August 29, 2025 • 38 mins
In this heartfelt episode of Unrelated Sisters: Truth & Grace Conversation, Shannon and Deb does a follow from last week season of weariness, disappointment, and how easy it is to let the whispers of the enemy steal our peace. Through raw honesty and real-life struggles, they uncover how obedience to God shifts chaos into clarity, and how choosing joy—even when it doesn’t feel natural—leads to freedom.
This week’s reminder: Happiness is a feeling, but joy is a choice. The sisters discuss John 16:33 and Galatians 6:9, revealing the power of saying “yes” to God, rejecting the lies of the enemy, and finding rest in His presence.
💡 If you’ve been battling self-doubt, perfectionism, or internal chaos, this episode will encourage you to hold every thought captive, embrace authenticity, and remember: your obedience unlocks peace.
✨ Bible Verses
- John 16:33 (NIV): “I have told you these things, so that in me you may have peace. In this world you will have trouble. But take heart! I have overcome the world.”
- Galatians 6:9 (NKJV): “And let us not grow weary while doing good, for in due season we shall reap if we do not lose heart.”
- Nehemiah 8:10 (NIV): “…for the joy of the Lord is your strength.”
💬 Encouraging Words
Sis, you don’t have to live in chaos or let your emotions dictate your worth. The enemy whispers lies—“you’re not enough, you’ve failed, no one cares”—but God speaks truth. You are chosen, you are equipped, and He has already overcome what you’re facing.
When joy feels lost, don’t wait for the feeling—step into the action. Shout for joy. Sing for joy. Dance for joy. Sometimes your breakthrough comes after your praise. Remember, obedience brings freedom, and freedom brings rest.
🙏 Prayer to Help Them Pray
“Father, thank You for reminding me that joy is not based on my circumstances but on Your presence in my life. Help me to silence the lies of the enemy and hold every thought captive to Your truth. Teach me to obey quickly and trust that Your ways bring peace. When I feel weary, remind me that You are my strength, and in due season, I will see the harvest of the good You’ve started in me. Today I choose joy. Today I choose obedience. In Jesus’ name, Amen.”
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UNKNOWN (00:00):
Thank you.
SPEAKER_00 (00:00):
Lord, we love you tonight, and we just thank you
for this opportunity to be here,Lord.
It seems like it's been forever.
God, I just pray that you wouldspeak through me and Shannon,
and just have your way tonight,Lord.
In Jesus' name, amen.
Amen.
So, it's great to be back.
I've missed everybody.
It's great to have you back,Miss Debra.
(00:23):
I've been laughing.
So, I know that Shannon had todo the podcast by herself last
week, and her things better?
Can you tell us about that?
Things are better.
SPEAKER_01 (00:33):
Things are better.
Things have been enlighteningthis week.
You know, I was all up in myfeelings last week and one of my
associates, she said, she lookedat me and she goes, I don't know
where your joy is, but you needto go find it.
(00:54):
And I was like, what are youtalking about?
Because as we've talked about inthe past, I I was putting on the
perfect mask, right?
(01:31):
the people you know that gotupset with me or the people that
didn't like the changes that Iwere making that was the people
I rely on right that's the onesthat's the management team that
runs my building when I'm not inthe when I'm not there that's
the people that I rely on to getthings done that's the people
that you know that are supposedto have my back and I feel like
(01:54):
everyone was upset because Iwanted to change things I had
spent five weeks in a Yeah.
(02:19):
And I got content.
(02:49):
And when they, you know, decidedthat they just wasn't happy with
the changes that I was making orwhen they decided that things
were going, you know, theydidn't want to be different, you
know, and they decided to leave,it hurt my feelings.
It made me feel, you know, itmade me feel a certain kind of
way.
And I don't know if that was, Idon't know what that was.
(03:15):
Yeah.
Fast forward past all of that.
Me and God have been fightingback and forth.
Well, I've been saying he's beensaying do.
And I've been saying, I don'tknow.
Right.
For the last month and a half.
(03:36):
And so I don't know if whathappened at work was as big as I
felt like it was, because.
The enlightenment that I've seenthis week was when I finally
said yes.
He said okay.
Right?
And everything seems better.
That's
SPEAKER_00 (03:56):
normally what happens when we get in
alignment.
You know, what did you sayearlier?
Obedience to God is your key tofreedom.
Always.
SPEAKER_01 (04:05):
That's going to be my new catch-along.
SPEAKER_00 (04:08):
That's going to be my new book.
SPEAKER_01 (04:12):
That's going to be your new book.
You're going to write a book?
Okay.
So...
In
SPEAKER_00 (04:16):
all the spare time that I have.
SPEAKER_01 (04:18):
I know, right?
Between all the grandbabies andstuff.
So...
He showed me a verse, John 16,15, so that you may have peace
in me here on earth.
You will have many trials andsorrows, but take heart because
I have overcome the world.
He gave me that verse and I waslike, OK, I hear you.
(04:41):
Right.
I hear you.
So what he's been wanting me todo is he's been wanting me to
post on Facebook talking aboutkind of the same thing.
Yeah.
(05:15):
I would, the video would bethere and I'd be like, oh my
God, look at my hair.
Or I can't, you know, I don'tknow how to use those filters on
that.
Or look, I've got a double chin.
Like I can't, I can't find theright angle or the light looks
bad or, you know, and I'm justlike, and then I would go and
watch.
Don't ever go watch TikToks.
(05:35):
I would go watch TikToks and I'dbe like, see, you know, you
know, that's a filter, right?
Like, you know, that's not real.
And, you know, but I don't knowhow to do all that.
And I would play with it and Iwould mess it up and then I
would be like, whatever.
And then I would start the videoand I would record the video and
then I would watch the video andI'd be like, no, I'm not posting
that.
So I delete it.
(05:56):
I haven't slept through thenight in the last month and a
half.
Like, and I kept blaming it onperimenopause and some, you
know, some, some, somesituations or issues or yes, but
I don't know.
don't believe that's what it wasI believe I believe that because
(06:21):
I hadn't heard him like I do thesame drive every day right I
still listen to the same radiostation for an hour and 20
minutes there an hour and 20minutes home I listen to the
same DJs every day I listen youknow and usually when I'm
writing and a song comes on youknow you know I hadn't sent you
(06:41):
a text in weeks you know he'llgive me a word and I'm like
talking it into my phone andsending it to you so I don't
forget it before you know beforeI move on to something else I do
have a little bit of ADHD and Ihaven't done that in weeks I
haven't all I've heard is thenegativity that's all I've heard
(07:01):
in my head you know you're notgood enough you're failing you
know you're you know thesepeople don't care about you and
that's not true even even eventhe ones even the Right.
Right.
(07:44):
Even years, maybe, that hewalked with these people and he
trusted these people to tell hisstory and he trusted these
people to do, you know, to dothe things that, especially
after he left.
And when he got arrested,everybody ran away.
(08:06):
except for Mary Magdalene,right?
Everybody ran away except forher.
And I started studying, watchedthe show Chosen, and we just
finished the fourth season andwe're waiting on the fifth
season.
And, you know, it's leading upto where he gets arrested.
(08:26):
But she's right beside himthrough it all.
She stands right with him.
She makes sure he has food toeat.
She makes sure he has things todrink.
And she's standing right therewith him the whole time.
who I want to be.
