March 4, 2025 • 32 mins
Life often leads us through challenging valleys, and it takes unwavering faith and support to navigate them. In this enlightening episode, we delve into Kiley's story—a journey marked by the discovery of a brain tumor, her move from California to Tennessee, and the transformative power of community.
Kiley opens up about her desire for a safer environment for her daughter and how that desire intertwined with her health crisis. The impactful moments of her diagnosis reveal the fears and questions that surfaced during this harrowing time. Yet amidst the uncertainty, Kiley's reliance on prayer and the support from friends and family become a beacon of hope.
Through Kiley's experiences, we learn about the profound significance of sharing our stories and seeking help during tough times. There’s an important reminder in her journey: we are never truly alone, and God's timing can unexpectedly align with our needs. Join us as we embrace the powerful narrative of faith, resilience, and the strength found in community.
This episode is not just for those in similar valleys, but for anyone seeking hope and connection in their journey. Tune in, and let Kiley's powerful testimony inspire you. Subscribe, leave a review, and share this uplifting episode with those who may need encouragement!
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Kiley (00:00):
Welcome to the very first official episode of Walkthrough
.
I'm Gianina and I'm so excitedyou're here.
This podcast is about findingGod in the valleys of life and
walking through them with faithand hope.
To kick off this journey, I'mjoined by my co-host and my
amazing friend, Kiley, who hasan incredible story to share,
from trusting God's timing to somany unexpected things that
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she's faced with her family, andher journey is a powerful
example of walking through thevalley with a whole lot of faith
.
So, Kiley, welcome officiallyas our first guest.
I'm so glad we're doing this.
I know it has definitely beenlong overdue and I'm excited to
hear your story because,although I know probably most of
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your story just from walkingalongside of you as your friend,
I know that there's probably alot of things that you probably
even just kept to yourselfbecause you didn't think that
you could share that with otherpeople, or things that you've
gone through, or words that Godhas given you, and so I'm
excited to learn even more aboutit.
So let's just start off withwith your story who are you?
(01:09):
And just tell a little bit moreabout yourself, sure.
So my name is Kiley, Gianina andI met gosh.
Has it been 10 years already,almost 10 years ago.
I live here in Tennessee withmy husband, ryan, and our
14-year-old daughter, and grewup in most of my life.
(01:30):
Grew up in California,surrounded by family and friends
, and now we're all kind of justspread across the country.
Yeah, I grew up in the church.
We've always been really strongin our faith.
I'm 43 years old, almost 43years old, and I've got lots of
different stories, as I'm sureanybody else would at my age,
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and God has just proven hisfaithfulness and his goodness
Home and time again.
Yeah, I love that and I thinkthe older that we get, the more
that we see how he has been in,like every situation, even when
we maybe didn't see it or feelit at that time.
So absolutely looking back,yeah.
(02:11):
So let me ask you this what isthe reason that you decided to
move from California toTennessee, or how did that kind
of come about?
So the journey to Tennessee waspretty much like 10 years in the
making.
Since you met me, because youknow I'm in Tennessee.
Well, yeah, I'm just kidding.
No, it really.
(02:32):
It started when Reese waslittle.
So just a little morebackground.
I was born in Nebraska and thenmy family moved to California
and then we moved to Montanawhen I was in first grade.
So we were there for, I think,a year, year and a half, and
then we moved back to Californiaand that's where I had been
until we moved here.
(02:52):
But when Reese was younger, whenshe was probably two or three
years old, we started to reallyhave the desire to move out of
California, just so that wecould give her not necessarily a
better life, but a differentlife, because where we were in
California it wasn't safe forher to play outside.
(03:16):
We were constantly monitoring,you know, stuff that was going
on around the city, and so we,we really had a desire to move
somewhere where we could have,you know, open spaces, a slower
pace, you know, just just togive her those different
experiences that I it's weird tosay a different experience than
(03:39):
I had when I was a kid or orsimilar to what I had as a a kid
, because I didn't grow up inthe country necessarily, but I
just feel like times were sodifferent back then and maybe
things were very similar to whatthey are now.
We just know more about itbecause of social media.
But you know, I spent most ofmy time playing outside with my
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sister and going to friendshouses.
We didn't have video games andI mean we had Nintendo, but you
know there was a lot of stuffthat we didn't know we.
There was a lot of stuff thatkids have access to now that we
I didn't even have till I, youknow, graduated high school.
So we just we ultimately wantedsomething different for her and
(04:21):
we started, started with theidea of moving to Idaho because
we knew that my parents weregoing to be retiring there and
we figured if we were going tomove out of state we should
probably go somewhere where weknow family or have friends, and
at that time we just were notin a position to really
financially be able to doanything and eventually got
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priced out of it.
Then we moved, or sorry, wedidn't move, obviously.
I guess we moved on to the ideaof moving to Montana because
that has always felt like homefor me, just because of, you
know, the memories and thefamily members that I have over
there.
And of course, the showYellowstone comes out and we get
get priced out of that.
So yeah, so we kind of, we kindof let things go, but we still
(05:09):
had that desire and we prayedabout it and you know, every
night we would, we would sayprayers, you know, with Reese
before bed, and always on ourlist was you know, god just
opened those doors for us.
That that's if, if you know, ifyou want us to make any kind of
move and just allow it tohappen.
And over the years we hadfriends um move out of state and
(05:32):
I was always curious to heartheir stories about how you know
, how it happened for them.
And every single one of themjust said you know it, just the
doors opened and things justwent really naturally.
And while I was so excited forthem, I kept wondering why is it
not happening for us?
(05:54):
So, fast forward to 2020, theyear that everybody is just so
fond of reminiscing over.
Reminiscing over, sorry.
In September I started dealingwith some pretty regular
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headaches that were always inthe same spot and no medicine,
nothing I did was touching itand I had to kind of think
outside the box.
And because I've grown up withheadaches, you know this.
I've struggled with migrainesand headaches for a really long
time.
Gianina (06:30):
Yeah.
Kiley (06:30):
And before you know when I would take ibuprofen, it would
knock them out and I would befine.
But these ones were just, theyjust would not go away.
And so I started thinking okay,we're in the middle of a
pandemic.
I went from working partly fromhome to full-time from home
sitting in front of a computer.
Maybe it's eye strain, maybeit's muscle tension, maybe it's
(06:52):
stress.
So I started going to thechiropractor.
I went to the eye doctor.
