From Hicktown to Headliner: Jason Aldean's 20-Year Musical Journey :: Ep 56 Try That in a Small Town Podcast

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I think college kids should be paid to play right
Like their days.
It's not like a normal collegekid.
They don't just get to go toclass and go home and study and
it's like dude, whether it'sbaseball, football, whatever
it's like.
It is a thing, it is a job whenyou're in college.
And so do.
I think those guys should becompensated for that.
Yeah, they can't really go workor do whatever, so I think they

(00:26):
should make enough money tolike get them through whatever.
I think there should be somesort of cap on that.
It's awesome that they.

Speaker 3 (00:29):
What would you say if , if, if somebody wanted to come
to you and go, we want to do areality show at your house.

Speaker 1 (00:36):
They have already always happened multiple times.
Are you serious?
Yeah, and I remember pullingbackstage we're opening for tim
mcraw.
Tim's got all his buses andtrucks and stuff back there.
And I just remember going man,how do we go from our thing to
this thing?
And I remember Kevin goingthree and a half minutes.
Man, you just need the rightthree and a half minutes,

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meaning it takes one song tochange the game.
The Try that in a Small Townpodcast begins now.

Speaker 4 (01:10):
Try that in a Small Town.
And we are back with anotherepisode of the Try that in a
Small Town podcast coming to youfrom the Patriot Mobile Studios
.
It still sounds good KaloThrash TK.
I'm current.
Tonight we got the OG the goodone, the great one, the Peach
man, the Peach man, peach.

Speaker 1 (01:33):
Man, we're starting with the nicknames.
I know there was a couple youguys were talking about
nicknames on one of the episodesand we never got to yours.

Speaker 3 (01:40):
I don't think.
I think it's Darryl, it's.

Speaker 1 (01:41):
Darryl, it's close.
It starts with a D so yeah,there is a nickname.
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:48):
It's not flattering.
That's great.
No, there's a nickname that'sbeen around.

Speaker 4 (01:52):
It starts with a D.

Speaker 1 (01:55):
You got Tick or TK, we call him.
You got Kurt Kurtman A lot ofpeople say.

Speaker 4 (02:00):
Korn Kornman's a big one, kirtman.

Speaker 1 (02:02):
Dew is the other one, dew.

Speaker 4 (02:05):
You should give people how that came about.
Yeah, totally, it's a longstory.

Speaker 8 (02:08):
I like Dew, dew's kind of cool.

Speaker 3 (02:09):
It's like Loretta Lynn's husband.

Speaker 8 (02:11):
Yeah, dew, that is his nickname.

Speaker 1 (02:13):
Dew Dew.
I think his was Dool.
No, it was Dew at being likeTommy Lee Jones in the movie.
But go ahead, it might havebeen the way she was saying it.

Speaker 3 (02:24):
It's the way she said it.

Speaker 8 (02:25):
It's the way she said it.
It's so country.

Speaker 3 (02:26):
It's like dude I don't know.

Speaker 1 (02:30):
So how did Kurt get the name Kurt man or do?
How did do come about Actually?

Speaker 4 (02:34):
you remember it, we were in a car with a record, rep
Lee Adams.

Speaker 1 (02:39):
It's very, very very fuzzy.
It's pretty fuzzy well, we hadbeen on the road.
We were delirious.
We had been on the road for itwas like during the radio tour
type stuff and you know earlydays and I don't know what it
was.

Speaker 6 (02:51):
But tully got on this thing about happy texas I was,
yeah, probably very hungover ordrunk, depending on yeah, what
time of morning.
Probably, yeah, I can'tremember exactly, but it was
some sort of fake story.
I was made up this alter ego.

Speaker 4 (03:11):
You were just coming up with a bit.

Speaker 6 (03:14):
From happy Texas.

Speaker 1 (03:14):
Kurt Mandu.

Speaker 6 (03:17):
From happy Texas.

Speaker 1 (03:18):
Yeah, kurt Mandu, and he did this in the car for
hours, like two hours, and sonext thing we know everybody's
calling Kurt Dew Kurt.

Speaker 4 (03:26):
Man.
Dew Kurt whatever, and it gotshortened to Joe or Kurtman.

Speaker 1 (03:30):
Yeah, on the road, everybody's got a name JA Peach,
peach Band.
I don't know if Kurt wants anickname Thrash K-Lo.

Speaker 3 (03:38):
I don't think he wants one though he doesn't want
tattoos.
None of us want them.
I mean, he doesn't want it.

Speaker 1 (03:42):
I didn't I didn't pick mine ago.
You know, if I'd have picked it, it'd have been some like
thrash is better than peachmaverick for sure.

Speaker 6 (03:49):
You know, that's my wait, wait, wait I'm, I'm, my
goose, you're goose, I've alwaysbeen mad, and this is our life
in a nutshell we'll talk aboutthat off there in a nutshell,
we'll talk about.

Speaker 4 (04:08):
We'll talk about that off there.
Hey what?
I think we kind of breezed bythis, uh, in the last episode, I
guess, but we, we had our oneyear anniversary as a podcast,
which is pretty cool it waspretty amazing yeah and jason
was obviously our first guestwhich aired a year to the day.
So we got to ask you, uh, atwo-part question did you think

(04:29):
that we'd last a year?
B, because you actually watch,which I think is pretty funny
you'll be watching our episodes.
Who did you like watching us doso?
Did you think we'd last a year?

Speaker 1 (04:41):
I think in the beginning it's like you guys are
going to do a podcast and Ithink in our world, you know, I
mean this is a business of ideas, right?
so, like everybody's constantlyhey, I'm going to start this
company and I'm going to do this, I'm going to start a podcast
and I'm going to, you know, gohost a show and I'm going to.
You know, there's a lot of that, obviously.
I know you guys, I know youguys, and so I'm like I think

(05:02):
this will be cool, but, likeanything, it's getting it out
there, making people aware thatit's out, and just you know
things like that.
So you know, I think, for me, Ithought it was cool, you guys
were doing it.
I don't think I really had anunderstanding of what that was
going to look like until I camein the first time and it's like,
oh OK, this is going to be fun.
And so, even now, I likepodcasts, man, I'll drive around

(05:23):
, drive my kids to school andthrow on a podcast and listen to
it.
You know, and you know Ienjoyed.

Speaker 7 (05:32):
I just listened to the one you guys did with Cletus
.

Speaker 1 (05:33):
I've known Cletus forever.
We actually came out of thesame nightclub, the Buck Board
in Atlanta.

Speaker 3 (05:37):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (05:38):
Cletus kind of.
That's where he kind of got hisstart.
That's where Michael Knoxdiscovered me.
He was in the Buckboard.
Darren Norwood came out ofthere.
Who else man, I don't know.
It was like.
That was kind of like a littlehotspot back in the late 90s,
mid-late 90s, and so listen toCletus was awesome.
Obviously Hulk Hogan one of ouridols, you know as a kid of the

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80s like Hulk Hogan was the man, so I got to be friends with
him and to listen to him on thepodcast was really cool.
I don't know.
I mean there's been a lot CashPatel man.
Cash was really awesome to haveon, so glad he was an Aldean
fan.

Speaker 3 (06:17):
Oh yeah, oh my God, that's how we knew he was a cool
guy.

Speaker 1 (06:22):
Right, right.
But no, you guys have doneawesome, man, and it's been
really cool to watch it and kindof be on the first one and
watch it take off and watcheverybody else come on board and
you know, sometimes you guysget people on here that I'm like
how did you guys pull that?
Off man, it's pretty impressive.

Speaker 4 (06:38):
Well, we say that you'll go do something for them,
yeah.

Speaker 1 (06:48):
You have a lot of benefits.

Speaker 6 (06:49):
It's coming in different areas.
I'll take it for the team boys.
It's fun, so cool time.
We are gearing up for the newtour, which this one's cool
because it's 20 years jeez,since the hicktown album song
single album talking about yourhair?
Did you think we were going tolast?
That's the question.
Like we talk about this, a lotlike making that album, I know

(07:10):
we all thought god, will we get?

Speaker 4 (07:14):
to do this again.
Yeah, yeah, I think it was welljust making the album.

Speaker 6 (07:17):
Yeah, if you remember , like before anything had come
out, I remember sitting in thisin the studio that we still sit
in today.
I remember sitting in this inthe studio that we still sit in
today thinking.
I remember like playing,thinking, wow, this is really
cool, will we get to do thisagain?

Speaker 1 (07:30):
And so well, here we are.

Speaker 6 (07:32):
Yeah, I mean, I think for me.

Speaker 1 (07:34):
I mean you go back 20 years since we, you know,
dropped that album and Hicktowncame out and all that you know
think came out in april of 05 orsomething like that.
But so 20 years and I thinkwhen we went in to make that
album, I mean we had alreadybeen in there cutting demos and
kind of doing that thing andit's like.
So for me, cutting the albumwas like I was excited to feel

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like I was working towardssomething, like it was something
that was going to be out right,because we had always been cut
demos that we were trying to geta deal on, and so you pitch
those things to the label andthen you go play them for mom
and daddy and everybody at homeand then other than that,
nobody's hearing it, right.
So we were cutting an albumthat people were going to hear
and you know, I just rememberthinking, I thought in my mind,

(08:17):
like what we were doing was cool.
Um, I think we probably thoughtit was better than it was at
the time.
You know, I think it wasdifferent at the time, which was
kind of what set us apart.
But I think we were all stillkind of learning and you know,
even though we had all kind ofdone our thing individually.
It's like all of a sudden wewere all kind of coming together
as a truly as a band and liketrying to figure this out.

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And so I think that took sometime.
And you know, cutting the firstalbum, I just I didn't know what
to expect.
I just I was like man, this hasjust been.
You know, I'd had record dealsand lost them.
And you know, here I gotanother one.
We're cutting.
I'm like is this thing evergoing to see the light of day?
I don't know.
You know this could be anotherthing where it just goes away or
they decide, ah, this recordsucks and you sucks, and you

(09:01):
know we're not gonna do this orwhatever you know.
And so for me, I mean, untilthat single hit radio and like
the album was in the store andpeople could go get it, it was
like I just didn't.
I tried not to get like toowrapped up in.
Oh, I got a record deal andlike it's gonna be awesome and
whatever it was like.
It was still like we hadnothing we had.
We had a record deal on paperbut no hit, no money, still

(09:26):
starving.
You know, it's like it.
The record deal really didn'tmean anything to me at the time
until we could get out and havea hit and start going and like
really because you'd alreadybeen in town and failed for a
while.

Speaker 4 (09:37):
You had a deal previous to that.
So I think you kind ofunderstood hey, there's still,
there's still stuff to happenhere.

Speaker 1 (09:44):
Yeah, I mean getting the record deals like the tip of
the iceberg right, like you getthat and that's cool, that's a
start.
But then I mean you've got tohave the label behind you, like
they've got to be interested inwhat you're doing and feel like
you're bringing something coolto the table and really get
behind you.
And we've always had the staffat broken bow that's, you know,
been incredible with that.

