August 1, 2025 • 42 mins
In this special solo-hosted episode of Unrelated Sisters: Truth & Grace Conversation, Shannon takes you on a heartfelt journey through the first 14 episodes of the podcast. From uncovering your true identity in Christ to navigating forgiveness, battling depression, celebrating God’s love, and preparing your heart for His presence — this is a spirit-filled moment of gratitude, reflection, and renewed encouragement. Whether you've listened to every episode or you're just joining us, this episode will remind you that God is faithful, intentional, and always at work.
Prayer:
Father God,
We thank You for every story, every episode, every woman and man who has tuned in to Unrelated Sisters. Lord, You have met us in our weakness, our joy, our waiting, our pain. You’ve reminded us over and over again that You are faithful.
I lift up every listener right now — meet them exactly where they are. Whisper truth into their hearts. Wash them with grace. Strengthen them for the journey ahead. And Lord, let this podcast continue to be a space where You are glorified and Your daughters and sons are loved well.
In Jesus’ name,
Amen.
Bible Emergency Numbers:
When in sorrow: John 14
When you are worried: Matthew 6:19-34
When God seems far away: Psalm 139
Music:
Come to the Table- Sidewalk Prophets
Feels to be Free- Steven Malcolm & Sanctus Real
The Truth- Megan Woods
What If- Consumed By Fire
We can't thank God and the listeners enough. I am so blessed and humbled. To God be the Glory!
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SPEAKER_00 (00:02):
Dear Lord, thank you for this day.
Thank you for your mercy andyour blessings.
We just want to take today andwe just want to thank you and to
praise you and to give you allthe glory.
Not only have you given us thisopportunity, but you have helped
us to find ways of healing inways that we didn't know that we
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needed.
Me and Deb are so grateful, andwe are so full of gratitude for
the opportunity to pour intoother women and men who are
going to or are going throughsome of the things that we went
through, Lord Jesus.
And today, we just want toglorify you and give you all the
glory.
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In Jesus' name we pray.
Amen.
Hey, everybody, and welcome backto Unrelated Sisters Truth and
Grace Conversation.
I'm your host, Shannon, andtoday is a special one.
This is episode 15.
Can you believe it?
Time has truly flown by, and asI sit here solo while my amazing
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co-host Deb enjoys a much-neededbeach vacation, I'm filled with
gratitude, awe, and joyreflecting on what God has done.
Whether you've been with us fromday one or you just found us,
this moment is for you.
This episode is a pause in therhythm, a slight breath, to look
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back and say, God, we thank you.
To every listener, every woman,man who has cried with us,
laughed with us, or whispered aprayer because of something she
heard, this one is for you.
Let's celebrate the journey,reflect on His faithfulness, and
remember the truth and gracethat has carried us through it.
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So, you know, let's take asecond and let's just talk about
some things.
So, our very first episode, YourIdentity and Cross.
You know, we kick things off bytalking about where our true
worth lies, and not in what Wedo or wear or achieve or not,
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you know, but who we are inJesus.
We reminded ourselves that beingchosen, loved, redeemed and seen
by God is the most unshapeabletruth of all.
But let's just talk about it.
Like we released our firstepisode on April the 25th of
2025 this year, and we have done14 episodes this year.
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episode here will be our 15thepisode.
We've had 448 downloads.
We are in 10 countries and 80cities in the United States.
And whether they've listened toone episode or they've listened
to five episodes or you'velistened to all 15 episodes, I'm
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so grateful.
that you have chosen to listento us.
I am so thankful that God hasbrought you to us.
I hope and I pray every day overeach and every one of you.
I may not know your name and Imay not know what you're going
through, but there's a prayerset for this podcast and for the
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listeners of this podcast everyday.
We are so humbled that you havegiven us this opportunity to
talk to you and for you tolisten and i and i think i can
speak for deb as much as me buti have felt these episodes just
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as healing for myself as it hasbeen for the people that have
reached out to us and texted usand told us how you know,
thanking us for doing this andfor, you know, being the hands
and feet of Jesus and for justgiving that moment back.
You know, your identity inChrist is where it all starts.
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And I think about it, you know,I think I've been here lately,
I've been trying to find thedifference between hope and joy.
And between happy and joy.
And there's a true difference.
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You can be happy in life and nothave true joy.
And finding true joy is thegrace of God.
God's grace is the one thingthat will give you true joy.
When you wake up and you realizethat no matter what you have
done, no matter what you haveseen, what you have said, what
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you have done to other people,what you have done to God, that
He will love you.
And He loves you.
And He loves you where you are.
And He loves you enough to notkeep you where you are if you
want to give Him theopportunity.
You know, the next episode, wetalked about chains we don't
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talk about.
And it was a deep dive.
From addiction to shame, pasthurts to secret struggles, we
boldly brought light to whattries to keep us bound in the
darkness, bound in the darkness.
And, you know, everybody has apast.
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Everybody has done things thatthey're not happy about that
they've done.
They've done things that they'reashamed of.
They've tweeted someone acertain way or they've talked
about somebody a certain way, itmay not be as deep and dark as
addiction.
And it may not be the shame thatI went through or the struggles
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that I went through, but you'vehad struggles.
We're human.
We've all had struggles.
And sometimes we think we getthrough it.
And Deb said in one of these, inthis episode, she said that her
dad always says, I don't know.
Why don't you pick the chainback up and play with it, right?
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And we do that.
We do that a lot.
Like, we, you know, we thinkwe're through it.
We think we're over it.
And we think we're done with it.
And then, oh, let's just playwith it just a little bit more,
right?
And so, you know, chains that wedon't talk about, the people,
You know, it brought boldness.
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We had a lot of comments.
A lot of people texted us beinglike, oh my God, that's what I
do.
You know, I let it go.
And then, you know, and thenjust one day I want to play with
it.
And it's just, you know, and thedifferent things.
And then the next episode,episode three, we talked about
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forgiveness and You know,forgiveness was hard for me.
It's still hard for me.
It was hard to let go of things.
It was hard to, you know,instead of forgiving somebody, I
would rather just pretend likeit didn't happen.
Yeah.
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Instead of talking aboutsomething, I would rather
pretend like it didn't happen.
So, you know, that episodetouched so many people, you
know, because it's hard whensomeone has hurt you, whether
it's mentally or physically.
It's hard to let go and it'shard to forgive.
But the one thing that we wantedto stress in that episode is
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that, you know, to find freedom,it comes from letting go.
And not for them, but for you.
Forgiveness is hard.
But if you don't forgive, it'llharden your heart.
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But forgiveness is hard, butit's holy at the same time.
And you do it more for you thanyou do for the people that have
hurt you or wronged you.
