June 6, 2025 • 36 mins
This episode is completely unscripted, unfiltered, and from the heart. Shannon and Deborah open up about seasons of spiritual drought, division at home, and feeling like God’s voice has gone quiet. Deborah shares her deeply personal journey of battling emotional turmoil in her marriage, the heaviness of unanswered prayers, and the moment God showed up through the power of intercession. Together, the sisters talk about the danger of letting small compromises open the door for the enemy — and how prayer, accountability, and community can bring breakthrough.
If your house feels heavy, if you’re weary from the fight, or if you just need someone to say, “You’re not alone,” this conversation is for you.
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Speaker 01 (00:01):
Dear Heavenly Father God, we love you tonight, Lord,
and we just thank you for thisopportunity to speak.
to other women, Lord, and wejust pray, Lord, that you would
just speak through me andShannon as we be vulnerable
tonight, as we be transparent.
God, I just ask you to haveyour way tonight, Jesus, and
bless every person listening tothis podcast.
In Jesus' name, amen.
Speaker 02 (00:23):
Amen.
Welcome back, family, and thisis Unrelated Sisters Truth and
Grace Conversation, and I'mShannon.
Speaker 00 (00:30):
And I'm Deb.
Speaker 02 (00:31):
And we're so glad that you've decided to join us
today.
This podcast is going to be aMe and Deb talked about it
today, and we feel like we'veboth just been in a season of
lost or a season of trials, aseason of inviting the enemy
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into our homes.
l I said it earlier today.
I feel like God usually comesto me, you know, and says, this
is what you're going to talkabout this week.
And for some reason, I'm notlistening.
I can't hear him.
And I don't know if it's thestress of last week.
I don't know if it's life hasjust gotten in the way over this
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last week or so, but that'swhere we've decided to talk
today.
So this is 100% unscripted.
It's going to be completelytransparent and from the heart.
So, Go ahead and lets getstarted.
Speaker 01 (01:29):
So as I was telling you earlier, this has probably
been one of the hardest seasonsthat I've been through in a long
time.
You think after you get savedand that you're living right and
you're doing all the rightthings, that life's going to be
easy, but sometimes it don't gothat way.
And for me and my family, thishas been...
And I just want to share thistonight to encourage...
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other wives um or moms oranybody that may be standing in
the gap for a family member ormaybe fighting a battle in your
family where you feel like theenemy's coming and causing
division um this past seasonprobably for the past few months
now me and kevin have not beeni would say on the same page
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spiritually um and that's okaysometimes you know a lot of
times uh I think he feelsinadequate.
And so he really allowed thevoice of the enemy to tell him
that he wasn't measuring up orhe wasn't cold or that he just
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wasn't a good person.
And so through compromise, Ithink that we allow the enemy to
We opened doors in our home,even through music.
We had had words because ofthe—and he doesn't care for me
sharing this.
I shared it Saturday.
We're super transparent, and Ifeel like that's the only way to
be.
But, you know, I'm big on whatI listen to.
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Since I have gave my life backto God, I'm not—and it wasn't
that I was being judgmental toHim.
I think the Bible says that youcan judge—there's a righteous
way to do it where you're not— Imean, there's, it's truth and
there's not, you know what Imean?
So he was listening anyway.
So he was listening to musicthat doesn't glorify God.
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I'll just say that.
And he thought it was okay.
And so repeatedly I would saythings to him, like what you're
about, what you're listening to.
And so to him, he was hearingthat I was trying to judge him.
And, um, So, and that's how theenemy works too, to cause
division in your home.
So he wasn't seeing it as thatI was trying to help him.
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He was just seeing, I wastrying to judge him.
So anyway, it was causing, youknow, the enemy comes in and
causes division little bylittle.
And so finally I got to where Iwasn't saying anything to him,
but it got to the point whereour house had became, and it
wasn't just to the music he waslistening to.
It was things that we couldhave just done better together,
you know?
And so we, we were just, goingthrough the motions really in
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our marriage.
And I was to the point a coupleof weeks ago that I was ready
to go.
I was ready to leave.
I had had enough.
We were arguing almost everysingle day.
And I know that if you see myFacebook post or you see me in
person, you think, you know,everything's good and But a lot
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of times when you're fightingthese battles, I didn't feel
like at the moment it wassomething for me to share at the
time that things that I wasgoing through.
So it was something I wasreally in prayer about.
And I was really I was fastingand I was believing God to
change my husband's heart andlet us become one again.
But I was doing all thesethings and I wasn't seeing the
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fruit of none of it.
And I was felt like literallythat my prayers were hitting the
wall.
Like, God, are you even hearingme?
Like, where are you?
Because if you don't changesomething, I'm leaving.
And I had got to the pointwhere I was even figuring out,
like, how I would pay the bills.
In fact, I was like, I couldjust go live with my mom.
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And so finally, two or threeweeks ago, I did open up to my
parents how I was feeling.
And they tried to only becausesometimes it is good to go to
your and not just because myparents, I know that they are
have wisdom in those areas.
And I know that they couldtarget their prayers towards us.
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And I know that they would dothat.
And so I talked with him aboutkind of what was going on, how
he was acting.
He wasn't being abusive, but hewas being kind.
He was saying things that heshouldn't be saying.
You know what I mean?
And so sometimes words hurtworse than the physical abuse.
So maybe there was someemotional abuse, too, going on.
And I have come to the point inmy life where I was just like,
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you know what?
I've done come past all this.
I've done been through allthis.
And I'm not going through this.
I know my worth today, and I'mgoing to set these boundaries.
And that was big for me.
And so I told God, Last Sunday,Sunday before last, God, if you
don't do something, if youdon't change me or him, or if
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it's me, change me.
I know there's things that Ican change, but you're going to
have to do something.
This is turmoil in my house.
It's chaos, and I don't want tolive this way, and I don't want
to have Oren going throughthis.
And so on Tuesday night, wedidn't even speak all day
Monday.
Tuesday, he had the flu.
Tuesday night, I went to aBible study.
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with a group of women, and hewas on my specific prayer list
to pray for him.
And so as the lady began topray for him, she started
calling him to his identity,because I couldn't even call him
out to his identity anymore.
I couldn't.
To be honest with you, I wasdone praying.
I had reached that point.
I didn't have the strength topray.
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pray for it anymore becausei've been praying and praying
and praying i wasn't seeingnothing happening so i was just
like you know what god and godknew he knew i was at that place
in my life and he knew that ihad asked him for help and i
cried he knew i was desperateand so um as i got into this
prayer meeting and i began topray and speak for kevin to rise
up to be the godly husband andbe the the man of the house and
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be the leader that all thethings i had been praying for
she didn't even know i've beenpraying for these things but she
was calling it out and I reallyfelt like I got a breakthrough.
We locked arms that night.
And sometimes I feel like youreally need to lock arms with
some women.
Let me and you do, Shannon,too.
Lock arms and get plugged inwith women that will go to war
with you.
Speaker 02 (07:33):
Oh, yeah.
You definitely need that whenyou're in a season of trials or
trauma.
Discouragement.
Speaker 01 (07:42):
I was so
Speaker 02 (07:43):
discouraged.
Or where you feel like God'snot listening, right?
You need that intercessor thatis going to...
get down with you in thetrenches, pray with you, pray
over you, pray for you, right?
And I heard something the otherday, it's been a few weeks ago,
and it said, they said, I'llcall somebody to pray for me
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before I pray for myself.
But when you've prayed andyou've prayed and you've prayed,
that's when you got called.
That's when you've got to reachout.
You've got to reach out to yourmom or to your dad or your
mentor or your pastor or anotherwoman.
Somebody that you know is goingto be able to understand, not
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judge.
Somebody that's going to beable to pray.
As we've been doing thispodcast, we've been asking for
our listeners, what do you needprayer for?
Let us pray for you.
We haven't received thatresponse and it makes me feel
like, like, and I guess I'vebeen struggling with this this
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week, right?
I guess my season or where I'mat right now is I don't know
where we're headed.
Right.
And not knowing to me isprobably one of the scariest
things in the world.
