October 14, 2025 • 37 mins
Jet lag—it’s that relentless travel companion we never asked for but always seem to bring along. In this episode, we’re unpacking the reality of jet lag from the flight attendant perspective: what works, what totally doesn’t, and the hilarious and horrifying travel stories we’ve collected along the way. Whether you’re someone who swears by strategic napping or you’re just trying to make it to the Airbnb without puking into a canal (hi, Amsterdam), this one’s for you.
We’re also diving into TikTok travel trends, influencer airport fails, and the magic of “cart chemistry” on long-haul flights. Plus, we’re dishing out the best jet lag tips we’ve got—from hydration hacks to buffer day brilliance—and, of course, sharing one outrageous galley gossip tale involving a mystery mouse. Grab your melatonin (or maybe don’t), and buckle up for a brutally honest, laugh-out-loud episode that proves no one is immune to the jet lag struggle.
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Episode Highlights:
[0:21] – That burning passenger question: “How do you deal with jet lag?”
[1:25] – Drew gets randomly selected at TSA and has thoughts on viral TikTok trends (spoiler: they’re not cute)
[4:24] – Airport train TikTok chaos: SEPTA isn’t here for your influencer moment
[5:48] – Meet "cart chemistry": when your inflight service partner is your soul twin
[7:28] – Amsterdam anniversary trip: jet lag + weak stomach = canal drama
[11:55] – Portugal panic: no sleep + no public bathrooms = street meltdown
[15:12] – Rich’s Mrs. Doubtfire nap: the Christmas show he totally slept through
[16:29] – The food trick that saved us: bringing your own sandwich
[18:56] – Shoutout to StaffTraveler: how we survive the non-rev chaos
[22:07] – Why grace and buffer days save our relationship (and our sanity)
[25:50] – Sleep aids? Not for us. We’ll take strategic naps and caffeine instead
[28:46] – Move your body? Sure—but not in the aisle, please
[30:34] – Bali belly defeated: probiotics, prep time, and a 24-hour nap win
[31:15] – Best advice ever? Always plan a buffer day
[31:55] – Galley Gossip: a passenger tries to smuggle a mouse onto a plane. Yes, really.
[34:49] – Big thanks to our Patreon senior mamas—your support means the world
[36:13] – Sponsor shoutout: StaffTraveler—because non-rev needs a little help sometimes
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Rich (00:02):
Ever wondered what your flight attendants are really
talking about behind the galleycurtain?
Andrew (00:06):
Welcome to Two guys on a plane. Your go to podcast for an
insider look at flight attendantlife.
Rich (00:11):
We're your hosts, rich and Drew, and we're here to tell you
what really goes on at 35,000feet.
Unknown (00:16):
So sit back, relax.
We're ready for takeoff.
Rich (00:21):
So passengers always ask us about jet lag. They think, as
flight attendants, that we'resome sort of experts on the
matter, and so they're alwayssaying, how do you deal with it?
How do you overcome it? To behonest, not to spoil the whole
episode, we're not that great atit. Wouldn't you agree? Andrew,
oh, I'm awful at it. Yeah, Ithink it really depends too, if
we're on like, a work trip or apersonal trip, but jet lag is
(00:43):
not it's not an easy thing toovercome, and while there are
tips and tricks, and we're gonnaget into that a little bit later
in the episode, it's not alwaysthe easiest thing, and it
definitely varies person toperson on whether or not you're
you're able to do it and you'reable to be good at it, but it's
definitely hard, because I feellike there are days where we
completely crash, for lack of abetter
Andrew (01:05):
word, yeah, and then other days you nail it, and
you're like, oh, I can do I canrepeat these exact same steps,
Rich (01:10):
and it doesn't, it doesn't work, before we get into our
tips and tricks on jet lag andhow we overcome it or don't
overcome it. Andrew, what's beengoing on lately with flying.
Anything you want to rant about,always.
Andrew (01:25):
I always have a rant in me. No, flying has been decent.
I have. We've had a lot ofvacations recently, so I would
stack a lot of my days. So Ican't say that I've been my best
Rich (01:38):
at so much harder. Like, it's so worth it in the end to
have all that time. Oh, forsure, but it's so much harder to
stack your days. Oh, you'relike,
Andrew (01:45):
Yeah, die six day block.
One day off, six day block. It'sbrutal. I haven't been my best,
but I've survived, no, but I gotrandom day TSA the other day
after I, like, scanned him forKCM, and I got the dreaded
random so I, like, March my wayaround. And there's this girl
there. There's this new Tiktoktrend where you like, take the
pan and you like, set all youritems out. Really cute. So she
(02:08):
like, emptied her bags. She had,like, her laptop and her iPad
and her camera and her lipstickand her blush and like,
everything arranged just so ittook her, like, 45 minutes, and
I was like, please get out of myway. Please just move, I kind of
do the stick trend out of thearea. Yeah, right. Like, do or,
like, set your pan up out of theway so that you can then get in
(02:30):
line with it and, like, push itdown the rollers. But she was
like, there was no way to getaround her. Finally, TSA opened
up a second lane so that, like,the line of people behind her
could go around because she likeand, you know, it's bad because
TSA don't want to help nobody,they don't. And as an
influencer, like, I understandgetting the, yeah, influencer, I
understand getting the perfectright? I understand, like,
(02:52):
setting up and getting theperfect shot. But like, that's
not the time or place for it.
Please stop this trend. Whoeverstarted it? I I beg of you,
please stop it. Just cut it out.
It's not cute. It's not a goodlook, actually. Now that we're
hungry, are you saying you didit? Are you telling me,
Rich (03:11):
but now that we're on the topics influencer trends, I'm
like, What idiot would want todo this? So that's why we'll
never be, like, realinfluencers, because I can't be
bothered to do half the shit
Andrew (03:24):
that people so I love my life too much to, like, stop it
and take pictures. Oh,absolutely.
Rich (03:29):
But the No, it made me think of this other Tiktok trend
that people are doing, and Ioverheard these girls talking
about it on the train to theairport the other day. It's that
trend where, like, people are,like, trying to see if they can,
like, make it to a flight inlike, a certain amount of time,
like, they're trying to do,like, an hour or whatever. Oh,
yeah, do you know I'm talkingabout? I haven't, but I can. I
can do it. Well, I know we can.
We have a lot of, like, securitythings that we can get. But
(03:53):
like, the whole thing is, like,they're trying to see how fast
they can get to the airport orwhatever. And these girls are
taking this video on the train,and they were like, it's 1045
and our flight said 1130 andwe're gonna see if we can make
it. And I was just laughing,because, first of all, we're on
SEPTA, and if you live inPhilly, you're probably not
gonna make it if you're ridingup doing it. And second of all,
(04:13):
if it was 1145 you were still asolid 20 minutes from there,
right? And we were like, just atPenn Medicine, which is still
like, a 20 minute ride to theairport, and
Andrew (04:25):
please fund SEPTA continue, right? And
Rich (04:29):
so, like I was thinking, like doing the math. I was like,
Okay, so 20 minutes to get tothe airport, if SEPTA doesn't
randomly decide to stop working,and then that gives them like,
I'm not good at math, but like,25 minutes to get to get to
their flight, when they usuallyclose the door. 1015, minutes
early, these girls are introuble. But it was funny,
nonetheless. But yeah, theseTiktok trends, they have to go
(04:51):
because some of these peoplestop believing. Everything you
see on Tiktok, it makes me feelsuch a boomer. I mean, I know
Andrew (04:57):
we've talked about this, but this is like the next.
Pillow full of underwear for me,this is on the same line of
like, the neck pillow full ofunderwear for me. Like, stop
doing this. It's not funny. Youlook stupid, and then you're
gonna yell at a gate agentbecause you made this decision.
You're gonna be like, I missedmy flight. It's not literally
(05:18):
your fault. You did it. I'mreally mad at them for it,
Rich (05:22):
understandable. But honestly, other other than
laughing at Tiktok people flyinghas been going really well
lately. Actually, I wanted totalk about this because I had
just had a trip. We wereworking, I think, some turn
somewhere. And you know whenyou're working one of those days
and you're on the cart withsomebody and you just like,
click, like, you're, oh yeah, insync, you operate the same way,
(05:44):
like, down to, like, wherethings go, like, how
Andrew (05:48):
you you don't have to say anything, like, the way your
eyeballs move, and they're like,here's the Diet Coke you asked.
Or
Rich (05:54):
literally just, there's, there's just magic. And so we
were finishing the service, andthis kid, he's only been flying
a couple years. He was so niceand easy to work with, and we're
laughing in the galley. And Iwas like, I just have to say,
like, not to be weird, butreally, like working the car
with you. And he's like, I wasthinking the same, I'm so glad
(06:14):
you said it. And he's like, youand I, we have really good cart
chemistry. And I was like, cartchemistry, I love this. I'm
coining this. This is a realthing. I'm absolutely stealing.