You know, those first threeepisodes, they were very, I was
so excited when we started thispodcast.
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And I could just hear every,like every week I could hear God
telling me what to say, tellingme what to talk about.
And I think that I've alwayswanted to, I've always wanted to
share my story, but I've I'vealways seen sharing my story in
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a different way.
I used to sit and think aboutwhat would I say if I shared my
story, but I wanted to tell thestory.
But telling the story isn'tsharing my story, but showing
the grace that God gave me bysharing my story.
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The next few episodes, we duginto God in the details.
And sometimes you have to get alittle honest about who you are.
You have to get a little honestabout who you are in Christ.
You have to get a little bit ofhonesty about what we do.
God gives us truth.
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A blueprint.
Your Bible is a blueprint forwhat's happening, what's going
to happen, and how to deal witheverything.
But we want to come to God whenwe need Him and not be bothered
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with Him when we don't need Him,when everything is so good.
It's like we forget sometimesthat it's good because of him,
right?
So we talked about are you highmaintenance?
You know, and we make jokes andwe kind of laugh because, you
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know, Deb is one of those.
She gets up and she fixes herhair and she puts on the makeup
and she likes to have her toesdone and she, you know, she's
world, you know, and physicallyshe's high maintenance, right?
But that wasn't what we weretalking about.
We were talking about yourspiritual hot magnets.
Like, if we would spend 15 lessminutes getting ready to go out
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into the world, could we spendthat 15 minutes with God?
You know, and do we demand fromGod without giving Him?
what He wants, right, withoutgiving Him our heart.
And truly, that's all He wants,right?
I mean, as a mother, all Iwanted, all I've ever wanted was
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for something to love me as muchas I love it, right?
And I've told the story.
I truly believe that that's whyGod gave me my son.
It's because He knew that's theone thing that I wanted.
I just wanted somebody to loveme.
That's all.
That's all I've ever wanted.
Somebody to love me withoutconditions.
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But it's hard to have thatspiritual maintenance.
I am squirrely, if you askpeople that know me.
I am very squirrely.
I am easily distracted.
So sitting down and reading theBible for 20 or 30 minutes a day
or 10 or 15 minutes a day ishard for me.
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My brain wants to go otherplaces, and I know that I should
be able to do it.
But boy, I can sit and talk tohim for 20 or 30 minutes.
Like, I can just sit and have aconversation.
Just don't expect me tocomprehend what I'm reading.
One of the— One of my associatesthat worked for me last
Christmas, he purchased, hebought me a Bible and it's a
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women's study Bible.
And in the margins, it haspictures that you can color
while you're studying yourBible.
And that was probably one of thebest gifts I've ever received.
It definitely helps me to digmore into the Bible.
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It keeps me focused because Ican read and then color a little
bit.
And then I can read and I cancolor a little bit.
And coloring has always kept mecentered.
Our next episode was Open Wind,God's Letters to Us.
You know, we went through...
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His truth for every season,right?
There's so many seasons in lifethat you go through.
And some of them you go throughmore than one time.
Some of them you go through, youthink you've come out of it and
you're really not done.
You know, when you're in aseason, you're climbing up the
mountain, right?
And you're trying to get to thetop.
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But then it's a season comingdown, right?
And you have to, you know,there's a song, Flowers, you
know, and she's asking God, why?
And you have to remember Histruth during those times.
You know, and He says, trust me,I'm a good gardener, right?
I'm planting the seeds.
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I'm holding the water can, youknow.
So He's getting you ready.
So You know, we talked aboutseasons of being tired and lost,
waiting and ready to give up.
God's Word speaks, and we openedit together, right?
So, open wind, open.
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came from listening to the radiowhere the DJ was talking about
her son graduating this year andgoing off to college.
And, you know, he was theoldest.
He's the first of her kids to goaway, to leave home, to go to
college.
And, you know, she was like, Youknow, I want to do something
special for him.
And one of the listeners calledme, and she said that when her
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first kid went to, when he leftfor college, that she sat down
and she wrote him some letters.
And it would say, open whenyou're lonely.
Open when you're hungry.
Open when you're homesick.
And there would be a littleletter, a little note in there
from her, you know, withaffirmation and with
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encouragement.
and letting him know that sheloved him.
And then when you're hungry,there was a gift card.
When you're lonely, there was, Idon't know, like a fun card so
we could call home or whatever,just different little things
like that.
And God left us letters justlike that in the Bible.
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Open when.
Yeah.
You know, I have a little cardand it says Bible emergency
numbers.
So when in sorrow, read John 14.
When man fails you, Psalms 27.
When you have a worry, Matthew6, 19 through 34.
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When you're in danger, Psalms91.
When God seems far away, Psalms139.
You know, those are just a fewof the letters that God has left
us.
Our next episode was theblessing inventory.
And it reminded us thatgratitude isn't about big,
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flashy miracles.
It's about counting breaths,hugs, healing and sunrises.
It's the small things that makeour lives holy.
You know, we don't live in atime of sadness.
David and the giant.
We don't live in the time ofDavid, you know, in the lion's
den or Paul and Joe or James,you know, the fish, you know,
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fishing all night long and then,you know, not catching anything
and then having more than theycould catch.
You know, we don't live in atime of two fish and two loaves
and feeding 5,000 people.
But do we?
Like, you know, I don't think mypodcast is going to feed 5,000
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people.
Fish or bread.
But I do believe it's going totouch the people that God wants
it to touch.
And I do believe that taking thetime to share my story and
taking the time to talk aboutreal life and being raw and
honest about it, I do believethat that is a small blessing,
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right?
We talked about...
The things that we don'tappreciate, right?
Like I don't always appreciatemy husband for all the yard work
that he does.
Like he spends a lot of timetaking care of our yard.
And he loves doing it.
And that's why he does it untilsomebody that's never been here
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comes over.
And then they talk about howbeautiful it is and how gorgeous
it is.
You know, and that's, you know,that's a small blessing.
Right.
Not everybody has that.
Not everybody has a husband thatcares enough to plant Bermuda
grass and plant differentflowers every season.
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You know, he takes me to thewaves and I pick them all up and
things like that.
You know, we just got back fromthe beach and we went fishing.
We had some couples come up andspend a couple days with us, and
we got up every morning, and wewent and had breakfast together.
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And then we went back to theroom, and he got ready, and he
left with his buddy and went andplayed golf.
And I went home to the beach,and I got in my chair, and I
listened to podcasts, and Ilistened to the ocean, and I
spent some time with God, whichis what I enjoy most.
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And then I was asked, well, doesit not upset you that you're on
vacation together and he wantsto go play golf with his
buddies?