But as far as you and Kevin go,and as far as we'll get back to
me in a minute, as far as whatyou've been going through, you
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know, We've prayed over ittogether.
We've discussed it off of thepodcast together.
And the two of you have comethrough so much, right?
Deep down, you don't want togo, right?
But Jesus had to step in.
And it sounds like he steppedin pretty big.
Speaker 00 (09:31):
He did.
Speaker 02 (09:31):
Right?
Yeah.
Tell them the second part.
Tell them about what happened
Speaker 01 (09:36):
on Wednesday.
So that was on Tuesday night.
I went to the prayer meeting.
I went home on Tuesday nightand didn't speak to him again,
even though he was sick.
And I was really bitter at him.
I'm just going to be honest.
I was really bitter.
Because I feel like I'm justwasted all this time.
And I even told him, which Ihad to repent and ask him for
forgiveness.
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I had told him, if I had knownfour years ago that it was going
to be like this, I would havenever waited on you.
And I told him that.
But at the moment, I meantthat.
I'm just going to be real.
I meant that.
Because I was like, it wasn'tsupposed to be like this.
You told me this and this.
And I had seen this.
I had seen you be a differentway.
I'd seen you be the man, theKevin, the mighty man of God.
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And then to see you gobackwards, it was just super
frustrating.
And so Wednesday night, he camein and said, He was like, hey,
can we do something?
And I was like, what?
He said I was like to get up inthe morning and 30 minutes
early and start doing devotiontogether again.
I'm like, okay.
So I didn't say nothing elseabout it.
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I said, okay, because I didn'twant to push nothing because I
wasn't even trying to get him todo devotion with me.
I was just doing my thing withme and God.
And because I always felt likehe thought I was just pushing
him to do stuff, and I didn'twant it to be like that.
I didn't want him to doanything out of performance or
because of me.
I wanted him to do it becausehe wanted to do it.
Yeah, because if not, it's invain anyway, right?
(11:01):
Yeah, and so the next morning,his alarm goes off at 4 o'clock,
and I'm like, Lord, he's forreal about this.
So I get up with him, and weget our coffee, and he pulls out
his Bible, and he's like, allright, Lord, what do you want me
to read to my wife today?
So he gets over in Corinthiansand starts reading to me about
love.
And we're really laughing aboutthings because I'm like, see,
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they weren't God speaking toyou.
And then he would say it back.
So he was reading aloud to methe whole time.
And then so when he got done, Isaid, well, I'll pray for us
for the day.
And we hadn't did that in along time either together.
And so I said the prayer andprayed just for us for the day.
And when I ended the prayer, hepicked up.
Where I left off and he said,God, help me with the things
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that I struggle with.
Help me to be a better husband.
Help me to be the man thatyou've called me to be.
Help me to be a better dad.
And he said a really goodprayer.
And so when he gets donepraying, I'm bawling, crying
because I'm like, this is whatI've been.
It was a breakthrough momentfor us.
And so he had an encounter withGod.
And I know it was during ourprayer meeting or during that
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night or during the dayWednesday.
I know God intervened because.
Kevin's a different persontoday.
Kevin is the man I knew before.
You know what I mean?
That when he came back to Godand surrendered his life back to
God and he was just loving andwhich I know every day is not
going to be.
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I know you're going to haveyou're going to go through
things and you're going to getupset and things like that.
But when I tell you it was justcomplete turmoil in our house
and now the atmosphere hascompletely changed like crazy.
My house is just so peacefulnow.
And we literally, he's beensubmerging in Billy Graham.
And when I had sent him a songfrom Brandon Lake on YouTube, he
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called me and he's like, I'mnot going to listen to YouTube.
For him, it was just to cut itoff, the music.
And I didn't tell him to.
I didn't ask him to.
So I know how to be a God bang.
You know what I mean?
And so he was like, I'm justgoing to listen to some
preaching because he reallylikes to listen to preaching.
So now he's got me more.
Like I've been listening tothings and it's really been
helping the both of us.
And so now we're being able toshare that with each other, what
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we're listening to throughoutthe day, what we're learning,
things that I've been prayingfor for the last over a year.
And I said all that to say thatjust when we think it's the end
and just when we think thatit's over or that we've done all
that we can do and we sit stilland just let God do it, It's
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amazing how things change, and Ican't say it enough, and you
just had to have been there withus every day, what it's been
like these past few months, andto have been there this past
week, how it's been a total,total change in my house.
Speaker 02 (13:53):
Well, you know, I heard this the other day on the
radio, and they said, you know,David's head was put in the
mouth of a lion.
We don't, and he walked out thenext day, right?
And we don't see that kind ofgrace.
But do we?
I mean, it sounds like to me,you've seen it this week.
Yeah, for sure.
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It sounds like to me that, youknow, what you've been praying
for and what you've been needingfrom God and what your
relationship has been needing.
You walked out of the firetoday.
You know, you walked out, youwalked out, you know, you and
Kevin walked out together handin hand.
And, you know, we may not.
face a giant and we may not youknow we may not find a burning
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bush but to me that's theultimate grace right what he
what he shared with y'all thisweek is the ultimate grace and i
just want to touch on wherekevin came from to where he is
today there's going to bemoments where he's not going to
feel good enough right there'sgoing to be times that Because
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he's a real baby in his faith.
He wasn't raised in faith.
He wasn't raised with Godaround him.
He wasn't raised in thosetimes.
He's met God through you andthrough your family.
And so he's truly an infant inhis faith.
And he's grown up fast with it,right?
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So he's going to have thosemoments.
And you being able to pray forhim for over the last year, you
know, and get to a point whereyou're just done.
But being able to stop for amoment and say, okay, God, look,
I need something.
You know, that's giving grace.
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That's showing grace, you know,to your partner and to your
lover.
And it's...
Speaker 01 (15:53):
It's almost like it's– and I texted him this the
other day.
I said it's like God has–because I had told him two weeks
ago, I said, listen, I loveyou, but I'm not in love with
you no more.
And I meant that.
And that's why we can't go offof our feelings because even
though I didn't– I knew I– Ididn't feel like I loved him,
but I knew I did.
You know what I mean?
So– Just because you don't feellike it on those days doesn't
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mean you can just up and leave.
You know what I mean?
And so I even told him theother day, I said, I really feel
like that God has ignited a newlove back in me for you.
He took the blinders off myeyes to let me see him the way
he sees him.
And I think he did that forKevin, too.
One of the things Ashley prayedover him was that God would—she
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said, I see an acceleration inhim.
And I'm seeing that like God isjust, this is things he's
speaking in the wisdom.
Just in this past week, I'mlike, where did you even hear
that?
Where did you learn that from?
You know what I mean?
And it's always been, it's beenin there.
You just have been hiding it.
You know what I'm saying?
But I'm just so grateful todaythat God loves us right in the
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middle of our mess.
And that even these seasonsthat are ugly, that nobody knows
about.
That you don't want nobody toknow about because you want it
to, you know, because I know theLord has called us into so many
things.
We're doing this podcast.
I'm doing this Bible study withthese young women.
And you know when you're doingthings for the Lord and walking
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in your calling and yourfulfillment, I know the enemy is
going to, the main thing he'sgoing to try to do is fight your
family.
Oh,
Speaker 02 (17:25):
yeah.
Because that's the one place hecan get
Speaker 01 (17:27):
us.
Yeah.
Speaker 02 (17:27):
That's the one place he
Speaker 01 (17:29):
knows.
And distract you.
I was so distracted.
Speaker 02 (17:32):
Yes.
From where we're supposed
Speaker 01 (17:33):
to be.
Yeah.
Speaker 02 (17:35):
And he knows that, right?
As mothers, he knows thatattacking our family is going
to...
take us off course or you knowpoint us make us look at
something differently than wherewe should be looking at it you
know and just because we do thispodcast or just because we do
the women's group with thepeople and just because you know
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god is calling us to do allthese things doesn't mean we're
not human
Speaker 01 (18:02):
oh for sure
Speaker 02 (18:02):
right it doesn't mean that we don't make mistakes
or we don't see things wrongright sometimes i have to hit my
knees and pray
Speaker 03 (18:11):
right
Speaker 02 (18:12):
sometimes i have to you know i have to do i have to
ask questions right um we werelaughing downstairs before we
come up here to do the podcastand uh we were talking about uh
cleaning my house before youcome over every week and
Speaker 01 (18:29):
i don't know why she does that because i don't care
Speaker 02 (18:31):
Right.
