingthis or put in a trust or
whatever.
And I had a friend that left aTrump rally in the LA area, got

(30:37):
stabbed nine times and he almostdied.
And ever since that night thatwas like early days, drano and
I've, you know, slept with a gunnearby ever since.
And it's, it's just that's.
That's kind of part of the riskyou take.
And now we're seeing a bunch ofMAGA voices are getting swatted

(30:58):
.
It's unbelievable.
You know that's attemptedmurder, yeah, yeah, um, and I
had to talk with my family say,hey, cops, show up, play it cool
.
You know it's the cops, it'snot someone else with a bunch.
You know, because, like,they're going after their
families too.
So, I mean, and trump got shotin the ear and almost in the

(31:20):
head.

Speaker 8 (31:20):
We're an inch away from a completely different
historic path just a turn, justa random turn of the head and
time out of the head one inchone inch, and he don't even try
and convince me.

Speaker 1 (31:34):
He's not, you know, blessed by god.
I mean it's, it's, it's.
We watched.
That's when I knew we weregonna win.
God wants to save this country,that's right we were watching
that live.

Speaker 2 (31:45):
We were on the road.
We're about to yeah, we'reabout to go do this vip thing
where we play acoustic for 15minutes and fox was on, so we're
watching the rally, saw it livego down and unbelievable.
Which reminds me.
I saw one of your tweets andthis is interesting to me.
I'm not a conspiracy theorist,but sometimes people you have to
go.
Hmm, you tweeted, I shouldbring it up, but it's something

(32:08):
like in five years, cnn hasnever shown a live president.
I saw that, yeah, and then youcan do.

Speaker 1 (32:16):
Ask Grok the AI.
Yeah, and I said, yeah, thatwas the only one they showed
live, Like most of it showed itlive and they use high def
cameras.
And CNN says, well, because wewere thinking he was going to
potentially announce his vicepresidential pick, and I'm like
he makes big announcements everyother speech yeah, what are you
talking about?
You know?

(32:37):
uh, cnn was also there whenroger stone was arrested early
morning raid by the fbi if youthink that the inner workings of
our government is notcommunicating with these media
outlets to coordinate things,then you don't know what's going
on.
Um, so the question is, whatdid they know?
And I said subpoena theirrecords, right, because we know

(33:00):
almost nothing about thisshooter.
They didn't even they went tohis house.
The silver was gone, what?
And then the parents.
They come from a very middleclass background.
They have the most high-pric,priced attorneys in Pennsylvania
.
Trump even calls it out.
He's going how do they havethese?
You know $1,000 an hourattorneys and they're just
regular, you know.
So we still don't have a lot ofanswers.

(33:23):
And he had foreign messagingapps on his phone, right, right,
how the hell did he get up onthat roof with the gun?
People are yelling.
He's got a gun, the cops didn'tdo anything.
I mean, it reeks and yelling.
He's got a gun.
And secret service still letsTrump come out on stage, right,

(33:45):
one thing after.
And then you look at half thesecret service agents protecting
them.
There are five foot five womenducking.
Five foot five women duckingright.
Five foot five and ducking.
You know it, it just it justreeks of.
And then, oh, we didn't haveenough secret service assets.
But they got 16, 12, 12 secretservice agents protecting hunter

(34:06):
biden over in south africa onvacation and his sister.
You know, trump just cut,canceled that.
So everything reeks, everythingreeks and but we have the dream
team.
We got cash patel in, I wouldlove cash.
We got dan bongino in right, uh, pam bonnie, I know, is doing a
good job.
I know people are frustrated.
It takes time to to clean outthe rot and to build airtight

(34:32):
and uh, uh prosecutions, becausethe people that she's going to
be going after are the mostpowerful people in the country
and they do pay for thosethousand dollar an hour
attorneys.
So, uh, I would say I just readan article today.
You know, I don't know.

(34:53):
Know the Epstein files, right?

Speaker 2 (34:55):
Yeah, I was getting ready to ask.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (34:58):
I was getting ready to ask.

Speaker 9 (35:00):
What's your first try ?

Speaker 4 (35:01):
Anything you can share.

Speaker 8 (35:07):
Do you have it with you?

Speaker 1 (35:08):
Yeah, I didn't bring it because unfortunately there
was nothing good in there, uh,which we didn't know at the time
.
So, yes, the epstein files.
I was there for that.
Uh, we'll call it a debacle.

Speaker 4 (35:20):
When you say nothing, good, what do you mean?

