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I'm talking about.
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International court where we deal with international criminals.
Anyway I'm going to one of them countries.
I think it's about a hundred and a half country.
Sign up to that.
He shall be arrested.
For one being a representing a man for Uptown TV.
You understand?
...for alleged war crimes and crimes against humanity.
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Tom Perry is leading our CBC news team on the ground in Israel.
And he is in Jerusalem with these breaking details.
Tom let's begin first of all with the warrants for Benjamin Netanyahu and for Yoav Galant.
What did the documents say about why the ICC has taken this step today?
Well I've been taking some notes.
I was on the ICC website just sort of reading through these these statements as they've been coming out.
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And I can tell you that so for Benjamin Netanyahu and for Yoav Galant the former defense minister.
The allegations is that they committed crimes against humanity and war crimes dating back to October 8 2023.
So just a day after Hamas launched its October 7th attack into Israel.
Those alleged crimes include using starvation as a method of warfare, murder, persecution and other inhumane acts.
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So what does this mean?
Well it means that these could these two men could face arrest potentially if they traveled outside of Israel to a country that recognizes the ICC's jurisdiction.
You know the ICC has issued an arrest warrant for Russian President Vladimir Putin over the Russia's conduct in Ukraine.
You know he has traveled outside of Russia.
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He's not been arrested but that's kind of the I guess the category into which these two men are being placed.
We have seen some response now from the Israeli government.
Israel's president Isaac Herzog says this is an absurd decision.
And he posted on Twitter that this is a dark day for justice and a dark day for humanity.
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Tom I also want to ask the other part of this arrest warrant is for a former one of the former leaders of Hamas.
And there's been a little bit of reaction that's literally just been coming in as you've been reporting with us.
But a senior official talking to Reuters and saying that the ICC arrest warrants represent an important step toward justice.
Interestingly that it will benefit the Palestinian cause.
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So that is a little bit of Hamas reaction.
Although it's interesting because there is some confusion over whether this named former Hamas leader is still alive.
So what can you tell us about the other side of this arrest warrant?
That's right. So this arrest warrant from the ICC was for Mohammed Diab Ibrahim al-Masri.
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He is or was the highest commander of the military wing of Hamas.
He's alleged to have committed crimes against humanity including murder, extermination, torture, rape and other forms of sexual violence.
Now as you mentioned Israel claims that it killed this man al-Masri but that's never been confirmed by Hamas.
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Now the court says that it's not in a position to determine whether al-Masri is alive or dead.
And so that's why it went ahead and issued this warrant for his arrest.
When you walk in, time stops and you cry.
Court of International Court where we deal with international criminals.
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They know where I'm going. I'm going to one of them countries.
I think it's about a hundred dollar country. Sign up to that.
He shall be arrested. He shall be arrested.
So he's going to bail out now. I say it's anti-Semitism and all these things.
We want to hear the South African government first want them to draw them up and declare say this guy has committed crime against humanity.
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And they must know because they declare Netanyahu government as an apartheid government.
We call them experienced apartheid and they know and see what apartheid is first and second and third.
So now Netanyahu is in problems.
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America is in problems.
Joe Biden is the one who helped them and perpetuate the madness against the Palestinian people.
Yes, Joe Biden sneakily I tell them to stop and come to the table and I said, send them bombs.
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We bomb up the picnic them from last year. From last year, they must do it. Well, they say they the fall come home to Russia now.
So we'll see what's going to happen after that. We'll see what's going to happen because it's a major thing with major thing all over the world.
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So we must surely strike a card. Every country right now I carry that Netanyahu is no charge.
With genocide, criminalities.
Lawyers are being reminded that eligible persons are entitled to time off to vote in tomorrow's four by elections. The by elections are being held for the constituencies of Trilloni Southern and St.
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Andrew Northwestern, as well as the divisions of Annan Town in Clowden, Northern and March Bay in St.
Thomas Eastern. In a statement today, the electoral office of Jamaica said workers are entitled to three hours in addition to the normal meal hour.
This does not apply to employees whose work on polling day commences at or after 10 a.m.
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or concludes before or at 2 p.m. electors are being reminded to take their voter ID card to the polling station.
They may vote without their voter ID card, but the process will be faster if they have it.
The People's National Party PNP says the fatal stabbing of 11 year old Denham town high pupil Oh Mari Collie, allegedly by a female student, highlights the pressing need to address the root causes of violence among youth.
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Mari was stabbed to death during an altercation with a female pupil of Holy Trinity High School in downtown Kingston on Tuesday.
The 14 year old girl was placed in custody at the South Camp Juvenile Remand Center following the incident. In a statement today, the PNP said it's deeply saddened by Omar's death.
It's calling on the country to do more to address violence in and around schools.
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The body of an unidentified man was found along the Palisades Main Road in Kingston to on Tuesday.
The deceased is of dark complexion, slim built, 180 centimeters or five feet, 11 inches long and was clad in a multi-colored shirt only.
Reports from the Aliston Road Police are that at about 6 15 p.m. passersby stumbled upon the body and alerted them.
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Upon their arrival, the body was seen lying face down on the roadway.
The scene was processed and the body was removed to the morgue.
In news overseas, Mari's military leader has sacked the prime minister Shoguel Kokala Maiga and his government.
It follows rare criticism by Maiga of the junta's lack of clarity about a once promised return to democracy.
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A decree read on state television by junta leader Colonel Asami Goita said the duties of the prime minister and the members of the government were terminated.
Mali has suffered years of jihadist and separatist violence resulting in military coups in 2020 and 2021.
The junta had promised to hold elections and hand back power to civilians by March 2024, but subsequently postponed the vote.
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Relations between the military president and his civilian prime minister have been worsening for some time.
On Saturday, Maiga, while speaking to his supporters, criticized the lack of transparency in the running of the transition.
Finally, a British lawyer is the fifth tourist to have died in a suspected mass poisoning in low South East Asia.
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The UK's Foreign Affairs Foreign Office confirmed the 28-year-old's death on Thursday.
It comes after the family of a 19-year-old Australian national confirmed her death earlier on the same day.
Hours earlier, the US State Department told the media that an American man died in a tourist town.
Two Danish women aged 19 and 20 also died last week in Lowe's.
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The deaths remain under police investigation, but news reports and testimonies online from other tourists suggest they may have consumed drinks laced with methanol,
a deadly substance often found in bootleg alcohol.
Those were the local and international head...
Verona. Clark, good afternoon.
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Good afternoon, Mota, and to all your listeners as well.
I don't know if you've talked about it four times already, but you always have something for the customers down there. That's wonderful.
Yes, it is. And this one is no exception.
Well, I see you have a Black Friday thing going on. Tell me what is special about the Black Friday sales. I call it that, sales.
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Yes, it is. This weekend is our biggest Black Friday sale ever.
And that is because from the beginning of the month, we have been giving our customers some great deals.
But come tomorrow, it will be the main Black Friday sale, which starts tomorrow, November 22nd, and goes right up to Sunday.
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Right up to Sunday?
Yes.
OK, so this is the same Black Friday theme? It's the same theme, Black Friday, even when Sunday comes?
Even when Sunday comes. It's called Drop a Bag Black Friday.
All right. So tell me the offer you have and what you have on sale. Everything in the shop on sale?
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Everything in the shop is on sale. And customers will save big this weekend.
In appliance, we have stoves and washers starting at $19.999. And fridges. And fridges, persons can save up to $80,000.
We have televisions starting at $19.999.
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What size TV that is? $19.999.
That's a 32-inch TV.
OK. That's a good price. Good price, that.
It is. It is. And we have so much more. They can get a 50-inch Samsung at only $69,999 as well.
So it's a lot of excitement happening this weekend.
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All right. So let me ask you now. If you're in Kingston and you want to take part in the Manlyville sale,
can you say you want something in a Manlyville, but you can't come to Manlyville and you just pay a fee to the courts?
Sorry. Yeah, in Kingston or Westmoreland, you can pay a fee from there?
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Well, definitely. We have 29 stores, right? So whichever one if you want to.
And you can also shop online at courts.com. So wherever you are.
It's not specific to the Manlyville one then? Is every one of them?
No, no, no. It's all 29 stores.
OK, OK, OK. I thought it was just Manlyville. Manlyville one. And the same price, same Sunday.
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Black Sunday go right down. It's the same thing.
Sure. Black Friday is true. It's true.
Why are you laughing? Why are you laughing? Why? Should we say Black Sunday?
Yeah, well, if you have Black Friday, Black Saturday, Black Sunday, Black Sunday, it's gone back to White Monday.