You know, but I can't.
I can't let company in my housewithout my house being clean.
There can't be dirty dishes inthe sink.
The tables have to, you know,there can't be clutter sitting
around everywhere.
There just can't be.
I just can't do it.
Right.
Just because that's the way welive from day to day.
When company is coming over, wecan't.
I can't be that way.
I have to.
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And my son laughs at me.
But the minute I said today'sWednesday and Debra's coming
over, he's like, I got to goclean my bathroom.
And he jumps up and runsupstairs.
Unknown (19:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 02 (19:00):
you know to clean his you know he's like my
bathroom's a mess and i've madehim that way right i've made him
that way but it's okay you knowi don't mop the floors and wash
the windows like i do forchristmas and thanksgiving when
people are coming over or thefourth of july like next week
i'm on vacation i will I willwash my porch and get all the
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outside ready for company tocome.
When it's just everyday dirt,the dirt's going to still be
there when they come, but I'mstill going to do it because
that's just how it is.
I appreciate the things thatGod has given me.
I appreciate this house.
I appreciate the materialthings that God has given us
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because I've never had it.
Speaker 03 (19:46):
Right.
Speaker 02 (19:47):
I've never had it.
But like my husband, you know,today I've been frustrated with
him lately and not reallyfrustrated.
Not like we don't we're notfighting and arguing, but
there's times that I just get.
So I work 80 hours a week.
I drive an hour and 20 minutesto work every day, an hour and
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20 minutes home every day.
So I'm on the road for threehours a day, five days a week.
You know, the two days I'm off,I'm cleaning the house, I'm
washing clothes, I'm cleaningthe kitchen, I'm doing all the
wifely things, and sometimes Iget burnt out.
Speaker 03 (20:25):
I get
Speaker 02 (20:25):
tired.
I get frustrated, right?
I mean, I come home last night,and I didn't get home until
like 9.30 last night.
I had to work late, and Ididn't get home until like 9.30
last night.
And I told him, I was like, youneed to stop and we can do some
dinner, because it's going tobe like 9.30, 10 o'clock before
I get home.
So he had stopped.
Well, He stopped at Checkerswhile his bag was sitting in the
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seat on the couch.
And we sit in the love seattogether.
That's our seat.
And so I sat down on the othercouch.
And he's like, you can't pickit up and throw it away.
I'm like, no, it's your trash.
It didn't hurt me to pick it upand throw it away.
Right.
But that's been frustrating for
Speaker 03 (21:03):
me.
Speaker 02 (21:04):
But not talking about my husband.
This last week...
Usually on Sunday afternoon.
I usually get up on Sundays andI come upstairs here to where
the podcast is and I turn on myworship music and, you know, and
I sit down at the computer andme and God have a conversation
and we talk about the upcomingweek and we talk about the
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podcast and we talk about what'shappened over the week and just
all of that.
And then Monday morning, goingto work.
God bless.
slaps me in the face with whatwe're supposed to talk about
this week.
I didn't do that this Sunday.
I didn't come up here.
I didn't spend time with him uphere in this room.
And I've been coming up hereand praying every Sunday and
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just spending time with him uphere.
And I didn't do that thisSunday.
And Monday, he didn't slap mein the face.
Right.
And then I know you weregetting worried because you text
me yesterday and you were
Speaker 01 (22:02):
like, I didn't hear her.
I'm not.
That's not like Shannon.
Right.
And for me, it's normal.
You might not hear me to thatday, but Shannon's usually
prepared.
Speaker 02 (22:11):
Yeah.
I'm usually right on it.
Right.
I already know what we'redoing.
I already, you know, I'velistened and it's like, I told
you, it's like, I don't hear himthis week.
Like I don't hear him.
And I, Or I don't feel him.
I don't feel his presence.
I don't feel, like I just feeldistracted.
But I don't know what went.
Like I don't know, I don't knowif, because last week was a big
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deal for my company and a bigdeal for my store.
You know, we had in-storeinventory and that's three days
of very long hours, very, youknow, being very focused on
what's going on in the building.
I don't know if that's gotme...
Something has me distracted.
And I don't know what it is.
And I don't know...
And I'm not doubting that thepodcast is not God-fed, God-led.
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Not 100%.
Because I know that's what itis.
I know this is what God wantsus to do.
And I know, you know, I'vehad...
umpteen people this week tellme, oh, your podcast is so good.
Like every episode is so great,you know?
And, and, but I think it'sbecause I want people to
interact with us, right?
Like I want the listeners tosend us prayer requests.
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I want the listeners to commenton things.
And I never needed validationfor anything that I do.
Cause when I do something, Iput my whole heart into it and I
know I'm doing the best that Ican do.
But for some reason, like thisweek, like I feel like I need
validation for what we're doing.
Speaker 03 (23:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 02 (23:47):
You know, when we first started this, you know, I
brought you over and we had thatconversation that when stuff
gets hard or when I get boredwith it, like I'm ready.
I'm just done.
Right.
We talked about all theequipment I have for making
T-shirts.
And, you know, if I want to doone or two, it's easy.
But if I got to do more thantwo, it's complicated.
And I don't want to do that.
I'd rather pay somebody to doit.
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You know, and I don't know if.
if that's where I'm at in mymind, but it's all in my mind.
Cause it's definitely not in my
Speaker 03 (24:15):
heart,
Speaker 02 (24:16):
you know?
And I don't know, I'm feeling,I don't know.
It's not, I'm not overwhelmed.
It's not like I have, I don't,I'm not like you, you know, I
don't have baseball games andcheerleading practice and I
don't have, you know, I don'thave team birthday parties to go
to.
I don't, you know, all I haveis work and this podcast and
then, you know, whatever,whatever, You know, me and my
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husband are together orwhatever.
It's not like I'm overwhelmedwith things going on in my life.
But this week, I've just feltblah.
Yeah.
Blah.
And when I try to spend timewith God, it's like my mind goes
somewhere else.
Like, because usually on mydrive to work or drive home,
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That's when I worship, right?
And I've been playing my music.
Like, that's not changed.
Like, I've been listening tothe radio, you know, and usually
the DJs say something thatsparks something in my mind or
sparks something in my heart,you know, that makes me want to
research it.
Because, you know, when youlisten to the DJs for three
hours a week or three hours aday, seven days a week, you
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know, they have to say somethingprofound, right?
You know, and I talk about alot of things that I hear on the
radio, but like this week, it'slike I didn't hear anything
they said.
Unknown (25:29):
Mm-hmm.
Which, how?
Speaker 02 (25:32):
Like, I still drove, right?
I was still in the car.
The radio was still on.
But I just felt distracted thisweek.
And I guess that's why thepodcast has went this direction
this week.
Speaker 01 (25:46):
God knew.
Speaker 02 (25:47):
And maybe that's what we need.
Maybe that's what I needed.
Speaker 01 (25:51):
It didn't have to be outlined or just come in and...
Maybe
Speaker 02 (25:57):
talking it out is what I needed to do.
Oh,
Speaker 01 (26:00):
yeah, for sure.
Speaker 02 (26:01):
You know, about, I don't know, about needing, you
know, somebody to pat me on theback.
I don't know.
Because that's weird for me.
Like, you know, like Kim wastalking about earlier today,
like, I do all kinds of thingsfor the community, right, and
where my store is.
And I do, I don't do it out ofcuriosity.
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because 90% of the time, nobodyknows I do it.
I don't do it for recognition.
I do it because I have themeans to do it.
My company gives me theopportunity to feed back into
the community that we're in, andI enjoy it.
So 90% of the time, thecommunity doesn't know that
we're the ones funding thethings that are going on or that
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we're the ones that aredonating the stuff that they're
using and all that stuff.
