July 8, 2025 • 27 mins
Ever wondered how we flight attendants actually plan our lives around the chaos of air travel? In this episode, we're pulling back the curtain on the mystery of our schedules. From the strategies we use (or don’t) when bidding for monthly trips, to how our contracts shape our work rules, we’re breaking it all down in a way only two seasoned crew members can. And no, we don’t just work weekdays or fly the same routes over and over again. We’re diving into why one of us crams all the hours into just a few days, while the other is constantly swapping trips for something “better.” Plus, we wrap it up with a jaw-dropping listener story.
Episode Highlights:
[0:00] Welcome aboard! Talking about schedule questions we get all the time.
[0:50] Our very different bidding strategies and why they work (or don’t).
[2:45] Drew’s high-hour strategy vs. Rich’s hunt for easy trips.
[4:24] FAA rules vs. contract differences—why every airline plays by its own rules.
[6:39] Are you a “bid right away” or “last minute” type? (Spoiler: Rich is chaos).
[10:39] The real reason Rich can’t quit flight attendant life.
[14:35] Flying 10-12 days a month sounds light, but here’s the catch.
[17:20] Canceled or delayed? The behind-the-scenes chaos you don’t see.
[20:20] Why “holiday busy” is real—but so is spring break and random weekends.
[22:17] Listener Story: The most unhinged in-flight couple we’ve ever heard of.
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Rich (00:00):
You ever wondered what your flight attendants are
(00:03):
really talking about behind thegalley curtain?
Andrew (00:06):
Welcome to Two guys on a plane. Your go to podcast for an
insider look at flight attendantlife.
Rich (00:11):
We're your hosts, rich and Drew, and we're here to tell you
what really goes on at 35,000feet.
Andrew (00:16):
So sit back, relax.
We're ready for takeoff. Hifriends. Welcome back to two
guys on a plane today. We'retalking schedules, bidding and
all of those fun things asflight attendants. One of the
most common questions that weget asked are, is this your
regular route? Do you just turnaround and go back and how
long's your day? And we're hereto answer some of those
(00:38):
questions, because it's a verycomplex answer, and we figured
if we talked about how we bid,we could answer some of those
questions for you so rich, tellme, are you happy with your bid
this month?
Rich (00:50):
I am not happy with I think she was drinking while
Yeah, I think I that's thefunny thing too. Is over time.
bidding. No, actually, never,never a good idea. Don't drink a
bit in you guys, but no. Whathappened this month is I
specifically remember is I keptsaying I was gonna do it, and I
kept having crazy days of flyingand getting busy. And it was
literally like, the day bidsclosed an hour before, and I was
(01:12):
like, I'm just gonna put in abunch of generic stuff. Like, it
should be fine. It was not itwas not fine. Never turned I
have been working on rearrangingthat bid all month long because
I made such a mess out of it.
But you know what? ThingsLike, I remember when I started
flying, like, being home washappen? Maybe some junior people
got some fun trips that I didn'tget, and it's all good. I'm
happy for them. How about you?
(01:34):
How did your schedule turn outthis month?
Andrew (01:36):
You know, I got enough of what I like or what I bid for
or what I wanted that it makesup for what I didn't get. So
overall, generally, happy, yeah,that actually sounds pretty
good, right? I'm happy, right?
All right, I think you startedanswering one of my questions
already, but I'm going to startwith, what's your bidding
strategy?
Rich (01:54):
It is a great question, considering I just shared with
you that I basically nostrategy.
Andrew (02:01):
Okay, this month you didn't but in general, like,
like, not fun for me. And itwasn't because, like, things
what is your if you weren'tdrinking, what would have been
your strategy?
Rich (02:06):
I wasn't drinking. It was just last minute. My strategy
normally is to, I try to bidbecause, you know, I'm kind of
at that weird seniority whereit's like, I can hold decent
stuff, but I can't hold amazingstuff. And so I try to bid like
lower time so that I can cherrypick nicer trips and add that
and sprinkle those in as I can.
But so that's generally kind ofmy strategy. And I love, you
(02:30):
know, I like domestic trips. Ilike easy domestic trips, and
then sprinkling in somewere bad at home or anything,
like I lived alone, but it wasinternational stuff as as time
goes on throughout the month, ifI can pick those up last minute.
But what about you? What do youwhat's your bidding strategy?
Andrew (02:45):
I am a day of the week high hour flyer. So, like my
strategy, is simply hours. Iwant to get the most amount of
hours in the least amount ofdays possible. So whatever that
looks like, good trips, badtrips, it doesn't matter. I need
the most amount of hours in theleast amount of days. And that's
my bid strategy.
Rich (03:03):
We're so opposite, which I think is so funny, because you
will do those, like, long, highcredit, awful thing, awful
thing, to get the most amount oftime in the least amount of
like, it just this job was soexciting that the thought of
days. And I'm like, Oh, thisthree day that has two legs and
only pays like, $5 I mean,absolutely. And it's kind of
crazy, because I just want easyI want to go to work and have an
(03:26):
easy time. And you're like, Idon't want to be around power
through it, yeah, long as I'mgetting paid to be there, yeah?
And then I like to stack all myflying and have, like, two weeks
off, if I can, in a month. Andyou're not really like that
either. You kind of,
Andrew (03:40):
I think it depends on what's going on in the month,
but in general, I kind of liketo do, like, I really am good
for like, three days at a time.
Yeah, if I have to do more thangoing anywhere was like, Cool.
You know, it's like, oh, that'sthree days that, you might as
well call me hangry, because I'mjust angry about it the whole
time.
Rich (03:55):
And Mom, if you're listening, our bidding is a
little chaotic, and it's notreally like any other job,
because we bid once a month forour schedules for the next
month, and it's all senioritybased. And a lot of people don't
realize that, you know, whenthey ask those questions, you
know, to us, it's like, it's,it's all seniority. So you can
(04:15):
hope that you are working thisamazing trip, you know, every
every month, but you might beworking some crappy trips if
you're on the junior end ofthings. Wouldn't you agree?
Andrew (04:24):
Yes. And the other thing, I think that people don't
so exciting. I've never been toOklahoma City, and it's like,
know about bidding or our workrules in general, because they
compare us to pilots a lot.
Pilots are like, all governed bythe far so, like, their work
rules are written by the like bythe FAA, right? They have very
hard like duty and rest rulesand all of those sort of things.
As flight attendants, most ofour work rules come from our
contracts. Yeah. So, like, weliterally all could be doing
(04:47):
something different, like, everyone of our contracts reach just
a little bit differently. Imean, really, the only thing
that the FAA like requires ishow much rest we get. But other
than that, we don't really have.