I got a new chair for my office.
I was doing everything I couldthink of to try to try to get
these things to go away andnothing really worked.
So I eventually made a call tomy doctor and she said Okay,
let's, let's do some blood workto just make sure there's
(07:14):
nothing inflammatory going on.
We'll do an MRI, make sureeverything structurally is okay.
And I said Fine, you know, Ihave, I've had MRIs before and
nothing has ever shown up.
So I was just kind of goingwith the flow.
And on November 19th was myfirst MRI scan, and I think it
(07:34):
was the next day.
It might have even been thesame night, I honestly can't
remember.
But my doctor called me and shesaid OK, they, they found a
mass in your left frontal lobeand it's about 1.2 centimeters,
and they want you to have an MRI, with and without contrast, so
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that they know what it is thatthey're dealing with.
She said it is consistent withwhat they call a meningioma,
which is often a benign braintumor.
Usually they're not cancerous.
And so you I'm getting thiscall as we're in our bedroom.
Ryan is taking a nap in the bednext to me and I'm just like I
think I was watching tv orsomething, and so I get this
(08:19):
phone call and as soon as,because they found a math, I
like grabbed his arm and he justwoke up like what's happening
and I just I you know startedtearing up and told them what
was going on.
And so, anyway, have the MRIwith the with and without
contrast, and it confirmed thisis what we're dealing with.
(08:41):
So I see the neurosurgeon inDecember and I'm at this
appointment by myself and theappointment where I met her
because it was she, she was heroffice was in a hospital, so
during covid, like you couldn'thave anybody with you, it was
just the person for theappointment.
Yeah, and I'm sitting there andshe was.
(09:04):
I want to say she was close totwo hours late for the
appointment, so I'm literallysitting in this room, just not.
Of course, I know that I'd havethis tumor, but I don't know
what she's gonna say.
I don't, I don't know anythingat this point.
And so I'm sitting there bymyself and she comes in and she
(09:24):
kind of rushes it.
I think she was in surgery orsomething, but anyway she.
The first thing she says wasokay, we can have surgery, it's
small enough, it's in a easy youknow spot to get out.
It was literally sitting righton top of my brain and you know
she says it hasn't really.
It doesn't look like it'sattached to anything really.
(09:45):
So you know we could do that.
It's also very reasonable foryou to wait six months and do
another scan and see, you know,if there's been any growth.
Because what she told me withmeningiomas is that they don't
grow linearly.
So they could be the same sizefor years and then have a weird
growth spurt, or they can growconsistently and then stop.
(10:07):
So you just never know howthey're going to react
consistently and then stop.
So you just never know howthey're going to react.
So I talked to Ryan and theonly two people that we have
known that have gone throughbrain surgery did not come out
of it the same and their brainsurgeries were for different
matters.
They both had glioblastomas.
The tumors were larger andharder to get caught in the
(10:32):
brain, but that was the onlything we knew.
And so we decided to wait.
And for six months, almost everysingle day, I was thinking
about it what's going on?
What is it doing?
How is it growing?
Every time I had a headache,what is it doing?
How is it growing?
Every time I had a headache,you know, my mind would just
(10:52):
start spinning and I was prayingconstantly like, okay, god,
just take this away from me,just let it miraculously
disappear from the MRIs, becauseI've heard about that happening
before, and it was pray, pray,pray.
And so, six months later, Ihave my scan and I meet with a
(11:14):
doctor on the day of our 15thwedding anniversary, which was
yay.
A doctor walks in and the firstthing she says is okay, I see
that there's been some growthand.
I just my heart shattered andthankfully my mom was with me
because Ryan couldn't make it tothat appointment.
(11:35):
So while I'm going throughscenarios in my head, she's
asking all the questions and thedoctor said no, we can still
have surgery.
It's still small enough to getout fairly easily.
We could also do radiation, butthere's side effects with that
and it's not 100% guarantee thatyou know it would be taken care
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of completely.
And I said OK, if I decided notto do anything, when would when
would you recommend my nextscan be?
And she said three months.
Scan B and she said threemonths.
So she didn't tell me directly,but I could tell that it was
concerning enough for her towant to monitor it more closely
because it had already grown somuch and you know that six month
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period.
So Ryan and I went away for ouranniversary.
We talked about it that weekendand we came to the conclusion
that you know, it wasn't amatter of if I should have the
surgery, but when, because weobviously wanted to do it when
it was easy enough to get outand not wait too long to where
it would start attaching tothings and get harder to remove.
(12:44):
So I was set up for surgery.
I think it was like two weeks,like it happened really fast and
I had never had surgery before,I had never even been under
anesthesia and I thought part ofone of the funny things, yeah
so Ryan's whole thing has alwaysbeen go big or go home.
So yeah.
(13:05):
I was like okay, well, I'm justgoing from no surgery ever to
having brain surgery, that'sgotta be like terrifying yeah.
Why?
And I got into the pre-op roomagain Ryan couldn't be in there
with me and the nurse.
I remember she was checking myvitals and she said you must be
really nervous.
(13:26):
I said, well, yeah, I mean,this was kind of a big deal.
She says your heart rate is asfast as a child's.
Gianina (13:32):
My goodness.
Kiley (13:33):
Yeah.
So one of the things that wascomforting to me was my
sister-in-law worked at thehospital where I had my surgery
and a friend of hers wasactually a nurse who scrubbed in
on my surgery.
So she came into the pre-oproom and she said oh, I'm
Jennifer's friend, I'm going tobe in your surgery today.
So I was that kind of put me atease a little bit.
(13:54):
My surgeon came in and sheanswered any last minute
questions and I asked her tokind of track the size of the
tumor from when we found it towhat it is now and she said it
had basically grown from thesize of like a pencil eraser to
a grate and that was in a sixmonth period.
(14:16):
So she says we're doing theright thing, we're making the
right decision.
So the anesthesiologist givesme my little cocktail and I
don't even remember making itout of the pre-op room.
Next thing I know I'm waking upin recovery and Ryan's on my
right and the doctor's on theleft.
She said she got it out and wefound out the pathology show
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that it was a grade one benignmeningioma, which is pretty much
like best case scenario.
She actually said if she wereto have anything, that's what
she would want.
So, in my thinking, it was.
You know, while I mean it tookme a little while to process
this, but hindsight is always20-20.