Right.
That's who I want to be.
But it's so easy.
(08:48):
Like you said, in the very firstepisode, when we were talking
about or in the second episode,when we were talking about
chains, it's so easy to pick itup and play with it.
Right.
And I thought about that theother night.
I thought, oh, my God, I've beenpicking it.
I've been picking up those thatneed for perfection or that
(09:09):
those insecurities.
And I've just been toying withit, you know, these last couple
weeks and that's not on anybodybut me right it's we're dating
it was like our third date andwe went out to eat and we come
back to our hat my house and Itold him I said you know it's
been raining that porch gets alittle slick and he steps up on
it and slide falls right and Ilaughed at him and I said I told
(09:32):
you I felt like God has beensitting in there like okay you
want to go through this againall right you know yeah go ahead
you know hang off the side ofthe mountain for a while if
That's what you want to do.
But I posted the video on ourTikTok page, on unrelated
(09:52):
sisters.podcast on TikTok.
And I slept the best I've everslept.
I slept the best I slept inmonths the other night.
SPEAKER_00 (10:03):
You know, when he was saying, when he was trying
to do the video and you couldn'tget the right angle, you
couldn't get the right filter,get a filter.
I can hear the Lord saying,because I wanted her to be
authentic.
Mm-hmm.
You know, a lot of times we tryto, we see something and we're
like, mm-mm, he wants us to.
Because...
(10:24):
He wants us to show the worldthe real us.
Right.
You know what I mean?
The real us.
The real, raw, unedited us.
SPEAKER_01 (10:31):
Yeah.
And so it's so much easiersitting here with this
microphone and no video, right?
And so how I got through it is Iset the microphone in front of
me and the video to the side ofme.
And it's video in me, but I'mtalking into the microphone.
And that's how I did it, right?
(10:53):
That was the only way I couldget when I sat there and looked
at the video of myself in thevideo all I could hear was the
enemy all I could hear was youknow nobody wants to hear you
you ain't got nothing to say youknow and I'm like so I had to I
had to like mimic this thisatmosphere to be able to get
(11:14):
through it which is I don't knowlike I stand up and talk to
people I stand I talk tohundreds of people a day it's
not like I have a Fear oftalking to the public or talking
to crowds.
I do it all the time.
I just couldn't.
Like, I just couldn't.
Like, it was just sooverwhelming at the thought of
(11:38):
posting that first post.
Right.
And but you're right.
He wanted raw and he wantedreal.
And that's what he got.
Original.
The original me.
Yeah.
And that's, you know.
That's definitely what he got,you know, that.
(11:59):
And don't get me wrong.
You know, I haven't beenpretending this whole time.
But the last podcast, you know,I cried.
I showed emotion.
I don't show emotion.
I don't do that.
Right.
Especially like at work.
Now I'll show it at home.
But at work and things likethat, I'm the leader.
(12:19):
So I don't show emotion.
I don't show anger.
I don't show.
I don't do all of that.
Because at the end of the day, Imake the atmosphere in my
building and stuff.
So actually, I called Haley, theyoung girl from Hud's Heart, and
we were talking and I had to askher to do the podcast with me on
(12:43):
the discernment of yes.
I've got one that I've had wroteup and I asked her to do it with
me.
But I didn't go.
I didn't take the stuff.
I just didn't go.
Right.
You invited me to go.
I was supposed to go with youlast week.
week to the women's shelter.
They weren't stopping me fromgoing.
(13:03):
Nothing other than myself.
Right.
So I allowed the enemy to takeaway somebody's blessing,
because if I went that night,there would have been a
blessing.
And I know that now.
Right.
And I knew it then.
I just didn't get out of mypajamas.
UNKNOWN (13:24):
Right.
SPEAKER_01 (13:24):
I just didn't get out of my pajamas.
And so then I felt guilty,right?
And then I felt ashamed becauseI didn't go.
And then I let the enemyconvince me that it was okay.
I didn't go, right?
But it wasn't.
It wasn't okay.
I'm supposed to go, so we'regoing to go.
(13:46):
Yes.
I'm supposed to, you know, I'msupposed to be a part of that.
I
SPEAKER_00 (13:51):
feel
SPEAKER_01 (13:52):
like you are.
I do, too.
I do, too.
And last week, and that's whatI'm saying, like, revival might
have broke out last week if I'dhave behaved.
It
SPEAKER_00 (14:00):
worked out, and...
They're going through sometransitions yourself.
And they're about to restock thewhole house.
And so they're down to a couplegirls now.
And so they're about to open thedoors back up in a couple more
weeks.
They're going to be full.
And I really feel like that.
(14:21):
You know when you were sayingyour co-worker told you to get
some joy.
I know.
You know, Dad was preaching theother Sunday.
He was talking about how a lotof times we get in our feelings
and...
It's hard to find the joy.
It is.
You know what I mean?
And the Bible says the joy ofthe Lord is our strength.
So when we're not happy a lot oftimes or not have joy, there's a
(14:42):
difference.
Then what?
Right.
Sometimes we sit in our stuff.
Yeah.
We're weak.
We don't have strength.
Yeah.
And so he was preaching, youknow, the Bible says to shout
for joy.
Yes.
To leap for joy.
Not when you have joy, you dothese things, but you do those
things to get joy.
You know, you dance for joy.
You sing for joy.
(15:03):
Yeah.
So when you find your So letthat echo when you say that.
(15:34):
look at you I mean you haveyou're such an inspiration to so
many and where you came from andwhere you are now and more tear
down your joy because of thepeople that you come in contact
with and that you pour into andif you're not in the position to
do those things then he feelslike he's won right and we don't
(15:54):
want him to win and we're notgoing to let him win I said that
the other day I'm like you knowwhat I have fought too hard for
this for his family I will notlet you come in over something
crazy I refuse to let youdestroy what God has built.
And when you can get in thatmindset and get out of it, you
know what I mean?
But it's hard when you're upthere.
(16:14):
It
SPEAKER_01 (16:14):
is.
It is.
And so you haven't watched theTikTok video, but in the video,
it's not today.
Yeah.
The enemy doesn't get my joy.
Not today.
SPEAKER_00 (16:29):
That's right.
SPEAKER_01 (16:30):
You know, sometimes you have to just, just not
today.
And Sometimes
SPEAKER_00 (16:36):
I think
SPEAKER_01 (16:38):
several times.
(17:03):
And which goes to this verse.
SPEAKER_00 (17:06):
He says, I have told you all this that you may have
peace in me.
Have peace in him.
Here on earth you will have manytrials and sorrows, but take
heart because he's alreadydefeated Satan.
He holds the keys.
SPEAKER_01 (17:21):
And that's what I said.
I felt like he was standingthere like I did my husband
laughing at me saying, okay, Ijust told you.
And it all stemmed We did thatProverbs 31, women, and that
affected me, right?
Like, it affected me in a waythat negatively, in a way, kind
(17:48):
of, you know, me and Keena havebeen through a lot in our past,
and we went through a lottogether in our past, and, you
know, and when I started gettingclose to God, Not just clean,
but when I started trying tofind my faith, I couldn't feed
(18:11):
into the others.
I just had to let Kena go andlet Kena be.
That has bothered me a lot in mylife because she never truly had
peoples, but I couldn't healmyself in the time.