(10:04):
They've always been on boardwith us and you know they didn't
have a choice shit, we're theonly, we were the only artists
there at the time.
You know it was like us and youknow, craig morgan had had a
couple hits, sheree austin hadhad a couple hits, but like past
that, like they didn't have aflagship artist for the label
and they were just trying to getthat label up and running.
And you know, here we come alongand it's like, well, I guess

(10:27):
we'll put it behind this guy andyou know, and it just, you know
, we just had a great teamaround us and I think, uh, for
the for the parts where we werekind of lacking in the early
days, we had a really good teamto kind of pick up those pieces
and and once we got on the roadand started doing our thing.
It's like we were alwaysconfident in that part of it,
like going out and playing live.
It's like if you give us a hitwe're golden.

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We just didn't have a hit, youknow.
And so when hicktown became ahit and that thing started to
build, it was like, okay, herewe go.
And then we just kind ofrefined it over the years as as
we went did you listen to themichael knox episode?

Speaker 3 (11:02):
I didn't, you did how ?
Accurate how accurate was it.

Speaker 1 (11:05):
This is great say michael's is, you know 85
accurate or so there was some,there was some, uh, some details
.
I was like did that maybe thatI don't know well, it's a long.

Speaker 4 (11:19):
In fairness, that's a long time, dude it's, but I've
known knox for 20.

Speaker 3 (11:24):
I mean 98, so 20 yeah god, I love him, I love that
dude eight years.

Speaker 1 (11:28):
So whatever, like I mean hell.
You know I've known nox overhalf my life.
You know he's the guy thatbrought me here and he's the
reason.
I know tully and kurt and youand you and you know it's just
like the dude changed my lifeforever.
I'll say this I came to town asa kid from Georgia that was

(11:52):
doing pretty good down in theclubs in Georgia and Florida and
felt good about what we weredoing, felt good about myself.
We were building a littlefollowing and starting to get
some heat.
Then I come to town and I'mthinking, oh, this is going to
be awesome, pick up where I leftoff down in Georgia and Florida
.
And it's like, nah, you know,it was a whole different thing.
And you know there was a lot ofpeople on board in the early

(12:13):
days that were excited aboutwhat I was doing and all that.
That.
When I lost my deal and thosekind of things, those people
kind of peeled off and Michaelwas the the only one that kind
of stayed there and saw itthrough and it's like, hey, just
lost that record deal, we'regoing to go get another one,
we're going to keep going in.
And it's just like thatrelentless attitude, man, and
that was like.
That was something to me, thatwas I needed at the time, and I

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don't think, like you know, wewould be sitting here if his
mentality wasn't like that.
So I mean, I owe that guyeverything, but his story is
about 85 percent well you knowwhat I love about starting.

Speaker 6 (12:48):
Every year we get to start a new tour and I always
think about the same thing.
And you kind of just talkedabout a little bit, you know,
the years before we made thatfirst album, you know, and we
talk about doing showcases andbasically trying to get a record
deal and playing for labels,playing a lot of the same songs.
We were playing amaryllis skyand why, and johnny cash and you

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gotta remember too like we lookawful.

Speaker 1 (13:17):
I mean, listen, this isn't like what you see now what
do you mean?

Speaker 3 (13:21):
looked awful.

Speaker 1 (13:22):
What are you talking?
We did not look good like we.
You know, it wasn't a thingwhere we were getting like our
clothes tailored and everything.
Look I'm up there in a baggy assyou know, button-up shirt and
like it's like man, this is kindof the vibe, but like I don't
have the money to go get my, Idon't have the money to go get
my stuff tailored.
So here it is.

(13:43):
You know, and like these guys Imean kurt in the first or
second video had a pair of chucktaylor converse that he wore
and all the time and they theywere splitting open.
He had duct tape wrapped aroundthem and you can see it in the
video, like, and that's where wewere at.

Speaker 4 (13:59):
It wasn't to be cool, it was rock and roll, so yeah
it's not like now you go out andsee it's like, oh, like, oh.

Speaker 1 (14:04):
This is a really refined version of like what we
do.
Back then it was still kind ofrough, and you know it was like
it took somebody to see that andgo there's something in there.
I don't know, it's cool,there's something in there.
And Knox was, you know, sawsomething we were playing one

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night, and, and you know thatwas that.

Speaker 6 (14:29):
So I love those days, though because I feel like you
know it was struggling then.

Speaker 1 (14:34):
But something about looking back on it where, like,
beginning of every tour, likegod, you know, like every tour
like God, you know, like italways feels the struggle, is
what I think about the most now,like and really well, I think
it's yeah, I think it's justbeing thankful or, like you know

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, even though it to sit here andsay, like man, it was 20 years
ago, we were getting started andwe put out this and we were
playing all these you know crazyshows or whatever.
And I think now it's justthankful.
It's like 20 years in and we'restill able to go out every year
and, like you know, have thisnew rig and this new tour and
keep like creating this stuffevery year, to go out and play

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our songs.
And it's cool, man, like Idon't know.
I mean I think that's what wealways wanted to do, but it's
like hell, everybody wants to dothat.
But there's, like this 1% ofpeople that get to do it and,
for whatever reason, we're inthat club, and so every year
it's pretty cool to unveil allthose things and go damn.

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And then look and go, man, thefirst 10 shows are already sold
out.
So there's that, and then itit's like man, 20 years in,
we're still, you know, peoplestill care and we can still go
do this.
I think that's all we everreally wanted to do.
So, um, yeah, I'm with you.
I mean it's always cool to toget started for the the start of
the tour yeah, and we and youknow it still blows my mind that

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we have catering after 20something years.

Speaker 6 (16:02):
I remember you know what I was telling someone the
other day I think it was Keller.
Actually my son was sayingfood's always so good.
I'm like back in the day whenwe first started, we were doing
200 shows a year and you guysknow we were playing bars on a
Friday night, maybe a fairsomewhere on a Saturday.

Speaker 1 (16:21):
You're getting chicken fingers from the bar and
fries.

Speaker 6 (16:25):
I mean we ate Subway A lot.
It was like 15 days in a rowwhich we thought was healthy or
barbecue.

Speaker 4 (16:32):
Healthier at the time .

Speaker 8 (16:36):
That ain't work for Jared Well other things messed
him up.
It wasn't the Subway sandwiches.

Speaker 1 (16:42):
Things went dark for Jared.

Speaker 4 (16:47):
He's got a Netflix special and everything special.
Now I started to watch it.
I had to turn it off.

Speaker 1 (16:49):
It's too much.

Speaker 6 (16:50):
I'm not saying it might not be on netflix, but
it's on one of them, yeah no,but seriously, like we're eating
, and that I mean to to now,it's like holy crap.
No, you know, it's still.
It's still amazing and so funand it's such a proud moment to
think, oh, we've been doing thistogether for so long and we and
we got to where we wanted to go.

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But I know that we still havethat feeling of like I don't
want it to go away.
Well, and I think it's thesecret sauce, yeah, and I think
that's the thing.

Speaker 1 (17:19):
It's like, you know, there's this fine line of going
hey, this is what I alwayswanted to do and we did all that
stuff.
You know there's most of itwe've done, you know, but
there's also that side of likeman, I want to keep creating
music and keep doing stuff wehaven't done and go out and make
the content for the showsdifferent, and every year it's

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like they're getting a differentexperience when they come to
the shows.
And I think for us it's alwaysbeen focusing on music, making
sure, like, as we get older inthe business, like to try and
keep the music still cool andand you know, stuff that I don't
know that we would, we wouldsay or that we would do, and and
we're not going to do songslike hick town and those kind of

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things that we did when I was28, I'm hell, I'm 48 now.
So you, you know, you got, wedid a lot of those things which
I probably wouldn't cut now, butI feel like the stuff we do now
is is some of the best stuffwe've we've done, like some of
the coolest songs that we've cut, and so you know, to me that's
a big part of it and that'salways what makes everything
else go.
So as long as we're cuttinggreat records and cool things

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and creating these moments youknow, the shows and people being
interested and staying involvedin what we're doing that kind
of stuff will just come as longas we're doing this other thing
and that's kind of what I'vealways tried to focus on- I
remember watching sorry Caleb,no, go ahead.

Speaker 6 (18:38):
I remember when we were opening for Rascal Flatts
we had Gary on here and Iremember very clearly watching
their show after we played atseven o'clock and played four or
five songs and that point theywere fighting massive.

Speaker 1 (18:54):
I mean they were the biggest, one of the biggest
bands in the world they werefiring.

Speaker 6 (18:58):
I remember I think we're all sitting watching this
I remember saying man, could youimagine like coming to an arena
that you're headlining, youknow, and it's still like just
sitting here with you guys.
It's like I, that's what I.
I still get off on that.
Like you know, the grind was soI wouldn't change a mile of it.

Speaker 1 (19:23):
No, not one mile of any bus ride, you know, or
anything, or van ride, you know,and that's that's what's great
about the business, yeah, well,and I think that's where, like
as bandmates, as, like you know,brothers on the road, kind of
thing, like that's where youlearn to like, that's where you
gel, you know the when you'restaying in the crappy hotel
rooms and you know you'rewheeling your luggage down, you

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know a1a to go to a you know aplace to take a shower, because
there's no place at the venueand we're all lugging our shit
down the street.
You know, it's like.
You know, you learned it.
Like pride becomes a thing oflike you don't have pride in the
daytime, you just there's onlylike an hour and a half, two

(20:09):
hours a night where you're cool.
Where you're cool and, and Ithink, like you know, you just
live with everybody.
I mean, we're on the road 250days a year or whatever it is,
and it's like you just getreally tight and learn to like.
I mean, it's family, you know,and and so, um, I don't know for
it to start kind of like it did, and us to still be, like you

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were saying, like with you know,rascal flats, I remember
walking out and just going, man,like we're, even though we were
close, like we were playing onthe same show and whatever it
was like this is a different,this is a different thing, and I
don't know how to go.
Take us from Hicktown and Y to.
You know what hurts the most?

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I don't, that's a, you know.
Obviously it was a song thatwas their big one, that really
launched them into thestratosphere, and like we're
sitting there on tour with themwatching that and I'm like man,
we aren't there yet.
You know, and I don't know howto get there and I remember
asking kevin neal, who has beenmy agent forever and just like
og fam guy that's been with usfrom the beginning, and I

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remember pulling backstage we'reopening for tim mcgraw at tampa
at the ask gary up at thewhatever that thing's called.
Yeah and so we pull in, tim'sgot all his buses and trucks and
stuff back there.
And I just remember going, man,like this is ridiculous, like
how do we go from our thing tothis thing?
And and I remember kevin goingor I said what does it take to

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go from that type, from ourthing to that thing?
And he's like three and a halfminutes.
Man, you just, you just needthe right three and a half
minutes, meaning it takes onesong to change the game.
And when she's country came out, man, that was the one, it just
it lit the fuse for that.
And then we backed, you know,that album had some big ones on
it, and then we followed it upwith my kind of party record and

(22:02):
night train and it was justlike a rocket after that.
So you know, I think we didn'tknow how to make that happen.
And then all of a sudden wewere just like strapped to a
rocket in the middle of it.
You know, it's like we didn'teven see it coming.