All right. All right. So let me ask you now.
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When you come to the store, right? You don't have all of the money.
Even though it's a sale, can you have a monthly payment plan?
Still, I have to buy cash. Absolutely.
We have payment plan from six to 48 months and you don't have to pay us until February.
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We have a different payment. So persons, we know persons will actually need some assistance.
So they can shop on six to 48 months and they don't have to pay any money on 24 to 48 months until February.
Are you getting a sale on Black Friday, sale price?
If you come on Black Friday. Yes.
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Why you're generous, man. You're generous, man.
Can I come buy some tea? I'll sell them back.
The price. All right. So tell me what time you're home, what time you're closed.
Okay. So on Friday, we start at nine and we go up until eight at all stores.
On Sunday, we go from eleven to four in all stores as well.
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Okay. Sunday too? Yes. We are open on Sunday.
Till when? From eleven till four on Sunday.
Okay. So all the people who come and go to church, they have to go to church early.
Because you're going to wake up at four o'clock.
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We want them to come early as well because we have some early birthdays as well.
Tell me the early birthdays.
So for example, you can get a 17 kg washer.
A Marbe 17 kg washer for only 49,999.
And an 11 cubic freezer for 49,999.
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So these are just some of the early bird specials that we'll be having.
Okay. And you have that ride show till the Black Sunday?
No, man. The early bird is right. Yes. From nine a.m. to eleven Friday to Sunday.
And you have gifts with the things because sometimes you go in a course and get a gift.
Like you buy the freezer, you get a 90 inch TV. How does that go?
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That's at this time. This time we are focusing on giving some discounts
and allowing our customers to have some different payments until February.
So you still have to give away when you buy certain things though?
I mean apart from the sale thing, Black Friday thing.
Yes, man. We have a promotion that we call Sleigh Them.
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Where customers who shop over 65,000 enter to win whether their home makeover free.
So we are still inviting persons to come in.
Even after this Black Friday, we have so many more offers to give.
All right. When I ask, you see, like sometimes when you go to a course and you buy a fridge,
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they come and they give you a bulb for a gift.
So we are saying if you still do that, if you still get the gift,
when you buy a bulb, sorry, when you buy a fridge for 100,000,
they bring two 60 watt bulbs.
I said that I give. If that still go on, you still get the gift with the big thing then.
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Yes, we still offer gift promotions.
This Black Friday we are focusing on the sale.
All right. All right. Give thanks.
Well, I hope the people hear and come fast and quick.
You know. All right. Give thanks. Give thanks.
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Thank you.
Yeah, man. That's why it's very 1 o'clock from the branch manager for courts,
Mandeville, I hear them say, gift like gift. Yes, gift like gift.
Black Friday, go right up to Sunday.
So you can't say you never hear and you know, it should open early and close at 4 o'clock.
So you got to be there.
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Okay. This is still the same thing.
Yes, this is the same thing.
All right. What we're going to do, Muta?
All right. You're there or not? You're there or not?
I'm going to be there last year or so.
I think things are going to get better.
So you say education.
Especially like when we have got an election right here.
All right. So we had the prime minister talk about the crime rate gone down.
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But it's still over a thousand.
You know, so we're going to feel good now and we're celebrating on the street
because the crime rate gone down to little over a thousand.
The year is not done yet still, but I don't know who he's going to praise himself
or the police force or what he's going to deal with that,
but I don't see that as nothing to praise about, you know,
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because every time they come, at least him come on the radio,
and he's going to say the gang war is a problem.
The criminal activity with the gang is the main cause of the up surge of murder in Jamaica.
And like, I'm going to start to count how much time he said it.
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And when I say the thing has gone down to no level where we can feel, say,
that we're going to open the door and we window them and all them, we are taking the cold breeze at night time
instead of afraid, say, man are coming to your house, come shoot you.
But the man is not even waiting there in your house again, you know,
they must see up on the road, they are playing domino on the side of the road, and they shoot you.
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But what is, I don't know what is being done, what happened to them camera, body camera,
what they're supposed to have. Didn't I hear that the police force, I think a year or two ago,
they were not here, they have a big thing up at the arena where they must show off the new technology
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and the new this and that, what they get, that never involve the body camera them,
because the body camera is a very important part of the whole thing, you know.
Yeah, the people that are involved in shooting that thing can't lie when they have body camera.
And they say, I'm going to lock up the camera, which is something, indictment against the police,
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if I lock up the camera and shoot a man and then turn on the camera,
because we hear that the policeman there will shoot the youth there, whether they are criminal or not,
but it's like a conspiracy, you know, plant gun on them and all them, you hear that,
nobody, even though it's police, arrest the police, because they say it reach now,
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police arrest police now. When I hear you, I don't like that in Jamaica, police arrest youth,
police arrest police, police arrest criminal or people who intend to commit a crime.
But we hear the Prime Minister talk about the dropping of the murder rate to 1,000 and a year not done yet.
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I don't feel nobody feel safe for true, you say that to Mr. B.
I don't feel nobody feel safer because that's not acceptable place for the crime, the murder rate there.
For you really, really say yes, things are going on for Jamaica.
That is high, that is high, high, high. You understand, very high that.
So we hope, say, by the time it reach, well, if it reach November, if it reach December,
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the crime rate, nobody not kill nobody with gun till November, till January.
Maybe you can't say yeah, there's something, but the crime rate gone out of proportion,
very much gone out of proportion, still, still.
No, Jamaica and Israel are good friends.
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Yeah, man, the Prime Minister go down there and seal up certain things with them.
I don't know what would he say now about that criminal activity that this man unleashed for the people of Gaza,
the Palestinian people, the deliberate attempt to wipe out a nation and destroy a whole country.
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You know, if it can't build back, they wipe out a whole country, thousands of children die.
And them say that's just war, them a fight.
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That's just war.
We want to play a report, another report with the same thing that I say, for those of you who never hear the report.
We have a play this report about, we have to talk about South Africa, South Africa and into bringing this brother to justice,
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bringing him to the court, the world court, the crimes against humanity.
And as we said before, South Africa went through that with the Palestinians,
and them are go through, I guess that is why them is the first ones to bring this case against Netanyahu,
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the apartheid regime that hold one race superior and the other inferior.
That's the serious thing. We want to play it.
A story now developing in the last few minutes.
The International Criminal Court at The Hague has issued arrest warrants for the Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu
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and his former defence minister Yoav Gallant.
Among the things that the ICC is saying it is issuing these warrants for is,
it's alleged that Netanyahu, Gallant used starvation as a tool of war.
Just reading some commentary coming through from the ICC.
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The ICC saying it has reasonable grounds to believe they oversaw attacks on the civilian population.
Well, let's go straight now to The Hague and join our correspondent Anna Hologan and also Yolande Nel who's in Jerusalem.
Anna, to you first of all, tell us a little bit more then about the reasoning that the International Criminal Court is giving
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for issuing these arrest warrants.
I'm still studying the details and we've just got them in the last few minutes.
So the ICC says the chamber considered that this is the pre-trial chamber at the International Criminal Court,
considered that there are reasonable grounds to believe that both individuals,
Benjamin Netanyahu, Yoav Gallant, both individuals intentionally and knowingly deprived the civilian population
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in Gaza of objects indispensable to their survival including food, water, medicine and medical supplies
as well as fuel and electricity.
It goes on to say that their role was critical, their failure to facilitate relief by all means at their disposal.
Also, it goes on, the chamber also found reasonable grounds to believe that no clear military need
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other than or other justification under international humanitarian law could be identified
for the restrictions placed on access for humanitarian relief operations.
Beyond this, just reading a little bit further down, finally the chamber assessed that there are reasonable grounds
to believe that Mr. Netanyahu and Mr. Gallant bear criminal responsibility as civilian superiors
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for the war crime of intentionally directing attacks against the civilian population of Gaza.
In this regard, the chamber found that the material provided by the prosecution only allowed to make findings on two incidents.
And so, these arrest warrants actually initially they were kept secret,
but one of the reasons why the ICC has released them now, they say, is to...
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because they believe similar conduct may be ongoing and they consider it in the interest of victims and their families
that they are made aware of the warrants existence.
Apologies for reading most of that from the ICC. These details are just coming in.
We're still digesting them here in The Hague, but this is a significant, considerable role.
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And it's more than just writing. These arrest warrants will have an impact because, of course,
every member of the ICC, more than 100 countries, are now obliged to arrest both of these individuals,
Benjamin Netanyahu, Joao of Gallant, if they set foot on their territory.