I can't remember his name rightnow, and that makes me mad, but
I'm totally blanking. But I waslike, cart chemistry, it's so
true, because there's somepeople you work with and you're
(06:34):
like, What are you even doingover there on the car?
Andrew (06:37):
Click the green button and they click the red one at
the same time. Never in sync.
You're
Rich (06:41):
like, right? They're moving the car. Like, where are
you going and not done yet?
Like, there's no communication.
It's a mess. But he and I waslike, we're just colliding
through the cabin on thiscarton. It was
Andrew (06:51):
perfect. Gosh, that makes work so much easier. Oh,
my God. I love when you havegood chemistry like that,
because it makes work so mucheasier.
Rich (06:58):
Seattle turn too. So it's like an 11 hour day. You were
doing a long day that. And I waslike, if I had a bad crew for
this, I would have murderedsomebody. So, cart
Andrew (07:07):
chemistry, cart chemistry. You heard her here
first, important to everyone,yeah.
Rich (07:12):
But back to jet lag. Oh, my God. How do you do it? How do
we do it? Not personally, notWell, no, no. And can you think
of any times for sure had Yeah,jet lag gone wrong or right?
Andrew (07:28):
It usually goes wrong for me. I think you know this
well. I don't think I absolutelyknow you know this. But for the
rest of everyone that doesn'tknow me personally, I I don't
have a strong stomach, becausethat's correct, very, it's very
weak. She's sensitive, very, wefight a lot, a lot, a lot, a
(07:49):
lot. So I Oh, you I know mystomach and
Rich (07:53):
I, two of us, no, I was like, We don't fight over that.
I'm not that mean. But no,
Andrew (07:57):
my stomach and I, we fight a lot. So I think that's
my biggest struggle, because Ihave, like, some sort of
illness. I feel like trying tofigure out, like, food and sleep
with my stomach, to keep thatlike, as weak as possible,
right, without being too weakthat. But do you remember that
time we went to I'm telling waytoo much information about my
(08:19):
personal Amsterdam. We went toAmsterdam. Yes, we were going
for our anniversary. I thought Ihad mastered it. I was like,
Okay, I'll eat dinner at thistime. I'll get this much sleep.
By the time we get on the plane,we'll go have a cup of coffee.
Our Airbnb will be ready by thistime. Sorry, we're not be like,
ready to go and like, be able toenjoy the day. So we get to the
(08:41):
airport, the flights delayed,which means my meal is delayed,
so like my plan is already shotto shit. We get on the flight.
We are seated next to this man.
Was a window seat that got upevery 25 minutes. So like we
were middle and aisle. He wasthe window seat. He got up every
20 minutes, so there was nosleep to be had on this it was a
full flight. We were lucky to beon it, so we're not complaining,
(09:03):
but like, Craig was up every 20minutes, so like zero sleep was
had on the flight. And then weget to Amsterdam. It took us,
like, absorbent amount of timeto get through customs, because
everybody wanted to be inAmsterdam that day. Yeah, we
finally get to be going nothinglike, literally nothing went
(09:25):
right? We finally get to ourAirbnb at like, four in the
afternoon, after having been upall night and like wandering the
city. Want, yes, with bags intow, like we're sitting in
cafes, like, just bags in thecorner, whatever. And I thought
I was doing really good. So wefinally get to the Airbnb, we
like, throw our bags down. I waswe rented a
Rich (09:47):
boat house, yes, and I was fumbling because I couldn't find
the Airbnb, like, key codeaccess stuff. So we're standing
on, like, the back of thishouseboat on the little patio,
and I'm fine. Fumbling, andyou're, you're like, I think I
need to go to the bathroom, andI'm, like, searching for this
key code, like I'm going as fastas I can.
Andrew (10:07):
Yeah, Rich was doing everything. And I get on my
hands and knees on the back deckand just start hurling into the
canal, because we can't even getinto the Airbnb. I'm just so
sorry. I'm hurling into a canal,and then we spend from like, the
whole rest of the day. For me isdone, because my stomach is so
(10:28):
weak I cannot recover from this.
I'm like, in and out of thebathroom, laying on a couch Rich
is finally like, do you want togo to dinner? And I
Rich (10:35):
was like, for dinner for why he looks like he knows, like
old Victorian and ladies andthose paintings, or she's, yeah,
exactly like laying out on thecouch, pale as hell. That was
the that was night one inAmsterdam firm.
Andrew (10:50):
But you know what's great about Amsterdam is they're
known for their French fries.
And, like, everyone brings youfrench fries. So we did go to
dinner, and like my weak assstomach, just had French fries
for dinner, which was satnicely, perfect. It was, it was
a wonderful meal. But I justremember finally getting this
houseboat. It's beautiful, bythe way, that's in a stunning
canal in this littleneighborhood. And I'm like,
(11:11):
Whoa. It was awful. It was theworst. So good at it.
Rich (11:16):
So funny though. I mean, those canals have seen it. I
mean, Amsterdam is a Party City,but they probably just aren't
used to seeing it at threeo'clock. To seeing it at three
o'clock in the afternoon, butthey've seen it. They've seen
it.
Andrew (11:26):
I'm sure they had. I still just feel bad, but this
happens to me everywhere, likewe went to that one time, and I
thought I had done all the rightthings. Rich was working a trip
to Portugal, and I, like, cameout of security and was like,
how many seats? And I jumped onthe flight with him, and we
ended up in Portugal. And he'slike, okay, you've never been on
an overnight with me. So wehave, like, 24 hours. We've got
(11:47):
to, like, hit the groundrunning, go, go, go, go. And I
was like, but I could really usea nap first. And he was like,
No, we don't have time for that,right? I was like, and
Rich (11:55):
this is earlier on, maybe in our relationship, so we
weren't, I didn't know about thestomach issues quite as much.
Andrew (12:03):
I knew we were going to be regretful of this decision.
Rich did not know we were goingto be regretful of this
decision. And if you don'ttravel a lot, I'm still pretty
new to a lot of it. Somecountries, they don't have
public restrooms, unless you payfor them, and you have to have
money, and then you're like,standing in the street being
like, help someone. Help me. Ineed a euro.
Rich (12:26):
There's nothing worse than having to pee and being like, I
need to find money first. Andthose like, little, oh, sure,
but I was throwing up like I wasgonna throw all that too. But, I
mean, you know, for those thatmight not be needing to vomit,
but the people that work thosebathrooms too, they're not
forgiving about that. They'relike, Nope, you don't have the
money. You're not coming in,
Andrew (12:47):
correct? It was awful.
It was the but we finally gotsome food, and like, settled
down and like, I was fine, butlike, I don't. Man, I some we
landed in Paris, and I thought Ihad food poisoning from the
flight before, and it wasbecause my weak stomach didn't
get enough sleep on the flightover. I'm telling you, this
happens to me all the time. It'sawful.
Rich (13:07):
Well, you're getting better. We're finding ways to
cope. We're working through it.
Don't
Unknown (13:11):
feel too Hannah Safety Day,
Rich (13:15):
but honestly, it's good for both of us, because I think
I'm nailing jet lag most of thetime. I said, think, I think I
am often and I'm used to likehitting around, running and
doing whatever like I found waysto cope on layovers and things
like that. But you do find goingforward exactly, it's always
(13:35):
coming home for me. And Iremember we were, I think I was
working a trip back from whoknows where, somewhere in
Europe, and we made plans thatnight. I think, I think we made
plans, and then I pickedsomething up, thinking, no big
deal. We land early tickets to ashow for Christmas. Yeah, yeah.
So I picked up the trip, and Iwas like, it'll be fine. We'll
(13:58):
be back early, and then we'regonna go see a show. It was,
like, a Christmas present orwhatever, and we were gonna go
see Mrs. Doubtfire when it cameto Philly. And I'm thinking,
okay, it's fine. I can, like,land nap and then go and it's
gonna be fine. But flight endedup being late, as flights do,
and we had to go straight out tothe date as soon as I got home.
(14:19):
So I get dressed and, like, makemyself a drink. I'm, like,
having coffee and drinking,like, thinking I'm just pepping
myself up. I'm ready to rally.
I'm ready to rally. We go to,you know, dinner. We have
whatever. We're all good.
Everything's good. I'm sittingdown for the show. We're so
excited about seeing Mrs.
Doubtfire, because Andrew is,like, one of his favorite
movies. He loves Robin Williams.
And we're sitting there, and Idon't know few numbers. Do you
(14:44):
know how rich is Doubtfire? Afew, few songs in, I was out. I
was out like a light, and Iremember intermission and being
like, Oh, I'm i. Am loving thisshow. And Andrew's like, really,
and are you? This isn't like menot loving musicals. I love
(15:06):
musicals. But I just was sotired, and really thought I
could rally and power through.
And it turns out I'm not so goodat that.