Speaker 6 (22:17):
Really, but all those showcases what I love thinking
about, though, you know, forlike 10 people sometimes, oh
yeah, 15 people.
Two people Stretching it.
Two people, or maybe it was 20,then it went down to four.
Record companies would come in.

Speaker 1 (22:35):
It'd be like the president of the record company
and it'd be like Tony Brown,larry Willoughby and then one
other A&R person Go in you playa couple songs.
I'd watch them talk to Knox fora minute and then shit, they'd
leave.

Speaker 6 (22:48):
You know, and you're just like, hey, I'm assuming
you're not in Not having thefirst song sometimes, but we
never stopped performing and Ithink what that set us up for
was those years of opening andplaying clubs, because even when
hicktown was moving up thecharts, we'd still like we may

(23:10):
play a market one night whereit's a pack club, but then the
next night there could be 50people there.
So I think it set us up forlike we played every show, which
I'm this is what I'm most proudof we never took a night off
you never took a night off.
You never mailed one in, and Ithink that's well, I think it
was a different time too.

Speaker 1 (23:28):
I mean, I think at the time we came out, you know,
we didn't have social media andall that stuff to kind of like
help the process it wasn't likehey, we're in Owensboro,
kentucky, tonight.
Come see us like we didn't havethat.
So it was like you had to do itgrassroots style.
You had to go out and play abar and just punch them right in

(23:50):
the face so they would go andtell all their friends holy shit
, you guys missed this.
You got to come see these guysand then the next time we come
back to town, it was justconstantly hitting them over the
head, going, hey, if you missedit last time, you better come
this time.
And we would ramp it up everytime.
And as we started getting alittle bit more of a following
you know, I mean on stage westart getting a little bit more

(24:11):
swagger and you know, okay, wegot a couple hits.
Now we can, you know it's youstart to turn that corner a
little bit and you know, and wejust had to do it that way, we
didn't have another option.
So, um, you know, it wasgetting your songs played on
radio, trying to get a video oncmt and going out and just
playing as many shows as youcould and basically just not

(24:31):
coming off the road, which iswhat we did for a few years.

Speaker 8 (24:34):
So man I was kind of curious about, because you
mentioned making records andstuff.
Like, let's say, you're youknow a couple singles deep and
you're thinking about recordinga new one and everything In your
mind are you thinking aboutbecause not everybody does
records and you're still cuttingrecords and everything and
putting a bunch of songs onthere.
People are just releasing stuff, just putting it out.
Putting it out, do you have atheme?

(24:56):
Do you think, hey, I want to dothis, or do you wait to find a
couple songs that are like, okay, I love this.
Couple songs it's like, okay, Ilove this and you build
something around it like what,what's your, what's your mindset
?

Speaker 1 (25:07):
the one yeah, the way it's always worked for me is
like I've never gone in and went.
Oh, I want to go cut thisreally artsy.
You know bluegrassy countryrecord, kind of like.
I don't, we don't do that.
Like for me, it's songs come inand I just have I don't know.
Like for me, I just have thisthing.
When I hear the song, I'm like Ilove it.

(25:28):
I want to listen to that songagain.
I feel like I could sing that.
I feel like, you know, italmost feels like a song that I
wrote.
Like that's how I feel.
I love the melody.
You know I can do that and Iwant to hear that again.
I want to play it over and overand over.
When I get those songs in, theygo in a pile, and so it's never
really about like what the albumlooks like.

(25:49):
It's just one day I turn aroundand there's like 15 songs in
that pile and it's like okay,and then some of them may fall
out.
I'd be like, hey, that one'skind of getting old, like I
don't, you know, with thesesongs that I've just kind of
accumulated or found, or theseguys have written or we've

(26:09):
written or whatever.
And then you'd look over thereand go, all right, let's go cut
all this stuff.
And then we go cut it all andit it just turns out the way it
does.
You know, it's like it'snothing.
You know, I don't think we everoverthink that stuff or sit
there and go, oh, we need thisor we need that.
It's like, man, I like that,that's what I want to sing.
I think that'll be cool for arecord or that'll be cool for a
live thing or whatever its laneis for that record.

(26:33):
And there's things that I loveand take in there knocks hates.
There's things I love theseguys don't really like sometimes
, but I think for me those songsin my mind, mind, if I cut a
song, if I go in, spend the timeto cut it, sing it, spend time
on it, to me it has a placesomewhere.
I may not always know exactlywhat that is or we may not get

(26:56):
to it at some point, but to meit's like, hey, that thing is
good enough to cut and like itcould have a moment somewhere,
and I don't know what that lookslike, but let's cut it, it's
good enough to cut.

Speaker 3 (27:06):
I think anything I've ever had cut that you've cut of
mine you were never in mind,ever, when writing it.

Speaker 1 (27:14):
Yeah, it was never yeah, because you guys were
writing for people that werebigger.

Speaker 3 (27:18):
No, no, no, no, no, no, no no no, no no no, no, no,
no, no, you're wrong.
No, it was about writing.

Speaker 1 (27:23):
No, I'm not, it was just about writing.
You didn't start writing for meuntil I hit you, neil, neil.

Speaker 8 (27:29):
I should have kept my damn mouth shut.
Neil, Neil, start over.
Where else are you going to gowith?

Speaker 7 (27:31):
this no, no, no no.

Speaker 3 (27:34):
It was just about writing a good song.
We didn't have anybody in mind.

Speaker 1 (27:50):
Nobody.
Writers go, hey, what's what'sal dean, what's he want to say?
And I go, I don't know what hewants to say to me.
Never have to me.
It's I never have to me.
It's things you know that I canrelate to or or things that,
like you know, I'm like oh, Ilove that.
Like you know that little trillor that, you know that melody
or whatever, that bridge orwhatever it is.
And then it's like you startbreaking down the song.
It's like you know, I feel,feel like that's something I
would want to get in the roomand write or, like you know, be

(28:10):
a part of, or like I don't know.
And so when I hear those songs,it's I mean like try it in a
small town.
I mean I don't even think Iheard the whole song, I just
heard like a verse coursestopped.
It called them like hey, westopped it called them like hey,
we're cutting this thing, likesoon.
I mean, and I immediatelystarted sending it to everybody
going hey, this is our firstsingle off the record, you know,

(28:31):
and we had never even cut ityet.
But I'm like this is a single.
We need to get a video goal,cause I just knew like that was
a song that was going to movethe needle, like it, you know,
it was touching on a subjectthat I was passionate about.
That was something that I feltlike needed to be touched on and
I felt like man, somebody'sgoing to come out and say this

(28:51):
Well, no, we did say there'sonly one dude that will ever cut
this song.

Speaker 3 (28:55):
As good as the song is there's only one dude that'll
say it.

Speaker 1 (29:01):
I heard the gun part and I went oh, they'll probably,
you know, say something aboutthat, and here we go, and that
was it.
But it's like when I hear thosethings, like that it's you know
, I mean we got things we've cutfor the new album, and it's
just like I get in my truck andit's like I mean they're on
repeat and I just don't gettired of them quick, I play them

(29:23):
.
I mean, I have to play them tolearn them, and so I'm just like
I want to play them a lot andit's, if I still keep liking
them, I'm like all right, Igotta trust that.
That's a gut instinct thing, Igotta trust that.
And if it's one that I'm likeyou know, this one's in the pile
but I keep skipping over it,I'm like that's one I need to
look at and go, man, I don'tknow, I don't, I don't know, I
don't think that one's gonnalike if it does something, it's

(29:45):
gonna be an album cut, it's notgonna, and I know that going in.

Speaker 4 (29:48):
right, so we'll give people a little insight, because
you know we were talking abouthicktown.
That was 20 years ago.
Uh, we have been recording anew album this year.
Can you give people any kind ofinsight what they might expect
for the album coming up,anything to look forward to, any
kind of yeah, I mean secrets?

Speaker 1 (30:08):
any, we got some stuff going on.
You know, um, you know there'sgoing to be some duet stuff on
this record, multiple duetthings, I think breaking news
right here.
You got exclusive, I mean, butwe've been working on this.

Speaker 4 (30:20):
I mean writing for these guys been writing.

Speaker 1 (30:21):
We've been working on this, I mean writing for it.
These guys have been writing.
We've been writing andrecording stuff for the last
eight months or so somethinglike that.
I don't know, but we got someduets on it and I think we're
kind of at a different place.

Speaker 3 (30:40):
You're not going to name names.
No Duets, I don't think it'stime for that.

Speaker 1 (30:45):
I got to get some of these people on tape before I
start going oh so-and-so's doingthe song.

Speaker 7 (30:50):
No, I'm not.

Speaker 1 (30:53):
But we got some cool things like that and, like I
said earlier, man, I think someof the coolest songs and I feel
like I'm at a point in my careerin what we do that you know
certain songs that I probablywould have cut back in the day a
little tongue in cheek or likewhatever and put these things
out and go oh, I wonder if that,you know, this is kind of
quirky.
I think we're at a differentplace now where it's like we

(31:16):
want to like put out just thingsthat we think are really cool,
that we want to go out and play.
You know that fire us up to geton stage and go hey, you know,
this isn't these kinds of songs,these are.
It's a different era, I think,for what we're doing and really
cool stuff.
Man, some of the stuff we got onthe on the album is like

(31:36):
throwback 80 stuff, and thenthere's some really like
progressive stuff and it's kindof like if anybody's bought one
of our albums over the years, Imean you got everything from
country, rock and roll, r&b,hip-hop, blues, I mean there's a
little bit of all of it and Idon't think this record's any
different.
I mean, I think that's a lot ofthat, but I think, um, there's

(31:58):
some.
There's some pretty strong oneson this record, by the way you
could give him.

Speaker 6 (32:03):
I'm sorry, kirk, you could give a master class and
should to young artists aboutreally paying attention to your
fan base, because I've neverseen an artist more tapped in
which plays in the Try that in aSmall Town thing, tapped into
who.
You know who your fan base isand how to grow it, but also how

(32:25):
to keep it.
You know, and I think we justbe honest.
I think that's good they get toowrapped up with what so-and-so
gonna think on music row,because that's that's the issue,
like find what you do, go outand do it, don't chase.
Don't chase the trends.
Experiment when you can yeah,you know, with with success
gives you a little bit more ropebut also when to dial it in.

(32:48):
I think it's a, it's a, it's areally a lost art like, I think,
the new artist well, I've never.