This is one of the requirements of countries signed up to the ICC. So this will have an impact on potentially the movement of both of these individuals.
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Anna, thank you very much for that. I appreciate you are making your way through.
What is a lot of detailed text, Anna, as you look at that statement from the International Criminal Court.
And we're going to cross now to Jerusalem, our correspondent, Yolande Nel is there.
We're also seeing this is from the former Israeli Prime Minister Naftali Bennett, who says the ICC arrest warrants are a mark of shame for the ICC.
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I am suspecting, Yolande, that it's probably way too early to get any feedback or any commentary reaction from there in Jerusalem.
If you have some, please do tell us. The other thing I want to ask you about, of course, are the news from hospital officials in the north of Gaza
saying many people have been killed in the latest Israeli airstrikes and what is going on there with regards to attempts at a rescue operation?
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Yeah, I mean, starting off with the International Criminal Court, we haven't had an official response yet from the Israeli Prime Minister.
We understand that he's currently meeting the US Special Envoy Amos Hoogstein, who's come here from Beirut to talk about a ceasefire in Lebanon,
a ceasefire between Israel and Hezbollah.
But we can go back to May and get some indication from then of the Prime Minister's likely response,
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because when the news that was put out by the chief prosecutor that he had applied for these arrest warrants,
Mr Netanyahu back then called this an outrageous decision.
He said that it was a moral outrage of historic proportions,
that it would cast an everlasting mark of shame on the International Criminal Court.
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He said that Mr Khan created a twisted and false moral equivalence between the leaders of Israel and the henchmen of Hamas,
because you'll remember as well that the International Criminal Court was going to look at arrest warrants for three senior figures in Hamas,
the masterminds of the 7th of October attacks.
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So that was Yahya Sinwar, Mohammed Dave, the head of the military wing, and Ismail Haniyeh, the overall leader of Hamas.
Now, all three of those men are since being killed, as far as we know.
The only person who still appears with an arrest warrant out for him now is Mohammed Dave, the head of the military wing.
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And that appears to be because the court acknowledges that his death has been reported.
We understood from the Israeli military that it used DNA evidence to assess that he was killed,
but there is not the same amount of evidence in the public domain.
Good afternoon.
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Yes, good afternoon, Mohtar. How are you doing?
I'm doing, you know. I'm doing. All right.
So I could talk about this. You hear the news about Netanyahu and the criminal court?
Yes, I'm just beginning to hear the news about them issuing an arrest warrant and that sort of thing against them.
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The challenge to Mohtar is who's going to arrest him.
Well, any country who's going to arrest him is any country where he's part of the international court.
If he steps into that country, they can arrest him.
Right, and he will not be stepping into any of those countries.
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Well, he better have to stay where he is.
So nobody would dare arrest him.
He can't get arrested in his own country. He can't get arrested in his own country.
Exactly. His own country is not going to arrest him.
The United States is protecting him. Many European countries are protecting him.
England, for example. Germany, they are sending weapons to Israel to go and use against the people in Gaza, the Palestinians in Gaza.
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So to him it's like a big joke because nobody can touch him.
Now, based off of what I'm saying, I don't think he'll take it as a joke.
I don't think he'll take it as a joke because that stifling movement as a head of state in a country where he would have to go and speak about certain things.
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So I don't think he'll take it as a joke given what he says. I don't know if you hear what I'm talking about.
But one thing, I don't think he'll get arrested still but I just want to tell you, it's not a joke thing.
Well, okay, it's not a joke but what I'm saying is, you know, Netanyahu said, dear anybody, because he hasn't left Israel for a long time now since this war started.
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No, man, he's going to America, man. They are not apart from America.
They are not apart from going to the United States and maybe if England wanted him to come or Germany, I mean, he knows that he's secure, you know what I mean?
But nobody, he doesn't think that anybody has the power to come and challenge him and try to arrest him, etc.
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You know, genocide is going on there. Crimes are being committed. What about the American support for the crimes committed?
What about the weapons that are being supplied? I believe that, I believe that Biden and Kamala Harris should also be investigated for their involvement in the crimes that is being committed by Israel, by Benjamin Netanyahu.
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Well, they must send bombs down there to bomb the people. They must send food. They must send food and they must send bombs. It's a joke business.
Exactly. Exactly. So when you look at the true meaning of this thing, it's not just Netanyahu that is carrying out this genocide.
He has been firmly supported by United States and by Germany and England. These are some of the main suppliers of weapons to Israel and they can just destroy all of Gaza.
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And listen, the people are using a word. There's no war going on. It is destruction.
Genocide. Genocide. Genocide.
Because Hamas is not giving them any fight. Hamas is a joke. I will not use the word joke. I mean, so small and insignificant, you know.
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And so what they really want to do is to completely destroy Gaza so that after they have destroyed it, they can go inside there and take over and run the place, etc., etc.
That is what the objective is.
All right. You told me that you're going to have a demonstration.
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A public meeting. A public meeting.
A public meeting. Okay. About the diplomatic relationship between Israel and Jamaica. What you intend to do?
Okay. All right. Well, listen now. Our position is that Jamaica should end diplomatic relations with Israel without saying that Jamaica can arrest Netanyahu or anything like that.
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No, they can't do that.
They have no economic power over Israel. But I do believe that real people should be demanding that the government end diplomatic relations with Israel.
Now, since this war started last year, the government of Jamaica has not used the word genocide to describe what is going on inside Gaza.
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They have not used that word at all. They make some little statements, you know, as if they are supporting what's going on with the people.
But they have condemned Israel explicitly and used the word genocide. Neither has the opposition PNP used the word genocide to describe what is going on inside Gaza.
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Again, they will say, well, they want a two-state solution and they will make, you know, little statements in support of the suffering of the people.
But they have not condemned Israel and condemned Netanyahu for the genocide and call it a genocide. Why aren't they doing that? Is it because they are afraid of the United States?
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Obviously, you have to ask that. Are they afraid of the United States? Of course. I don't know.
They are afraid of the United States. The present government has a cyber security agreement with Israel where they are giving cyber security to the security forces
so that you and I can be talking right now and they can be listening to our conversation publicly and privately.
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Those are the kind of things that cyber security is all about. That is what Israel does to its opponents and it has sent out the Pegasus software to many, many countries that can invade the privacy.
So the question now is that these two political parties seem to be compromised as well.
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And so therefore, we the people now have to start saying we need to end diplomatic relations with Israel.
And if very shortly we don't hear either of them coming out and saying, yes, I agree with you, we need to end diplomatic relations,
well, when these next elections come up next year, we are going to call for a boycott of the general elections because these two political parties are not deserving of our vote.
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Let me just say something historically. From way back, from Marcus Garvey time, right?
Marcus Garvey would condemn what was going on in South Africa. Marcus Garvey was one of the people who would have mass demonstrations or mass meetings in America, condemning what was going on in South Africa.
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And then in the 1950s, the Norman Manley government also did what is equivalent, even though they were a colony of England, they did condemn South Africa and said they would have no dealings whatsoever with South Africa.
No travel, no nothing, no nothing. And five, in Gaza, right? In Palestine. We don't want to be implicated.
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We are going to make our voices be heard very clearly and end diplomatic relations with Israel now, because if you don't end them up diplomatic relations, then it will come across in history as if we, the people in Jamaica, were supporting this genocide that is taking place.
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So I believe that the time is now for us to make our voices be heard and we will be agitating and organizing the Jamaican people to send a strong message to the government and to the opposition that they must begin to take this position of ending diplomatic relations with Israel now.
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Alright, so where are we going to have this meeting?
Okay, so this meeting will be held at the University of the West Indies, at a room near the library, right? Near the main library.
And we are going to...
Do you have a number and a letter? Do you have a number and a letter?
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The University of the West Indies, when you go there, you just go to the library and they will show you the main library on Saturday at four o'clock.
Yeah, so people can just go there four o'clock and we will have some presenters. We'll have Jalil Dabdu, who is a Jamaican of Palestinian origins, and you know, other speakers talking about corruption as well.
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There is a connection between Jamaica being a corrupt country and us being afraid to stand up on behalf of the Palestinians in Gaza.
You know, there is a connection. We can get into that discussion.
So we will be talking about corruption and we'll be talking about ending diplomatic relations with Israel.
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And not only will our presenters be saying what they have to say, but we're going to ask the audience to get up and express themselves and so on.
And then we will discuss down the road what we're going to do.
