Senator Marsha Blackburn steps into our world of irreverent music talk and delivers something unexpected – a candid glimpse into her political future and passionate defense of songwriters' rights that left us all captivated.
The conversation begins with her powerful statement on creators' constitutional rights. "Songwriters, our creators, our musicians have a constitutional right to benefit from their creations," she explains, grounding her advocacy in Article I, Section 8, Clause 8 of the Constitution. As musicians ourselves, we immediately recognize we're talking with someone who fundamentally understands our industry's challenges.
She breaks down her legislative initiatives with clarity rarely seen from politicians discussing creative industries. The No Fakes Act tackles AI's threat to artists' voices and likenesses, while her groundbreaking Songwriters Equity Act allows creators to pay capital gains rather than ordinary income tax when selling their catalogs. "A catalog is not an album. A catalog is your life work," she explains, capturing the essence of a songwriter's business reality in one perfect line.
When discussing her recent FCC letter addressing modern payola practices, we share our own experiences with radio stations demanding free performances for airplay. The conversation reveals her deep understanding of how industry exploitation evolves and her commitment to countering it with practical solutions.
Then comes the moment that caught us completely off guard – her forthright answer about running for Tennessee governor: "I'm giving a good, serious look at running for governor. And if I run, I will win." This unscripted revelation speaks volumes about both her confidence and comfort level with our podcast's freewheeling style.
The episode wraps with her vision for America's conservative future and Tennessee's potential leadership role. Whether you're a musician concerned about your rights, a policy wonk interested in creative economy issues, or just someone who enjoys genuine conversations with public figures, this episode offers surprising insights and unfiltered moments you won't hear in traditional political interviews.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
And I don't know if you know this, but we happen to
propel careers here.
We had Cash Patel on before hewas the FBI director and look at
that.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
There you go.
I'm just saying.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
We had Kristi Noem on .
We simply befriended GovernorKristi Noem.
Speaker 4 (00:17):
And now look at her.
I don't know what she knows.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Travis has not told her yet.
I don't think she knows.
Speaker 4 (00:25):
You know I just look at her and say, shake it off.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
I'm going to go there .
Senator, you're running forgovernor, oh, wow.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Wow, 2026 would be the year.
This is not live.
Speaker 7 (00:39):
It would be.
Speaker 6 (00:40):
And it's just between us, just between us.
Yeah, we won't tell anybody.
Speaker 7 (00:46):
The Try that in a Small Town podcast begins now.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
Try that in a Small Town we are.
This is You're listening to theTry that in a Small Town
podcast Coming to you from thePatriot Mobile Studios.
K-lo Trash, tk.
I'm Kurt or whatever you wantto call me, it doesn't matter,
it actually just doesn't matter.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Tonight, though, it was Cobb.
Nobody liked Cobb.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
I guess there's some off-putting references.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Yeah, apparently we saw that after we're still
bringing that to our attention.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Yeah, thanks, ed.
Uh, but you guys better getyour minds right, because we
gotta we gotta be thinking thehighest level tonight.
Still, how high, high.
Okay, you got to get yoursights set high.
We have a very special guest.
We had have Senator MarshaBlackburn coming on.
I have no idea how she agreedto this.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
I don't know why I don't either.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
But I'll say this and we'll talk about it.
She's been a huge proponent ofmusicians, songwriters, artists
in Tennessee.
She likes to take care of thepeople in Tennessee.
She knows that's a businessthat's unique to Nashville, so
it's going to be fun.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
And diminishing.
I mean, you know she, sinceI've been in town she has been
at every function, every awardshow, ever NSAI event with
Barton Herbison, I mean every,every she's.
She's present, you know, asmany times as possible.
And you know, not just, I meanshe's, she's there, you know,
and she really cares and she's,and she has also seen the
(02:27):
songwriter community, like us,seen it shrink, you know, over
the last 20 years.
You know it was, I think bartsaid, like 4 000 songwriters I
wonder why, years ago.
Yeah, and and that's that's.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
You know, not near that now and we'll ask her that,
like I mean yeah you know,there's a lot of things that I
think musicians and artists andpeople want to know, and we say
this a lot.
We have a lot of differentpeople on this podcast.
A lot of them happen to beartists or songwriters.
We'll have sports people on,we'll have whatever, but we
don't usually have politicians,but this one's.
(03:00):
Well they get intimidated.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
Yeah, well, they get intimidated and we get that I
understand.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
I think I'm going to ask her if she's going to run
for governor.
Do you think I should do that?
Please do it.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
I don't know if she'll tell you or not.
You should ask.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
You should also ask her about Taylor Swift you
should also ask her about.
Taylor Swift.
Oh the comments.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Okay, I will, I'm going to do it.
I'm doing it, I'll do it.
Everybody knows I'll do it.
Speaker 7 (03:27):
You're both the big friends of Taylor Swift.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
All right, let's not wait any longer, let's get right
to it.
Senator Marsha Blackburn,thanks for being here, come on.
Speaker 6 (03:38):
I mean, this is intimidating.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
It is.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
And we dressed up for you.
But an advocate for songwriterslike no other, though man, for
for years, I mean every time, Iknow, at the ascap awards, when,
uh, neil and I were there, youwere there every year and just
always been supporting us, andso we just want to say thanks,
we're thankful that you're herefor all the songwriters thank.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Thank you for everything you do.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
It is an honor and a privilege to do it and, as you
all have heard me say,songwriters, our creators, our
musicians have a constitutionalright to benefit from their
creations.
It is an Article I, section 8,clause 8, guarantee to those who
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innovate and who create.
So, yes, indeed, it's part ofthat constitutional duty to
stand up and protect the rightof creators to be paid for their
innovations.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
We like you Amen.
We should have had you on along tour.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
It's true when we say we couldn't have said that
better.
Speaker 4 (04:49):
Absolutely not you know, but you would say it in a
different way and you would putmusic behind it and take three
minutes to tell the story.
Right, that's right, that'sright.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Well, and that's what you know what makes uh
tennessee, and especiallynashville, so unique, is it?
I mean, it's a town of artists,it's a town of musicians and
it's a town of songwriters,which is the most unique in the
country or in the world, Ibelieve, and you're you're
heading up a few legislativeacts which are hoping to protect
(05:19):
especially the artists and thesongwriters, which I think is
awesome.
And there's a couple I did wantto get your uh definition or
more of the opinion on.
I know there's like the um,it's the fake.
What is it uh?
no fakes yes, which I don'tthink people realize this like I
could go home tonight and Icould make a recording and it
(05:39):
would be me singing which you'dnot want to hear.
But then I could say put thisin in the voice of Jason Aldean.
And it's all of a sudden youthink Jason Aldean is singing
this song.
Oh, it's scary, it's very scary.
But I know, that you're tryingto help and protect that right.
Speaker 4 (05:53):
Absolutely, and I think it is so important that we
see what AI is doing andrecognize that Now there are
some industries like logisticsand advanced manufacturing and
healthcare that are going to dovery well with AI.
It'll bring efficiencies.
The federal government needs touse AI and the problem that we
(06:18):
have for our creators is theycan take your likeness, they can
take your voice and supplantthat to someone else and create
an image or create a sound.
So no fakes will give artiststhe ability to have standing and
(06:40):
then to take these bad actorsto court and to remove that work
and to keep them frombenefiting.
And that is something that withthis technology, we don't have
anything on the books that givesthe songer, that gives the
musician, that gives thevocalist the right to have those
(07:03):
protections.
So this is a bill that would dothat.
It's bipartisan, by the way, andwe've been trying to get
together a roundtable.
Chris Coons, senator Coons outof Delaware, is the lead
Democrat on the bill and he andI have been trying to work
(07:24):
schedules and get a roundtabletogether, but of course, since
the first of the year, we havebeen in DC five days a week, so
we've not been able to do that,but I thought it would be great
for him and a couple other of mycolleagues who do not have the
opportunity to have songwritersor vocalists in their
(07:47):
communities to come to somewherelike Nashville where they could
sit down and hear from people,whether they're from music
publishing or a recording studioor a label or the entertainer,
and find out what thevulnerabilities are, how they've
been created that wouldadversely impact their line of
(08:09):
work and prohibit them frombenefiting from that line of
work.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
Yeah, and one of the biggest things you did and it
was a good while back was theSongwriters equity act.
But then it's also where, wherewe can we've talked about this
a little bit before wheresongwriters we have, you know,
years sometimes of a catalog andthings like that and we can
sell that because it's abusiness and you can sell that
group right percentage of thatand and only pay capital gains
(08:40):
taxes as opposed to ordinarytaxes, right.
Speaker 5 (08:43):
So which would kill us, you know?
Speaker 3 (08:45):
So, it just gives you a chance to stay in the
business longer.
Can you talk about that for asecond?
Speaker 4 (08:49):
Yeah, that was actually one of the first things
that I got passed in Congress,and it was a tax bill and I had
to take it through Ways andMeans Committee when I was in
the House at that point in timecommittee when I was in the
(09:10):
House at that point in time, andwhat I realized as I started
working with my colleagues thatwere there in DC, I realized
that they did not understandwhat a catalog was.
A catalog is not an album.
A catalog is your life work.
That is for you, a smallbusiness person, your business,
that is your stock and trade.
And so we were able to get thispassed.
(09:33):
And then, when you do sell acatalog and sell those rights,
you now pay cap gains on it asopposed to ordinary income tax,
which is a big difference andallows you, the creator of that
work, to keep more of that nestegg that you've built up in that
(09:55):
work.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
We love those lower tax, those lower capital gains
taxes.
We love it.
Speaker 6 (10:00):
It's so refreshing for someone in your position to
talk to you about this, becauseI feel like you really
understand it and I think mostpeople in your position maybe
don't and when you'resongwriting and you're trying to
come up with these ideas andeverything's a small victory in
this business and all of it isjust so you seem to have such a
(10:22):
grasp of how much that means tous financially and creatively.
So thank you for all that.
Speaker 7 (10:32):
Oh, I'm happy to do it, tell Spotify.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
Exactly right.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
You think you could get Elon to buy Spotify when you
get back to Washington?
Speaker 4 (10:40):
I think that's kind of out of my realm there a
little bit.
But here's the thing.
You know, at some point we'vegot to look at rates and
royalties and say why don't wefocus on end use?
Because radio pays for onething but not the other thing.
(11:00):
And of course we have the AMFMAct to straighten that out.
They'll pay the songwriter,they don't pay the performer.
Then you've got rates forstreaming.
You've got rates.
It's really a hodgepodge.
So at some point we need to sayis this for just one-time use
and listening?
(11:20):
Is this for replication?
Is this for commercial use?
And then make certain thatcreators are paid for what
they're creating.
People would not go intoWalmart and pick up a basket of
things and say, well, this isn'tmuch, I'm not going to pay for
it, but then they don't thinkabout it if they're ripping a
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song or somebody's not gettingpaid when it comes to your
entertainment.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
I always tell people, when you go into a restaurant
and imagine no music, go intojust about any venue or any
restaurant and turn the musicoff and see what it feels like
You'd hear a lot of peoplechewing and you would see how
important music is.
Speaker 4 (12:08):
Oh yeah, that's your ambiance.
Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
And you've always had an appreciation for it.
And Kurt and I were talkingearlier because you are a
musician you know, when you werea kid and played piano and
guitar Right, Ukulele gaveukulele lessons, that's right
played piano and guitar, RightUkulele gave ukulele lessons.
Speaker 5 (12:26):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
Wow, what kind of lessons did you do?
Well, what?
Speaker 4 (12:28):
I found interesting.
Well, he's known me a while,yeah, but is the fact that you
said that gray hair?
It's kind of peeking out there,it's telling us what.
Speaker 6 (12:39):
What are?
Speaker 7 (12:40):
you saying Wait.
Speaker 6 (12:41):
Oh, I, oh, I love that.
And the senator.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
I did mention to him last episode.
I said you're growing it out onthe sides.
I've got a haircut which I kindof love.
I've got a haircut.
Since then he's grown.
Before you say you know, Idon't want to interrupt, I'm
sorry, I'm sorry.
But the senator would alwayslook at the writers' names, the
sheet music and stuff like that.
That's right, I and stuff likethat.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
I found that fascinating because I never,
even as a songwriter, I neverdid that.
I didn't look at the writersand stuff, but you did.
Yes, so you've always had anappreciation for writers, which
I think is amazing.
Speaker 4 (13:09):
Yeah, who wrote the lyrics?
Yeah, you know how did thiscome to be and I think it's
fascinating to that church music, like a lot of people I know
you did so he's old.
It's amazing he is old, he'sreal old I'm older than
everybody at this tableconversation.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
No, I don't know.
I thought I was older than youno, you're not, oh no uh, let's
talk about also, as long aswe're on this, uh, music talk in
the business.
I know that you recently sent aletter to the FCC and this is
important too, because payola,people think that was a term,
that and something that onlyhappened in the 50s and then in
(13:54):
the 90s and 2000s, but it stillgoes on and it just happens
differently.
And maybe an artist goes andplays a radio station show for
free in order to get moreairplay, and I know that's
something you're trying toprotect the artists on.
Can you speak to that a little?
Speaker 4 (14:10):
bit?
I certainly will, and it's sointeresting how issues come back
in a different form.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
Right, because this has been around for a long time.
Speaker 4 (14:18):
Yes, that's right.
And I had some road musiciansbasically talk to me about this.
People I would run into everyonce in a while and a few
artists and they would say, hey,I would hear about this
practice that had come to bewith some of the large radio
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systems and basically if youwere doing a tour and they were
involved in the concert comingto town, then they would give
you more airplay for certaincuts.
If you would do a meet andgreet for their advertisers, a
(15:01):
private show for theiradvertisers, and this happens
all the time, all the time.
It happened to me a lot in the90s, a lot and uh, they were
saying people started using theterm this is just a new form of
payola.
So I started hearing more aboutit from a wider group of people
(15:21):
and I thought there issomething to this.
So so I sent a letter toBrendan Carr, who's the chairman
of the FCC, who oversees all ofthis, and I said I think this
is an issue that we need to putsome attention on and just see
what is happening.
I know the FCC has guidance onpayola practices and it seems
(15:46):
that now it is coming forward inanother form and this is what
it is.
And so he sent out a letter,basically a warning, to the
radio stations and then issuedguidance to be certain they
understand they.
If an artist is coming to townand they are doing a concert,
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that radio station cannot, theycannot, tie a free show, free
services of the artist and themusician, to airplay and uh,
there, it is a law and um how doyou police that?
I don't even know you know, Ithink that's one of those things
(16:32):
that will be up to the fcc forme.
It was just I've been madeaware of it.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
You wanted to bring light to it, as we typically do.
Speaker 4 (16:41):
I said here you might want to take a look at this and
investigate it.
You all tend to it, but here'swhat I'm hearing from some
people that are on the road.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
That even gets more interesting to me, like when
you're talking about benefits,Because radio stations will
always ask artists to come.