Andrew (15:13):
Yeah, it was funny, but you can't call somebody out for
sleeping like that, though,because then they just get mad
at you. They're like, No, I'mfine.
Rich (15:21):
Oh, I mean, I admitted it.
You did I was, I definitelyadmitted it. It was also pretty
obvious. I think everyone aroundus was like a CR, right? But
yeah, so what are some ways thatyou have learned to cope with
jet lag after all these wildstories of ours? What? What are
some things that actually workfor you so
Andrew (15:40):
we now bring our own food, like we'll go get Yes, you
can't, not that airplanes won'tfeed you, but you can't trust
that, like one it's enough foryou, or that it'll be timed
appropriately for Rick my body.
So instead of just having, likechips and things, we'll go to,
like a deli and grab a sandwichand have a sandwich in our bag
so that if I start feeling likeI need food, or start getting
(16:03):
nauseous, I'll be able to eat.
You know, they say sleep. Ipersonally believe that you just
have to power through and, like,figure out how to, like, adjust
for the most part. When I'mflying, I personally don't leave
my own time zone. Like, yeah, ifI'm out working, I don't adjust.
Like, if I'm tired and we'redone working, I go to sleep. It
(16:26):
could be two in the afternoon,it could be 10pm like,
Rich (16:29):
right? Because when you're working, it's like, you're never
there long enough for it tomatter correct. So it's critical
that you stay right, keep yourbody on local time, like, home
time, because it messes
Andrew (16:40):
you up, correct, and then you're gonna be home, like,
two days later. I've got to getback into your own routine. So
if I'm working, I don't adjust.
I just stay on my own time zone.
If I am on vacation, I try to,like, just power through, just
stay awake until, like, it'ssleep time there, and that way
(17:01):
you, like, crash out for like,the appropriate eight hours. So
you can, like, wake up in themorning and keep going. What
about you? I, for
Rich (17:10):
me, it kind of depends what direction I'm going. Like,
I do a lot of Europe, and I feellike, when I'm in Europe, I if I
power nap, like, it depends toowhen you land Airbnb or hotel
situation, am I able to go takea nap somewhere? So usually I
just end up forcing myself tostay awake, because the odds are
you're gonna have to anyway, butthat it can be hard because,
(17:31):
like, that first day ends upbeing kind of a wash, because
you're you find yourself like,out and about somewhere, and
you're forcing yourself to stayawake, and you're like, Okay, we
have to go somewhere else and dosomething else, but it can't be
like too, you know, inactive,because we'll fall asleep
somewhere in a bench. So thatfirst day ends up being a
struggle. So usually I just tryto immediately acclimate to
(17:53):
local time, because I feel likethat is what works best in like
for the remainder of the trip,and then drinking water. I know
it's so cliche, but like,Staying hydrated is really
helpful. And then obviously I'mchugging coffee all day long,
trying to, like, keep myselfcaffeinated and wired. But I
struggle so much with the water,because I do not like the taste
(18:14):
of water. So hard for me, youguys, I try so hard. You can do
it. I have faith in you,
Andrew (18:20):
I know, but I think I'm allergic to it. You know how
some people like are allergic tocilantro and it tastes like
soap. I think I'm allergic towater. I think it tastes like
soap. I don't
Rich (18:29):
really love it. I don't think that's a thing. I'm pretty
sure it's a thing. I don't thinkyou could be allergic to water,
can you I mean, actually, haveno idea. So this is not a
scientific podcast. Maybe youjust took
Unknown (18:41):
my joke and made it something serious, and it really
wasn't.
Rich (18:44):
Sorry, my bad. I don't know if that's the thing.
Andrew (18:47):
It's not I was making a good joke. But yes, water is
important, even if you don'tlike it, if it tastes like soap,
you still have to, you stillhave to use it.
Rich (18:56):
Yeah, but I mean, the biggest thing about jet lag for
me personally, like, it reallydepends on, like, how we're
getting home or how we'regetting to and from places.
Like, the good thing aboutflying and being a flight
attendant is the flightbenefits. But the sucky thing
about that is it's the so whenit comes to, like, planning to
(19:17):
overcome jet lag, like,sometimes things just don't go
according to plan. Like,sometimes when we're non
revving, it's like, you thinkyou're going to take this fight
here, and you don't, and thenyou're immediately scrambling.
And thank God for staff travelerfor that reason, because I like,
there's nothing worse than beingjet lagged. You land in a city,
you think your connection isgoing to be somewhere, and now
(19:38):
you're tired. You need a nap,you need to eat, and you also
need to figure out
Andrew (19:42):
how you're getting when we missed our connection, and we
literally, we didn't haveanother plan. It was totally
staff traveler who saved us, whobecause there was another flight
15 hours later, but we stillmade it.
Rich (19:56):
Yeah, because we thought, we thought, like, oh, we have
three hours to connect in thiscity. Me, we'll be fine. We were
not fine. We were not and wedid. We were like wandering the
Doha airport, scatter brained,tired, trying to figure out how
to how to go, where we weregoing. And staff traveler came
in handy, and we figured out,but yeah, our next connection
(20:17):
was, like, 16 hours later, butstaff traveler, thank God.
Andrew (20:21):
Yes, I love them. Not only do they give you loads but
they also really help withroots. Because, like, you just,
you get in a position like that,and you don't know what airlines
fly where all the time, and youcan, like, put in your route,
and you can figure out who toask loads of, yeah, because you
don't even know who to ask loadsof with, I mean, without them, I
(20:41):
wouldn't know half the time. And
Rich (20:43):
you're, you're right, like, I use their app, even just
for the search feature, half thetime, to figure out, map,
mapping out where we're going,like, we're going to Egypt, and,
you know, we're mapping thatout, and we're trying to figure
out where we're going to andfrom and going to Croatia, like,
we did the same thing.
Andrew (20:59):
The the mapping out feature absolutely saved us
because, you know, you're tryingto look through your company's
Ed fares or whatever to try tofigure out how route but you
don't know who to look for.
Yeah, exactly. I mean, Croatianshould Croatian air should have
been the first look
Rich (21:13):
it should have. Yeah, Croatian air and Croatia came in
handy.
Unknown (21:16):
Should have been our first look, but it wasn't. But
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is literally a lifesaver for usand so many reasons. But doing
that while jet lagged still astruggle, it is still a
struggle. How do you feel likeyou how do we manage, how do we
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manage our life with jet lag?
Andrew (23:08):
You know, I think we do the best that we can. I think it
really helps that we both traveland we understand each other and
each other's schedules a lot. Ifeel like we give each other a
lot of grace in that we're tiredor our brains aren't working
right, because we've justfinished like, a international
trip or a long set of days, andobviously we were jet lagged. So
(23:30):
I think, like, relationshipwise, I think it's just grace
and understanding is really whatis most important between us.
But like, I don't I do. I wasgonna say I don't know about
you, but I absolutely know aboutyou. I need, like, a full day of
like nothing Ness after likeanything more than two, two days
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of work, two
Rich (23:51):
days I need. I need a day off after one. But
Andrew (23:55):
no, I know you mean if you give me, like, 346, days
like that, first day off that Ihave. Do not put anything on my
calendar. Do not scheduleanything for me. I am I just
need to, like, veg out and like,my social batteries drained. My
physical battery is drained.
Like, I just need to sit thereand do nothing. We
Rich (24:16):
do this a lot too. Like, where we'll make plans like, oh,
one of us lands it this time,and then we'll go out later and
do this. And it's like, wealways think that sounds like a
good idea, and we almost alwaysregret it, because one of us is
just like, dead to the worldalways.
Andrew (24:30):
I'll tell you what my Achilles heel is, though, it's
not so much coming in from work,yeah, it's before work, because
I feel like I make plans, like,the day before I'm about to
start a trip, and I'm like, ohmy god, I can go. Have so sorry,
friends. I have so much I canhave so much fun. But then my
reports are always so early inthe morning that I feel like I
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need to be in bed by like, 6pmso like, anything after 5pm the
day before I go to work, I'mlike, okay, but I need to go to
bed. I need to go to bed. Like,20 minutes ago. I'm like,
counting the hours that I stillhave remaining to sleep, I never
achieve it. I don't know whythis is a stressor for me, but
it is such a stressor for me.
And I feel like the first day ofmy trip, the first night before
I go to work, leads to most ofmy jet lag, yeah, because I
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don't sleep well ever. But wehad fun. Oh, we're going to
Rich (25:24):
Sarah and Vinny that we tomorrow. Yeah, we always have
fun with we always have fun.