Maybe we will go to Jamaica House or Gardner House and roll up some placards and begin to send a message to the government and to the opposition that we are very serious about it,
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that diplomatic relations with Israel must end. You know, we're not going to put up with it anymore.
Marcus Garvey set the example way back when, when he stood up against the apartheid and the racism that was going on in South Africa.
And so we must do that because, you know, Muta, you know, we live in a world community, right?
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So what is happening in Gaza could happen in Jamaica.
If genocide is being committed against us in Jamaica, wouldn't we want people in other countries to stand up on behalf of the people who are suffering genocide in Jamaica here?
So we must send a message that we are part of the world community.
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There was a man named Air, Governor John Air, he committed a massacre in St. Thomas, right?
And well, the British removed him from Jamaica and brought him back to England.
And they tried to put him on trial in England for the human rights violation, the crimes against humanity, which were committed, the massacre,
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which is which is committed. And unfortunately, they weren't able to put him on trial, but they did bring him back.
And then we must remember that in 2010, a massacre was committed in Tivoli Gardens, right?
And even though the prime minister resigned a couple of months afterwards, he also should have been held accountable because he was a superior commander of that massacre,
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which took place in Tivoli Gardens. You understand?
Not come out and if you don't have to spend how much, millions of dollars to have court and trial and all that and not come out of it.
Exactly, exactly. You know what I mean?
So we have to become more aware of what is going on in the world, what is going on in Jamaica, what can happen here.
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The same thing happened in Gaza can happen there. Another Tivoli Gardens massacre can take place.
Another Moran Bay massacre. There was a Moran Bay uprising, but I call it the Moran Bay massacre because it's maybe a thousand people that they killed after that thing,
including Paul Bogle and executed them. You know what I mean?
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So those things are possible, man. We have to speak up and not just sit back because if we sit back and don't say nothing.
History will say, well, boy, Jamaica was one of the countries there where nobody knows nothing and nobody knows nothing.
One place in there.
Et cetera.
Yeah, okay. So you're saying Saturday, four o'clock, up at the University of the West Indies, one of the hallways near the library.
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Near the library, yes, the main library.
All right, sir.
Yeah, please, our working listeners will come and support and let us talk some more.
All right, sir. Give thanks, yeah?
All the best, Smuta. Take good care. All the best.
Adachi, A-D-A-C-H-I, Adachi, means daughter of God, daughter of God.
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Adayisi, Adayisi, A-D-A-E-Z-E, Adayisi, means princess, princess.
Abimbola, Abimbola, A-B-I-M-B-O-L-A, Abimbola means born to be rich, why them female name here, sweet.
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Adaya, Adaya, A-D-I-A, Adaya, gift from God has come, gift from God has come. So that's Adachi, Adachi, A-D-A-C-H-I, means daughter of God.
Adayisi, Adayisi, A-D-A-E-Z-E, Adayisi, means princess, Abimbola, A-M-B-O-L-A, Abimbola, born to be rich.
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And Adaya, A-D-I-A, means gift from God has come. Male names, Afafa, Afafa, A-F-A-A-F-A, Afafa means virtue.
Agunna, Agunna, A-G-U-N-N-A, Agunna means strong boy, strong boy. Ajiki, Ajiki, A-J-I-K-I, Ajiki, Ajiki means strength, strength.
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Sadiki, Sadiki, S-A-D-I-K-I means faithful, sincere man of truth, faithful, sincere man of truth.
And then, Afafa, Afafa, Afafa, Afafa means virtue. Agunna, Agunna, A-G-U-N-N-A, means strong boy. Ajiki, Ajiki, Ajiki, Ajiki means strength.
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Sadiki, S-A-D-I-K-I, Sadiki means faithful. Within our first 100 days of government, we will start the legislative process to fix the date for general elections in Jamaica.
So no government will be able to come and make false promises and hide the truth and tell you half-truths and trick you into voting for them. And then, when they win, they throw on poison on you.
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100 days, the fixed election date, still await on the promise to fulfil. One broken promise after another. Laughable, as we say. None of your promises will fulfil that promise. So we're there to wait.
Within the first 100 days of our government, we will start the legislative process to institute impeachment proceedings in Parliament. This will add another layer of protection of the Parliament to ensure that only members of unquestioned integrity sit in the Parliament.
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All ministers under the new Jamaica Labour Party government will be given a job letter. That job letter has a timeline of two years and six months, with key performance targets, which are agreed upon by the Cabinet, focused on two things, economic growth and job creation.
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Andrew, you need to do what you said. From 2016, you said you're going to put it on paper. So anything you put on paper, the MP, are for work, what you say you need to do it now. Can you feel like, say, when you do that, the MP will do them work and we will see work done in the community.
Hey, you're going, hey, so I'm telling you, you're going good, you know. You're going good, like you did in the IRA for a long, long time. Believe you me, you're going good, sister. Yes. We have to talk to them so they can raise a pay for you. Yeah? All right.
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So, Kavin, we're talking about Kavin. You're going good, man. Okay, here we go. Here we go.
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And now the details. Operations at three locations in the corporate area, including a high school were disrupted today due to bomb threats. The latest threat this afternoon resulted in persons being evacuated from the New Kingston Shopping Center on Dominica Drive and the nearby RKA building on Grenada Way.
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Speaking with area from news just before news time, Commissioner of the Jamaica Fire Brigade Stuart Bedford said checks were being conducted into threats and all safety protocols were implemented.
We would have received a call of bomb threat at those two locations. We would have taken steps along with the police to evacuate the New Kingston Shopping Center as well as the building at Grenada Crescent. The bomb squad would have done their sweep of the building at Grenada Crescent and will be making their way over to the New Kingston Shopping Center to pando a sweep of that facility in an attempt to locate any bomb threats.
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Any bomb that may be on the building has got powered into the calls that we would have received.
He noted that the Alpha High School for Girls on South Camp Road in Kingston was also affected by a similar threat. He said the institution was evacuated and no bomb was found.
We got a similar call for the Alpha Girls School at about 1.47 in the afternoon and that turned out to be false. The police and the fire brigade have turned up at that location.
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The sweepers down at the facility have been evacuated the school and nothing was located. No bombs were found. And so the all clear was given for that facility to be re-occupied. But by then the schools, the children would have left for the day.
Commissioner of the Jamaica Fire Brigade Stuart Beckford. Veteran Jamaica Labour Party, JLPT politicians Mike Henry and Carl Samuda will not be contesting the next general election.
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The announcement was made by JLPT General Secretary Dr. Horace Chang during a media briefing at party headquarters today.
Dr. Henry, who is 89 years old, is the member of parliament for the Clarendon Central constituency while 82 year old Samuda represents St. Andrew North Central. Both have been serving their constituencies since the 1980s.
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Dr. Chang noted that with several months ahead of the next election, he foresees no challenge in identifying successors.
Clarendon Central represented by Mike Henry OG and St. Andrew North Central represented by member of parliament Carl Samuda also another of the longest serving members.
JLPT General Secretary Dr. Horace Chang.
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The Labour Ministry says it commenced an industry assessment into the tourism sector, the results of which are expected January next year.
The assessment follows a series of protests by workers of at least four hotels. The workers are demanding better wages and working conditions.
In a statement today, the Labour Ministry said it's developing a strategic approach to address the concerns been reported by workers in the tourism sector.
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It said consultations are also being held with officials of the tourism ministry, which has conducted its own assessments.
Discussions surrounding the results of the industry assessment are expected to be high on the agenda of upcoming meetings of the Labour Advisory Council.
The Labour Ministry said the industry assessment will be a critical element in charting the most appropriate course of action in establishing a framework for the swift and efficient management of issues and handling disputes in the sector.
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He added that the recommendations by the Jamaica Confederation of Trade Unions for establishment of a joint industrial council, a workplace partnership between employers and trade unions that serves as a forum for consultation, will be discussed at the level of the LAC.
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The Jamaica Confederation of Trade Unions, JCTU, has welcomed the Labour Ministry's announcement that its suggestion for the establishment of a joint industrial council for the tourism sector will be discussed at upcoming meetings of the Labour Advisory Council.
Speaking with RFM News, JCTU President St. Patrick's Ennis said such a forum will allow for the issue to be discussed properly.
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That provides a forum within which the matter can be properly ventilated amongst the parties, which would be employers, the private sector group would be represented by the Employers Federation and other private sector interests.
And also you would have members from the trade union fraternity as well as government, the minister in particular who is, who chairs the Labour Advisory Commission.
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So we believe that forum of our public context within which we can properly...
I'm talking about.