Hey, will you come?
play a few songs for thiscertain benefit, right?
So let's assume that Tully andI have a new duo and the only
reason we don't because we knewit'd be incredibly successful.
We wouldn't get my sake.
But if we did and we're tryingto get a our record played and
(17:16):
stuff like that, and somebodycalls us from our hometown or
whatever said, hey, would y'allcome to raise some money, you
know, for these kids, everythingworth I would just be thinking
internally, hey, if I do, theymight add a record.
So that gets a little tricky.
Speaker 6 (17:29):
Well, that's the whole thing Years ago, being on
a radio tour.
Every time you had a dinnerwith a radio station, the label
takes the radio people out andwe're all sitting there.
I remember the old days.
We're thinking, well, this isgoing well, We'll probably get
another 10.
Well, this is going well, we'reprobably getting another 10
spins in this station this week.
You know, that's how it was.
(17:49):
Yeah, it was, it was tight.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
Yeah, we did many shows like that.
Well, and For nobody evensitting there, for the radio
station, for their advertisers,for whatever.
And yeah, we'll add your recordand they add it.
And then they take it off theplaylist.
You know a week later they kepttheir word, but they didn't say
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how long that they would.
It's not right.
Speaker 4 (18:12):
It's just not right to do people that way well, and
that's what I would hear frompeople that were on the road and
, as I said, I'm not in thatbusiness.
We don't handle that typeinvestigation at our level.
That is for the FCC, but it isimportant when the people that I
represent, my constituents,when they're bringing an issue
(18:38):
to me, it is incumbent upon meto turn that over to the
appropriate agency.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
So we did.
And hopefully it will Hopefullythey're doing their job.
Speaker 4 (18:49):
Yeah, hopefully, hopefully, so.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
And all you can do is hear from guys like us, that's
it.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
That's it.
Well, I want to bring somethingto your attention and maybe you
can get it to the higher powers.
Can we somehow keep daylightsavings time?
Listen when yes, yes, at leastin Tennessee, you know some
states do it right like indianaI mean, this is the craziest
(19:16):
thing, because I have sponsoredthe bill for years.
Speaker 4 (19:22):
That would say, pick one I.
I don't care which one you pick, but I'm tired of changing the
clock.
And you look at what it costspeople and it costs companies to
go in and do all these resetsand it is just absolutely
ridiculous.
Do you want more daylight inthe morning or do you want it in
(19:44):
the afternoon?
Pick one.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
I would like daylight and I would like, I want to
pick the more sunshine in theafternoon.
Absolutely, I'm a musician.
I wake up late.
Look at everybody around theboard.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
Look at everybody's mood.
When the time changes,everybody's, their whole mood
changes, their whole characterchanges.
They're ready.
They'll work longer hours, noproblem, we got.
We got more daylight.
I like it dark.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
I prefer more dark.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
I get that.
Speaker 6 (20:08):
That's why the office has no windows, you guys know
this, I get that.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
Where do you stand, do you just?
Speaker 4 (20:13):
want to stay one way.
I would prefer daylight savingstime Me too, Year round.
But I just say stop the madnessof changing the clocks.
I mean, it makes no sense atall to me that we change the
clocks and then we change themback, and then we change them.
You know.
Speaker 6 (20:31):
What if we made it fun and just land somewhere in
the middle?
Do a half hour Like 45 minutes?
Speaker 4 (20:40):
I'd just throw the whole thing off.
Yeah, I would throw the wholething off.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
I mean, why not?
You just blew my mind.
Why does it have to?
Speaker 6 (20:47):
be.
Can't we just do a half hour,Do a half?
Speaker 2 (20:50):
hour 31 minutes.
I'm going to go there, senator,you're running for governor.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
Oh wow, wow, 2026 would be the this is not live.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
It would be, and it's just between us.
Speaker 6 (21:01):
And it's just between us.
Just between us.
Yeah, we won't tell anybody.
Speaker 4 (21:05):
I'm giving a good, serious look at running for
governor.
Speaker 7 (21:09):
Yes.
Speaker 4 (21:10):
And if I run, I will win.
Speaker 7 (21:13):
Oh yes.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
Okay.
Speaker 7 (21:14):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
Well, you heard it here first yes, 100%, you're
amazing.
Speaker 4 (21:20):
If I run, I will be the strongest conservative in
the race.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
I believe that too, and I don't know if you know
this, but we happen to propelcareers here.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
I don't know if you know this.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
We had Kash Patel on before.
He was the FBI director andlook at that, there you go.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
I'm just saying we had Kristi Noem on.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
We simply befriended Governor Kristi Noem.
Now look at her.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
So you made a good choice by stopping by your
future's bright, of course.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
So, is it true that the whole demeanor, like in
restaurants and hotels of DC,changes with each administration
?
It does.
I've always heard that Iwouldn't experience it myself.
Speaker 4 (22:07):
What are you talking about?
People are happy and they'rehopeful and it is like a new
attitude.
But here is the way I kind oflook at it.
I think that there areimportant moments in the life of
a family or the life of acountry, and 1776, important to
(22:33):
us.
You look at how we reallysolidified ourselves as one
nation in that period from 1861to 1865.
You look at what happened aroundWorld War II, when people said
and you look from 1938 to 1945,and people said we are Americans
(22:58):
, we are the USA, we can do this, we are the greatest generation
, the USA, we can do this, weare the greatest generation.
And I think 2024 was another ofthose pivotal starts.
The American people said we arenot giving in to DEI, we are
(23:19):
sick and tired of ESG, we knowthat men and women are different
.
We believe in a strong military, we love our country and we are
not going to put up with thisstuff.
And they showed up and theygave Donald Trump a mandate to
get our fiscal house in order toget this country back on track
(23:41):
and keep it on track.
Country back on track and keepit on track.
And I fully believe that theAmerican people are expecting
big things.
I told my colleagues the otherday we were talking about it and
we're finding about $4 billiona day in cuts that we can do
(24:01):
from Doge and I said, you know,let's not limit ourselves and
say, well, we're satisfied withone and a half trillion dollars
in cuts.
Let's take every cut that wecan get and let's get every
dollar of fraud and waste out ofthe federal government, because
(24:23):
it is the taxpayer's dollar,it's not government's money.
It is taxpayer money that isgoing to waste on these projects
.
It may be $3 trillion, it maybe $2 trillion, but let's cut it
all.
Then let's see what we've gotand then let's get government to
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the point that it is modernizedto deliver all of its services
and that we're going to be ableto meet the needs of people that
need services and defend ournation and get our taxes low and
secure our southern border andget inflation down and get busy
(25:09):
with this and send that powerand money back to the states for
health care and education andregulation and benefits.
And Tennessee should be we havethe potential to be.
We should be.
We have the potential to be.
We should be America'sconservative leader.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
Yes, we should.
Oh, I love it.
I think we can.
I absolutely love that.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
I've got to ask the senator what it was like the
night that the president gavethe address.
What was, what was that vibelike inside the room?
Speaker 7 (25:43):
I mean, for us, watching it on tv was like,
we're like what is going on?
Speaker 2 (25:48):
I can't imagine what it was like there you know what?
Speaker 4 (25:52):
um, I was so pleased that he had a good time giving
that address.
And I am so pleased that theresponse from the American
people was what it was.
I mean, everybody liked that.
I think it was like a 70%approval rating or something I
(26:15):
think that the Democratic Partyand their conduct.
they could not stand up for achild that had survived brain
cancer and a kid that was goingto West Point and parents that
had lost their children, a girlwho had been injured in an
accident, with a guy playing inwomen's sports.
(26:37):
They couldn't stand up and showgratitude for law enforcement
and I thought the conduct wasabsolutely abhorrent.
If you're not going to applaudand if you don't like President
Trump, don't take it out onpeople that have overcome
adversity.
(26:58):
Cheer for them.
Cheer for them.
Cheer for them.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
Cheer for them.
Speaker 4 (27:02):
And let the American people see that you are cheering
for people that have overcomeobstacles.
Be on their team.
But they could not bringthemselves to do that.
But here's what I do think theDemocrats have done they have
convinced themselves that theywere right on November 5th and
(27:25):
that everybody else was wrongand they have refused to listen
to the American people.
And you know we talk a lotabout issues that are 80-20
issues.
The Democrats are with the 20.
It's unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
And they're stuck there, they, they left all of
the 80.
Speaker 4 (27:46):
And it's like they're completely out of step with the
American people and where theyare.
I just think they are so off onthe wrong track, the wrong
(28:10):
track and um their conduct, II'm.
I am hopeful that members ofthe democratic party will call
their elected representativesout about that I asked somebody
about that the other day.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
I was like is there anybody in the?
In the party in the democraticparty that has stepped up and go
hey y'all, this is not workingwell, the.
Moment has anybody done that?
Speaker 6 (28:24):
the moment when that little boy, the moment that
little boy got the hug secretservice agent and had his back
like tears yeah, just streamingit was like it was such an
incredible moment and, to me,like to see no one on the
Democratic side stand up reallyjust ripped the bandaid off
(28:46):
anyone who was wondering howthey really truly were, because
if you don't feel that, I know,yeah, I mean you can't, and I
was surprised that no one reallystood up at all and broke order
with I don't know how y'allheld your tongues over here on
the right side, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (29:01):
Everybody wasn't I can't know how y'all held your
tongues over here on the rightside.
I don't know how everybodywasn't.
I can't believe it didn't comeon the hamster for a second.
When I was working my waythrough college selling books
door to door for theSouthwestern Company, I learned
a really important lesson, andit is don't waste your time
worrying about things you cannotcontrol.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
I cannot control what the Democrats, I'm learning
from you, neal.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
She's looking right at you, I know.
I'm like see Neal we were right.
I have to commend her on thewhole Taylor Swift comment and
stuff.
And you held your tongue onthat one and I would have come
unhinged.
Speaker 5 (29:42):
And I'm learning from you.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
I hope you're governor and you're a good
influence on me.
Let me tell you, Because ifTaylor Swift were to talk to me
like she talked to you, I wouldhave come unhinged and you.
Speaker 4 (29:55):
Taylor Swift is a talented young woman and I am so
pleased that Nashville is thecenter of her creative universe.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
Yes.
Speaker 4 (30:05):
We have a difference of opinion, obviously.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
You're so nice.
You're so nice, You'redefinitely going to win.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
Governor.
There are no two ways about it.
I think she was given badinformation.
Speaker 4 (30:19):
Who has done more to fight human trafficking and sex
trafficking?
Me?
Who has done more to protectkids in the virtual space, kids
online safety act, report, act,all these pieces that I've got?
Who's done more to protectsongwriters, songwriters, equity
, music modernization we've gotno fakes.
(30:40):
We've got the copied act, uh,the american music tourism act,
all these different bills.
So does she know that?
Speaker 3 (30:50):
I don't know, I don't what travis has not told her.
I don't think she knows.
You know, I just look at herand say shake it off.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
Where's?
Speaker 7 (31:02):
the drum set.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
That's amazing.
Hey, real quick, let's talkabout the first 100 days.
Actually, what are we twomonths in Trump's first 100 days
?
Speaker 4 (31:15):
He can't do math.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
Yeah right, the border is basically closed.
Yes, amazing Inflation down.
Yes, ukraine and russia peacetalks.
Rosie o'donnell has left thecountry.
It's an amazing first uh,couple months.
How do you feel about the first100 days?
Speaker 4 (31:38):
I am so excited about where we are after this first
50 days.
I think it is that we'vecompleted.
We have gotten PresidentTrump's entire cabinet confirmed
.
So, that is phenomenal Recordtime and we're working on
deputies and assistants and allof those other components at
(32:02):
this point in time and he is soaggressive.
I just am so grateful that he'sgot so much energy that he is
just going to it and it's everyday, it's so.
Speaker 6 (32:15):
It's so much.
Actually, someone's actuallydoing something they voted in
and now people aren't used to itlike, oh they're, they're doing
what they said they do.
You're right, that's right.
Speaker 4 (32:24):
This can happen he made promises, he is keeping
promises and he is doing a greatjob.
Jd vance is going to go down inhistory as one of the best vps
ever and they are determined toshrink the size of government in
washington dc.
And they are determined toshrink the size of government in
Washington DC and they will andthey will send that power back
(32:47):
to the states and the states aregoing to have to do good things
with it.
But I think it is phenomenalthat when you look at the border
, when you look at crime incities, when you look at respect
for law enforcement, when youtalk about inflation coming down
, when you look at gettingpeople to the negotiating table
(33:11):
using tariffs because his goalis to get reciprocal tariffs or
no tariffs so that we can getthe cost down, so that company
countries are not padding theireconomies because they're
tariffing us yeah, people don'trealize that they're tariffing
(33:31):
us huge percentages yes, that iswhat you call trade deficits
rightand so we are continuing to push
on this to get these thingsdone soon.
We know we've got a two-yearwindow and we're going to have
to work every single day to getthese things done, but with
(33:56):
President Donald Trump back inthe White House, our allies know
they're an ally, our enemiesknow they're an ally, our
enemies know they're an enemy.
Countries know that they needto come to the White House and
they need to negotiate with him.
And they are coming and theyare showing up.
And I'm on Senate FinanceCommittee and I can tell you
(34:17):
we've had the Canadian Agminister and oil minister and
finance minister and commerceminister all of them coming to
the office.
We've had all these countrieswith their different ministers
of finance and economics cominginto the office.
They want to do business withthe United States of America.
That is a good thing and wewant that to be a level playing
(34:42):
field that is going to help usto grow jobs and grow salaries
and build our economy, andthat's a good thing.
And that's a big part of thefocus that we have is that
prosperity and getting us backon the right track.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
Your timing as governor is going to be perfect
it is I can't wait.
Speaker 4 (35:09):
You're Johnny.
One Note today Come on.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
Do you think we'll get like the Doge dividends?
Do you think that will actuallyhappen?
Or will the dividends just goback into the American pot just
to make everything stronger?
What I want is.
Speaker 4 (35:23):
There's a process we do that is called rescissions,
and this is when we take savingslike that and we cut it out of
the federal budget and theOffice of OMB, office of
Management and Budget, has toask us to make those rescissions
and we can pass that throughboth chambers of Congress.
(35:46):
Then those programs and thatfunding goes bye-bye.
It is cut out of the budget.
I we need to doge everythingout and then we need to put us
(36:08):
on Ozempic for life.
Federal government.
And just you know take thoseGLP-1s every day you know, and
just keep this thing trimmeddown and skinnied up, and that's
what the American people wantto see.
It's certainly what Tennesseanswant to see.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
Awesome, absolutely.
Senator.
We know your time is precious.
We can't thank you enough forbeing here with us, and when you
came on, I was going to ask ifyou've ever been with four more
clueless or unqualified people,but they make you sit with
democrats all the time we'revery appreciative.