Lot of, like, work rules outsideof our contract. So all of us
Oh, really. So it's funny,because over time, I definitely
are doing something different.
So when you ask these questionsto us on an airplane, you're
going to get a different answer,because we can all do a little
(05:08):
bit different of something.
Rich (05:11):
Yeah, that's so true when it comes to, like, crew
legalities, schedulinglegalities, and layovers and
rest like, some of that ismandated by the FAA, but a lot
of it is contract. And you'reright, and we work for different
airlines, and that comes up inour conversations a lot of time,
especially when we get like,rescheduled, or things like
that, when things go wrong, andwe'll be like, and then
(05:33):
obviously this happened, and oneof us will be like, what they
did, what to you? Like, there'sno way. And it's like, my
like being home more, but I'vebeen kind of flight attendant to
contract would never allow that,and vice versa, you'll, you
know, you'll say something. Andit's like, how did that happen
to you? Where's your contract,right? And it's like, no, this
is in the contract. So it's wildhow things really do vary.
Person like airline to airline,
Andrew (05:52):
and mom, a reschedule reroute are the same thing. It
just depends on the time of daythat it happens. So if it's
before or after during, that'swhether it's a reschedule or
reroute, but they're really thesame thing.
Rich (06:02):
Wait, call me mom right now. What do you mean
Andrew (06:04):
a reschedule reroute?
They're the same thing. It justdepends on when it happens in
your day. Does it happen beforeyou check in for your channel?
Does it happen while you'redoing it? A reschedule is before
a reroute?
Rich (06:15):
But that was different. I didn't know this was wait.
where I go through spurts whereit's like, one month I'm all
Andrew (06:18):
You just learned it.
Rich (06:19):
I didn't know that either.
Andrew (06:20):
I know they're interchangeable, but yeah, no,
it depends on when in yoursequence it's happening, whether
it's a rescheduler, I have noidea who knows. We learned
something new today. Okay, rich,so when do you bid? Are you as
soon as the bids open? Bidder?
Are you a last minute bidder?
Rich (06:39):
I am definitely a last minute bitter. I try to be not
this person every month, andevery month I fail for one
reason or another, and I'malmost always bidding pretty
last minute. Sometimes I'll putsomething in a day or two early,
about red eyes, or all nightersor whatever it is. One month I'm
but yeah, I'm often a lastminute bidder.
Andrew (06:55):
Yeah, I'm not. It stresses me out far too much. I
don't know how you do it. Everymonth I watch this happen, and
it it fascinates me, because themoment bids open, I have at
least something in there, andthen I like tweak it along the
month. But you really stressedme out with your bidding
strategy.
Rich (07:10):
Well, I think that part is like, when you bid, the outcome
of this scenario just goes toshow, because you don't mess
with your schedule that much.
And when my schedule comes out,it's like, constant, like, all
month long, I am trading,dropping, swapping, like, we're
halfway through the month rightnow, and I am still working on
my schedule. Like I amall about international stuff,
(07:30):
because I want to go cooldefinitely that flight attendant
for sure. I'm always so, like,convinced that there's, like,
something better out there, likethere's going to be a better
trip. And so I'm always tryingto manipulate things a little
bit further.
Andrew (07:44):
Yeah, you definitely do not fly what you bid. I don't
even have to ask the nextquestion, because I know that
you don't fly what you bid.
Rich (07:50):
I do sometimes
Andrew (07:53):
one of the like, however many trips you were awarded, and
Rich (07:56):
usually one or two of the like, six or seven.
Andrew (07:59):
Yeah, I see your point.
Rich doesn't fly. What he bids,I definitely do, which is why
bidding is so important to me,places. One month I want to do
turns like I definitely it'swhich is why I stress over it.
Because I'm like, I cannot workmore than two legs a day. I
won't touch certain citiesdepending on whether if I'm
working more than two legs aday. I've, like, scoured the bid
packet to make sure that, like,one of those is a cleaning
station, because I'm onlycleaning the airplane so many
(08:21):
times a day. You really, Ireally put a lot of thought into
this. So I definitely bid to flywhat I'm bidding. So I bid
credit. I bid legs per day. Idon't work two legs per day. I
bid to, like, go to differentplaces. Because, I mean, we've
talked about it so many timesbefore, that's one of the joys
of this job is that you get to,like a month by month mood for
me, which, I don't know whatlike, different personalities on
(08:42):
different segments. And I liketo mix it up. I like, I really,
like a mix of, like, turns andtrips, because sometimes you
want to go home. I really, I've,I've been doing this too long. I
can't do more than like, twodays at a time
(09:16):
this is about me as a person,but this is definitely how I am.
(09:36):
I mean, I think thatsays everything about being a
flight attendant. This isexactly why bidding is fun,
right? Or different for all ofus. You know, we've taught you
(09:58):
on vacation, trips. I want.
Like, hard working, right? Hardhours, get me in and get me out
trips. And you're like, I'll gosit somewhere for 30 hours. I'm
like, I could be making 30 hourson that, on that sit or on that
layover.
Rich (10:10):
Do you ever Just enjoy having, like, a really long
layover.
Andrew (10:13):
No, I've never enjoyed a really long layover. Um, like,
18 hours is really what I'm goodfor on a layover, anything more
than that, and I'm like, well,now I'm just wasting a day being
here. And what do you do tooccupy yourself? I don't know.
This place, I make memes,although I do bid for, like,
food. And yeah, I mostly bid forfood. So if you have good food,
(10:37):
I'm, I'll, I'll stay therelonger,
Rich (10:39):
30 hours of eating. Sign me up. I'm into it.
Andrew (10:42):
I mean, have you had barbecue spaghetti in Memphis
yet? It's worth it. It's worth a30 hour layover.
Rich (10:47):
Barbecue spaghetti?
Andrew (10:48):
yeah, oh, it's so good in Memphis. It's like pulled
pork and barbecue sauce on topof spaghetti. It's the best.
Rich (10:54):
Wait, what? Yeah, how have I not heard of this?
Andrew (10:58):
I don't know, because it's phenomenal. Okay, maybe a
little bit of next time you'rein Memphis,
Rich (11:03):
this is why I could literally never leave this job,
though, is because everyschedule is different. Like, you
can be consistent and have thatnine to five type schedule,
right? Or you can be chaotic,like me and just literally be
all over the place, like, landfrom a red eye one day and then
do a turn the next day, and thensuddenly I'm in Paris. Like, I
don't, I don't like being tiedto one thing,
Andrew (11:26):
yeah, well, and that's the thing I love about it, like,
you go on family vacations. And,like, we, where were we? We went
on vacation with my family. Andthey were like, oh, did you all
take vacation to be here? And wewere like, No, we just bid the
week off. And they were like,what? And I was like, I mean, I
worked to get this, yeah, off.
