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July 1, 2025 69 mins

n the debut episode of Trying Not To Die, Navy SEAL and discipline king Jocko Willink drops in for a wildly unpredictable conversation about Jiu jitsu, drone warfare, modern masculinity, and his deep love for Black Sabbath.

We talk about why war is now content creation, what it takes to stay calm in chaos, and how Jocko got completely starstruck meeting Tony Iommi.

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