May 27, 2025 • 28 mins
Ever wonder if you'd thrive wandering the streets of Paris solo or if you're better off swapping stories over cocktails with new travel buddies in Bali? In this episode, we’re soaring into the pros and cons of solo vs. group travel—from creepy stares at 35,000 feet to magical nights under the Eiffel Tower. We’re opening up about our own travel habits, biggest surprises, and a few hilarious (and slightly sketchy) stories from our journeys. We’ll also chat about how our flight attendant perks have shaped the way we travel, why we were originally hesitant about group trips, and what changed our minds. Plus, we share an emotional listener story that'll have you reaching for the tissues.
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Episode Highlights:
[1:00] - Drew gets creepily stared at by a passenger—and we try to unpack the serial killer vibes.
[3:25] - Rich's magical Paris layover and surprise encounter with Two Guys on a Plane fans.
[6:20] - Our initial fear of group travel and how Bali totally changed the game.
[8:00] - Why Drew's idea of "solo travel" really just means traveling with Rich.
[10:20] - The Airbnb horror story with chain-smoking hosts and red mattresses.
[13:08] - That time we maybe kind of almost got murdered in Greece… or not?
[15:42] - What actually made our Bali group trip so magical (spoiler: it wasn’t just the food).
[18:41] - Our hybrid travel style: freedom + structure = the perfect itinerary.
[22:06] - Spicy suckling pig, sweating through dinner, and trying new foods.
[23:00] - Feeling safe and supported: why group travel opens doors for everyone.
[24:06] - Built-in friends, low stress, and why you should travel with us.
[26:43] - Listener story: CPR at 35,000 feet and a beautiful reunion in the skies.
[28:21] - Shout out to our amazing community, Patreon supporters, and what’s next.
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Rich (00:00):
Have ever wondered what your flight attendants are
really talking about behind thegalley curtain? Welcome
Andrew (00:06):
to Two guys on a plane.
Your go to podcast for aninsider look at flight attendant
life.
Rich (00:11):
We're your hosts, rich and Drew, and we're here to tell you
what really goes on at 35,000feet.
Andrew (00:16):
So sit back, relax.
We're ready for takeoff.
Rich (00:21):
All right, everybody, welcome back to two guys on a
plane. We are so excited to haveyou here for this episode. Today
we are going to answer the ageold question, to solo travel, or
not to solo travel. As you guysknow, we've recently started
doing some group trips, andhonestly, we weren't sure about
it when we first started doingit. I think both of us were a
little hesitant. You know, whatis a group trip? What is the
(00:43):
group dynamic gonna be like? Andit turned out to be kind of an
epic layover, but it'sdefinitely a topic that we love
discussing, and we love kind oftalking back and forth, because
there's definitely pros and consto both. So we are going to talk
about that today on our episode.
But first, Andrew, how's flyinggoing lately?
Andrew (00:59):
Oh my god. I it has been crazy. I know I say this every
time, but it has literally beeninsane. This week, I bid the mid
cabin position. And so the mostpeople, the most people of all
of the positions on theairplane, I was sitting on the
jump seat the other day readyfor takeoff, and this guy is
just staring at me, and I waslike, do something, get your
(01:21):
book out. Like, why are youstaring at me? He sat there for
the entire flight with nothing.
He brought nothing with him. Hejust sat there and stared at me.
He was raw, dogging
Unknown (01:32):
it. Yes,
Andrew (01:34):
he cranked me out so much. And it's not like you can
ask him if he's a serial killer,because that was my like, first,
my gut reaction was to be
Rich (01:40):
like, I think he's obviously a serial killer. You
don't ask a serial killer ifthere is serial killer, because
you'll be one of the next ones.
Andrew (01:48):
Yes. But also, you don't ask somebody who's crazy, why
they're crazy. Like, point itout to him. But like, don't you
have a Do you have a book? Doyou have headphones? There
something to do. Should yousleep now? Can you stop staring
at me? Yeah, it was like twohours of just staring at me. I
(02:09):
really
Rich (02:09):
don't understand people that do that. I mean, on some on
some level, like I understandsitting there and kind of just
being with your thoughts andkind of soaking it all in. But
the people doing that don't looklike they're doing that. They
look like they're plottingmurder.
Andrew (02:23):
Okay? And when I'm sitting with you, it's fine,
like I get that we're sittingface to face, like you don't
have a lot of other places tolook, but like, every time I
walked by, we were staring atAndrew, and I was like, either
give me your phone number orclose your eyes and take a nap.
Because I'm I'm over this. Itwas so creepy to me. So creepy.
Rich (02:40):
Yeah, I completely understand that. Yeah. What
about you? How's flying been forrich flying for me has been, I
said this a couple weeks ago,and I think I'm just kind of on
a winning streak lately withgood crews. I know I'm jinxing
myself. I do for like, a craptrip. It's coming. You guys, I
know it because I'm like, it'slike, when you have KCM and
like, you don't get random thatsecurity for so long, and
Andrew (03:04):
you're like, it's like, every time you vote, they're
like, that's how I feel.
Rich (03:08):
Like it's gonna happen this summer with cruise. I'm
just gonna hit this like shit,wave of just crazy people. But
luckily, my trips have beengood.
Andrew (03:17):
Don't do that to him. If you see rich on your trip,
please be nice to him thissummer, because I cannot handle
him getting home. About you. Ican't do it. Yeah.
Rich (03:25):
So I got lucky. I just had this actually amazing trip to
Paris. The crew was great. Wehad a really nice time working
together, and nobody reallywanted to hang out on the
layover. Everyone was kind ofdoing their
Andrew (03:35):
own you're in Paris. You don't need anyone to hang out
with. You grab a mini split andrun to the Eiffel Tower and have
a great time. One
Rich (03:40):
of those cities. Wandering alone is like magic. But in
typical flight attendantfashion, I started my layover at
the grocery store, as one does,and I of course, just for him,
it's more for me, if he does itfor me, it is an act of love. I
went and stocked up on Frenchbutter. And for those of you
that don't know, Mom, we alwaysgo to the grocery store in
Paris, and we stock up on Frenchbutter. Oh, Mom
Andrew (04:02):
knows, because she tries to get you to bring it home for
her too. It is
Rich (04:06):
a superior butter. And I used to make fun of senior
flight attendants for doingthis, and I've become that girl,
and I do not care. It's so good.
So anyways, to get to the pointof the story, I was in this
grocery store, I hunched overthis like dairy case, like, just
stocking up. I think I got like,10 or 12 sticks of butter, and
I'm like, sweating because itwas kind of warm that day, and I
just, like, don't look great,and I'm hunched over, and I've
(04:27):
just got an arm full of butter,and I just hear two guys on a
plane. Is that? Is that you, Icould just picture it. The
visual is strong, yeah, me andan arm full of me. And, I mean,
you could deny it at that point.
(04:47):
And I was like, Hey, how's itgoing? And of course, it was a
crew from WestJet, a Canadianairline, and we ended up hanging
out on this layover and havingfun, best time. Yeah, it was
funny. It's just like, total.
Really weird situation wherethey were talking, and I was
like, What are you guys doinglater? And like, they had a girl
on their trip that was, like,brand new, and it was her first
time. And we just had so muchfun, just out and about bouncing
(05:09):
cafe to cafe and just having amagical time. So listen, I've
been really lucky lately. He wasso
Andrew (05:17):
mad at you right now, why I get some serial killer
who's like, for two hours, andyou get some awesome experience
with some other airline inParis.