Work does not come in the way ofour friendship. Ever. It does
not Yeah, I think, I thinkyou're right, though. I think
our perspective with each other,and both understanding it and
the job that we have reallymakes a difference. Because it's
like, okay, I understand whenyou come home from work, you're
going to be in this mood, withthis level of energy, with this
(25:47):
much brain space and capacity todo whatever. And I feel like we
are getting good at giving eachother grace in those moments
where it's like, okay, you'recoming in from a trip. I gotta
give you, like, an hour. Or to,like, decompress or unwind or
whatever, before I start askingquestions and whatever. That
sounds bad, like I'minterrogating him when he comes
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home. No,
Andrew (26:09):
but I feel like we both know that. Like, sometimes you
come home and you, like, don'twant to talk about work, and so,
like, we don't. And then thereare other times when, like, you
need to get your day out of you,like you'd need to vent about
it. So, like, I mean, that'swhere it's a fine line. Because,
I mean, I'm the say, I feel likeI'm 100% the same way. Sometimes
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I need to, like, just diarrheaat all out. And sometimes I'm
like, I don't want, I don't needto tell you what happened today.
Yeah, so true. I worked. I wason an airplane. That was my day.
How do you feel about sleepaids? I know, like a lot of
people, when they're talkingabout jet lag, recommend sleep
aids and things. How do you feelabout those?
Rich (26:51):
I've never been a fan like melatonin and things like that.
I know a lot of flightattendants use, although I
recently found out a lot ofinternational carriers can't use
any of that whatsoever. Yeah,but I've never, they've always
made me feel groggy and weird,like I still have trouble
falling asleep, and then when Iwake up, I'm a mess. So I'm
like, Was that really worth itin the beginning? So I've never
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been a big fan of it. What aboutyou?
Andrew (27:14):
Yeah, I'm not really either. I mean, NyQuil, if I'm
feeling under the weather,that's about all that I'll take,
or single or something likethat,
Rich (27:22):
but because NyQuil when you're sick, like, knocks you
out gloriously, but in terms ofbeing absolutely
Andrew (27:28):
needed healthy. But, yeah, no, for like, I'm not a
big sleep aid person. I reallyjust power through until I
finally knock out and thenfigure out how to adjust myself.
But I'm not, I'm not a fan.
Yeah,
Rich (27:43):
I'm the same way. I was Googling earlier, like, what are
tips to for jet lag that peopledo? And that was one of them
that's on there. Other ones,stick to local time. We talked
about that one, strategicnapping we've talked about that
one, but that is airlinedependent, it seems. Yeah.
Andrew (28:00):
I mean, I am a big strategic Napper. I fully
believe in it, like, I thinkthat's really how you make it
work, right? But also yourflight has to be on time and
your hotel has to be ready foryou to check in. Like, strategic
napping is not so strategic.
Yeah, you're on the struggleboat, right? And that's how I
end up searching Portugal for aeuro.
Rich (28:26):
Another one was move your body. And this one's funny,
because I think they're sayingit in the way of, like, you
should exercise to, like, wakeyour body up. I'm only doing the
exercise to stay awake. Like, ifI stop moving when I'm this
tired and jet lagged, I will beasleep. I'll be asleep standing
up. I'll be asleep on a bus.
I'll be asleep on a bus bench.
I'll be asleep on a sidewalk,I'll be asleep in a bar. Like it
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does not matter. I will beasleep.
Andrew (28:50):
This one is good. I mean, I understand it, but what
irritates me is that I canpicture the passengers who read
this note and think that moveyour body means to, like, stand
in the aisle when look my eyesalready twitching. I'm trying to
keep my eye from twitching.
Friends are the people who like,stand up when you're doing the
meal service and like, are doingyoga in the aisle because, like,
(29:12):
my body needs to move. Orthey're like, the ones in the
galley doing galley yoga. Likethey read this and thought, Oh,
I know. I'll do galley yogaevery 22 minutes. I didn't say
do it on the plane. I didn'teither. But you know that? You
know the people who read thisand take it that way, please,
please sit down. Don't move yourbody on the plane.
Rich (29:32):
I mean, I get it on long flights, but people really do.
And this is a whole tangent onits own, but people really do
get up on like, a one hourflight and they're like, Oh, I
just have to stretch. And I'mlike, are you okay that you
can't sit down for 30 minuteswithout getting up? Like,
Andrew (29:47):
and obviously we know it's not true. Sit down,
Rich (29:51):
get sunlight. I mean, that one I agree with, stay hydrated,
adjust early. I'm never gonna dothat, like, days before. Start
adjusting to local time.
Andrew (30:00):
I know the only thing that I try to not jet lag, but I
try to adjust my stomach likedays before. Anytime we travel
now, I start taking probioticsand things like days before.
That's been a game change. Theweakest stomach ever we go to
Bali. Everyone around us isgetting like, Bali belly, and
I'm like, Oh, I startedprobiotic in three days. I'm
(30:23):
like, brushing my teeth withtheir water. And everyone's
like, aren't you scared? And I'mlike, No, I'm fine. Everyone
Rich (30:27):
said they're going to Bali too. They're like, you're gonna
get really sick. You're gonnaget everybody gets it. It's Bali
belly like, and both of us werefine. You were taking the
probiotic. And I think I have astomach of steel. I don't
actually know what's wrong withme, but I don't get ill from
things like that.
Andrew (30:41):
Speaking of Bali, this is the one time where I think we
both mastered and failed jet lagall at the same time. We went in
a day before our trip wassupposed to start. No two days.
We went in two full days beforeour trip was supposed to start.
We rented this beautiful Airbnbwith like this outdoor living
space, and. This pool, and thenit had this outdoor shower we
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were going to enjoy the shit outof this Airbnb. We get there, we
jump into the pool because we'relike, hot from, like, waiting,
and it looks refreshing. We jumpinto the pool. We lay in the sun
for like, two hours. And I saylay in the sun because we both
fell asleep on this, like,sleeper bench that we had, and
we were like, Okay, let's moveinside and go to take a nap. We
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woke up a solid 24 hours later.
We lost a full day, yeah? And wewoke up at like, 10am and we're
like, yeah, I guess it's good.
We had two days.
Rich (31:35):
Yeah, we slept so much so, honestly, so worth it if you're
going to Asia from the States.
Plan a buffer Safety Day,because it's a buffer day to
your buffer day for just puresleep. It's, it's genius, highly
recommend. But, yeah, that waspretty much it for the Google
tips. I mean, it was all prettystandard, straightforward stuff
that we do. I feel like
Andrew (31:56):
you have to know your body and how you adjust to
things and so, like all of thesetips and tricks are great, yeah,
but they're not going to workfor you individually, like not
all of them are going to work.
So, you know, I obviously needsleep and food to be able to
master jet lag. But I
Rich (32:15):
think the biggest, best tip takeaway from all of this is
buffer time, oh, like planning,like padding your travels so
that you don't screw yourself.
Like, don't plan on, you know,landing and hitting the ground
running. Don't plan on doingwhatever, like, have extra time
built in so that you don'tcompletely ruin your vacation by
being completely jet lagged andmessed up,
Andrew (32:38):
yeah, particularly, if you're taking a cruise stop
planning to land 20 minutesbefore your cruise. I know, oh
my
Rich (32:45):
god, the people that are like and the cruise leaves it
too, and now I didn't make itbecause of you.
Andrew (32:52):
Yeah, a whole buffer day. Please. Plan a buffer day
Rich (32:56):
before we go. Let's do a quick round of galley gossip. We
have another story from one ofour listeners. Galley gossip is
when we check in and we sharestories from our listeners about
crazy things that have happenedon a flight, because people are
always asking, What is thecraziest thing that's ever
happened to you on a flight? Sowhether you're a passenger,
pilot, flight attendant, gateagent, whoever, we want to hear
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your stories. So go to two guyson a plane, comm slash podcast,
submit your stories to us, andwe'll read them right here on
the show. You can remainanonymous if you want, but you
don't have to use a fake name.
That's fine, too, as long as thestory is real. So this one is
from Amanda. She was going fromBoston to San Francisco. The
gate agent came to the back ofthe airplane and says, We can't
(33:38):
leave yet. TSA just called andsaid they just realized the guy
went through security with amouse in his pocket. Oh, Lord,
we all so
Andrew (33:47):
many jokes to make right now. Sorry.
Rich (33:51):
Anyways, back to the story. We all looked at each
other like, what? So she findsout which passenger and goes up
to him, asks him if it's true.
He says, No, it's not in mypocket. It's in a box in my
backpack. Again. We're all like,what the fuck she takes him off?
He's like, Well, if I give youthe mouse, can I still go to San
Francisco? No man, you hit amouse in your pocket when you
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went through security. You can'tbe on this flight. I just really
need to know if he found it inthe airport in the first place,
or if he brought it from homeand was like, Yeah, bringing it
across the country with me todayseems like a great idea.
Andrew (34:25):
I it was in a box. It had to have come from home.
Like, it doesn't make right? Thestory doesn't make sense, yeah,
why were you carrying a boxhoping to catch a mouse in an
airport?
Rich (34:35):
I don't even really know what to think about this story.