Speaker 1 (35:22):
nothing there was.
There was no list of you knowclients per se.
They had the flight logs.
It was stuff that had been outover 10, 15 years, right, which
I had it for less than an hourand didn't even, you know,
wasn't able to like, assess andgo through 300 pages
cross-reference with everythingover the last 12 years.
But, uh, I was handed thatbinder by the attorney general

(35:45):
of the united states, with thefbi director sitting across from
me, after I just met withpresident Trump in the oval
office.
I was shaking, I was like giddyuh, not giddy, I was, I was, I
was, I was literally lightheaded, cause we were there to meet
with vice president JD Vance,and we did, and and there was 10

(36:10):
of us there, it was like, uh,jack Posobiec, libs of TikTok,
mike Cernovich, some biginfluencer types, and JD Vance
came in.
We met with Caroline Leavitt,who's doing a great job.
Jd Vance is the man by the wayhe would be even more down to
earth than me.
Like he's, he's a.

(36:31):
He's a good old boy from Ohio.

Speaker 2 (36:33):
He was supposed to come to a show and of course
this was during the when theywere doing rallies and he
couldn't.

Speaker 8 (36:38):
But everything I've heard is he's awesome even since
his first book came out yearsago.
Like I, was a fan of his.

Speaker 1 (36:45):
It was amazing.
He's as real as it gets.
And the one thing I really he'sbrilliant he's super down to
earth is he is curious.
He's intellectually curiousbecause you remember, back in
like 2016, he was not a bigtrump guy and part of a lot of
people were hesitant.

(37:05):
They're like this guy wasn't.
He's all trump, he's all magaand he's constantly like
learning and like he's likeTrump.
He's all MAGA and he'sconstantly like learning and
like he's like yes, yes,actually.
So there's.
I really liked that.
No, we don't need to be perfect, but you know, as long as
you're on the right path, sohe's.
He's amazing.
They brought in Marco Rubio,secretary of state.
We're sitting in the Rooseveltoffice, right and it's just, and

(37:37):
they never told us who was evencoming.
Opens the door.
Trump walks in.
Hey, everybody, how you doing?
We're like yes, sir, standingup.
I'm just trying to not like youknow, mess up.
He's like why don't you guyscome into the oval office?
I gotta take a call.
Secretary general of nato.
But after that, come on in, youguys bring him in yes sir.
Yes sir, we'll bring a diet cokeokay, yeah, literally um, and,

(37:59):
and there's just something abouttalking with the president in
the white house.
It's, it's just no, it'shistoric, uh, and I'm sure you
guys have met trump at thispoint.
It's, he's as the same on TV ashe is in person.

Speaker 2 (38:13):
We say that all the time.
It's like people ask what'sTrump like?
He's exactly what you think heis.
He's exactly.

Speaker 1 (38:18):
He's such a good guy, so down to earth, crazy that
he's a billionaire.
But he's as if he's likeshoveled dirt growing up.
But there's just somethingabout being in that White House
and I had never personally beenin the oval office before.
I've been to the white house afew times, never been there.

(38:39):
So we go in there, you know, wemeet with him, take a picture
behind the resolute desk.
I mean it's, it's everything is.
It's.
In that room was almost hisentire cabinet cia director, nsa
mike waltz, k Kash Patel, pamBondi, all these people right.
And then we go back in the roomand you know Pam and Kash came

(39:02):
in and they come in with a boxfull of binders.
She goes we have a surprise foryou guys and she pulls out
these and says Epstein files.
And I'm like huh.

Speaker 9 (39:14):
What Party favors?

Speaker 1 (39:19):
10 minutes away from that part, Hands them out and
I'm just like, I just want to belike yeah right, no kidding.
But they're talking, and thenRFK Jr comes in oh man, marco
Rubio.
And then they let us.
They're like, all right, we'regoing to leave.

(39:39):
And I'm like, oh, thank God,like I really want to.
And as we walk out the door, 50reporters right there, cameras
like, lined up like theRevolutionary War soldiers.
Like three rows and it's justlike click, click, click, click
and they, they saw everythingright and I was just like yeah

(40:01):
this is what's coming outbecause pam bonnie had said the
night before and jesse waterswere releasing the epstein file
smile, I can't believe what wegot on my desk and I'm like here
it is Ended up going a littlebit viral and then one time he
didn't want it to go.

(40:22):
Yeah, you know, I I do try tokeep a lower profile, to be
honest.
And and what we underestimatedwas how it appeared to other
people.
And what it appeared to otherpeople is that we were given
early access to this.
We were the one we coordinatedthis weeks in advance, all this

(40:43):
stuff.
No, this was a completesurprise.
And what was public information?
Is that the information wasgoing to be released.
At noon it was already like1215.
At that point I thought it wasalready out.
I was like, yeah, we got a, wegot a printed copy of what
everyone already is seeing, umand and so you know.