(14:57):
So, when you're thinking aboutthe process of things, I
remember praying for God to takethis away from me and, while it
didn't happen in a way that Ihad imagined, he still took it
away from me by putting me inthe right place with the right
doctors and the right hospitaland the right insurance.
You know, and and I don't knowif you remember me writing about
(15:21):
this, but, uh, I remember thatparable of the, the neighborhood
that flooded and the, the guywas sitting on top of his roof
and people were coming by to tryto help him and he kept saying,
oh no, thanks, god's gonna takecare of me, god's gonna take
care of me, and, and heeventually drowns.
(15:42):
And when he goes to heaven, hesays God, what happened?
Why didn't you save me?
And he says, well, I sent theboat and I sent the helicopter
and I sent these other people.
But you know, so I just feltlike all of those things were
God's way of rescuing me and andtaking me out of that situation
.
Gianina (16:02):
Yeah.
Kiley (16:03):
So, going back, I promise this ties in to our move to
Tennessee.
This ties in to our move toTennessee.
We had scheduled a trip tovisit Tennessee because our
nieces had moved here and boughthouses and so we it was just
going to be a visit to see themand so we came in August, so two
months after my surgery, and wewere here for 10 days and we
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were able to just kind of drivearound and we, we just fell in
love with the area and so thatstarted the.
You know, that startedTennessee being on our radar of
possible places to move.
So in February we came back forjust like a weekend trip because
it was my birthday, and ourniece told Ryan that there had
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been a posting in the city thathad been open for a year and it
was for an electrical inspectorand he was an electrician in
California.
But he knew that it wasn't ajob that he could necessarily
retire in because it was so hardon his body and you know this
would have been a job that wouldallow him freedom from that.
But you know, also give himgood benefits, good retirement.
And so he he found out whatcertifications he would need.
(17:18):
He took the test, he gotcertified, he interviewed in
March and we put the house upfor sale in April and we were
here in June.
Gianina (17:28):
Once it once it happened.
Kiley (17:30):
It happened, yes, and so well, and I remember this is a
weird piece of information, butI remember he was in the shower
one day and we were talkingabout it over the shower curtain
and he's like, yeah, so let'scontact this person, let's get
our house up for sale.
And I said wait, wait, wait,wait, wait a second, because we
have been talking about this forlike eight years, nine years at
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this time, why.
Now he says I don't know.
I just feel like it's a Godthing, like it's just things are
falling into place.
And it was then what I thoughtback of all of my other friends
who had moved.
It's like, okay, I get it.
So I always think about how wehad been praying for these
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things for so long and it's likeI I genuinely believe that God
wants to, wants to give us thedesires of our hearts and it,
but he, his timing, is perfect.
So it's like if we had, if wehad forced a move before my
diagnosis or my surgery, whoknows how that would have worked
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out.
Gianina (18:35):
Yeah, A different doctor on a different day could
have had a different outcome youknow yes.
Kiley (18:41):
So, and, honestly, the doctor that I had, I originally
had asked my primary like, isthere anybody else that I can
see?
Because I just I didn't reallylike where her office was and
she kind of rushed me in myappointment and my physician she
was like, you know, she's thebest one around, and so I gave
it another go and she hadactually moved offices and it
(19:03):
was such a different experiencefrom that very first appointment
I had.
And she actually, when we haddecided to have the surgery, she
opened up an hour before shestarted taking other patients,
just so she could go down mylist of questions.
She was fantastic, yeah, yeah.
(19:24):
So, yeah, it was quite awhirlwind and I and I will say a
funny, funny tidbit, I don'tknow if you've ever had an MRI,
um, but there is a, there's aseries or sequence of sounds and
it's very repetitious, butthey're they're all different
and it was during those MRIsthat I felt like and my MRIs
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were, you know, 30-45 minutesjust because of everything that
they needed to do, and I wouldalways be praying during them.
But I would pray in the youknow the pattern, you know like
Lord, take this away from me,lord, take this in the bed and I
would like yeah, but I wouldlike, as people came to my mind,
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I would start praying for otherpeople, and so it's kind of odd
that I would.
I met God in the MRI machinesyeah, pretty frequently, that's
so cool.
Gianina (20:17):
That's so cool, though, and I think it's interesting
hearing your perspective on thisnow, because I think when you
were going through it and wewere having conversations about
it, I just remember at that time, when you were sharing, I never
once doubted, I never once wasworried that something bad would
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happen, or like Kiley's notgonna be okay, or what if this
happens, or what if that happens?
Somehow?
It was like God just told meshe's fine, she's gonna be okay,
and so I don't remember everhaving a moment of fear when it
comes to that and I don't knowif it was just because of you
(20:58):
were talking to me or if this ishow you were feeling in the
moment, but I don't remember alot of like.
It didn't seem like fear wasoverwhelming for you in those
moments, and I could be wrong,you know.
Maybe you just like covered itreally well, but I just remember
.
Obviously there were concernsand there were questions and
(21:18):
there was wondering, but I don'tremember a paralyzing fear to
hit you.
Kiley (21:25):
Yeah, I definitely remember being very anxious
about it, but I don't think Iallowed it to control me.
And I think I remember we hadtalked maybe a day or two before
the surgery and I remember yousaid something to me Because one
of my biggest, my biggestconcerns was the left frontal
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lobe is where your personalityis and stuff, and so I was
afraid that I wasn't going to beme afterwards.
And I remember telling you thatI had I also had viral
meningitis in 2008.
And I was hospitalized for likenine days with that.
And you had said I don't evenknow if you remember this, but
you're like it's no wonder why.
(22:05):
Why Satan keeps trying to attackthat part of you because you're
just such a unique and kindperson and he doesn't want good
things for you.
And I just remember thinkinglike, yeah, you're right, and if
that's what he's trying to do,then I know that God's going to
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bring me out of this.
Okay, and when we actually,when we told Reese about this,
she knew that I had a, had atumor and we were monitoring it,
but when we told her that Ineeded to have surgery, she was
like, okay, I said, do you haveany questions?
She says no, I was going to takecare of you, you'll be, okay,
and I think it was honestly, Ithink it was, honestly, I think
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it was just I had such anamazing support system around me
that I don't.
I don't think people wereletting me sit in it and be
afraid.
You know, like they would talk.
Wait, they would talk methrough the fear, they would
talk me through the worry and um, and I'm sure my parents were
beside themselves, even thoughthey didn't show it to me in
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that moment.
But yeah it was definitely ascary time.