Rich (05:26):
Yeah, Andrew, how's your day? I had a serial killer rich,
how's your day? I had a magicalday in Paris. We do not live the
same life. We don't. We reallydon't, and this is why we're
here. And yet, the flightattendant job is still it's so
much, such an interesting,magical place. But anyways,
we're gonna get into it today.
We're gonna talk about solotravel and group travel and that
I, before we started doing grouptravel, I really was one of
(05:49):
those people who was like, grouptravel is not for me. I think I
just had some, like, weirdexperiences in college where it
was like, you know, people youdidn't really know or really
like or vibe with like, end upon a troop, troop, a group trip
together. We should startcalling that a troop. And we
just, you know, typos, yeah,exactly. We it just ended up, I
(06:10):
don't know, with a weird vibe.
And then we kind of took achance. Last year, we planned a
trip to Bali. We had peopleranging from ages 20 to 71 or
something like that. And youthink, Well, gosh, I don't know
about this. And then you getthere and you're like, okay, the
people that follow two guys on aplane are probably going to be
(06:31):
funny people, people who like tohave a good time. So you hope
that's what's showing Right,exactly. So that's what we did,
and it was fantastic. So wedecided to do again. But yeah,
before that, solo travel for mewas always like, okay, I can do
my own schedule. I can, youknow, wake up when I want. I can
go places when I want. I havenobody to answer to. And I think
(06:55):
I always really liked solotravel for that reason. What
about you? How do you
Andrew (06:59):
feel about solo when I say solo travel though, I mean
like me and a significant other,so like you and I, I feel like
that's what I consider solotravel. I don't do a lot, like
just on my own. I'm not reallyadventurous like that. I should
be, I will be, I promise, atsome point. But for me, solo
travel is like with asignificant other. So all of my
solo travel has been with you,and I just, I enjoy it a lot.
(07:20):
I'm not your typical traveler. Ihave been spoiled with flight
benefits for a long portion ofmy life. So I think a lot of
people, like, save up to goplaces as like, a dream
vacation. This is the only timeI've ever gonna be here, and
because I've had flight benefitsfor so long, I'm like, Oh, I can
come back next week if I want.
So, like, I don't need to doanything while I'm traveling
(07:41):
like we go. I have anexpectation of like, one or two
things that I want to see, butotherwise my day is filled with
like, cafes and patios and parksand just really leisurely
bumming around doing whatever Iwant to do. So the idea of group
travel really scared me becauseI didn't want a schedule.
(08:01):
Because I don't travel likeanyone else. I don't I go. I
don't do anything. I don't needto do anything. You do things. I
do do things, but I don't needto do any things. Like, you
know, you travel with certainpeople. And like, the whole day
is planned. Your whole day isplanned away. They're like, we
have breakfast at 9am at thiscafe. We're gonna go to this
museum and that museum, andwe're gonna go to this and that,
(08:24):
and this and that, and then, youknow, I don't travel that way,
no, because I wake up at noonand I'm like, should we go to a
cafe today? There's an artmuseum I wanted to see, or a
library. I we do remember thatday we spent like, half a day in
a library, because it was just amagical experience. We went
library, the one in Budapest?
Rich (08:49):
Library, I don't remember, but it was the one that was a
bar. Was it a bar? We went to aplace we spent all day there?
Yeah, we're very intellectual,literary people. Were over here,
like, the library. I think it
Andrew (09:03):
was a bar. Okay, fine.
We're gonna have to think moreabout this, because I don't
actually remember. It wasn'tBudapest. I lied. It wasn't
Budapest, but there wassomewhere where we went that we
spent like five hours of our dayjust in a library. It's so
funny. It was like some oldhouse that they converted to a
library, and it was justbeautiful. No, it was Greece.
That's where it was. The librarywas in Greece, and I'm gonna
have to find it now, but Iremember spending a lot of time
(09:24):
in it, but that's the travelerthat
Rich (09:27):
I am. We'll have to report back to you guys on that,
because I have no recollectionof this place. Apparently, I
thought we were in a bar, so who
Andrew (09:34):
knows? There probably was one there, because that's
what we do. That's
Rich (09:37):
definitely like a flip side for for solo travel,
though, is like, as fun as it issometimes to kind of go at your
own pace. Sometimes I need alittle bit of a schedule to,
like, force me to do something,because part of me really wants
to, like, live like a local andvisit a place like a local and
go sit in a cafe and go to arestaurant or a hole in the
wall, or a stroll just leisurelythrough the city. Yeah. And then
(10:00):
part of me is like, I want torun around and do 100 things and
see all the tourist stuff, andsee all the monuments and the
things people talk about,because, you know, you want to
feel like you've really beenthere and you've experienced it
all too, yeah. So I definitelygo back and forth on that.
Andrew (10:12):
But then there's a story that you have about that Airbnb,
that one time that justterrifies me and it lives in the
back of my brain. And so I
Rich (10:21):
think this is yeah. So that are you talking about the
birthday trip that you tellmattress? Yeah. Okay, yeah. So I
don't know if you guys are hotelpeople or Airbnb people. We're a
little bit of both. I would saywe definitely like to mix it up
and feel free to DM us orcomment and let us know what you
think about this, because somepeople are very much into
Airbnbs, and some people arenot. And after this trip, you
(10:43):
would think I wouldn't have beenanymore. This
Andrew (10:45):
story lives rent free in my brain every time we go to
Bucha, making it
Rich (10:49):
sound like it's that, like, hostile movie or
something. But, um, yeah, webasically it was my friend Linda
and I. It wasn't quite solotravel, but we were new hire
flight attendants. We had nomoney, and she's like, Oh, I
found this Airbnb inSwitzerland. It's only, like,
4040 francs a night orsomething. And I'm, you don't
know anything about Switzerland,and I'm like, that seems
(11:09):
reasonable. And I mean,Switzerland, everything is super
expensive, so the 40 Franks anight, or whatever it was,
should have been probably amajor red flag, but it wasn't,
for some reason. And so we getthere, and it's like, a two
bedroom apartment, and thislittle old lady who chain
smokes, like, opens the door andshe's like, I'm not even gonna
(11:33):
try to do an accent, actually,because I'm gonna ruin it. But I
was like, Oh, are we, like,interrupting this lady? Are we
with the wrong address? AndLinda's like, Oh, it's a shared
space Airbnb. And I was like, Ishared who what? Now I don't
think that this is for me, butalso, again, I'm a broke new
hire. I don't have any money, soI'm like, I don't know if this
is really a good idea or not,but we end up Linda and her
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bonded. Of course, they're bothsmoking and just having a great
time, like hanging out in thekitchen, drinking coffee,
smoking cigarettes. She showsthis to her bedroom, and it's
literally just this, like, emptyroom with these two red
mattresses on the floor, andthere were sheets, but the
mattresses reminded me of those,like, you know, in preschool,
when they have those, like,little folded up mats that, like
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lay out for kids to nap on.
That's what it looked and feltlike,
Andrew (12:21):
Why do you think this lives weren't free every time I
smoke an Airbnb, yeah, I'm like,no shared spaces
Rich (12:26):
blue. I have serious transitions now. But and then,
oh, and the dog. There was adog. I forget it had, like, a
weird little Italian name too.