Like, I spent the last two weeksworking, but I don't go back for
like, three weeks. And they'realways, it's always dumbfounding
(11:46):
to them that we have the abilityto do that.
Rich (11:49):
Yeah, they're always mind blown by that. And I'm like,
this is the best part of thejob, right? Is it's like, I'll
take a vacation whenever I wantto.
Andrew (11:56):
Yeah, and I love the people that, like, bid high
hours for like, two months andthen don't work for a month?
Yeah, I can't do it. I'm notresponsible enough to be that
person. No, I know, and I reallylove that people could do that.
Rich (12:08):
No, and this is something you've been making fun of me for
a lot lately, because I willdrop stuff so last minute, and
then at the end of the month I'mlike, Oh no, I don't have enough
hours for the month. There'snothing I can do. It is the end
of the month. Poor me. Like, sosad. And you're always like, you
knew this was coming, right?
Like, you're doing this onpurpose, yes. And I'm always
(12:29):
like, oh, what?
Andrew (12:32):
I always love when you put stuff on the trade board
just to see if it'll drop. Youknow, he does it. He does not
believe this, like, crappy tripthat he has is gonna drop. He's
like, it has a 5am check in, andit's 9pm and I was like,
someone's always gonna pick thisup. And he was like, I'll just
put it on there to see if it'lldrop. It always drop.
Rich (12:48):
It does not always drop.
You were making this upsometime,
Andrew (12:52):
literally always drops.
Rich (12:54):
Sometimes it doesn't. And those are sad, sad days for
rich. What I mean, do youYou're, you're the opposite. You
don't like dropping stuff. You,you really don't.
Andrew (13:09):
I mean, listen, things come up, life happens. I have to
drop things, I will. But no,I'm, I'm very much a bid. What
I've fly, what I bid. Typeperson, you also don't like
calling out sick, like, itactually makes you sick to call
out sick does? Yeah, it does. OrI have made myself sick because
I'm thinking about calling insick, and then I like, well, I
(13:31):
guess I'm sick now, so I have tocall out. But yeah, I don't. I'm
not saying this is good or bad.
Don't take my advice here. Butlike me personally, I like,
really refuse to do it. I don't.
I'm going to therapy.
Rich (13:45):
We're both in therapy, guys, we know we're working on
some things. I love that,though, because I am the
opposite. I'm like, Oh, I justdrank water and it went down the
wrong pipe, which means I'mcoughing, which means I'm ill,
which means I'm not going to goto work tomorrow, right? I will
find any excuse to be sick andcall out.
Andrew (14:06):
I know you will. I wish I had more of that in me, but I
don't at all. I can't do it. Iblame my mother. So actually,
that's probably not her fault.
To blame my father.
Rich (14:17):
How many days a week? Do you feel like you like to fly?
Because people are alwaysbaffled by this, and we kind of
just talked about this a littlebit with, like, taking vacations
in a regular month and thingslike that. But people always
think we we work like set days,and we really don't. How many
days a week do you like to fly?
Andrew (14:35):
I'm not a day of the week. Flyer, I am a day of the
month. Flyer, I really refuse tofly more than, like, 10 to 12
days a month. However they,like, get into that month is
beautiful for my schedule. Like,we have family things, or we
want to go on a trip, or we needto do something, or we have,
like, a lot of things going on,like, I'll jam them up five or
six in a row for legalitypurposes. And if you don't know,
(14:58):
we're only allowed to work. Sixdays in a row without having
rest period. So six is our max.
So I'll do the max sometimes ifI absolutely need to, but for
the most part, I like to stay atthe three to four range. It gets
exhausting after that, unless Ineed something going on. But I
try not to put five more than 12a month. We can't. I can't do
it.
Rich (15:21):
I get that. I feel like people hear these numbers
sometimes, and they're like, youwork 10 days a month, or 12 or
even 15. It doesn't sound likethat many, yeah. And it's like
people don't realize like, whenwe work, sometimes we work 12
13, hour days, 16 18, sometimes.
And they're right in, like,regular operations, it can go up
to, who knows how long. And sopeople don't realize, like, that
(15:43):
physical toll on your body is alot, and it takes a lot out of
you. Like we always joke whenwe're done with trips, and not
just Andrew and I, but likeeverybody, every flight
attendant is like this, youneed, like, a full recovery day,
like a day, to literally justcrash, and you sleep for like,
12 hours, and your body's dead,and you get up and you move on
(16:03):
with your life. But this is whyI've started trying to be more
like you with my flying where,like, I'll do a few days, take a
few days, because I used to,like, back everything up as much
as I could,
Andrew (16:14):
but then you'd come home and die for three days.
Rich (16:16):
I would be dead for like, a full week. And it's, it's not
Andrew (16:20):
But, and I don't think people realize how much, like
fun, actually.
the pressurization, the up anddown really affects you. So
like, two legs a day is onething, but four legs a day is
more exhausting than that,because your body is constantly
changing the whole time. And ifyou're a frequent traveler, we
know you fly as much as we do,we do, but we're, we're up and
(16:41):
down a lot more, and it's, itreally does get physically
exhausting having your bodychange that much. Yeah, and
pressurization,
Rich (16:48):
if you are someone that flies a lot like, think about
how tired you are, even fromjust like, sitting on a plane
for X amount of time and beingjet lagged from changing time
zones. Like, multiply that by 10and you have how exhausting your
flight crews are, right?
Andrew (17:02):
I think this is always fascinating. I think we can pull
our audience for questions juston scheduling one and have that
sort of conversation, because Ithink we know the questions you
want to ask us. We're happy toanswer them, but it's hard to
draw them from memory.
Sometimes,
Rich (17:18):
yeah, absolutely.
Andrew (17:20):
What happens if you are canceled or delayed?
Rich (17:23):
I mean, at that point, it's God's will. I feel like
when we're delayed or canceled,it's just anything could happen.
I mean, and again, this is backto what you said earlier about
airline contracts, becausethings really do vary airline to
airline, like some of us, can bereassigned or rerouted easier
(17:46):
than others. And so I feel likewhen that does happen, well,
actually, one of my favoritethings about this, when it does
happen is the crew immediately,like without hesitation, starts
planning in their head,
Andrew (17:58):
doing awful math.