Then when she said that thingsthat she said like that played
(18:36):
over and over and over in myhead a lot you know and at the
end of the day I feel like youknow that's one of those it made
me feel so good inside to hearher say that but then it made me
feel guilty for walking awayfrom her right which you know
(18:59):
she had to find her own waybecause she's more stubborn the
menu together and I would havenever been able to find where I
am and she knows that and I loveher and I'm not saying anything
out of way or any of that but itkind of started there when we
(19:24):
did that Proverbs 31 I feel likeit just kind of started the
whole and it wasn't anythinganybody did it was you let him
whisper once he's gonna whisperagain he's gonna whisper again
you know what I mean like itwasn't that any anybody did
anything but I let the whisper Ilet the thought come in you know
(19:49):
and it wasn't that day it was acouple days later right so it
was totally 100% the enemybecause at that moment God was
in the room and he you know butit was a few days later and then
that's when I started nothearing the radio Right.
Like the songs were playing andI was singing along, but I
wasn't hearing the radio.
(20:09):
I wasn't hearing the music.
I wasn't hearing the hallelujah.
I wasn't feeling the presence ofGod.
I wasn't, you know, and then itjust boom, boom, boom, boom,
boom.
But he had been talking to meabout the whole video thing
weeks prior to us doing theProverbs 31.
And then I just let the whispercome in, you know, to cast
SPEAKER_00 (20:30):
down every thought, every imagination.
SPEAKER_01 (20:33):
Mm hmm.
SPEAKER_00 (20:33):
Hold it captive.
You know what I mean?
Hold something y'all didn'tknow.
You know what I mean?
Torment me.
So when you had those thoughts,you came back to the Lord.
I literally was fighting,feeling like I wasn't good
enough.
I didn't want to be witheverybody.
I didn't want to come to theclasses.
And I remember we talked aboutthis the last time, or not the
(20:54):
last time, a couple timesbefore, how we were going to the
Battle of the Mind classes.
And so Jason was teaching theclasses, and they were talking
about holding your thoughtscaptive.
And literally, and he would dothat.
You know, like literally peekingat his head and holding it.
And so you have in your hand, isthis true?
Is this no?
(21:14):
Is this of God?
You know what I mean?
And if it's not, if it doesn'tfall under any of the truths of
what God says about you, cast itdown.
Right.
You know what I mean?
And so that helped me so much asI was growing.
Right.
Because when I had thosethoughts, is this me or is this
the enemy?
Is this God?
(21:34):
It's not God because he wouldn'tsay those things
SPEAKER_01 (21:38):
about me.
And then it went from that tobeing disappointed in myself
because any other time, I'm asticky note person and it's all
over my mirror.
If I start feeling or start somekind of way, writing truths down
and sticking it up there to see,I didn't do none of that.
(21:59):
I tell y'all on this podcast todo it.
And then when I needed to do itI didn't
SPEAKER_00 (22:07):
do it you know what the good thing is God loves us
and he loves you just the same Iknow you know that's the good
thing about God is he'll let ussit in our mess and thumbs and
in our own craziness or our ownyou know things we're going
through and he's like okay yougonna let me help you I know you
(22:27):
gonna use the tools I've givenyou yeah like
SPEAKER_01 (22:29):
okay yeah I guess we
SPEAKER_00 (22:31):
need to get back to school I get it
SPEAKER_01 (22:33):
Yeah.
Yeah.
And that's how it's been thelast few days.
And I know you know that becauseI've been blowing you up.
Like, it's just been, bam, bam.
I love it.
I know.
I'm like, oh, that sounds good.
You know, oh, what about thatthought?
You know, and I'm just like,okay, see what you do to you.
And you do it to yourself,right?
(22:55):
And everybody's like, well, Godshouldn't let this happen or he
shouldn't let that happen or heshouldn't let this happen.
But if you sit down and thinkabout it, we do it to ourselves
I mean he didn't he didn't doany of that to
SPEAKER_00 (23:09):
me
SPEAKER_01 (23:10):
yeah he didn't do any of that to me right but he
stood there and waited until Iwas ready to listen until I was
ready to be like okay you knowbecause the minute and I did the
video and thought I posted itand I didn't post it because I
don't really know how to doTikTok right and so but that
night I went to bed and sleptlike a baby right I didn't did
(23:33):
the video i didn't delete it itwas on there just because i'm
malfunctioning doesn't meananything right but uh and so the
next day at work i asked one ofmy co-workers who follows the
podcast and she follows us ontiktok and i said did you see
that video i posted she goes youdidn't post a video i was like
yes i did and she's like no youdidn't and so i went on to the
(23:58):
podcast i went on to the tiktokchannel and i was like well
where's that video i know i'veposted it like and then I came
up here and it was in the draftswhen I got home it was in the
drafts so I actually posted itthen and you know but actually
doing it he freed me yeah fromall the anxiety and all of the
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all of the emotions and thefeelings you know and you can't
live life on emotions for surebecause emotions are like roller
coasters right and they'll trickyou they will trick you into
thinking all kinds of differentthings or feeling all kinds of
different things.
SPEAKER_00 (24:39):
No feeling is final.
Like what you're feeling in thatmoment, that's not a final
feeling.
Nope.
Because right now I feel likeI'm going to feel like this
forever.
You know what I mean?
But you don't.
No.
That's the good news.
SPEAKER_01 (24:52):
Right.
And that's why there's adifference between joy and
happy.
Happy is a feeling and joy issomething that you choose.
So
SPEAKER_00 (25:02):
we choose to be happy.
We
SPEAKER_01 (25:04):
choose joy.
Yes, we do.
We choose to have joy ineverything that we do.
I just heard a song on the wayhere.
No, I don't know who sings it.
No, I don't know what the nameof it was, but I'm going to sing
my hallelujah.
right and you don't and that'snot literal right it's not okay
hallelujah hallelujah but whenanything happens small or big
(25:31):
and you say thank you because ashumans that's all we want right
we want recognition we wantpeople to tell us that we did a
good job we want people to thankus he wants the same things
right he wants when he big orsmall you know he just wants you
to thank him he wants you toacknowledge that he's there and
even in your mess right becausei because i thought okay you
(25:57):
know i hadn't been praying everymorning when i get up or i
hadn't been reading my verse ofthe day first thing right last
week and so i so i was like okayi'm gonna get back in my routine
and i'm gonna i'm gonna probablywant to open my eyes and i'm
gonna i'm gonna not readanything before i read the verse
of the day you know um and getinto them So I have to go back
(26:21):
now and read every one of thoseverses of the day because I'm
sure I missed something.
Last week, I'm sure I missedsomething somewhere because I
still wouldn't hear any.
Because the song that I heard onthe way here, it released last
week.
And I'm sure I heard it ahundred times, but I didn't hear
it.
(26:41):
And it's not like I don't knowthat.
Right.
Yeah.
It's not like I don't know thesethings in my head or in my
heart.
SPEAKER_00 (26:53):
That's just part of it sometimes.
I think we've been walking thiswalk with Christ and that
everything's going to be perfectand we're going to know how to
do all the things right.
It's just how it is sometimes.
You find yourself in certainsituations or circumstances.
You know what?
Because life be laughing.
Life be laughing.
You know what?
God's so God.
He is.
(27:14):
He
SPEAKER_01 (27:14):
is.
He's so good and worthy.