Why were you bringing the mousewith you? Where? Like, what was
the purpose of bringing themouse like? What? Also, a mouse
can ground an airplane, if it'sloose on an airplane, like, they
can shoot through wiring. Theycan screw up the communication
electronic systems. Like my someplanes Not, not an idea, not a
(34:57):
good idea.
Andrew (34:57):
I like your story, but I need you to be nosier in real
life, I have follow upquestions, and I feel like they
should have been your follow upquestions,
Rich (35:07):
more details. If we can get a part two, Amanda,
Andrew (35:12):
that would be great.
Yeah. Did it come from home?
What was he going to do with itonce he got to San Francisco?
Was this a pet? Was this just arandom animal, right? Does he
have a snake? Was he gonna feedit like what is happening?
Amanda did not ask enough follow
Rich (35:25):
up, so many questions. So for those of you that are going
to submit your story to us, wewant details. We want all the
details, so many details,
Unknown (35:34):
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Rich (35:35):
because we're gonna have questions. I always have
questions. We'll keep sending usthose stories. We love reading
them, and we hope you likelistening to them as much as we
like reading them.
Andrew (35:44):
But a mouse, I still don't understand. Why do you
have a mouse? Questions?
Rich (35:50):
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Rich (00:21):
So passengers always ask us about jet lag. They think, as
flight attendants, that we'resome sort of experts on the
matter, and so they're alwayssaying, how do you deal with it?
How do you overcome it? To behonest, not to spoil the whole
episode, we're not that great atit. Wouldn't you agree? Andrew,
oh, I'm awful at it. Yeah, Ithink it really depends too, if
we're on like, a work trip or apersonal trip, but jet lag is
(00:43):
not it's not an easy thing toovercome, and while there are
tips and tricks, and we're gonnaget into that a little bit later
in the episode, it's not alwaysthe easiest thing, and it
definitely varies person toperson on whether or not you're
you're able to do it and you'reable to be good at it, but it's
definitely hard, because I feellike there are days where we
completely crash, for lack of abetter
Andrew (01:05):
word, yeah, and then other days you nail it, and
you're like, oh, I can do I canrepeat these exact same steps,
Rich (01:10):
and it doesn't, it doesn't work, before we get into our
tips and tricks on jet lag andhow we overcome it or don't
overcome it. Andrew, what's beengoing on lately with flying.
Anything you want to rant about,always.
Andrew (01:25):
I always have a rant in me. No, flying has been decent.
I have. We've had a lot ofvacations recently, so I would
stack a lot of my days. So Ican't say that I've been my best
Rich (01:38):
at so much harder. Like, it's so worth it in the end to
have all that time. Oh, forsure, but it's so much harder to
stack your days. Oh, you'relike,
Andrew (01:45):
Yeah, die six day block.
One day off, six day block. It'sbrutal. I haven't been my best,
but I've survived, no, but I gotrandom day TSA the other day
after I, like, scanned him forKCM, and I got the dreaded
random so I, like, March my wayaround. And there's this girl
there. There's this new Tiktoktrend where you like, take the
pan and you like, set all youritems out. Really cute. So she
(02:08):
like, emptied her bags. She had,like, her laptop and her iPad
and her camera and her lipstickand her blush and like,
everything arranged just so ittook her, like, 45 minutes, and
I was like, please get out of myway. Please just move, I kind of
do the stick trend out of thearea. Yeah, right. Like, do or,
like, set your pan up out of theway so that you can then get in
(02:30):
line with it and, like, push itdown the rollers. But she was
like, there was no way to getaround her. Finally, TSA opened
up a second lane so that, like,the line of people behind her
could go around because she likeand, you know, it's bad because
TSA don't want to help nobody,they don't. And as an
influencer, like, I understandgetting the, yeah, influencer, I
understand getting the perfectright? I understand, like,
(02:52):
setting up and getting theperfect shot. But like, that's
not the time or place for it.
Please stop this trend. Whoeverstarted it? I I beg of you,
please stop it. Just cut it out.
It's not cute. It's not a goodlook, actually. Now that we're
hungry, are you saying you didit? Are you telling me,
Rich (03:11):
but now that we're on the topics influencer trends, I'm
like, What idiot would want todo this? So that's why we'll
never be, like, realinfluencers, because I can't be
bothered to do half the shit
Andrew (03:24):
that people so I love my life too much to, like, stop it
and take pictures. Oh,absolutely.
Rich (03:29):
But the No, it made me think of this other Tiktok trend
that people are doing, and Ioverheard these girls talking
about it on the train to theairport the other day. It's that
trend where, like, people are,like, trying to see if they can,
like, make it to a flight inlike, a certain amount of time,
like, they're trying to do,like, an hour or whatever. Oh,
yeah, do you know I'm talkingabout? I haven't, but I can. I
can do it. Well, I know we can.
We have a lot of, like, securitythings that we can get. But
(03:53):
like, the whole thing is, like,they're trying to see how fast
they can get to the airport orwhatever. And these girls are
taking this video on the train,and they were like, it's 1045
and our flight said 1130 andwe're gonna see if we can make
it. And I was just laughing,because, first of all, we're on
SEPTA, and if you live inPhilly, you're probably not
gonna make it if you're ridingup doing it. And second of all,
(04:13):
if it was 1145 you were still asolid 20 minutes from there,
right? And we were like, just atPenn Medicine, which is still
like, a 20 minute ride to theairport, and
Andrew (04:25):
please fund SEPTA continue, right? And
Rich (04:29):
so, like I was thinking, like doing the math. I was like,
Okay, so 20 minutes to get tothe airport, if SEPTA doesn't
randomly decide to stop working,and then that gives them like,
I'm not good at math, but like,25 minutes to get to get to
their flight, when they usuallyclose the door. 1015, minutes
early, these girls are introuble. But it was funny,
nonetheless. But yeah, theseTiktok trends, they have to go
(04:51):
because some of these peoplestop believing. Everything you
see on Tiktok, it makes me feelsuch a boomer. I mean, I know
Andrew (04:57):
we've talked about this, but this is like the next.
Pillow full of underwear for me,this is on the same line of
like, the neck pillow full ofunderwear for me. Like, stop
doing this. It's not funny. Youlook stupid, and then you're
gonna yell at a gate agentbecause you made this decision.
You're gonna be like, I missedmy flight. It's not literally
(05:18):
your fault. You did it. I'mreally mad at them for it,
Rich (05:22):
understandable. But honestly, other other than
laughing at Tiktok people flyinghas been going really well
lately. Actually, I wanted totalk about this because I had
just had a trip. We wereworking, I think, some turn
somewhere. And you know whenyou're working one of those days
and you're on the cart withsomebody and you just like,
click, like, you're, oh yeah, insync, you operate the same way,
(05:44):
like, down to, like, wherethings go, like, how
Andrew (05:48):
you you don't have to say anything, like, the way your
eyeballs move, and they're like,here's the Diet Coke you asked.
Or
Rich (05:54):
literally just, there's, there's just magic. And so we
were finishing the service, andthis kid, he's only been flying
a couple years. He was so niceand easy to work with, and we're
laughing in the galley. And Iwas like, I just have to say,
like, not to be weird, butreally, like working the car
with you. And he's like, I wasthinking the same, I'm so glad
(06:14):
you said it. And he's like, youand I, we have really good cart
chemistry. And I was like, cartchemistry, I love this. I'm
coining this. This is a realthing. I'm absolutely stealing.
I can't remember his name rightnow, and that makes me mad, but
I'm totally blanking. But I waslike, cart chemistry, it's so
true, because there's somepeople you work with and you're
(06:34):
like, What are you even doingover there on the car?
Andrew (06:37):
Click the green button and they click the red one at
the same time. Never in sync.
You're
Rich (06:41):
like, right? They're moving the car. Like, where are
you going and not done yet?
Like, there's no communication.
It's a mess. But he and I waslike, we're just colliding
through the cabin on thiscarton. It was
Andrew (06:51):
perfect. Gosh, that makes work so much easier. Oh,
my God. I love when you havegood chemistry like that,
because it makes work so mucheasier.
Rich (06:58):
Seattle turn too. So it's like an 11 hour day. You were
doing a long day that. And I waslike, if I had a bad crew for
this, I would have murderedsomebody. So, cart
Andrew (07:07):
chemistry, cart chemistry. You heard her here
first, important to everyone,yeah.
Rich (07:12):
But back to jet lag. Oh, my God. How do you do it? How do
we do it? Not personally, notWell, no, no. And can you think
of any times for sure had Yeah,jet lag gone wrong or right?
Andrew (07:28):
It usually goes wrong for me. I think you know this
well. I don't think I absolutelyknow you know this. But for the
rest of everyone that doesn'tknow me personally, I I don't
have a strong stomach, becausethat's correct, very, it's very
weak. She's sensitive, very, wefight a lot, a lot, a lot, a
(07:49):
lot. So I Oh, you I know mystomach and
Rich (07:53):
I, two of us, no, I was like, We don't fight over that.