Rich (17:59):
Well, awful math. But also, like the outcomes, like,
it's like a choose your ownadventure. Like, okay, but what?
What if we're delayed enoughthat we get taken off that last
leg and we actually get toovernight in this place instead
of this place? Or, what if weget back to base late enough
that I won't have enough restand I don't have to work my trip
(18:20):
tomorrow. Like, because we alldo it, we all start dreaming,
scheming, planning, and, like,probably nine times out of 10,
it's that's not what happens. Isnot what happens, right? But
every now and then you, like, goillegal for a trip, and you're
paid, protected, or whatever thecase may be, and you're like,
hallelujah. And I'm notreligious, but I've mentioned
(18:41):
God twice now, so thanks God.
Andrew (18:42):
Well, and I think everyone thinks cancelations are
fun for us, but I don't thinkthey realize the amount of time
that goes into getting ussomewhere right, like we don't
just cancel and step off theplane, or like we're free, no,
we have to wait to see ifthere's other flying available
for us, or if they need us to gosomewhere else. If we do cancel
(19:02):
and have to stay in a stationthat we're not normally at, we
have to wait for hotels to beset up and ground time or ground
transportation to be set up.
This isn't like we walk off theplane and into an overnight like
sometimes we sit around forlike, eight hours, six hours
waiting for all of these thingsto like happen, because we are
in a city that, like, hotels aresold out, so they have to, like,
(19:24):
go a couple hours away to findhis hotels and right, figure out
how to get us to these hotels.
It's not, we're not, we're notrooting for a cancelation. I
Rich (19:32):
know, especially when it's like a major event too, like, if
it's just one flight that's gotmaintenance and you cancel, or
whatever the case may be, it'snot necessarily that crazy, but
when this is, like, weather orsomething that's affecting the
entire airline, or just aviationin general, it can turn into,
like you said, if, like, 678,hours, right? I'm just waiting
to figure out what you'resupposed to do. Because, like
(19:54):
you said, it's not like, we canjust be like, Okay, I'm done.
I'm leaving, like, if you'reespecially if you're not home,
right? Not that simple, right?
Andrew (20:02):
All of that, yeah, yeah.
And I think the general publicthinks we just walk off an
airplane and into our swimsuits,right? Like this is so fun.
Rich (20:09):
It's not fun for anyone, whish that's what happened,
right? So what's the what's thebusiest time of year for you at
your airline as a flightattendant?
Andrew (20:20):
I think in general, just holiday seasons, right? Like,
yeah, I think the November toJanuary during, like,
Thanksgiving and Christmas isalways chaos. I think that
spring break is always a superbusy time for all air travel,
yeah, and random, randomweekends are just bad. I'm like,
(20:40):
how, how do we all pick today togo get on an airplane?
Rich (20:44):
It's true. I do feel like previously, schedules, like
flying was more predictable,like there were lulls at certain
times of the year. And thesedays, I feel like, you know,
props to you people, buteverybody's taking their PTO
now, yeah, and like those randomweekends, like people are going
places, which is great, but it'slike, there's no lull. Like it
used to be like, okay, Januaryis going to be slow, or planes
(21:06):
are probably going to be empty.
Oh, October is going to beslower, planes are probably
going to be empty. And I feellike that does not happen.
Andrew (21:12):
They're not and there's not, like, a route that you can
bid either anymore. That's like,this is one of, like, right
offshoot routes that, like,isn't really always full. Like,
people are getting out andexploring and traveling these
days.
Rich (21:23):
They're going everywhere, yeah, which makes bidding very
hard, because you don't knowwhat to do. It's the truth, and
it's always funny too, because Ifeel like, you know, we
normally, like people normallythink, Oh, Christmas and
Thanksgiving is crazy. And it'slike, actually, all summer long,
like, summer is probably themost hectic time of year,
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because it's just like, it'sconstant, it's non stop, like,
everything's full, everything'soversold, everybody's going on
vacation. Yeah, it's wild.
Andrew (21:55):
It is, all right, I think that's all for today. To
give you a little glimpse intohow we bid and what some of our
work rules are. I'm sure wedidn't go deep enough, and I'm
sure we can have another one ofthese conversations soon. But we
hope you learned somethingtoday, or if you're listening
and you are a flight attendant,tell us about your crazy bidding
stories, because we like to findout how our friends bid
Rich (22:17):
Absolutely. And before we go, we want to do a little
Join us next time for morehumor, heart and stories from
segment we like to call, whatwould two guys do, W.W.T.G.D. So
this is a segment where we'regonna have you guys submit your
stories of your crazy, wildadventures up in the skies to us
at two guys on aplane.com/podcast, and then we
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are going to read them. Sotoday's story we have from Sarah
from Seattle, Washington. Shewas flying from Seattle to
Fresno. She says, during myfirst trash walk of the flight,
I had a couple hand me emptydoubles and asked for refills.
the beverage cart. This episodewas brought to you by staff
They were already veryintoxicated, so I cut them off.
I told the other flightattendant, she said their card
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was declined anyways. So we didanother trash walkthrough, and
they handed me another round ofempty doubles. I asked the
flight attendant. She saidthey've given her a different
credit card. So she served themagain. So during cruise, I was
sitting in the back and noticedthat they were now making out
aggressively. This was during, Iknow I can't even get through
this one. This was during COVID.
So I went up to ask them to keeptheir masks on, and he was fully
exposed with his hand on thefront of her romper. He'd also
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thrown up on her chest. And theywere continuing to make out. I
told them this was all wildlytraveler, the number one non rev
app if you travel on standbyinappropriate and that they
needed to stop immediately. Theydidn't stop. People were ringing
their call bells like crazybecause they were being so
brazen. I had to move kids awayfrom them. He was trying to make
a FaceTime phone call in flight.
It was all just an absolutemess. I had law enforcement meet
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the plane and haul them off aseveryone was leaving the
passengers sitting two seatsbehind them, handed me his card
to tell me he was with the FAAand would be writing a report on
Andrew (23:56):
Of course he didnt.
our way off the plane. We foundout that they had just met each
other at the airport bar beforethe flight, and he didn't even
have a confirmed seat.
Rich (24:01):
First of all, Sarah, I'm sorry for what you've been
tickets and are looking to makeyour journey easy and stress
through. This is traumatizingjust reading this, so I hope you
got to take a day or two offafter flying, because this is
insane. What? What would youhave done in this?
Andrew (24:20):
Just throw them at them.
Oh, he threw up on her.