(41:04):
And then it turns out there isa bunch of documents hidden in
the New York office and she senta letter saying and then they
came the next day at 8 am in abig truck.
So it's just kind of, andthey're still investigating at
this point.
I read an article today saidthey have close to a thousand
fbi agents going through all thef the epstein documents right

(41:27):
now to figure out, like, what'sgoing to be released.
And you know, I, I, I mean, Idon't know why they don't just
release it all but um.
But I do think you know thisadministration is moving at
lightning speed.
They know they got four yearsand counting right and mistakes
are going to be made.
Things are gonna get.
They're not going to go asexactly as planned, so I still

(41:51):
give them a lot of credit.
I think they're doing aphenomenal job.
If I have to take a little heatin the short term to help be
transparent against the mostevil, powerful sex trafficking
client lists ever, that's fine.
It's messy.
The deep state is going to comeafter anyone trying to take it
down.
So that's just part of the partof the game wow, um, we didn't

(42:16):
get our, our copy.

Speaker 9 (42:17):
No, I didn't get my vendor I think did that come in?
But we don't go to the po boxevery day.

Speaker 2 (42:26):
They get lost with some merch I know, I think it's
it's fascinating to me that,like your job I mean, this is
how you make money is to postand do all this, right it's, do
you?
Don't get sundays off?
You don't get christmas off?
You don't take a vacation thisyear, every day, right?
Do you ever take a mentalhealth?

Speaker 1 (42:49):
break.
Honestly, I say I tell peoplework is my vacation and vacation
is my work.
Um, I just I don't know ifanyone watches this has a
belgian malinois.
It's a working dog.
It's gotta work, otherwiseit'll just tear stuff up.
I need to be working and it's alittle bit of a personality

(43:09):
flaw, probably.
You know I don't spend as muchtime on, you know, smelling the
roses, and I can always spendmore time with family.
I love my family and my friends, but I just am built to do this
, so is it literally like you're.

Speaker 2 (43:24):
It's every day right.

Speaker 1 (43:26):
Yeah, I mean that's what you got.
My employee over here, myamazing operations manager, I
mean, yeah, it's seven days a aweek, but it's just what I want
to do.
Yeah, and I mean we kind of alldo it anyway.
Right, like, yeah, name a daythat you're not on your phone.
Yeah, right, you know, I meanmaybe you do maybe you guys are
good about that.

Speaker 2 (43:43):
Unfortunately, I don't it?

Speaker 1 (43:45):
uh, I've noticed I get the same amount of likes on
saturday and sunday as I domonday through fr.
Monday through Friday.
People are on their phones.
It's a little less urgent nowthat we got Trump in, we got the
House, we got the Senate.
We still got a lot of work todo, but I felt like I kind of
had to help save the country,otherwise I was going to end up

(44:06):
in the gulag.

Speaker 8 (44:07):
There is one thing I miss about Biden.
I really miss the clips of himtrying to run in those special
shoes.
I want a pair of those shoes,man.
I miss that about Biden.
I miss him trying to run andmove quick.

Speaker 4 (44:24):
I know I started feeling guilty, though I really
did you did yeah, no you don'tfeel guilty, I went from
laughing at him to like I reallyfeel sorry for the guy now, and
then I felt bad about makingfun of him.
I'm like that's going to be meone day.
I can't do that.

Speaker 9 (44:39):
It'll be all of us one day.
If we live that long, that'llbe all of us, I know.

Speaker 4 (44:43):
But it was really pathetic.
I just hope the libs keeptalking.

Speaker 2 (44:54):
I hope they keep behaving the way they keep
behaving, because we're justgoing to maintain power as long
as they keep showing their asslike they do.
Neil, it's so funny you saythat, because it felt like there
was a week, maybe a week afterthe election, where there was
some self-reflection, like, oh,maybe we shouldn't have been
preaching these points.
But then they just went back totheir old ways and I keep
saying the same thing Are theyreally this dumb?
Are they really going to hammer?
They really?

Speaker 4 (45:12):
gonna, I don't hammer these 20 80 issues I don't know
, we would be out of a job ifthey all turned.
I mean we would so boring?

Speaker 1 (45:24):
yeah, I mean it's, it's uh, I think if you're
really paying attention, youknow that these 2080 issues are
not organic and I truly believethat this is a battle of good
versus evil and god versus satan, to be honest, and everything
that they're pushing.
If you look at it, it's theopposite of what god wants for

(45:48):
us and what's in the Bible.
And God wants families, hewants a mother and a father, he
wants boys and girls.
That there's, you know, it'swritten in the Bible.
There's two genders.
I mean it's um, wow, you justreally upset them.
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (46:07):
I don't know.
That's definitely not going tomake it.

Speaker 1 (46:11):
All it does is boost my revenue.