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International court where we deal with international criminals.
Anyway I'm going to one of them countries.
I think it's about a hundred and a half country.
Sign up to that.
He shall be arrested.
For one being a representing a man for Uptown TV.
You understand?
...for alleged war crimes and crimes against humanity.
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Tom Perry is leading our CBC news team on the ground in Israel.
And he is in Jerusalem with these breaking details.
Tom let's begin first of all with the warrants for Benjamin Netanyahu and for Yoav Galant.
What did the documents say about why the ICC has taken this step today?
Well I've been taking some notes.
I was on the ICC website just sort of reading through these these statements as they've been coming out.
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And I can tell you that so for Benjamin Netanyahu and for Yoav Galant the former defense minister.
The allegations is that they committed crimes against humanity and war crimes dating back to October 8 2023.
So just a day after Hamas launched its October 7th attack into Israel.
Those alleged crimes include using starvation as a method of warfare, murder, persecution and other inhumane acts.
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So what does this mean?
Well it means that these could these two men could face arrest potentially if they traveled outside of Israel to a country that recognizes the ICC's jurisdiction.
You know the ICC has issued an arrest warrant for Russian President Vladimir Putin over the Russia's conduct in Ukraine.
You know he has traveled outside of Russia.
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He's not been arrested but that's kind of the I guess the category into which these two men are being placed.
We have seen some response now from the Israeli government.
Israel's president Isaac Herzog says this is an absurd decision.
And he posted on Twitter that this is a dark day for justice and a dark day for humanity.
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Tom I also want to ask the other part of this arrest warrant is for a former one of the former leaders of Hamas.
And there's been a little bit of reaction that's literally just been coming in as you've been reporting with us.
But a senior official talking to Reuters and saying that the ICC arrest warrants represent an important step toward justice.
Interestingly that it will benefit the Palestinian cause.
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So that is a little bit of Hamas reaction.
Although it's interesting because there is some confusion over whether this named former Hamas leader is still alive.
So what can you tell us about the other side of this arrest warrant?
That's right. So this arrest warrant from the ICC was for Mohammed Diab Ibrahim al-Masri.
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He is or was the highest commander of the military wing of Hamas.
He's alleged to have committed crimes against humanity including murder, extermination, torture, rape and other forms of sexual violence.
Now as you mentioned Israel claims that it killed this man al-Masri but that's never been confirmed by Hamas.
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Now the court says that it's not in a position to determine whether al-Masri is alive or dead.
And so that's why it went ahead and issued this warrant for his arrest.
When you walk in, time stops and you cry.
Court of International Court where we deal with international criminals.
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They know where I'm going. I'm going to one of them countries.
I think it's about a hundred dollar country. Sign up to that.
He shall be arrested. He shall be arrested.
So he's going to bail out now. I say it's anti-Semitism and all these things.
We want to hear the South African government first want them to draw them up and declare say this guy has committed crime against humanity.
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And they must know because they declare Netanyahu government as an apartheid government.
We call them experienced apartheid and they know and see what apartheid is first and second and third.
So now Netanyahu is in problems.
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America is in problems.
Joe Biden is the one who helped them and perpetuate the madness against the Palestinian people.
Yes, Joe Biden sneakily I tell them to stop and come to the table and I said, send them bombs.
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We bomb up the picnic them from last year. From last year, they must do it. Well, they say they the fall come home to Russia now.
So we'll see what's going to happen after that. We'll see what's going to happen because it's a major thing with major thing all over the world.
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So we must surely strike a card. Every country right now I carry that Netanyahu is no charge.
With genocide, criminalities.
Lawyers are being reminded that eligible persons are entitled to time off to vote in tomorrow's four by elections. The by elections are being held for the constituencies of Trilloni Southern and St.
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Andrew Northwestern, as well as the divisions of Annan Town in Clowden, Northern and March Bay in St.
Thomas Eastern. In a statement today, the electoral office of Jamaica said workers are entitled to three hours in addition to the normal meal hour.
This does not apply to employees whose work on polling day commences at or after 10 a.m.
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or concludes before or at 2 p.m. electors are being reminded to take their voter ID card to the polling station.
They may vote without their voter ID card, but the process will be faster if they have it.
The People's National Party PNP says the fatal stabbing of 11 year old Denham town high pupil Oh Mari Collie, allegedly by a female student, highlights the pressing need to address the root causes of violence among youth.
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Mari was stabbed to death during an altercation with a female pupil of Holy Trinity High School in downtown Kingston on Tuesday.
The 14 year old girl was placed in custody at the South Camp Juvenile Remand Center following the incident. In a statement today, the PNP said it's deeply saddened by Omar's death.
It's calling on the country to do more to address violence in and around schools.
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The body of an unidentified man was found along the Palisades Main Road in Kingston to on Tuesday.
The deceased is of dark complexion, slim built, 180 centimeters or five feet, 11 inches long and was clad in a multi-colored shirt only.
Reports from the Aliston Road Police are that at about 6 15 p.m. passersby stumbled upon the body and alerted them.
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Upon their arrival, the body was seen lying face down on the roadway.
The scene was processed and the body was removed to the morgue.
In news overseas, Mari's military leader has sacked the prime minister Shoguel Kokala Maiga and his government.
It follows rare criticism by Maiga of the junta's lack of clarity about a once promised return to democracy.
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A decree read on state television by junta leader Colonel Asami Goita said the duties of the prime minister and the members of the government were terminated.
Mali has suffered years of jihadist and separatist violence resulting in military coups in 2020 and 2021.
The junta had promised to hold elections and hand back power to civilians by March 2024, but subsequently postponed the vote.
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Relations between the military president and his civilian prime minister have been worsening for some time.
On Saturday, Maiga, while speaking to his supporters, criticized the lack of transparency in the running of the transition.
Finally, a British lawyer is the fifth tourist to have died in a suspected mass poisoning in low South East Asia.
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The UK's Foreign Affairs Foreign Office confirmed the 28-year-old's death on Thursday.
It comes after the family of a 19-year-old Australian national confirmed her death earlier on the same day.
Hours earlier, the US State Department told the media that an American man died in a tourist town.
Two Danish women aged 19 and 20 also died last week in Lowe's.
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The deaths remain under police investigation, but news reports and testimonies online from other tourists suggest they may have consumed drinks laced with methanol,
a deadly substance often found in bootleg alcohol.
Those were the local and international head...
Verona. Clark, good afternoon.
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Good afternoon, Mota, and to all your listeners as well.
I don't know if you've talked about it four times already, but you always have something for the customers down there. That's wonderful.
Yes, it is. And this one is no exception.
Well, I see you have a Black Friday thing going on. Tell me what is special about the Black Friday sales. I call it that, sales.
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Yes, it is. This weekend is our biggest Black Friday sale ever.
And that is because from the beginning of the month, we have been giving our customers some great deals.
But come tomorrow, it will be the main Black Friday sale, which starts tomorrow, November 22nd, and goes right up to Sunday.
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Right up to Sunday?
Yes.
OK, so this is the same Black Friday theme? It's the same theme, Black Friday, even when Sunday comes?
Even when Sunday comes. It's called Drop a Bag Black Friday.
All right. So tell me the offer you have and what you have on sale. Everything in the shop on sale?
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Everything in the shop is on sale. And customers will save big this weekend.
In appliance, we have stoves and washers starting at $19.999. And fridges. And fridges, persons can save up to $80,000.
We have televisions starting at $19.999.
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What size TV that is? $19.999.
That's a 32-inch TV.
OK. That's a good price. Good price, that.
It is. It is. And we have so much more. They can get a 50-inch Samsung at only $69,999 as well.
So it's a lot of excitement happening this weekend.
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All right. So let me ask you now. If you're in Kingston and you want to take part in the Manlyville sale,
can you say you want something in a Manlyville, but you can't come to Manlyville and you just pay a fee to the courts?
Sorry. Yeah, in Kingston or Westmoreland, you can pay a fee from there?
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Well, definitely. We have 29 stores, right? So whichever one if you want to.
And you can also shop online at courts.com. So wherever you are.
It's not specific to the Manlyville one then? Is every one of them?
No, no, no. It's all 29 stores.
OK, OK, OK. I thought it was just Manlyville. Manlyville one. And the same price, same Sunday.
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Black Sunday go right down. It's the same thing.
Sure. Black Friday is true. It's true.
Why are you laughing? Why are you laughing? Why? Should we say Black Sunday?
Yeah, well, if you have Black Friday, Black Saturday, Black Sunday, Black Sunday, it's gone back to White Monday.