But it brings me joy to be apart of it and to be in the
shadows But like, I don't know,like this week, I just, I feel
like I need, I feel, you know,and it's emotion.
It's an emotion, right?
You can't go off your emotions.
I mean, I guess this is whatthis whole podcast has been
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about, right?
You can't go off your emotionsbecause it's an emotional thing,
right?
It's not because I don't needfoundation.
I get validation from the oneI'm supposed to get it from.
Right.
You know, he makes me positiveand he gives me joy every day.
And like you said, nothing orno one is ever going to take
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that joy away from me again.
Right.
I'm not ever going to putmyself in the situations to
where my joy is in question.
I refuse.
I refuse.
I'm just not ever going to bethere again.
Right.
I think when we go throughseasons, um,
Speaker 01 (28:09):
We forget sometimes.
I don't know.
I think sometimes things arejust going good.
And then when we do hit thosebumpy roads, we're like, wait,
what is this?
You know, we can just go to theLord and just, Lord, what is it
that's distracting me?
What is it that's hindering mefrom hearing your voice, being
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in your presence?
Whatever it is, remove it.
Or come on these podcasts andbe transparent and just talk it
out.
And you're like, won't you talkit out sometimes?
Sometimes.
You're like, well, Lord.
That's all you really need todo.
Yeah, all I really need to dois just vent and talk to
somebody about it.
But tonight, I really just wantto encourage the women, the
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men, whoever's listening, thatwhen you're going through hard
times and you're going throughthese seasons and you feel like
your prayers are bouncing offthe walls or you feel like
you're not hearing God's voiceor the enemy's causing division
in your family, just hold on.
Just hold on.
I was thinking if I had left onthat Monday night or Sunday
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night, what would it look like?
Speaker 02 (29:17):
Where would you be?
Speaker 01 (29:18):
Yeah, if I hadn't went on to the Bible study.
Because I wasn't even going togo.
She posted it on Facebook andmy daughter wanted to go.
And so anytime that she istrying to get involved, I try to
go with her to support her.
Yeah.
Because I had been praying inthat area as well.
And so I was like, yeah, I'llgo.
And then my mom said she wouldgo.
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So it really was all of us andthen two or three of them.
And not only did I get abreakthrough, but my daughter
did as well.
She was able to walk throughsome unforgiveness that she had
held.
And so I really think when wethink we're not hearing from
God, we really are.
Because the Lord was telling meto go that night and be
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obedient.
And I'm glad that I did.
And I'm glad that I didn't giveup.
Speaker 02 (30:04):
Well, I mean, we wouldn't be here today if God
didn't keep telling me you hadto go.
You had to go to that women'sconference.
You and Chelsea had to go.
Y'all had to go.
I couldn't let go.
And I'm not one to usually begsomebody to do something
Speaker 03 (30:18):
with
Speaker 02 (30:18):
me.
That's not me, right?
I ask you one time.
I remind you a second time.
I don't usually ask a third ora fourth or an eighth.
And I usually don't.
I'm usually like, well, if theydon't want to go, they don't
want to go, right?
Unknown (30:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 02 (30:32):
But God would not let it go.
Like, it just, you would notget off my mind.
You would not go away.
And I guess that's why we arewhere we are today.
Yeah,
Speaker 00 (30:42):
we needed
Speaker 02 (30:43):
that.
You know, where we are.
But if you happen to followGod, but you know what?
You can't ask what if.
Speaker 01 (30:49):
Oh, for sure.
Speaker 02 (30:50):
Right?
Yeah.
If may only be two letters.
Speaker 01 (30:53):
Well, I know.
Speaker 02 (30:54):
But if...
It's such a word of the enemy.
Speaker 01 (30:59):
No, I'm just saying though, if I had to gave up and
not, and just, that's what I'mtrying to tell you.
Don't, I'm trying to encouragethem not to give up because had
I gave up, I was, I was one dayaway from my breakthrough.
One day away.
One day away.
One day away.
So whatever you're goingthrough tonight, you may be one
day away from your miracle, yourbreakthrough, whatever it is
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that you're believing God for.
Because the Bible said, he's norespecter person.
And if he did it for me, Andwhen I tell you that God
performed a miracle in myhusband, he is a different man,
a total different man.
And I love him.
I didn't love him last week.
I'm just going to be honest.
He was mean.
He was ugly.
But God performed a miracle inmy marriage.
Speaker 02 (31:44):
And He can do it for you, too, whether it's your
marriage, whether it's yourchildren, whether it's your job,
whether it's just getting upout of bed every day.
And I prayed.
When I first came to faith, youknow, my daddy was still in
addiction.
And I would pray for him.
And I would pray for him.
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And then I'd quit praying.
You know, and then somethingwould happen and I would pray
for him.
And I would pray for him.
And then I'd quit praying.
You know, and that went on foryears.
Went on for years.
And when he started drugcourts...
I seen him a few times atWalmart and I hadn't really seen
him a lot between then andthere.
And I would see him at Walmart,you know, and one time he came
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up to me and he goes, are youpraying for me?
I was like, yes, I am.
I've been praying for you formonths now.
He goes, would you please stop?
And, you know, the transmissionhad fell off his truck and he
caused kitchen on fire and justlike all these traumatic things
that have all this stuff hadhappened to him, you know?
And he's like, I was like,well, then I guess you need to
listen.
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You need to listen to whatGod's trying to show you.
You need to listen to whatGod's telling you.
And I continued to pray, and Iput his name in the thing at
church.
And so the church I was goingto, they've got 1,500 members.
So there's 1,500 memberspraying for him to find his way.
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And it didn't happen today, andit didn't happen overnight.
But he was deep in.
The enemy, right?
Like, he wasn't just losing hisway.
He was lost.
But he brought him from that.
Speaker 00 (33:21):
Oh,
Speaker 02 (33:22):
yeah.
Right?
Like, I mean, he's five yearsclean.
You know, he's running his ownNA meetings.
You know, he is a prime exampleof it, you know.
And you and Kevin, y'all are aprime example of what God can
bring you from, you know, as faras the world.
But just because you come fromit doesn't mean you can't go
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back to it.
There's a song and it saysthere's a million ways to hit
rock bottom, but there's onlyone way out.
And that's what we're here todo today.
We're here to encourage you, nomatter where you are in life,
no matter what is going on inlife, that God is there.
He's always standing there.
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He's always standing in thefire with you.
I can think about myself insituations that I should not
have walked out of.
He had to have been standingthere.
His hand had to have been on myshoulder.
There's no possible way nowthat I'm clean that I can think,
like, I know people that didwalk out of those
Speaker 01 (34:25):
situations.
Speaker 02 (34:26):
You know what I mean?
And I'm not just talking aboutjail.
I'm talking about dead, likedie in those situations, you
know.
And he had to have been sittingin there the whole time.
You know, so he's standingthere with you.
He's just waiting on you toask.
Yeah.
Speaker 01 (34:44):
Lord, we love you tonight.
And God, I just pray for everyperson struggling, every person
that feels like they've been ina defeated season, God.
I just pray that you would goright where they're at,
encourage them.
And Lord, I speak youranointing and your fresh fire
over their life.
And Lord, just how you restoredmy marriage and my family.
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I ask if they're going throughthose seasons that You do the
same for them, God.
I pray a turnaround anointingon their life.
Just as you turn Kevin around,I pray you turn around whoever
they're praying for tonight,God.
Lord, I just thank you forShannon.
I thank you for thisopportunity to sow into other
lives, God.
I just pray that you would justcontinue to keep us connected,
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to keep us plugged in, to keepus on your path.
In Jesus' name, amen.
Unknown (35:34):
Amen.
Speaker 02 (35:35):
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it with another sister, to clickfollow on whatever podcast that
you listen to us on.
Please drop us a comment in thepodcast or on the fan mail of
BuzzSport.
We love y'all, and we thank youso, so much for joining us and
for following us and for being apart of this journey with us.
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And we are so excited to seewhat God is going to do with
this podcast.
Speaker 01 (36:05):
Have a good night.
We love y'all.