Gianina (23:14):
I think about how beautiful that timing is, even
having that community around you, because if it would have been
after you moved, you may nothave had that immediate
community.
Or even if it would have beenyears before you had a solid
community, it may have been alittle bit harder.
And so, just like God'sfaithfulness in bringing people
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around you, that like it's likeeven if he didn't audibly speak
to you he put people around you,that like spoke his truth into
your life and that gave youpeace, like even Reese
Absolutely yeah, yeah.
Kiley (23:50):
And my mom, you know, she was at church one night and
there was a song that she just,I guess, started weeping too,
and it was honestly I can'tremember what it was.
She can tell you, but it hadsomething to do with, like you
know, having an army behind youand she's like they saying this,
and I just immediately thoughtof you and this was God's way of
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telling me that you were goingto be okay.
Gianina (24:14):
Yeah.
Kiley (24:14):
And she had also told me she was in the waiting room with
Ryan and his mom and she waspraying for the angels to
surround me.
And she says at that exactmoment when she said that prayer
, she saw this really superhugely tall nurse walking around
the waiting room, which is likehello god is that one of her
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nurses.
So, yeah, there, there was justa lot, of, a lot of blessings in
that, um, you know, and there'stimes when, like after the
surgery, because I, when I found, when I, when I was diagnosed
with this, I, you know, one ofthe first things people do these
days is join Facebook groups sothat you can, you know, talk
with other people who are goingthrough the same thing.
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There are so many people whoare, who are dealing with with
these things on a daily basisand their symptoms are just I, I
, I, I almost like feel guiltythat I had it so easy, or I
don't know if that's the right,if I want to say it that way.
(25:16):
I don't want to diminishanything that anybody else is
going through, but I'm like, whywas I, you know, so lucky with,
with what I got, versus thisother person who's just dealing
with all of this struggle, andthere are a lot of people that
have said they don't really havemuch of a support system, or
people are downplaying it likeit's not a big deal for them.
(25:38):
And I just felt like I had suchan opposite experience because
I did have so much support.
I knew that, people knew that Iwas scared and they walked me
through it.
I knew that people knew that.
I was scared and they walked methrough it.
Gianina (26:03):
And yeah, I, just I.
I would encourage anybody whois going through that to just
pray about it and pray that adifferent, like health issue or
something that they're dealingwith.
What would you say to them tokind of like help them navigate
through this season?
Kiley (26:18):
I would just I would remind them that God's timing is
everything and, even thoughthere are certain things that
happen to us that we cannotunderstand, is walking with us.
You know, and if you don't havesomebody in your immediate
support that can offer that kindof guidance and support to you,
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just keep praying that God willshow you where you do have
support.
I think sometimes people are sofocused on what they can see
and what they have right in thatmoment that they forget to look
to the side and think like, oh,you know what this thing
happened over here, or I do havethis person over here, you know
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, and it's hard to like focus onmultiple things and not just
focus on what you don't have.
Yeah, prayer is huge.
Yeah, I, and I I would say, ifyou can, if, if somebody is
going through something, thereis almost 100% of the time there
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is somebody else who has gonethrough something very similar.
So I, you know the Facebookgroups.
Sometimes they're great forfinding people like that where
you can connect with them.
Obviously it's social media, soyou know there might not always
be that thing, but like, evenif you just go to a prayer group
at church or try to find peoplethat can sit with you.
(27:46):
You know, just you got to tryto seek it out.
Gianina (27:51):
Yeah, I think if I can say, like you hit it right there
, like you have to seek it out,because, especially when you're
going through something, it'sreally easy Like the enemy will
just put it in your mind Likeyou're alone, nobody's there for
you.
You're the only one that's everdealt with this Like.
This is just you and so it's soimportant to like let people
know if you're scared, letpeople know if you're hurting,
(28:13):
let people know if there'ssomething going on, because I
know for me when I've gonethrough things.
I just kind of assumed peopleknew how I was feeling and just
like blame shifted Like well,nobody's here for me as I'm
going through this situation butreally nobody knew that I
needed somebody, and so it'simportant to reach out to that
(28:34):
community and look at ask God,like literally, you can just ask
him and say who is it thatyou've placed in my life that I
need to reach out to about this?
Like, and if you don't haveanybody, pray that God would
bring those people into yourlife, because he's definitely
faithful to answer that.
Kiley (28:52):
Yeah, well, and I remember that when I shared my
story, there were a couple ofpeople that responded and said,
oh my gosh, I had somethingsimilar.
And, oddly enough, one of myneighbors now she had a
meningioma removed, not in thesame location as mine, but it
was literally like we werewithin months of each other of
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having this, and so I found outand we were just able to connect
.
So you never know, unless,unless you do share it.
And then, because I thinksometimes people are reluctant
to share their stories becausethey don't want to, maybe they
don't want to bring attention tothemselves or it's something
that's a little bit like they,they I don't know if they feel
(29:34):
like they want to just deal withit by themselves, but I think
once, once you share your story,you're bound to have people
that will come out and be likehey, yeah, I dealt with that too
and it was really scary.
Yeah, so.
So, and the other thing toremember, too, is if something
is happening in your life thatyou feel is so overwhelming to
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you, but you compare it tosomebody else's story, don't,
don't, don't let that be, don'tlet that make you feel afraid to
share your story, because, eventhough it may be different from
somebody else's, it's stillsignificant for you.
So don't downplay what it isthat you're going through just
because you feel like somebodyelse has it worse.
Yeah because it's still like,it's still affecting you and
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your life and you.
You need to be able to havepeople that are going to support
you through that.
Gianina (30:24):
Yeah absolutely Well.
Thank you so much for sharingyour heart and your story and I.
It just makes me like that muchmore excited for us to do this
together, because that truly iswhat it's all about like to
share our stories and givepeople hope and to share, show
people that they're not aloneand they have other people that
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are walking through this journey.
It's like, yes, the Lord is sofaithful and walking through
this life with us, but he'sgiven us this community and he
has given us each other to dothis with too.
So that's definitely such apowerful thing and you have such
a great testimony of faith andperseverance.
And, literally, I guess what Isaid back in 2020, which I don't
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remember, but it's true theenemy is going to try to attack
the parts of us that God has thebiggest purpose in, so just you
know, to stay encouraged inthat.