No, not really.
Because we would have went tothe beach and he would have
frustrated me, right?
Because I love my husband, buthe doesn't want to sit still.
He's good for about 10 minutesand then he wants to do
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something.
So he'd be wanting to play inthe sand or play in the water
and he'd be wanting to get up.
He'd be wanting to do this.
He'd be wanting...
And that's not what I wanted todo, right?
I wanted to spend, I needed tospend some me and Jesus time.
I mean, that's what I needed.
I was feeling burnt out.
I was feeling neglected.
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I was feeling tired.
I was feeling empty.
You know, I was feeling allthese things and that's what I
needed.
And, you know, I'm thankful andgrateful that my husband gives
me the time when I need it themost.
You know, He gives me what Ineed.
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The next couple, the next threeepisodes that we did, you know,
we started talking about whenlife gets heavy.
That next episode, when thehouse feels heavy.
That was the week that We kepttrying to do the silent battle,
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which is the episode that weactually did after when the
house feels heavy.
That was the week that Icouldn't hear God.
That was the week that...
My partner needed to getsomething off her chest, and she
needed to talk about it.
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We talked about emotionalclutter and mental awareness and
spiritual distance.
We invited God back into ourlives and into our homes.
We talked about how sometimes welet things in.
And we don't even realize it.
And we don't even see what'shappening until it's already
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starting to start.
And you have to be aware of yoursurroundings.
And you have to be aware ofwhere you're at.
And sometimes, I don't know,sometimes it's hard.
There's so much chatter in theworld today.
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And there's so much...
negativity in the world todayand there's it's in the palm of
your hands like I think theworld has always had its issues
right it's always had itsproblems it's always it's always
been very heavy but it wasdifferent because it wasn't
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right there like you had to waitto the six o'clock news to find
out what was going on now it'sin the palm of your hands so you
know But we talked aboutemotional clutter and about, you
know, just being lost.
That's what we talked about.
The next episode was the silentbattle.
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And that was probably one of themost vulnerable episodes for us.
Deb opened up about herdepression, her anxiety.
attempted suicides, she openedup how it didn't just affect
her, but it affected her family,and that every time that
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something happened, it wasalways a big movement for her
family, and the devil would beat his strongest.
We talked about faith and hope,and we talked about how silence
doesn't mean absence, right?
Sometimes when God is silent,He's just sitting there waiting.
Sometimes you don't want to hearit.
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Sometimes you just want somebodyto listen.
You talk about something.
You don't want nobody's opinion.
You don't want to know what theyhave to say about it.
Most of the time, you alreadyknow how they feel about it.
Sometimes it just needs to sitthere.
Jesus will sit in the darknesswith us.
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He will sit there right next tous while we are in our darkness.
And He will slowly shine a lighton you.
And you will feel it.
And you can feel His presence.
You just have to ask for it.
And then we talked about, isyour house ready?
So we reminded us to not onlyprepare for blessings, but
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prepare for His presence.
It was about getting spirituallydressed for eternity.
Now.
So we compared this to...
This OCD.
app that I have.
Anytime anyone's coming to myhouse, I have to clean my
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kitchen and I have to wipe downall my counters and I have to
wipe down all my tables and Ihave to vacuum my floor and I
have to spot mop it and makesure there's no spots.
Everything has to be in itsplace and there can't be, like
right now, there's shoes on thefloor and there's probably a
shirt laying across the couch.
The blanket's not folded and putwhere it's supposed to be.
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It's just kind of laying on thecouch Because nobody's here but
me, right?
And nobody's, no company'scoming.
But when company comes, I mean,what's the first thing you do?
You clean your house, right?
You don't want anybody to walkin and think, oh, that's dirty.
Or, oh, that's cluttered.
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Or, oh, that's disorganized.
You know, you just don't wantthat.
And I do it at work, too.
I clean my office constantly atwork because I don't want people
to come in.
And I am the most disorganizedperson that you'll ever meet
most of the time.
But it is what it is.
But is your house ready?
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And it wasn't about yourphysical house being ready.
It was about, is your heartready?
If Jesus knocked today and said,it's time to come home, are you
ready to come home?
Are you ready to stand in frontof Jesus?
Are you ready?
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If you had asked me thisquestion 15 years ago, I would
have been so full of shame.
I would not have been ready.
If you had asked me this 10years ago, and I will be married
10 years in October, I stilldon't think I was completely
ready.
I still had a lot of skeletonsin my closet.
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I still had a lot of hurt andtrauma to deal with.
Am I ready today?
I am.
I am ready.
I know He loves me.
I know He loves me for who I am.
I know that He has given megrace and that He has given me
gratitude and that He hashumbled me in so many ways.
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And that...
So yeah, I'm ready.
I'm ready to stand before Him.
I'm ready.
The song says, am I going todance with you, Jesus?
Am I going to have anything tosay?
I don't know.
Or am I just going to be in aweof you?
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Part four, the next few, wetalked about who you are and who
He is.
We followed up with more thanenough.
You know, where we dismantledcomparison and insecurities, you
know, our youth of today, ouryounger generations, you know,
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and I'm not talking abouteight-year-olds.
I'm talking about 12-year-olds,13-year-olds, 14-year-olds.
I'm talking about 20, 21, 22,women in their 30s, right?
Like...
Comparison and insecurities arewhat they are, right?
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You have been born into ageneration where everything is
at your hands.
Everything is in the palm ofyour hands.
You can see what all the richare doing.
It's not just Hollywood, but yousee everything.
Everybody, you know, people are,their lives are on Facebook and
Twitter and Instagram andeverybody's so happy and they're
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always so positive andeverything is so wonderful.
But where's your heart?
You know, when we first startedthis episode, I told you that
I've been trying to, I've beenworking on you know, having
happiness and finding true joyin my life.
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And, you know, my true joydefinitely comes from Jesus.
And insecurities and comparisonwill take your joy.
And no one or nothing deservesyour joy.
Your joy is yours and yoursalone.
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So then came, maybe you're theblessing.
You know, I did this episodewith Haley Lewis, the founder of
Hud's Heart.
And, you know, it still justgives me some kind of chill to
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think about me being somebody'sblessing, right?
Yeah.
i get it i pray with people allthe time and you know and i do
nice things for people like ipay for their meal um you know i
just uh bought a kid and who'sbeen in foster care for uh for
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15 of his 17 years and i justbought him a brand new nice
backpack a laptop, some pens andsome pencils and some paper and
just a few necessities becausehe got a full scholarship to a
college.
And I wanted him to have what heneeded to succeed because he has
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taken the opportunity to breakthose generational curses.
He wants to be better than wherehe came from.