Dear Heavenly Father God, we love you tonight, Lord,
and we just thank you for thisopportunity to speak.
to other women, Lord, and wejust pray, Lord, that you would
just speak through me andShannon as we be vulnerable
tonight, as we be transparent.
God, I just ask you to haveyour way tonight, Jesus, and
bless every person listening tothis podcast.
In Jesus' name, amen.
Speaker 02 (00:23):
Amen.
Welcome back, family, and thisis Unrelated Sisters Truth and
Grace Conversation, and I'mShannon.
Speaker 00 (00:30):
And I'm Deb.
Speaker 02 (00:31):
And we're so glad that you've decided to join us
today.
This podcast is going to be aMe and Deb talked about it
today, and we feel like we'veboth just been in a season of
lost or a season of trials, aseason of inviting the enemy
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into our homes.
l I said it earlier today.
I feel like God usually comesto me, you know, and says, this
is what you're going to talkabout this week.
And for some reason, I'm notlistening.
I can't hear him.
And I don't know if it's thestress of last week.
I don't know if it's life hasjust gotten in the way over this
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last week or so, but that'swhere we've decided to talk
today.
So this is 100% unscripted.
It's going to be completelytransparent and from the heart.
So, Go ahead and lets getstarted.
Speaker 01 (01:29):
So as I was telling you earlier, this has probably
been one of the hardest seasonsthat I've been through in a long
time.
You think after you get savedand that you're living right and
you're doing all the rightthings, that life's going to be
easy, but sometimes it don't gothat way.
And for me and my family, thishas been...
And I just want to share thistonight to encourage...
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other wives um or moms oranybody that may be standing in
the gap for a family member ormaybe fighting a battle in your
family where you feel like theenemy's coming and causing
division um this past seasonprobably for the past few months
now me and kevin have not beeni would say on the same page
(02:13):
spiritually um and that's okaysometimes you know a lot of
times uh I think he feelsinadequate.
And so he really allowed thevoice of the enemy to tell him
that he wasn't measuring up orhe wasn't cold or that he just
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wasn't a good person.
And so through compromise, Ithink that we allow the enemy to
We opened doors in our home,even through music.
We had had words because ofthe—and he doesn't care for me
sharing this.
I shared it Saturday.
We're super transparent, and Ifeel like that's the only way to
be.
But, you know, I'm big on whatI listen to.
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Since I have gave my life backto God, I'm not—and it wasn't
that I was being judgmental toHim.
I think the Bible says that youcan judge—there's a righteous
way to do it where you're not— Imean, there's, it's truth and
there's not, you know what Imean?
So he was listening anyway.
So he was listening to musicthat doesn't glorify God.
(03:20):
I'll just say that.
And he thought it was okay.
And so repeatedly I would saythings to him, like what you're
about, what you're listening to.
And so to him, he was hearingthat I was trying to judge him.
And, um, So, and that's how theenemy works too, to cause
division in your home.
So he wasn't seeing it as thatI was trying to help him.
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He was just seeing, I wastrying to judge him.
So anyway, it was causing, youknow, the enemy comes in and
causes division little bylittle.
And so finally I got to where Iwasn't saying anything to him,
but it got to the point whereour house had became, and it
wasn't just to the music he waslistening to.
It was things that we couldhave just done better together,
you know?
And so we, we were just, goingthrough the motions really in
(04:04):
our marriage.
And I was to the point a coupleof weeks ago that I was ready
to go.
I was ready to leave.
I had had enough.
We were arguing almost everysingle day.
And I know that if you see myFacebook post or you see me in
person, you think, you know,everything's good and But a lot
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of times when you're fightingthese battles, I didn't feel
like at the moment it wassomething for me to share at the
time that things that I wasgoing through.
So it was something I wasreally in prayer about.
And I was really I was fastingand I was believing God to
change my husband's heart andlet us become one again.
But I was doing all thesethings and I wasn't seeing the
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fruit of none of it.
And I was felt like literallythat my prayers were hitting the
wall.
Like, God, are you even hearingme?
Like, where are you?
Because if you don't changesomething, I'm leaving.
And I had got to the pointwhere I was even figuring out,
like, how I would pay the bills.
In fact, I was like, I couldjust go live with my mom.
(05:09):
And so finally, two or threeweeks ago, I did open up to my
parents how I was feeling.
And they tried to only becausesometimes it is good to go to
your and not just because myparents, I know that they are
have wisdom in those areas.
And I know that they couldtarget their prayers towards us.
(05:29):
And I know that they would dothat.
And so I talked with him aboutkind of what was going on, how
he was acting.
He wasn't being abusive, but hewas being kind.
He was saying things that heshouldn't be saying.
You know what I mean?
And so sometimes words hurtworse than the physical abuse.
So maybe there was someemotional abuse, too, going on.
And I have come to the point inmy life where I was just like,
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you know what?
I've done come past all this.
I've done been through allthis.
And I'm not going through this.
I know my worth today, and I'mgoing to set these boundaries.
And that was big for me.
And so I told God, Last Sunday,Sunday before last, God, if you
don't do something, if youdon't change me or him, or if
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it's me, change me.
I know there's things that Ican change, but you're going to
have to do something.
This is turmoil in my house.
It's chaos, and I don't want tolive this way, and I don't want
to have Oren going throughthis.
And so on Tuesday night, wedidn't even speak all day
Monday.
Tuesday, he had the flu.
Tuesday night, I went to aBible study.
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with a group of women, and hewas on my specific prayer list
to pray for him.
And so as the lady began topray for him, she started
calling him to his identity,because I couldn't even call him
out to his identity anymore.
I couldn't.
To be honest with you, I wasdone praying.
I had reached that point.
I didn't have the strength topray.
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pray for it anymore becausei've been praying and praying
and praying i wasn't seeingnothing happening so i was just
like you know what god and godknew he knew i was at that place
in my life and he knew that ihad asked him for help and i
cried he knew i was desperateand so um as i got into this
prayer meeting and i began topray and speak for kevin to rise
up to be the godly husband andbe the the man of the house and
(07:13):
be the leader that all thethings i had been praying for
she didn't even know i've beenpraying for these things but she
was calling it out and I reallyfelt like I got a breakthrough.
We locked arms that night.
And sometimes I feel like youreally need to lock arms with
some women.
Let me and you do, Shannon,too.
Lock arms and get plugged inwith women that will go to war
with you.
Speaker 02 (07:33):
Oh, yeah.
You definitely need that whenyou're in a season of trials or
trauma.
Discouragement.
Speaker 01 (07:42):
I was so
Speaker 02 (07:43):
discouraged.
Or where you feel like God'snot listening, right?
You need that intercessor thatis going to...
get down with you in thetrenches, pray with you, pray
over you, pray for you, right?
And I heard something the otherday, it's been a few weeks ago,
and it said, they said, I'llcall somebody to pray for me
(08:06):
before I pray for myself.
But when you've prayed andyou've prayed and you've prayed,
that's when you got called.
That's when you've got to reachout.
You've got to reach out to yourmom or to your dad or your
mentor or your pastor or anotherwoman.
Somebody that you know is goingto be able to understand, not
(08:27):
judge.
Somebody that's going to beable to pray.
As we've been doing thispodcast, we've been asking for
our listeners, what do you needprayer for?
Let us pray for you.
We haven't received thatresponse and it makes me feel
like, like, and I guess I'vebeen struggling with this this
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week, right?
I guess my season or where I'mat right now is I don't know
where we're headed.
Right.
And not knowing to me isprobably one of the scariest
things in the world.
But as far as you and Kevin go,and as far as we'll get back to
me in a minute, as far as whatyou've been going through, you
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know, We've prayed over ittogether.
We've discussed it off of thepodcast together.
And the two of you have comethrough so much, right?
Deep down, you don't want togo, right?
But Jesus had to step in.
And it sounds like he steppedin pretty big.
Speaker 00 (09:31):
He did.
Speaker 02 (09:31):
Right?
Yeah.
Tell them the second part.
Tell them about what happened
Speaker 01 (09:36):
on Wednesday.
So that was on Tuesday night.