Like, I don't even, I know thatsounds crazy, but I don't
remember what the dog's namewas. Why? Why am I blanking on
what it was, but the importantfact, like little mafia dog,
but, like, literally, just runup and just bite your shin and
then be like, ah and just attackyou. So it was an experience. I
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went back to Switzerland. Turnedout I loved it when I went and
got my own accommodations. Butyeah, so I could see why people
are skeptical of solo travel. Doyou have any like crazy solo,
solo ish travel stories that youcan think of? Remember
Andrew (13:06):
that time we almost got murdered in Greece?
Rich (13:09):
Okay, we didn't almost get murdered in Greece. We didn't
know until afterwards, though,but we almost got murdered we
well, we might actually beaccomplices, is really what it
comes down to. So maybe weshouldn't air this episode, but
do tell us what happened.
Andrew (13:25):
Well, you remember, we had this lovely Airbnb in
Mykonos, and the owner wasdriving us to our boat to move
on to the next city, and we werethanking her for the
accommodations, and she waslike, oh yes, Mykonos, it's a
lovely city. You can be so freehere. It's one of the best
cities in Greece. And we wereChristina,
Unknown (13:45):
we love.
Andrew (13:46):
And she was just this, like, magical little woman. She
was beautiful. It was so nice.
And we were thanking her forallowing us to stay in the
property. And she was like, yes,my husband and I built it
together. We built a house forme, a house for him, and a house
for our daughter. And we werelike, Oh, we met your daughter.
Yeah, it was a beautifulproperty. We met your daughter.
We noticed that the two of youshare it. And she was like, Yes,
we do. My husband died as thelast nail was being put on the
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final building. His ladder justfell, and he fell down the cliff
to his death. And we were like,what? She was like, Yes, I was
there. I watched the wholething. We were
Rich (14:21):
like, what she said so nonchalantly to us too, like,
while we were driving up thismassive Hill. And she was like,
yes, these three homes. And thenthey took many months. And my
husband, he worked so hard, andshe was just like, so late into
how dedicated the
Andrew (14:39):
life that I want to live. And Mykonos is so free and
so beautiful. You should movehere. You'll love it.
Unknown (14:46):
We were like, you know, maybe Christina,
don't ask us to build anythingso
Rich (14:53):
weird that, as the last nail was put in and the project
was complete, he fell. Down thehill, off the ladder, like it
was just one of those thingswhere we were like, story is a
little too convenient.
Christina, you're leaving outsome details, leaving out a lot.
Where's your husband, right?
Andrew (15:11):
And that's how the story of how we almost got murdered
and
Rich (15:15):
murdered and or maybe accomplices. TVD, we'll report
back on that. But yeah, so weare now going to talk about
group travel, because solotravel, as you can tell from
some of our experiences, maybewe'd be better off with someone
guiding us who's actually anexpert, and I think that's why
we started group travel. Butwhat, what were some of your
(15:37):
favorite things about travelingwith a group what did you love
about our trip to Bali? All
Andrew (15:43):
of it, every single piece of it. I cannot tell you
how magical. I mean, you werethere. You know how magical it
was? I do. I cannot expressenough how magical this
experience was for me. First ofall, you know how terrified I
was to go in the first place. Idid not want to go to group
travel. I don't have thetemperament for it, I am like an
angry cat most days. I like todo my own thing, and I need to
(16:06):
be fed every 20 minutes, and ifyou get too close to me, I will
scratch you. Just mytemperament. Just showing you
Rich (16:14):
as one of those like pissed off house cats is I'm
just gonna throw your phonesolid, accurate description of
you. I think I've ever heard,
Andrew (16:23):
I'm just an angry Yeah, all the time. It's pretty spot
on. So I was worried that Iwouldn't fit into the group, or,
like, it would be too much groupfor me, and it wasn't. I really.
I think we made smart decisionsand that we didn't try to fill
the day. There was plenty offree time. We had, like,
mornings, and there were, like,maybe one or two adventures
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every day that encompass, likefour hours, and then we left
everyone free to do whateverthey wanted to do. And I just, I
really loved it. I keep saying Iwas surprised at the people that
showed up and how well we gottogether. I don't know why. I
mean, they follow us. Theyfollow our page. They're
following along in this humorousjourney. Obviously, they share
our humor, right? And eventhough we like left so much free
(17:07):
time if we weren't out doingsomething with them, we ended up
at a pool, drinking, hangingout. It was like the best
layover
Rich (17:13):
ever. Yeah, I think, I think you're right, and I I want
to go back to what you saidinitially about me being an
angry guy on an attention aboutbeing an angry cat because you
said something that you didn'twant to go initially. And I
think that's funny and also agood point, because as with most
of our ventures, I am very muchthe planner, planner instigator.
(17:37):
Doer, the instigator. Yeah, Iknow. What other words, can we
come up with for me? But I amusually the one that's like, oh,
I have this crazy idea. Want tohear it. And you're like, No, I
don't know, do I? And it'salways like, it doesn't matter,
anyway, you're gonna make me doit. And fortunately, for the
most part, it's worked outreally well. But I think I felt
the same way. I think, I thinktraveling with like minded
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people, it just sounded like toocool of an opportunity to pass
up. And I was like, we give onetrip a try. If it sucks, we
never do it again. And we didit, and we ended up loving it.
And I swear I wasn't a fan ofthe group travel idea, because I
really was just so nervous aboutjust so many things, all the
factors of like, what could gowrong, what could happen, what
could come up. And I reallyended up enjoying so many
(18:23):
different factors about it. Imean, I think the fact that we
got to pick our own itinerary,yeah, really helped a lot,
because I've always signed upfor other people's trips, and
you don't have control overthat. And obviously the people
that come on our trip arechoosing our itinerary that
we've already planned for you.
But I think the thing about
Andrew (18:42):
it we're learning them, and we're getting feedback from
people not too like the peoplethat are going we want your
feedback so we can tailor theseprevious
Rich (18:50):
people weigh in on some of our future itineraries. And
that's been a really coolexperience to kind of make
everybody feel like they're partof it. But I think the thing
about it is we want to kind ofhave a hybrid trip, like we want
those days where you've gotactivity after activity. We're
engaging in things, we'reimmersing in local culture,
we're trying new foods, we'redoing all these things. But we
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also want people to havedowntime. We want there to be
downtime on the trip. We wanteverybody to kind of have a
chance to themselves, to go outand explore. Some people want to
go shopping. Some people want togo to a cafe, some people want
to go wine tasting and thingslike that. And I love these
trips because we've really likewe have the kind of trip where
we can have an audience ofpeople from 20 to 70 with all
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different activity types, alldifferent body types, all
different ages, backgrounds,whatever. And there's something
for everybody,yes. And you know what I loved
most? You know what I found Ilove most about group travel or
these like plan trips, is thatyou just show up. Yeah, you just
show up and everything's done,you walk into an event space,
different for you, planning allof our adventures when
(19:54):
everything is to wait in line.