So thank you so much, and I justwant to encourage anyone who is
listening to that If you'rewalking through this kind of
valley or any kind of valley, Ijust really hope that Kiley's
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story encourages you and remindsyou that you're not alone and
God is with you.
We're here with you and I hopethat you have more community
that is here with you as well,and if this episode does
encourage you, we just want toask you to subscribe, leave a
review and share it withsomebody else who you think may
need to hear this, because therejust are so many people and
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we're going to have so many morestories to come that I know
people can be encouraged by, andwe're definitely honored that
God would put this podcast onour hearts, where we can share
these things with you and be alight in the world in this way.
Welcome to the very first official episode of Walkthrough
.
I'm Gianina and I'm so excitedyou're here.
This podcast is about findingGod in the valleys of life and
walking through them with faithand hope.
To kick off this journey, I'mjoined by my co-host and my
amazing friend, Kiley, who hasan incredible story to share,
from trusting God's timing to somany unexpected things that
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she's faced with her family, andher journey is a powerful
example of walking through thevalley with a whole lot of faith
.
So, Kiley, welcome officiallyas our first guest.
I'm so glad we're doing this.
I know it has definitely beenlong overdue and I'm excited to
hear your story because,although I know probably most of
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your story just from walkingalongside of you as your friend,
I know that there's probably alot of things that you probably
even just kept to yourselfbecause you didn't think that
you could share that with otherpeople, or things that you've
gone through, or words that Godhas given you, and so I'm
excited to learn even more aboutit.
So let's just start off withwith your story who are you?
(01:09):
And just tell a little bit moreabout yourself, sure.
So my name is Kiley, Gianina andI met gosh.
Has it been 10 years already,almost 10 years ago.
I live here in Tennessee withmy husband, ryan, and our
14-year-old daughter, and grewup in most of my life.
(01:30):
Grew up in California,surrounded by family and friends
, and now we're all kind of justspread across the country.
Yeah, I grew up in the church.
We've always been really strongin our faith.
I'm 43 years old, almost 43years old, and I've got lots of
different stories, as I'm sureanybody else would at my age,
(01:51):
and God has just proven hisfaithfulness and his goodness
Home and time again.
Yeah, I love that and I thinkthe older that we get, the more
that we see how he has been in,like every situation, even when
we maybe didn't see it or feelit at that time.
So absolutely looking back,yeah.
(02:11):
So let me ask you this what isthe reason that you decided to
move from California toTennessee, or how did that kind
of come about?
So the journey to Tennessee waspretty much like 10 years in the
making.
Since you met me, because youknow I'm in Tennessee.
Well, yeah, I'm just kidding.
No, it really.
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It started when Reese waslittle.
So just a little morebackground.
I was born in Nebraska and thenmy family moved to California
and then we moved to Montanawhen I was in first grade.
So we were there for, I think,a year, year and a half, and
then we moved back to Californiaand that's where I had been
until we moved here.
(02:52):
But when Reese was younger, whenshe was probably two or three
years old, we started to reallyhave the desire to move out of
California, just so that wecould give her not necessarily a
better life, but a differentlife, because where we were in
California it wasn't safe forher to play outside.
(03:16):
We were constantly monitoring,you know, stuff that was going
on around the city, and so we,we really had a desire to move
somewhere where we could have,you know, open spaces, a slower
pace, you know, just just togive her those different
experiences that I it's weird tosay a different experience than
(03:39):
I had when I was a kid or orsimilar to what I had as a a kid
, because I didn't grow up inthe country necessarily, but I
just feel like times were sodifferent back then and maybe
things were very similar to whatthey are now.
We just know more about itbecause of social media.
But you know, I spent most ofmy time playing outside with my
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sister and going to friendshouses.
We didn't have video games andI mean we had Nintendo, but you
know there was a lot of stuffthat we didn't know we.
There was a lot of stuff thatkids have access to now that we
I didn't even have till I, youknow, graduated high school.
So we just we ultimately wantedsomething different for her and
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we started, started with theidea of moving to Idaho because
we knew that my parents weregoing to be retiring there and
we figured if we were going tomove out of state we should
probably go somewhere where weknow family or have friends, and
at that time we just were notin a position to really
financially be able to doanything and eventually got
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priced out of it.
Then we moved, or sorry, wedidn't move, obviously.
I guess we moved on to the ideaof moving to Montana because
that has always felt like homefor me, just because of, you
know, the memories and thefamily members that I have over
there.
And of course, the showYellowstone comes out and we get
get priced out of that.
So yeah, so we kind of, we kindof let things go, but we still
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had that desire and we prayedabout it and you know, every
night we would, we would sayprayers, you know, with Reese
before bed, and always on ourlist was you know, god just
opened those doors for us.
That that's if, if you know, ifyou want us to make any kind of
move and just allow it tohappen.
And over the years we hadfriends um move out of state and
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I was always curious to heartheir stories about how you know
, how it happened for them.
And every single one of themjust said you know it, just the
doors opened and things justwent really naturally.
And while I was so excited forthem, I kept wondering why is it
not happening for us?
(05:54):
So, fast forward to 2020, theyear that everybody is just so
fond of reminiscing over.
Reminiscing over, sorry.
In September I started dealingwith some pretty regular
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headaches that were always inthe same spot and no medicine,
nothing I did was touching itand I had to kind of think
outside the box.
And because I've grown up withheadaches, you know this.
I've struggled with migrainesand headaches for a really long
time.
Gianina (06:30):
Yeah.
Kiley (06:30):
And before you know when I would take ibuprofen, it would
knock them out and I would befine.
But these ones were just, theyjust would not go away.
And so I started thinking okay,we're in the middle of a
pandemic.
I went from working partly fromhome to full-time from home
sitting in front of a computer.
Maybe it's eye strain, maybeit's muscle tension, maybe it's
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stress.
So I started going to thechiropractor.
I went to the eye doctor.
I got a new chair for my office.
I was doing everything I couldthink of to try to try to get
these things to go away andnothing really worked.
So I eventually made a call tomy doctor and she said Okay,
let's, let's do some blood workto just make sure there's
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nothing inflammatory going on.
We'll do an MRI, make sureeverything structurally is okay.
And I said Fine, you know, Ihave, I've had MRIs before and
nothing has ever shown up.
So I was just kind of goingwith the flow.
And on November 19th was myfirst MRI scan, and I think it
(07:34):
was the next day.
It might have even been thesame night, I honestly can't
remember.