All right. All right. So let me ask you now.
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When you come to the store, right? You don't have all of the money.
Even though it's a sale, can you have a monthly payment plan?
Still, I have to buy cash. Absolutely.
We have payment plan from six to 48 months and you don't have to pay us until February.
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We have a different payment. So persons, we know persons will actually need some assistance.
So they can shop on six to 48 months and they don't have to pay any money on 24 to 48 months until February.
Are you getting a sale on Black Friday, sale price?
If you come on Black Friday. Yes.
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Why you're generous, man. You're generous, man.
Can I come buy some tea? I'll sell them back.
The price. All right. So tell me what time you're home, what time you're closed.
Okay. So on Friday, we start at nine and we go up until eight at all stores.
On Sunday, we go from eleven to four in all stores as well.
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Okay. Sunday too? Yes. We are open on Sunday.
Till when? From eleven till four on Sunday.
Okay. So all the people who come and go to church, they have to go to church early.
Because you're going to wake up at four o'clock.
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We want them to come early as well because we have some early birthdays as well.
Tell me the early birthdays.
So for example, you can get a 17 kg washer.
A Marbe 17 kg washer for only 49,999.
And an 11 cubic freezer for 49,999.
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So these are just some of the early bird specials that we'll be having.
Okay. And you have that ride show till the Black Sunday?
No, man. The early bird is right. Yes. From nine a.m. to eleven Friday to Sunday.
And you have gifts with the things because sometimes you go in a course and get a gift.
Like you buy the freezer, you get a 90 inch TV. How does that go?
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That's at this time. This time we are focusing on giving some discounts
and allowing our customers to have some different payments until February.
So you still have to give away when you buy certain things though?
I mean apart from the sale thing, Black Friday thing.
Yes, man. We have a promotion that we call Sleigh Them.
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Where customers who shop over 65,000 enter to win whether their home makeover free.
So we are still inviting persons to come in.
Even after this Black Friday, we have so many more offers to give.
All right. When I ask, you see, like sometimes when you go to a course and you buy a fridge,
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they come and they give you a bulb for a gift.
So we are saying if you still do that, if you still get the gift,
when you buy a bulb, sorry, when you buy a fridge for 100,000,
they bring two 60 watt bulbs.
I said that I give. If that still go on, you still get the gift with the big thing then.
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Yes, we still offer gift promotions.
This Black Friday we are focusing on the sale.
All right. All right. Give thanks.
Well, I hope the people hear and come fast and quick.
You know. All right. Give thanks. Give thanks.
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Thank you.
Yeah, man. That's why it's very 1 o'clock from the branch manager for courts,
Mandeville, I hear them say, gift like gift. Yes, gift like gift.
Black Friday, go right up to Sunday.
So you can't say you never hear and you know, it should open early and close at 4 o'clock.
So you got to be there.
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Okay. This is still the same thing.
Yes, this is the same thing.
All right. What we're going to do, Muta?
All right. You're there or not? You're there or not?
I'm going to be there last year or so.
I think things are going to get better.
So you say education.
Especially like when we have got an election right here.
All right. So we had the prime minister talk about the crime rate gone down.
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But it's still over a thousand.
You know, so we're going to feel good now and we're celebrating on the street
because the crime rate gone down to little over a thousand.
The year is not done yet still, but I don't know who he's going to praise himself
or the police force or what he's going to deal with that,
but I don't see that as nothing to praise about, you know,
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because every time they come, at least him come on the radio,
and he's going to say the gang war is a problem.
The criminal activity with the gang is the main cause of the up surge of murder in Jamaica.
And like, I'm going to start to count how much time he said it.
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And when I say the thing has gone down to no level where we can feel, say,
that we're going to open the door and we window them and all them, we are taking the cold breeze at night time
instead of afraid, say, man are coming to your house, come shoot you.
But the man is not even waiting there in your house again, you know,
they must see up on the road, they are playing domino on the side of the road, and they shoot you.
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But what is, I don't know what is being done, what happened to them camera, body camera,
what they're supposed to have. Didn't I hear that the police force, I think a year or two ago,
they were not here, they have a big thing up at the arena where they must show off the new technology
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and the new this and that, what they get, that never involve the body camera them,
because the body camera is a very important part of the whole thing, you know.
Yeah, the people that are involved in shooting that thing can't lie when they have body camera.
And they say, I'm going to lock up the camera, which is something, indictment against the police,
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if I lock up the camera and shoot a man and then turn on the camera,
because we hear that the policeman there will shoot the youth there, whether they are criminal or not,
but it's like a conspiracy, you know, plant gun on them and all them, you hear that,
nobody, even though it's police, arrest the police, because they say it reach now,
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police arrest police now. When I hear you, I don't like that in Jamaica, police arrest youth,
police arrest police, police arrest criminal or people who intend to commit a crime.
But we hear the Prime Minister talk about the dropping of the murder rate to 1,000 and a year not done yet.
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I don't feel nobody feel safe for true, you say that to Mr. B.
I don't feel nobody feel safer because that's not acceptable place for the crime, the murder rate there.
For you really, really say yes, things are going on for Jamaica.
That is high, that is high, high, high. You understand, very high that.
So we hope, say, by the time it reach, well, if it reach November, if it reach December,
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the crime rate, nobody not kill nobody with gun till November, till January.
Maybe you can't say yeah, there's something, but the crime rate gone out of proportion,
very much gone out of proportion, still, still.
No, Jamaica and Israel are good friends.
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Yeah, man, the Prime Minister go down there and seal up certain things with them.
I don't know what would he say now about that criminal activity that this man unleashed for the people of Gaza,
the Palestinian people, the deliberate attempt to wipe out a nation and destroy a whole country.
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You know, if it can't build back, they wipe out a whole country, thousands of children die.
And them say that's just war, them a fight.
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That's just war.
We want to play a report, another report with the same thing that I say, for those of you who never hear the report.
We have a play this report about, we have to talk about South Africa, South Africa and into bringing this brother to justice,
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bringing him to the court, the world court, the crimes against humanity.
And as we said before, South Africa went through that with the Palestinians,
and them are go through, I guess that is why them is the first ones to bring this case against Netanyahu,
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the apartheid regime that hold one race superior and the other inferior.
That's the serious thing. We want to play it.
A story now developing in the last few minutes.
The International Criminal Court at The Hague has issued arrest warrants for the Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu
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and his former defence minister Yoav Gallant.
Among the things that the ICC is saying it is issuing these warrants for is,
it's alleged that Netanyahu, Gallant used starvation as a tool of war.
Just reading some commentary coming through from the ICC.
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The ICC saying it has reasonable grounds to believe they oversaw attacks on the civilian population.
Well, let's go straight now to The Hague and join our correspondent Anna Hologan and also Yolande Nel who's in Jerusalem.
Anna, to you first of all, tell us a little bit more then about the reasoning that the International Criminal Court is giving
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for issuing these arrest warrants.
I'm still studying the details and we've just got them in the last few minutes.
So the ICC says the chamber considered that this is the pre-trial chamber at the International Criminal Court,
considered that there are reasonable grounds to believe that both individuals,
Benjamin Netanyahu, Yoav Gallant, both individuals intentionally and knowingly deprived the civilian population
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in Gaza of objects indispensable to their survival including food, water, medicine and medical supplies
as well as fuel and electricity.
It goes on to say that their role was critical, their failure to facilitate relief by all means at their disposal.
Also, it goes on, the chamber also found reasonable grounds to believe that no clear military need
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other than or other justification under international humanitarian law could be identified
for the restrictions placed on access for humanitarian relief operations.
Beyond this, just reading a little bit further down, finally the chamber assessed that there are reasonable grounds
to believe that Mr. Netanyahu and Mr. Gallant bear criminal responsibility as civilian superiors
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for the war crime of intentionally directing attacks against the civilian population of Gaza.
In this regard, the chamber found that the material provided by the prosecution only allowed to make findings on two incidents.
And so, these arrest warrants actually initially they were kept secret,
but one of the reasons why the ICC has released them now, they say, is to...
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because they believe similar conduct may be ongoing and they consider it in the interest of victims and their families
that they are made aware of the warrants existence.
Apologies for reading most of that from the ICC. These details are just coming in.
We're still digesting them here in The Hague, but this is a significant, considerable role.
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And it's more than just writing. These arrest warrants will have an impact because, of course,
every member of the ICC, more than 100 countries, are now obliged to arrest both of these individuals,
Benjamin Netanyahu, Joao of Gallant, if they set foot on their territory.