Speaker 1 (32:55):
I've never had anybody go in and like pick my
songs out and go, here's yourrecord.
Like I just don't do that.
You know what I mean.
Like a and r people I don'tknow like they're great, but
except for to me personally,when it comes to picking songs,
I don't.

(33:15):
I trust one per, michael knox.
Yeah, it kind of gets.
You know, I mean, and we're notalways on the same.
These guys get it because theyplayed with me for so long.
And you know I mean, and we'renot always on the same, these
guys get it because they playedwith me for so long and you know
we kind of come from the samebackground.
So they know, like, if it'ssomething I would say or not say
or you know whatever, but it'slike I just don't trust people
to go and find those songs forme.

(33:36):
I just don't think it's goingto happen because they're in
this town.
Everybody comes.
Oh, I found that you knowso-and-so wrote this huge hit
and they play it for you and I'mlike, no, that's like.
No, that's not even an album cutfor me and you know, but
they're trying to sell you that.
It's a big hit, you know, andit's like I've done this long
enough to know when one's abadass and one's not, you know,

(34:11):
and so you know I just to melike that's a really important
piece of the puzzle becausewithout that, the touring and
the all the other stuff, thatdoesn't happen.
So you know, coming down tosongs, making sure that you know
at least the core you got, Ialways like to make sure we got
about six or eight things on therecord that are like single
worthy that I know I'm prettygood with putting any of those
six or eight out.
You know they're pretty solidand so and that's kind of how
I've always done it.
And you know, I think as aswe've gotten older these guys
have become better songwriters,which is, you know, they used to

(34:34):
write stuff and send to me andI'll be like nope is that?

Speaker 8 (34:38):
is that the biggest surprise of your career?
That these two guys have gottenbetter songwriters.
That's the biggest.

Speaker 1 (34:42):
I'll tell you you what it is a blessing, it's fair
, yeah, it's been a blessingbecause, honestly, when they
first kind of started writingand Tully and I started writing
together in 99, we startedwriting songs and stuff.
They weren't good but we werewriting them and we cut a few of
them and so you know.
But I think at some point theseguys would write stuff.

(35:03):
But I think at some point theseguys would write stuff and they
started trying to get somesongs on the album, which was
great.
Anytime you don't have to golooking for something.
You've got guys coming in goinghey man, here's a badass song,
and check this out.
That's a great thing for me.
But in the beginning, when theywould do something every now and
then there would be somethingcool like Kurt had they don't

(35:24):
know, I think it was a singleforce Kurt had at one point and
then they kind of startedwriting some things that were
coming in and it's like that'scool.
But in the beginning it waslike no, that ain't it, that
ain't the one.
And then every once in a whilethey'd get one in and and then

(35:45):
they're get two in and then nowit's like just essentially a
collaboration.
You know, these guys arewriting every day for the record
.
We're bouncing ideas around allthe time and, um, it's just
kind of become a differentdynamic now, which is really fun
, I think, for all of us to kindof not only record it and get
to go play it, but to, like youknow us, write it and just kind
of have it all in house with ourlittle crew that we started

(36:05):
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Speaker 3 (41:01):
Well, we're not either.
We're just trying to decidewhat we want to bring up next.

Speaker 4 (41:08):
Well, I got this.
We've been talking a little bitabout the Titans.
You know the draft.
They just got Cam Ward Screwthe NFL.

Speaker 3 (41:14):
Let's talk college.

Speaker 1 (41:17):
Oh, come on real quick.
Well, the draft just happened,so I get it.
It just happened.

Speaker 4 (41:20):
First of all, Cam Ward, wait and see, or do you
like it?

Speaker 1 (41:24):
I to wait and see.
I mean, I think all these guyscoming out of college, you know
they all have a lot of hypearound them and you know it's.
I mean, no question, they'regreat athletes and whatever, but
I mean you guys are sports fanstoo.
I mean, until they get in,whatever that team system is,
and it either clicks or itdoesn't, and then it wasn't the
best quarterback stable comingout of college.

Speaker 3 (41:46):
No, let's get to the other one, I feel like we got
the best available.
I do too.
I agree with that.

Speaker 1 (41:53):
They tried to get some weapons for him too.

Speaker 3 (41:55):
That's the other thing I think Jackson Dart's
going to be something special.
I really do, Really.
No, I do.
I think he's cut out for theNFL.
Milrow is not from Bama and I'ma Bama guy.
He went to Seattle I mean he'snot going to make it in the NFL.
He's not going to make it heylet's get to the big news.

Speaker 4 (42:14):
The big quarterback is.
Shadur Sanders.
That was the big news of theweek.
That's the big story.

Speaker 1 (42:22):
So what do you guys think the thing is?
Because here's the thing I love, I'm a Georgia guy, right?
I remember.
Do you guys think the thing is?
Because here's the thing I love, I'm a georgia guy, right?
I remember when deon gotdrafted by the falcons, he
played for the braves.
Like I'm a deon fan.
He brought a little swagger toatlanta that they had not had, I
mean up until then.
Like our big guy was dalemurphy, you know what I mean?

(42:43):
Our quarterback was stevebarkowski, I think back in the
day.
And like deon comes to Atlanta,he's got a little flash, he's
got a little swagger, and itbrought that whole thing kind of
to the table.

Speaker 3 (42:54):
Shadur, ain't no Deion.

Speaker 1 (42:56):
Well, no, however, go ahead.
I know that Deion wasrepresenting his Shadur, as like
his agent, right.

Speaker 4 (43:04):
Like that was the thing.
So that's the problem.
It isn't that the player hasswag.

Speaker 1 (43:09):
You now are dealing with the dad, the dad and the
agent, for sure and, and I thinkthat's a situation where, you
know, I think it gets a littleweird when it's like, well, I
don't want to play for that team, I only want to play for the,
you know, uh, new york team or ala team or this.
It's like.
I mean, I grew up playingsports too, and that was I.

(43:30):
I mean, music was a hobby,sports was like my passion
growing up, and had I gottendrafted to play baseball out of
high school, I could have beendrafted by the worst team in the
league.
They could have given me a damnsnicker bar and a bus ticket
and said hey, you know, soundsgood.
Go to wherever Texas, texas, andthat's you're going to start

(43:51):
playing rookie ball there andI'd have been, I'd have been
stoked Right and I think that'sthe difference.
I think it's just, you know,being honored that a NFL
franchise would want to draftyou and, like, make you part of
their team and give you thatopportunity, I think is a huge
deal, and to go into that stuffgoing, I don't know if I want to
play for that team.

(44:11):
I don't know if I want to playfor that team.
It's like I don't know thatthat was the case with him or
whatever.

Speaker 4 (44:18):
Do you think it was retaliation by the NFL or
collusion to say, hey, don'tdrop this kid, he's trying to.
You know, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (44:24):
I don't know.
I mean, I will say thisEverything that I heard going up
to it was he was afirst-rounder, you know, at
worst a second-round pick, andfor him to slip as far as he did
, it just tells me like therewas other things.
I mean Go ahead and say it,it's fine.
I mean it?
just says like there's teamsthat are going, man, I don't
know it's an attitude thing, orit's dealing with his dad, or we

(44:48):
don't think he's our guy orlike whatever, or we just don't
need a quarterback.
You know that's the other thing.
There's a lot of teams you knowthat really don't need a
quarterback, that don't want tospend that money.
So I mean you've got a handfulof teams that are going.
You know, we're kind of tryingto figure it out.
We could use him maybe he's ourguy and whatever and you're
trying to land on one of thoseteams.

Speaker 3 (45:08):
Look at the patriots back in the day.
Look at him.
That's a different deal bradywas.
I'm just talking about lockerroom.
I'm not talking about on thefield, I'm talking about before
they even run out on the field.
It's the locker room and Ithink shador sanders was going
to be bad for the locker room.
Brady was the best thing forany locker room in the history
of football.

Speaker 1 (45:28):
But I think he probably grew into that too.
I mean, you've got to grow intothat.
You're not going to come out ofcollege and go in and take over
a locker room.
You're going to go in and wantto fit in.
I'm not talking about yeah, I'mtalking, and, as you prove
yourself, you kind of take overthe locker room.
I'm talking about being ateammate.

Speaker 3 (45:45):
You can tell I don't know the guys that think about
themselves only and then theguys that think about the team.
You have that or that, and theresults speak for themselves.

Speaker 1 (45:55):
I don't know, is he even good enough to play
quarterback?
I feel like it was weird.

Speaker 3 (45:58):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (45:59):
I feel like it was weird, because he was projected
to be a first-rounder, at latesta second-rounder.

Speaker 3 (46:06):
Some people had him at number one.

Speaker 1 (46:07):
It was almost like, oh, we're going to show you, and
so I don't know.
I don't know what it was.
And then, of all teams, theBrowns, who have the worst
record in picking quarterbacksever.

Speaker 4 (46:17):
They're quarterback rounder.
They're like we'll take aquarterback because shit one of
them's got to hit at some point.
They took the kid from Oregonlike the round or two before the
Dylan Gabriel.
I don't know if you guys knowwho he is, but they took him.

Speaker 1 (46:31):
Manziel.

Speaker 5 (46:32):
Couch, I mean they've Deshaun Watson.
Well, they didn't draft him,but he's there.

Speaker 1 (46:36):
He was great in Houston.
I mean he's also had a lot ofoff-the-field issues.

Speaker 6 (46:40):
Well, he had a massager too going wrong.

Speaker 1 (46:42):
Achilles, he what's going on.

Speaker 3 (46:52):
You know I'm a Bama guy and I would have taken
Shadur over Milrow.
Same I would have taken Shadurover Milrow.
I would have.

Speaker 1 (46:56):
I think Shadur was probably the second best
quarterback in the draft.
I think he's better than Dart.

Speaker 3 (47:02):
I'd give him third or fourth.

Speaker 1 (47:07):
Again.
I think it's like you've got to.
What system is he in?
Does it click with him?
Does he have the weapons aroundhim offensive line and all the
stuff to protect him?
It's just a lot of those.
You have the best quarterbackin the world, you put him on a
shitty team and they can't getit done.

Speaker 6 (47:19):
That's right.
Well, nfl too, especially, Imean, he doesn't look like an
NFL QB to me.

Speaker 1 (47:28):
He's like a new age, though he's like a Lamar Jackson
.

Speaker 6 (47:31):
He doesn't have the mental side of it, though,
because that's the other thingtoo, brady.
I love this part about Bradybecause he knew what was going
to go on.

Speaker 1 (47:43):
He's a freak though.
He's just a freak.

Speaker 7 (47:44):
He put the time in.

Speaker 6 (47:45):
He knew how to read the defense.
He knew what he was going to do.
What's made up for his slow,never ran.

Speaker 1 (47:53):
Lack of mobility.

Speaker 6 (47:55):
He knew he would step up into the pocket under
trouble and just figure it out.
I don't know if Chador is goingto have that side of the game.