Speaker 3 (36:48):
What do you got?
Well, I was going to see if youwere going to ask her what we
ask most of our guests each time.
They come go real quick.
We'll end with this uh, whatdid you think the first time you
heard jason aldean sing thesong?
Speaker 4 (36:57):
try that in small town I thought, yeah, you got it
, that's great.
What a great song.
Speaker 7 (37:04):
By the way, thank you for coming to the show.
Speaker 4 (37:06):
I love it Growing up in a small town, I could totally
relate to that Love the song.
Speaker 2 (37:11):
We read your comment and we appreciate you having our
back.
Speaker 4 (37:14):
You got it 100%.
Speaker 1 (37:16):
Like we said, you've got the backs of all the
musicians, artists, songwritershere in Tennessee.
Speaker 4 (37:22):
We all the musicians, artists, songwriters here in
Tennessee, we're very thankfulfor you.
You got it and I appreciate youall.
Thank you for having me on.
Speaker 3 (37:26):
Thank you, Senator.
Thank you very much, Senator.
Speaker 7 (37:28):
Yeah.
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We're back and Kayla just saidwhat are we doing now?
I need to know, I need to know,I know, I need to know, I know.
Well, what we're saying is wewere just talking as the senator
left sounds like she might runfor governor.
Speaker 2 (39:09):
Sounds like she's confident.
I know I wasn't expecting that.
Speaker 1 (39:13):
That's a baller, answer it wasn't that?
Speaker 2 (39:16):
like I don't know, I'm thinking about it.
I'm kind of weighing my odds.
I'm thinking, no, she went tostraight, I'm going to win.
Speaker 1 (39:21):
You figure the politician answer is that Then
she's like no yeah, I'll win.
Speaker 2 (39:27):
That was not a politically correct answer she
gave us at all.
Speaker 6 (39:30):
I think she's got a good feel for the spirit of the
country right now and the stateright now.
What a great lady Trump lovesher.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
She can't lose Smart, she's a winner, she's a winner,
she's a winner kind of like usyeah, that's right yeah.
Speaker 6 (39:44):
I'm thinking about running, I'm nursing.
Speaker 1 (39:46):
I wish you lived after that, because you, you
have the last name.
How?
Speaker 6 (39:50):
hard.
Can it be?
Yes, I, you know Kennedy,another one to cross the party
line.
Perhaps maybe I don't know.
I feel like my time's now.
Speaker 3 (40:01):
Vote Kennedy, maybe maybe, maybe, I don't know.
I feel like my time's now.
Vote Kennedy, maybe, maybe VoteKennedy.
And speaking of winners, Ithought you were going to talk
about the merch a little bit.
Oh, the merch I'm going to talk.
Yeah absolutely.
Speaker 2 (40:10):
This is my new turkey hunting hat.
I have on, I like that Turkeyseason's coming up.
Speaker 5 (40:13):
It's right around the corner.
Speaker 2 (40:15):
And who wouldn't want one of these camo Camo, try
that in a small town podcastHats.
Speaker 1 (40:20):
And then Nice, kalo's got a black one.
Is this Kalo's hat?
Speaker 3 (40:23):
Yeah, I brought that just in case.
Speaker 2 (40:25):
Where can you find these hats?
By the way, try that in asmalltowncom Boom.
Go to the store.
What these are available, go tothe store.
These are available Right nowyou know how many turkeys I oh
my God, when is turkey season?
Speaker 1 (40:40):
I have no idea.
Middle April, I think it'sApril 13th, right after duck
season April 12th in Tennesseeand I'm pissed about that, we're
all pissed.
Speaker 2 (40:47):
All the turkey hunters in Tennessee are pissed
about that.
Why?
Because they took two weeksaway from us.
It used to open like at thebeginning of April, end of March
.
The lack of turkey.
No, that's their excuse, Idon't believe it.
Speaker 1 (41:00):
That's their excuse.
Oh, did they actually use thatas an excuse?
Speaker 2 (41:03):
is that?
I don't know, really know whatthe real excuse, their real
excuse well, did the bird flu gofrom the chickens to the
turkeys?
Speaker 3 (41:10):
no, it did not.
Speaker 1 (41:11):
I wish we would have had this conversation with this
nothing to do with it.
Speaker 2 (41:16):
It's, it's.
I don't know why.
It's.
Probably there's probably aliberal in charge of the two
twra.
That's my guess.
It's never even been hunting inhis life, probably.
That's probably what the reasonis.
That's usually what the problemis no, it's not a her, I don't
know.
Anyway, we want our full turkeyseason back.
(41:37):
If anybody's listening from theTWRA, I want it back.
Speaker 6 (41:41):
I want my two weeks back Now.
We need to have enough turkeysfor Thanksgiving.
I don't want to risk that.
That's my favorite.
Speaker 2 (41:47):
Those are domesticated turkeys, tully.
Oh, I knew that.
Those are farm-raised turkeys,not the ones I eat.
Speaker 3 (41:56):
We're not talking about the ones that you actually
kill and dress yourself.
We want to go to Publix and getone.
Speaker 2 (42:04):
Our listeners need to know that I need to take these
three guys turkey hunting.
I've been turkey hunting One ofthe worst experiences.
Speaker 1 (42:09):
I've had.
Really, you need to go with oldNeil.
I don't even know nothing aboutit.
Speaker 6 (42:13):
I was in Texas with Tyler Farr.
It was 155 degrees?
Speaker 2 (42:18):
Oh, is that when the cartel came up on your blind?
Speaker 6 (42:19):
I was sitting there in a blind with Heller Farr and
he's like man, I'm the bestturkey caller in the west side
of Mississippi.
I'm like, okay, this will becool.
And he starts doing this crazysound and no turkeys come Two
hours, no turkeys come.
We get back to the lodge.
Everybody's got turkeys Six,seven turkeys laid out just, and
(42:42):
not us, nothing.
Speaker 2 (42:43):
So anyway, I don't know you need to go with old
trash what time do you have towake up to go turkey?
You got to get up well, beforethe sun comes out.
Well, we went out.
The heat of the afternoon.
Speaker 6 (42:53):
Maybe that was a problem with a bottle of whiskey
, so maybe that's you can goanytime, really.
Speaker 2 (42:59):
oh yeah, certain states cut it off at like one
o'clock, but here here inTennessee you can hunt all day.
I've killed more turkeys in theafternoon than I have in the
morning.
Yeah, because I can call my assoff.
Speaker 1 (43:11):
Give it to us, or do you have?
Speaker 2 (43:12):
a little thing.
I don't have my diaphragm withme.
Now we're talking aboutpreventing pregnancy, I have to
put my diaphragm in my mouth.
Speaker 3 (43:22):
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
Don't do that.
That sounds disgusting.
No, it's amazing sounding.
Speaker 2 (43:27):
No it's a wonderful sound.
Speaker 3 (43:28):
Oh gosh, it works.
I hope my mother's notlistening.
Speaker 2 (43:30):
Yeah, let's pivot.
He calls all the ladies in.
Speaker 1 (43:33):
TK, you got this book in front of you.
I think it's important Actually.
Speaker 6 (43:36):
Jason Redman, a really good friend of ours.
We had him on early on in thepodcast Navy SEAL Navy SEAL
American hero.
His book Trident is anincredible story about what he
went through.
Great guy.
He came out to a show after thepodcast brought his wife out.
Him and his wife wrote thisbook together Mission Invincible
(43:59):
Marriage a battle-tested guideto an enduring relationship.
It's pretty amazing.
Him and his wife are inspiring.
They wrote this book to justlend some knowledge and advice
to couples and I, I you know hesent that to you specifically.
Well, to us to the podcast.
Speaker 3 (44:16):
Yeah, it would take a much larger book yeah, when you
get through with it in four orfive months pass it around to us
.
Speaker 2 (44:24):
Does Jason turkey hunt Redmond?
Yeah, because turkey hunters Imean marriages are kind of on
the rocks for turkey hunters.
I know they're gone all thetime.
Speaker 6 (44:34):
Well whatever he's doing must be working, because
this book is and, honestly, whatthey've gone through is a
couple Right.
What he's gone through and howyou get through that.
He's just one of my favoritepeople.
He's an incredible uh person.
His wife's amazing.
So, um, gary sinistra, theforward, um, so nice yeah, check
it out, check it out.
I definitely want to check itout, you know um proud of him
(44:57):
and and he's just, he's allabout helping any way he can.
Speaker 1 (45:03):
Yeah, he's a badass.
Yeah, we need more people.
Speaker 6 (45:06):
Jason, Erica, thank you for sending this.
We will pass it around andhopefully our wives will
appreciate what we've done.
Speaker 1 (45:15):
I hope so too.
I think we're getting there.
Yeah, inch by inch.
Hey, have you guys?
Yeah, inch by inch.
Speaker 2 (45:23):
Hey have you guys.
Nice choice of words there.
Kurt, nice segue from thediaphragm Really yeah inch by
inch.
Speaker 3 (45:29):
What do you mean by that?
Speaker 1 (45:34):
I'm sorry, Mom, I was going to ask and now I'm
off-put Topical conversation.
Have you guys been hearing theswatting going on?
Speaker 2 (45:44):
You haven't heard of swatting.
No, I've heard of squatting,hearing the swatting going on
you haven't heard swatting.
Speaker 1 (45:47):
No, it's like, but not swatting.
So apparently, like you get a,there's a call to the swap team
that arrives at the house andit's basically like the new
prank call and oh yeah it's likea deal and they're targeting
conservatives like this is likehappening all over, but since
you guys don't know anythingabout it, I guess we want to
have this conversation.
Speaker 6 (46:05):
No, I want to know more about it.
I've been off the grid for agood week and a half.
God good for you.
So I didn't look at any.
Maybe I missed it in the.
Speaker 1 (46:14):
No, it's just been happening a lot lately and it's
I don't know, it's justconcerning, because it's
basically targeting, uh,conservative voices, cough,
cough, especially you, neil,bring it.
Uh.
Well, yeah, we'll save it for adifferent episode, but, uh,
maybe swatting swatting.
Speaker 2 (46:33):
Yeah, I hadn't heard that one yeah, yep, check it out
check it out.
So if I use that, if a like aswat team shows up in the front
of them, yeah, there's a.
Speaker 1 (46:39):
It's basically like a high level prank call hey, wow,
somebody murdered somebody overat 1805 johnson street.
Yeah, they show up to yourhouse and it's a serious
situation they come busting inand stuff.
Speaker 3 (46:52):
Yeah, yeah, oh, that's nice when you said
swatting, at first I thought youwere talking, because we just
talked about, like jasonredmond's book, invincible
marriage.
I thought you were talkingabout us reaching for our wives
in a lovemaking gesture and thenswatting.
That was where my head was.
I was so far away from that, ohmy God.
Speaker 1 (47:14):
The segue wasn't that great.
Speaker 3 (47:16):
I was so far away.
You're on fire tonight.
Speaker 6 (47:17):
I'm so far away.
You are, you're on fire.
Speaker 1 (47:20):
Oh my gosh.
I don't even know where to goafter that.
Speaker 3 (47:23):
Oh well, we could go to Tully.
You had a point.
I think it was about Neil'sdaughter's wife, Neil's
daughter's wife's uncle.
Speaker 5 (47:33):
Yeah, no, Allie Neil's daughter is getting
married soon, right?
Speaker 3 (47:38):
Yes, and so we talked about the menu and things like
that.
And we always have thrash talk,and so something came up, or
you questioned, I questionedsomething, you questioned the
menu.
Speaker 6 (47:47):
I questioned them.
Well, Ali was talking to me andCaleb before the podcast I
haven't seen the menu.
You haven't.
No, you're about to.
Speaker 1 (47:54):
But you're paying for the menu, yep.
Speaker 7 (47:57):
So, Ali said she just got the menu back and there's a
braised short rib, which soundsright.
Speaker 3 (48:06):
It sounds in line.
Speaker 6 (48:07):
There's a chicken glazed with a very fancy sauce.
Speaker 2 (48:11):
Wait a minute, that's okay.
How do you guys know thisbefore I do?
Speaker 3 (48:15):
Well, it's because we care about people and we were
just asking Allie about her life.
Speaker 2 (48:20):
She had a menu in her hand, though she showed you.
Speaker 6 (48:23):
No, she knows the menu.
It's done though.
Speaker 2 (48:25):
And she knows the dollar amount.
We didn't talk about that.
Speaker 3 (48:30):
But go ahead and get to the last.
Speaker 6 (48:31):
The most interesting part is when she said the vegan
option.
It's a giant piece ofcauliflower, but then I don't
know what's in it, but I wassurprised that there is a vegan
option Kayla goes, that's a veryliberal menu that's for a man's
man to be supplying all thefood.
Speaker 3 (48:52):
We thought it was odd that you would have a vegan
option.
Speaker 2 (48:54):
There's no vegans coming to her wedding.
Speaker 3 (48:57):
That you said hey guys, shouldn't we get something
for the vegans?
What vegans?
There's a vegan coming, Justvegans.
What vegans?
There's a vegan coming.
Speaker 7 (49:04):
Just telling you what vegans, and it is costly there
must be a vegan coming it's moreexpensive than the short ribs.
Speaker 2 (49:08):
Absolutely Well, that's always going to be that
way.
I know Organic, all the veganmenu.
It's always going to be moreexpensive.
Speaker 3 (49:16):
That's the way the limbs work.
Tully Telly wants to know whyyou approved it.
Speaker 6 (49:20):
Well we wanted to know.
I haven't approved it?
Speaker 7 (49:22):
I haven't seen it.
Speaker 1 (49:22):
We wanted to know, not just me, right, caleb, yeah,
we wanted to know but if you'revegan, why not just eat the
salad and the vegetables?
Do you have to have the maincourse, exactly?
Speaker 6 (49:32):
You know why?
Why, I'll tell you why.
Speaker 3 (49:34):
Okay, I'm not catering to veg.
Here's your question.
Speaker 6 (49:39):
The reason is because if you don't have a vegan dish,
they don't get to say I'm vegan, because that's their favorite
thing to do is to say I'm vegan.
Speaker 1 (49:48):
It's true.
Speaker 6 (49:49):
They can't just pick around the stuff and they have
to say I'm vegan, no, I'm vegan,I'm vegan.
They love it, that's theirgo-to.
Speaker 3 (49:56):
Some people do have food allergies.
Well, I have food allergies,but I don't know.
But it could be.
Just say that.
But some people would have toeat vegan because of legit
allergies I agree.
Speaker 1 (50:07):
Yeah, is there a dairy free option on this menu
that I don't know?
Speaker 2 (50:11):
eat some freaking meat man, geez man up, eat some
meat man up girl oh, I love youguys now we'll say here's what
I'll say um the.
Speaker 6 (50:24):
I have had an impossible burger yeah, actually
you introduced me to animpossible burger nice what did
you say?