But my doctor called me and shesaid OK, they, they found a
mass in your left frontal lobeand it's about 1.2 centimeters,
and they want you to have an MRI, with and without contrast, so
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that they know what it is thatthey're dealing with.
She said it is consistent withwhat they call a meningioma,
which is often a benign braintumor.
Usually they're not cancerous.
And so you I'm getting thiscall as we're in our bedroom.
Ryan is taking a nap in the bednext to me and I'm just like I
think I was watching tv orsomething, and so I get this
(08:19):
phone call and as soon as,because they found a math, I
like grabbed his arm and he justwoke up like what's happening
and I just I you know startedtearing up and told them what
was going on.
And so, anyway, have the MRIwith the with and without
contrast, and it confirmed thisis what we're dealing with.
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So I see the neurosurgeon inDecember and I'm at this
appointment by myself and theappointment where I met her
because it was she, she was heroffice was in a hospital, so
during covid, like you couldn'thave anybody with you, it was
just the person for theappointment.
Yeah, and I'm sitting there andshe was.
(09:04):
I want to say she was close totwo hours late for the
appointment, so I'm literallysitting in this room, just not.
Of course, I know that I'd havethis tumor, but I don't know
what she's gonna say.
I don't, I don't know anythingat this point.
And so I'm sitting there bymyself and she comes in and she
(09:24):
kind of rushes it.
I think she was in surgery orsomething, but anyway she.
The first thing she says wasokay, we can have surgery, it's
small enough, it's in a easy youknow spot to get out.
It was literally sitting righton top of my brain and you know
she says it hasn't really.
It doesn't look like it'sattached to anything really.
(09:45):
So you know we could do that.
It's also very reasonable foryou to wait six months and do
another scan and see, you know,if there's been any growth.
Because what she told me withmeningiomas is that they don't
grow linearly.
So they could be the same sizefor years and then have a weird
growth spurt, or they can growconsistently and then stop.
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So you just never know howthey're going to react
consistently and then stop.
So you just never know howthey're going to react.
So I talked to Ryan and theonly two people that we have
known that have gone throughbrain surgery did not come out
of it the same and their brainsurgeries were for different
matters.
They both had glioblastomas.
The tumors were larger andharder to get caught in the
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brain, but that was the onlything we knew.
And so we decided to wait.
And for six months, almost everysingle day, I was thinking
about it what's going on?
What is it doing?
How is it growing?
Every time I had a headache,what is it doing?
How is it growing?
Every time I had a headache,you know, my mind would just
(10:52):
start spinning and I was prayingconstantly like, okay, god,
just take this away from me,just let it miraculously
disappear from the MRIs, becauseI've heard about that happening
before, and it was pray, pray,pray.
And so, six months later, Ihave my scan and I meet with a
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doctor on the day of our 15thwedding anniversary, which was
yay.
A doctor walks in and the firstthing she says is okay, I see
that there's been some growthand.
I just my heart shattered andthankfully my mom was with me
because Ryan couldn't make it tothat appointment.
(11:35):
So while I'm going throughscenarios in my head, she's
asking all the questions and thedoctor said no, we can still
have surgery.
It's still small enough to getout fairly easily.
We could also do radiation, butthere's side effects with that
and it's not 100% guarantee thatyou know it would be taken care
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of completely.
And I said OK, if I decided notto do anything, when would when
would you recommend my nextscan be?
And she said three months.
Scan B and she said threemonths.
So she didn't tell me directly,but I could tell that it was
concerning enough for her towant to monitor it more closely
because it had already grown somuch and you know that six month
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period.
So Ryan and I went away for ouranniversary.
We talked about it that weekendand we came to the conclusion
that you know, it wasn't amatter of if I should have the
surgery, but when, because weobviously wanted to do it when
it was easy enough to get outand not wait too long to where
it would start attaching tothings and get harder to remove.
(12:44):
So I was set up for surgery.
I think it was like two weeks,like it happened really fast and
I had never had surgery before,I had never even been under
anesthesia and I thought part ofone of the funny things, yeah
so Ryan's whole thing has alwaysbeen go big or go home.
So yeah.
(13:05):
I was like okay, well, I'm justgoing from no surgery ever to
having brain surgery, that'sgotta be like terrifying yeah.
Why?
And I got into the pre-op roomagain Ryan couldn't be in there
with me and the nurse.
I remember she was checking myvitals and she said you must be
really nervous.
(13:26):
I said, well, yeah, I mean,this was kind of a big deal.
She says your heart rate is asfast as a child's.
Gianina (13:32):
My goodness.
Kiley (13:33):
Yeah.
So one of the things that wascomforting to me was my
sister-in-law worked at thehospital where I had my surgery
and a friend of hers wasactually a nurse who scrubbed in
on my surgery.
So she came into the pre-oproom and she said oh, I'm
Jennifer's friend, I'm going tobe in your surgery today.
So I was that kind of put me atease a little bit.
(13:54):
My surgeon came in and sheanswered any last minute
questions and I asked her tokind of track the size of the
tumor from when we found it towhat it is now and she said it
had basically grown from thesize of like a pencil eraser to
a grate and that was in a sixmonth period.
(14:16):
So she says we're doing theright thing, we're making the
right decision.
So the anesthesiologist givesme my little cocktail and I
don't even remember making itout of the pre-op room.
Next thing I know I'm waking upin recovery and Ryan's on my
right and the doctor's on theleft.
She said she got it out and wefound out the pathology show
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that it was a grade one benignmeningioma, which is pretty much
like best case scenario.
She actually said if she wereto have anything, that's what
she would want.
So, in my thinking, it was.
You know, while I mean it tookme a little while to process
this, but hindsight is always20-20.
(14:57):
So, when you're thinking aboutthe process of things, I
remember praying for God to takethis away from me and, while it
didn't happen in a way that Ihad imagined, he still took it
away from me by putting me inthe right place with the right
doctors and the right hospitaland the right insurance.
You know, and and I don't knowif you remember me writing about
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this, but, uh, I remember thatparable of the, the neighborhood
that flooded and the, the guywas sitting on top of his roof
and people were coming by to tryto help him and he kept saying,
oh no, thanks, god's gonna takecare of me, god's gonna take
care of me, and, and heeventually drowns.
(15:42):
And when he goes to heaven, hesays God, what happened?
Why didn't you save me?
And he says, well, I sent theboat and I sent the helicopter
and I sent these other people.