Rich (24:26):
I know this. This makes me think of his videos you see of
like cats on Instagram whenthey're doing something bad and
like the owner sprays. Like, weshould start doing it to
passengers and be like, No,wrong spray.
Andrew (24:39):
I mean, I don't, I don't even want to get into like, how
free. Check out the stafftraveler app in the Apple App
you could have done it differentor better, because I don't. I
don't think there is, like, allyou can do. You have limited
amount of seats to move peopleto. What do you do? Get a ABP or
able bodied passenger, mom, um,and like, and move them. Yeah.
(24:59):
Move, move the separate the twoof them. But if they had just
met, didn't even know if he wasgoing on the airplane, and were
already this heavily involvedwith each other, you weren't
going to keep them apart. Somoving other people away does
seem the smarter option.
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There's really just so much literally, there's the
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Visit staff traveler.com/twovomiting, there's the hand on
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We're ready for takeoff. Hifriends. Welcome back to two
guys on a plane today. We'retalking schedules, bidding and
all of those fun things asflight attendants. One of the
most common questions that weget asked are, is this your
regular route? Do you just turnaround and go back and how
long's your day? And we're hereto answer some of those
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questions, because it's a verycomplex answer, and we figured
if we talked about how we bid,we could answer some of those
questions for you so rich, tellme, are you happy with your bid
this month?
Rich (00:50):
I am not happy with I think she was drinking while
Yeah, I think I that's thefunny thing too. Is over time.
bidding. No, actually, never,never a good idea. Don't drink a
bit in you guys, but no. Whathappened this month is I
specifically remember is I keptsaying I was gonna do it, and I
kept having crazy days of flyingand getting busy. And it was
literally like, the day bidsclosed an hour before, and I was
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like, I'm just gonna put in abunch of generic stuff. Like, it
should be fine. It was not itwas not fine. Never turned I
have been working on rearrangingthat bid all month long because
I made such a mess out of it.
But you know what? ThingsLike, I remember when I started
flying, like, being home washappen? Maybe some junior people
got some fun trips that I didn'tget, and it's all good. I'm
happy for them. How about you?
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How did your schedule turn outthis month?
Andrew (01:36):
You know, I got enough of what I like or what I bid for
or what I wanted that it makesup for what I didn't get. So
overall, generally, happy, yeah,that actually sounds pretty
good, right? I'm happy, right?
All right, I think you startedanswering one of my questions
already, but I'm going to startwith, what's your bidding
strategy?
Rich (01:54):
It is a great question, considering I just shared with
you that I basically nostrategy.
Andrew (02:01):
Okay, this month you didn't but in general, like,
like, not fun for me. And itwasn't because, like, things
what is your if you weren'tdrinking, what would have been
your strategy?
Rich (02:06):
I wasn't drinking. It was just last minute. My strategy
normally is to, I try to bidbecause, you know, I'm kind of
at that weird seniority whereit's like, I can hold decent
stuff, but I can't hold amazingstuff. And so I try to bid like
lower time so that I can cherrypick nicer trips and add that
and sprinkle those in as I can.
But so that's generally kind ofmy strategy. And I love, you
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know, I like domestic trips. Ilike easy domestic trips, and
then sprinkling in somewere bad at home or anything,
like I lived alone, but it wasinternational stuff as as time
goes on throughout the month, ifI can pick those up last minute.
But what about you? What do youwhat's your bidding strategy?
Andrew (02:45):
I am a day of the week high hour flyer. So, like my
strategy, is simply hours. Iwant to get the most amount of
hours in the least amount ofdays possible. So whatever that
looks like, good trips, badtrips, it doesn't matter. I need
the most amount of hours in theleast amount of days. And that's
my bid strategy.
Rich (03:03):
We're so opposite, which I think is so funny, because you
will do those, like, long, highcredit, awful thing, awful
thing, to get the most amount oftime in the least amount of
like, it just this job was soexciting that the thought of
days. And I'm like, Oh, thisthree day that has two legs and
only pays like, $5 I mean,absolutely. And it's kind of
crazy, because I just want easyI want to go to work and have an
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easy time. And you're like, Idon't want to be around power
through it, yeah, long as I'mgetting paid to be there, yeah?
And then I like to stack all myflying and have, like, two weeks
off, if I can, in a month. Andyou're not really like that
either. You kind of,
Andrew (03:40):
I think it depends on what's going on in the month,
but in general, I kind of liketo do, like, I really am good
for like, three days at a time.
Yeah, if I have to do more thangoing anywhere was like, Cool.
You know, it's like, oh, that'sthree days that, you might as
well call me hangry, because I'mjust angry about it the whole
time.
Rich (03:55):
And Mom, if you're listening, our bidding is a
little chaotic, and it's notreally like any other job,
because we bid once a month forour schedules for the next
month, and it's all senioritybased. And a lot of people don't
realize that, you know, whenthey ask those questions, you
know, to us, it's like, it's,it's all seniority. So you can
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hope that you are working thisamazing trip, you know, every
every month, but you might beworking some crappy trips if
you're on the junior end ofthings. Wouldn't you agree?
Andrew (04:24):
Yes. And the other thing, I think that people don't
so exciting. I've never been toOklahoma City, and it's like,
know about bidding or our workrules in general, because they
compare us to pilots a lot.
Pilots are like, all governed bythe far so, like, their work
rules are written by the like bythe FAA, right? They have very
hard like duty and rest rulesand all of those sort of things.
As flight attendants, most ofour work rules come from our
contracts. Yeah. So, like, weliterally all could be doing
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something different, like, everyone of our contracts reach just
a little bit differently. Imean, really, the only thing
that the FAA like requires ishow much rest we get. But other
than that, we don't really have.
Lot of, like, work rules outsideof our contract. So all of us
Oh, really. So it's funny,because over time, I definitely
are doing something different.
So when you ask these questionsto us on an airplane, you're
going to get a different answer,because we can all do a little
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bit different of something.
Rich (05:11):
Yeah, that's so true when it comes to, like, crew
legalities, schedulinglegalities, and layovers and
rest like, some of that ismandated by the FAA, but a lot
of it is contract. And you'reright, and we work for different
airlines, and that comes up inour conversations a lot of time,
especially when we get like,rescheduled, or things like
that, when things go wrong, andwe'll be like, and then
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obviously this happened, and oneof us will be like, what they
did, what to you? Like, there'sno way. And it's like, my
like being home more, but I'vebeen kind of flight attendant to
contract would never allow that,and vice versa, you'll, you
know, you'll say something. Andit's like, how did that happen
to you? Where's your contract,right? And it's like, no, this
is in the contract. So it's wildhow things really do vary.