Speaker 3 (50:32):
kayla, joe nichols restaurant, the impossible, very
funny.
Speaker 1 (50:35):
And you didn't get any royalty song in there.
Speaker 6 (50:38):
He plugged it that way it was I'm trying it's
interesting.
Speaker 1 (50:41):
I mean it's got the texture yeah, you took me to a
place in new york city and wehad one and it was actually
pretty good, yeah, but uh, yeah,it never can replace.
Speaker 6 (50:53):
Well, no, you know, and I'd be surprised that neil
will have a vegan option, thathis daughters were my favorite
thing.
Speaker 2 (51:00):
Yeah, it's not the thing that you're wrong with me.
Speaker 6 (51:02):
I haven't seen it yet , you're right well, you're
right, it's definitely not up toyou.
Speaker 2 (51:05):
No, it's not I offered him 50 grand to go.
Just go get married and go tothe courthouse, just go on
that's so smart.
Speaker 1 (51:12):
What a great idea.
That's so smart dude wanted her.
Speaker 2 (51:15):
Her fiance roger wanted to do it.
He's like they all.
You know, the dudes always wantthe money Right.
Speaker 3 (51:21):
Take the money You'll be, married either way Well
thankfully it sounds like he'sloaded why not start a nest egg.
Speaker 2 (51:26):
You know I offered the cash.
I did it for my first daughterand I did it for this one, and
they want the show.
Speaker 7 (51:32):
They don't want the cash, they want the show.
They have the nest egg.
It's you.
Speaker 2 (51:37):
No, no, no, Once they get married it's over Are eggs
vegan.
Speaker 6 (51:41):
There are no more eggs, no eggs are not vegan
Because you said nest egg.
Can anyone buy eggs anymore?
Eggs are down.
Speaker 3 (51:49):
They're coming down.
Speaker 6 (51:50):
Yeah, oh, the price are coming down.
Yeah, it's going to.
Speaker 2 (51:55):
We talked about it a little bit on another podcast.
I remember they were like Idon't know it was it equaled
just a little under buck an egg.
I'm like, go buy some chickensif you don't want to buy eggs go
buy some chickens.
Speaker 6 (52:05):
It's a lot cheaper you got to build a coop a lot of
trouble.
Speaker 2 (52:09):
Yeah, yeah, I forget.
You don't work with your hands.
You don't even carry your base.
Speaker 1 (52:15):
You couldn't build a guys we don't know what to do.
We haven't played a show in Idon't know how long been a
minute it's been a little bit.
Aldine texted what was theother day or was it you that
texted us and be like oh my god,can we go, please play a show?
Speaker 6 (52:30):
just wandering around yeah, have no purpose, kind of
sad you too.
Speaker 2 (52:36):
Oh no, we're sad.
I know we all aren't touring,it's the listeners.
Man.
Hey, this is a good place tounload, though Right here on the
Try that in a Small Townpodcast, it's a good place for
you two to unload.
You still look stage ready.
What does that mean?
Speaker 1 (52:52):
unload Just your frustrations, your boredom, all
of it hey, uh, I want to uh goto this real quick because I
think this is going to be cool.
We've introduced this thing.
It's through speak pipe and,instead of people just uh
submitting their questions viainstagram or x or whatever it
(53:13):
allows them, it allows us tohear their voice asking the
question, which is kind of cool.
So we've got a few.
You guys want to see what wegot oh, hey, yeah hey, jim, what
do I do?
just play this thing in themicrophone and see if it works.
All right, let's, let's findout what, uh, this one's from.
It looks like I told them toleave their name and where
they're from.
I don't know.
If they did, we'll see whathappens hi.
Speaker 2 (53:37):
Um, my name is nick bruno and I was wondering what
is your favorite memory?
Speaker 5 (53:42):
from a recording session, if you have one.
Thank you for taking the timeto listen to my question.
Speaker 1 (53:49):
Well, nick seems very polite and I think we should
answer his question.
Tully, do you have a recordingsession moment that stands out
to you that you can tell?
That I can tell.
I do have a favorite one, but Iprobably shouldn't, yeah,
probably shouldn't, shouldn'ttell it um, what about the first
time that, uh, we cut one ofthe songs that we wrote?
Speaker 6 (54:13):
yeah for jason, I love.
I actually would go back alittle further and I was gonna
say try that in small time.
It was one of those moments butI often think about, like the
first time that we well, that wewent in to make the first
record, just because we were allsure that that would be the
(54:35):
last time that we went in, youknow.
So I remember like specificallystarting that whole record with
Amarillo Sky and we played itdown one time and walked back in
the control room and it soundedso good and I was like, wow,
this might actually work.
(54:55):
This, this sounds pretty cool.
You know what I mean.
I just remember walking inthere and then walking back into
the studio to record it again.
Speaker 1 (55:01):
I was terrified, you know, through that first record.
Well cause, we didn't know whatI mean.
I just remember walking inthere and then walking back into
the studio to record it again.
I was terrified through thatfirst record.
Speaker 6 (55:05):
Well, because we didn't know what we were doing.
If you listen to that firstrecord, which now and the way we
hear things now you can tell,with half of that record we
don't even know how to end thesongs We'll just play out, we'll
just do a vamp out of likenoodling around and it just
fades away.
You know, but it was.
It was cool though, because inthat studio we're still record
(55:29):
there today same studio,treasure isle, but that's where
we used to do all the old demosbefore we did the album too,
like back in the old days justlearning how to be a band right.
Speaker 2 (55:39):
That's an amazing thing right there, though, that
you guys are still cuttingaldine's records at the same
studio same studio, sameengineer, same players that's
amazing.
Speaker 6 (55:50):
You know how rare that is yeah, no, and it's like
it's fun to talk about itbecause we get, every time we
show up there we talk about this, but usually it's because, like
, the place is actually likefalling down.
Yeah, but we're.
But you're right, neil, it'slike it is rare to, whereas I'm
sitting in the same chair from,you know, 26, 27 years ago.
Speaker 2 (56:13):
It's amazing, you know everybody's usually looking
for a different place, adifferent sound, experiment with
a new, a new room, you know,and all that.
Right, you're right.
That's the mentality, right,you know, and all that stuff,
right, you're right.
Speaker 6 (56:22):
That's the mentality, right?
Yes, you know, everybody thinks.
I mean at home, everybodyprobably thinks that we're
sitting in this amazing-lookingbuilding A state-of-the-art
studio and this place barely has, like you know, heat and air.
You can still smell the smoke?
No, you can.
But there is a thing in thatstudio with that group of guys
on the floor with Knox in therein the control room, Pete
(56:44):
Coleman back there, Pete didBlondie and the Knack and stuff
recorded them.
Speaker 1 (56:51):
Yeah, Pat Benatar.
Speaker 6 (56:53):
It's old school, neil , you just nailed it.
A lot of that rawness of thatstudio is part of the Aldine
thing.
So it's anyway, nick, that's.
I really remember recordingthat first album like it was
yesterday really.
Let's see what this one is.
Speaker 5 (57:11):
Hey guys, I'm Carrie from Way Park, minnesota, and I
have a logistics question.
From your instruments point ofview, can you take us through a
day in their life on tour, likewho packs, transports and sets
them up?
Do they fly on a plane?
Or do they ride in the back of?
a truck from stop to stop, whotunes them and how do you decide
(57:33):
which guitar you're going touse for each song?
And lastly, what is the worstonstage hiccup that you've had
with your instrument and how didyou handle it?
And, lastly, what is the worstonstage hiccup that you've had
with your instrument and how didyou handle it?
I hope this question doesn'tstrike the wrong chord.
Speaker 3 (57:49):
Oh, very nice Very nice, nice.
Speaker 1 (57:51):
Well, that's a lot of questions.
Let me see what part do we wantto get to.
Speaker 2 (57:56):
I want to know what mishap you've had.
That's the one.
Speaker 1 (57:59):
That's part of her question that's a good one to
start.
Mishaps are really unfortunate.
Um, have you dropped a guitaron stage?
I have dropped, okay, so that'sa good one.
So there used to be a bit inthe show where I would swing my
guitar around my neck prettyimpressive kind of like zz?
I don't know.
No, was like this, but I usedto swing it around my neck and
(58:23):
you know you have what they callstrap locks on your guitar.
For people to know that itlocks the strap onto your guitar
.
Mostly when you buy a strap youjust kind of pull it over the
button.
Not that safe if you're goingto swing it.
So I did swing the guitar, itdid, the strap locks did
malfunction and the guitar wentflying.
Speaker 3 (58:44):
Ooh that could be dangerous.
It could have been dangerous.
Speaker 1 (58:49):
I could have maybe killed somebody.
You could have killed Aldine.
Speaker 2 (58:53):
Yeah, you're right, I could have been out of a job,
yeah.
Speaker 1 (58:58):
That guitar rest in peace.
So, that's a mishap totally.
Speaker 3 (59:03):
You want to talk about one, the second, the
second part two was, uh,different bases or guitars for
different songs, like I thinkthat's.
I definitely have a lotunfortunately you know we've
talked about this before.
Speaker 1 (59:14):
Like I grew up, if you have one guitar, that's
amazing, it's you.
Oh, my god, I got this guitarand you think that's my guitar.
Well, well, I guess,unfortunately, or whatever,
there's a lot of songs that havedifferent tunings.
They have different sounds, soI probably change guitars every
song.
Now I'll reintroduce the guitarthrough the set, but every song
(59:38):
is a new guitar.
I do have a tech.
Tully has a tech.
They tune the guitars, they'reresponsible for packing.
They go on a bus, just like wedo.
You know that or I should say asemi, all the gear.
They go town to town with it um, what's her name?
Speaker 2 (59:53):
that asked the question.
What's her name is carrie,carrie, yeah, carrie, you should
see them without their texts.
It's really lonely, it'sactually sad, it's actually
really pathetic.
They have a heart for them.
Speaker 6 (01:00:03):
I actually broke into a cold sweat at the Ryman when
I realized wait, where are mycords and my tuner?
That was on me.
Speaker 2 (01:00:13):
You had to tune your own bass, poor you.
Speaker 3 (01:00:16):
He's like what are these lights?
But you know what I?
Speaker 1 (01:00:21):
mean without getting too deep in the woods.
It's like I don't even know howmy guitar rig works anymore.
Like there's I have this groundcontrol thing that if I want
delay and reverb and chorus onsomething, I just press the
pedal.
I know that part, but it's likeconnected through some weird
thing and goes back to differenteffect pedals on the back and
(01:00:43):
like if something goes out, I'mlike If something goes wrong,
you'll know it, because one ofour techs will be crawling on
their knees through the dark upto the board and fiddling with
stuff.
So I don't know how it works.
Yeah, we're very thankful forall of our crew, the techs.
Believe me, we're blessed and,like these guys say, it's to the
point of ridiculous.
Speaker 6 (01:01:03):
We do have an amazing road crew though.
Yeah, I'd say one of the, Imean, I think obviously I'm
biased, but one of the best.
They're just incredible.
When you got to have them, yeah, oh well, I mean, it's
impossible.
We always walk out of thereafter the show because usually
when they're sitting up we'renot awake.
(01:01:23):
These guys are up early.
Oh, they're up at 7.
So when we go get our coffee at11, stuff's set up, yeah Right.
Speaker 1 (01:01:35):
And then after the show's done, we always walk and
it's like completely, they tearthat stuff down so quick, like
an hour yeah, you'd be amazed athow quickly they can tear down
all the lights, all the staging,all the amps, and people don't
realize this.
You know, they see, you knowhow many put you on stage five
or six, and they don't realizethere's an army of people that
(01:01:59):
work with jason aldean, thealdean army, uh, that go there
and they set up, like tully says, at 7 am, they're tearing down
at 1 am and they're sleepingthat five hours in between.
Speaker 2 (01:02:11):
I don't think they sleep five hours yeah, they
might not not that, not thoseguys sounds like my monday
morning with lana.
You guys, you guys areborderline bubble people.
Speaker 1 (01:02:24):
Are we going?
Speaker 2 (01:02:25):
back to the bubble Yep borderline, Borderline
bubble people.
Why do you say this?
I don't know Catering.
Speaker 3 (01:02:32):
Sleeping in.
There are different levels ofbubbles.
Speaker 1 (01:02:35):
They do offer vegan options at our catering as well,
they do.
Speaker 6 (01:02:40):
And you have to for food allergies.
You know what's funny, neil?
It's funny you said thatbecause we always joke about it
at our table as well they do.
And you have to for foodallergies.
Well, you know what's funny,neil?
It's funny you said thatbecause we always joke about it.
It is living in a bubble, forsure, because play the show, get
off stage about 11.30, hang outa couple hours, get back in our
bus and our bunks aboutthree-ish and we wake up and it
(01:03:03):
all happens again in a differentplace.
So all that going around us,really we are caught.
Speaker 2 (01:03:09):
I can imagine y'all's schedule coming off a tour to
right now.
Speaker 6 (01:03:13):
Yeah, it gets different.
That's where these books comein handy A battle-tested guide
to enduring relationship.
That's a post-tour book formusicians as well.
Speaker 1 (01:03:25):
You bet it is oh my gosh hey guys, we uh, we gotta
wrap this up.
But you know, I kind of teasedthis early in the year, I didn't
know if it was true.
But we do have some really bigguests uh coming on and we're
we're pumped and we're thankfulwe got some great people coming
on.
So stick with us.
You're watching on youtube.
Uh, leave us a review, ed.
(01:03:46):
You're killing the reviews.
Yep, do the uh.
Do the five stars.
Jim's waving at me for you.
Speaker 2 (01:03:51):
Don't try that at smalltowncom and get some merch
y'all.
Speaker 1 (01:03:54):
We need to talk about e-spaces we need to talk about
e-spaces real quick.
New sponsor yes you want totalk about your buddy that you
take money for I'll play golfwith him.
Speaker 2 (01:04:03):
Yeah, he owns a company, e-spaces, and we may
wind up moving our studios.
We don't know, but we're goingback and forth.
Maybe we may go back and forthit's unbelievable yeah e-spaces
they're they're, uh, they're,they're built their floors that
they have in these high risesdowntown nashville and they got
one coming over in cool Springs.
They're super nice, they'resuper innovative, they're the
(01:04:26):
technology is super up to date.
It's really cool.
And on music row right and thenone one music row there's one
on music row and and they'regoing to be expanding probably.
Speaker 1 (01:04:37):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:04:38):
Yeah, you know we should do.
Speaker 6 (01:04:42):
What's that?
This comes back to the RV busthing.
Oh, try that on a small towntour, podcast tour, and we go
out and we'll do it in arestaurant or local bar.
Small town People come out,take their questions.
Don't give it away too early.
Yeah, it'd be fun, though yourwish might come't give it away
too early.
Speaker 1 (01:05:01):
Yeah, it'd be fun though your wish might come true
, we'll expand later.