Her tickets, and I still have towait in line to get in. And,
like, none of those thingshappened here, like, you showed
up and someone handed youtickets, and we're like, we're
going through the specialentrance, and you're in, you're
You're in for it. And it wasn'tlike you were spending half of
the day waiting for waiting inline to go see something right
(20:19):
to get into a museum. Or, youknow, do you remember that day
solo travel? Do you rememberthat day we were at the louver,
and we spent all day. We spentlike, four hours in line to see
the Mona Lisa, and we got, like,as far as the room. I mean, the
louver is a very amazing place,but that is one of those tourist
things where you're like, I'm soglad I went, but I don't. I need
(20:41):
to go back when no one is there,no one night at the museum,
correct? Yes. It's just, you'rejust like, shoulder to shoulder
with people, and it's, it's alittle chaotic, but that was
that. I love that part. No, thelike plan, yes, just show up
there, yes. And then it's like,show for dinner, and tables are
reserved. They're like, comeright in. Let's have dinner.
Show up in the lobby. If youthink about nothing, you didn't
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even have to, like, order food.
Most of the time, like, platesjust appeared in front of you,
plates of delicious food. Sodelicious things I wouldn't have
ordered because,you know, I know that's so true.
You go to a restaurant on a soloYes, and you're like, I don't
know what to order. What am Idoing? But you go to some
restaurant on one of thesetrips, yes, and you've got your
like in somebody's house, likethe tuna
Andrew (21:23):
in the banana leaf that we had in Bali. It was so good,
Rich (21:27):
absolutely. I loved that, because we tried so many foods.
And you know me, I'm I say I'madventurous, but I'm not. I'm
picky as hell. And when it cameto food, I was like, All right,
I'll just eat whatever they putin front of me, even if I like
it or don't like it or itdoesn't look good. And I loved
every bit. It was so good. Iremember that one meal we had
the suckling pig, if you weresitting over there sweating,
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rich does not eat spices. Richdoes not eat spices. He is,
like, dripping water. I amsweating so hard in Bali, it's
already humid and, like, reallywarm, and then I'm eating this
spicy suckling pig. I mean, itliterally looked like he
Andrew (22:01):
was crying out of his forehead. He was like, dripping
from the heat. I was like, I wasproud of you.
Rich (22:06):
I was like, everyone was like, are you okay? And I was
like, it's delicious. Oh, myGod, that was so much fun.
Another thing I love about grouptravel, aside from being able to
just kind of do, like, just showup and be part of something is I
also really love, like thesafety aspect of it, like, we're
going to Egypt later this year,and a lot of people signed up
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for that trip so quickly becausethey were saying to us, I've
wanted to go there forever, andI was worried about being a
queer person going alone, orbeing a woman traveling alone,
and I just feel so much moresafe in a group of people with
an expert, trusted local guide.
And that's one thing that I'mlike, Okay, now let's pick
destinations where, like, peopledon't, you know, need support
(22:50):
and community and that sort ofthing. And I love this because I
think everyone's gonna have anincredible time, everyone's
gonna be supported, everyone'sgonna feel together on this
trip. And
Andrew (23:00):
truthfully, we agree with you, particularly in Egypt.
How many times have we plannedand canceled a trip because we
were like, is it the right time?
Is it safe for us to be there?
Like, should we actually go? Andwe have no qualms this time. I
mean, we're very excited to gofor that, the safety aspect of
it. So why travel with us? Rich?
We have three trips planned. Nowwe do have three trips planned,
Rich (23:23):
and I they're gonna be so much fun. And I just think that
traveling, you know, with thisgroup of people, especially
because half the people on ournext few trips have already been
on trips with us, so we canactually, quite literally,
guarantee that we know these aregreat people. And I just, I love
it, because it's like built infriends. And I know that sounds
so cliche and so cheesy, butlike I said earlier, if you
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follow two guys on a plane andyou like us enough to come on a
group trip with us, you'reprobably funny, you probably
have a great sense of humor,you're probably smart, and you
probably love immersing in localculture and having a good time,
and you definitely love a goodlayover. You definitely love a
good layover. This is like theultimate layover, and that's why
you should travel with
Andrew (24:06):
this. And I promise I'll only maybe angry cat you. I
can't promise I won't do it, butyeah, but
Rich (24:11):
we do currently have three trips available. We have
Croatia, Egypt and Thailand, andall three of them are going to
be amazing adventures. And wereally hope you'll join us. If
you want more information aboutthese upcoming trips, please go
to two guys on aplane.com/travel. And check it
out. Check out the itineraries,and feel free to DM us if you
have any questions. We arealways happy to talk about
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travel, and we're for sure,going to do more trips. So if
none of these trips work foryou, stay tuned and subscribe to
our email list. We willdefinitely let you know when our
next adventure is planned. Allright. And before we go, we
wanted to do a quick littlesegment called, What would two
guys do? WW, two. Gd, so this iswhere we read stories from you
guys out loud on the podcast,and then tell you what we would
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do in that situation. So feelfree to send us your stories. We
love reading them. So. This oneis from Tina. She's from
Belgium, and she was flying tothe Dominican Republic. She
said, a few years ago, I workeda flight where we had to perform
CPR, and a passenger whileflying over the Atlantic Ocean,
yikes. The man came to usclaiming he wasn't feeling well
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and was suffering from pressureon his chest. He eventually
became unresponsive and stoppedbreathing. So we immediately
started CPR. Flight crew wasinformed, and we had at least an
hour to go to the nearestairport to divert this man's
wife was inconsolable, so acolleague stayed with her for
comfort as we were working onher husband. Eventually, we were
able to land and hand thepatient over to ambulance
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personnel before they left, oneof my colleagues gave her phone
number to the wife, saying shewould call if the doctors needed
any extra information on whathappened in flight. She also
asked the wife that if she wasup for it, to let us know
afterwards if her husband wasokay. We ended up not hearing
anything for a couple of weeks,until she got a message from an
unknown number. Well, it was thewife letting us know her husband
pulled through and was releasedfrom hospital earlier that week,
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after some back and forth, sheinformed us they would try and
take their trip to the DominicanRepublic once again later that
year, if there was anypossibility that any of us would
be working that flight again.
She said her husband wasreluctant to get on a plane, but
he would feel better if he knewthis is so sweet, I'm gonna cry,
if he knew that the same crewwould be with them again. We
discussed it with head officeand were able to plan that the
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three of us in the fight thatthe couple was taking would be
there. They came on board withtwo whole bags of gifts for us,
took pictures with us, and wroteus a very emotional letter,
thanking us for our work on thatunfortunate day, they told us
all about the plans they hadwhile on holiday. I'm definitely
tearing up over here. And thehusband thanked us for giving
him a second chance at life.
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I've never cried so many tearsof happiness. Oh,
Andrew (26:43):
I bet, wow. We don't ever know that is, that's an
incredible story, and we don'tever hear don't
Rich (26:49):
That's wild. Yeah, for those of you who aren't flight
attendants, like medicalemergencies, obviously are so
stressful, but a lot of times,whether you know, we get the
outcome of what passengersituation on the flight or not?
It's it's always uncertain whathappens to them once they leave
the aircraft and they're out ofour hands, yeah, and so the fact
that they got this much, I mean,closure almost, you know, right?