Person like airline to airline,
Andrew (05:52):
and mom, a reschedule reroute are the same thing. It
just depends on the time of daythat it happens. So if it's
before or after during, that'swhether it's a reschedule or
reroute, but they're really thesame thing.
Rich (06:02):
Wait, call me mom right now. What do you mean
Andrew (06:04):
a reschedule reroute?
They're the same thing. It justdepends on when it happens in
your day. Does it happen beforeyou check in for your channel?
Does it happen while you'redoing it? A reschedule is before
a reroute?
Rich (06:15):
But that was different. I didn't know this was wait.
where I go through spurts whereit's like, one month I'm all
Andrew (06:18):
You just learned it.
Rich (06:19):
I didn't know that either.
Andrew (06:20):
I know they're interchangeable, but yeah, no,
it depends on when in yoursequence it's happening, whether
it's a rescheduler, I have noidea who knows. We learned
something new today. Okay, rich,so when do you bid? Are you as
soon as the bids open? Bidder?
Are you a last minute bidder?
Rich (06:39):
I am definitely a last minute bitter. I try to be not
this person every month, andevery month I fail for one
reason or another, and I'malmost always bidding pretty
last minute. Sometimes I'll putsomething in a day or two early,
about red eyes, or all nightersor whatever it is. One month I'm
but yeah, I'm often a lastminute bidder.
Andrew (06:55):
Yeah, I'm not. It stresses me out far too much. I
don't know how you do it. Everymonth I watch this happen, and
it it fascinates me, because themoment bids open, I have at
least something in there, andthen I like tweak it along the
month. But you really stressedme out with your bidding
strategy.
Rich (07:10):
Well, I think that part is like, when you bid, the outcome
of this scenario just goes toshow, because you don't mess
with your schedule that much.
And when my schedule comes out,it's like, constant, like, all
month long, I am trading,dropping, swapping, like, we're
halfway through the month rightnow, and I am still working on
my schedule. Like I amall about international stuff,
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because I want to go cooldefinitely that flight attendant
for sure. I'm always so, like,convinced that there's, like,
something better out there, likethere's going to be a better
trip. And so I'm always tryingto manipulate things a little
bit further.
Andrew (07:44):
Yeah, you definitely do not fly what you bid. I don't
even have to ask the nextquestion, because I know that
you don't fly what you bid.
Rich (07:50):
I do sometimes
Andrew (07:53):
one of the like, however many trips you were awarded, and
Rich (07:56):
usually one or two of the like, six or seven.
Andrew (07:59):
Yeah, I see your point.
Rich doesn't fly. What he bids,I definitely do, which is why
bidding is so important to me,places. One month I want to do
turns like I definitely it'swhich is why I stress over it.
Because I'm like, I cannot workmore than two legs a day. I
won't touch certain citiesdepending on whether if I'm
working more than two legs aday. I've, like, scoured the bid
packet to make sure that, like,one of those is a cleaning
station, because I'm onlycleaning the airplane so many
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times a day. You really, Ireally put a lot of thought into
this. So I definitely bid to flywhat I'm bidding. So I bid
credit. I bid legs per day. Idon't work two legs per day. I
bid to, like, go to differentplaces. Because, I mean, we've
talked about it so many timesbefore, that's one of the joys
of this job is that you get to,like a month by month mood for
me, which, I don't know whatlike, different personalities on
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different segments. And I liketo mix it up. I like, I really,
like a mix of, like, turns andtrips, because sometimes you
want to go home. I really, I've,I've been doing this too long. I
can't do more than like, twodays at a time
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this is about me as a person,but this is definitely how I am.
(09:36):
I mean, I think thatsays everything about being a
flight attendant. This isexactly why bidding is fun,
right? Or different for all ofus. You know, we've taught you
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on vacation, trips. I want.
Like, hard working, right? Hardhours, get me in and get me out
trips. And you're like, I'll gosit somewhere for 30 hours. I'm
like, I could be making 30 hourson that, on that sit or on that
layover.
Rich (10:10):
Do you ever Just enjoy having, like, a really long
layover.
Andrew (10:13):
No, I've never enjoyed a really long layover. Um, like,
18 hours is really what I'm goodfor on a layover, anything more
than that, and I'm like, well,now I'm just wasting a day being
here. And what do you do tooccupy yourself? I don't know.
This place, I make memes,although I do bid for, like,
food. And yeah, I mostly bid forfood. So if you have good food,
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I'm, I'll, I'll stay therelonger,
Rich (10:39):
30 hours of eating. Sign me up. I'm into it.
Andrew (10:42):
I mean, have you had barbecue spaghetti in Memphis
yet? It's worth it. It's worth a30 hour layover.
Rich (10:47):
Barbecue spaghetti?
Andrew (10:48):
yeah, oh, it's so good in Memphis. It's like pulled
pork and barbecue sauce on topof spaghetti. It's the best.
Rich (10:54):
Wait, what? Yeah, how have I not heard of this?
Andrew (10:58):
I don't know, because it's phenomenal. Okay, maybe a
little bit of next time you'rein Memphis,
Rich (11:03):
this is why I could literally never leave this job,
though, is because everyschedule is different. Like, you
can be consistent and have thatnine to five type schedule,
right? Or you can be chaotic,like me and just literally be
all over the place, like, landfrom a red eye one day and then
do a turn the next day, and thensuddenly I'm in Paris. Like, I
don't, I don't like being tiedto one thing,
Andrew (11:26):
yeah, well, and that's the thing I love about it, like,
you go on family vacations. And,like, we, where were we? We went
on vacation with my family. Andthey were like, oh, did you all
take vacation to be here? And wewere like, No, we just bid the
week off. And they were like,what? And I was like, I mean, I
worked to get this, yeah, off.
Like, I spent the last two weeksworking, but I don't go back for
like, three weeks. And they'realways, it's always dumbfounding
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to them that we have the abilityto do that.
Rich (11:49):
Yeah, they're always mind blown by that. And I'm like,
this is the best part of thejob, right? Is it's like, I'll
take a vacation whenever I wantto.
Andrew (11:56):
Yeah, and I love the people that, like, bid high
hours for like, two months andthen don't work for a month?
Yeah, I can't do it. I'm notresponsible enough to be that
person. No, I know, and I reallylove that people could do that.
Rich (12:08):
No, and this is something you've been making fun of me for
a lot lately, because I willdrop stuff so last minute, and
then at the end of the month I'mlike, Oh no, I don't have enough
hours for the month. There'snothing I can do. It is the end
of the month. Poor me. Like, sosad. And you're always like, you
knew this was coming, right?