Speaker 3 (01:05:04):
Yeah, there's more on that to come, yeah, restaurant
bar.
Speaker 2 (01:05:08):
You never know what's coming down.
I like the teas.
Speaker 3 (01:05:11):
they're telling I like the teas.
Speaker 1 (01:05:12):
I love it.
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Speaker 1 (01:05:29):
I think that's about it, right.
Yeah, what an episode Are youkidding me?
Speaker 3 (01:05:32):
That's a lot in this episode.
That is a lot.
Speaker 1 (01:05:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:05:45):
And there's a thankful for all of you, for
kayla, for thrash, for tk, andI'm the cop.
No, I don't know, I don't knowwe haven't said it on yet.
Speaker 1 (01:05:48):
We'll figure it out.
Yeah, you come all right.
Speaker 7 (01:05:49):
Thanks for listening guys make sure to follow along,
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And I don't know if you know this, but we happen to
propel careers here.
We had Cash Patel on before hewas the FBI director and look at
that.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
There you go.
I'm just saying.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
We had Kristi Noem on .
We simply befriended GovernorKristi Noem.
Speaker 4 (00:17):
And now look at her.
I don't know what she knows.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Travis has not told her yet.
I don't think she knows.
Speaker 4 (00:25):
You know I just look at her and say, shake it off.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
I'm going to go there .
Senator, you're running forgovernor, oh, wow.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Wow, 2026 would be the year.
This is not live.
Speaker 7 (00:39):
It would be.
Speaker 6 (00:40):
And it's just between us, just between us.
Yeah, we won't tell anybody.
Speaker 7 (00:46):
The Try that in a Small Town podcast begins now.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
Try that in a Small Town we are.
This is You're listening to theTry that in a Small Town
podcast Coming to you from thePatriot Mobile Studios.
K-lo Trash, tk.
I'm Kurt or whatever you wantto call me, it doesn't matter,
it actually just doesn't matter.
Speaker 2 (01:14):
Tonight, though, it was Cobb.
Nobody liked Cobb.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
I guess there's some off-putting references.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Yeah, apparently we saw that after we're still
bringing that to our attention.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Yeah, thanks, ed.
Uh, but you guys better getyour minds right, because we
gotta we gotta be thinking thehighest level tonight.
Still, how high, high.
Okay, you got to get yoursights set high.
We have a very special guest.
We had have Senator MarshaBlackburn coming on.
I have no idea how she agreedto this.
Speaker 2 (01:47):
I don't know why I don't either.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
But I'll say this and we'll talk about it.
She's been a huge proponent ofmusicians, songwriters, artists
in Tennessee.
She likes to take care of thepeople in Tennessee.
She knows that's a businessthat's unique to Nashville, so
it's going to be fun.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
And diminishing.
I mean, you know she, sinceI've been in town she has been
at every function, every awardshow, ever NSAI event with
Barton Herbison, I mean every,every she's.
She's present, you know, asmany times as possible.
And you know, not just, I meanshe's, she's there, you know,
and she really cares and she's,and she has also seen the
(02:27):
songwriter community, like us,seen it shrink, you know, over
the last 20 years.
You know it was, I think bartsaid, like 4 000 songwriters I
wonder why, years ago.
Yeah, and and that's that's.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
You know, not near that now and we'll ask her that,
like I mean yeah you know,there's a lot of things that I
think musicians and artists andpeople want to know, and we say
this a lot.
We have a lot of differentpeople on this podcast.
A lot of them happen to beartists or songwriters.
We'll have sports people on,we'll have whatever, but we
don't usually have politicians,but this one's.
(03:00):
Well they get intimidated.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
Yeah, well, they get intimidated and we get that I
understand.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
I think I'm going to ask her if she's going to run
for governor.
Do you think I should do that?
Please do it.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
I don't know if she'll tell you or not.
You should ask.
Speaker 1 (03:19):
You should also ask her about Taylor Swift you
should also ask her about.
Taylor Swift.
Oh the comments.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Okay, I will, I'm going to do it.
I'm doing it, I'll do it.
Everybody knows I'll do it.
Speaker 7 (03:27):
You're both the big friends of Taylor Swift.
Speaker 1 (03:30):
All right, let's not wait any longer, let's get right
to it.
Senator Marsha Blackburn,thanks for being here, come on.
Speaker 6 (03:38):
I mean, this is intimidating.
Speaker 2 (03:41):
It is.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
And we dressed up for you.
But an advocate for songwriterslike no other, though man, for
for years, I mean every time, Iknow, at the ascap awards, when,
uh, neil and I were there, youwere there every year and just
always been supporting us, andso we just want to say thanks,
we're thankful that you're herefor all the songwriters thank.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Thank you for everything you do.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
It is an honor and a privilege to do it and, as you
all have heard me say,songwriters, our creators, our
musicians have a constitutionalright to benefit from their
creations.
It is an Article I, section 8,clause 8, guarantee to those who
(04:27):
innovate and who create.
So, yes, indeed, it's part ofthat constitutional duty to
stand up and protect the rightof creators to be paid for their
innovations.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
We like you Amen.
We should have had you on along tour.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
It's true when we say we couldn't have said that
better.
Speaker 4 (04:49):
Absolutely not you know, but you would say it in a
different way and you would putmusic behind it and take three
minutes to tell the story.
Right, that's right, that'sright.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Well, and that's what you know what makes uh
tennessee, and especiallynashville, so unique, is it?
I mean, it's a town of artists,it's a town of musicians and
it's a town of songwriters,which is the most unique in the
country or in the world, Ibelieve, and you're you're
heading up a few legislativeacts which are hoping to protect
(05:19):
especially the artists and thesongwriters, which I think is
awesome.
And there's a couple I did wantto get your uh definition or
more of the opinion on.
I know there's like the um,it's the fake.
What is it uh?
no fakes yes, which I don'tthink people realize this like I
could go home tonight and Icould make a recording and it
(05:39):
would be me singing which you'dnot want to hear.
But then I could say put thisin in the voice of Jason Aldean.
And it's all of a sudden youthink Jason Aldean is singing
this song.
Oh, it's scary, it's very scary.
But I know, that you're tryingto help and protect that right.
Speaker 4 (05:53):
Absolutely, and I think it is so important that we
see what AI is doing andrecognize that Now there are
some industries like logisticsand advanced manufacturing and
healthcare that are going to dovery well with AI.
It'll bring efficiencies.
The federal government needs touse AI and the problem that we
(06:18):
have for our creators is theycan take your likeness, they can
take your voice and supplantthat to someone else and create
an image or create a sound.
So no fakes will give artiststhe ability to have standing and
(06:40):
then to take these bad actorsto court and to remove that work
and to keep them frombenefiting.
And that is something that withthis technology, we don't have
anything on the books that givesthe songer, that gives the
musician, that gives thevocalist the right to have those
(07:03):
protections.
So this is a bill that would dothat.
It's bipartisan, by the way, andwe've been trying to get
together a roundtable.
Chris Coons, senator Coons outof Delaware, is the lead
Democrat on the bill and he andI have been trying to work
(07:24):
schedules and get a roundtabletogether, but of course, since
the first of the year, we havebeen in DC five days a week, so
we've not been able to do that,but I thought it would be great
for him and a couple other of mycolleagues who do not have the
opportunity to have songwritersor vocalists in their
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communities to come to somewherelike Nashville where they could
sit down and hear from people,whether they're from music
publishing or a recording studioor a label or the entertainer,
and find out what thevulnerabilities are, how they've
been created that wouldadversely impact their line of
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work and prohibit them frombenefiting from that line of
work.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
Yeah, and one of the biggest things you did and it
was a good while back was theSongwriters equity act.
But then it's also where, wherewe can we've talked about this
a little bit before wheresongwriters we have, you know,
years sometimes of a catalog andthings like that and we can
sell that because it's abusiness and you can sell that
group right percentage of thatand and only pay capital gains
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taxes as opposed to ordinarytaxes, right.
Speaker 5 (08:43):
So which would kill us, you know?
Speaker 3 (08:45):
So, it just gives you a chance to stay in the
business longer.
Can you talk about that for asecond?
Speaker 4 (08:49):
Yeah, that was actually one of the first things
that I got passed in Congress,and it was a tax bill and I had
to take it through Ways andMeans Committee when I was in
the House at that point in timecommittee when I was in the
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House at that point in time, andwhat I realized as I started
working with my colleagues thatwere there in DC, I realized
that they did not understandwhat a catalog was.
A catalog is not an album.
A catalog is your life work.
That is for you, a smallbusiness person, your business,
that is your stock and trade.
And so we were able to get thispassed.
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And then, when you do sell acatalog and sell those rights,
you now pay cap gains on it asopposed to ordinary income tax,
which is a big difference andallows you, the creator of that
work, to keep more of that nestegg that you've built up in that
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work.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
We love those lower tax, those lower capital gains
taxes.
We love it.
Speaker 6 (10:00):
It's so refreshing for someone in your position to
talk to you about this, becauseI feel like you really
understand it and I think mostpeople in your position maybe
don't and when you'resongwriting and you're trying to
come up with these ideas andeverything's a small victory in
this business and all of it isjust so you seem to have such a
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grasp of how much that means tous financially and creatively.
So thank you for all that.
Speaker 7 (10:32):
Oh, I'm happy to do it, tell Spotify.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
Exactly right.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
You think you could get Elon to buy Spotify when you
get back to Washington?
Speaker 4 (10:40):
I think that's kind of out of my realm there a
little bit.
But here's the thing.
You know, at some point we'vegot to look at rates and
royalties and say why don't wefocus on end use?
Because radio pays for onething but not the other thing.
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And of course we have the AMFMAct to straighten that out.
They'll pay the songwriter,they don't pay the performer.
Then you've got rates forstreaming.
You've got rates.
It's really a hodgepodge.
So at some point we need to sayis this for just one-time use
and listening?
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Is this for replication?
Is this for commercial use?
And then make certain thatcreators are paid for what
they're creating.
People would not go intoWalmart and pick up a basket of
things and say, well, this isn'tmuch, I'm not going to pay for
it, but then they don't thinkabout it if they're ripping a
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song or somebody's not gettingpaid when it comes to your
entertainment.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
I always tell people, when you go into a restaurant
and imagine no music, go intojust about any venue or any
restaurant and turn the musicoff and see what it feels like
You'd hear a lot of peoplechewing and you would see how
important music is.
Speaker 4 (12:08):
Oh yeah, that's your ambiance.
Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
And you've always had an appreciation for it.
And Kurt and I were talkingearlier because you are a
musician you know, when you werea kid and played piano and
guitar Right, Ukulele gaveukulele lessons, that's right
played piano and guitar, RightUkulele gave ukulele lessons.
Speaker 5 (12:26):
That's right.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
Wow, what kind of lessons did you do?
Well, what?
Speaker 4 (12:28):
I found interesting.
Well, he's known me a while,yeah, but is the fact that you
said that gray hair?
It's kind of peeking out there,it's telling us what.
Speaker 6 (12:39):
What are?
Speaker 7 (12:40):
you saying Wait.
Speaker 6 (12:41):
Oh, I, oh, I love that.
And the senator.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
I did mention to him last episode.
I said you're growing it out onthe sides.
I've got a haircut which I kindof love.
I've got a haircut.
Since then he's grown.
Before you say you know, Idon't want to interrupt, I'm
sorry, I'm sorry.
But the senator would alwayslook at the writers' names, the
sheet music and stuff like that.
That's right, I and stuff likethat.
Speaker 4 (13:00):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
I found that fascinating because I never,
even as a songwriter, I neverdid that.
I didn't look at the writersand stuff, but you did.
Yes, so you've always had anappreciation for writers, which
I think is amazing.
Speaker 4 (13:09):
Yeah, who wrote the lyrics?
Yeah, you know how did thiscome to be and I think it's
fascinating to that church music, like a lot of people I know
you did so he's old.
It's amazing he is old, he'sreal old I'm older than
everybody at this tableconversation.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
No, I don't know.
I thought I was older than youno, you're not, oh no uh, let's
talk about also, as long aswe're on this, uh, music talk in
the business.
I know that you recently sent aletter to the FCC and this is
important too, because payola,people think that was a term,
that and something that onlyhappened in the 50s and then in
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the 90s and 2000s, but it stillgoes on and it just happens
differently.
And maybe an artist goes andplays a radio station show for
free in order to get moreairplay, and I know that's
something you're trying toprotect the artists on.
Can you speak to that a little?
Speaker 4 (14:10):
bit?
I certainly will, and it's sointeresting how issues come back
in a different form.
Speaker 1 (14:16):
Right, because this has been around for a long time.
Speaker 4 (14:18):
Yes, that's right.
And I had some road musiciansbasically talk to me about this.
People I would run into everyonce in a while and a few
artists and they would say, hey,I would hear about this
practice that had come to bewith some of the large radio
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systems and basically if youwere doing a tour and they were
involved in the concert comingto town, then they would give
you more airplay for certaincuts.
If you would do a meet andgreet for their advertisers, a
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private show for theiradvertisers, and this happens
all the time, all the time.
It happened to me a lot in the90s, a lot and uh, they were
saying people started using theterm this is just a new form of
payola.
So I started hearing more aboutit from a wider group of people
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and I thought there issomething to this.
So so I sent a letter toBrendan Carr, who's the chairman
of the FCC, who oversees all ofthis, and I said I think this
is an issue that we need to putsome attention on and just see
what is happening.
I know the FCC has guidance onpayola practices and it seems
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that now it is coming forward inanother form and this is what
it is.
And so he sent out a letter,basically a warning, to the
radio stations and then issuedguidance to be certain they
understand they.
If an artist is coming to townand they are doing a concert,
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that radio station cannot, theycannot, tie a free show, free
services of the artist and themusician, to airplay and uh,
there, it is a law and um how doyou police that?
I don't even know you know, Ithink that's one of those things
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that will be up to the fcc forme.
It was just I've been madeaware of it.
Speaker 1 (16:38):
You wanted to bring light to it, as we typically do.
Speaker 4 (16:41):
I said here you might want to take a look at this and
investigate it.
You all tend to it, but here'swhat I'm hearing from some
people that are on the road.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
That even gets more interesting to me, like when
you're talking about benefits,Because radio stations will
always ask artists to come.
Hey, will you come?
play a few songs for thiscertain benefit, right?
So let's assume that Tully andI have a new duo and the only
reason we don't because we knewit'd be incredibly successful.
We wouldn't get my sake.
But if we did and we're tryingto get a our record played and
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stuff like that, and somebodycalls us from our hometown or
whatever said, hey, would y'allcome to raise some money, you
know, for these kids, everythingworth I would just be thinking
internally, hey, if I do, theymight add a record.
So that gets a little tricky.
Speaker 6 (17:29):
Well, that's the whole thing Years ago, being on
a radio tour.
Every time you had a dinnerwith a radio station, the label
takes the radio people out andwe're all sitting there.