(27:11):
Because it's so traumatic whenthese things happen. You You
don't know what happened. Andthat is such a beautiful story,
such
Andrew (27:17):
a beautiful story. Kudos to Tina and her crew for taking
such good care of you, andyou're a better human than I am,
because I would not have signedup for round two of that. Who
wouldn't have done it? No, Iwouldn't have signed up for
round two. It would have beenno, but kudos to you all,
because that is a beautifulstory, and I'm glad that you got
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to find out and see them again.
And I really love how that storyended, because I saw that going
a different way, and I was readyto be like, No,
Rich (27:46):
I know that is an amazing story. Keep sending us your
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see a section where you cansubmit your stories about
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humorous or heartfelt. We wantto hear it all. Keep sending us
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Have ever wondered what your flight attendants are
really talking about behind thegalley curtain? Welcome
Andrew (00:06):
to Two guys on a plane.
Your go to podcast for aninsider look at flight attendant
life.
Rich (00:11):
We're your hosts, rich and Drew, and we're here to tell you
what really goes on at 35,000feet.
Andrew (00:16):
So sit back, relax.
We're ready for takeoff.
Rich (00:21):
All right, everybody, welcome back to two guys on a
plane. We are so excited to haveyou here for this episode. Today
we are going to answer the ageold question, to solo travel, or
not to solo travel. As you guysknow, we've recently started
doing some group trips, andhonestly, we weren't sure about
it when we first started doingit. I think both of us were a
little hesitant. You know, whatis a group trip? What is the
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group dynamic gonna be like? Andit turned out to be kind of an
epic layover, but it'sdefinitely a topic that we love
discussing, and we love kind oftalking back and forth, because
there's definitely pros and consto both. So we are going to talk
about that today on our episode.
But first, Andrew, how's flyinggoing lately?
Andrew (00:59):
Oh my god. I it has been crazy. I know I say this every
time, but it has literally beeninsane. This week, I bid the mid
cabin position. And so the mostpeople, the most people of all
of the positions on theairplane, I was sitting on the
jump seat the other day readyfor takeoff, and this guy is
just staring at me, and I waslike, do something, get your
(01:21):
book out. Like, why are youstaring at me? He sat there for
the entire flight with nothing.
He brought nothing with him. Hejust sat there and stared at me.
He was raw, dogging
Unknown (01:32):
it. Yes,
Andrew (01:34):
he cranked me out so much. And it's not like you can
ask him if he's a serial killer,because that was my like, first,
my gut reaction was to be
Rich (01:40):
like, I think he's obviously a serial killer. You
don't ask a serial killer ifthere is serial killer, because
you'll be one of the next ones.
Andrew (01:48):
Yes. But also, you don't ask somebody who's crazy, why
they're crazy. Like, point itout to him. But like, don't you
have a Do you have a book? Doyou have headphones? There
something to do. Should yousleep now? Can you stop staring
at me? Yeah, it was like twohours of just staring at me. I
(02:09):
really
Rich (02:09):
don't understand people that do that. I mean, on some on
some level, like I understandsitting there and kind of just
being with your thoughts andkind of soaking it all in. But
the people doing that don't looklike they're doing that. They
look like they're plottingmurder.
Andrew (02:23):
Okay? And when I'm sitting with you, it's fine,
like I get that we're sittingface to face, like you don't
have a lot of other places tolook, but like, every time I
walked by, we were staring atAndrew, and I was like, either
give me your phone number orclose your eyes and take a nap.
Because I'm I'm over this. Itwas so creepy to me. So creepy.
Rich (02:40):
Yeah, I completely understand that. Yeah. What
about you? How's flying been forrich flying for me has been, I
said this a couple weeks ago,and I think I'm just kind of on
a winning streak lately withgood crews. I know I'm jinxing
myself. I do for like, a craptrip. It's coming. You guys, I
know it because I'm like, it'slike, when you have KCM and
like, you don't get random thatsecurity for so long, and
Andrew (03:04):
you're like, it's like, every time you vote, they're
like, that's how I feel.
Rich (03:08):
Like it's gonna happen this summer with cruise. I'm
just gonna hit this like shit,wave of just crazy people. But
luckily, my trips have beengood.
Andrew (03:17):
Don't do that to him. If you see rich on your trip,
please be nice to him thissummer, because I cannot handle
him getting home. About you. Ican't do it. Yeah.
Rich (03:25):
So I got lucky. I just had this actually amazing trip to
Paris. The crew was great. Wehad a really nice time working
together, and nobody reallywanted to hang out on the
layover. Everyone was kind ofdoing their
Andrew (03:35):
own you're in Paris. You don't need anyone to hang out
with. You grab a mini split andrun to the Eiffel Tower and have
a great time. One
Rich (03:40):
of those cities. Wandering alone is like magic. But in
typical flight attendantfashion, I started my layover at
the grocery store, as one does,and I of course, just for him,
it's more for me, if he does itfor me, it is an act of love. I
went and stocked up on Frenchbutter. And for those of you
that don't know, Mom, we alwaysgo to the grocery store in
Paris, and we stock up on Frenchbutter. Oh, Mom
Andrew (04:02):
knows, because she tries to get you to bring it home for
her too. It is
Rich (04:06):
a superior butter. And I used to make fun of senior
flight attendants for doingthis, and I've become that girl,
and I do not care. It's so good.
So anyways, to get to the pointof the story, I was in this
grocery store, I hunched overthis like dairy case, like, just
stocking up. I think I got like,10 or 12 sticks of butter, and
I'm like, sweating because itwas kind of warm that day, and I
just, like, don't look great,and I'm hunched over, and I've
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just got an arm full of butter,and I just hear two guys on a
plane. Is that? Is that you, Icould just picture it. The
visual is strong, yeah, me andan arm full of me. And, I mean,
you could deny it at that point.
(04:47):
And I was like, Hey, how's itgoing? And of course, it was a
crew from WestJet, a Canadianairline, and we ended up hanging
out on this layover and havingfun, best time. Yeah, it was
funny. It's just like, total.
Really weird situation wherethey were talking, and I was
like, What are you guys doinglater? And like, they had a girl
on their trip that was, like,brand new, and it was her first
time. And we just had so muchfun, just out and about bouncing
(05:09):
cafe to cafe and just having amagical time. So listen, I've
been really lucky lately. He wasso
Andrew (05:17):
mad at you right now, why I get some serial killer
who's like, for two hours, andyou get some awesome experience
with some other airline inParis.
Rich (05:26):
Yeah, Andrew, how's your day? I had a serial killer rich,
how's your day? I had a magicalday in Paris. We do not live the
same life. We don't. We reallydon't, and this is why we're
here. And yet, the flightattendant job is still it's so
much, such an interesting,magical place. But anyways,
we're gonna get into it today.
We're gonna talk about solotravel and group travel and that
I, before we started doing grouptravel, I really was one of
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those people who was like, grouptravel is not for me. I think I
just had some, like, weirdexperiences in college where it
was like, you know, people youdidn't really know or really
like or vibe with like, end upon a troop, troop, a group trip
together. We should startcalling that a troop. And we
just, you know, typos, yeah,exactly. We it just ended up, I
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don't know, with a weird vibe.