Speaker 6 (46:14):
And your guys too, yeah, right.

Speaker 1 (46:16):
That's what a lot of these country artists need to
realize.
Like guys, if you actually havethe courage to do this stuff,
you'll rock it to the top.

Speaker 2 (46:23):
So take that one to the bank.
That's what John Rich has beensaying forever.
Where are the conservativecountry people?
John's doing a great job.

Speaker 1 (46:32):
God bless him.

Speaker 9 (46:33):
That song Revelation so good.

Speaker 1 (46:34):
I helped him.
He asked me to help release it.
You know Just kind of retweetit a little bit.
I love it, the video it's sogood, but that's what's going on
.

Speaker 4 (46:43):
He's got a new one, but we can't say what it is oh
really.
Oh yeah, it's probably going tobe his best.

Speaker 2 (46:50):
Let's pivot.
We got one last question here,oh, he changed his subject real
quick, didn't he?
We got one last question.
Let's see what it is.

Speaker 7 (47:00):
Hi, my question's about all of the district judges
trying to place theseinjunctions, judge Boasberg,
among many others.
Trump admin is obviously goingto face a lot of this over the
course of his administration and, although it's great that
they've come prepared yes,stephen Miller is my spirit
animal but what's it going toactually take to put an end to

(47:20):
all of these radical leftjustices exerting power that
they simply don't have?
Also, I'm from Minnesota, astate that used to be great, now
ruined.

Speaker 4 (47:29):
Do we?

Speaker 7 (47:29):
have a chance of getting back to normalcy, or is
it time to just move to Florida?
What part of Florida do yourecommend?

Speaker 2 (47:34):
Thanks, you notice we have a lot of Minnesota
followers Because they're sad.

Speaker 8 (47:41):
They're living in hell.
They're sad.
Waltz is up there.
It's so depressing.

Speaker 2 (47:50):
He's the worst it is how do you live there?
That's my question.
Minnesota what do you thinkabout the question there?

Speaker 1 (47:57):
Well, I'll take it in reverse order.
Anywhere in Florida is a goodplace to live, except maybe
Miami.

Speaker 2 (48:04):
I was going to say maybe not Miami.

Speaker 1 (48:06):
The great part about Miami is how close it is to
America.
So it's just a short drive.

Speaker 3 (48:13):
That's amazing.
It's just a short drive so youcan get to where you need to go.

Speaker 1 (48:18):
That's no border patrol.
Um, so, uh, the judges.
That is the the billion dollarquestion.
So right now, what we areexperiencing is a judicial coup
and what these judges do.
You would need five SupremeCourt justices to create a
national injunction, and thesefederal district court judges,

(48:39):
who control just a little area,are able to do a national
injunction against the president.
Obama had, on average, one totwo per year of his entire eight
years.
Bush had less than one onaverage per year national
injunction.
Biden had about two per year.

(49:02):
Right, he was forcing vaccinesinto people's arms.
He was forcing masks on planes.
He was forcing soldiers to getthem.
He was forcing firemen planes.
He was forcing soldiers to getthem.
He was forcing firemen, nurses,employers all that and barely
any national injunctions.
Trump is just like, hey, weshouldn't send billions of

(49:23):
dollars overseas to these randomNGOs.
And the judge is like, nope,national injunction, send 2
billion now.
Oh, by the way, I was born incanada, deal with it, you know?
Um?
And then judge boesberg, ohwait, you're sending these ms-13
and trenda ragua cartel guysback to where they came from.
Uh, no, bring them.
Bring them back to america,like crazy trump has had in his

(49:50):
four years and two months, over80 national injunctions, on
average 20 per year.
An absolute abuse of power,effectively a judicial coup.
What do we do?
First off, we try and impeachthese bastards.
We know who they are and whatthey're actually doing.

(50:11):
They're Marxist activists inblack robes.
Second, judicial reform.
We try and pass laws to say youcannot make a national
injunction as a single districtcourt judge.
You can only make a ruling thataffects the people involved,
right?
So instead of yes, we may havethose Trenda Ragwa guys, okay,

(50:36):
you can't send those particularpeople, but you can send all
these other ones, right?
That's kind of the reformthey'd be looking for.
Or a three-judge panel to makethose rules, not just a single
random Obama judge.
And then the third thing and Iactually tweeted this the other
day is stop announcingeverything we're doing publicly.

(50:59):
Just do it.
Then announce it three, fourdays later, because all these
judges can do is stop you.
They can't make you go andrebuild what you broke, and
we're trying to dismantle thiscorrupt government.
So let's just do it, becausewith these Trend Aragua guys,

(51:20):
the reason why it was actuallysuccessful is because they
didn't announce it.