He is.
He is.
you know it's been watch whatyou pray for that's right right
and it's not that i pray forthis but and i and i've brought
this up we've talked about thisi feel like i've been through so
much in life to get where i amtoday that i don't have chaos i
(27:37):
do have chaos that was chaoslike this whole last month and a
half has been chaos you know andi'm like like where did that
come from you And it makes youwonder sometimes, where does the
chaos come from?
It comes from you.
I'm just going to tell you.
It comes from you.
Your chaos, any chaos you havein life, it comes from you.
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It's choices you make.
It's choices you decide to notlisten to or choices you don't
make, things you try to ignore.
If you have chaos in life, it'syou.
It's all you.
Because I haven't had chaos in along time emotionally or me
personally.
You know what I mean?
like life is life and life islaughing, right?
(28:21):
But that's not chaos.
That's just life.
I'm talking about internalchaos.
Like I have been havinginternal.
I said,
SPEAKER_00 (28:31):
okay, Lord, where did I miss it?
Show me.
And then he wrote it like it isyou.
Okay, I just need your yes.
And then you did it.
And guess what?
You got some peace and you gotsome sleep.
SPEAKER_01 (28:43):
I did.
And it's like, show me.
It's like, that's how my castingcounts.
Show me who I am.
show me what you want you knowand it's insane so I mean I
don't know like that was good Soa new verse that I've been on
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since the revelation of my lifeis Galatians 6, 9.
And let us not grow weary whiledoing good.
For in due season we shall reapif we do not lose heart.
And that's going right back toit, right?
It's going right back to wherewe are.
And
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keep going.
Keep going.
Keep
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going.
Pick your pants
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up.
SPEAKER_01 (29:32):
One foot in front of the other.
One step at a time.
You know, I tell them at workall the time, especially like
the holidays are coming and theholidays are chaos, right?
We do a lot of business.
We do a lot of sales.
There's a lot of people in ourbuilding, you know, and some
days are harder than others.
And we're not used to thatbecause we run such a good
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business that, you know, otherthan November and December,
we're pretty good at not havingchaos in the building.
And, you know, and so they startgetting weary, you know, two or
three weeks in of the holiday.
And, you know, and they'll belike, oh, it wasn't like this
last year.
It
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was.
It was.
Yeah, it was.
Yeah.
Yeah, it has.
Yeah,
SPEAKER_01 (30:17):
it has.
Like, and it's so funny how youcan relate everyday life back to
God every time.
Like, every time.
Like, you know, right in themiddle of it.
He's always standing right inthe middle of it, you know.
And I haven't done it yet.
and I've done it every yearsince I've been there so I guess
I'll do it next week or so butfor the holiday season like I
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pray him into the building likeI invite him into the building
which I do every day but like Iliterally walk around the
building and invite him inbecause he's the only way we
keep peace during the holidaysbecause holidays get rough you
know but but just not growingweary right while doing good you
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know and And doing good is...
hard sometimes you know givingto others and giving into others
and sowing into others you knowand that's that's new for me
right like i guess i've alwaysgiven to people but just not
like i have been lately you knowit's been more and more and uh
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and it's weary sometimes likeit's lonely
SPEAKER_00 (31:28):
we're doing good doing good me and you're doing
the things you're trying you'retrying to soundtrack you're
trying to and then you but youfeel like you just hit the wall
You got friends that arebetraying you.
You got being disobedient.
SPEAKER_01 (31:43):
Being disobedient.
It all boils down to beingdisobedient.
SPEAKER_00 (31:48):
Let me tell you, you know, obedience to God is your
key to freedom.
Oh my God.
SPEAKER_01 (31:52):
Like, we need a t-shirt.
And that's what it all boilsdown to.
During this last month and ahalf, it really doesn't.
None of that matters.
If I hadn't been disobedient, itall still would have happened.
It just wouldn't have affectedme the same way.
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Right?
Like, it doesn't matter thecircumstances in life.
It matters where you are withHim.
Because at the end of the day,you're still going to go through
the circumstances.
You're still going to go throughwhatever the chaos is.
But it's how we see the chaos inthe end.
SPEAKER_00 (32:35):
Yeah.
That's good.
Well, I'm glad you're good.
I am good.
How have you been?
Oh, I'm good.
I'm so happy.
Work's slowing down.
Work's slowing down.
I know.
Your year slows down.
Yeah, so like the last fewmonths has been very, it's like
y'all's holiday season.
Yeah.
Because we're building shows.
The displays for the holidayseasons.
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For the holiday, like exactly,the fall and holiday.
All the new good stuff.
So, I don't know.
I was telling somebody the otherday, I said, I don't know.
I thought about a month ago, Idon't know if I can do this now.
I was rethinking all my lifechoices.
God brought me through it.
And, you know, I just had to.
It was rough, but I just said,you know what?
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Lord, you're teaching me stuffthrough this.
Yeah, because it's hard tomanage.
I've never managed 100 people.
SPEAKER_01 (33:26):
Well.
SPEAKER_00 (33:27):
Ever.
SPEAKER_01 (33:28):
Oh, my God.
And then you have 100 differentpersonalities and then your own
personality.
Welcome to my life.
One of the
SPEAKER_00 (33:33):
girls told me she came to the homeless shelter
with me last week.
She's I said, it's crazy atwork, and Deb can literally walk
in, and she's glowing.
Like, she glows through the oakplant.
And I'm like, well, that'snothing to do with me.
That's Jesus, because some daysI don't like everybody.
Right?
I don't like people.
Yeah.
And I definitely don't wantpeople today.
But I do.
I try to be intentional and justbe in the light for Jesus.
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And I know that—and you knowthis, Ben, this story— We may be
the only Jesus that people see.
Oh, yeah.
For sure.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
How we portray Jesus.
SPEAKER_01 (34:08):
Yep.
SPEAKER_00 (34:09):
You know what I mean?
No pressure.
SPEAKER_01 (34:10):
No pressure.
No.
Yeah.
But even going through thiswhole the last month and a half,
like I still went in everymorning and I smiled and I
wished everybody
SPEAKER_00 (34:19):
a good morning.
They know when I'm up to that,what's going on.
SPEAKER_01 (34:23):
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
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God is good.
SPEAKER_01 (34:27):
My excuse is and I'm giving up my my secret I just
don't feel good
SPEAKER_00 (34:33):
oh yeah
SPEAKER_01 (34:33):
I just don't feel good I'm sorry I just don't I'm
tired I just don't feel good youknow yeah yeah all those things
yeah all the things yeah
SPEAKER_00 (34:43):
and I didn't make that video that Lord told me
SPEAKER_01 (34:45):
to yeah I didn't do what I didn't I was disobedient
but you know it made mephysically sick yeah like it
made me like I thought I had abrain tumor not really I I'm not
a hypochondriac so I don't eventhink like that I kept thinking
it was sinuses so I just kepttaking sinus medicine but I had
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headaches isn't that what I was
SPEAKER_00 (35:09):
supposed
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to
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do
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and your health and everything else like behave just
listen you know and that's allyou know and as a mom that's all
I want I just want my kid tobehave and you know and call me
every now and again or you knowdon't take four days to answer
my text back that's good Heh hehheh.
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He's 21 in some days.
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Sometimes we have to do what'shealing for us and hope that our
listeners enjoy it.