Speaker 3 (48:04):
I'm just sitting over here.
Kalo's kind of silent.

Speaker 1 (48:07):
Are you not a sports guy?
No, he's a UT guy and he hasn'tbrought up Nico.
He doesn't have anything tocheer about.

Speaker 3 (48:12):
He hasn't brought up Nico yet.

Speaker 8 (48:14):
Nico's gone.
Well, yeah, but that wasn't theconversation you should be
doing for that clapping.

Speaker 1 (48:20):
You should be thankful, I agree, be glad you
got rid of him.

Speaker 8 (48:24):
I wanted to hear what your take was on it as a.
Ut fan a bleeding orange fan mytakeaway would bleed into
everything you guys are saying.
It's a locker room thing.
If Nico would have stayed, badfor the locker room.
Yeah, and same with what you'resaying with Shador, like the
locker room thing.
I think sometimes people don'twant to deal with that and they

(48:45):
don't want to mess with all theother players and all the other
players qb, you know, if theydon't like that person as a
personality.

Speaker 1 (48:58):
I mean in any business and nfl is, I know,
sports, but it is a business andif you're not, if you are not
likable, it is very difficult tobe successful that's a fact,
yeah, and I think, like you know, nc I mean college football
anymore has gotten to the pointwhere, like, when you're
bringing these kids in, you knowNCAA I mean college football
anymore has gotten to the pointwhere, like, when you're
bringing these kids in, you know, you almost have to make sure
they check all the boxes, like,yes, they're a great player, you
know, but they're also likethey're good for the team.

(49:20):
They're, you know, a locker roompresence that comes in and you
know, because that's the thingyou can have a stud on the team
that does all the.
I mean, georgia had one, carsonBeck.
You know he's supposed to bethe greatest guy.
The locker room, from what Ihear, was like they just weren't
behind the guy.
You know, I mean GunnarStockton comes in and all of a

(49:40):
sudden they're like that's ourguy, we want to get behind the
you know, and that's there yougo and that's the thing.
You got to have a guy in alocker room.
That's sort of the no bullshitguy.
That's like, hey, you know,I'll see you prancing around
over there when you scoretouchdown.
Don't do that shit, you know.
Like that's not, that's notwhat we're about.
You know whether he's thequarterback or the damn whatever

(50:01):
you know.
And so I think every team hasto have those guys, because the
coaches aren't around, theycan't handle it all.
Like sometimes it has to comewithin, from the team, from the
players, and like you know, youjust you got to have those guys
on every team.
It should do with that guy.
I don't know, I don't think so,but you know it's.
I think it's also being in thenfl, getting around guys that

(50:22):
are like he.
He's different too, like he'shad a pedigree, an nfl pedigree,
I, he's grown up around that.
So it's like it's not like mostkids where they're like holy
shit, this is the NFL.
He's like I've been doing this,I've been around this my whole
life.

Speaker 6 (50:35):
But you know, these teams, like these owners, these
teams, they want to win at allcosts.
If they thought he had it, hewould have not slid to the fifth
round.

Speaker 1 (50:47):
But it's also like they want to win.

Speaker 6 (50:49):
If they thought he had some hidden, just is going
to blow up and be the best thingever, they would have taken him
.

Speaker 1 (50:59):
There's something that's not, whether it's his
attitude or however he handledinterviews and things.
Not his athletic ability at allDealing with I mean the guy on
the field, no question.

Speaker 4 (51:09):
He's got skills talented he's great and you know
.

Speaker 1 (51:11):
But like, aside from that, like, what are you going
to bring to the table.

Speaker 3 (51:14):
So was nico.
Nico was like his stupidtalented kid, but ut handled
that situation exactly.

Speaker 8 (51:20):
I love how they did and they handled that situation
like he, he's very talented butlike he was, he was ranked.
Like you know, was ranked inSEC, not even halfway through as
far as his numbers go.
Very talented.

Speaker 1 (51:33):
It's like the rest of Tennessee, we know.

Speaker 8 (51:35):
Listen.
No respect at all We'll beright back.
We'll be right back.
Message from Patriot Bowl.

Speaker 1 (51:49):
But you know, it's like any more, like college kids
I mean.
And granted, like I'm on thetrain with like I think college
kids should be paid to play Likeright, like their days.
It's not like a normal collegekid.
They don't just get to go toclass and go home and study and
it's like dude, whether it'sbaseball, dude it there.
Whether it's baseball, football, whatever it's like, it is a

(52:11):
thing, it is a job.

Speaker 7 (52:12):
When you're in college and so do.

Speaker 1 (52:14):
I think those guys should be compensated for that.
Yeah, they, they can't reallygo work or do whatever, so I
think they should be, shouldmake enough money to like, get
them through whatever, whatever.
I think there should be somesort of cap on that so you don't
have one guy making $6 milliona year and then his offensive
line.
The guy that's protecting it ismaking $50 grand.

Speaker 8 (52:34):
There's no cap, not currently.

Speaker 1 (52:38):
The fact that they let this happen and didn't see
this coming and knew that it wasgoing to get out of hand and
knew that it was going to be allthe switching.
You've got to be smarter.

Speaker 3 (52:49):
I know that Trump and Saban had a little meeting.

Speaker 4 (52:52):
Oh, I saw that actually.
Yeah, they had like one ofthose guys we don't know.

Speaker 3 (52:55):
I know.

Speaker 8 (52:58):
Let's play a game.

Speaker 3 (53:00):
You love both of them ?
No, I do not.

Speaker 1 (53:03):
You just wish he— I had a chance to meet Nick Saban
in Augusta playing AugustaNational and my caddy goes.
You know who that is in frontof us?
That's Nick Saban.
You want to meet him when wemake the turn and I said no.

Speaker 3 (53:14):
Why, why would you?
What's the problem?
Listen, I think he's a greatcoach.

Speaker 1 (53:19):
Seriously, I know what's the problem.
He does nothing for me.
He did a lot, businessman.

Speaker 3 (53:22):
It's about me when he goes, do you want to meet him?
And I said, no, I do not.

Speaker 1 (53:30):
That's how I got brought into it?
What if he wanted?

Speaker 3 (53:33):
to meet you.
He loves music.
He probably loves your music.
Listen, I hate.

Speaker 1 (53:37):
Steve Spurrier too.
Well, I did, and then I tellhim what a great coach he is.
Your red and black is dark inyour heart, so bad.

Speaker 3 (53:53):
Your red and black is dark and you're unbelievable.
Oh my gosh, good God, amadi.
I love the sports, aldean,better than the music, aldean.

Speaker 4 (54:02):
I love this.

Speaker 7 (54:03):
I would rather talk sports with him.

Speaker 3 (54:06):
We could talk sports with Aldina all day long.

Speaker 1 (54:08):
Let's just don't talk about Braves.
They started 0-7.

Speaker 4 (54:12):
Let's go to another coaching legend.
I'll guide this to Tully.
What's going on with BillBelichick?
He's having a great time.
What are you?

Speaker 6 (54:21):
talking about Six rings 25-year-old girlfriend.
What's not right with him?
I mean crazy.

Speaker 3 (54:29):
Coming from Tully Kennedy.

Speaker 1 (54:31):
I don't understand why everybody's giving him a
hard time.

Speaker 6 (54:33):
I don't either.
I don't get it.
He's put his time in.

Speaker 1 (54:36):
It's a little weird.

Speaker 3 (54:37):
It's a little weird.

Speaker 1 (54:37):
Maybe she's a little bossy, but I saw a picture.

Speaker 3 (54:41):
A lot of them are Somebody posted a picture in
1999, and Bill Bel 99 and billbelichick was a full grown adult
.

Speaker 7 (54:51):
And somebody's holding this little infant and
it's that's his girlfriend.

Speaker 6 (54:53):
I think it was 99 and it was like I saw it.
I'm like that's wrong, I can'tlook at that, she's 25 or 26,
right?

Speaker 1 (54:58):
yeah, look, he deserves to do whatever he wants
to do, yeah, here we go.
Listen.
I say if you, I say if Bill, ifhe's got something in common
with that 25-year-old girl, hey,explore it.
You know, explore the studiospace, you never know.

(55:19):
Oh my God, hey.

Speaker 3 (55:20):
but in the meantime, they both dye their hair.
That's all they have in common.
That's it.

Speaker 1 (55:24):
Listen, I don't know.
I just know he's awesome, he'sa great coach.
I don't even like the Patriots,but he was a great coach, great
coach.

Speaker 6 (55:31):
Well, you said it, he ain't hurt nobody.

Speaker 3 (55:34):
Don't change the subject, I'm not.
I'm just going to.

Speaker 6 (55:36):
No.

Speaker 1 (55:36):
I want to stay on this subject.

Speaker 6 (55:37):
He is the greatest.

Speaker 1 (55:40):
You're saying that because you're a Patriots fan.

Speaker 3 (55:43):
No, Saban's the greatest, not Belichick.

Speaker 1 (55:45):
Cowboys fans would say Tom Landry's the greatest.

Speaker 6 (55:48):
I think it's hard not to look at him.
Kenny Rogers is the greatest.

Speaker 8 (55:51):
No no.

Speaker 6 (55:53):
Kenny Rogers.

Speaker 1 (55:55):
First concert ever.

Speaker 6 (55:56):
Right Belichick is the greatest because the way he
won those Super.
Bowls, he really.
I mean, it was a system likegreat defense all the time.

Speaker 4 (56:06):
I would say Don Shula's the greatest.
See, Well you would.
He won with differentquarterbacks.

Speaker 1 (56:12):
I cannot say that Dan Reeves, that closed the Falcons
, was the greatest.

Speaker 3 (56:16):
Are we talking about all sports?
Are we talking about collegeNFL as a collaborative?
So you're going to put somebodyabove Bear Bryant?
Seriously, who's Bear Bryant?
Oh, my gosh, I mean, lightningjust struck.
I'm joking, you're out, wow.

Speaker 1 (56:35):
Alabama's got a great history.
Bear Bryant, I mean I think youhave those iconic guys.

Speaker 4 (56:40):
Yeah, I don't know, Vince Lombardi.
I wasn't around so I don't knowSame.

Speaker 6 (56:45):
I love football.
I love talking football.
Draftkings can't get here fastenough.
Can we start playing?

Speaker 1 (56:51):
DraftKings on golf or baseball or soccer.
We did it.
We actually tried it, but I dolove the greats, the Shulas, the
Belichicks.

Speaker 6 (56:58):
I mean, how can you not?

Speaker 3 (57:01):
Does Aldine know about our match, our golf match?

Speaker 1 (57:03):
I've heard you guys talk about this.

Speaker 4 (57:05):
Well, maybe we should .

Speaker 3 (57:10):
You've got gotta include me in this.
Oh, you want, you want some youwant in?

Speaker 1 (57:15):
yeah, you know, but I mean, who's the teams?