I went to the prayer meeting.
I went home on Tuesday nightand didn't speak to him again,
even though he was sick.
And I was really bitter at him.
I'm just going to be honest.
I was really bitter.
Because I feel like I'm justwasted all this time.
And I even told him, which Ihad to repent and ask him for
forgiveness.
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I had told him, if I had knownfour years ago that it was going
to be like this, I would havenever waited on you.
And I told him that.
But at the moment, I meantthat.
I'm just going to be real.
I meant that.
Because I was like, it wasn'tsupposed to be like this.
You told me this and this.
And I had seen this.
I had seen you be a differentway.
I'd seen you be the man, theKevin, the mighty man of God.
(10:18):
And then to see you gobackwards, it was just super
frustrating.
And so Wednesday night, he camein and said, He was like, hey,
can we do something?
And I was like, what?
He said I was like to get up inthe morning and 30 minutes
early and start doing devotiontogether again.
I'm like, okay.
So I didn't say nothing elseabout it.
(10:39):
I said, okay, because I didn'twant to push nothing because I
wasn't even trying to get him todo devotion with me.
I was just doing my thing withme and God.
And because I always felt likehe thought I was just pushing
him to do stuff, and I didn'twant it to be like that.
I didn't want him to doanything out of performance or
because of me.
I wanted him to do it becausehe wanted to do it.
Yeah, because if not, it's invain anyway, right?
(11:01):
Yeah, and so the next morning,his alarm goes off at 4 o'clock,
and I'm like, Lord, he's forreal about this.
So I get up with him, and weget our coffee, and he pulls out
his Bible, and he's like, allright, Lord, what do you want me
to read to my wife today?
So he gets over in Corinthiansand starts reading to me about
love.
And we're really laughing aboutthings because I'm like, see,
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they weren't God speaking toyou.
And then he would say it back.
So he was reading aloud to methe whole time.
And then so when he got done, Isaid, well, I'll pray for us
for the day.
And we hadn't did that in along time either together.
And so I said the prayer andprayed just for us for the day.
And when I ended the prayer, hepicked up.
Where I left off and he said,God, help me with the things
(11:45):
that I struggle with.
Help me to be a better husband.
Help me to be the man thatyou've called me to be.
Help me to be a better dad.
And he said a really goodprayer.
And so when he gets donepraying, I'm bawling, crying
because I'm like, this is whatI've been.
It was a breakthrough momentfor us.
And so he had an encounter withGod.
And I know it was during ourprayer meeting or during that
(12:07):
night or during the dayWednesday.
I know God intervened because.
Kevin's a different persontoday.
Kevin is the man I knew before.
You know what I mean?
That when he came back to Godand surrendered his life back to
God and he was just loving andwhich I know every day is not
going to be.
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I know you're going to haveyou're going to go through
things and you're going to getupset and things like that.
But when I tell you it was justcomplete turmoil in our house
and now the atmosphere hascompletely changed like crazy.
My house is just so peacefulnow.
And we literally, he's beensubmerging in Billy Graham.
And when I had sent him a songfrom Brandon Lake on YouTube, he
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called me and he's like, I'mnot going to listen to YouTube.
For him, it was just to cut itoff, the music.
And I didn't tell him to.
I didn't ask him to.
So I know how to be a God bang.
You know what I mean?
And so he was like, I'm justgoing to listen to some
preaching because he reallylikes to listen to preaching.
So now he's got me more.
Like I've been listening tothings and it's really been
helping the both of us.
And so now we're being able toshare that with each other, what
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we're listening to throughoutthe day, what we're learning,
things that I've been prayingfor for the last over a year.
And I said all that to say thatjust when we think it's the end
and just when we think thatit's over or that we've done all
that we can do and we sit stilland just let God do it, It's
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amazing how things change, and Ican't say it enough, and you
just had to have been there withus every day, what it's been
like these past few months, andto have been there this past
week, how it's been a total,total change in my house.
Speaker 02 (13:53):
Well, you know, I heard this the other day on the
radio, and they said, you know,David's head was put in the
mouth of a lion.
We don't, and he walked out thenext day, right?
And we don't see that kind ofgrace.
But do we?
I mean, it sounds like to me,you've seen it this week.
Yeah, for sure.
(14:14):
It sounds like to me that, youknow, what you've been praying
for and what you've been needingfrom God and what your
relationship has been needing.
You walked out of the firetoday.
You know, you walked out, youwalked out, you know, you and
Kevin walked out together handin hand.
And, you know, we may not.
face a giant and we may not youknow we may not find a burning
(14:37):
bush but to me that's theultimate grace right what he
what he shared with y'all thisweek is the ultimate grace and i
just want to touch on wherekevin came from to where he is
today there's going to bemoments where he's not going to
feel good enough right there'sgoing to be times that Because
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he's a real baby in his faith.
He wasn't raised in faith.
He wasn't raised with Godaround him.
He wasn't raised in thosetimes.
He's met God through you andthrough your family.
And so he's truly an infant inhis faith.
And he's grown up fast with it,right?
(15:25):
So he's going to have thosemoments.
And you being able to pray forhim for over the last year, you
know, and get to a point whereyou're just done.
But being able to stop for amoment and say, okay, God, look,
I need something.
You know, that's giving grace.
(15:47):
That's showing grace, you know,to your partner and to your
lover.
And it's...
Speaker 01 (15:53):
It's almost like it's– and I texted him this the
other day.
I said it's like God has–because I had told him two weeks
ago, I said, listen, I loveyou, but I'm not in love with
you no more.
And I meant that.
And that's why we can't go offof our feelings because even
though I didn't– I knew I– Ididn't feel like I loved him,
but I knew I did.
You know what I mean?
So– Just because you don't feellike it on those days doesn't
(16:15):
mean you can just up and leave.
You know what I mean?
And so I even told him theother day, I said, I really feel
like that God has ignited a newlove back in me for you.
He took the blinders off myeyes to let me see him the way
he sees him.
And I think he did that forKevin, too.
One of the things Ashley prayedover him was that God would—she
(16:36):
said, I see an acceleration inhim.
And I'm seeing that like God isjust, this is things he's
speaking in the wisdom.
Just in this past week, I'mlike, where did you even hear
that?
Where did you learn that from?
You know what I mean?
And it's always been, it's beenin there.
You just have been hiding it.
You know what I'm saying?
But I'm just so grateful todaythat God loves us right in the
(16:57):
middle of our mess.
And that even these seasonsthat are ugly, that nobody knows
about.
That you don't want nobody toknow about because you want it
to, you know, because I know theLord has called us into so many
things.
We're doing this podcast.
I'm doing this Bible study withthese young women.
And you know when you're doingthings for the Lord and walking
(17:18):
in your calling and yourfulfillment, I know the enemy is
going to, the main thing he'sgoing to try to do is fight your
family.
Oh,
Speaker 02 (17:25):
yeah.
Because that's the one place hecan get
Speaker 01 (17:27):
us.
Yeah.
Speaker 02 (17:27):
That's the one place he
Speaker 01 (17:29):
knows.
And distract you.
I was so distracted.
Speaker 02 (17:32):
Yes.
From where we're supposed
Speaker 01 (17:33):
to be.
Yeah.
Speaker 02 (17:35):
And he knows that, right?
As mothers, he knows thatattacking our family is going
to...
take us off course or you knowpoint us make us look at
something differently than wherewe should be looking at it you
know and just because we do thispodcast or just because we do
the women's group with thepeople and just because you know
(17:58):
god is calling us to do allthese things doesn't mean we're
not human
Speaker 01 (18:02):
oh for sure
Speaker 02 (18:02):
right it doesn't mean that we don't make mistakes
or we don't see things wrongright sometimes i have to hit my
knees and pray
Speaker 03 (18:11):
right
Speaker 02 (18:12):
sometimes i have to you know i have to do i have to
ask questions right um we werelaughing downstairs before we
come up here to do the podcastand uh we were talking about uh
cleaning my house before youcome over every week and
Speaker 01 (18:29):
i don't know why she does that because i don't care
Speaker 02 (18:31):
Right.