Speaker 3 (51:23):
They sent them and then by the time people found
out and then you have to write abrief and send it to the court
exactly it takes.

Speaker 1 (51:31):
It takes some time you got to write, especially if
you do it on a friday orsaturday night.
Guess what, right you know?
So, oh, sorry, they're alreadyin el salvador next.
You know I sent that tweet andthey already did that, right.
But I was like, hey, even withthese executives, oh, you want
to abolish it, a part ofeducation, start abolishing it

(51:52):
and then do the executive orderand the signing and the da da da
.
And I said I literally sentthat to trump's people and one
of the responses was I'm notagainst this, so we have to
adjust our tactics.
These guys are battling us.
Let's adjust our tactics.
You know it's like Braveheartright, when you're kind of like

(52:15):
outgunned and outmanned.
You know they lure them in onthe horse and they lift up the
giant spikes.
You know it's like you got toplay a little dirtier, but
within the bounds of theConstitution.

Speaker 9 (52:29):
You're way smarter than we are by the way, yeah,
yeah, you're the coolest lawyerI know.
That was before he got here.

Speaker 4 (52:34):
That was, I think I think judge drano has a ring to
it.

Speaker 2 (52:37):
Oh, that's actually pretty good, judge drano I like
that right I don't know, sodon't drink as many margaritas.

Speaker 9 (52:47):
I want to ask you actually my wife wanted to ask
you.
This huge fan of yours.
She was curious about thedifference between X and truth
social.
Now that Trump's in andeverything, is there a big
difference between X and truthnow?

Speaker 1 (53:02):
I think it helps boost Trump's poll numbers that
he's not on Twitter as much andfire and tweets at Rosie
O'Donnell and you know, like,yeah, like I.
I think that has been a bigboost in a way, like he's got a
lot more kind of discipline thanbefore.

(53:23):
Right, you'd wake up and belike you know she was bleeding
from everywhere and you're justlike, ah no, that's tough.

Speaker 9 (53:39):
That's really funny and true.

Speaker 1 (53:44):
And now you get these press releases on his true
social and then they make theirway to twitter and trump's polls
are the highest they've everbeen right like he's.
He's doing great and I think hejust he just really has a grip
on the controls right like.
He knows everything about beingpresident.
He knows all the players, heknows what to say, what to do,

(54:06):
he's an absolute 10 out of 10this time around and he's the
most aggressive he's ever been.
I mean, we're really blessed.
So both of them have pure freespeech.
X is just the biggest digitalplatform in the world, but Truth
Social is great.

(54:27):
Everything I post on truthsocial is great.
Everything I post on x.
I pretty much always post ontruth and very high engagement
there cool you were talkingabout.

Speaker 2 (54:33):
You know, of course, being in the oval office with
trump, but have you, have youhad any like time with him?
That isn't that like.
I think I'd heard that you'vebeen to mar-a-lago for a dinner
or something when you get himlike off time.
Can you talk to that a little?

Speaker 1 (54:48):
bit.
Yeah, I'm uh feel extremelyfortunate.
I've had dinner with him twice,uh, during the primary, when he
was running, you know, againstdesantis best governor in the
country, and um, but I supporttrump in the primary and uh, he
brought me to dinner anyway,great, that's fine, I was gonna
support you but sure, um, so acouple funny stories.

(55:10):
But, like he said, I mean he'sas he is on tv.
If anything, he's almost evenbetter because he's.

Speaker 2 (55:16):
He's such a gentleman .

Speaker 1 (55:17):
He's super engaging, he's funny, he's actually
inquisitive, he asks a lot ofquestions, but if you, if you're
with a attractive girl, oh, she, she's gonna get the compliment
first.
But like they eat it up, theygirls love him, like he's, he's
the lovable grandpa, you know,uh, but a couple funny stories.

(55:40):
So, um, when we he's like yougotta try the pretzel bread,
okay, he's like, get the pretzelbread right.
And he, you know, in betweenhe's on his ipad picking songs
playing for the whole.
Oh, he's playing dj uh dj right, yeah, the whole mar-a-lago
dining room and you havebillionaires just eating.

(56:01):
and then he'll be like, listento this part, listen and, and he
cranks it up and it's likePavarotti belting out the
loudest part of the song andhe's got it probably on 10, and
it's like and then it ends andeveryone just starts clapping.
Sir, mr President, that wasamazing.

Speaker 9 (56:23):
Good call, mr President, great performance,
good call, good call.

Speaker 1 (56:28):
But anyway.
So he's like, wasn't that goodcall, mr, great performance,
good call, good call um.
But anyway.
So he's like you gotta try thepretzel bread.
I'm like, okay, I'll have thepretzel bread please.
And and they bring it and it's,you know, it's a you know bread
stick, right, it's got the uh,salt on top the crystals right.

