Cristina Perez and Ilya Lerma: Power, Presence & the $10 Million Dollar Pushback

Episode 4: Cristina Perez and Ilya Lerma: Power, Presence & the $10 Million Dollar Pushback

In this episode of Verdicts & Vogue, Cristina Perez Hesano welcomes her friend, colleague, and fellow trial warrior Ilya Lerma for a raw and insightful conversation about life in the courtroom, in leadership, and as women balancing it all.

Ilya shares the backstory behind one of her most significant career moments — a $10 million medical malpractice verdict, the second-largest in Arizona, following a grueling trial marked by limited evidence, extreme bias in jury selection, and a panel that almost fell apart. With clarity and humility, she walks Cristina through how she managed the trial’s intense pressure, including prepping for closing arguments while literally sewing a ripped skirt minutes before stepping up for rebuttal.

They reflect on how personal injury work tests not just your legal skills but your emotional strength, strategic patience, and sense of identity. Ilya discusses the emotional fallout of navigating trial culture as a Latina woman, how gendered expectations shape courtroom interactions, and why it took years to build her own confidence, boundaries, and support systems. Together, Cristina and Ilya explore the fine line between toughness and vulnerability — and how to use both to your advantage.

Beyond the trial stories, the episode dives into deeper themes:

• Changing your name as a professional woman: What it means when your legal identity, law license, and brand are all tied to the name you started with.

• The myth of balance: Ilya shares how she shifted from trying to do everything perfectly to learning the power of saying “no,” redefining success, and finally prioritizing her health and family.

• What juries really think: From misunderstanding who pays a verdict to language and bias in voir dire, Ilya breaks down how juror perceptions can shape everything — and how women attorneys can better manage those narratives.

• Mentorship & connection: Ilya speaks on her experience with the national legal education platform Connectionology and the importance of building a legal career that honors your values and vision.

There’s laughter, there are lessons, and there’s a reminder that the strongest trial lawyers are often those who’ve lived through the most personal growth.

This episode is for every attorney who’s felt like they were doing too much and still not enough. It’s for women who’ve built careers while raising families, navigating co-counsel dynamics, and refusing to fit into anyone else’s mold.

🧠 Verdicts & Vogue is hosted by Cristina Perez Hesano of Perez Law Group in Phoenix, Arizona — a Latina trial attorney using this platform to give voice to real experiences inside and outside the courtroom.

🎧 Tune in for war stories, hard-won wisdom, and a few unexpected laughs.

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