Please, if you like it, shareit.
Share it with other sisters.
Share it with other groups.
We will be in Rock Mart at HolyNight of Worship on September
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the 6th.
We will have a booth set up ifyou are close or if you have a
friend we're going to try and dosome special things come by and
pray with us come by and see usespecially if you listen to the
podcast we'll be supportingHud's Heart I have some really
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cool things that we're going tobe selling and all the money we
make will go to Hud's Heart but
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pray with me yes we love you tonight and we thank
you for this time Lord it hasbeen encouraging to me And I
pray that it's encouraging toeveryone listening.
Lord, I just thank you that thisweek, that any thoughts that's
not of you, Lord, that you wouldjust silence the voice of the
enemy, Lord, and that we wouldbe able to think on the good
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things of you and that we'd beable to see ourselves the way
you see us.
And Lord, that we'll be able tosay yes and be obedient, Lord,
so we don't have to keep goingaround the same mountain.
And we thank you, Lord, thatobedience to God is your key to
freedom.
In Jesus' name, amen.
Amen.
Thank you.
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Lord, we love you tonight, and we just thank you
for this opportunity to be here,Lord.
It seems like it's been forever.
God, I just pray that you wouldspeak through me and Shannon,
and just have your way tonight,Lord.
In Jesus' name, amen.
Amen.
So, it's great to be back.
I've missed everybody.
It's great to have you back,Miss Debra.
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I've been laughing.
So, I know that Shannon had todo the podcast by herself last
week, and her things better?
Can you tell us about that?
Things are better.
SPEAKER_01 (00:33):
Things are better.
Things have been enlighteningthis week.
You know, I was all up in myfeelings last week and one of my
associates, she said, she lookedat me and she goes, I don't know
where your joy is, but you needto go find it.
(00:54):
And I was like, what are youtalking about?
Because as we've talked about inthe past, I I was putting on the
perfect mask, right?
(01:31):
the people you know that gotupset with me or the people that
didn't like the changes that Iwere making that was the people
I rely on right that's the onesthat's the management team that
runs my building when I'm not inthe when I'm not there that's
the people that I rely on to getthings done that's the people
that you know that are supposedto have my back and I feel like
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everyone was upset because Iwanted to change things I had
spent five weeks in a Yeah.
(02:19):
And I got content.
(02:49):
And when they, you know, decidedthat they just wasn't happy with
the changes that I was making orwhen they decided that things
were going, you know, theydidn't want to be different, you
know, and they decided to leave,it hurt my feelings.
It made me feel, you know, itmade me feel a certain kind of
way.
And I don't know if that was, Idon't know what that was.
(03:15):
Yeah.
Fast forward past all of that.
Me and God have been fightingback and forth.
Well, I've been saying he's beensaying do.
And I've been saying, I don'tknow.
Right.
For the last month and a half.
(03:36):
And so I don't know if whathappened at work was as big as I
felt like it was, because.
The enlightenment that I've seenthis week was when I finally
said yes.
He said okay.
Right?
And everything seems better.
That's
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normally what happens when we get in
alignment.
You know, what did you sayearlier?
Obedience to God is your key tofreedom.
Always.
SPEAKER_01 (04:05):
That's going to be my new catch-along.
SPEAKER_00 (04:08):
That's going to be my new book.
SPEAKER_01 (04:12):
That's going to be your new book.
You're going to write a book?
Okay.
So...
In
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all the spare time that I have.
SPEAKER_01 (04:18):
I know, right?
Between all the grandbabies andstuff.
So...
He showed me a verse, John 16,15, so that you may have peace
in me here on earth.
You will have many trials andsorrows, but take heart because
I have overcome the world.
He gave me that verse and I waslike, OK, I hear you.
(04:41):
Right.
I hear you.
So what he's been wanting me todo is he's been wanting me to
post on Facebook talking aboutkind of the same thing.
Yeah.
(05:15):
I would, the video would bethere and I'd be like, oh my
God, look at my hair.
Or I can't, you know, I don'tknow how to use those filters on
that.
Or look, I've got a double chin.
Like I can't, I can't find theright angle or the light looks
bad or, you know, and I'm justlike, and then I would go and
watch.
Don't ever go watch TikToks.
(05:35):
I would go watch TikToks and I'dbe like, see, you know, you
know, that's a filter, right?
Like, you know, that's not real.
And, you know, but I don't knowhow to do all that.
And I would play with it and Iwould mess it up and then I
would be like, whatever.
And then I would start the videoand I would record the video and
then I would watch the video andI'd be like, no, I'm not posting
that.
So I delete it.
(05:56):
I haven't slept through thenight in the last month and a
half.
Like, and I kept blaming it onperimenopause and some, you
know, some, some, somesituations or issues or yes, but
I don't know.
don't believe that's what it wasI believe I believe that because
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I hadn't heard him like I do thesame drive every day right I
still listen to the same radiostation for an hour and 20
minutes there an hour and 20minutes home I listen to the
same DJs every day I listen youknow and usually when I'm
writing and a song comes on youknow you know I hadn't sent you
(06:41):
a text in weeks you know he'llgive me a word and I'm like
talking it into my phone andsending it to you so I don't
forget it before you know beforeI move on to something else I do
have a little bit of ADHD and Ihaven't done that in weeks I
haven't all I've heard is thenegativity that's all I've heard
(07:01):
in my head you know you're notgood enough you're failing you
know you're you know thesepeople don't care about you and
that's not true even even eventhe ones even the Right.
Right.
(07:44):
Even years, maybe, that hewalked with these people and he
trusted these people to tell hisstory and he trusted these
people to do, you know, to dothe things that, especially
after he left.
And when he got arrested,everybody ran away.
(08:06):
except for Mary Magdalene,right?
Everybody ran away except forher.
And I started studying, watchedthe show Chosen, and we just
finished the fourth season andwe're waiting on the fifth
season.
And, you know, it's leading upto where he gets arrested.
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But she's right beside himthrough it all.
She stands right with him.
She makes sure he has food toeat.
She makes sure he has things todrink.
And she's standing right therewith him the whole time.
who I want to be.
Right.
That's who I want to be.
But it's so easy.
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Like you said, in the very firstepisode, when we were talking
about or in the second episode,when we were talking about
chains, it's so easy to pick itup and play with it.
Right.
And I thought about that theother night.
I thought, oh, my God, I've beenpicking it.
I've been picking up those thatneed for perfection or that
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those insecurities.
And I've just been toying withit, you know, these last couple
weeks and that's not on anybodybut me right it's we're dating
it was like our third date andwe went out to eat and we come
back to our hat my house and Itold him I said you know it's
been raining that porch gets alittle slick and he steps up on
it and slide falls right and Ilaughed at him and I said I told
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you I felt like God has beensitting in there like okay you
want to go through this againall right you know yeah go ahead
you know hang off the side ofthe mountain for a while if
That's what you want to do.
But I posted the video on ourTikTok page, on unrelated
(09:52):
sisters.podcast on TikTok.
And I slept the best I've everslept.
I slept the best I slept inmonths the other night.
SPEAKER_00 (10:03):
You know, when he was saying, when he was trying
to do the video and you couldn'tget the right angle, you
couldn't get the right filter,get a filter.
I can hear the Lord saying,because I wanted her to be
authentic.
Mm-hmm.