Speaker 2 (56:41):
Is there a dipping sauce?

Speaker 1 (56:42):
or no, there probably was, I don't remember.
I honestly you're you.
It's a little nerve wracking.

Speaker 6 (56:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (56:50):
And then he gets his, and he gets a very special
pretzel bread.
It looks like it's frosted.
Hold on, it's different, somuch salt.

Speaker 8 (56:58):
This is my favorite part we've ever had on the
podcast.
It's his own, his own specialpretzel bread.

Speaker 2 (57:03):
Very special pretzel bread he recommends a pretzel
bread, but his is different.

Speaker 1 (57:07):
It looks like a layer of frosting on top.
Is it more salt?
It's got so much salt on itMore salt.
And he goes.
My doctor says I'm healthy as ahorse.
I need more salt than normal.

Speaker 6 (57:17):
Of course, that's what he says.

Speaker 1 (57:19):
And I was like unreal .
Yeah, great it is really goodpretzel bread, and so you're
having dinner and he'll just forthree hours.
He's just asking me questionsabout policies, politics, people
, everything.
And, um, you know, we didn'tagree on everything.
I I tried to advocate what Ithought was what his voters

(57:43):
wanted, you know.
And he's, he's busy, he's doingstuff.
I was like, hey, this is whatI'm thinking.
I'm not saying I'm right, but Iremember one.
You know I slipped in a coupleof things that I was like you
know, let's just see whathappens.
And he we're talking about, uh,the Ukraine war, and he's
obviously, you know, doesn'twant that war to keep continuing
.
And I was like, you know, Ithink we should pull out of NATO

(58:04):
.
You know, he's like I like NATO.
And I was like, all right, allright, just, throwing it out
there.

Speaker 9 (58:12):
Just pull out of that 60-year tree like yeah, let's
just see what happens um and uhwhat was the?

Speaker 4 (58:24):
story he needs to ask a bunch of songwriters what do
you think about that?

Speaker 1 (58:30):
he's genuinely curious he's constantly like
what do you think about this?
How, how's truth doing?
How's truth is truth, good,truth, good, yeah, he's, he's,
he's, he's very intellectuallycurious.
And then I remember at onepoint it was like midnight and
all the people oh, actually, sopeople come up to the table,
right, so you're at the onlytable with the stanchions around

(58:51):
it, right, and the secretservice and, but, like, the
owner of, like Marvel comicswill come over.
You know, 85 years old, hey,bob, bob, everyone say hello to
Bob.
He invented Marvel comic.
Billionaire, great guy.
Comment billionaire, great guy,great guy.
And he goes see this guy, he'san influencer.

(59:11):
He's just pointing at me andI'm like, yeah, I tweet like,
and bob's like oh yeah, nice tomeet you.
You know every person I came tosee, he's an influencer, it's
just it's very innocent in a waylike, yeah, he's just you know,
um, and then it's, it'smidnight, everyone's gone home,

(59:35):
it's empty.
The secret service agents areyawning.
They're great guys, but they'reyou know.
And then trump looks around andhe's like, yeah, I guess we
should go to bed, and we're likeand and I was like, oh, thank
God.

Speaker 7 (59:47):
I'm so tired.

Speaker 1 (59:49):
It's tough to keep up with him and he just gets up,
poof, goes away and he probablywakes up in four hours and goes
golfing and runs the world thenext day.
So I mean the guy and this isat 77, 78, sharp as a tack he's
got four indictments, he's gotthe fbi right in his house and
he's in the best mood ever.
It's.
He's off the charts in terms ofhow he's built, built different

(01:00:11):
.
We're so lucky to have him forsure.
Big part of why they hate himtoo.
Yeah, because they're all fat,lazy idiots.
And there you go.
Well, biden was sharp as a tack.
Well, right, he was with it.
As Trump says, I went to one ofthe best schools.

(01:00:33):
I'm actually really smart, heis, though, but he's like it's
clearly results are in the.
Did you eat Baron while youwere there?
No, I have not met Baron.
I had a reporter call me acouple of weeks ago.
Be like hey, someone said youknew Baron and Baron.
Uh, I had a reporter call me acouple of weeks ago and be like
hey, someone said you knew Baron, and I'm like I don't know

(01:00:53):
Baron.
He's a teenager.
Like yeah, it's not really.
I was like I think he's doing agreat job.
He advises dad brilliantly.
Put him on these huge podcastsin the election, right, uh, but
Trump talks about him.
He only talked about like onceand he talks he's just like a
regular dad.
He's like oh yeah, barron's upat his room playing video games
Like he doesn't want to comedown.
You know, I was like all right,it's fine, barron's out dunking

(01:01:17):
the basketball.
He's dropping it.