And I want him to have all theopportunities that everyone else
has.
And we've actually been buyingthis kid a backpack for the last
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three years.
And when we gave it to him, theywere like, usually the college
kids don't get nothing.
And I'm like, he deserves it.
He deserves it.
He deserves everything that he'sgetting.
But we were fraying.
what it means to be strong.
You know, the world saysstrength is dominance, and God
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says that it's discernment.
And maybe your heaviness isproof of your calling, right?
So discernment, you know, Haleytalked about the yes,
discernment, and about how inministry sometimes you want to
say yes because you can, but youneed to ask, is this right?
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Is this my blessing to give oris it somebody else's?
Because you definitely don'twant to take someone else's
blessing.
And I'll list the other threequestions in the description
below.
And then came Agape Love.
And when Debra brought AgapeLove to me, I Googled it and it
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did not...
Its definition of Agape Love wasnot...
the definition that we werelooking for.
But we dove into God's kind oflove.
Non-conditional, not based onany behavior, but covenant,
eternal, and pursuing.
Unconditional.
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There's no conditions to God'slove other than you love Him.
And people say, well, I'm notever going to be different.
I'm not ever going to bedifferent.
That's why I don't want to be aChristian, or that's why I don't
want to love Jesus, because I'mnot ever going to change.
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I used to be one of those.
I used to always say that I'dsmoke pot till the day I die.
I'd get high.
smoking pot every day until theday I die.
Like, I will never give upsmoking pot.
I like the way it makes me feel.
I like how it calms me down.
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You know, I will never quitsmoking pot.
Then I got clean, right?
And I quit meth.
And then, you know, I stilldrank.
I still smoked a little pot.
You know, on and on.
But Then I felt Jesus and Itruly was humbled and given
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grace and I haven't thoughtabout smoking pot in a long
time.
You know, I haven't thoughtabout it because it's not about
what I've done.
It's about finding peace.
You don't find peace with drugsand you don't find peace out in
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the world and you don't findpeace searching around.
You find peace when you hit yourknees and you talk to God.
The wait and the witness.
Our next stop was, what are youwaiting on?
I've been trying to dig moreinto the Bible, right?
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And we've talked about this.
And so what are you waiting onwas a look into the 400 years of
biblical silence and how evenwhen God seems quiet, He is
never still.
He is always working.
So in the 400 years of biblicalsilence, that's the time that
Moses and the Israelites werewandering around in Egypt,
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wandering around in the desertafter leaving Egypt.
And And every time they werealmost to where they were
supposed to be, they would startgrumbling or griping,
complaining, whining about, youknow, where is God?
What is he doing?
Blah, you know, just ugh kind ofthings.
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And, you know, we broke it down.
And during this time when all ofthis was going on in history,
the Romans were coming in.
They were building roads.
They were buildinginfrastructure.
They were building all of thecities.
And they were preparing theworld for Jesus, even though
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they didn't know this.
But that's what they were doing.
And the Israelites couldn't takethe moment to figure that out,
that Jesus was coming.
So when he came...
He didn't have to wander aroundin the desert.
He was able to walk on roadsfrom city to city, and he was
able to have housing, and therewas wells dug, so there was
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water, and there was, you know,there were cities, and there was
things to trade, and there wasjust, it was a lot easier than
it would have been if he wouldhave came before during those
times.
You know, And then our final andlatest episode is one that I
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believe will touch so manypeople's hearts, so many
people's minds.
I believe that it is aGod-filled testimony.
My God is faithful, the heart'sstory.
Haley, the host that helped meto do Baby, You're the Blessing,
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she told her story, hertestimony of her son, Hudson,
and how, you know, how it,Haley's testimony, it's real,
it's raw, and it's redemptive.
When she talks about Hudson andshe talks about what her and
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Joey went through, it'sheartfelt, right?
It's definitely, yeah, It'sdefinitely a sad story to hear.
But at the same time, you know,it reminds us that God doesn't
just bring beauty.
That God doesn't just bringbeauty from ashes.
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He builds ministry from them,right?
Haley dove into her faith whenshe was going through all that
and dug into God and said, Hehelped her through it, and he
helped her to come out of it onthe other side stronger and more
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anointed and more in her faith.
Haley is probably one of thestrongest women that I have ever
met, and I feel very blessed tohave met her and to have her in
this journey with me.
from now until whenever and inthe season of my life.
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So that's all 14 episodes.
And if you haven't listened toany of them, if you've only
listened to one of them, ifyou...
heard something today that makesyou want to go back and listen
to another one please do ifyou've heard something today
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about one of the episodes thatyou think you know someone that
needs to hear please pleaseshare the podcast with everyone
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We've posted every episode toour Facebook page.
Drop us a line.
Find us on TikTok.
I'm not very good at posting onTikTok.
I'm trying to be better.
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You know, God has been on meabout making some videos and
introducing ourselves to theworld, and I'm not ready.
But you know, I'm not usuallyready when He wants me to do
something.
So I want y'all to...
So here's the heart of today'sepisode.
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We're not just making a podcast.
We're building a community oftruth and grace.
I'm not perfect.
I don't have it all together.
But I show up and I tell thetruth.
Me and Deborah, we cry, welaugh, we trust in God together.
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And it seems every week to workitself out.
It just seems to be what it'ssupposed to be.
And the months before we startedthis, that's all I prayed.
Let it be what you want it tobe.
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Let us be your hands and feet.
Give us what you want us to talkabout.
And there's some weeks I knowexactly where we're headed.
And then there's some weeks Idon't know until the day before
we post it, where we're headed.
To every person listening, manor woman, I want you to know
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you're not alone.
You're not forgotten, and youare not too much or not enough.
You are my sister and my brotherin this house of faith, and this
podcast is your seat at thetable.
This is your outlet.
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If you want to tell your story,contact me.
Let's tell your story.
If there's a topic that you wantus to talk about, tell us.
I'll pray on it.
And it may not be today'sepisode.
It may not be next week'sepisode.
Because some of these episodeswe recorded first, but it wasn't
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the one to release.
Everything we pray, we pray foreverything that we do.
You know, I just want to thankyou for spending this reflection
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moment with me.
It's been an honor to grow,learn, and worship alongside
each and every one of you.
And Deb, if you're listeningfrom your vacation spot, we love
you and I miss you.
If this episode has blessed you,please share it.
Leave a review.
Don't forget to connect with uson Facebook and TikTok,
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Unrelated Sisters Truth andGrace Podcast.
We want to hear your stories,your struggles, and your
testimonies.
Father God, we thank you forevery story, every episode,
every man and woman who hastuned in to Unrelated Sisters.