You know, a lot of times we tryto, we see something and we're
like, mm-mm, he wants us to.
Because...
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He wants us to show the worldthe real us.
Right.
You know what I mean?
The real us.
The real, raw, unedited us.
SPEAKER_01 (10:31):
Yeah.
And so it's so much easiersitting here with this
microphone and no video, right?
And so how I got through it is Iset the microphone in front of
me and the video to the side ofme.
And it's video in me, but I'mtalking into the microphone.
And that's how I did it, right?
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That was the only way I couldget when I sat there and looked
at the video of myself in thevideo all I could hear was the
enemy all I could hear was youknow nobody wants to hear you
you ain't got nothing to say youknow and I'm like so I had to I
had to like mimic this thisatmosphere to be able to get
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through it which is I don't knowlike I stand up and talk to
people I stand I talk tohundreds of people a day it's
not like I have a Fear oftalking to the public or talking
to crowds.
I do it all the time.
I just couldn't.
Like, I just couldn't.
Like, it was just sooverwhelming at the thought of
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posting that first post.
Right.
And but you're right.
He wanted raw and he wantedreal.
And that's what he got.
Original.
The original me.
Yeah.
And that's, you know.
That's definitely what he got,you know, that.
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And don't get me wrong.
You know, I haven't beenpretending this whole time.
But the last podcast, you know,I cried.
I showed emotion.
I don't show emotion.
I don't do that.
Right.
Especially like at work.
Now I'll show it at home.
But at work and things likethat, I'm the leader.
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So I don't show emotion.
I don't show anger.
I don't show.
I don't do all of that.
Because at the end of the day, Imake the atmosphere in my
building and stuff.
So actually, I called Haley, theyoung girl from Hud's Heart, and
we were talking and I had to askher to do the podcast with me on
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the discernment of yes.
I've got one that I've had wroteup and I asked her to do it with
me.
But I didn't go.
I didn't take the stuff.
I just didn't go.
Right.
You invited me to go.
I was supposed to go with youlast week.
week to the women's shelter.
They weren't stopping me fromgoing.
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Nothing other than myself.
Right.
So I allowed the enemy to takeaway somebody's blessing,
because if I went that night,there would have been a
blessing.
And I know that now.
Right.
And I knew it then.
I just didn't get out of mypajamas.
UNKNOWN (13:24):
Right.
SPEAKER_01 (13:24):
I just didn't get out of my pajamas.
And so then I felt guilty,right?
And then I felt ashamed becauseI didn't go.
And then I let the enemyconvince me that it was okay.
I didn't go, right?
But it wasn't.
It wasn't okay.
I'm supposed to go, so we'regoing to go.
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Yes.
I'm supposed to, you know, I'msupposed to be a part of that.
I
SPEAKER_00 (13:51):
feel
SPEAKER_01 (13:52):
like you are.
I do, too.
I do, too.
And last week, and that's whatI'm saying, like, revival might
have broke out last week if I'dhave behaved.
It
SPEAKER_00 (14:00):
worked out, and...
They're going through sometransitions yourself.
And they're about to restock thewhole house.
And so they're down to a couplegirls now.
And so they're about to open thedoors back up in a couple more
weeks.
They're going to be full.
And I really feel like that.
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You know when you were sayingyour co-worker told you to get
some joy.
I know.
You know, Dad was preaching theother Sunday.
He was talking about how a lotof times we get in our feelings
and...
It's hard to find the joy.
It is.
You know what I mean?
And the Bible says the joy ofthe Lord is our strength.
So when we're not happy a lot oftimes or not have joy, there's a
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difference.
Then what?
Right.
Sometimes we sit in our stuff.
Yeah.
We're weak.
We don't have strength.
Yeah.
And so he was preaching, youknow, the Bible says to shout
for joy.
Yes.
To leap for joy.
Not when you have joy, you dothese things, but you do those
things to get joy.
You know, you dance for joy.
You sing for joy.
(15:03):
Yeah.
So when you find your So letthat echo when you say that.
(15:34):
look at you I mean you haveyou're such an inspiration to so
many and where you came from andwhere you are now and more tear
down your joy because of thepeople that you come in contact
with and that you pour into andif you're not in the position to
do those things then he feelslike he's won right and we don't
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want him to win and we're notgoing to let him win I said that
the other day I'm like you knowwhat I have fought too hard for
this for his family I will notlet you come in over something
crazy I refuse to let youdestroy what God has built.
And when you can get in thatmindset and get out of it, you
know what I mean?
But it's hard when you're upthere.
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It
SPEAKER_01 (16:14):
is.
It is.
And so you haven't watched theTikTok video, but in the video,
it's not today.
Yeah.
The enemy doesn't get my joy.
Not today.
SPEAKER_00 (16:29):
That's right.
SPEAKER_01 (16:30):
You know, sometimes you have to just, just not
today.
And Sometimes
SPEAKER_00 (16:36):
I think
SPEAKER_01 (16:38):
several times.
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And which goes to this verse.
SPEAKER_00 (17:06):
He says, I have told you all this that you may have
peace in me.
Have peace in him.
Here on earth you will have manytrials and sorrows, but take
heart because he's alreadydefeated Satan.
He holds the keys.
SPEAKER_01 (17:21):
And that's what I said.
I felt like he was standingthere like I did my husband
laughing at me saying, okay, Ijust told you.
And it all stemmed We did thatProverbs 31, women, and that
affected me, right?
Like, it affected me in a waythat negatively, in a way, kind
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of, you know, me and Keena havebeen through a lot in our past,
and we went through a lottogether in our past, and, you
know, and when I started gettingclose to God, Not just clean,
but when I started trying tofind my faith, I couldn't feed
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into the others.
I just had to let Kena go andlet Kena be.
That has bothered me a lot in mylife because she never truly had
peoples, but I couldn't healmyself in the time.
Then when she said that thingsthat she said like that played
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over and over and over in myhead a lot you know and at the
end of the day I feel like youknow that's one of those it made
me feel so good inside to hearher say that but then it made me
feel guilty for walking awayfrom her right which you know
(18:59):
she had to find her own waybecause she's more stubborn the
menu together and I would havenever been able to find where I
am and she knows that and I loveher and I'm not saying anything
out of way or any of that but itkind of started there when we
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did that Proverbs 31 I feel likeit just kind of started the
whole and it wasn't anythinganybody did it was you let him
whisper once he's gonna whisperagain he's gonna whisper again
you know what I mean like itwasn't that any anybody did
anything but I let the whisper Ilet the thought come in you know
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and it wasn't that day it was acouple days later right so it
was totally 100% the enemybecause at that moment God was
in the room and he you know butit was a few days later and then
that's when I started nothearing the radio Right.
Like the songs were playing andI was singing along, but I
wasn't hearing the radio.
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I wasn't hearing the music.
I wasn't hearing the hallelujah.
I wasn't feeling the presence ofGod.
I wasn't, you know, and then itjust boom, boom, boom, boom,
boom.
But he had been talking to meabout the whole video thing
weeks prior to us doing theProverbs 31.
And then I just let the whispercome in, you know, to cast
SPEAKER_00 (20:30):
down every thought, every imagination.
SPEAKER_01 (20:33):
Mm hmm.
SPEAKER_00 (20:33):
Hold it captive.
You know what I mean?