You know, but I can't.
I can't let company in my housewithout my house being clean.
There can't be dirty dishes inthe sink.
The tables have to, you know,there can't be clutter sitting
around everywhere.
There just can't be.
I just can't do it.
Right.
Just because that's the way welive from day to day.
When company is coming over, wecan't.
I can't be that way.
I have to.
(18:51):
And my son laughs at me.
But the minute I said today'sWednesday and Debra's coming
over, he's like, I got to goclean my bathroom.
And he jumps up and runsupstairs.
Unknown (19:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 02 (19:00):
you know to clean his you know he's like my
bathroom's a mess and i've madehim that way right i've made him
that way but it's okay you knowi don't mop the floors and wash
the windows like i do forchristmas and thanksgiving when
people are coming over or thefourth of july like next week
i'm on vacation i will I willwash my porch and get all the
(19:24):
outside ready for company tocome.
When it's just everyday dirt,the dirt's going to still be
there when they come, but I'mstill going to do it because
that's just how it is.
I appreciate the things thatGod has given me.
I appreciate this house.
I appreciate the materialthings that God has given us
(19:45):
because I've never had it.
Speaker 03 (19:46):
Right.
Speaker 02 (19:47):
I've never had it.
But like my husband, you know,today I've been frustrated with
him lately and not reallyfrustrated.
Not like we don't we're notfighting and arguing, but
there's times that I just get.
So I work 80 hours a week.
I drive an hour and 20 minutesto work every day, an hour and
(20:08):
20 minutes home every day.
So I'm on the road for threehours a day, five days a week.
You know, the two days I'm off,I'm cleaning the house, I'm
washing clothes, I'm cleaningthe kitchen, I'm doing all the
wifely things, and sometimes Iget burnt out.
Speaker 03 (20:25):
I get
Speaker 02 (20:25):
tired.
I get frustrated, right?
I mean, I come home last night,and I didn't get home until
like 9.30 last night.
I had to work late, and Ididn't get home until like 9.30
last night.
And I told him, I was like, youneed to stop and we can do some
dinner, because it's going tobe like 9.30, 10 o'clock before
I get home.
So he had stopped.
Well, He stopped at Checkerswhile his bag was sitting in the
(20:46):
seat on the couch.
And we sit in the love seattogether.
That's our seat.
And so I sat down on the othercouch.
And he's like, you can't pickit up and throw it away.
I'm like, no, it's your trash.
It didn't hurt me to pick it upand throw it away.
Right.
But that's been frustrating for
Speaker 03 (21:03):
me.
Speaker 02 (21:04):
But not talking about my husband.
This last week...
Usually on Sunday afternoon.
I usually get up on Sundays andI come upstairs here to where
the podcast is and I turn on myworship music and, you know, and
I sit down at the computer andme and God have a conversation
and we talk about the upcomingweek and we talk about the
(21:26):
podcast and we talk about what'shappened over the week and just
all of that.
And then Monday morning, goingto work.
God bless.
slaps me in the face with whatwe're supposed to talk about
this week.
I didn't do that this Sunday.
I didn't come up here.
I didn't spend time with him uphere in this room.
And I've been coming up hereand praying every Sunday and
(21:48):
just spending time with him uphere.
And I didn't do that thisSunday.
And Monday, he didn't slap mein the face.
Right.
And then I know you weregetting worried because you text
me yesterday and you were
Speaker 01 (22:02):
like, I didn't hear her.
I'm not.
That's not like Shannon.
Right.
And for me, it's normal.
You might not hear me to thatday, but Shannon's usually
prepared.
Speaker 02 (22:11):
Yeah.
I'm usually right on it.
Right.
I already know what we'redoing.
I already, you know, I'velistened and it's like, I told
you, it's like, I don't hear himthis week.
Like I don't hear him.
And I, Or I don't feel him.
I don't feel his presence.
I don't feel, like I just feeldistracted.
But I don't know what went.
Like I don't know, I don't knowif, because last week was a big
(22:36):
deal for my company and a bigdeal for my store.
You know, we had in-storeinventory and that's three days
of very long hours, very, youknow, being very focused on
what's going on in the building.
I don't know if that's gotme...
Something has me distracted.
And I don't know what it is.
And I don't know...
And I'm not doubting that thepodcast is not God-fed, God-led.
(23:01):
Not 100%.
Because I know that's what itis.
I know this is what God wantsus to do.
And I know, you know, I'vehad...
umpteen people this week tellme, oh, your podcast is so good.
Like every episode is so great,you know?
And, and, but I think it'sbecause I want people to
interact with us, right?
Like I want the listeners tosend us prayer requests.
(23:24):
I want the listeners to commenton things.
And I never needed validationfor anything that I do.
Cause when I do something, Iput my whole heart into it and I
know I'm doing the best that Ican do.
But for some reason, like thisweek, like I feel like I need
validation for what we're doing.
Speaker 03 (23:46):
Yeah.
Speaker 02 (23:47):
You know, when we first started this, you know, I
brought you over and we had thatconversation that when stuff
gets hard or when I get boredwith it, like I'm ready.
I'm just done.
Right.
We talked about all theequipment I have for making
T-shirts.
And, you know, if I want to doone or two, it's easy.
But if I got to do more thantwo, it's complicated.
And I don't want to do that.
I'd rather pay somebody to doit.
(24:08):
You know, and I don't know if.
if that's where I'm at in mymind, but it's all in my mind.
Cause it's definitely not in my
Speaker 03 (24:15):
heart,
Speaker 02 (24:16):
you know?
And I don't know, I'm feeling,I don't know.
It's not, I'm not overwhelmed.
It's not like I have, I don't,I'm not like you, you know, I
don't have baseball games andcheerleading practice and I
don't have, you know, I don'thave team birthday parties to go
to.
I don't, you know, all I haveis work and this podcast and
then, you know, whatever,whatever, You know, me and my
(24:38):
husband are together orwhatever.
It's not like I'm overwhelmedwith things going on in my life.
But this week, I've just feltblah.
Yeah.
Blah.
And when I try to spend timewith God, it's like my mind goes
somewhere else.
Like, because usually on mydrive to work or drive home,
(24:59):
That's when I worship, right?
And I've been playing my music.
Like, that's not changed.
Like, I've been listening tothe radio, you know, and usually
the DJs say something thatsparks something in my mind or
sparks something in my heart,you know, that makes me want to
research it.
Because, you know, when youlisten to the DJs for three
hours a week or three hours aday, seven days a week, you
(25:19):
know, they have to say somethingprofound, right?
You know, and I talk about alot of things that I hear on the
radio, but like this week, it'slike I didn't hear anything
they said.
Unknown (25:29):
Mm-hmm.
Which, how?
Speaker 02 (25:32):
Like, I still drove, right?
I was still in the car.
The radio was still on.
But I just felt distracted thisweek.
And I guess that's why thepodcast has went this direction
this week.
Speaker 01 (25:46):
God knew.
Speaker 02 (25:47):
And maybe that's what we need.
Maybe that's what I needed.
Speaker 01 (25:51):
It didn't have to be outlined or just come in and...
Maybe
Speaker 02 (25:57):
talking it out is what I needed to do.
Oh,
Speaker 01 (26:00):
yeah, for sure.
Speaker 02 (26:01):
You know, about, I don't know, about needing, you
know, somebody to pat me on theback.
I don't know.
Because that's weird for me.
Like, you know, like Kim wastalking about earlier today,
like, I do all kinds of thingsfor the community, right, and
where my store is.
And I do, I don't do it out ofcuriosity.
(26:23):
because 90% of the time, nobodyknows I do it.
I don't do it for recognition.
I do it because I have themeans to do it.
My company gives me theopportunity to feed back into
the community that we're in, andI enjoy it.
So 90% of the time, thecommunity doesn't know that
we're the ones funding thethings that are going on or that
(26:45):
we're the ones that aredonating the stuff that they're
using and all that stuff.
But it brings me joy to be apart of it and to be in the
shadows But like, I don't know,like this week, I just, I feel
like I need, I feel, you know,and it's emotion.
It's an emotion, right?