Like, you're doing this onpurpose, yes. And I'm always
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like, oh, what?
Andrew (12:32):
I always love when you put stuff on the trade board
just to see if it'll drop. Youknow, he does it. He does not
believe this, like, crappy tripthat he has is gonna drop. He's
like, it has a 5am check in, andit's 9pm and I was like,
someone's always gonna pick thisup. And he was like, I'll just
put it on there to see if it'lldrop. It always drop.
Rich (12:48):
It does not always drop.
You were making this upsometime,
Andrew (12:52):
literally always drops.
Rich (12:54):
Sometimes it doesn't. And those are sad, sad days for
rich. What I mean, do youYou're, you're the opposite. You
don't like dropping stuff. You,you really don't.
Andrew (13:09):
I mean, listen, things come up, life happens. I have to
drop things, I will. But no,I'm, I'm very much a bid. What
I've fly, what I bid. Typeperson, you also don't like
calling out sick, like, itactually makes you sick to call
out sick does? Yeah, it does. OrI have made myself sick because
I'm thinking about calling insick, and then I like, well, I
(13:31):
guess I'm sick now, so I have tocall out. But yeah, I don't. I'm
not saying this is good or bad.
Don't take my advice here. Butlike me personally, I like,
really refuse to do it. I don't.
I'm going to therapy.
Rich (13:45):
We're both in therapy, guys, we know we're working on
some things. I love that,though, because I am the
opposite. I'm like, Oh, I justdrank water and it went down the
wrong pipe, which means I'mcoughing, which means I'm ill,
which means I'm not going to goto work tomorrow, right? I will
find any excuse to be sick andcall out.
Andrew (14:06):
I know you will. I wish I had more of that in me, but I
don't at all. I can't do it. Iblame my mother. So actually,
that's probably not her fault.
To blame my father.
Rich (14:17):
How many days a week? Do you feel like you like to fly?
Because people are alwaysbaffled by this, and we kind of
just talked about this a littlebit with, like, taking vacations
in a regular month and thingslike that. But people always
think we we work like set days,and we really don't. How many
days a week do you like to fly?
Andrew (14:35):
I'm not a day of the week. Flyer, I am a day of the
month. Flyer, I really refuse tofly more than, like, 10 to 12
days a month. However they,like, get into that month is
beautiful for my schedule. Like,we have family things, or we
want to go on a trip, or we needto do something, or we have,
like, a lot of things going on,like, I'll jam them up five or
six in a row for legalitypurposes. And if you don't know,
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we're only allowed to work. Sixdays in a row without having
rest period. So six is our max.
So I'll do the max sometimes ifI absolutely need to, but for
the most part, I like to stay atthe three to four range. It gets
exhausting after that, unless Ineed something going on. But I
try not to put five more than 12a month. We can't. I can't do
it.
Rich (15:21):
I get that. I feel like people hear these numbers
sometimes, and they're like, youwork 10 days a month, or 12 or
even 15. It doesn't sound likethat many, yeah. And it's like
people don't realize like, whenwe work, sometimes we work 12
13, hour days, 16 18, sometimes.
And they're right in, like,regular operations, it can go up
to, who knows how long. And sopeople don't realize, like, that
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physical toll on your body is alot, and it takes a lot out of
you. Like we always joke whenwe're done with trips, and not
just Andrew and I, but likeeverybody, every flight
attendant is like this, youneed, like, a full recovery day,
like a day, to literally justcrash, and you sleep for like,
12 hours, and your body's dead,and you get up and you move on
(16:03):
with your life. But this is whyI've started trying to be more
like you with my flying where,like, I'll do a few days, take a
few days, because I used to,like, back everything up as much
as I could,
Andrew (16:14):
but then you'd come home and die for three days.
Rich (16:16):
I would be dead for like, a full week. And it's, it's not
Andrew (16:20):
But, and I don't think people realize how much, like
fun, actually.
the pressurization, the up anddown really affects you. So
like, two legs a day is onething, but four legs a day is
more exhausting than that,because your body is constantly
changing the whole time. And ifyou're a frequent traveler, we
know you fly as much as we do,we do, but we're, we're up and
(16:41):
down a lot more, and it's, itreally does get physically
exhausting having your bodychange that much. Yeah, and
pressurization,
Rich (16:48):
if you are someone that flies a lot like, think about
how tired you are, even fromjust like, sitting on a plane
for X amount of time and beingjet lagged from changing time
zones. Like, multiply that by 10and you have how exhausting your
flight crews are, right?
Andrew (17:02):
I think this is always fascinating. I think we can pull
our audience for questions juston scheduling one and have that
sort of conversation, because Ithink we know the questions you
want to ask us. We're happy toanswer them, but it's hard to
draw them from memory.
Sometimes,
Rich (17:18):
yeah, absolutely.
Andrew (17:20):
What happens if you are canceled or delayed?
Rich (17:23):
I mean, at that point, it's God's will. I feel like
when we're delayed or canceled,it's just anything could happen.
I mean, and again, this is backto what you said earlier about
airline contracts, becausethings really do vary airline to
airline, like some of us, can bereassigned or rerouted easier
(17:46):
than others. And so I feel likewhen that does happen, well,
actually, one of my favoritethings about this, when it does
happen is the crew immediately,like without hesitation, starts
planning in their head,
Andrew (17:58):
doing awful math.
Rich (17:59):
Well, awful math. But also, like the outcomes, like,
it's like a choose your ownadventure. Like, okay, but what?
What if we're delayed enoughthat we get taken off that last
leg and we actually get toovernight in this place instead
of this place? Or, what if weget back to base late enough
that I won't have enough restand I don't have to work my trip
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tomorrow. Like, because we alldo it, we all start dreaming,
scheming, planning, and, like,probably nine times out of 10,
it's that's not what happens. Isnot what happens, right? But
every now and then you, like, goillegal for a trip, and you're
paid, protected, or whatever thecase may be, and you're like,
hallelujah. And I'm notreligious, but I've mentioned
(18:41):
God twice now, so thanks God.
Andrew (18:42):
Well, and I think everyone thinks cancelations are
fun for us, but I don't thinkthey realize the amount of time
that goes into getting ussomewhere right, like we don't
just cancel and step off theplane, or like we're free, no,
we have to wait to see ifthere's other flying available
for us, or if they need us to gosomewhere else. If we do cancel
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and have to stay in a stationthat we're not normally at, we
have to wait for hotels to beset up and ground time or ground
transportation to be set up.