This is one of the requirements of countries signed up to the ICC. So this will have an impact on potentially the movement of both of these individuals.
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Anna, thank you very much for that. I appreciate you are making your way through.
What is a lot of detailed text, Anna, as you look at that statement from the International Criminal Court.
And we're going to cross now to Jerusalem, our correspondent, Yolande Nel is there.
We're also seeing this is from the former Israeli Prime Minister Naftali Bennett, who says the ICC arrest warrants are a mark of shame for the ICC.
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I am suspecting, Yolande, that it's probably way too early to get any feedback or any commentary reaction from there in Jerusalem.
If you have some, please do tell us. The other thing I want to ask you about, of course, are the news from hospital officials in the north of Gaza
saying many people have been killed in the latest Israeli airstrikes and what is going on there with regards to attempts at a rescue operation?
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Yeah, I mean, starting off with the International Criminal Court, we haven't had an official response yet from the Israeli Prime Minister.
We understand that he's currently meeting the US Special Envoy Amos Hoogstein, who's come here from Beirut to talk about a ceasefire in Lebanon,
a ceasefire between Israel and Hezbollah.
But we can go back to May and get some indication from then of the Prime Minister's likely response,
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because when the news that was put out by the chief prosecutor that he had applied for these arrest warrants,
Mr Netanyahu back then called this an outrageous decision.
He said that it was a moral outrage of historic proportions,
that it would cast an everlasting mark of shame on the International Criminal Court.
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He said that Mr Khan created a twisted and false moral equivalence between the leaders of Israel and the henchmen of Hamas,
because you'll remember as well that the International Criminal Court was going to look at arrest warrants for three senior figures in Hamas,
the masterminds of the 7th of October attacks.
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So that was Yahya Sinwar, Mohammed Dave, the head of the military wing, and Ismail Haniyeh, the overall leader of Hamas.
Now, all three of those men are since being killed, as far as we know.
The only person who still appears with an arrest warrant out for him now is Mohammed Dave, the head of the military wing.
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And that appears to be because the court acknowledges that his death has been reported.
We understood from the Israeli military that it used DNA evidence to assess that he was killed,
but there is not the same amount of evidence in the public domain.
Good afternoon.
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Yes, good afternoon, Mohtar. How are you doing?
I'm doing, you know. I'm doing. All right.
So I could talk about this. You hear the news about Netanyahu and the criminal court?
Yes, I'm just beginning to hear the news about them issuing an arrest warrant and that sort of thing against them.
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The challenge to Mohtar is who's going to arrest him.
Well, any country who's going to arrest him is any country where he's part of the international court.
If he steps into that country, they can arrest him.
Right, and he will not be stepping into any of those countries.
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Well, he better have to stay where he is.
So nobody would dare arrest him.
He can't get arrested in his own country. He can't get arrested in his own country.
Exactly. His own country is not going to arrest him.
The United States is protecting him. Many European countries are protecting him.
England, for example. Germany, they are sending weapons to Israel to go and use against the people in Gaza, the Palestinians in Gaza.
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So to him it's like a big joke because nobody can touch him.
Now, based off of what I'm saying, I don't think he'll take it as a joke.
I don't think he'll take it as a joke because that stifling movement as a head of state in a country where he would have to go and speak about certain things.
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So I don't think he'll take it as a joke given what he says. I don't know if you hear what I'm talking about.
But one thing, I don't think he'll get arrested still but I just want to tell you, it's not a joke thing.
Well, okay, it's not a joke but what I'm saying is, you know, Netanyahu said, dear anybody, because he hasn't left Israel for a long time now since this war started.
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No, man, he's going to America, man. They are not apart from America.
They are not apart from going to the United States and maybe if England wanted him to come or Germany, I mean, he knows that he's secure, you know what I mean?
But nobody, he doesn't think that anybody has the power to come and challenge him and try to arrest him, etc.
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You know, genocide is going on there. Crimes are being committed. What about the American support for the crimes committed?
What about the weapons that are being supplied? I believe that, I believe that Biden and Kamala Harris should also be investigated for their involvement in the crimes that is being committed by Israel, by Benjamin Netanyahu.
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Well, they must send bombs down there to bomb the people. They must send food. They must send food and they must send bombs. It's a joke business.
Exactly. Exactly. So when you look at the true meaning of this thing, it's not just Netanyahu that is carrying out this genocide.
He has been firmly supported by United States and by Germany and England. These are some of the main suppliers of weapons to Israel and they can just destroy all of Gaza.
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And listen, the people are using a word. There's no war going on. It is destruction.
Genocide. Genocide. Genocide.
Because Hamas is not giving them any fight. Hamas is a joke. I will not use the word joke. I mean, so small and insignificant, you know.
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And so what they really want to do is to completely destroy Gaza so that after they have destroyed it, they can go inside there and take over and run the place, etc., etc.
That is what the objective is.
All right. You told me that you're going to have a demonstration.
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A public meeting. A public meeting.
A public meeting. Okay. About the diplomatic relationship between Israel and Jamaica. What you intend to do?
Okay. All right. Well, listen now. Our position is that Jamaica should end diplomatic relations with Israel without saying that Jamaica can arrest Netanyahu or anything like that.
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No, they can't do that.
They have no economic power over Israel. But I do believe that real people should be demanding that the government end diplomatic relations with Israel.
Now, since this war started last year, the government of Jamaica has not used the word genocide to describe what is going on inside Gaza.
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They have not used that word at all. They make some little statements, you know, as if they are supporting what's going on with the people.
But they have condemned Israel explicitly and used the word genocide. Neither has the opposition PNP used the word genocide to describe what is going on inside Gaza.
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Again, they will say, well, they want a two-state solution and they will make, you know, little statements in support of the suffering of the people.
But they have not condemned Israel and condemned Netanyahu for the genocide and call it a genocide. Why aren't they doing that? Is it because they are afraid of the United States?
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Obviously, you have to ask that. Are they afraid of the United States? Of course. I don't know.
They are afraid of the United States. The present government has a cyber security agreement with Israel where they are giving cyber security to the security forces
so that you and I can be talking right now and they can be listening to our conversation publicly and privately.
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Those are the kind of things that cyber security is all about. That is what Israel does to its opponents and it has sent out the Pegasus software to many, many countries that can invade the privacy.
So the question now is that these two political parties seem to be compromised as well.
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And so therefore, we the people now have to start saying we need to end diplomatic relations with Israel.
And if very shortly we don't hear either of them coming out and saying, yes, I agree with you, we need to end diplomatic relations,
well, when these next elections come up next year, we are going to call for a boycott of the general elections because these two political parties are not deserving of our vote.
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Let me just say something historically. From way back, from Marcus Garvey time, right?
Marcus Garvey would condemn what was going on in South Africa. Marcus Garvey was one of the people who would have mass demonstrations or mass meetings in America, condemning what was going on in South Africa.
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And then in the 1950s, the Norman Manley government also did what is equivalent, even though they were a colony of England, they did condemn South Africa and said they would have no dealings whatsoever with South Africa.
No travel, no nothing, no nothing. And five, in Gaza, right? In Palestine. We don't want to be implicated.
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We are going to make our voices be heard very clearly and end diplomatic relations with Israel now, because if you don't end them up diplomatic relations, then it will come across in history as if we, the people in Jamaica, were supporting this genocide that is taking place.
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So I believe that the time is now for us to make our voices be heard and we will be agitating and organizing the Jamaican people to send a strong message to the government and to the opposition that they must begin to take this position of ending diplomatic relations with Israel now.
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Alright, so where are we going to have this meeting?
Okay, so this meeting will be held at the University of the West Indies, at a room near the library, right? Near the main library.
And we are going to...
Do you have a number and a letter? Do you have a number and a letter?
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The University of the West Indies, when you go there, you just go to the library and they will show you the main library on Saturday at four o'clock.
Yeah, so people can just go there four o'clock and we will have some presenters. We'll have Jalil Dabdu, who is a Jamaican of Palestinian origins, and you know, other speakers talking about corruption as well.
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There is a connection between Jamaica being a corrupt country and us being afraid to stand up on behalf of the Palestinians in Gaza.
You know, there is a connection. We can get into that discussion.
So we will be talking about corruption and we'll be talking about ending diplomatic relations with Israel.
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And not only will our presenters be saying what they have to say, but we're going to ask the audience to get up and express themselves and so on.
And then we will discuss down the road what we're going to do.