I'm not that mean. But no,
Andrew (07:57):
my stomach and I, we fight a lot. So I think that's
my biggest struggle, because Ihave, like, some sort of
illness. I feel like trying tofigure out, like, food and sleep
with my stomach, to keep thatlike, as weak as possible,
right, without being too weakthat. But do you remember that
time we went to I'm telling waytoo much information about my
(08:19):
personal Amsterdam. We went toAmsterdam. Yes, we were going
for our anniversary. I thought Ihad mastered it. I was like,
Okay, I'll eat dinner at thistime. I'll get this much sleep.
By the time we get on the plane,we'll go have a cup of coffee.
Our Airbnb will be ready by thistime. Sorry, we're not be like,
ready to go and like, be able toenjoy the day. So we get to the
(08:41):
airport, the flights delayed,which means my meal is delayed,
so like my plan is already shotto shit. We get on the flight.
We are seated next to this man.
Was a window seat that got upevery 25 minutes. So like we
were middle and aisle. He wasthe window seat. He got up every
20 minutes, so there was nosleep to be had on this it was a
full flight. We were lucky to beon it, so we're not complaining,
(09:03):
but like, Craig was up every 20minutes, so like zero sleep was
had on the flight. And then weget to Amsterdam. It took us,
like, absorbent amount of timeto get through customs, because
everybody wanted to be inAmsterdam that day. Yeah, we
finally get to be going nothinglike, literally nothing went
(09:25):
right? We finally get to ourAirbnb at like, four in the
afternoon, after having been upall night and like wandering the
city. Want, yes, with bags intow, like we're sitting in
cafes, like, just bags in thecorner, whatever. And I thought
I was doing really good. So wefinally get to the Airbnb, we
like, throw our bags down. I waswe rented a
Rich (09:47):
boat house, yes, and I was fumbling because I couldn't find
the Airbnb, like, key codeaccess stuff. So we're standing
on, like, the back of thishouseboat on the little patio,
and I'm fine. Fumbling, andyou're, you're like, I think I
need to go to the bathroom, andI'm, like, searching for this
key code, like I'm going as fastas I can.
Andrew (10:07):
Yeah, Rich was doing everything. And I get on my
hands and knees on the back deckand just start hurling into the
canal, because we can't even getinto the Airbnb. I'm just so
sorry. I'm hurling into a canal,and then we spend from like, the
whole rest of the day. For me isdone, because my stomach is so
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weak I cannot recover from this.
I'm like, in and out of thebathroom, laying on a couch Rich
is finally like, do you want togo to dinner? And I
Rich (10:35):
was like, for dinner for why he looks like he knows, like
old Victorian and ladies andthose paintings, or she's, yeah,
exactly like laying out on thecouch, pale as hell. That was
the that was night one inAmsterdam firm.
Andrew (10:50):
But you know what's great about Amsterdam is they're
known for their French fries.
And, like, everyone brings youfrench fries. So we did go to
dinner, and like my weak assstomach, just had French fries
for dinner, which was satnicely, perfect. It was, it was
a wonderful meal. But I justremember finally getting this
houseboat. It's beautiful, bythe way, that's in a stunning
canal in this littleneighborhood. And I'm like,
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Whoa. It was awful. It was theworst. So good at it.
Rich (11:16):
So funny though. I mean, those canals have seen it. I
mean, Amsterdam is a Party City,but they probably just aren't
used to seeing it at threeo'clock. To seeing it at three
o'clock in the afternoon, butthey've seen it. They've seen
it.
Andrew (11:26):
I'm sure they had. I still just feel bad, but this
happens to me everywhere, likewe went to that one time, and I
thought I had done all the rightthings. Rich was working a trip
to Portugal, and I, like, cameout of security and was like,
how many seats? And I jumped onthe flight with him, and we
ended up in Portugal. And he'slike, okay, you've never been on
an overnight with me. So wehave, like, 24 hours. We've got
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to, like, hit the groundrunning, go, go, go, go. And I
was like, but I could really usea nap first. And he was like,
No, we don't have time for that,right? I was like, and
Rich (11:55):
this is earlier on, maybe in our relationship, so we
weren't, I didn't know about thestomach issues quite as much.
Andrew (12:03):
I knew we were going to be regretful of this decision.
Rich did not know we were goingto be regretful of this
decision. And if you don'ttravel a lot, I'm still pretty
new to a lot of it. Somecountries, they don't have
public restrooms, unless you payfor them, and you have to have
money, and then you're like,standing in the street being
like, help someone. Help me. Ineed a euro.
Rich (12:26):
There's nothing worse than having to pee and being like, I
need to find money first. Andthose like, little, oh, sure,
but I was throwing up like I wasgonna throw all that too. But, I
mean, you know, for those thatmight not be needing to vomit,
but the people that work thosebathrooms too, they're not
forgiving about that. They'relike, Nope, you don't have the
money. You're not coming in,
Andrew (12:47):
correct? It was awful.
It was the but we finally gotsome food, and like, settled
down and like, I was fine, butlike, I don't. Man, I some we
landed in Paris, and I thought Ihad food poisoning from the
flight before, and it wasbecause my weak stomach didn't
get enough sleep on the flightover. I'm telling you, this
happens to me all the time. It'sawful.
Rich (13:07):
Well, you're getting better. We're finding ways to
cope. We're working through it.
Don't
Unknown (13:11):
feel too Hannah Safety Day,
Rich (13:15):
but honestly, it's good for both of us, because I think
I'm nailing jet lag most of thetime. I said, think, I think I
am often and I'm used to likehitting around, running and
doing whatever like I found waysto cope on layovers and things
like that. But you do find goingforward exactly, it's always
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coming home for me. And Iremember we were, I think I was
working a trip back from whoknows where, somewhere in
Europe, and we made plans thatnight. I think, I think we made
plans, and then I pickedsomething up, thinking, no big
deal. We land early tickets to ashow for Christmas. Yeah, yeah.
So I picked up the trip, and Iwas like, it'll be fine. We'll
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be back early, and then we'regonna go see a show. It was,
like, a Christmas present orwhatever, and we were gonna go
see Mrs. Doubtfire when it cameto Philly. And I'm thinking,
okay, it's fine. I can, like,land nap and then go and it's
gonna be fine. But flight endedup being late, as flights do,
and we had to go straight out tothe date as soon as I got home.
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So I get dressed and, like, makemyself a drink. I'm, like,
having coffee and drinking,like, thinking I'm just pepping
myself up. I'm ready to rally.
I'm ready to rally. We go to,you know, dinner. We have
whatever. We're all good.
Everything's good. I'm sittingdown for the show. We're so
excited about seeing Mrs.
Doubtfire, because Andrew is,like, one of his favorite
movies. He loves Robin Williams.
And we're sitting there, and Idon't know few numbers. Do you
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know how rich is Doubtfire? Afew, few songs in, I was out. I
was out like a light, and Iremember intermission and being
like, Oh, I'm i. Am loving thisshow. And Andrew's like, really,
and are you? This isn't like menot loving musicals. I love
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musicals. But I just was sotired, and really thought I
could rally and power through.
And it turns out I'm not so goodat that.
Andrew (15:13):
Yeah, it was funny, but you can't call somebody out for
sleeping like that, though,because then they just get mad
at you. They're like, No, I'mfine.
Rich (15:21):
Oh, I mean, I admitted it.
You did I was, I definitelyadmitted it. It was also pretty
obvious. I think everyone aroundus was like a CR, right? But
yeah, so what are some ways thatyou have learned to cope with
jet lag after all these wildstories of ours? What? What are
some things that actually workfor you so
Andrew (15:40):
we now bring our own food, like we'll go get Yes, you
can't, not that airplanes won'tfeed you, but you can't trust
that, like one it's enough foryou, or that it'll be timed
appropriately for Rick my body.
So instead of just having, likechips and things, we'll go to,
like a deli and grab a sandwichand have a sandwich in our bag
so that if I start feeling likeI need food, or start getting
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nauseous, I'll be able to eat.
You know, they say sleep. Ipersonally believe that you just
have to power through and, like,figure out how to, like, adjust
for the most part. When I'mflying, I personally don't leave
my own time zone. Like, yeah, ifI'm out working, I don't adjust.
Like, if I'm tired and we'redone working, I go to sleep. It
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could be two in the afternoon,it could be 10pm like,
Rich (16:29):
right? Because when you're working, it's like, you're never
there long enough for it tomatter correct. So it's critical
that you stay right, keep yourbody on local time, like, home
time, because it messes
Andrew (16:40):
you up, correct, and then you're gonna be home, like,
two days later. I've got to getback into your own routine. So
if I'm working, I don't adjust.
I just stay on my own time zone.