And then we kind of took achance. Last year, we planned a
trip to Bali. We had peopleranging from ages 20 to 71 or
something like that. And youthink, Well, gosh, I don't know
about this. And then you getthere and you're like, okay, the
people that follow two guys on aplane are probably going to be
(06:31):
funny people, people who like tohave a good time. So you hope
that's what's showing Right,exactly. So that's what we did,
and it was fantastic. So wedecided to do again. But yeah,
before that, solo travel for mewas always like, okay, I can do
my own schedule. I can, youknow, wake up when I want. I can
go places when I want. I havenobody to answer to. And I think
(06:55):
I always really liked solotravel for that reason. What
about you? How do you
Andrew (06:59):
feel about solo when I say solo travel though, I mean
like me and a significant other,so like you and I, I feel like
that's what I consider solotravel. I don't do a lot, like
just on my own. I'm not reallyadventurous like that. I should
be, I will be, I promise, atsome point. But for me, solo
travel is like with asignificant other. So all of my
solo travel has been with you,and I just, I enjoy it a lot.
(07:20):
I'm not your typical traveler. Ihave been spoiled with flight
benefits for a long portion ofmy life. So I think a lot of
people, like, save up to goplaces as like, a dream
vacation. This is the only timeI've ever gonna be here, and
because I've had flight benefitsfor so long, I'm like, Oh, I can
come back next week if I want.
So, like, I don't need to doanything while I'm traveling
(07:41):
like we go. I have anexpectation of like, one or two
things that I want to see, butotherwise my day is filled with
like, cafes and patios and parksand just really leisurely
bumming around doing whatever Iwant to do. So the idea of group
travel really scared me becauseI didn't want a schedule.
(08:01):
Because I don't travel likeanyone else. I don't I go. I
don't do anything. I don't needto do anything. You do things. I
do do things, but I don't needto do any things. Like, you
know, you travel with certainpeople. And like, the whole day
is planned. Your whole day isplanned away. They're like, we
have breakfast at 9am at thiscafe. We're gonna go to this
museum and that museum, andwe're gonna go to this and that,
(08:24):
and this and that, and then, youknow, I don't travel that way,
no, because I wake up at noonand I'm like, should we go to a
cafe today? There's an artmuseum I wanted to see, or a
library. I we do remember thatday we spent like, half a day in
a library, because it was just amagical experience. We went
library, the one in Budapest?
Rich (08:49):
Library, I don't remember, but it was the one that was a
bar. Was it a bar? We went to aplace we spent all day there?
Yeah, we're very intellectual,literary people. Were over here,
like, the library. I think it
Andrew (09:03):
was a bar. Okay, fine.
We're gonna have to think moreabout this, because I don't
actually remember. It wasn'tBudapest. I lied. It wasn't
Budapest, but there wassomewhere where we went that we
spent like five hours of our dayjust in a library. It's so
funny. It was like some oldhouse that they converted to a
library, and it was justbeautiful. No, it was Greece.
That's where it was. The librarywas in Greece, and I'm gonna
have to find it now, but Iremember spending a lot of time
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in it, but that's the travelerthat
Rich (09:27):
I am. We'll have to report back to you guys on that,
because I have no recollectionof this place. Apparently, I
thought we were in a bar, so who
Andrew (09:34):
knows? There probably was one there, because that's
what we do. That's
Rich (09:37):
definitely like a flip side for for solo travel,
though, is like, as fun as it issometimes to kind of go at your
own pace. Sometimes I need alittle bit of a schedule to,
like, force me to do something,because part of me really wants
to, like, live like a local andvisit a place like a local and
go sit in a cafe and go to arestaurant or a hole in the
wall, or a stroll just leisurelythrough the city. Yeah. And then
(10:00):
part of me is like, I want torun around and do 100 things and
see all the tourist stuff, andsee all the monuments and the
things people talk about,because, you know, you want to
feel like you've really beenthere and you've experienced it
all too, yeah. So I definitelygo back and forth on that.
Andrew (10:12):
But then there's a story that you have about that Airbnb,
that one time that justterrifies me and it lives in the
back of my brain. And so I
Rich (10:21):
think this is yeah. So that are you talking about the
birthday trip that you tellmattress? Yeah. Okay, yeah. So I
don't know if you guys are hotelpeople or Airbnb people. We're a
little bit of both. I would saywe definitely like to mix it up
and feel free to DM us orcomment and let us know what you
think about this, because somepeople are very much into
Airbnbs, and some people arenot. And after this trip, you
(10:43):
would think I wouldn't have beenanymore. This
Andrew (10:45):
story lives rent free in my brain every time we go to
Bucha, making it
Rich (10:49):
sound like it's that, like, hostile movie or
something. But, um, yeah, webasically it was my friend Linda
and I. It wasn't quite solotravel, but we were new hire
flight attendants. We had nomoney, and she's like, Oh, I
found this Airbnb inSwitzerland. It's only, like,
4040 francs a night orsomething. And I'm, you don't
know anything about Switzerland,and I'm like, that seems
(11:09):
reasonable. And I mean,Switzerland, everything is super
expensive, so the 40 Franks anight, or whatever it was,
should have been probably amajor red flag, but it wasn't,
for some reason. And so we getthere, and it's like, a two
bedroom apartment, and thislittle old lady who chain
smokes, like, opens the door andshe's like, I'm not even gonna
(11:33):
try to do an accent, actually,because I'm gonna ruin it. But I
was like, Oh, are we, like,interrupting this lady? Are we
with the wrong address? AndLinda's like, Oh, it's a shared
space Airbnb. And I was like, Ishared who what? Now I don't
think that this is for me, butalso, again, I'm a broke new
hire. I don't have any money, soI'm like, I don't know if this
is really a good idea or not,but we end up Linda and her
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bonded. Of course, they're bothsmoking and just having a great
time, like hanging out in thekitchen, drinking coffee,
smoking cigarettes. She showsthis to her bedroom, and it's
literally just this, like, emptyroom with these two red
mattresses on the floor, andthere were sheets, but the
mattresses reminded me of those,like, you know, in preschool,
when they have those, like,little folded up mats that, like
(12:17):
lay out for kids to nap on.
That's what it looked and feltlike,
Andrew (12:21):
Why do you think this lives weren't free every time I
smoke an Airbnb, yeah, I'm like,no shared spaces
Rich (12:26):
blue. I have serious transitions now. But and then,
oh, and the dog. There was adog. I forget it had, like, a
weird little Italian name too.
Like, I don't even, I know thatsounds crazy, but I don't
remember what the dog's namewas. Why? Why am I blanking on
what it was, but the importantfact, like little mafia dog,
but, like, literally, just runup and just bite your shin and
then be like, ah and just attackyou. So it was an experience. I
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went back to Switzerland. Turnedout I loved it when I went and
got my own accommodations. Butyeah, so I could see why people
are skeptical of solo travel. Doyou have any like crazy solo,
solo ish travel stories that youcan think of? Remember
Andrew (13:06):
that time we almost got murdered in Greece?
Rich (13:09):
Okay, we didn't almost get murdered in Greece. We didn't
know until afterwards, though,but we almost got murdered we
well, we might actually beaccomplices, is really what it
comes down to. So maybe weshouldn't air this episode, but
do tell us what happened.
Andrew (13:25):
Well, you remember, we had this lovely Airbnb in
Mykonos, and the owner wasdriving us to our boat to move
on to the next city, and we werethanking her for the
accommodations, and she waslike, oh yes, Mykonos, it's a
lovely city. You can be so freehere. It's one of the best
cities in Greece. And we wereChristina,
Unknown (13:45):
we love.