I remember the old days.
We're thinking, well, this isgoing well, We'll probably get
another 10.
Well, this is going well, we'reprobably getting another 10
spins in this station this week.
You know, that's how it was.
(17:49):
Yeah, it was, it was tight.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
Yeah, we did many shows like that.
Well, and For nobody evensitting there, for the radio
station, for their advertisers,for whatever.
And yeah, we'll add your recordand they add it.
And then they take it off theplaylist.
You know a week later they kepttheir word, but they didn't say
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how long that they would.
It's not right.
Speaker 4 (18:12):
It's just not right to do people that way well, and
that's what I would hear frompeople that were on the road and
, as I said, I'm not in thatbusiness.
We don't handle that typeinvestigation at our level.
That is for the FCC, but it isimportant when the people that I
represent, my constituents,when they're bringing an issue
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to me, it is incumbent upon meto turn that over to the
appropriate agency.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
So we did.
And hopefully it will Hopefullythey're doing their job.
Speaker 4 (18:49):
Yeah, hopefully, hopefully, so.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
And all you can do is hear from guys like us, that's
it.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
That's it.
Well, I want to bring somethingto your attention and maybe you
can get it to the higher powers.
Can we somehow keep daylightsavings time?
Listen when yes, yes, at leastin Tennessee, you know some
states do it right like indianaI mean, this is the craziest
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thing, because I have sponsoredthe bill for years.
Speaker 4 (19:22):
That would say, pick one I.
I don't care which one you pick, but I'm tired of changing the
clock.
And you look at what it costspeople and it costs companies to
go in and do all these resetsand it is just absolutely
ridiculous.
Do you want more daylight inthe morning or do you want it in
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the afternoon?
Pick one.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
I would like daylight and I would like, I want to
pick the more sunshine in theafternoon.
Absolutely, I'm a musician.
I wake up late.
Look at everybody around theboard.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
Look at everybody's mood.
When the time changes,everybody's, their whole mood
changes, their whole characterchanges.
They're ready.
They'll work longer hours, noproblem, we got.
We got more daylight.
I like it dark.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
I prefer more dark.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
I get that.
Speaker 6 (20:08):
That's why the office has no windows, you guys know
this, I get that.
Speaker 1 (20:10):
Where do you stand, do you just?
Speaker 4 (20:13):
want to stay one way.
I would prefer daylight savingstime Me too, Year round.
But I just say stop the madnessof changing the clocks.
I mean, it makes no sense atall to me that we change the
clocks and then we change themback, and then we change them.
You know.
Speaker 6 (20:31):
What if we made it fun and just land somewhere in
the middle?
Do a half hour Like 45 minutes?
Speaker 4 (20:40):
I'd just throw the whole thing off.
Yeah, I would throw the wholething off.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
I mean, why not?
You just blew my mind.
Why does it have to?
Speaker 6 (20:47):
be.
Can't we just do a half hour,Do a half?
Speaker 2 (20:50):
hour 31 minutes.
I'm going to go there, senator,you're running for governor.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
Oh wow, wow, 2026 would be the this is not live.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
It would be, and it's just between us.
Speaker 6 (21:01):
And it's just between us.
Just between us.
Yeah, we won't tell anybody.
Speaker 4 (21:05):
I'm giving a good, serious look at running for
governor.
Speaker 7 (21:09):
Yes.
Speaker 4 (21:10):
And if I run, I will win.
Speaker 7 (21:13):
Oh yes.
Speaker 2 (21:14):
Okay.
Speaker 7 (21:14):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
Well, you heard it here first yes, 100%, you're
amazing.
Speaker 4 (21:20):
If I run, I will be the strongest conservative in
the race.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
I believe that too, and I don't know if you know
this, but we happen to propelcareers here.
Speaker 2 (21:33):
I don't know if you know this.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
We had Kash Patel on before.
He was the FBI director andlook at that, there you go.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
I'm just saying we had Kristi Noem on.
Speaker 3 (21:43):
We simply befriended Governor Kristi Noem.
Now look at her.
Speaker 1 (21:48):
So you made a good choice by stopping by your
future's bright, of course.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
So, is it true that the whole demeanor, like in
restaurants and hotels of DC,changes with each administration
?
It does.
I've always heard that Iwouldn't experience it myself.
Speaker 4 (22:07):
What are you talking about?
People are happy and they'rehopeful and it is like a new
attitude.
But here is the way I kind oflook at it.
I think that there areimportant moments in the life of
a family or the life of acountry, and 1776, important to
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us.
You look at how we reallysolidified ourselves as one
nation in that period from 1861to 1865.
You look at what happened aroundWorld War II, when people said
and you look from 1938 to 1945,and people said we are Americans
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, we are the USA, we can do this, we are the greatest generation
, the USA, we can do this, weare the greatest generation.
And I think 2024 was another ofthose pivotal starts.
The American people said we arenot giving in to DEI, we are
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sick and tired of ESG, we knowthat men and women are different
.
We believe in a strong military, we love our country and we are
not going to put up with thisstuff.
And they showed up and theygave Donald Trump a mandate to
get our fiscal house in order toget this country back on track
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and keep it on track.
Country back on track and keepit on track.
And I fully believe that theAmerican people are expecting
big things.
I told my colleagues the otherday we were talking about it and
we're finding about $4 billiona day in cuts that we can do
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from Doge and I said, you know,let's not limit ourselves and
say, well, we're satisfied withone and a half trillion dollars
in cuts.
Let's take every cut that wecan get and let's get every
dollar of fraud and waste out ofthe federal government, because
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it is the taxpayer's dollar,it's not government's money.
It is taxpayer money that isgoing to waste on these projects
.
It may be $3 trillion, it maybe $2 trillion, but let's cut it
all.
Then let's see what we've gotand then let's get government to
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the point that it is modernizedto deliver all of its services
and that we're going to be ableto meet the needs of people that
need services and defend ournation and get our taxes low and
secure our southern border andget inflation down and get busy
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with this and send that powerand money back to the states for
health care and education andregulation and benefits.
And Tennessee should be we havethe potential to be.
We should be.
We have the potential to be.
We should be America'sconservative leader.
Speaker 1 (25:28):
Yes, we should.
Oh, I love it.
I think we can.
I absolutely love that.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
I've got to ask the senator what it was like the
night that the president gavethe address.
What was, what was that vibelike inside the room?
Speaker 7 (25:43):
I mean, for us, watching it on tv was like,
we're like what is going on?
Speaker 2 (25:48):
I can't imagine what it was like there you know what?
Speaker 4 (25:52):
um, I was so pleased that he had a good time giving
that address.
And I am so pleased that theresponse from the American
people was what it was.
I mean, everybody liked that.
I think it was like a 70%approval rating or something I
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think that the Democratic Partyand their conduct.
they could not stand up for achild that had survived brain
cancer and a kid that was goingto West Point and parents that
had lost their children, a girlwho had been injured in an
accident, with a guy playing inwomen's sports.
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They couldn't stand up and showgratitude for law enforcement
and I thought the conduct wasabsolutely abhorrent.
If you're not going to applaudand if you don't like President
Trump, don't take it out onpeople that have overcome
adversity.
(26:58):
Cheer for them.
Cheer for them.
Cheer for them.
Speaker 3 (27:01):
Cheer for them.
Speaker 4 (27:02):
And let the American people see that you are cheering
for people that have overcomeobstacles.
Be on their team.
But they could not bringthemselves to do that.
But here's what I do think theDemocrats have done they have
convinced themselves that theywere right on November 5th and
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that everybody else was wrongand they have refused to listen
to the American people.
And you know we talk a lotabout issues that are 80-20
issues.
The Democrats are with the 20.
It's unbelievable.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
And they're stuck there, they, they left all of
the 80.
Speaker 4 (27:46):
And it's like they're completely out of step with the
American people and where theyare.
I just think they are so off onthe wrong track, the wrong
(28:10):
track and um their conduct, II'm.
I am hopeful that members ofthe democratic party will call
their elected representativesout about that I asked somebody
about that the other day.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
I was like is there anybody in the?
In the party in the democraticparty that has stepped up and go
hey y'all, this is not workingwell, the.
Moment has anybody done that?
Speaker 6 (28:24):
the moment when that little boy, the moment that
little boy got the hug secretservice agent and had his back
like tears yeah, just streamingit was like it was such an
incredible moment and, to me,like to see no one on the
Democratic side stand up reallyjust ripped the bandaid off
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anyone who was wondering howthey really truly were, because
if you don't feel that, I know,yeah, I mean you can't, and I
was surprised that no one reallystood up at all and broke order
with I don't know how y'allheld your tongues over here on
the right side, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (29:01):
Everybody wasn't I can't know how y'all held your
tongues over here on the rightside.
I don't know how everybodywasn't.
I can't believe it didn't comeon the hamster for a second.
When I was working my waythrough college selling books
door to door for theSouthwestern Company, I learned
a really important lesson, andit is don't waste your time
worrying about things you cannotcontrol.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
I cannot control what the Democrats, I'm learning
from you, neal.
Speaker 2 (29:29):
She's looking right at you, I know.
I'm like see Neal we were right.
I have to commend her on thewhole Taylor Swift comment and
stuff.
And you held your tongue onthat one and I would have come
unhinged.
Speaker 5 (29:42):
And I'm learning from you.
Speaker 2 (29:43):
I hope you're governor and you're a good
influence on me.
Let me tell you, Because ifTaylor Swift were to talk to me
like she talked to you, I wouldhave come unhinged and you.
Speaker 4 (29:55):
Taylor Swift is a talented young woman and I am so
pleased that Nashville is thecenter of her creative universe.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
Yes.
Speaker 4 (30:05):
We have a difference of opinion, obviously.
Speaker 2 (30:08):
You're so nice.
You're so nice, You'redefinitely going to win.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
Governor.
There are no two ways about it.
I think she was given badinformation.
Speaker 4 (30:19):
Who has done more to fight human trafficking and sex
trafficking?
Me?
Who has done more to protectkids in the virtual space, kids
online safety act, report, act,all these pieces that I've got?
Who's done more to protectsongwriters, songwriters, equity
, music modernization we've gotno fakes.
(30:40):
We've got the copied act, uh,the american music tourism act,
all these different bills.
So does she know that?
Speaker 3 (30:50):
I don't know, I don't what travis has not told her.
I don't think she knows.
You know, I just look at herand say shake it off.
Speaker 1 (31:01):
Where's?
Speaker 7 (31:02):
the drum set.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
That's amazing.
Hey, real quick, let's talkabout the first 100 days.
Actually, what are we twomonths in Trump's first 100 days
?
Speaker 4 (31:15):
He can't do math.
Speaker 1 (31:17):
Yeah right, the border is basically closed.
Yes, amazing Inflation down.
Yes, ukraine and russia peacetalks.
Rosie o'donnell has left thecountry.
It's an amazing first uh,couple months.
How do you feel about the first100 days?
Speaker 4 (31:38):
I am so excited about where we are after this first
50 days.
I think it is that we'vecompleted.
We have gotten PresidentTrump's entire cabinet confirmed
.
So, that is phenomenal Recordtime and we're working on
deputies and assistants and allof those other components at
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this point in time and he is soaggressive.
I just am so grateful that he'sgot so much energy that he is
just going to it and it's everyday, it's so.
Speaker 6 (32:15):
It's so much.
Actually, someone's actuallydoing something they voted in
and now people aren't used to itlike, oh they're, they're doing
what they said they do.
You're right, that's right.
Speaker 4 (32:24):
This can happen he made promises, he is keeping
promises and he is doing a greatjob.
Jd vance is going to go down inhistory as one of the best vps
ever and they are determined toshrink the size of government in
washington dc.
And they are determined toshrink the size of government in
Washington DC and they will andthey will send that power back
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to the states and the states aregoing to have to do good things
with it.
But I think it is phenomenalthat when you look at the border
, when you look at crime incities, when you look at respect
for law enforcement, when youtalk about inflation coming down
, when you look at gettingpeople to the negotiating table
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using tariffs because his goalis to get reciprocal tariffs or
no tariffs so that we can getthe cost down, so that company
countries are not padding theireconomies because they're
tariffing us yeah, people don'trealize that they're tariffing
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us huge percentages yes, that iswhat you call trade deficits
rightand so we are continuing to push
on this to get these thingsdone soon.
We know we've got a two-yearwindow and we're going to have
to work every single day to getthese things done, but with
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President Donald Trump back inthe White House, our allies know
they're an ally, our enemiesknow they're an ally, our
enemies know they're an enemy.
Countries know that they needto come to the White House and
they need to negotiate with him.
And they are coming and theyare showing up.
And I'm on Senate FinanceCommittee and I can tell you
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we've had the Canadian Agminister and oil minister and
finance minister and commerceminister all of them coming to
the office.
We've had all these countrieswith their different ministers
of finance and economics cominginto the office.
They want to do business withthe United States of America.
That is a good thing and wewant that to be a level playing
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field that is going to help usto grow jobs and grow salaries
and build our economy, andthat's a good thing.
And that's a big part of thefocus that we have is that
prosperity and getting us backon the right track.
Speaker 2 (35:03):
Your timing as governor is going to be perfect
it is I can't wait.
Speaker 4 (35:09):
You're Johnny.
One Note today Come on.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
Do you think we'll get like the Doge dividends?
Do you think that will actuallyhappen?
Or will the dividends just goback into the American pot just
to make everything stronger?
What I want is.
Speaker 4 (35:23):
There's a process we do that is called rescissions,
and this is when we take savingslike that and we cut it out of
the federal budget and theOffice of OMB, office of
Management and Budget, has toask us to make those rescissions
and we can pass that throughboth chambers of Congress.
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Then those programs and thatfunding goes bye-bye.
It is cut out of the budget.
I we need to doge everythingout and then we need to put us
(36:08):
on Ozempic for life.
Federal government.
And just you know take thoseGLP-1s every day you know, and
just keep this thing trimmeddown and skinnied up, and that's
what the American people wantto see.
It's certainly what Tennesseanswant to see.
Speaker 1 (36:29):
Awesome, absolutely.
Senator.
We know your time is precious.
We can't thank you enough forbeing here with us, and when you
came on, I was going to ask ifyou've ever been with four more
clueless or unqualified people,but they make you sit with
democrats all the time we'revery appreciative.
Speaker 3 (36:48):
What do you got?
Well, I was going to see if youwere going to ask her what we
ask most of our guests each time.
They come go real quick.
We'll end with this uh, whatdid you think the first time you
heard jason aldean sing thesong?
Speaker 4 (36:57):
try that in small town I thought, yeah, you got it
, that's great.
What a great song.
Speaker 7 (37:04):
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I love it Growing up in a small town, I could totally
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Like we said, you've got the backs of all the
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We all the musicians, artists, songwriters here in
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You got it and I appreciate youall.
Thank you for having me on.
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Thank you very much, Senator.