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Lord, you have met us in ourweakness, our joy, our waiting,
and our pain.
You've reminded us over and overand over again that you are
faithful.
I lift up every listener rightnow.
Meet her, him exactly where theyare.
Whisper truth into their hearts.
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Wash them with grace.
Strengthen them for the journeyahead.
And Lord, let this podcastcontinue to be a space where you
are glorified and your daughtersand sons are loved.
Lord Jesus, I am so humbled.
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I'm so grateful.
And we give you all the glory.
In Jesus' name we pray.
Amen.
Until next time, keep walking intruth, keep resting in grace,
and remember, you're not aloneand God's not done with you yet.
We love you.
Dear Lord, thank you for this day.
Thank you for your mercy andyour blessings.
We just want to take today andwe just want to thank you and to
praise you and to give you allthe glory.
Not only have you given us thisopportunity, but you have helped
us to find ways of healing inways that we didn't know that we
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needed.
Me and Deb are so grateful, andwe are so full of gratitude for
the opportunity to pour intoother women and men who are
going to or are going throughsome of the things that we went
through, Lord Jesus.
And today, we just want toglorify you and give you all the
glory.
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In Jesus' name we pray.
Amen.
Hey, everybody, and welcome backto Unrelated Sisters Truth and
Grace Conversation.
I'm your host, Shannon, andtoday is a special one.
This is episode 15.
Can you believe it?
Time has truly flown by, and asI sit here solo while my amazing
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co-host Deb enjoys a much-neededbeach vacation, I'm filled with
gratitude, awe, and joyreflecting on what God has done.
Whether you've been with us fromday one or you just found us,
this moment is for you.
This episode is a pause in therhythm, a slight breath, to look
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back and say, God, we thank you.
To every listener, every woman,man who has cried with us,
laughed with us, or whispered aprayer because of something she
heard, this one is for you.
Let's celebrate the journey,reflect on His faithfulness, and
remember the truth and gracethat has carried us through it.
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So, you know, let's take asecond and let's just talk about
some things.
So, our very first episode, YourIdentity and Cross.
You know, we kick things off bytalking about where our true
worth lies, and not in what Wedo or wear or achieve or not,
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you know, but who we are inJesus.
We reminded ourselves that beingchosen, loved, redeemed and seen
by God is the most unshapeabletruth of all.
But let's just talk about it.
Like we released our firstepisode on April the 25th of
2025 this year, and we have done14 episodes this year.
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episode here will be our 15thepisode.
We've had 448 downloads.
We are in 10 countries and 80cities in the United States.
And whether they've listened toone episode or they've listened
to five episodes or you'velistened to all 15 episodes, I'm
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so grateful.
that you have chosen to listento us.
I am so thankful that God hasbrought you to us.
I hope and I pray every day overeach and every one of you.
I may not know your name and Imay not know what you're going
through, but there's a prayerset for this podcast and for the
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listeners of this podcast everyday.
We are so humbled that you havegiven us this opportunity to
talk to you and for you tolisten and i and i think i can
speak for deb as much as me buti have felt these episodes just
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as healing for myself as it hasbeen for the people that have
reached out to us and texted usand told us how you know,
thanking us for doing this andfor, you know, being the hands
and feet of Jesus and for justgiving that moment back.
You know, your identity inChrist is where it all starts.
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And I think about it, you know,I think I've been here lately,
I've been trying to find thedifference between hope and joy.
And between happy and joy.
And there's a true difference.
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You can be happy in life and nothave true joy.
And finding true joy is thegrace of God.
God's grace is the one thingthat will give you true joy.
When you wake up and you realizethat no matter what you have
done, no matter what you haveseen, what you have said, what
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you have done to other people,what you have done to God, that
He will love you.
And He loves you.
And He loves you where you are.
And He loves you enough to notkeep you where you are if you
want to give Him theopportunity.
You know, the next episode, wetalked about chains we don't
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talk about.
And it was a deep dive.
From addiction to shame, pasthurts to secret struggles, we
boldly brought light to whattries to keep us bound in the
darkness, bound in the darkness.
And, you know, everybody has apast.
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Everybody has done things thatthey're not happy about that
they've done.
They've done things that they'reashamed of.
They've tweeted someone acertain way or they've talked
about somebody a certain way, itmay not be as deep and dark as
addiction.
And it may not be the shame thatI went through or the struggles
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that I went through, but you'vehad struggles.
We're human.
We've all had struggles.
And sometimes we think we getthrough it.
And Deb said in one of these, inthis episode, she said that her
dad always says, I don't know.
Why don't you pick the chainback up and play with it, right?
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And we do that.
We do that a lot.
Like, we, you know, we thinkwe're through it.
We think we're over it.
And we think we're done with it.
And then, oh, let's just playwith it just a little bit more,
right?
And so, you know, chains that wedon't talk about, the people,
You know, it brought boldness.
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We had a lot of comments.
A lot of people texted us beinglike, oh my God, that's what I
do.
You know, I let it go.
And then, you know, and thenjust one day I want to play with
it.
And it's just, you know, and thedifferent things.
And then the next episode,episode three, we talked about
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forgiveness and You know,forgiveness was hard for me.
It's still hard for me.
It was hard to let go of things.
It was hard to, you know,instead of forgiving somebody, I
would rather just pretend likeit didn't happen.
Yeah.
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Instead of talking aboutsomething, I would rather
pretend like it didn't happen.
So, you know, that episodetouched so many people, you
know, because it's hard whensomeone has hurt you, whether
it's mentally or physically.
It's hard to let go and it'shard to forgive.
But the one thing that we wantedto stress in that episode is
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that, you know, to find freedom,it comes from letting go.
And not for them, but for you.
Forgiveness is hard.
But if you don't forgive, it'llharden your heart.
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But forgiveness is hard, butit's holy at the same time.
And you do it more for you thanyou do for the people that have
hurt you or wronged you.
You know, those first threeepisodes, they were very, I was
so excited when we started thispodcast.
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And I could just hear every,like every week I could hear God
telling me what to say, tellingme what to talk about.
And I think that I've alwayswanted to, I've always wanted to
share my story, but I've I'vealways seen sharing my story in
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a different way.
I used to sit and think aboutwhat would I say if I shared my
story, but I wanted to tell thestory.
But telling the story isn'tsharing my story, but showing
the grace that God gave me bysharing my story.
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The next few episodes, we duginto God in the details.
And sometimes you have to get alittle honest about who you are.
You have to get a little honestabout who you are in Christ.
You have to get a little bit ofhonesty about what we do.
God gives us truth.
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A blueprint.
Your Bible is a blueprint forwhat's happening, what's going
to happen, and how to deal witheverything.