If I am on vacation, I try to,like, just power through, just
stay awake until, like, it'ssleep time there, and that way
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you, like, crash out for like,the appropriate eight hours. So
you can, like, wake up in themorning and keep going. What
about you? I, for
Rich (17:10):
me, it kind of depends what direction I'm going. Like,
I do a lot of Europe, and I feellike, when I'm in Europe, I if I
power nap, like, it depends toowhen you land Airbnb or hotel
situation, am I able to go takea nap somewhere? So usually I
just end up forcing myself tostay awake, because the odds are
you're gonna have to anyway, butthat it can be hard because,
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like, that first day ends upbeing kind of a wash, because
you're you find yourself like,out and about somewhere, and
you're forcing yourself to stayawake, and you're like, Okay, we
have to go somewhere else and dosomething else, but it can't be
like too, you know, inactive,because we'll fall asleep
somewhere in a bench. So thatfirst day ends up being a
struggle. So usually I just tryto immediately acclimate to
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local time, because I feel likethat is what works best in like
for the remainder of the trip,and then drinking water. I know
it's so cliche, but like,Staying hydrated is really
helpful. And then obviously I'mchugging coffee all day long,
trying to, like, keep myselfcaffeinated and wired. But I
struggle so much with the water,because I do not like the taste
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of water. So hard for me, youguys, I try so hard. You can do
it. I have faith in you,
Andrew (18:20):
I know, but I think I'm allergic to it. You know how
some people like are allergic tocilantro and it tastes like
soap. I think I'm allergic towater. I think it tastes like
soap. I don't
Rich (18:29):
really love it. I don't think that's a thing. I'm pretty
sure it's a thing. I don't thinkyou could be allergic to water,
can you I mean, actually, haveno idea. So this is not a
scientific podcast. Maybe youjust took
Unknown (18:41):
my joke and made it something serious, and it really
wasn't.
Rich (18:44):
Sorry, my bad. I don't know if that's the thing.
Andrew (18:47):
It's not I was making a good joke. But yes, water is
important, even if you don'tlike it, if it tastes like soap,
you still have to, you stillhave to use it.
Rich (18:56):
Yeah, but I mean, the biggest thing about jet lag for
me personally, like, it reallydepends on, like, how we're
getting home or how we'regetting to and from places.
Like, the good thing aboutflying and being a flight
attendant is the flightbenefits. But the sucky thing
about that is it's the so whenit comes to, like, planning to
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overcome jet lag, like,sometimes things just don't go
according to plan. Like,sometimes when we're non
revving, it's like, you thinkyou're going to take this fight
here, and you don't, and thenyou're immediately scrambling.
And thank God for staff travelerfor that reason, because I like,
there's nothing worse than beingjet lagged. You land in a city,
you think your connection isgoing to be somewhere, and now
(19:38):
you're tired. You need a nap,you need to eat, and you also
need to figure out
Andrew (19:42):
how you're getting when we missed our connection, and we
literally, we didn't haveanother plan. It was totally
staff traveler who saved us, whobecause there was another flight
15 hours later, but we stillmade it.
Rich (19:56):
Yeah, because we thought, we thought, like, oh, we have
three hours to connect in thiscity. Me, we'll be fine. We were
not fine. We were not and wedid. We were like wandering the
Doha airport, scatter brained,tired, trying to figure out how
to how to go, where we weregoing. And staff traveler came
in handy, and we figured out,but yeah, our next connection
(20:17):
was, like, 16 hours later, butstaff traveler, thank God.
Andrew (20:21):
Yes, I love them. Not only do they give you loads but
they also really help withroots. Because, like, you just,
you get in a position like that,and you don't know what airlines
fly where all the time, and youcan, like, put in your route,
and you can figure out who toask loads of, yeah, because you
don't even know who to ask loadsof with, I mean, without them, I
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wouldn't know half the time. And
Rich (20:43):
you're, you're right, like, I use their app, even just
for the search feature, half thetime, to figure out, map,
mapping out where we're going,like, we're going to Egypt, and,
you know, we're mapping thatout, and we're trying to figure
out where we're going to andfrom and going to Croatia, like,
we did the same thing.
Andrew (20:59):
The the mapping out feature absolutely saved us
because, you know, you're tryingto look through your company's
Ed fares or whatever to try tofigure out how route but you
don't know who to look for.
Yeah, exactly. I mean, Croatianshould Croatian air should have
been the first look
Rich (21:13):
it should have. Yeah, Croatian air and Croatia came in
handy.
Unknown (21:16):
Should have been our first look, but it wasn't. But
for
Rich (21:20):
those of you don't have it and you can download staff
traveler for free at stafftraveler.com/two guys, and go
ahead and download it. It's freeto use to the way you earn
credits to look at flight loadsis by filling requests from
other people at other airlinesfor your airlines. So the more
people that work on the app oron the app and engaged, the
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better it works. So yeah, get onthere. If you're not on it. It's
a great app and a great tool touse when you're non revving on
flying standby staff travel,whatever you want to call it. It
is literally a lifesaver for usand so many reasons. But doing
that while jet lagged still astruggle, it is still a
struggle. How do you feel likeyou how do we manage, how do we
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manage our life with jet lag?
Andrew (23:08):
You know, I think we do the best that we can. I think it
really helps that we both traveland we understand each other and
each other's schedules a lot. Ifeel like we give each other a
lot of grace in that we're tiredor our brains aren't working
right, because we've justfinished like, a international
trip or a long set of days, andobviously we were jet lagged. So
(23:30):
I think, like, relationshipwise, I think it's just grace
and understanding is really whatis most important between us.
But like, I don't I do. I wasgonna say I don't know about
you, but I absolutely know aboutyou. I need, like, a full day of
like nothing Ness after likeanything more than two, two days
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of work, two
Rich (23:51):
days I need. I need a day off after one. But
Andrew (23:55):
no, I know you mean if you give me, like, 346, days
like that, first day off that Ihave. Do not put anything on my
calendar. Do not scheduleanything for me. I am I just
need to, like, veg out and like,my social batteries drained. My
physical battery is drained.
Like, I just need to sit thereand do nothing. We
Rich (24:16):
do this a lot too. Like, where we'll make plans like, oh,
one of us lands it this time,and then we'll go out later and
do this. And it's like, wealways think that sounds like a
good idea, and we almost alwaysregret it, because one of us is
just like, dead to the worldalways.
Andrew (24:30):
I'll tell you what my Achilles heel is, though, it's
not so much coming in from work,yeah, it's before work, because
I feel like I make plans, like,the day before I'm about to
start a trip, and I'm like, ohmy god, I can go. Have so sorry,
friends. I have so much I canhave so much fun. But then my
reports are always so early inthe morning that I feel like I
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need to be in bed by like, 6pmso like, anything after 5pm the
day before I go to work, I'mlike, okay, but I need to go to
bed. I need to go to bed. Like,20 minutes ago. I'm like,
counting the hours that I stillhave remaining to sleep, I never
achieve it. I don't know whythis is a stressor for me, but
it is such a stressor for me.
And I feel like the first day ofmy trip, the first night before
I go to work, leads to most ofmy jet lag, yeah, because I
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don't sleep well ever. But wehad fun. Oh, we're going to
Rich (25:24):
Sarah and Vinny that we tomorrow. Yeah, we always have
fun with we always have fun.
Work does not come in the way ofour friendship. Ever. It does
not Yeah, I think, I thinkyou're right, though. I think
our perspective with each other,and both understanding it and
the job that we have reallymakes a difference. Because it's
like, okay, I understand whenyou come home from work, you're
going to be in this mood, withthis level of energy, with this
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much brain space and capacity todo whatever. And I feel like we
are getting good at giving eachother grace in those moments
where it's like, okay, you'recoming in from a trip. I gotta
give you, like, an hour. Or to,like, decompress or unwind or
whatever, before I start askingquestions and whatever. That
sounds bad, like I'minterrogating him when he comes
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home. No,
Andrew (26:09):
but I feel like we both know that. Like, sometimes you
come home and you, like, don'twant to talk about work, and so,
like, we don't. And then thereare other times when, like, you
need to get your day out of you,like you'd need to vent about
it. So, like, I mean, that'swhere it's a fine line. Because,
I mean, I'm the say, I feel likeI'm 100% the same way. Sometimes
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I need to, like, just diarrheaat all out. And sometimes I'm
like, I don't want, I don't needto tell you what happened today.
Yeah, so true. I worked. I wason an airplane. That was my day.
How do you feel about sleepaids? I know, like a lot of
people, when they're talkingabout jet lag, recommend sleep
aids and things. How do you feelabout those?
Rich (26:51):
I've never been a fan like melatonin and things like that.