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We're back and Kayla just saidwhat are we doing now?
I need to know, I need to know,I know, I need to know, I know.
Well, what we're saying is wewere just talking as the senator
left sounds like she might runfor governor.
Speaker 2 (39:09):
Sounds like she's confident.
I know I wasn't expecting that.
Speaker 1 (39:13):
That's a baller, answer it wasn't that?
Speaker 2 (39:16):
like I don't know, I'm thinking about it.
I'm kind of weighing my odds.
I'm thinking, no, she went tostraight, I'm going to win.
Speaker 1 (39:21):
You figure the politician answer is that Then
she's like no yeah, I'll win.
Speaker 2 (39:27):
That was not a politically correct answer she
gave us at all.
Speaker 6 (39:30):
I think she's got a good feel for the spirit of the
country right now and the stateright now.
What a great lady Trump lovesher.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
She can't lose Smart, she's a winner, she's a winner,
she's a winner kind of like usyeah, that's right yeah.
Speaker 6 (39:44):
I'm thinking about running, I'm nursing.
Speaker 1 (39:46):
I wish you lived after that, because you, you
have the last name.
How?
Speaker 6 (39:50):
hard.
Can it be?
Yes, I, you know Kennedy,another one to cross the party
line.
Perhaps maybe I don't know.
I feel like my time's now.
Speaker 3 (40:01):
Vote Kennedy, maybe maybe, maybe, I don't know.
I feel like my time's now.
Vote Kennedy, maybe, maybe VoteKennedy.
And speaking of winners, Ithought you were going to talk
about the merch a little bit.
Oh, the merch I'm going to talk.
Yeah absolutely.
Speaker 2 (40:10):
This is my new turkey hunting hat.
I have on, I like that Turkeyseason's coming up.
Speaker 5 (40:13):
It's right around the corner.
Speaker 2 (40:15):
And who wouldn't want one of these camo Camo, try
that in a small town podcastHats.
Speaker 1 (40:20):
And then Nice, kalo's got a black one.
Is this Kalo's hat?
Speaker 3 (40:23):
Yeah, I brought that just in case.
Speaker 2 (40:25):
Where can you find these hats?
By the way, try that in asmalltowncom Boom.
Go to the store.
What these are available, go tothe store.
These are available Right nowyou know how many turkeys I oh
my God, when is turkey season?
Speaker 1 (40:40):
I have no idea.
Middle April, I think it'sApril 13th, right after duck
season April 12th in Tennesseeand I'm pissed about that, we're
all pissed.
Speaker 2 (40:47):
All the turkey hunters in Tennessee are pissed
about that.
Why?
Because they took two weeksaway from us.
It used to open like at thebeginning of April, end of March
.
The lack of turkey.
No, that's their excuse, Idon't believe it.
Speaker 1 (41:00):
That's their excuse.
Oh, did they actually use thatas an excuse?
Speaker 2 (41:03):
is that?
I don't know, really know whatthe real excuse, their real
excuse well, did the bird flu gofrom the chickens to the
turkeys?
Speaker 3 (41:10):
no, it did not.
Speaker 1 (41:11):
I wish we would have had this conversation with this
nothing to do with it.
Speaker 2 (41:16):
It's, it's.
I don't know why.
It's.
Probably there's probably aliberal in charge of the two
twra.
That's my guess.
It's never even been hunting inhis life, probably.
That's probably what the reasonis.
That's usually what the problemis no, it's not a her, I don't
know.
Anyway, we want our full turkeyseason back.
(41:37):
If anybody's listening from theTWRA, I want it back.
Speaker 6 (41:41):
I want my two weeks back Now.
We need to have enough turkeysfor Thanksgiving.
I don't want to risk that.
That's my favorite.
Speaker 2 (41:47):
Those are domesticated turkeys, tully.
Oh, I knew that.
Those are farm-raised turkeys,not the ones I eat.
Speaker 3 (41:56):
We're not talking about the ones that you actually
kill and dress yourself.
We want to go to Publix and getone.
Speaker 2 (42:04):
Our listeners need to know that I need to take these
three guys turkey hunting.
I've been turkey hunting One ofthe worst experiences.
Speaker 1 (42:09):
I've had.
Really, you need to go with oldNeil.
I don't even know nothing aboutit.
Speaker 6 (42:13):
I was in Texas with Tyler Farr.
It was 155 degrees?
Speaker 2 (42:18):
Oh, is that when the cartel came up on your blind?
Speaker 6 (42:19):
I was sitting there in a blind with Heller Farr and
he's like man, I'm the bestturkey caller in the west side
of Mississippi.
I'm like, okay, this will becool.
And he starts doing this crazysound and no turkeys come Two
hours, no turkeys come.
We get back to the lodge.
Everybody's got turkeys Six,seven turkeys laid out just, and
(42:42):
not us, nothing.
Speaker 2 (42:43):
So anyway, I don't know you need to go with old
trash what time do you have towake up to go turkey?
You got to get up well, beforethe sun comes out.
Well, we went out.
The heat of the afternoon.
Speaker 6 (42:53):
Maybe that was a problem with a bottle of whiskey
, so maybe that's you can goanytime, really.
Speaker 2 (42:59):
oh yeah, certain states cut it off at like one
o'clock, but here here inTennessee you can hunt all day.
I've killed more turkeys in theafternoon than I have in the
morning.
Yeah, because I can call my assoff.
Speaker 1 (43:11):
Give it to us, or do you have?
Speaker 2 (43:12):
a little thing.
I don't have my diaphragm withme.
Now we're talking aboutpreventing pregnancy, I have to
put my diaphragm in my mouth.
Speaker 3 (43:22):
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
Don't do that.
That sounds disgusting.
No, it's amazing sounding.
Speaker 2 (43:27):
No it's a wonderful sound.
Speaker 3 (43:28):
Oh gosh, it works.
I hope my mother's notlistening.
Speaker 2 (43:30):
Yeah, let's pivot.
He calls all the ladies in.
Speaker 1 (43:33):
TK, you got this book in front of you.
I think it's important Actually.
Speaker 6 (43:36):
Jason Redman, a really good friend of ours.
We had him on early on in thepodcast Navy SEAL Navy SEAL
American hero.
His book Trident is anincredible story about what he
went through.
Great guy.
He came out to a show after thepodcast brought his wife out.
Him and his wife wrote thisbook together Mission Invincible
(43:59):
Marriage a battle-tested guideto an enduring relationship.
It's pretty amazing.
Him and his wife are inspiring.
They wrote this book to justlend some knowledge and advice
to couples and I, I you know hesent that to you specifically.
Well, to us to the podcast.
Speaker 3 (44:16):
Yeah, it would take a much larger book yeah, when you
get through with it in four orfive months pass it around to us
.
Speaker 2 (44:24):
Does Jason turkey hunt Redmond?
Yeah, because turkey hunters Imean marriages are kind of on
the rocks for turkey hunters.
I know they're gone all thetime.
Speaker 6 (44:34):
Well whatever he's doing must be working, because
this book is and, honestly, whatthey've gone through is a
couple Right.
What he's gone through and howyou get through that.
He's just one of my favoritepeople.
He's an incredible uh person.
His wife's amazing.
So, um, gary sinistra, theforward, um, so nice yeah, check
it out, check it out.
I definitely want to check itout, you know um proud of him
(44:57):
and and he's just, he's allabout helping any way he can.
Speaker 1 (45:03):
Yeah, he's a badass.
Yeah, we need more people.
Speaker 6 (45:06):
Jason, Erica, thank you for sending this.
We will pass it around andhopefully our wives will
appreciate what we've done.
Speaker 1 (45:15):
I hope so too.
I think we're getting there.
Yeah, inch by inch.
Hey, have you guys?
Yeah, inch by inch.
Speaker 2 (45:23):
Hey have you guys.
Nice choice of words there.
Kurt, nice segue from thediaphragm Really yeah inch by
inch.
Speaker 3 (45:29):
What do you mean by that?
Speaker 1 (45:34):
I'm sorry, Mom, I was going to ask and now I'm
off-put Topical conversation.
Have you guys been hearing theswatting going on?
Speaker 2 (45:44):
You haven't heard of swatting.
No, I've heard of squatting,hearing the swatting going on
you haven't heard swatting.
Speaker 1 (45:47):
No, it's like, but not swatting.
So apparently, like you get a,there's a call to the swap team
that arrives at the house andit's basically like the new
prank call and oh yeah it's likea deal and they're targeting
conservatives like this is likehappening all over, but since
you guys don't know anythingabout it, I guess we want to
have this conversation.
Speaker 6 (46:05):
No, I want to know more about it.
I've been off the grid for agood week and a half.
God good for you.
So I didn't look at any.
Maybe I missed it in the.
Speaker 1 (46:14):
No, it's just been happening a lot lately and it's
I don't know, it's justconcerning, because it's
basically targeting, uh,conservative voices, cough,
cough, especially you, neil,bring it.
Uh.
Well, yeah, we'll save it for adifferent episode, but, uh,
maybe swatting swatting.
Speaker 2 (46:33):
Yeah, I hadn't heard that one yeah, yep, check it out
check it out.
So if I use that, if a like aswat team shows up in the front
of them, yeah, there's a.
Speaker 1 (46:39):
It's basically like a high level prank call hey, wow,
somebody murdered somebody overat 1805 johnson street.
Yeah, they show up to yourhouse and it's a serious
situation they come busting inand stuff.
Speaker 3 (46:52):
Yeah, yeah, oh, that's nice when you said
swatting, at first I thought youwere talking, because we just
talked about, like jasonredmond's book, invincible
marriage.
I thought you were talkingabout us reaching for our wives
in a lovemaking gesture and thenswatting.
That was where my head was.
I was so far away from that, ohmy God.
Speaker 1 (47:14):
The segue wasn't that great.
Speaker 3 (47:16):
I was so far away.
You're on fire tonight.
Speaker 6 (47:17):
I'm so far away.
You are, you're on fire.
Speaker 1 (47:20):
Oh my gosh.
I don't even know where to goafter that.
Speaker 3 (47:23):
Oh well, we could go to Tully.
You had a point.
I think it was about Neil'sdaughter's wife, Neil's
daughter's wife's uncle.
Speaker 5 (47:33):
Yeah, no, Allie Neil's daughter is getting
married soon, right?
Speaker 3 (47:38):
Yes, and so we talked about the menu and things like
that.
And we always have thrash talk,and so something came up, or
you questioned, I questionedsomething, you questioned the
menu.
Speaker 6 (47:47):
I questioned them.
Well, Ali was talking to me andCaleb before the podcast I
haven't seen the menu.
You haven't.
No, you're about to.
Speaker 1 (47:54):
But you're paying for the menu, yep.
Speaker 7 (47:57):
So, Ali said she just got the menu back and there's a
braised short rib, which soundsright.
Speaker 3 (48:06):
It sounds in line.
Speaker 6 (48:07):
There's a chicken glazed with a very fancy sauce.
Speaker 2 (48:11):
Wait a minute, that's okay.
How do you guys know thisbefore I do?
Speaker 3 (48:15):
Well, it's because we care about people and we were
just asking Allie about her life.
Speaker 2 (48:20):
She had a menu in her hand, though she showed you.
Speaker 6 (48:23):
No, she knows the menu.
It's done though.
Speaker 2 (48:25):
And she knows the dollar amount.
We didn't talk about that.
Speaker 3 (48:30):
But go ahead and get to the last.
Speaker 6 (48:31):
The most interesting part is when she said the vegan
option.
It's a giant piece ofcauliflower, but then I don't
know what's in it, but I wassurprised that there is a vegan
option Kayla goes, that's a veryliberal menu that's for a man's
man to be supplying all thefood.
Speaker 3 (48:52):
We thought it was odd that you would have a vegan
option.
Speaker 2 (48:54):
There's no vegans coming to her wedding.
Speaker 3 (48:57):
That you said hey guys, shouldn't we get something
for the vegans?
What vegans?
There's a vegan coming, Justvegans.
What vegans?
There's a vegan coming.
Speaker 7 (49:04):
Just telling you what vegans, and it is costly there
must be a vegan coming it's moreexpensive than the short ribs.
Speaker 2 (49:08):
Absolutely Well, that's always going to be that
way.
I know Organic, all the veganmenu.
It's always going to be moreexpensive.
Speaker 3 (49:16):
That's the way the limbs work.
Tully Telly wants to know whyyou approved it.
Speaker 6 (49:20):
Well we wanted to know.
I haven't approved it?
Speaker 7 (49:22):
I haven't seen it.
Speaker 1 (49:22):
We wanted to know, not just me, right, caleb, yeah,
we wanted to know but if you'revegan, why not just eat the
salad and the vegetables?
Do you have to have the maincourse, exactly?
Speaker 6 (49:32):
You know why?
Why, I'll tell you why.
Speaker 3 (49:34):
Okay, I'm not catering to veg.
Here's your question.
Speaker 6 (49:39):
The reason is because if you don't have a vegan dish,
they don't get to say I'm vegan, because that's their favorite
thing to do is to say I'm vegan.
Speaker 1 (49:48):
It's true.
Speaker 6 (49:49):
They can't just pick around the stuff and they have
to say I'm vegan, no, I'm vegan,I'm vegan.
They love it, that's theirgo-to.
Speaker 3 (49:56):
Some people do have food allergies.
Well, I have food allergies,but I don't know.
But it could be.
Just say that.
But some people would have toeat vegan because of legit
allergies I agree.
Speaker 1 (50:07):
Yeah, is there a dairy free option on this menu
that I don't know?
Speaker 2 (50:11):
eat some freaking meat man, geez man up, eat some
meat man up girl oh, I love youguys now we'll say here's what
I'll say um the.
Speaker 6 (50:24):
I have had an impossible burger yeah, actually
you introduced me to animpossible burger nice what did
you say?
Speaker 3 (50:32):
kayla, joe nichols restaurant, the impossible, very
funny.
Speaker 1 (50:35):
And you didn't get any royalty song in there.
Speaker 6 (50:38):
He plugged it that way it was I'm trying it's
interesting.
Speaker 1 (50:41):
I mean it's got the texture yeah, you took me to a
place in new york city and wehad one and it was actually
pretty good, yeah, but uh, yeah,it never can replace.
Speaker 6 (50:53):
Well, no, you know, and I'd be surprised that neil
will have a vegan option, thathis daughters were my favorite
thing.
Speaker 2 (51:00):
Yeah, it's not the thing that you're wrong with me.
Speaker 6 (51:02):
I haven't seen it yet , you're right well, you're
right, it's definitely not up toyou.
Speaker 2 (51:05):
No, it's not I offered him 50 grand to go.
Just go get married and go tothe courthouse, just go on
that's so smart.
Speaker 1 (51:12):
What a great idea.
That's so smart dude wanted her.
Speaker 2 (51:15):
Her fiance roger wanted to do it.