Speaker 4 (57:16):
I feel like because I think this is the way to do it,
because cleatus was on here,neil, yeah, you're basically
scratch.
Cleatus is basically scratch.
You guys are on separate teams.
You divide all of us.

Speaker 1 (57:31):
Then we're the kids on the playground who don't want
to get picked last, especiallyme.

Speaker 6 (57:37):
We'll all be last.
You're going to get picked last.

Speaker 4 (57:39):
I know, but.
I mean those should be theteams.
Then we'll do whatever yeah.

Speaker 1 (57:46):
Just split you and Cletus up, or we could all be
against you still.

Speaker 3 (57:50):
Well, we talked about just having you guys and
whatever your handicaps was, Igive you strokes.
It's a lot On each side, andthat's fine.
I don't know if I even have it.

Speaker 6 (57:59):
I mean, I have a handicap, I'll give you a stroke
every hole.

Speaker 3 (58:01):
What is it you?

Speaker 1 (58:02):
three and Cletus.

Speaker 3 (58:04):
Against Neil, against Neal.
It's not fair with Cletus.

Speaker 8 (58:06):
Well, if.
Cletus were on that team,because he's a stick.

Speaker 3 (58:09):
Well, yeah, cletus is a stick and I'm like, okay, now
we're not.

Speaker 1 (58:15):
It defeats everything we're trying to do here.
It should be like you andsomebody against Cletus and the
rest.

Speaker 8 (58:21):
Yeah Right, I don't know how, caleb, I don't know
what you play.

Speaker 3 (58:30):
I hadn't practiced in four years.
I'm bogey golf.
Why don't me?
And you play them three inCletus.
Hold on, what was that?
We still need strokes.

Speaker 1 (58:35):
Me and Neil against you guys in Cletus.

Speaker 4 (58:38):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (58:39):
I mean.

Speaker 4 (58:42):
Really it's you against Cletus?
Yeah, we're just there.
No one's going to use any of myshots.

Speaker 3 (58:48):
I'll let you read my putts.
I can't see the five of y'allriding in one golf cart together
.
I just can't see it.
Well, you're about to.

Speaker 8 (58:54):
Surely we get two golf carts.

Speaker 1 (58:55):
Listen, that's minor detail stuff.

Speaker 8 (58:58):
No, you have to handicap it right.
That's what the candidate so ifyou're involved, if you're
involved.

Speaker 1 (59:09):
Can you set it up at Troubadour, or do you want to
play here?
Let's play here.

Speaker 3 (59:11):
I feel like I play at Troubadour.
Unless you want to play atTroubadour, I don't care where
we play.
I can do either one.
It's a ball and a ball game.

Speaker 7 (59:14):
I haven't played here in years, so I play here.

Speaker 8 (59:19):
Is there drinking involved?
Yes, no, absolutely not.

Speaker 1 (59:21):
I just want you to get that.
I mean, if Tully you don't havethat here though.

Speaker 3 (59:26):
What we create.

Speaker 6 (59:27):
That here we just bring a cooler we don't have.

Speaker 3 (59:29):
We don't have the amenities that they have at
Troubadour.
Yeah, this is a private course.
So is Troubadour.

Speaker 1 (59:35):
This one.
This one's like you know, shirtbuttoned up and all that.

Speaker 3 (59:39):
Ours is you can wear flip flops.

Speaker 8 (59:41):
This is McCabe's.

Speaker 3 (59:42):
Flip flops.
And speaking of flip flops,flip-flops has anybody ever seen
Michael Knox in flip-flops?

Speaker 4 (59:47):
No, no Only New Balance white tennis shoes.

Speaker 1 (59:50):
Dude bathing suit, white New Balance and a tank top
Walking on the beach.
I don't know that I've everseen his damn feet, which is a
good thing?

Speaker 4 (01:00:01):
Yeah, probably I don't know, I don't know, I
don't know how we got here, hey,if anybody from New Balance
Tennis Shoes is listening.

Speaker 1 (01:00:09):
My producer, michael Knox, has paid your bills for a
long time.
Send that man a fresh set ofjust solid white leather ones.

Speaker 4 (01:00:18):
And Motorola, because he still has the flip phone.

Speaker 3 (01:00:20):
Oh, he still has the flip phone.
He still does.
I admire that.

Speaker 1 (01:00:23):
He still does like the T9 texting.

Speaker 8 (01:00:27):
I admire it.
So I saw this on Facebook theother other day, so it has to be
facebook.
Oh uh, are you still in thatmassive lawsuit with whoopi
goldberg?
I think it's up to 10 billiondollars, what?

Speaker 1 (01:00:41):
are you suing her for ?
No, but I, I mean, I obviouslyI saw that stuff too.
I didn't sue those people, butthere was some stuff said, I
think, during that whole thingwhen the song came out, like
just you know theirinterpretation of what they

(01:01:02):
thought I was and all that thing.
Sonny Hosen for the most part,and I feel like I coulda you
know, yeah, I definitely couldaand um, I just feel like if
you're watching that show, man,you know whatever, but I mean I
can't even have that argumentwith you if you're watching the
show.
We have nothing in common.

(01:01:22):
So that's a fact.
But yeah, I, it was one ofthose things where I don't know.

Speaker 8 (01:01:29):
But I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:01:30):
What did it say?
I got how much.

Speaker 8 (01:01:33):
No, it's a loss that you sued for like $10 billion,
Like it started out.

Speaker 1 (01:01:37):
No, if she had $10 billion, I'd definitely sue her
ass for that.

Speaker 8 (01:01:40):
I don't think she has .

Speaker 1 (01:01:40):
I wouldn't think she'd have, but I so I mean it's
like we want some of that oh.

Speaker 3 (01:01:49):
How do we get in on that?

Speaker 8 (01:01:52):
Poor you thrash.
And if there were a falloutlike that that was unexpected,
could it somehow benefit ourpodcast?
I mean, I didn't know, becauseit's pending and there's lawyers
and there's a lot of expenses.
I get that and I'm not askingpersonally.

Speaker 1 (01:02:08):
If I thought I could get $10 billion out of her, yeah
, Like hell we'd shoot our shot,but I don't think.

Speaker 8 (01:02:15):
Life would be a lot easier for all of us.
I just really would enjoy.

Speaker 1 (01:02:20):
Hey, we'll keep you updated on that.

Speaker 4 (01:02:23):
I look at it every morning and I'll keep you posted
.
Let's pivot, let's try to getin a couple questions.
We and I'll keep you posted.
Let's pivot, let's try to getin a couple questions.

Speaker 3 (01:02:29):
We had a lot of people.
Did some of our listeners sendin questions?

Speaker 1 (01:02:32):
Oh, yes, your listeners sent in a question.

Speaker 4 (01:02:35):
Now we don't know what it's going to be, so bear
with me it's grown quite a bitsince you were here last.

Speaker 1 (01:02:40):
Hey Lena, do we have any of that tequila up here?
I don't know how much longerthis podcast is going to go.
Your husband Keith, what's upguys?

Speaker 9 (01:02:50):
Smitty with Country Chord.
I got a question for Mr Aldean,so what I want to know is are
there any plans to take theolder records that are not
currently on vinyl and put themon vinyl?
And if that answer is no, howdo we turn it into a?
Yes, all right, guys Love thepod, appreciate it, turn it into
.

Speaker 4 (01:03:07):
Yes, all right, guys, love the pod, appreciate it.
Smitty, it's a country chord uh, give them a follow.
They're great uh on instagramthey actually are really really
good.
They're really good, no they.

Speaker 1 (01:03:14):
They've always been really cool to us country chord
over there.
Um, to answer the question, youknow the vinyl thing with our
albums, you know it's weird.
I feel like we we first startedmaking records, those albums
would come out and you know Ialmost feel like they were still
on cassette back in the day butthey weren't.
But it was like all cds andstuff back then and then it kind

(01:03:36):
of went to streaming and thenall of a sudden it was like you
know, I don't know a few albumsin or whatever.
All of a sudden they startedprinting vinyl albums again.
Like going back on that, youknow, so, like all of it's, like
half of my catalog kind of hasthe vinyl records now.
But to go back and do like youknow, like my kind of party we

(01:03:57):
never did a vinyl for that, youknow it would be cool, like it
would be really cool Cause I.
But I feel like when we weredoing it at the time that there
wasn't a market for that.
Nobody was really.
It was very niche, yeah, and Ifeel like when we were doing it.

Speaker 7 (01:04:08):
At the time there wasn't a market for that.

Speaker 1 (01:04:09):
Nobody was really buying.
No, it was very niche, yeah,and I feel like it's kind of
become a thing over the last Idon't know eight to ten years,
maybe I feel like I've got a biggreen tractor 45.

Speaker 4 (01:04:21):
45.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:04:23):
And that was the first time, because I remember
thinking man, I used to listento little 45s in my room all the
time.
What do?

Speaker 4 (01:04:29):
you got.

Speaker 1 (01:04:29):
Oh, there you go trash that old boots, new dirt
might have been the first vinylthat we did okay, I think it was
and um, and I always I wrotethat always wanted to.
Well, I was gonna say I alwayswanted to make the albums look
cool, but this one's like superbasic.
This one has not been openedthat one is like clear with some
brown on it.

Speaker 3 (01:04:51):
Try that in a small town sticker here.
I think vinyl is so cool.
It's like artwork now.

Speaker 1 (01:04:58):
Well, this is how I grew up listening to music too
my dad had a record collectionand I would go plug the
quarter-inch cable in with thebig-ass headphones and I would
sit there and play, and then youcould see the quarter inch
cable in with the head, big assheadphones and I would sit there
and, you know, play, and thenyou could see the little grooves
in the record where you couldskip to the next song and it was
like I don't want to hear thosetwo songs.
You know, you learn how to.
It was our version of a cdplayer.

(01:05:20):
We were growing up.

Speaker 6 (01:05:20):
I just love opening everything up and seeing you
know the writers and you playedon everything and a lot of
people don't you.

Speaker 1 (01:05:27):
That's the thing.
It's like we're such nerdsabout that stuff.
You know, we take an album likethis and we open it up and we
want to look at everything it'sawesome and see who wrote it,
and you know the thank you.
I mean, I spend time likethanking all the people for
stuff and who played oneverything, and nowadays it's
like people don't care aboutthat shit.

(01:05:47):
They're just like I want tohear that song and they don't
care who played on it or any ofthat.
That's kind of our thing, Ithink, and I think there's still
those people out there, but amass majority of people are like
Dude, I used to read thecredits on old rock records when
I was a kid.
I read everything, oh yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:06:07):
Everything, and I think people are really still
interested in that.
I don't know we just don't giveit to them.
I think they are.
I really do.
I'm serious.
Well, we talked about this withJohn Rich.