Speaker 8 (01:01:21):
He's so tall, what did he?

Speaker 2 (01:01:22):
get.
What did they?

Speaker 8 (01:01:27):
I mean he just sprouted.
I love the pictures he's bareand just looming in the
background, five feet tallerthan everybody else.

Speaker 2 (01:01:33):
And then they made those fake videos where he's
like 20 feet tall and he justkeeps getting bigger.

Speaker 1 (01:01:40):
What did?

Speaker 8 (01:01:40):
he whisper in Biden's ear.

Speaker 1 (01:01:43):
I don't know, but that was badass, it was like
gangster stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:01:48):
Nobody ever said what he said.
Whatever it was, it was myfavorite video I've seen.

Speaker 1 (01:01:52):
Yeah, it was mafia-esque, it was Biden was
like Biden had a shimmy here.
Yeah, look at the old shimmy.
Biden thought he was about toget a good sniff in.

Speaker 9 (01:02:06):
And his mood changed.

Speaker 4 (01:02:07):
That's probably what he said Baron, you're not
sniffing, he's got to sniff upfor.

Speaker 2 (01:02:10):
Baron, though he was gearing up for it, and then
Baron's like you were mentioning, like you know, the podcast and
stuff he was recommending forTrump.
Do you think?
I mean, I'm sure you do, you'rebiased, I'm sure, on this
opinion, but he, you know, he'shad such a huge favorability
rating, and especially with theyounger audience, and he took

(01:02:33):
that route right and you gotpeople like doing the podcast.
You got theo von, you have joerogan, you got, you know,
charlie kirk, who we've talkedabout earlier, going around to
colleges, you yourself andpeople doing all the influencing
you.

Speaker 1 (01:02:45):
I feel like that had the major effect on the election
I think there's a paradigmshift in this country that
people are only starting torealize, and the data just came
out, I think yesterday, thatshowed men in their 20s are more
conservative than white men intheir 70s, which has never been

(01:03:10):
the case, right, it's alwaysbeen the older you get, the more
conservative.
And the young kids are thehippies and the whatever there
is a like, and it's white men.
It's not women yet, but Gen Zis the most conservative
generation of our lifetimes andI think it's because they grew
up purely on the internet.

(01:03:32):
And the internet, as censoredas it is, you're still free to
pursue whatever topics you want,to go down right, and when
you've got Theo Vaughn, joeRogan, charlie Kirk and so many
others, the Nelk boys, aidenRoss, you've got these, even if
they're censoring themselves,they're still right of center,

(01:03:54):
whereas people like us, we grewup with whatever came on the TV
is what we ingested.
You know it was MTV, it was whatwas in the movies, it was what
was in magazines, and so theykind of have a true, like free
approach to what they're goingto ingest.
And men are naturally drawn tofacts and logic and, and I think

(01:04:18):
that's just, uh, what's what'shappening and and I'm very
optimistic about it, to behonest, and I hope these guys
become the next round ofinfluencers right, like I'm a
boomer compared to these guys.
You know, I'm in my late 30s,so it's very fascinating and
it's happening in real time.

(01:04:39):
We're all kind of learningabout it.

Speaker 8 (01:04:41):
We talked about it a little bit last year, touring
before the election all lastsummer and even on our on our
scale with with the song rightin a small town, like.
So we started the tour and fromshow one, we're like, did you
notice all the young guys outthere, like we've been out a
long time, over 20 years, likein the crowds were young and we

(01:05:03):
played try that in a small townand it went crazy and we're like
, wow, this market's really goodfor this song Every night and
so we talked about it.
There's something going on,even on our little sample size,
that we see every night.
So it was interesting.
The patriotism.
It was like this is interestingYoung guys, young girls too.

(01:05:28):
But it was was young and theywere there to hear that song
aldine is like traverses acrossall age groups.

Speaker 1 (01:05:36):
I mean, his stuff is.

Speaker 8 (01:05:37):
He's still just literally one of the hottest
country singers like it's, butfrom year to year it was a, it
was a difference, it was like alike from I think three years
ago.

Speaker 4 (01:05:46):
looking, though huh, he's not the ago.
I think Luke Bryan's better.
Looking, though Huh, he's notthe hottest.
Luke Bryan's better looking, Idon't know.

Speaker 8 (01:05:52):
Your phone's about to ring, bro.
That was a joke, boss.

Speaker 4 (01:05:56):
Joke boss.

Speaker 9 (01:06:01):
So did Trump give you his new watches or his gold
sneakers that he's beenadvertising since before the
election and did that make younervous, when he advertised that
on tv and radio before theelection like please, god, stop
selling sneakers.