He's like they all.
You know, the dudes always wantthe money Right.
Speaker 3 (51:21):
Take the money You'll be, married either way Well
thankfully it sounds like he'sloaded why not start a nest egg.
Speaker 2 (51:26):
You know I offered the cash.
I did it for my first daughterand I did it for this one, and
they want the show.
Speaker 7 (51:32):
They don't want the cash, they want the show.
They have the nest egg.
It's you.
Speaker 2 (51:37):
No, no, no, Once they get married it's over Are eggs
vegan.
Speaker 6 (51:41):
There are no more eggs, no eggs are not vegan
Because you said nest egg.
Can anyone buy eggs anymore?
Eggs are down.
Speaker 3 (51:49):
They're coming down.
Speaker 6 (51:50):
Yeah, oh, the price are coming down.
Yeah, it's going to.
Speaker 2 (51:55):
We talked about it a little bit on another podcast.
I remember they were like Idon't know it was it equaled
just a little under buck an egg.
I'm like, go buy some chickensif you don't want to buy eggs go
buy some chickens.
Speaker 6 (52:05):
It's a lot cheaper you got to build a coop a lot of
trouble.
Speaker 2 (52:09):
Yeah, yeah, I forget.
You don't work with your hands.
You don't even carry your base.
Speaker 1 (52:15):
You couldn't build a guys we don't know what to do.
We haven't played a show in Idon't know how long been a
minute it's been a little bit.
Aldine texted what was theother day or was it you that
texted us and be like oh my god,can we go, please play a show?
Speaker 6 (52:30):
just wandering around yeah, have no purpose, kind of
sad you too.
Speaker 2 (52:36):
Oh no, we're sad.
I know we all aren't touring,it's the listeners.
Man.
Hey, this is a good place tounload, though Right here on the
Try that in a Small Townpodcast, it's a good place for
you two to unload.
You still look stage ready.
What does that mean?
Speaker 1 (52:52):
unload Just your frustrations, your boredom, all
of it hey, uh, I want to uh goto this real quick because I
think this is going to be cool.
We've introduced this thing.
It's through speak pipe and,instead of people just uh
submitting their questions viainstagram or x or whatever it
(53:13):
allows them, it allows us tohear their voice asking the
question, which is kind of cool.
So we've got a few.
You guys want to see what wegot oh, hey, yeah hey, jim, what
do I do?
just play this thing in themicrophone and see if it works.
All right, let's, let's findout what, uh, this one's from.
It looks like I told them toleave their name and where
they're from.
I don't know.
If they did, we'll see whathappens hi.
Speaker 2 (53:37):
Um, my name is nick bruno and I was wondering what
is your favorite memory?
Speaker 5 (53:42):
from a recording session, if you have one.
Thank you for taking the timeto listen to my question.
Speaker 1 (53:49):
Well, nick seems very polite and I think we should
answer his question.
Tully, do you have a recordingsession moment that stands out
to you that you can tell?
That I can tell.
I do have a favorite one, but Iprobably shouldn't, yeah,
probably shouldn't, shouldn'ttell it um, what about the first
time that, uh, we cut one ofthe songs that we wrote?
Speaker 6 (54:13):
yeah for jason, I love.
I actually would go back alittle further and I was gonna
say try that in small time.
It was one of those moments butI often think about, like the
first time that we well, that wewent in to make the first
record, just because we were allsure that that would be the
(54:35):
last time that we went in, youknow.
So I remember like specificallystarting that whole record with
Amarillo Sky and we played itdown one time and walked back in
the control room and it soundedso good and I was like, wow,
this might actually work.
(54:55):
This, this sounds pretty cool.
You know what I mean.
I just remember walking inthere and then walking back into
the studio to record it again.
Speaker 1 (55:01):
I was terrified, you know, through that first record.
Well cause, we didn't know whatI mean.
I just remember walking inthere and then walking back into
the studio to record it again.
I was terrified through thatfirst record.
Speaker 6 (55:05):
Well, because we didn't know what we were doing.
If you listen to that firstrecord, which now and the way we
hear things now you can tell,with half of that record we
don't even know how to end thesongs We'll just play out, we'll
just do a vamp out of likenoodling around and it just
fades away.
You know, but it was.
It was cool though, because inthat studio we're still record
(55:29):
there today same studio,treasure isle, but that's where
we used to do all the old demosbefore we did the album too,
like back in the old days justlearning how to be a band right.
Speaker 2 (55:39):
That's an amazing thing right there, though, that
you guys are still cuttingaldine's records at the same
studio same studio, sameengineer, same players that's
amazing.
Speaker 6 (55:50):
You know how rare that is yeah, no, and it's like
it's fun to talk about itbecause we get, every time we
show up there we talk about this, but usually it's because, like
, the place is actually likefalling down.
Yeah, but we're.
But you're right, neil, it'slike it is rare to, whereas I'm
sitting in the same chair from,you know, 26, 27 years ago.
Speaker 2 (56:13):
It's amazing, you know everybody's usually looking
for a different place, adifferent sound, experiment with
a new, a new room, you know,and all that.
Right, you're right.
That's the mentality, right,you know, and all that stuff,
right, you're right.
Speaker 6 (56:22):
That's the mentality, right?
Yes, you know, everybody thinks.
I mean at home, everybodyprobably thinks that we're
sitting in this amazing-lookingbuilding A state-of-the-art
studio and this place barely has, like you know, heat and air.
You can still smell the smoke?
No, you can.
But there is a thing in thatstudio with that group of guys
on the floor with Knox in therein the control room, Pete
(56:44):
Coleman back there, Pete didBlondie and the Knack and stuff
recorded them.
Speaker 1 (56:51):
Yeah, Pat Benatar.
Speaker 6 (56:53):
It's old school, neil , you just nailed it.
A lot of that rawness of thatstudio is part of the Aldine
thing.
So it's anyway, nick, that's.
I really remember recordingthat first album like it was
yesterday really.
Let's see what this one is.
Speaker 5 (57:11):
Hey guys, I'm Carrie from Way Park, minnesota, and I
have a logistics question.
From your instruments point ofview, can you take us through a
day in their life on tour, likewho packs, transports and sets
them up?
Do they fly on a plane?
Or do they ride in the back of?
a truck from stop to stop, whotunes them and how do you decide
(57:33):
which guitar you're going touse for each song?
And lastly, what is the worstonstage hiccup that you've had
with your instrument and how didyou handle it?
And, lastly, what is the worstonstage hiccup that you've had
with your instrument and how didyou handle it?
I hope this question doesn'tstrike the wrong chord.
Speaker 3 (57:49):
Oh, very nice Very nice, nice.
Speaker 1 (57:51):
Well, that's a lot of questions.
Let me see what part do we wantto get to.
Speaker 2 (57:56):
I want to know what mishap you've had.
That's the one.
Speaker 1 (57:59):
That's part of her question that's a good one to
start.
Mishaps are really unfortunate.
Um, have you dropped a guitaron stage?
I have dropped, okay, so that'sa good one.
So there used to be a bit inthe show where I would swing my
guitar around my neck prettyimpressive kind of like zz?
I don't know.
No, was like this, but I usedto swing it around my neck and
(58:23):
you know you have what they callstrap locks on your guitar.
For people to know that itlocks the strap onto your guitar
.
Mostly when you buy a strap youjust kind of pull it over the
button.
Not that safe if you're goingto swing it.
So I did swing the guitar, itdid, the strap locks did
malfunction and the guitar wentflying.
Speaker 3 (58:44):
Ooh that could be dangerous.
It could have been dangerous.
Speaker 1 (58:49):
I could have maybe killed somebody.
You could have killed Aldine.
Speaker 2 (58:53):
Yeah, you're right, I could have been out of a job,
yeah.
Speaker 1 (58:58):
That guitar rest in peace.
So, that's a mishap totally.
Speaker 3 (59:03):
You want to talk about one, the second, the
second part two was, uh,different bases or guitars for
different songs, like I thinkthat's.
I definitely have a lotunfortunately you know we've
talked about this before.
Speaker 1 (59:14):
Like I grew up, if you have one guitar, that's
amazing, it's you.
Oh, my god, I got this guitarand you think that's my guitar.
Well, well, I guess,unfortunately, or whatever,
there's a lot of songs that havedifferent tunings.
They have different sounds, soI probably change guitars every
song.
Now I'll reintroduce the guitarthrough the set, but every song
(59:38):
is a new guitar.
I do have a tech.
Tully has a tech.
They tune the guitars, they'reresponsible for packing.
They go on a bus, just like wedo.
You know that or I should say asemi, all the gear.
They go town to town with it um, what's her name?
Speaker 2 (59:53):
that asked the question.
What's her name is carrie,carrie, yeah, carrie, you should
see them without their texts.
It's really lonely, it'sactually sad, it's actually
really pathetic.
They have a heart for them.
Speaker 6 (01:00:03):
I actually broke into a cold sweat at the Ryman when
I realized wait, where are mycords and my tuner?
That was on me.
Speaker 2 (01:00:13):
You had to tune your own bass, poor you.
Speaker 3 (01:00:16):
He's like what are these lights?
But you know what I?
Speaker 1 (01:00:21):
mean without getting too deep in the woods.
It's like I don't even know howmy guitar rig works anymore.
Like there's I have this groundcontrol thing that if I want
delay and reverb and chorus onsomething, I just press the
pedal.
I know that part, but it's likeconnected through some weird
thing and goes back to differenteffect pedals on the back and
(01:00:43):
like if something goes out, I'mlike If something goes wrong,
you'll know it, because one ofour techs will be crawling on
their knees through the dark upto the board and fiddling with
stuff.
So I don't know how it works.
Yeah, we're very thankful forall of our crew, the techs.
Believe me, we're blessed and,like these guys say, it's to the
point of ridiculous.
Speaker 6 (01:01:03):
We do have an amazing road crew though.
Yeah, I'd say one of the, Imean, I think obviously I'm
biased, but one of the best.
They're just incredible.
When you got to have them, yeah, oh well, I mean, it's
impossible.
We always walk out of thereafter the show because usually
when they're sitting up we'renot awake.
(01:01:23):
These guys are up early.
Oh, they're up at 7.
So when we go get our coffee at11, stuff's set up, yeah Right.
Speaker 1 (01:01:35):
And then after the show's done, we always walk and
it's like completely, they tearthat stuff down so quick, like
an hour yeah, you'd be amazed athow quickly they can tear down
all the lights, all the staging,all the amps, and people don't
realize this.
You know, they see, you knowhow many put you on stage five
or six, and they don't realizethere's an army of people that
(01:01:59):
work with jason aldean, thealdean army, uh, that go there
and they set up, like tully says, at 7 am, they're tearing down
at 1 am and they're sleepingthat five hours in between.
Speaker 2 (01:02:11):
I don't think they sleep five hours yeah, they
might not not that, not thoseguys sounds like my monday
morning with lana.
You guys, you guys areborderline bubble people.
Speaker 1 (01:02:24):
Are we going?
Speaker 2 (01:02:25):
back to the bubble Yep borderline, Borderline
bubble people.
Why do you say this?
I don't know Catering.
Speaker 3 (01:02:32):
Sleeping in.
There are different levels ofbubbles.
Speaker 1 (01:02:35):
They do offer vegan options at our catering as well,
they do.
Speaker 6 (01:02:40):
And you have to for food allergies.
You know what's funny, neil?
It's funny you said thatbecause we always joke about it
at our table as well they do.
And you have to for foodallergies.
Well, you know what's funny,neil?
It's funny you said thatbecause we always joke about it.
It is living in a bubble, forsure, because play the show, get
off stage about 11.30, hang outa couple hours, get back in our
bus and our bunks aboutthree-ish and we wake up and it
(01:03:03):
all happens again in a differentplace.
So all that going around us,really we are caught.
Speaker 2 (01:03:09):
I can imagine y'all's schedule coming off a tour to
right now.
Speaker 6 (01:03:13):
Yeah, it gets different.
That's where these books comein handy A battle-tested guide
to enduring relationship.
That's a post-tour book formusicians as well.
Speaker 1 (01:03:25):
You bet it is oh my gosh hey guys, we uh, we gotta
wrap this up.
But you know, I kind of teasedthis early in the year, I didn't
know if it was true.
But we do have some really bigguests uh coming on and we're
we're pumped and we're thankfulwe got some great people coming
on.
So stick with us.
You're watching on youtube.
Uh, leave us a review, ed.
(01:03:46):
You're killing the reviews.
Yep, do the uh.
Do the five stars.
Jim's waving at me for you.
Speaker 2 (01:03:51):
Don't try that at smalltowncom and get some merch
y'all.
Speaker 1 (01:03:54):
We need to talk about e-spaces we need to talk about
e-spaces real quick.
New sponsor yes you want totalk about your buddy that you
take money for I'll play golfwith him.
Speaker 2 (01:04:03):
Yeah, he owns a company, e-spaces, and we may
wind up moving our studios.
We don't know, but we're goingback and forth.
Maybe we may go back and forthit's unbelievable yeah e-spaces
they're they're, uh, they're,they're built their floors that
they have in these high risesdowntown nashville and they got
one coming over in cool Springs.
They're super nice, they'resuper innovative, they're the
(01:04:26):
technology is super up to date.
It's really cool.
And on music row right and thenone one music row there's one
on music row and and they'regoing to be expanding probably.
Speaker 1 (01:04:37):
Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:04:38):
Yeah, you know we should do.
Speaker 6 (01:04:42):
What's that?
This comes back to the RV busthing.
Oh, try that on a small towntour, podcast tour, and we go
out and we'll do it in arestaurant or local bar.
Small town People come out,take their questions.
Don't give it away too early.
Yeah, it'd be fun, though yourwish might come't give it away
too early.
Speaker 1 (01:05:01):
Yeah, it'd be fun though your wish might come true
, we'll expand later.
Speaker 3 (01:05:04):
Yeah, there's more on that to come, yeah, restaurant
bar.
Speaker 2 (01:05:08):
You never know what's coming down.
I like the teas.
Speaker 3 (01:05:11):
they're telling I like the teas.
Speaker 1 (01:05:12):
I love it.
Patriot Mobile we're thankfulfor them.
Original Glory, always, alwaysa pleasure.
We love those guys.
I got to the YouTube.
What else do we got heyInstagram?
Follow us on X man, we needsome followers guys Jump over,
get over to the X.
Speaker 5 (01:05:26):
We need some X followers.
Speaker 1 (01:05:29):
I think that's about it, right.
Yeah, what an episode Are youkidding me?
Speaker 3 (01:05:32):
That's a lot in this episode.
That is a lot.
Speaker 1 (01:05:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:05:45):
And there's a thankful for all of you, for
kayla, for thrash, for tk, andI'm the cop.
No, I don't know, I don't knowwe haven't said it on yet.
Speaker 1 (01:05:48):
We'll figure it out.
Yeah, you come all right.
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