Speaker 1 (01:06:19):
Music is such a to me .
You know, I always say, like ifsomebody goes and spends $20
million making a movie, right,and then they're not just going
to go, hey, I spent $20 millionmaking this movie, I'm going to
put it out on Netflix soeverybody can watch it for free,
right, like at some pointyou've got to try and get what

(01:06:41):
you got in the movie out of it.
So you put it in theaters andpeople pay to buy a ticket to
come watch that, and then maybeyou put it on pay-per-view and
people buy.
You know, you try and get yoursomewhat of your money back.
And it's kind of the same thingwith record company and so you
know you make these records andthen it's just like music I

(01:07:01):
think has been, you know, overthe last probably 15 years, has
kind of been made to be likesuch a music should be free,
whether it's writers and artistsor like whatever, and it's like
dude, it takes a lot of moneyand a lot of stuff to like
create these records and we'rejust going hey, here, go listen
to this as much as you want fora penny well, I remember going

(01:07:24):
to the to buy a record cost,cost $18.

Speaker 6 (01:07:28):
And when you bought this feeling, when you bought it
, you own that now.

Speaker 1 (01:07:35):
And I would play that thing a million times.

Speaker 6 (01:07:38):
And it was yours, and I feel bad that people today
you're right, they don't.
It's so disposable now, it'sjust music.

Speaker 1 (01:07:45):
Well, it's so easy.
You get it on Spotify.
It's like, oh, I want to hearthe new Morgan Wallen song.
Morgan Wallen new song, boom,pull it up.
You're playing it, you don'tcare who wrote it or what the
story is behind it or who playedon it.

Speaker 3 (01:07:59):
who's playing the guitar?
Yeah, we were kids and wecouldn't wait to take this out
of the jacket.

Speaker 1 (01:08:04):
Yeah, brent Mason, put it it.

Speaker 3 (01:08:05):
yeah, put it on and listen to it and actually soak
it in.

Speaker 1 (01:08:09):
You'd soak it in and you could tell nowadays you
don't do that well and our thingwas like I remember for me like
pulling out stuff and you'dhave like brit mason playing
guitar or something, and thenyou'd have like you know,
somebody else playing on thisand you could tell the
difference and like that's howthat guy plays.
And that's how that guy plays,and you know, it's like you're
studying it all.
I think nowadays it's just likehey, throw that on, it's cool,

(01:08:32):
and then nobody really gives ashit who played on it or
whatever.

Speaker 8 (01:08:36):
It's cool because it's hot right now kind of thing
when I was a kid.
I'm a writer now, so now I payattention to it, but when I was
a kid I didn't look at thatstuff.
I didn't think about it.
If it was george straightsinging I thought I'd assume
george straight wrote it.
I didn't think anything aboutit you know, then you move to
natural and think, oh wow, youcan make a living doing that,
just didn't process it.

Speaker 1 (01:08:55):
I just don't properly process it you know, back in
the day, like I mean, jamesstroud was producing everything,
clint black, tracy, lawrence,clay walker, I mean all the
stuff that I was digging.
It's like every time I lookedat something it was like James
Stroud, byron, gallimore, theywere producing all that stuff.
Then you deep dive in and who'splaying on the records?
Shit, it was always the sameguys.

(01:09:17):
You're like these guys are theones creating this sound that I
think is so cool.
Those producers knew how to getthat and built that team around
them.
I think that's kind of a thingfor us growing up, with cds,
jackets and stuff.
It's like you're sitting therelistening to the record and
you're also reading like whowrote it?
And you'd see, like you know,ashley goerle wrote 10 of the

(01:09:41):
songs or whatever.
And you're like damn, thatguy's killing.
Like I always see that guy'sname or whatever and, um, I
don't know, I feel like a littlebit of that's lost now.

Speaker 3 (01:09:50):
For sure I remember this feeling like a book when I
would open it, especially thesedouble albums and stuff.
It was like a book and I wouldread it all I would.
I would come over here and lookat who the players are.

Speaker 1 (01:10:04):
I think you're just staring at my picture, yeah.

Speaker 8 (01:10:08):
Because you think I'm a stud A little uncomfortable,
I would look at this picture andI'd go.

Speaker 3 (01:10:11):
Why didn't he shave that part of the hair off his
chest right?

Speaker 1 (01:10:14):
there Probably so it wasn't in the picture.
Yeah, you got some creepers andI hate shaving.
That's why I never look cleanshaving.

Speaker 4 (01:10:26):
You guys want to do another question?

Speaker 8 (01:10:27):
Yes, I'd love to.

Speaker 3 (01:10:30):
He's going to love that answer.

Speaker 7 (01:10:33):
Hi, my name is Mark.
I have a question for JasonTully and Kurt how was Trump's
inauguration?
You guys looked and soundedgreat, but I want to hear your
side of the story.

Speaker 1 (01:10:47):
Yes, we did, mark, we did look and sound great I have
to agree your side of the story.

Speaker 4 (01:10:49):
Yes, we did, mark, we did look and sound great.

Speaker 1 (01:10:52):
I have to agree with you on that.
But I'll say this About playingthe inauguration man, I thought
it was cool.
Obviously, I don't think it's abig secret that I'm a Trump fan
.
I love what he does.
I think he's my kind ofpresident, you know what I mean
and so he's a friend and it wasan honor for us to get to play

(01:11:15):
that.
You know, it was something thatI actually made the call and
said hey, you know, this issomething that I want to be a
part of, I want us to be a partof, and if there's any way for
you guys to include us, let meknow.
And they called, wanted us toplay, and you know, I think, for
us I mean 20 years on the roadwe've done a lot of stuff.
We played Grammys, we playedall of it.

(01:11:36):
You know, every award show,we've played stadiums, we've
done duets, we've stadiums,we've done duets, we've done it
all.
One thing we had never done wasplay for a president, you know,
and so to do that, um, you know,I think for us as entertainers,
it's like it's another box tobe like man.
You know, this crazy life andcareer we've had, like we did

(01:11:58):
all these things.
And there's another box.
We checked that we I mean, thisis a bunch of reject kids that
played, you know, learned toplay instruments and were like
this was not supposed to happenfor us.
And here we are doing it andit's, it's cool, you know.
So to me it was a, it was anhonor and it was cold.

Speaker 3 (01:12:19):
It was better than Billy Ray Cyrus I will say this
man, it was it was electricaround that place when we played
that man.

Speaker 1 (01:12:27):
It was so cool.
Just the atmosphere that nightand being there and being part
of it was awesome.

Speaker 4 (01:12:32):
It was amazing.
I mean, it's the guy with thehighest power, it's the
president of the United States.
You could feel nothing but behonored.
It was awesome.
Yeah, it was absolutely awesome.

Speaker 6 (01:12:42):
That was really cool too.
I remember, like during when wewere playing cause we were, we
were only supposed to play, like30 minutes and we ended up
playing an hour Cause cause apresident was running behind,
yeah, and I remember and otherthings.
I remember looking around thestage again.
Oh, this is really, you know,like Alvin said, like another

(01:13:06):
thing that I mean when you thinkyou've done everything, you're
like we've never done thisbefore.

Speaker 4 (01:13:10):
Yeah, it was really fun.
Let's get one last one in,let's go.

Speaker 1 (01:13:14):
Get a juicy one, kurt man, hi guys.

Speaker 5 (01:13:16):
My name is Kimberly, from Palm Bay, Florida, and I am
wondering in the song A LittleMore Summertime, is Jason saying
a little BS?
Because every time my mom hearsthis song she's insisting
that's what she hears and wehave this argument all the time.
Please settle it for us.

Speaker 4 (01:13:35):
I'm confused.
Actually, a little BS, a littleBS.

Speaker 3 (01:13:37):
Does anybody that's Wendell's song.
Wendell Mobley's co-writer, andTony Martin wrote that song Did
you pull up the lyric.

Speaker 8 (01:13:43):
Wendell Mobley's co-writer, and Tony Martin wrote
that song Did you pull up thelyric.
Oh no.
You could Google the lyrics Alittle more song time.

Speaker 4 (01:13:48):
Well, I can tell you that he's not saying that.
No, no.

Speaker 1 (01:13:56):
I'm trying to think what line it is.

Speaker 5 (01:13:57):
I don't know I'm trying to sing it in my head.

Speaker 3 (01:14:00):
Because I sing it with Wendell when we do rounds I
don't know, Just a little bitlonger.

Speaker 1 (01:14:12):
I don't know, I can answer this quick the song does
not say bs, okay, that's yeah.
So if you, whenever in doubtjust google a little more
summertime lyric and and notthat they're always right
either- but it's funny howpeople.

Speaker 3 (01:14:30):
She had to be more specific.
Is it a verse thing or a chorusthing?

Speaker 1 (01:14:34):
Well, she wasn't more specific.

Speaker 8 (01:14:36):
But it's funny how people hear different things.
There's one song RememberWitchy Woman.
It's an old song.

Speaker 7 (01:14:45):
Ooh witchy woman.

Speaker 8 (01:14:46):
There was a kid in our neighborhood.
His name was richie womack andwe had we.
We convinced this kid for yearsthat they were singing richie
womack see how it was great.
And he believed it for years soamazing.

Speaker 1 (01:15:01):
So you know he did so .
Tombo, martin, tombo shout out.

Speaker 7 (01:15:05):
Bug.

Speaker 1 (01:15:05):
Commander.
So Tombo, take a little ride.
He always thought it said slideyour pretty little cell phone
over Cell phone, your prettylittle cell phone Slide your
pretty little cell phone overand Tombo's like slide your
pretty little cell phone over.

Speaker 4 (01:15:24):
So yeah, that actually would be a great bit.
We should have better listeners.

Speaker 1 (01:15:29):
And if you've ever met Tombo, you'll completely
understand that.
Your pretty little cell phonePretty little cell phone over.

Speaker 8 (01:15:38):
You could see how that would happen.

Speaker 1 (01:15:39):
You know it also depends on like drugs people
have done over the years anddifferent things you know.

Speaker 3 (01:15:49):
I looked up the lyrics a little more summertime.
What you got, you got a nextone.
I got something.
I don't know what they are.
I got to get the BS thing outof my head.
I should have previewed these.

Speaker 7 (01:15:57):
Hey guys, my name's Addison and I'm from Minnesota.
I was actually a stagehand whenyou guys were here two years
ago at Treasure Island Casino.
I was curious if you guys haveever had a song that you wish
that you had wrote, or ifJason's ever had a song that he
wished that he would have cut.
And Fly Over States is myfavorite country song of all

(01:16:19):
time, so thanks for that, Thrash.

Speaker 6 (01:16:21):
Ooh and he called you by.

Speaker 4 (01:16:22):
Thrash.

Speaker 1 (01:16:23):
Thrash, he's in the circle.
You probably get that questiona lot.

Speaker 4 (01:16:27):
Actually a song that you wish you would have cut
first of all.
Do you remember giving this guya note?