Andrew (13:46):
And she was just this, like, magical little woman. She
was beautiful. It was so nice.
And we were thanking her forallowing us to stay in the
property. And she was like, yes,my husband and I built it
together. We built a house forme, a house for him, and a house
for our daughter. And we werelike, Oh, we met your daughter.
Yeah, it was a beautifulproperty. We met your daughter.
We noticed that the two of youshare it. And she was like, Yes,
we do. My husband died as thelast nail was being put on the
(14:09):
final building. His ladder justfell, and he fell down the cliff
to his death. And we were like,what? She was like, Yes, I was
there. I watched the wholething. We were
Rich (14:21):
like, what she said so nonchalantly to us too, like,
while we were driving up thismassive Hill. And she was like,
yes, these three homes. And thenthey took many months. And my
husband, he worked so hard, andshe was just like, so late into
how dedicated the
Andrew (14:39):
life that I want to live. And Mykonos is so free and
so beautiful. You should movehere. You'll love it.
Unknown (14:46):
We were like, you know, maybe Christina,
don't ask us to build anythingso
Rich (14:53):
weird that, as the last nail was put in and the project
was complete, he fell. Down thehill, off the ladder, like it
was just one of those thingswhere we were like, story is a
little too convenient.
Christina, you're leaving outsome details, leaving out a lot.
Where's your husband, right?
Andrew (15:11):
And that's how the story of how we almost got murdered
and
Rich (15:15):
murdered and or maybe accomplices. TVD, we'll report
back on that. But yeah, so weare now going to talk about
group travel, because solotravel, as you can tell from
some of our experiences, maybewe'd be better off with someone
guiding us who's actually anexpert, and I think that's why
we started group travel. Butwhat, what were some of your
(15:37):
favorite things about travelingwith a group what did you love
about our trip to Bali? All
Andrew (15:43):
of it, every single piece of it. I cannot tell you
how magical. I mean, you werethere. You know how magical it
was? I do. I cannot expressenough how magical this
experience was for me. First ofall, you know how terrified I
was to go in the first place. Idid not want to go to group
travel. I don't have thetemperament for it, I am like an
angry cat most days. I like todo my own thing, and I need to
(16:06):
be fed every 20 minutes, and ifyou get too close to me, I will
scratch you. Just mytemperament. Just showing you
Rich (16:14):
as one of those like pissed off house cats is I'm
just gonna throw your phonesolid, accurate description of
you. I think I've ever heard,
Andrew (16:23):
I'm just an angry Yeah, all the time. It's pretty spot
on. So I was worried that Iwouldn't fit into the group, or,
like, it would be too much groupfor me, and it wasn't. I really.
I think we made smart decisionsand that we didn't try to fill
the day. There was plenty offree time. We had, like,
mornings, and there were, like,maybe one or two adventures
(16:44):
every day that encompass, likefour hours, and then we left
everyone free to do whateverthey wanted to do. And I just, I
really loved it. I keep saying Iwas surprised at the people that
showed up and how well we gottogether. I don't know why. I
mean, they follow us. Theyfollow our page. They're
following along in this humorousjourney. Obviously, they share
our humor, right? And eventhough we like left so much free
(17:07):
time if we weren't out doingsomething with them, we ended up
at a pool, drinking, hangingout. It was like the best
layover
Rich (17:13):
ever. Yeah, I think, I think you're right, and I I want
to go back to what you saidinitially about me being an
angry guy on an attention aboutbeing an angry cat because you
said something that you didn'twant to go initially. And I
think that's funny and also agood point, because as with most
of our ventures, I am very muchthe planner, planner instigator.
(17:37):
Doer, the instigator. Yeah, Iknow. What other words, can we
come up with for me? But I amusually the one that's like, oh,
I have this crazy idea. Want tohear it. And you're like, No, I
don't know, do I? And it'salways like, it doesn't matter,
anyway, you're gonna make me doit. And fortunately, for the
most part, it's worked outreally well. But I think I felt
the same way. I think, I thinktraveling with like minded
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people, it just sounded like toocool of an opportunity to pass
up. And I was like, we give onetrip a try. If it sucks, we
never do it again. And we didit, and we ended up loving it.
And I swear I wasn't a fan ofthe group travel idea, because I
really was just so nervous aboutjust so many things, all the
factors of like, what could gowrong, what could happen, what
could come up. And I reallyended up enjoying so many
(18:23):
different factors about it. Imean, I think the fact that we
got to pick our own itinerary,yeah, really helped a lot,
because I've always signed upfor other people's trips, and
you don't have control overthat. And obviously the people
that come on our trip arechoosing our itinerary that
we've already planned for you.
But I think the thing about
Andrew (18:42):
it we're learning them, and we're getting feedback from
people not too like the peoplethat are going we want your
feedback so we can tailor theseprevious
Rich (18:50):
people weigh in on some of our future itineraries. And
that's been a really coolexperience to kind of make
everybody feel like they're partof it. But I think the thing
about it is we want to kind ofhave a hybrid trip, like we want
those days where you've gotactivity after activity. We're
engaging in things, we'reimmersing in local culture,
we're trying new foods, we'redoing all these things. But we
(19:12):
also want people to havedowntime. We want there to be
downtime on the trip. We wanteverybody to kind of have a
chance to themselves, to go outand explore. Some people want to
go shopping. Some people want togo to a cafe, some people want
to go wine tasting and thingslike that. And I love these
trips because we've really likewe have the kind of trip where
we can have an audience ofpeople from 20 to 70 with all
(19:33):
different activity types, alldifferent body types, all
different ages, backgrounds,whatever. And there's something
for everybody,yes. And you know what I loved
most? You know what I found Ilove most about group travel or
these like plan trips, is thatyou just show up. Yeah, you just
show up and everything's done,you walk into an event space,
different for you, planning allof our adventures when
(19:54):
everything is to wait in line.
Her tickets, and I still have towait in line to get in. And,
like, none of those thingshappened here, like, you showed
up and someone handed youtickets, and we're like, we're
going through the specialentrance, and you're in, you're
You're in for it. And it wasn'tlike you were spending half of
the day waiting for waiting inline to go see something right
(20:19):
to get into a museum. Or, youknow, do you remember that day
solo travel? Do you rememberthat day we were at the louver,
and we spent all day. We spentlike, four hours in line to see
the Mona Lisa, and we got, like,as far as the room. I mean, the
louver is a very amazing place,but that is one of those tourist
things where you're like, I'm soglad I went, but I don't. I need
(20:41):
to go back when no one is there,no one night at the museum,
correct? Yes. It's just, you'rejust like, shoulder to shoulder
with people, and it's, it's alittle chaotic, but that was
that. I love that part. No, thelike plan, yes, just show up
there, yes. And then it's like,show for dinner, and tables are
reserved. They're like, comeright in. Let's have dinner.
Show up in the lobby. If youthink about nothing, you didn't
(21:03):
even have to, like, order food.
Most of the time, like, platesjust appeared in front of you,
plates of delicious food. Sodelicious things I wouldn't have
ordered because,you know, I know that's so true.
You go to a restaurant on a soloYes, and you're like, I don't
know what to order. What am Idoing? But you go to some
restaurant on one of thesetrips, yes, and you've got your
like in somebody's house, likethe tuna
Andrew (21:23):
in the banana leaf that we had in Bali. It was so good,
Rich (21:27):
absolutely. I loved that, because we tried so many foods.