But you know, so I just feltlike all of those things were
God's way of rescuing me and andtaking me out of that situation
.
Gianina (16:02):
Yeah.
Kiley (16:03):
So, going back, I promise this ties in to our move to
Tennessee.
This ties in to our move toTennessee.
We had scheduled a trip tovisit Tennessee because our
nieces had moved here and boughthouses and so we it was just
going to be a visit to see themand so we came in August, so two
months after my surgery, and wewere here for 10 days and we
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were able to just kind of drivearound and we, we just fell in
love with the area and so thatstarted the.
You know, that startedTennessee being on our radar of
possible places to move.
So in February we came back forjust like a weekend trip because
it was my birthday, and ourniece told Ryan that there had
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been a posting in the city thathad been open for a year and it
was for an electrical inspectorand he was an electrician in
California.
But he knew that it wasn't ajob that he could necessarily
retire in because it was so hardon his body and you know this
would have been a job that wouldallow him freedom from that.
But you know, also give himgood benefits, good retirement.
And so he he found out whatcertifications he would need.
(17:18):
He took the test, he gotcertified, he interviewed in
March and we put the house upfor sale in April and we were
here in June.
Gianina (17:28):
Once it once it happened.
Kiley (17:30):
It happened, yes, and so well, and I remember this is a
weird piece of information, butI remember he was in the shower
one day and we were talkingabout it over the shower curtain
and he's like, yeah, so let'scontact this person, let's get
our house up for sale.
And I said wait, wait, wait,wait, wait a second, because we
have been talking about this forlike eight years, nine years at
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this time, why.
Now he says I don't know.
I just feel like it's a Godthing, like it's just things are
falling into place.
And it was then what I thoughtback of all of my other friends
who had moved.
It's like, okay, I get it.
So I always think about how wehad been praying for these
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things for so long and it's likeI I genuinely believe that God
wants to, wants to give us thedesires of our hearts and it,
but he, his timing, is perfect.
So it's like if we had, if wehad forced a move before my
diagnosis or my surgery, whoknows how that would have worked
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out.
Gianina (18:35):
Yeah, A different doctor on a different day could
have had a different outcome youknow yes.
Kiley (18:41):
So, and, honestly, the doctor that I had, I originally
had asked my primary like, isthere anybody else that I can
see?
Because I just I didn't reallylike where her office was and
she kind of rushed me in myappointment and my physician she
was like, you know, she's thebest one around, and so I gave
it another go and she hadactually moved offices and it
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was such a different experiencefrom that very first appointment
I had.
And she actually, when we haddecided to have the surgery, she
opened up an hour before shestarted taking other patients,
just so she could go down mylist of questions.
She was fantastic, yeah, yeah.
(19:24):
So, yeah, it was quite awhirlwind and I and I will say a
funny, funny tidbit, I don'tknow if you've ever had an MRI,
um, but there is a, there's aseries or sequence of sounds and
it's very repetitious, butthey're they're all different
and it was during those MRIsthat I felt like and my MRIs
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were, you know, 30-45 minutesjust because of everything that
they needed to do, and I wouldalways be praying during them.
But I would pray in the youknow the pattern, you know like
Lord, take this away from me,lord, take this in the bed and I
would like yeah, but I wouldlike, as people came to my mind,
(20:07):
I would start praying for otherpeople, and so it's kind of odd
that I would.
I met God in the MRI machinesyeah, pretty frequently, that's
so cool.
Gianina (20:17):
That's so cool, though, and I think it's interesting
hearing your perspective on thisnow, because I think when you
were going through it and wewere having conversations about
it, I just remember at that time, when you were sharing, I never
once doubted, I never once wasworried that something bad would
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happen, or like Kiley's notgonna be okay, or what if this
happens, or what if that happens?
Somehow?
It was like God just told meshe's fine, she's gonna be okay,
and so I don't remember everhaving a moment of fear when it
comes to that and I don't knowif it was just because of you
(20:58):
were talking to me or if this ishow you were feeling in the
moment, but I don't remember alot of like.
It didn't seem like fear wasoverwhelming for you in those
moments, and I could be wrong,you know.
Maybe you just like covered itreally well, but I just remember
.
Obviously there were concernsand there were questions and
(21:18):
there was wondering, but I don'tremember a paralyzing fear to
hit you.
Kiley (21:25):
Yeah, I definitely remember being very anxious
about it, but I don't think Iallowed it to control me.
And I think I remember we hadtalked maybe a day or two before
the surgery and I remember yousaid something to me Because one
of my biggest, my biggestconcerns was the left frontal
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lobe is where your personalityis and stuff, and so I was
afraid that I wasn't going to beme afterwards.
And I remember telling you thatI had I also had viral
meningitis in 2008.
And I was hospitalized for likenine days with that.
And you had said I don't evenknow if you remember this, but
you're like it's no wonder why.
(22:05):
Why Satan keeps trying to attackthat part of you because you're
just such a unique and kindperson and he doesn't want good
things for you.
And I just remember thinkinglike, yeah, you're right, and if
that's what he's trying to do,then I know that God's going to
(22:25):
bring me out of this.
Okay, and when we actually,when we told Reese about this,
she knew that I had a, had atumor and we were monitoring it,
but when we told her that Ineeded to have surgery, she was
like, okay, I said, do you haveany questions?
She says no, I was going to takecare of you, you'll be, okay,
and I think it was honestly, Ithink it was, honestly, I think
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it was just I had such anamazing support system around me
that I don't.
I don't think people wereletting me sit in it and be
afraid.
You know, like they would talk.
Wait, they would talk methrough the fear, they would
talk me through the worry and um, and I'm sure my parents were
beside themselves, even thoughthey didn't show it to me in
(23:08):
that moment.
But yeah it was definitely ascary time.
Gianina (23:14):
I think about how beautiful that timing is, even
having that community around you, because if it would have been
after you moved, you may nothave had that immediate
community.
Or even if it would have beenyears before you had a solid
community, it may have been alittle bit harder.
And so, just like God'sfaithfulness in bringing people
(23:36):
around you, that like it's likeeven if he didn't audibly speak
to you he put people around you,that like spoke his truth into
your life and that gave youpeace, like even Reese
Absolutely yeah, yeah.
Kiley (23:50):
And my mom, you know, she was at church one night and
there was a song that she just,I guess, started weeping too,
and it was honestly I can'tremember what it was.