But we want to come to God whenwe need Him and not be bothered
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with Him when we don't need Him,when everything is so good.
It's like we forget sometimesthat it's good because of him,
right?
So we talked about are you highmaintenance?
You know, and we make jokes andwe kind of laugh because, you
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know, Deb is one of those.
She gets up and she fixes herhair and she puts on the makeup
and she likes to have her toesdone and she, you know, she's
world, you know, and physicallyshe's high maintenance, right?
But that wasn't what we weretalking about.
We were talking about yourspiritual hot magnets.
Like, if we would spend 15 lessminutes getting ready to go out
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into the world, could we spendthat 15 minutes with God?
You know, and do we demand fromGod without giving Him?
what He wants, right, withoutgiving Him our heart.
And truly, that's all He wants,right?
I mean, as a mother, all Iwanted, all I've ever wanted was
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for something to love me as muchas I love it, right?
And I've told the story.
I truly believe that that's whyGod gave me my son.
It's because He knew that's theone thing that I wanted.
I just wanted somebody to loveme.
That's all.
That's all I've ever wanted.
Somebody to love me withoutconditions.
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But it's hard to have thatspiritual maintenance.
I am squirrely, if you askpeople that know me.
I am very squirrely.
I am easily distracted.
So sitting down and reading theBible for 20 or 30 minutes a day
or 10 or 15 minutes a day ishard for me.
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My brain wants to go otherplaces, and I know that I should
be able to do it.
But boy, I can sit and talk tohim for 20 or 30 minutes.
Like, I can just sit and have aconversation.
Just don't expect me tocomprehend what I'm reading.
One of the— One of my associatesthat worked for me last
Christmas, he purchased, hebought me a Bible and it's a
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women's study Bible.
And in the margins, it haspictures that you can color
while you're studying yourBible.
And that was probably one of thebest gifts I've ever received.
It definitely helps me to digmore into the Bible.
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It keeps me focused because Ican read and then color a little
bit.
And then I can read and I cancolor a little bit.
And coloring has always kept mecentered.
Our next episode was Open Wind,God's Letters to Us.
You know, we went through...
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His truth for every season,right?
There's so many seasons in lifethat you go through.
And some of them you go throughmore than one time.
Some of them you go through, youthink you've come out of it and
you're really not done.
You know, when you're in aseason, you're climbing up the
mountain, right?
And you're trying to get to thetop.
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But then it's a season comingdown, right?
And you have to, you know,there's a song, Flowers, you
know, and she's asking God, why?
And you have to remember Histruth during those times.
You know, and He says, trust me,I'm a good gardener, right?
I'm planting the seeds.
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I'm holding the water can, youknow.
So He's getting you ready.
So You know, we talked aboutseasons of being tired and lost,
waiting and ready to give up.
God's Word speaks, and we openedit together, right?
So, open wind, open.
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came from listening to the radiowhere the DJ was talking about
her son graduating this year andgoing off to college.
And, you know, he was theoldest.
He's the first of her kids to goaway, to leave home, to go to
college.
And, you know, she was like, Youknow, I want to do something
special for him.
And one of the listeners calledme, and she said that when her
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first kid went to, when he leftfor college, that she sat down
and she wrote him some letters.
And it would say, open whenyou're lonely.
Open when you're hungry.
Open when you're homesick.
And there would be a littleletter, a little note in there
from her, you know, withaffirmation and with
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encouragement.
and letting him know that sheloved him.
And then when you're hungry,there was a gift card.
When you're lonely, there was, Idon't know, like a fun card so
we could call home or whatever,just different little things
like that.
And God left us letters justlike that in the Bible.
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Open when.
Yeah.
You know, I have a little cardand it says Bible emergency
numbers.
So when in sorrow, read John 14.
When man fails you, Psalms 27.
When you have a worry, Matthew6, 19 through 34.
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When you're in danger, Psalms91.
When God seems far away, Psalms139.
You know, those are just a fewof the letters that God has left
us.
Our next episode was theblessing inventory.
And it reminded us thatgratitude isn't about big,
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flashy miracles.
It's about counting breaths,hugs, healing and sunrises.
It's the small things that makeour lives holy.
You know, we don't live in atime of sadness.
David and the giant.
We don't live in the time ofDavid, you know, in the lion's
den or Paul and Joe or James,you know, the fish, you know,
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fishing all night long and then,you know, not catching anything
and then having more than theycould catch.
You know, we don't live in atime of two fish and two loaves
and feeding 5,000 people.
But do we?
Like, you know, I don't think mypodcast is going to feed 5,000
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people.
Fish or bread.
But I do believe it's going totouch the people that God wants
it to touch.
And I do believe that taking thetime to share my story and
taking the time to talk aboutreal life and being raw and
honest about it, I do believethat that is a small blessing,
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right?
We talked about...
The things that we don'tappreciate, right?
Like I don't always appreciatemy husband for all the yard work
that he does.
Like he spends a lot of timetaking care of our yard.
And he loves doing it.
And that's why he does it untilsomebody that's never been here
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comes over.
And then they talk about howbeautiful it is and how gorgeous
it is.
You know, and that's, you know,that's a small blessing.
Right.
Not everybody has that.
Not everybody has a husband thatcares enough to plant Bermuda
grass and plant differentflowers every season.
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You know, he takes me to thewaves and I pick them all up and
things like that.
You know, we just got back fromthe beach and we went fishing.
We had some couples come up andspend a couple days with us, and
we got up every morning, and wewent and had breakfast together.
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And then we went back to theroom, and he got ready, and he
left with his buddy and went andplayed golf.
And I went home to the beach,and I got in my chair, and I
listened to podcasts, and Ilistened to the ocean, and I
spent some time with God, whichis what I enjoy most.
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And then I was asked, well, doesit not upset you that you're on
vacation together and he wantsto go play golf with his
buddies?
No, not really.
Because we would have went tothe beach and he would have
frustrated me, right?
Because I love my husband, buthe doesn't want to sit still.
He's good for about 10 minutesand then he wants to do
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something.
So he'd be wanting to play inthe sand or play in the water
and he'd be wanting to get up.
He'd be wanting to do this.
He'd be wanting...
And that's not what I wanted todo, right?
I wanted to spend, I needed tospend some me and Jesus time.
I mean, that's what I needed.
I was feeling burnt out.
I was feeling neglected.
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I was feeling tired.
I was feeling empty.
You know, I was feeling allthese things and that's what I
needed.
And, you know, I'm thankful andgrateful that my husband gives
me the time when I need it themost.
You know, He gives me what Ineed.