And you know me, I'm I say I'madventurous, but I'm not. I'm
picky as hell. And when it cameto food, I was like, All right,
I'll just eat whatever they putin front of me, even if I like
it or don't like it or itdoesn't look good. And I loved
every bit. It was so good. Iremember that one meal we had
the suckling pig, if you weresitting over there sweating,
(21:48):
rich does not eat spices. Richdoes not eat spices. He is,
like, dripping water. I amsweating so hard in Bali, it's
already humid and, like, reallywarm, and then I'm eating this
spicy suckling pig. I mean, itliterally looked like he
Andrew (22:01):
was crying out of his forehead. He was like, dripping
from the heat. I was like, I wasproud of you.
Rich (22:06):
I was like, everyone was like, are you okay? And I was
like, it's delicious. Oh, myGod, that was so much fun.
Another thing I love about grouptravel, aside from being able to
just kind of do, like, just showup and be part of something is I
also really love, like thesafety aspect of it, like, we're
going to Egypt later this year,and a lot of people signed up
(22:28):
for that trip so quickly becausethey were saying to us, I've
wanted to go there forever, andI was worried about being a
queer person going alone, orbeing a woman traveling alone,
and I just feel so much moresafe in a group of people with
an expert, trusted local guide.
And that's one thing that I'mlike, Okay, now let's pick
destinations where, like, peopledon't, you know, need support
(22:50):
and community and that sort ofthing. And I love this because I
think everyone's gonna have anincredible time, everyone's
gonna be supported, everyone'sgonna feel together on this
trip. And
Andrew (23:00):
truthfully, we agree with you, particularly in Egypt.
How many times have we plannedand canceled a trip because we
were like, is it the right time?
Is it safe for us to be there?
Like, should we actually go? Andwe have no qualms this time. I
mean, we're very excited to gofor that, the safety aspect of
it. So why travel with us? Rich?
We have three trips planned. Nowwe do have three trips planned,
Rich (23:23):
and I they're gonna be so much fun. And I just think that
traveling, you know, with thisgroup of people, especially
because half the people on ournext few trips have already been
on trips with us, so we canactually, quite literally,
guarantee that we know these aregreat people. And I just, I love
it, because it's like built infriends. And I know that sounds
so cliche and so cheesy, butlike I said earlier, if you
(23:45):
follow two guys on a plane andyou like us enough to come on a
group trip with us, you'reprobably funny, you probably
have a great sense of humor,you're probably smart, and you
probably love immersing in localculture and having a good time,
and you definitely love a goodlayover. You definitely love a
good layover. This is like theultimate layover, and that's why
you should travel with
Andrew (24:06):
this. And I promise I'll only maybe angry cat you. I
can't promise I won't do it, butyeah, but
Rich (24:11):
we do currently have three trips available. We have
Croatia, Egypt and Thailand, andall three of them are going to
be amazing adventures. And wereally hope you'll join us. If
you want more information aboutthese upcoming trips, please go
to two guys on aplane.com/travel. And check it
out. Check out the itineraries,and feel free to DM us if you
have any questions. We arealways happy to talk about
(24:32):
travel, and we're for sure,going to do more trips. So if
none of these trips work foryou, stay tuned and subscribe to
our email list. We willdefinitely let you know when our
next adventure is planned. Allright. And before we go, we
wanted to do a quick littlesegment called, What would two
guys do? WW, two. Gd, so this iswhere we read stories from you
guys out loud on the podcast,and then tell you what we would
(24:55):
do in that situation. So feelfree to send us your stories. We
love reading them. So. This oneis from Tina. She's from
Belgium, and she was flying tothe Dominican Republic. She
said, a few years ago, I workeda flight where we had to perform
CPR, and a passenger whileflying over the Atlantic Ocean,
yikes. The man came to usclaiming he wasn't feeling well
(25:15):
and was suffering from pressureon his chest. He eventually
became unresponsive and stoppedbreathing. So we immediately
started CPR. Flight crew wasinformed, and we had at least an
hour to go to the nearestairport to divert this man's
wife was inconsolable, so acolleague stayed with her for
comfort as we were working onher husband. Eventually, we were
able to land and hand thepatient over to ambulance
(25:36):
personnel before they left, oneof my colleagues gave her phone
number to the wife, saying shewould call if the doctors needed
any extra information on whathappened in flight. She also
asked the wife that if she wasup for it, to let us know
afterwards if her husband wasokay. We ended up not hearing
anything for a couple of weeks,until she got a message from an
unknown number. Well, it was thewife letting us know her husband
pulled through and was releasedfrom hospital earlier that week,
(25:59):
after some back and forth, sheinformed us they would try and
take their trip to the DominicanRepublic once again later that
year, if there was anypossibility that any of us would
be working that flight again.
She said her husband wasreluctant to get on a plane, but
he would feel better if he knewthis is so sweet, I'm gonna cry,
if he knew that the same crewwould be with them again. We
discussed it with head officeand were able to plan that the
(26:19):
three of us in the fight thatthe couple was taking would be
there. They came on board withtwo whole bags of gifts for us,
took pictures with us, and wroteus a very emotional letter,
thanking us for our work on thatunfortunate day, they told us
all about the plans they hadwhile on holiday. I'm definitely
tearing up over here. And thehusband thanked us for giving
him a second chance at life.
(26:41):
I've never cried so many tearsof happiness. Oh,
Andrew (26:43):
I bet, wow. We don't ever know that is, that's an
incredible story, and we don'tever hear don't
Rich (26:49):
That's wild. Yeah, for those of you who aren't flight
attendants, like medicalemergencies, obviously are so
stressful, but a lot of times,whether you know, we get the
outcome of what passengersituation on the flight or not?
It's it's always uncertain whathappens to them once they leave
the aircraft and they're out ofour hands, yeah, and so the fact
that they got this much, I mean,closure almost, you know, right?
(27:11):
Because it's so traumatic whenthese things happen. You You
don't know what happened. Andthat is such a beautiful story,
such
Andrew (27:17):
a beautiful story. Kudos to Tina and her crew for taking
such good care of you, andyou're a better human than I am,
because I would not have signedup for round two of that. Who
wouldn't have done it? No, Iwouldn't have signed up for
round two. It would have beenno, but kudos to you all,
because that is a beautifulstory, and I'm glad that you got
(27:37):
to find out and see them again.
And I really love how that storyended, because I saw that going
a different way, and I was readyto be like, No,
Rich (27:46):
I know that is an amazing story. Keep sending us your
stories. If you go to two guyson a plane.com/podcast, you'll
see a section where you cansubmit your stories about
anything that happened to you ona flight, whether it was
humorous or heartfelt. We wantto hear it all. Keep sending us
your stories and thank you guysso much for your support. We
recently started a Patreoncommunity online which is chock
(28:06):
full of behind the scenesfootage, early access to
episodes, exclusive podcastmerch, and so so much more.
Every bit of support that youguys can send our way means so
much. We could not do thispodcast without you. Literally
could not thank you for yoursupport.
Andrew (28:21):
Thank you guys for everything. We appreciate it.
Well, friends, that's all fortoday. Join us next time for
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