I know a lot of flightattendants use, although I
recently found out a lot ofinternational carriers can't use
any of that whatsoever. Yeah,but I've never, they've always
made me feel groggy and weird,like I still have trouble
falling asleep, and then when Iwake up, I'm a mess. So I'm
like, Was that really worth itin the beginning? So I've never
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been a big fan of it. What aboutyou?
Andrew (27:14):
Yeah, I'm not really either. I mean, NyQuil, if I'm
feeling under the weather,that's about all that I'll take,
or single or something likethat,
Rich (27:22):
but because NyQuil when you're sick, like, knocks you
out gloriously, but in terms ofbeing absolutely
Andrew (27:28):
needed healthy. But, yeah, no, for like, I'm not a
big sleep aid person. I reallyjust power through until I
finally knock out and thenfigure out how to adjust myself.
But I'm not, I'm not a fan.
Yeah,
Rich (27:43):
I'm the same way. I was Googling earlier, like, what are
tips to for jet lag that peopledo? And that was one of them
that's on there. Other ones,stick to local time. We talked
about that one, strategicnapping we've talked about that
one, but that is airlinedependent, it seems. Yeah.
Andrew (28:00):
I mean, I am a big strategic Napper. I fully
believe in it, like, I thinkthat's really how you make it
work, right? But also yourflight has to be on time and
your hotel has to be ready foryou to check in. Like, strategic
napping is not so strategic.
Yeah, you're on the struggleboat, right? And that's how I
end up searching Portugal for aeuro.
Rich (28:26):
Another one was move your body. And this one's funny,
because I think they're sayingit in the way of, like, you
should exercise to, like, wakeyour body up. I'm only doing the
exercise to stay awake. Like, ifI stop moving when I'm this
tired and jet lagged, I will beasleep. I'll be asleep standing
up. I'll be asleep on a bus.
I'll be asleep on a bus bench.
I'll be asleep on a sidewalk,I'll be asleep in a bar. Like it
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does not matter. I will beasleep.
Andrew (28:50):
This one is good. I mean, I understand it, but what
irritates me is that I canpicture the passengers who read
this note and think that moveyour body means to, like, stand
in the aisle when look my eyesalready twitching. I'm trying to
keep my eye from twitching.
Friends are the people who like,stand up when you're doing the
meal service and like, are doingyoga in the aisle because, like,
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my body needs to move. Orthey're like, the ones in the
galley doing galley yoga. Likethey read this and thought, Oh,
I know. I'll do galley yogaevery 22 minutes. I didn't say
do it on the plane. I didn'teither. But you know that? You
know the people who read thisand take it that way, please,
please sit down. Don't move yourbody on the plane.
Rich (29:32):
I mean, I get it on long flights, but people really do.
And this is a whole tangent onits own, but people really do
get up on like, a one hourflight and they're like, Oh, I
just have to stretch. And I'mlike, are you okay that you
can't sit down for 30 minuteswithout getting up? Like,
Andrew (29:47):
and obviously we know it's not true. Sit down,
Rich (29:51):
get sunlight. I mean, that one I agree with, stay hydrated,
adjust early. I'm never gonna dothat, like, days before. Start
adjusting to local time.
Andrew (30:00):
I know the only thing that I try to not jet lag, but I
try to adjust my stomach likedays before. Anytime we travel
now, I start taking probioticsand things like days before.
That's been a game change. Theweakest stomach ever we go to
Bali. Everyone around us isgetting like, Bali belly, and
I'm like, Oh, I startedprobiotic in three days. I'm
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like, brushing my teeth withtheir water. And everyone's
like, aren't you scared? And I'mlike, No, I'm fine. Everyone
Rich (30:27):
said they're going to Bali too. They're like, you're gonna
get really sick. You're gonnaget everybody gets it. It's Bali
belly like, and both of us werefine. You were taking the
probiotic. And I think I have astomach of steel. I don't
actually know what's wrong withme, but I don't get ill from
things like that.
Andrew (30:41):
Speaking of Bali, this is the one time where I think we
both mastered and failed jet lagall at the same time. We went in
a day before our trip wassupposed to start. No two days.
We went in two full days beforeour trip was supposed to start.
We rented this beautiful Airbnbwith like this outdoor living
space, and. This pool, and thenit had this outdoor shower we
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were going to enjoy the shit outof this Airbnb. We get there, we
jump into the pool because we'relike, hot from, like, waiting,
and it looks refreshing. We jumpinto the pool. We lay in the sun
for like, two hours. And I saylay in the sun because we both
fell asleep on this, like,sleeper bench that we had, and
we were like, Okay, let's moveinside and go to take a nap. We
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woke up a solid 24 hours later.
We lost a full day, yeah? And wewoke up at like, 10am and we're
like, yeah, I guess it's good.
We had two days.
Rich (31:35):
Yeah, we slept so much so, honestly, so worth it if you're
going to Asia from the States.
Plan a buffer Safety Day,because it's a buffer day to
your buffer day for just puresleep. It's, it's genius, highly
recommend. But, yeah, that waspretty much it for the Google
tips. I mean, it was all prettystandard, straightforward stuff
that we do. I feel like
Andrew (31:56):
you have to know your body and how you adjust to
things and so, like all of thesetips and tricks are great, yeah,
but they're not going to workfor you individually, like not
all of them are going to work.
So, you know, I obviously needsleep and food to be able to
master jet lag. But I
Rich (32:15):
think the biggest, best tip takeaway from all of this is
buffer time, oh, like planning,like padding your travels so
that you don't screw yourself.
Like, don't plan on, you know,landing and hitting the ground
running. Don't plan on doingwhatever, like, have extra time
built in so that you don'tcompletely ruin your vacation by
being completely jet lagged andmessed up,
Andrew (32:38):
yeah, particularly, if you're taking a cruise stop
planning to land 20 minutesbefore your cruise. I know, oh
my
Rich (32:45):
god, the people that are like and the cruise leaves it
too, and now I didn't make itbecause of you.
Andrew (32:52):
Yeah, a whole buffer day. Please. Plan a buffer day
Rich (32:56):
before we go. Let's do a quick round of galley gossip. We
have another story from one ofour listeners. Galley gossip is
when we check in and we sharestories from our listeners about
crazy things that have happenedon a flight, because people are
always asking, What is thecraziest thing that's ever
happened to you on a flight? Sowhether you're a passenger,
pilot, flight attendant, gateagent, whoever, we want to hear
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your stories. So go to two guyson a plane, comm slash podcast,
submit your stories to us, andwe'll read them right here on
the show. You can remainanonymous if you want, but you
don't have to use a fake name.
That's fine, too, as long as thestory is real. So this one is
from Amanda. She was going fromBoston to San Francisco. The
gate agent came to the back ofthe airplane and says, We can't
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leave yet. TSA just called andsaid they just realized the guy
went through security with amouse in his pocket. Oh, Lord,
we all so
Andrew (33:47):
many jokes to make right now. Sorry.
Rich (33:51):
Anyways, back to the story. We all looked at each
other like, what? So she findsout which passenger and goes up
to him, asks him if it's true.
He says, No, it's not in mypocket. It's in a box in my
backpack. Again. We're all like,what the fuck she takes him off?
He's like, Well, if I give youthe mouse, can I still go to San
Francisco? No man, you hit amouse in your pocket when you
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went through security. You can'tbe on this flight. I just really
need to know if he found it inthe airport in the first place,
or if he brought it from homeand was like, Yeah, bringing it
across the country with me todayseems like a great idea.
Andrew (34:25):
I it was in a box. It had to have come from home.
Like, it doesn't make right? Thestory doesn't make sense, yeah,
why were you carrying a boxhoping to catch a mouse in an
airport?
Rich (34:35):
I don't even really know what to think about this story.
Why were you bringing the mousewith you? Where? Like, what was
the purpose of bringing themouse like? What? Also, a mouse
can ground an airplane, if it'sloose on an airplane, like, they
can shoot through wiring. Theycan screw up the communication
electronic systems. Like my someplanes Not, not an idea, not a
(34:57):
good idea.
Andrew (34:57):
I like your story, but I need you to be nosier in real
life, I have follow upquestions, and I feel like they
should have been your follow upquestions,
Rich (35:07):
more details. If we can get a part two, Amanda,
Andrew (35:12):
that would be great.
Yeah. Did it come from home?
What was he going to do with itonce he got to San Francisco?
Was this a pet? Was this just arandom animal, right? Does he
have a snake? Was he gonna feedit like what is happening?
Amanda did not ask enough follow
Rich (35:25):
up, so many questions. So for those of you that are going
to submit your story to us, wewant details. We want all the
details, so many details,
Unknown (35:34):
so many
Rich (35:35):
because we're gonna have questions. I always have
questions. We'll keep sending usthose stories. We love reading
them, and we hope you likelistening to them as much as we
like reading them.
Andrew (35:44):
But a mouse, I still don't understand. Why do you
have a mouse? Questions?
Rich (35:50):
Okay, closes out. We're ready to go. Before we go, we
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