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The next couple, the next threeepisodes that we did, you know,
we started talking about whenlife gets heavy.
That next episode, when thehouse feels heavy.
That was the week that We kepttrying to do the silent battle,
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which is the episode that weactually did after when the
house feels heavy.
That was the week that Icouldn't hear God.
That was the week that...
My partner needed to getsomething off her chest, and she
needed to talk about it.
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We talked about emotionalclutter and mental awareness and
spiritual distance.
We invited God back into ourlives and into our homes.
We talked about how sometimes welet things in.
And we don't even realize it.
And we don't even see what'shappening until it's already
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starting to start.
And you have to be aware of yoursurroundings.
And you have to be aware ofwhere you're at.
And sometimes, I don't know,sometimes it's hard.
There's so much chatter in theworld today.
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And there's so much...
negativity in the world todayand there's it's in the palm of
your hands like I think theworld has always had its issues
right it's always had itsproblems it's always it's always
been very heavy but it wasdifferent because it wasn't
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right there like you had to waitto the six o'clock news to find
out what was going on now it'sin the palm of your hands so you
know But we talked aboutemotional clutter and about, you
know, just being lost.
That's what we talked about.
The next episode was the silentbattle.
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And that was probably one of themost vulnerable episodes for us.
Deb opened up about herdepression, her anxiety.
attempted suicides, she openedup how it didn't just affect
her, but it affected her family,and that every time that
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something happened, it wasalways a big movement for her
family, and the devil would beat his strongest.
We talked about faith and hope,and we talked about how silence
doesn't mean absence, right?
Sometimes when God is silent,He's just sitting there waiting.
Sometimes you don't want to hearit.
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Sometimes you just want somebodyto listen.
You talk about something.
You don't want nobody's opinion.
You don't want to know what theyhave to say about it.
Most of the time, you alreadyknow how they feel about it.
Sometimes it just needs to sitthere.
Jesus will sit in the darknesswith us.
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He will sit there right next tous while we are in our darkness.
And He will slowly shine a lighton you.
And you will feel it.
And you can feel His presence.
You just have to ask for it.
And then we talked about, isyour house ready?
So we reminded us to not onlyprepare for blessings, but
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prepare for His presence.
It was about getting spirituallydressed for eternity.
Now.
So we compared this to...
This OCD.
app that I have.
Anytime anyone's coming to myhouse, I have to clean my
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kitchen and I have to wipe downall my counters and I have to
wipe down all my tables and Ihave to vacuum my floor and I
have to spot mop it and makesure there's no spots.
Everything has to be in itsplace and there can't be, like
right now, there's shoes on thefloor and there's probably a
shirt laying across the couch.
The blanket's not folded and putwhere it's supposed to be.
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It's just kind of laying on thecouch Because nobody's here but
me, right?
And nobody's, no company'scoming.
But when company comes, I mean,what's the first thing you do?
You clean your house, right?
You don't want anybody to walkin and think, oh, that's dirty.
Or, oh, that's cluttered.
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Or, oh, that's disorganized.
You know, you just don't wantthat.
And I do it at work, too.
I clean my office constantly atwork because I don't want people
to come in.
And I am the most disorganizedperson that you'll ever meet
most of the time.
But it is what it is.
But is your house ready?
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And it wasn't about yourphysical house being ready.
It was about, is your heartready?
If Jesus knocked today and said,it's time to come home, are you
ready to come home?
Are you ready to stand in frontof Jesus?
Are you ready?
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If you had asked me thisquestion 15 years ago, I would
have been so full of shame.
I would not have been ready.
If you had asked me this 10years ago, and I will be married
10 years in October, I stilldon't think I was completely
ready.
I still had a lot of skeletonsin my closet.
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I still had a lot of hurt andtrauma to deal with.
Am I ready today?
I am.
I am ready.
I know He loves me.
I know He loves me for who I am.
I know that He has given megrace and that He has given me
gratitude and that He hashumbled me in so many ways.
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And that...
So yeah, I'm ready.
I'm ready to stand before Him.
I'm ready.
The song says, am I going todance with you, Jesus?
Am I going to have anything tosay?
I don't know.
Or am I just going to be in aweof you?
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Part four, the next few, wetalked about who you are and who
He is.
We followed up with more thanenough.
You know, where we dismantledcomparison and insecurities, you
know, our youth of today, ouryounger generations, you know,
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and I'm not talking abouteight-year-olds.
I'm talking about 12-year-olds,13-year-olds, 14-year-olds.
I'm talking about 20, 21, 22,women in their 30s, right?
Like...
Comparison and insecurities arewhat they are, right?
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You have been born into ageneration where everything is
at your hands.
Everything is in the palm ofyour hands.
You can see what all the richare doing.
It's not just Hollywood, but yousee everything.
Everybody, you know, people are,their lives are on Facebook and
Twitter and Instagram andeverybody's so happy and they're
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always so positive andeverything is so wonderful.
But where's your heart?
You know, when we first startedthis episode, I told you that
I've been trying to, I've beenworking on you know, having
happiness and finding true joyin my life.
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And, you know, my true joydefinitely comes from Jesus.
And insecurities and comparisonwill take your joy.
And no one or nothing deservesyour joy.
Your joy is yours and yoursalone.
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So then came, maybe you're theblessing.
You know, I did this episodewith Haley Lewis, the founder of
Hud's Heart.
And, you know, it still justgives me some kind of chill to
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think about me being somebody'sblessing, right?
Yeah.
i get it i pray with people allthe time and you know and i do
nice things for people like ipay for their meal um you know i
just uh bought a kid and who'sbeen in foster care for uh for
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15 of his 17 years and i justbought him a brand new nice
backpack a laptop, some pens andsome pencils and some paper and
just a few necessities becausehe got a full scholarship to a
college.
And I wanted him to have what heneeded to succeed because he has
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taken the opportunity to breakthose generational curses.
He wants to be better than wherehe came from.
And I want him to have all theopportunities that everyone else
has.
And we've actually been buyingthis kid a backpack for the last
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three years.
And when we gave it to him, theywere like, usually the college
kids don't get nothing.
And I'm like, he deserves it.
He deserves it.
He deserves everything that he'sgetting.
But we were fraying.
what it means to be strong.
You know, the world saysstrength is dominance, and God
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says that it's discernment.
And maybe your heaviness isproof of your calling, right?
So discernment, you know, Haleytalked about the yes,
discernment, and about how inministry sometimes you want to
say yes because you can, but youneed to ask, is this right?
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Is this my blessing to give oris it somebody else's?
Because you definitely don'twant to take someone else's
blessing.
And I'll list the other threequestions in the description
below.
And then came Agape Love.