This isn't like we walk off theplane and into an overnight like
sometimes we sit around forlike, eight hours, six hours
waiting for all of these thingsto like happen, because we are
in a city that, like, hotels aresold out, so they have to, like,
(19:24):
go a couple hours away to findhis hotels and right, figure out
how to get us to these hotels.
It's not, we're not, we're notrooting for a cancelation. I
Rich (19:32):
know, especially when it's like a major event too, like, if
it's just one flight that's gotmaintenance and you cancel, or
whatever the case may be, it'snot necessarily that crazy, but
when this is, like, weather orsomething that's affecting the
entire airline, or just aviationin general, it can turn into,
like you said, if, like, 678,hours, right? I'm just waiting
to figure out what you'resupposed to do. Because, like
(19:54):
you said, it's not like, we canjust be like, Okay, I'm done.
I'm leaving, like, if you'reespecially if you're not home,
right? Not that simple, right?
Andrew (20:02):
All of that, yeah, yeah.
And I think the general publicthinks we just walk off an
airplane and into our swimsuits,right? Like this is so fun.
Rich (20:09):
It's not fun for anyone, whish that's what happened,
right? So what's the what's thebusiest time of year for you at
your airline as a flightattendant?
Andrew (20:20):
I think in general, just holiday seasons, right? Like,
yeah, I think the November toJanuary during, like,
Thanksgiving and Christmas isalways chaos. I think that
spring break is always a superbusy time for all air travel,
yeah, and random, randomweekends are just bad. I'm like,
(20:40):
how, how do we all pick today togo get on an airplane?
Rich (20:44):
It's true. I do feel like previously, schedules, like
flying was more predictable,like there were lulls at certain
times of the year. And thesedays, I feel like, you know,
props to you people, buteverybody's taking their PTO
now, yeah, and like those randomweekends, like people are going
places, which is great, but it'slike, there's no lull. Like it
used to be like, okay, Januaryis going to be slow, or planes
(21:06):
are probably going to be empty.
Oh, October is going to beslower, planes are probably
going to be empty. And I feellike that does not happen.
Andrew (21:12):
They're not and there's not, like, a route that you can
bid either anymore. That's like,this is one of, like, right
offshoot routes that, like,isn't really always full. Like,
people are getting out andexploring and traveling these
days.
Rich (21:23):
They're going everywhere, yeah, which makes bidding very
hard, because you don't knowwhat to do. It's the truth, and
it's always funny too, because Ifeel like, you know, we
normally, like people normallythink, Oh, Christmas and
Thanksgiving is crazy. And it'slike, actually, all summer long,
like, summer is probably themost hectic time of year,
(21:46):
because it's just like, it'sconstant, it's non stop, like,
everything's full, everything'soversold, everybody's going on
vacation. Yeah, it's wild.
Andrew (21:55):
It is, all right, I think that's all for today. To
give you a little glimpse intohow we bid and what some of our
work rules are. I'm sure wedidn't go deep enough, and I'm
sure we can have another one ofthese conversations soon. But we
hope you learned somethingtoday, or if you're listening
and you are a flight attendant,tell us about your crazy bidding
stories, because we like to findout how our friends bid
Rich (22:17):
Absolutely. And before we go, we want to do a little
Join us next time for morehumor, heart and stories from
segment we like to call, whatwould two guys do, W.W.T.G.D. So
this is a segment where we'regonna have you guys submit your
stories of your crazy, wildadventures up in the skies to us
at two guys on aplane.com/podcast, and then we
(22:39):
are going to read them. Sotoday's story we have from Sarah
from Seattle, Washington. Shewas flying from Seattle to
Fresno. She says, during myfirst trash walk of the flight,
I had a couple hand me emptydoubles and asked for refills.
the beverage cart. This episodewas brought to you by staff
They were already veryintoxicated, so I cut them off.
I told the other flightattendant, she said their card
(23:02):
was declined anyways. So we didanother trash walkthrough, and
they handed me another round ofempty doubles. I asked the
flight attendant. She saidthey've given her a different
credit card. So she served themagain. So during cruise, I was
sitting in the back and noticedthat they were now making out
aggressively. This was during, Iknow I can't even get through
this one. This was during COVID.
So I went up to ask them to keeptheir masks on, and he was fully
exposed with his hand on thefront of her romper. He'd also
(23:23):
thrown up on her chest. And theywere continuing to make out. I
told them this was all wildlytraveler, the number one non rev
app if you travel on standbyinappropriate and that they
needed to stop immediately. Theydidn't stop. People were ringing
their call bells like crazybecause they were being so
brazen. I had to move kids awayfrom them. He was trying to make
a FaceTime phone call in flight.
It was all just an absolutemess. I had law enforcement meet
(23:47):
the plane and haul them off aseveryone was leaving the
passengers sitting two seatsbehind them, handed me his card
to tell me he was with the FAAand would be writing a report on
Andrew (23:56):
Of course he didnt.
our way off the plane. We foundout that they had just met each
other at the airport bar beforethe flight, and he didn't even
have a confirmed seat.
Rich (24:01):
First of all, Sarah, I'm sorry for what you've been
tickets and are looking to makeyour journey easy and stress
through. This is traumatizingjust reading this, so I hope you
got to take a day or two offafter flying, because this is
insane. What? What would youhave done in this?
Andrew (24:20):
Just throw them at them.
Oh, he threw up on her.
Rich (24:26):
I know this. This makes me think of his videos you see of
like cats on Instagram whenthey're doing something bad and
like the owner sprays. Like, weshould start doing it to
passengers and be like, No,wrong spray.
Andrew (24:39):
I mean, I don't, I don't even want to get into like, how
free. Check out the stafftraveler app in the Apple App
you could have done it differentor better, because I don't. I
don't think there is, like, allyou can do. You have limited
amount of seats to move peopleto. What do you do? Get a ABP or
able bodied passenger, mom, um,and like, and move them. Yeah.
(24:59):
Move, move the separate the twoof them. But if they had just
met, didn't even know if he wasgoing on the airplane, and were
already this heavily involvedwith each other, you weren't
going to keep them apart. Somoving other people away does
seem the smarter option.
Rich (25:14):
There's really just so much literally, there's the
Store or Google Play Store.
Visit staff traveler.com/twovomiting, there's the hand on
the pants. There's having tomove children away from those
(25:38):
disaster let me keep just sayingI'm sorry. Yeah, sorry that this
was your day. Those kidsguys to learn more and sign up
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your stories about that's great.
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