Hold something y'all didn'tknow.
You know what I mean?
Torment me.
So when you had those thoughts,you came back to the Lord.
I literally was fighting,feeling like I wasn't good
enough.
I didn't want to be witheverybody.
I didn't want to come to theclasses.
And I remember we talked aboutthis the last time, or not the
(20:54):
last time, a couple timesbefore, how we were going to the
Battle of the Mind classes.
And so Jason was teaching theclasses, and they were talking
about holding your thoughtscaptive.
And literally, and he would dothat.
You know, like literally peekingat his head and holding it.
And so you have in your hand, isthis true?
Is this no?
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Is this of God?
You know what I mean?
And if it's not, if it doesn'tfall under any of the truths of
what God says about you, cast itdown.
Right.
You know what I mean?
And so that helped me so much asI was growing.
Right.
Because when I had thosethoughts, is this me or is this
the enemy?
Is this God?
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It's not God because he wouldn'tsay those things
SPEAKER_01 (21:38):
about me.
And then it went from that tobeing disappointed in myself
because any other time, I'm asticky note person and it's all
over my mirror.
If I start feeling or start somekind of way, writing truths down
and sticking it up there to see,I didn't do none of that.
(21:59):
I tell y'all on this podcast todo it.
And then when I needed to do itI didn't
SPEAKER_00 (22:07):
do it you know what the good thing is God loves us
and he loves you just the same Iknow you know that's the good
thing about God is he'll let ussit in our mess and thumbs and
in our own craziness or our ownyou know things we're going
through and he's like okay yougonna let me help you I know you
(22:27):
gonna use the tools I've givenyou yeah like
SPEAKER_01 (22:29):
okay yeah I guess we
SPEAKER_00 (22:31):
need to get back to school I get it
SPEAKER_01 (22:33):
Yeah.
Yeah.
And that's how it's been thelast few days.
And I know you know that becauseI've been blowing you up.
Like, it's just been, bam, bam.
I love it.
I know.
I'm like, oh, that sounds good.
You know, oh, what about thatthought?
You know, and I'm just like,okay, see what you do to you.
And you do it to yourself,right?
(22:55):
And everybody's like, well, Godshouldn't let this happen or he
shouldn't let that happen or heshouldn't let this happen.
But if you sit down and thinkabout it, we do it to ourselves
I mean he didn't he didn't doany of that to
SPEAKER_00 (23:09):
me
SPEAKER_01 (23:10):
yeah he didn't do any of that to me right but he
stood there and waited until Iwas ready to listen until I was
ready to be like okay you knowbecause the minute and I did the
video and thought I posted itand I didn't post it because I
don't really know how to doTikTok right and so but that
night I went to bed and sleptlike a baby right I didn't did
(23:33):
the video i didn't delete it itwas on there just because i'm
malfunctioning doesn't meananything right but uh and so the
next day at work i asked one ofmy co-workers who follows the
podcast and she follows us ontiktok and i said did you see
that video i posted she goes youdidn't post a video i was like
yes i did and she's like no youdidn't and so i went on to the
(23:58):
podcast i went on to the tiktokchannel and i was like well
where's that video i know i'veposted it like and then I came
up here and it was in the draftswhen I got home it was in the
drafts so I actually posted itthen and you know but actually
doing it he freed me yeah fromall the anxiety and all of the
(24:19):
all of the emotions and thefeelings you know and you can't
live life on emotions for surebecause emotions are like roller
coasters right and they'll trickyou they will trick you into
thinking all kinds of differentthings or feeling all kinds of
different things.
SPEAKER_00 (24:39):
No feeling is final.
Like what you're feeling in thatmoment, that's not a final
feeling.
Nope.
Because right now I feel likeI'm going to feel like this
forever.
You know what I mean?
But you don't.
No.
That's the good news.
SPEAKER_01 (24:52):
Right.
And that's why there's adifference between joy and
happy.
Happy is a feeling and joy issomething that you choose.
So
SPEAKER_00 (25:02):
we choose to be happy.
We
SPEAKER_01 (25:04):
choose joy.
Yes, we do.
We choose to have joy ineverything that we do.
I just heard a song on the wayhere.
No, I don't know who sings it.
No, I don't know what the nameof it was, but I'm going to sing
my hallelujah.
right and you don't and that'snot literal right it's not okay
hallelujah hallelujah but whenanything happens small or big
(25:31):
and you say thank you because ashumans that's all we want right
we want recognition we wantpeople to tell us that we did a
good job we want people to thankus he wants the same things
right he wants when he big orsmall you know he just wants you
to thank him he wants you toacknowledge that he's there and
even in your mess right becausei because i thought okay you
(25:57):
know i hadn't been praying everymorning when i get up or i
hadn't been reading my verse ofthe day first thing right last
week and so i so i was like okayi'm gonna get back in my routine
and i'm gonna i'm gonna probablywant to open my eyes and i'm
gonna i'm gonna not readanything before i read the verse
of the day you know um and getinto them So I have to go back
(26:21):
now and read every one of thoseverses of the day because I'm
sure I missed something.
Last week, I'm sure I missedsomething somewhere because I
still wouldn't hear any.
Because the song that I heard onthe way here, it released last
week.
And I'm sure I heard it ahundred times, but I didn't hear
it.
(26:41):
And it's not like I don't knowthat.
Right.
Yeah.
It's not like I don't know thesethings in my head or in my
heart.
SPEAKER_00 (26:53):
That's just part of it sometimes.
I think we've been walking thiswalk with Christ and that
everything's going to be perfectand we're going to know how to
do all the things right.
It's just how it is sometimes.
You find yourself in certainsituations or circumstances.
You know what?
Because life be laughing.
Life be laughing.
You know what?
God's so God.
He is.
(27:14):
He
SPEAKER_01 (27:14):
is.
He's so good and worthy.
He is.
He is.
you know it's been watch whatyou pray for that's right right
and it's not that i pray forthis but and i and i've brought
this up we've talked about thisi feel like i've been through so
much in life to get where i amtoday that i don't have chaos i
(27:37):
do have chaos that was chaoslike this whole last month and a
half has been chaos you know andi'm like like where did that
come from you And it makes youwonder sometimes, where does the
chaos come from?
It comes from you.
I'm just going to tell you.
It comes from you.
Your chaos, any chaos you havein life, it comes from you.
(27:59):
It's choices you make.
It's choices you decide to notlisten to or choices you don't
make, things you try to ignore.
If you have chaos in life, it'syou.
It's all you.
Because I haven't had chaos in along time emotionally or me
personally.
You know what I mean?
like life is life and life islaughing, right?
(28:21):
But that's not chaos.
That's just life.
I'm talking about internalchaos.
Like I have been havinginternal.
I said,
SPEAKER_00 (28:31):
okay, Lord, where did I miss it?
Show me.
And then he wrote it like it isyou.
Okay, I just need your yes.
And then you did it.
And guess what?
You got some peace and you gotsome sleep.
SPEAKER_01 (28:43):
I did.
And it's like, show me.
It's like, that's how my castingcounts.
Show me who I am.
show me what you want you knowand it's insane so I mean I
don't know like that was good Soa new verse that I've been on
(29:07):
since the revelation of my lifeis Galatians 6, 9.
And let us not grow weary whiledoing good.
For in due season we shall reapif we do not lose heart.