And when Debra brought AgapeLove to me, I Googled it and it
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did not...
Its definition of Agape Love wasnot...
the definition that we werelooking for.
But we dove into God's kind oflove.
Non-conditional, not based onany behavior, but covenant,
eternal, and pursuing.
Unconditional.
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There's no conditions to God'slove other than you love Him.
And people say, well, I'm notever going to be different.
I'm not ever going to bedifferent.
That's why I don't want to be aChristian, or that's why I don't
want to love Jesus, because I'mnot ever going to change.
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I used to be one of those.
I used to always say that I'dsmoke pot till the day I die.
I'd get high.
smoking pot every day until theday I die.
Like, I will never give upsmoking pot.
I like the way it makes me feel.
I like how it calms me down.
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You know, I will never quitsmoking pot.
Then I got clean, right?
And I quit meth.
And then, you know, I stilldrank.
I still smoked a little pot.
You know, on and on.
But Then I felt Jesus and Itruly was humbled and given
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grace and I haven't thoughtabout smoking pot in a long
time.
You know, I haven't thoughtabout it because it's not about
what I've done.
It's about finding peace.
You don't find peace with drugsand you don't find peace out in
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the world and you don't findpeace searching around.
You find peace when you hit yourknees and you talk to God.
The wait and the witness.
Our next stop was, what are youwaiting on?
I've been trying to dig moreinto the Bible, right?
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And we've talked about this.
And so what are you waiting onwas a look into the 400 years of
biblical silence and how evenwhen God seems quiet, He is
never still.
He is always working.
So in the 400 years of biblicalsilence, that's the time that
Moses and the Israelites werewandering around in Egypt,
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wandering around in the desertafter leaving Egypt.
And And every time they werealmost to where they were
supposed to be, they would startgrumbling or griping,
complaining, whining about, youknow, where is God?
What is he doing?
Blah, you know, just ugh kind ofthings.
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And, you know, we broke it down.
And during this time when all ofthis was going on in history,
the Romans were coming in.
They were building roads.
They were buildinginfrastructure.
They were building all of thecities.
And they were preparing theworld for Jesus, even though
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they didn't know this.
But that's what they were doing.
And the Israelites couldn't takethe moment to figure that out,
that Jesus was coming.
So when he came...
He didn't have to wander aroundin the desert.
He was able to walk on roadsfrom city to city, and he was
able to have housing, and therewas wells dug, so there was
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water, and there was, you know,there were cities, and there was
things to trade, and there wasjust, it was a lot easier than
it would have been if he wouldhave came before during those
times.
You know, And then our final andlatest episode is one that I
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believe will touch so manypeople's hearts, so many
people's minds.
I believe that it is aGod-filled testimony.
My God is faithful, the heart'sstory.
Haley, the host that helped meto do Baby, You're the Blessing,
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she told her story, hertestimony of her son, Hudson,
and how, you know, how it,Haley's testimony, it's real,
it's raw, and it's redemptive.
When she talks about Hudson andshe talks about what her and
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Joey went through, it'sheartfelt, right?
It's definitely, yeah, It'sdefinitely a sad story to hear.
But at the same time, you know,it reminds us that God doesn't
just bring beauty.
That God doesn't just bringbeauty from ashes.
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He builds ministry from them,right?
Haley dove into her faith whenshe was going through all that
and dug into God and said, Hehelped her through it, and he
helped her to come out of it onthe other side stronger and more
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anointed and more in her faith.
Haley is probably one of thestrongest women that I have ever
met, and I feel very blessed tohave met her and to have her in
this journey with me.
from now until whenever and inthe season of my life.
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So that's all 14 episodes.
And if you haven't listened toany of them, if you've only
listened to one of them, ifyou...
heard something today that makesyou want to go back and listen
to another one please do ifyou've heard something today
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about one of the episodes thatyou think you know someone that
needs to hear please pleaseshare the podcast with everyone
um Take a moment to go to ourFacebook page, Unrelated Sisters
Truth and Grace ConversationPodcast, and drop us a note.
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Drop us a comment.
We've posted every episode toour Facebook page.
Drop us a line.
Find us on TikTok.
I'm not very good at posting onTikTok.
I'm trying to be better.
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You know, God has been on meabout making some videos and
introducing ourselves to theworld, and I'm not ready.
But you know, I'm not usuallyready when He wants me to do
something.
So I want y'all to...
So here's the heart of today'sepisode.
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We're not just making a podcast.
We're building a community oftruth and grace.
I'm not perfect.
I don't have it all together.
But I show up and I tell thetruth.
Me and Deborah, we cry, welaugh, we trust in God together.
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And it seems every week to workitself out.
It just seems to be what it'ssupposed to be.
And the months before we startedthis, that's all I prayed.
Let it be what you want it tobe.
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Let us be your hands and feet.
Give us what you want us to talkabout.
And there's some weeks I knowexactly where we're headed.
And then there's some weeks Idon't know until the day before
we post it, where we're headed.
To every person listening, manor woman, I want you to know
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you're not alone.
You're not forgotten, and youare not too much or not enough.
You are my sister and my brotherin this house of faith, and this
podcast is your seat at thetable.
This is your outlet.
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If you want to tell your story,contact me.
Let's tell your story.
If there's a topic that you wantus to talk about, tell us.
I'll pray on it.
And it may not be today'sepisode.
It may not be next week'sepisode.
Because some of these episodeswe recorded first, but it wasn't
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the one to release.
Everything we pray, we pray foreverything that we do.
You know, I just want to thankyou for spending this reflection
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moment with me.
It's been an honor to grow,learn, and worship alongside
each and every one of you.
And Deb, if you're listeningfrom your vacation spot, we love
you and I miss you.
If this episode has blessed you,please share it.
Leave a review.
Don't forget to connect with uson Facebook and TikTok,
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Unrelated Sisters Truth andGrace Podcast.
We want to hear your stories,your struggles, and your
testimonies.
Father God, we thank you forevery story, every episode,
every man and woman who hastuned in to Unrelated Sisters.
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Lord, you have met us in ourweakness, our joy, our waiting,
and our pain.
You've reminded us over and overand over again that you are
faithful.
I lift up every listener rightnow.
Meet her, him exactly where theyare.
Whisper truth into their hearts.
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Wash them with grace.
Strengthen them for the journeyahead.
And Lord, let this podcastcontinue to be a space where you
are glorified and your daughtersand sons are loved.
Lord Jesus, I am so humbled.
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I'm so grateful.
And we give you all the glory.
In Jesus' name we pray.
Amen.
Until next time, keep walking intruth, keep resting in grace,
and remember, you're not aloneand God's not done with you yet.
We love you.
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