Speaker 1 (01:16:31):
probably not, no, yeah um, I mean, I'm not gonna
lie.
No, I mean, but listen honestly,like and I don't mean that to
be like no of course but it'slike you meet so many people and
they're you know, and it's likeI am horrible with names, I'm
great with faces.
So if I see somebody I'm likeI'll be like I met you at so and
so and so.
So I don't know your name orany of that stuff, but in those

(01:16:54):
kind of situations I mean, youknow, I don't know, we're
getting ready to go play a showand people are trying to talk to
you and I'm like man, I'm,you're in the zone a little bit,
so you just never know.
But, um, I would say you knowsongs that I wish I'd cut.
I mean, man, I hear songs allthe time that I'm like dude,
that's killer, you know, it'sreally good.

(01:17:14):
I mean I remember hearing like,uh, hillbilly deluxe brooks and
dunn I don't buy my, you knowkind of like swampy, cool ass
thing and we had that as ourintro music for a year or two on
the road.
You know, it's like you hearthings like that and you're like
god, man, that's cool, you know, but you just you never got a
chance at it.
Now there's been a couple thatyou know been pitched to me that

(01:17:36):
I turned down, that went on tobe hits, the one that I really
sticks out was uh, the a songcalled drunk on you that luke
had, girl, you make my speakersgo boom boom.
They pitched me that and Iremember being on a plane just.
But like we were trying tonarrow it down, we had a couple
more songs.
I'm like I don't know.
It just kind of didn't go whatwe were doing at the time.

(01:17:56):
Luke cuts.
It has big hit with it, youknow.
So I mean, there's always thosekind of things.

Speaker 4 (01:18:01):
Um, yeah, we talked about this too, like uh, jake
owen had a chance to cut bigtractor and it's just I've heard
you say this and I think it'strue they they usually land
where they're supposed to and Iand I do believe that man, I
think songs.

Speaker 1 (01:18:15):
I think as singers, as artists, if, if you really
are honest with yourself whenlistening to something you know
I can listen to a song, go,that's my, that's my thing,
that's my thing, that's what Ido, that's what I do, well, and
I'm going to kill that.
And then there's other thingswhere you're like that's a
little bit of a stretch and Idon't like what it says there,

(01:18:36):
but I don't like that melody,but it's kind of like whatever.
And so I think, as singers,it's like we know, like deep
down where it's like damn, it'sclose, but it's not quite that.
And so Jake Owen had Big GreenTractor and we kind of had the
backup hold on it and I thinkthey were kind of pressing him
like hey, aldean wants to cutthis, and like are you going to
cut it or not?
And I think he kind of pulledoff of it.

(01:18:57):
It's like I'm a Florida kid,like this ain't really my thing,
this ain't really my thing, andas soon as he did, I was all
over that thing.
And to this day it's been ourfour weeks at number one, it's
our longest number one and andit's and even that song is like
a little tongue and cheeky, likefor what we do now.
Like I don't know that, I wouldcut that song and I even fought
knocks on that song back in theday.

Speaker 4 (01:19:17):
Yeah, we talked.
Yeah, he talked about that.
I just wanted.

Speaker 1 (01:19:19):
You know, I just I was in a spot of like I want to
just cut, like I just knew likewe were going to get one crack
at this thing, man.
So like I wanted to go in andcut things that I thought were
cool, that I wanted to go outand sing and things that just
you know, and it wasn't you werestill cool after big green
tractor.

Speaker 3 (01:19:36):
It made you even cooler, I know, but it was
really hard to sing like youknow, some of those lyrics and
stuff, because it's just nottypically what we do, and
hicktown had a little bit ofthat too, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:19:46):
So, um, but yeah, big record man, that was a game
changer, for sure uh, let's,let's maybe dial it in or end
with this.

Speaker 4 (01:19:56):
What you watching these days, what you got on the
netflix queue I know, oh, wetalk more about this kind of
stuff.
I know I love it.
I mean, it's usually what ourconversation is anyway.
Oh my gosh, have you seen such?

Speaker 1 (01:20:07):
and such yet.
So here's where I'm at now inlife, just in general, right?
So my wife, watches.

Speaker 4 (01:20:12):
Watching what Brittany watches.

Speaker 1 (01:20:13):
Well, she watches.
You know, we have some thingsthat we like to watch together
and then there's certain thingsthat it's like she watches, and
I've kind of just been in theroom and now I've gotten sucked
into that shit.

Speaker 3 (01:20:26):
You don't do the chick flick thing right.

Speaker 1 (01:20:28):
No, but it's like shows, like reality shows.
I'm a sucker for like a realityshow when there's a bunch of
drama going on.
So, like like Jersey Shore, andwhen everything's cool and
they're having fun, I'm likewhatever.
But as soon as they startfighting and throwing like wine
bottles and shit, I'm likewhat's that all about?

(01:20:51):
And then I'm in and so shesuckers me in on this stuff,
Vanderpump rules and stuff likethat.
So I sit there and watch that,and then I have like my iPad
right here with the Braves gameon and so I kind of keep up with
that while I'm checking thescore.
And then when she goes to bed,she goes to bed kind of early
and then, you know, I sit inthere and watch like 1923 or

(01:21:13):
Landman or like those kind ofthings.

Speaker 4 (01:21:17):
I haven't seen the new season of 1923.
Is it good?

Speaker 1 (01:21:20):
It's good.
It's the last season.
Get ready, it's over after this.
Really.
Yeah is a good, that's good.
It's the last season.
Get ready, it's over after this, really.
Yeah, man, I was so pissed.
I love the first season, right.
First season great.
This season's great.
But then it's just like it endsand then you're going oh
awesome, find a new show yeah,so land man lost me.

Speaker 3 (01:21:37):
I was really.
Yeah, I just love billy billybob thornton.

Speaker 1 (01:21:40):
That's the only reason I was watching.
Yeah, because of him.

Speaker 3 (01:21:43):
I'm watching billy bob Thornton because I love him.

Speaker 1 (01:21:46):
He's awesome.

Speaker 3 (01:21:47):
But it started getting so weird between him and
his daughter and it got sofreaking, perverted and I'm like
I can't watch this.
No kid talks to their dad thatway and says those words it's
not going to happen.
Well, they're probably watchingHollywood, I know, but they
lost me.
I'm in the mob land now they'rebringing back Ted Lasso.

Speaker 6 (01:22:06):
I've watched like an episode.
I haven't gotten into thatReally liking mob land.

Speaker 3 (01:22:10):
Mob land is good, but I love Tom Hardy.

Speaker 1 (01:22:11):
You know what my favorite show is?
I might have said this lasttime.
My favorite show on TV is DarkSide of the Ring.
You know this show.
80s kid grew up a wrestling fan.
It's like the behind.
It's like the behind the musicof the wrestling world and it
comes on vice.
It's awesome.
It's like wrestlers that I grewand it's great.

Speaker 3 (01:22:34):
It's awesome that they what would you say if, if,
if somebody wanted to come toyou and go?

Speaker 1 (01:22:39):
we want to do a reality show at your house they
have already always happenedmultiple times are you serious
yeah that's why we don't have areality show.
That's amazing.
My life's good.
I'm not gonna let you guys f**kit up and come in and bring a
lot of drama like I don't, Idon't want that the fans want it
, the only way I would ever doit is if it was centered around

(01:23:01):
our family.
We had control of it to whereyou know.
You're not creating thesestorylines to stir up drama and
bullshit, like if you want tosee us in our element, do what
we're doing, maybe, but I'm notgoing to let you come in and
just like wreck my family tomake a tv show yeah it happens.
So that's kind of why it hasn'thappened, but they've
approached us multiple times, soyou could do naked and afraid I

(01:23:24):
don't understand why, you gottabe naked.
Why can't I just have a bathingsuit on and be afraid you know?

Speaker 6 (01:23:30):
I'd be so afraid true why can't I wear flip-flops?

Speaker 1 (01:23:33):
and a I don't know speedo and be afraid or what I
mean.
You wouldn't want to see thaton tv either, but I don't
understand why you gotta benaked.

Speaker 3 (01:23:43):
Just you know what are you he's hanging?
What are you into, kaylo?
What are you watching thesedays?
Uh?

Speaker 8 (01:23:48):
we're catching up on better call.

Speaker 4 (01:23:50):
We went back oh, that's a good one oh yeah, got
one wow you're way

Speaker 1 (01:23:54):
like nine more episodes old episodes of family
ties.
Like you're going way back, way, way back.

Speaker 8 (01:24:03):
Way back.
Nothing will ever be BreakingBad.
Well, Rachel hadn't seenBreaking Bad until we started
there.
Nothing ever.
The writing is brilliant.

Speaker 3 (01:24:10):
What was the?

Speaker 1 (01:24:11):
show we watched that we loved so much.
Kingdom no, the UFC thing.
Kingdom Kingdom.
Really good, yeah, really good.

Speaker 3 (01:24:23):
It's pretty good what did y'all's deal with wrestling
?

Speaker 1 (01:24:26):
We grew up in the 80s man it was wrestling was huge.

Speaker 3 (01:24:28):
I know I did too.
I did too.
It was huge.
You grew up in the 60s.

Speaker 1 (01:24:33):
It was really, it was huge.

Speaker 7 (01:24:35):
Really Seriously.

Speaker 3 (01:24:37):
I was born in the 60s , I I was born in the 70s Cut
cut cut.

Speaker 4 (01:24:44):
Jim thanks for being with us.
That was your last episode.
Whose idea was it?

Speaker 3 (01:24:48):
to have him on today.

Speaker 8 (01:24:50):
That's amazing.

Speaker 7 (01:24:51):
Oh my gosh.

Speaker 4 (01:24:53):
Probably, if anybody's got anything else, we
should probably wrap this thingup, let's wrap it up.

Speaker 1 (01:24:57):
Let's do it, let's wrap it up.
Hey, thanks for having me.
Congrats on 50 episodes, allright.

Speaker 4 (01:25:02):
We're a little past 50.
We've gone the one-year markWell one year.

Speaker 1 (01:25:07):
Yeah, hey, listen, I never thought you guys would
make it past two months, so thisis awesome.

Speaker 3 (01:25:12):
Can we have you on more and talk about sports more
For?

Speaker 1 (01:25:15):
sure, Please Dude if I'm in town.

Speaker 6 (01:25:19):
We need some ratings bumps.

Speaker 1 (01:25:24):
Yeah, I definitely think you guys need me for yeah,
he speaks the truth it dependson who you poll on instagram,
how you know it could go eitherway, but I'm down to come kick
it.
I love doing this with you guys.
We're so appreciative forcoming.

Speaker 4 (01:25:39):
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just like our talk in thewhiskey river.
Anyway, so we're just puttingit on film.
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Speaker 3 (01:25:52):
Ed's one of our super fans.
He's fantastic Cool guy.
He's awesome.
We'll probably have him on atsome point.
If he'll come here and do it,you should suss that guy out.

Speaker 1 (01:26:01):
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Speaker 4 (01:26:03):
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Speaker 5 (01:26:12):
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