She can tell you, but it hadsomething to do with, like you
know, having an army behind youand she's like they saying this,
and I just immediately thoughtof you and this was God's way of
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telling me that you were goingto be okay.
Gianina (24:14):
Yeah.
Kiley (24:14):
And she had also told me she was in the waiting room with
Ryan and his mom and she waspraying for the angels to
surround me.
And she says at that exactmoment when she said that prayer
, she saw this really superhugely tall nurse walking around
the waiting room, which is likehello god is that one of her
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nurses.
So, yeah, there, there was justa lot, of, a lot of blessings in
that, um, you know, and there'stimes when, like after the
surgery, because I, when I found, when I, when I was diagnosed
with this, I, you know, one ofthe first things people do these
days is join Facebook groups sothat you can, you know, talk
with other people who are goingthrough the same thing.
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There are so many people whoare, who are dealing with with
these things on a daily basisand their symptoms are just I, I
, I, I almost like feel guiltythat I had it so easy, or I
don't know if that's the right,if I want to say it that way.
(25:16):
I don't want to diminishanything that anybody else is
going through, but I'm like, whywas I, you know, so lucky with,
with what I got, versus thisother person who's just dealing
with all of this struggle, andthere are a lot of people that
have said they don't really havemuch of a support system, or
people are downplaying it likeit's not a big deal for them.
(25:38):
And I just felt like I had suchan opposite experience because
I did have so much support.
I knew that, people knew that Iwas scared and they walked me
through it.
I knew that people knew that.
I was scared and they walked methrough it.
Gianina (26:03):
And yeah, I, just I.
I would encourage anybody whois going through that to just
pray about it and pray that adifferent, like health issue or
something that they're dealingwith.
What would you say to them tokind of like help them navigate
through this season?
Kiley (26:18):
I would just I would remind them that God's timing is
everything and, even thoughthere are certain things that
happen to us that we cannotunderstand, is walking with us.
You know, and if you don't havesomebody in your immediate
support that can offer that kindof guidance and support to you,
(26:40):
just keep praying that God willshow you where you do have
support.
I think sometimes people are sofocused on what they can see
and what they have right in thatmoment that they forget to look
to the side and think like, oh,you know what this thing
happened over here, or I do havethis person over here, you know
(27:02):
, and it's hard to like focus onmultiple things and not just
focus on what you don't have.
Yeah, prayer is huge.
Yeah, I, and I I would say, ifyou can, if, if somebody is
going through something, thereis almost 100% of the time there
(27:24):
is somebody else who has gonethrough something very similar.
So I, you know the Facebookgroups.
Sometimes they're great forfinding people like that where
you can connect with them.
Obviously it's social media, soyou know there might not always
be that thing, but like, evenif you just go to a prayer group
at church or try to find peoplethat can sit with you.
(27:46):
You know, just you got to tryto seek it out.
Gianina (27:51):
Yeah, I think if I can say, like you hit it right there
, like you have to seek it out,because, especially when you're
going through something, it'sreally easy Like the enemy will
just put it in your mind Likeyou're alone, nobody's there for
you.
You're the only one that's everdealt with this Like.
This is just you and so it's soimportant to like let people
know if you're scared, letpeople know if you're hurting,
(28:13):
let people know if there'ssomething going on, because I
know for me when I've gonethrough things.
I just kind of assumed peopleknew how I was feeling and just
like blame shifted Like well,nobody's here for me as I'm
going through this situation butreally nobody knew that I
needed somebody, and so it'simportant to reach out to that
(28:34):
community and look at ask God,like literally, you can just ask
him and say who is it thatyou've placed in my life that I
need to reach out to about this?
Like, and if you don't haveanybody, pray that God would
bring those people into yourlife, because he's definitely
faithful to answer that.
Kiley (28:52):
Yeah, well, and I remember that when I shared my
story, there were a couple ofpeople that responded and said,
oh my gosh, I had somethingsimilar.
And, oddly enough, one of myneighbors now she had a
meningioma removed, not in thesame location as mine, but it
was literally like we werewithin months of each other of
(29:13):
having this, and so I found outand we were just able to connect
.
So you never know, unless,unless you do share it.
And then, because I thinksometimes people are reluctant
to share their stories becausethey don't want to, maybe they
don't want to bring attention tothemselves or it's something
that's a little bit like they,they I don't know if they feel
(29:34):
like they want to just deal withit by themselves, but I think
once, once you share your story,you're bound to have people
that will come out and be likehey, yeah, I dealt with that too
and it was really scary.
Yeah, so.
So, and the other thing toremember, too, is if something
is happening in your life thatyou feel is so overwhelming to
(29:56):
you, but you compare it tosomebody else's story, don't,
don't, don't let that be, don'tlet that make you feel afraid to
share your story, because, eventhough it may be different from
somebody else's, it's stillsignificant for you.
So don't downplay what it isthat you're going through just
because you feel like somebodyelse has it worse.
Yeah because it's still like,it's still affecting you and
(30:19):
your life and you.
You need to be able to havepeople that are going to support
you through that.
Gianina (30:24):
Yeah absolutely Well.
Thank you so much for sharingyour heart and your story and I.
It just makes me like that muchmore excited for us to do this
together, because that truly iswhat it's all about like to
share our stories and givepeople hope and to share, show
people that they're not aloneand they have other people that
(30:44):
are walking through this journey.
It's like, yes, the Lord is sofaithful and walking through
this life with us, but he'sgiven us this community and he
has given us each other to dothis with too.
So that's definitely such apowerful thing and you have such
a great testimony of faith andperseverance.
And, literally, I guess what Isaid back in 2020, which I don't
(31:07):
remember, but it's true theenemy is going to try to attack
the parts of us that God has thebiggest purpose in, so just you
know, to stay encouraged inthat.
So thank you so much, and I justwant to encourage anyone who is
listening to that If you'rewalking through this kind of
valley or any kind of valley, Ijust really hope that Kiley's
(31:29):
story encourages you and remindsyou that you're not alone and
God is with you.
We're here with you and I hopethat you have more community
that is here with you as well,and if this episode does
encourage you, we just want toask you to subscribe, leave a
review and share it withsomebody else who you think may
need to hear this, because therejust are so many people and
(31:51):
we're going to have so many morestories to come that I know
people can be encouraged by, andwe're definitely honored that
God would put this podcast onour hearts, where we can share
these things with you and be alight in the world in this way.
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