And that's going right back toit, right?
It's going right back to wherewe are.
And
SPEAKER_00 (29:25):
keep going.
Keep going.
Keep
SPEAKER_01 (29:29):
going.
Pick your pants
SPEAKER_00 (29:31):
up.
SPEAKER_01 (29:32):
One foot in front of the other.
One step at a time.
You know, I tell them at workall the time, especially like
the holidays are coming and theholidays are chaos, right?
We do a lot of business.
We do a lot of sales.
There's a lot of people in ourbuilding, you know, and some
days are harder than others.
And we're not used to thatbecause we run such a good
(29:52):
business that, you know, otherthan November and December,
we're pretty good at not havingchaos in the building.
And, you know, and so they startgetting weary, you know, two or
three weeks in of the holiday.
And, you know, and they'll belike, oh, it wasn't like this
last year.
It
SPEAKER_00 (30:11):
was.
It was.
Yeah, it was.
Yeah.
Yeah, it has.
Yeah,
SPEAKER_01 (30:17):
it has.
Like, and it's so funny how youcan relate everyday life back to
God every time.
Like, every time.
Like, you know, right in themiddle of it.
He's always standing right inthe middle of it, you know.
And I haven't done it yet.
and I've done it every yearsince I've been there so I guess
I'll do it next week or so butfor the holiday season like I
(30:41):
pray him into the building likeI invite him into the building
which I do every day but like Iliterally walk around the
building and invite him inbecause he's the only way we
keep peace during the holidaysbecause holidays get rough you
know but but just not growingweary right while doing good you
(31:03):
know and And doing good is...
hard sometimes you know givingto others and giving into others
and sowing into others you knowand that's that's new for me
right like i guess i've alwaysgiven to people but just not
like i have been lately you knowit's been more and more and uh
(31:25):
and it's weary sometimes likeit's lonely
SPEAKER_00 (31:28):
we're doing good doing good me and you're doing
the things you're trying you'retrying to soundtrack you're
trying to and then you but youfeel like you just hit the wall
You got friends that arebetraying you.
You got being disobedient.
SPEAKER_01 (31:43):
Being disobedient.
It all boils down to beingdisobedient.
SPEAKER_00 (31:48):
Let me tell you, you know, obedience to God is your
key to freedom.
Oh my God.
SPEAKER_01 (31:52):
Like, we need a t-shirt.
And that's what it all boilsdown to.
During this last month and ahalf, it really doesn't.
None of that matters.
If I hadn't been disobedient, itall still would have happened.
It just wouldn't have affectedme the same way.
(32:12):
Right?
Like, it doesn't matter thecircumstances in life.
It matters where you are withHim.
Because at the end of the day,you're still going to go through
the circumstances.
You're still going to go throughwhatever the chaos is.
But it's how we see the chaos inthe end.
SPEAKER_00 (32:35):
Yeah.
That's good.
Well, I'm glad you're good.
I am good.
How have you been?
Oh, I'm good.
I'm so happy.
Work's slowing down.
Work's slowing down.
I know.
Your year slows down.
Yeah, so like the last fewmonths has been very, it's like
y'all's holiday season.
Yeah.
Because we're building shows.
The displays for the holidayseasons.
(32:57):
For the holiday, like exactly,the fall and holiday.
All the new good stuff.
So, I don't know.
I was telling somebody the otherday, I said, I don't know.
I thought about a month ago, Idon't know if I can do this now.
I was rethinking all my lifechoices.
God brought me through it.
And, you know, I just had to.
It was rough, but I just said,you know what?
(33:19):
Lord, you're teaching me stuffthrough this.
Yeah, because it's hard tomanage.
I've never managed 100 people.
SPEAKER_01 (33:26):
Well.
SPEAKER_00 (33:27):
Ever.
SPEAKER_01 (33:28):
Oh, my God.
And then you have 100 differentpersonalities and then your own
personality.
Welcome to my life.
One of the
SPEAKER_00 (33:33):
girls told me she came to the homeless shelter
with me last week.
She's I said, it's crazy atwork, and Deb can literally walk
in, and she's glowing.
Like, she glows through the oakplant.
And I'm like, well, that'snothing to do with me.
That's Jesus, because some daysI don't like everybody.
Right?
I don't like people.
Yeah.
And I definitely don't wantpeople today.
But I do.
I try to be intentional and justbe in the light for Jesus.
(33:57):
And I know that—and you knowthis, Ben, this story— We may be
the only Jesus that people see.
Oh, yeah.
For sure.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
How we portray Jesus.
SPEAKER_01 (34:08):
Yep.
SPEAKER_00 (34:09):
You know what I mean?
No pressure.
SPEAKER_01 (34:10):
No pressure.
No.
Yeah.
But even going through thiswhole the last month and a half,
like I still went in everymorning and I smiled and I
wished everybody
SPEAKER_00 (34:19):
a good morning.
They know when I'm up to that,what's going on.
SPEAKER_01 (34:23):
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_00 (34:26):
God is good.
SPEAKER_01 (34:27):
My excuse is and I'm giving up my my secret I just
don't feel good
SPEAKER_00 (34:33):
oh yeah
SPEAKER_01 (34:33):
I just don't feel good I'm sorry I just don't I'm
tired I just don't feel good youknow yeah yeah all those things
yeah all the things yeah
SPEAKER_00 (34:43):
and I didn't make that video that Lord told me
SPEAKER_01 (34:45):
to yeah I didn't do what I didn't I was disobedient
but you know it made mephysically sick yeah like it
made me like I thought I had abrain tumor not really I I'm not
a hypochondriac so I don't eventhink like that I kept thinking
it was sinuses so I just kepttaking sinus medicine but I had
(35:06):
headaches isn't that what I was
SPEAKER_00 (35:09):
supposed
SPEAKER_01 (35:10):
to
SPEAKER_00 (35:11):
do
SPEAKER_01 (35:12):
and your health and everything else like behave just
listen you know and that's allyou know and as a mom that's all
I want I just want my kid tobehave and you know and call me
every now and again or you knowdon't take four days to answer
my text back that's good Heh hehheh.
(35:33):
He's 21 in some days.
(36:03):
Sometimes we have to do what'shealing for us and hope that our
listeners enjoy it.
Please, if you like it, shareit.
Share it with other sisters.
Share it with other groups.
We will be in Rock Mart at HolyNight of Worship on September
(36:27):
the 6th.
We will have a booth set up ifyou are close or if you have a
friend we're going to try and dosome special things come by and
pray with us come by and see usespecially if you listen to the
podcast we'll be supportingHud's Heart I have some really
(36:47):
cool things that we're going tobe selling and all the money we
make will go to Hud's Heart but
SPEAKER_00 (36:56):
pray with me yes we love you tonight and we thank
you for this time Lord it hasbeen encouraging to me And I
pray that it's encouraging toeveryone listening.
Lord, I just thank you that thisweek, that any thoughts that's
not of you, Lord, that you wouldjust silence the voice of the
enemy, Lord, and that we wouldbe able to think on the good
(37:17):
things of you and that we'd beable to see ourselves the way
you see us.
And Lord, that we'll be able tosay yes and be obedient, Lord,
so we don't have to keep goingaround the same mountain.
And we thank you, Lord, thatobedience to God is your key to
freedom.
In Jesus' name, amen.
Amen.
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