You can't go off your emotions.
I mean, I guess this is whatthis whole podcast has been
(27:06):
about, right?
You can't go off your emotionsbecause it's an emotional thing,
right?
It's not because I don't needfoundation.
I get validation from the oneI'm supposed to get it from.
Right.
You know, he makes me positiveand he gives me joy every day.
And like you said, nothing orno one is ever going to take
(27:28):
that joy away from me again.
Right.
I'm not ever going to putmyself in the situations to
where my joy is in question.
I refuse.
I refuse.
I'm just not ever going to bethere again.
Right.
I think when we go throughseasons, um,
Speaker 01 (28:09):
We forget sometimes.
I don't know.
I think sometimes things arejust going good.
And then when we do hit thosebumpy roads, we're like, wait,
what is this?
You know, we can just go to theLord and just, Lord, what is it
that's distracting me?
What is it that's hindering mefrom hearing your voice, being
(28:30):
in your presence?
Whatever it is, remove it.
Or come on these podcasts andbe transparent and just talk it
out.
And you're like, won't you talkit out sometimes?
Sometimes.
You're like, well, Lord.
That's all you really need todo.
Yeah, all I really need to dois just vent and talk to
somebody about it.
But tonight, I really just wantto encourage the women, the
(28:51):
men, whoever's listening, thatwhen you're going through hard
times and you're going throughthese seasons and you feel like
your prayers are bouncing offthe walls or you feel like
you're not hearing God's voiceor the enemy's causing division
in your family, just hold on.
Just hold on.
I was thinking if I had left onthat Monday night or Sunday
(29:12):
night, what would it look like?
Speaker 02 (29:17):
Where would you be?
Speaker 01 (29:18):
Yeah, if I hadn't went on to the Bible study.
Because I wasn't even going togo.
She posted it on Facebook andmy daughter wanted to go.
And so anytime that she istrying to get involved, I try to
go with her to support her.
Yeah.
Because I had been praying inthat area as well.
And so I was like, yeah, I'llgo.
And then my mom said she wouldgo.
(29:38):
So it really was all of us andthen two or three of them.
And not only did I get abreakthrough, but my daughter
did as well.
She was able to walk throughsome unforgiveness that she had
held.
And so I really think when wethink we're not hearing from
God, we really are.
Because the Lord was telling meto go that night and be
(29:59):
obedient.
And I'm glad that I did.
And I'm glad that I didn't giveup.
Speaker 02 (30:04):
Well, I mean, we wouldn't be here today if God
didn't keep telling me you hadto go.
You had to go to that women'sconference.
You and Chelsea had to go.
Y'all had to go.
I couldn't let go.
And I'm not one to usually begsomebody to do something
Speaker 03 (30:18):
with
Speaker 02 (30:18):
me.
That's not me, right?
I ask you one time.
I remind you a second time.
I don't usually ask a third ora fourth or an eighth.
And I usually don't.
I'm usually like, well, if theydon't want to go, they don't
want to go, right?
Unknown (30:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 02 (30:32):
But God would not let it go.
Like, it just, you would notget off my mind.
You would not go away.
And I guess that's why we arewhere we are today.
Yeah,
Speaker 00 (30:42):
we needed
Speaker 02 (30:43):
that.
You know, where we are.
But if you happen to followGod, but you know what?
You can't ask what if.
Speaker 01 (30:49):
Oh, for sure.
Speaker 02 (30:50):
Right?
Yeah.
If may only be two letters.
Speaker 01 (30:53):
Well, I know.
Speaker 02 (30:54):
But if...
It's such a word of the enemy.
Speaker 01 (30:59):
No, I'm just saying though, if I had to gave up and
not, and just, that's what I'mtrying to tell you.
Don't, I'm trying to encouragethem not to give up because had
I gave up, I was, I was one dayaway from my breakthrough.
One day away.
One day away.
One day away.
So whatever you're goingthrough tonight, you may be one
day away from your miracle, yourbreakthrough, whatever it is
(31:20):
that you're believing God for.
Because the Bible said, he's norespecter person.
And if he did it for me, Andwhen I tell you that God
performed a miracle in myhusband, he is a different man,
a total different man.
And I love him.
I didn't love him last week.
I'm just going to be honest.
He was mean.
He was ugly.
But God performed a miracle inmy marriage.
Speaker 02 (31:44):
And He can do it for you, too, whether it's your
marriage, whether it's yourchildren, whether it's your job,
whether it's just getting upout of bed every day.
And I prayed.
When I first came to faith, youknow, my daddy was still in
addiction.
And I would pray for him.
And I would pray for him.
(32:05):
And then I'd quit praying.
You know, and then somethingwould happen and I would pray
for him.
And I would pray for him.
And then I'd quit praying.
You know, and that went on foryears.
Went on for years.
And when he started drugcourts...
I seen him a few times atWalmart and I hadn't really seen
him a lot between then andthere.
And I would see him at Walmart,you know, and one time he came
(32:26):
up to me and he goes, are youpraying for me?
I was like, yes, I am.
I've been praying for you formonths now.
He goes, would you please stop?
And, you know, the transmissionhad fell off his truck and he
caused kitchen on fire and justlike all these traumatic things
that have all this stuff hadhappened to him, you know?
And he's like, I was like,well, then I guess you need to
listen.
(32:47):
You need to listen to whatGod's trying to show you.
You need to listen to whatGod's telling you.
And I continued to pray, and Iput his name in the thing at
church.
And so the church I was goingto, they've got 1,500 members.
So there's 1,500 memberspraying for him to find his way.
(33:07):
And it didn't happen today, andit didn't happen overnight.
But he was deep in.
The enemy, right?
Like, he wasn't just losing hisway.
He was lost.
But he brought him from that.
Speaker 00 (33:21):
Oh,
Speaker 02 (33:22):
yeah.
Right?
Like, I mean, he's five yearsclean.
You know, he's running his ownNA meetings.
You know, he is a prime exampleof it, you know.
And you and Kevin, y'all are aprime example of what God can
bring you from, you know, as faras the world.
But just because you come fromit doesn't mean you can't go
(33:44):
back to it.
There's a song and it saysthere's a million ways to hit
rock bottom, but there's onlyone way out.
And that's what we're here todo today.
We're here to encourage you, nomatter where you are in life,
no matter what is going on inlife, that God is there.
He's always standing there.
(34:04):
He's always standing in thefire with you.
I can think about myself insituations that I should not
have walked out of.
He had to have been standingthere.
His hand had to have been on myshoulder.
There's no possible way nowthat I'm clean that I can think,
like, I know people that didwalk out of those
Speaker 01 (34:25):
situations.
Speaker 02 (34:26):
You know what I mean?
And I'm not just talking aboutjail.
I'm talking about dead, likedie in those situations, you
know.
And he had to have been sittingin there the whole time.
You know, so he's standingthere with you.
He's just waiting on you toask.
Yeah.
Speaker 01 (34:44):
Lord, we love you tonight.
And God, I just pray for everyperson struggling, every person
that feels like they've been ina defeated season, God.
I just pray that you would goright where they're at,
encourage them.
And Lord, I speak youranointing and your fresh fire
over their life.
And Lord, just how you restoredmy marriage and my family.
(35:06):
I ask if they're going throughthose seasons that You do the
same for them, God.
I pray a turnaround anointingon their life.
Just as you turn Kevin around,I pray you turn around whoever
they're praying for tonight,God.
Lord, I just thank you forShannon.
I thank you for thisopportunity to sow into other
lives, God.
I just pray that you would justcontinue to keep us connected,
(35:28):
to keep us plugged in, to keepus on your path.
In Jesus' name, amen.
Unknown (35:34):
Amen.
Speaker 02 (35:35):
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it with another sister, to clickfollow on whatever podcast that
you listen to us on.
Please drop us a comment in thepodcast or on the fan mail of
BuzzSport.
We love y'all, and we thank youso, so much for joining us and
for following us and for being apart of this journey with us.
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And we are so excited to seewhat God is going to do with
this podcast.
Speaker 01 (36:05):
Have a good night.
We love y'all.
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