Maybe we will go to Jamaica House or Gardner House and roll up some placards and begin to send a message to the government and to the opposition that we are very serious about it,
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that diplomatic relations with Israel must end. You know, we're not going to put up with it anymore.
Marcus Garvey set the example way back when, when he stood up against the apartheid and the racism that was going on in South Africa.
And so we must do that because, you know, Muta, you know, we live in a world community, right?
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So what is happening in Gaza could happen in Jamaica.
If genocide is being committed against us in Jamaica, wouldn't we want people in other countries to stand up on behalf of the people who are suffering genocide in Jamaica here?
So we must send a message that we are part of the world community.
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There was a man named Air, Governor John Air, he committed a massacre in St. Thomas, right?
And well, the British removed him from Jamaica and brought him back to England.
And they tried to put him on trial in England for the human rights violation, the crimes against humanity, which were committed, the massacre,
(40:50):
which is which is committed. And unfortunately, they weren't able to put him on trial, but they did bring him back.
And then we must remember that in 2010, a massacre was committed in Tivoli Gardens, right?
And even though the prime minister resigned a couple of months afterwards, he also should have been held accountable because he was a superior commander of that massacre,
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which took place in Tivoli Gardens. You understand?
Not come out and if you don't have to spend how much, millions of dollars to have court and trial and all that and not come out of it.
Exactly, exactly. You know what I mean?
So we have to become more aware of what is going on in the world, what is going on in Jamaica, what can happen here.
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The same thing happened in Gaza can happen there. Another Tivoli Gardens massacre can take place.
Another Moran Bay massacre. There was a Moran Bay uprising, but I call it the Moran Bay massacre because it's maybe a thousand people that they killed after that thing,
including Paul Bogle and executed them. You know what I mean?
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So those things are possible, man. We have to speak up and not just sit back because if we sit back and don't say nothing.
History will say, well, boy, Jamaica was one of the countries there where nobody knows nothing and nobody knows nothing.
One place in there.
Et cetera.
Yeah, okay. So you're saying Saturday, four o'clock, up at the University of the West Indies, one of the hallways near the library.
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Near the library, yes, the main library.
All right, sir.
Yeah, please, our working listeners will come and support and let us talk some more.
All right, sir. Give thanks, yeah?
All the best, Smuta. Take good care. All the best.
Adachi, A-D-A-C-H-I, Adachi, means daughter of God, daughter of God.
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Adayisi, Adayisi, A-D-A-E-Z-E, Adayisi, means princess, princess.
Abimbola, Abimbola, A-B-I-M-B-O-L-A, Abimbola means born to be rich, why them female name here, sweet.
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Adaya, Adaya, A-D-I-A, Adaya, gift from God has come, gift from God has come. So that's Adachi, Adachi, A-D-A-C-H-I, means daughter of God.
Adayisi, Adayisi, A-D-A-E-Z-E, Adayisi, means princess, Abimbola, A-M-B-O-L-A, Abimbola, born to be rich.
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And Adaya, A-D-I-A, means gift from God has come. Male names, Afafa, Afafa, A-F-A-A-F-A, Afafa means virtue.
Agunna, Agunna, A-G-U-N-N-A, Agunna means strong boy, strong boy. Ajiki, Ajiki, A-J-I-K-I, Ajiki, Ajiki means strength, strength.
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Sadiki, Sadiki, S-A-D-I-K-I means faithful, sincere man of truth, faithful, sincere man of truth.
And then, Afafa, Afafa, Afafa, Afafa means virtue. Agunna, Agunna, A-G-U-N-N-A, means strong boy. Ajiki, Ajiki, Ajiki, Ajiki means strength.
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Sadiki, S-A-D-I-K-I, Sadiki means faithful. Within our first 100 days of government, we will start the legislative process to fix the date for general elections in Jamaica.
So no government will be able to come and make false promises and hide the truth and tell you half-truths and trick you into voting for them. And then, when they win, they throw on poison on you.
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100 days, the fixed election date, still await on the promise to fulfil. One broken promise after another. Laughable, as we say. None of your promises will fulfil that promise. So we're there to wait.
Within the first 100 days of our government, we will start the legislative process to institute impeachment proceedings in Parliament. This will add another layer of protection of the Parliament to ensure that only members of unquestioned integrity sit in the Parliament.
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All ministers under the new Jamaica Labour Party government will be given a job letter. That job letter has a timeline of two years and six months, with key performance targets, which are agreed upon by the Cabinet, focused on two things, economic growth and job creation.
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Andrew, you need to do what you said. From 2016, you said you're going to put it on paper. So anything you put on paper, the MP, are for work, what you say you need to do it now. Can you feel like, say, when you do that, the MP will do them work and we will see work done in the community.
Hey, you're going, hey, so I'm telling you, you're going good, you know. You're going good, like you did in the IRA for a long, long time. Believe you me, you're going good, sister. Yes. We have to talk to them so they can raise a pay for you. Yeah? All right.
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So, Kavin, we're talking about Kavin. You're going good, man. Okay, here we go. Here we go.
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And now the details. Operations at three locations in the corporate area, including a high school were disrupted today due to bomb threats. The latest threat this afternoon resulted in persons being evacuated from the New Kingston Shopping Center on Dominica Drive and the nearby RKA building on Grenada Way.
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Speaking with area from news just before news time, Commissioner of the Jamaica Fire Brigade Stuart Bedford said checks were being conducted into threats and all safety protocols were implemented.
We would have received a call of bomb threat at those two locations. We would have taken steps along with the police to evacuate the New Kingston Shopping Center as well as the building at Grenada Crescent. The bomb squad would have done their sweep of the building at Grenada Crescent and will be making their way over to the New Kingston Shopping Center to pando a sweep of that facility in an attempt to locate any bomb threats.
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Any bomb that may be on the building has got powered into the calls that we would have received.
He noted that the Alpha High School for Girls on South Camp Road in Kingston was also affected by a similar threat. He said the institution was evacuated and no bomb was found.
We got a similar call for the Alpha Girls School at about 1.47 in the afternoon and that turned out to be false. The police and the fire brigade have turned up at that location.
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The sweepers down at the facility have been evacuated the school and nothing was located. No bombs were found. And so the all clear was given for that facility to be re-occupied. But by then the schools, the children would have left for the day.
Commissioner of the Jamaica Fire Brigade Stuart Beckford. Veteran Jamaica Labour Party, JLPT politicians Mike Henry and Carl Samuda will not be contesting the next general election.
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The announcement was made by JLPT General Secretary Dr. Horace Chang during a media briefing at party headquarters today.
Dr. Henry, who is 89 years old, is the member of parliament for the Clarendon Central constituency while 82 year old Samuda represents St. Andrew North Central. Both have been serving their constituencies since the 1980s.
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Dr. Chang noted that with several months ahead of the next election, he foresees no challenge in identifying successors.
Clarendon Central represented by Mike Henry OG and St. Andrew North Central represented by member of parliament Carl Samuda also another of the longest serving members.
JLPT General Secretary Dr. Horace Chang.
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The Labour Ministry says it commenced an industry assessment into the tourism sector, the results of which are expected January next year.
The assessment follows a series of protests by workers of at least four hotels. The workers are demanding better wages and working conditions.
In a statement today, the Labour Ministry said it's developing a strategic approach to address the concerns been reported by workers in the tourism sector.
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It said consultations are also being held with officials of the tourism ministry, which has conducted its own assessments.
Discussions surrounding the results of the industry assessment are expected to be high on the agenda of upcoming meetings of the Labour Advisory Council.
The Labour Ministry said the industry assessment will be a critical element in charting the most appropriate course of action in establishing a framework for the swift and efficient management of issues and handling disputes in the sector.
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He added that the recommendations by the Jamaica Confederation of Trade Unions for establishment of a joint industrial council, a workplace partnership between employers and trade unions that serves as a forum for consultation, will be discussed at the level of the LAC.
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The Jamaica Confederation of Trade Unions, JCTU, has welcomed the Labour Ministry's announcement that its suggestion for the establishment of a joint industrial council for the tourism sector will be discussed at upcoming meetings of the Labour Advisory Council.
Speaking with RFM News, JCTU President St. Patrick's Ennis said such a forum will allow for the issue to be discussed properly.
(52:48):
That provides a forum within which the matter can be properly ventilated amongst the parties, which would be employers, the private sector group would be represented by the Employers Federation and other private sector interests.
And also you would have members from the trade union fraternity as well as government, the minister in particular who is, who chairs the Labour Advisory Commission.
(53:19):
So we believe that forum of our public context within which we can properly...
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