Speaker 1 (01:06:15):
You know we want you to be president it's interesting
because sometimes people giveme uh crap for posting ads on my
page, which you know.
It's how we make money and Isay the only difference between
me and fox news and newsmax isthat my ads have a comment
section, which is not ideal forme, but you know we got to do

(01:06:35):
them every now and then.
But, um, and sometimes I'm likeguys trump is selling sneakers,
like you know, like in memecoins, like come on, I'm telling
you, pocket knives, like relaxit's fine, just thumb scroll a
little bit past it and the painis over.
But no, trump did not.
Well, he, actually he does.

(01:06:57):
Every time you meet with Trump,he will give you a gift.
Like, anytime you are in hispresence, he will like give you
a gift.
He signed his picture book thathas all the letters from all
these famous celebrities thatloved him before he ran for
president letters from oprah,letters from, like, rosie
o'donnell, you know not, beforethey got into their fights.

(01:07:19):
Um, like you know.
Uh, other, you know, presidentsfrom reagan, like I mean, it's
a really cool book.
Yeah, like, who do you wantthis made out to Like, and he's
like get some hats, get somehats.
He's like, which hat do youwant, you know?
And I'll be like save America.
He's like, all right, signedhat, you know.
And then, when we were in theoval office, I didn't bring it

(01:07:41):
with me, but he has thesechallenge coins.
You know the challenge coinslike the veterans hand them out
mostly.
And he has the biggest challengecoin.
It's literally the size of thatbutton and it's heavy.
It weighs like three pounds.
It's like a weight that you puton the you know the bar and uh,

(01:08:03):
it's, it's like the biggestchallenge coin you'll ever.
You, and if you come into theOval Office you meet here you go
.
Here's a coin.
He's always given gifts inmerch.

Speaker 8 (01:08:17):
He's a constant salesman, he's got the best
merch.
I like that.
Watch commercial Trump time.
It's Trump time.

Speaker 9 (01:08:24):
It's Trump time.
It looks good on your wrist.

Speaker 2 (01:08:30):
We can't thank you enough for coming to
Nashvilleashville.
By the way, when are you goingto get a place in?

Speaker 1 (01:08:34):
nashville, man, as soon as I can.
You like it here, right, I loveit.
I, I absolutely love it.
There's only I was telling uh,someone earlier there's only two
places that I, uh, my soulwants to live, and it's Tampa
and Nashville.
I love Florida, it's it's, it'smy home, but Nashville is, or

(01:08:55):
at least outside of Nashville,yeah, yeah, you don't want to go
to Davidson County, I don'tthink.

Speaker 2 (01:08:59):
Yeah, no.
Well, you might visit the HonkyTonks.

Speaker 4 (01:09:02):
Yeah, yeah, we have bigger deer in Nashville than
you do in Tampa too.

Speaker 1 (01:09:06):
Oh way, bigger yeah we have dogs with antlers down
there.
I like hunting the pigs morethan the deer down there, um.
So yeah, I love it and there'sit.
It feels like florida andtennessee have a connection in
so many ways.
They're both very freedomoriented States, no state income

(01:09:27):
tax.
But yeah, I noticed whenDeSantis would do something in
COVID, governor Lee was rightbehind them and it was.
They were like the bashbrothers.
So I just love Tennessee.
It's, it's, it's, it's amazing.

Speaker 2 (01:09:43):
Tennessee loves you.
Thank you, Listen, this is.
There was a lot of things thatyou could have done tonight, and
I'm sure this was low on yourlist, but we are very
appreciative of you.
Seriously, it's been incrediblefor us.
Hey, if you're watching onYouTube, leave us some good
comments, right?
Give us that five-star review.

Speaker 4 (01:10:02):
We've got to wish our business associate Wade a happy
birthday.
Oh say Wade's birthday.
I don't use the word partner,so I have to say business
associate.

Speaker 8 (01:10:13):
Hey, and we're coming to Tampa.
Oh yeah, we'll be playing Tampathis year.

Speaker 6 (01:10:17):
Oh yeah.

Speaker 8 (01:10:18):
Are we finishing the tour there last weekend?
That's actually right.
Yeah, really Finishing the tour.
It's like the last three showsin.

Speaker 1 (01:10:23):
October.

Speaker 6 (01:10:24):
I think, Well.

Speaker 1 (01:10:25):
I guarantee it's going to be sold out.
Yeah, I'll be there, I'll bethere.
Florida loves country musicyeah.

Speaker 2 (01:10:32):
Florida's been good to us Absolutely.
Like I said, we're thankful foryou, we're thankful for
everybody for watching,listening, downloading, doing
all that stuff from the PatriotMobile Studios.

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