August 29, 2025 • 30 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:08):
At the Gatherer.
Speaker 2 (00:35):
Fort Laramie.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Fort Laramie, starring Raymond Burr as Captain lee Quins especially
transcribed tales of the dark and tragic ground of the
wild Frontier, the saga of fighting men who rode the
rim of Empire, and the dramatic story of lee Quin's
captain of Cavalry.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
It's from Jim Lack at the Oglala Agency, cap'n.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Asking us to stay away. That's what he usually wants.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
Which time he's asking for help and he's about to
have an uprising on his hands.
Speaker 5 (01:34):
And the way he parcels out the food, the Sioux
haven't got the strength for an uprising here.
Speaker 6 (01:39):
You read it.
Speaker 5 (01:42):
All the troops you can spare, Black must be scared stiff.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
But he doesn't mention what the trouble's about or if
it's started, just that he fears it it will you
better take up a troll down, Katn that all the
troops you can spare major here is until I know
better what the problem is. How long since you sawl.
Speaker 5 (02:05):
Last month when we went up the butcher, the beef
and the agency. He was hovering around like a mother
hen making sure no Indian got a fair share.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
You saw they did, of course.
Speaker 5 (02:13):
Yeah, that's when he ordered us off the agency. I
got no way of knowing that the Indians got to
keep their meat or not, but they had it when
we left.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
He's a hard man to understand. When he first came
out here from the East, remember we both thought he
had a good feeling about his job, he talked a
lot about Indians being human, treating him fair.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
He was saying he's changed, Major las Me, I don't
think so.
Speaker 5 (02:36):
He still talks the same way, pretty much goes back
to what he calls being human.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
He hasn't had much regard for us as human beings
or his wife.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Never seen her.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
I met her when they moved out here. Tall woman.
Sin never says.
Speaker 5 (02:50):
Much, never says innocent anymore when he's around. I don't
think he feeds her any better than he does the sue.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
Well, they're sure high on him in Washington.
Speaker 5 (02:59):
Assure the good boys lax, keeping them in the black,
just firm. Of course, they might feel different about him
if there is a Sioux uprising.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
How soon can you leave Captain an hour good?
Speaker 4 (03:14):
As soon as you get an estimate of the situation,
telegraph me.
Speaker 7 (03:17):
I don't know what you'll find there's.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Something wrong major. Up to now he looked on the
army as just so much interference. Now he's asking for us,
I'd say, lax in real trouble.
Speaker 8 (03:48):
Looks like we've got a delegation of head Sir.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
At least they're waiting for us, not charging out to
meet this.
Speaker 5 (03:54):
It looks like Red there desert through it at the
reservation line. Might be that's as far as he wants
us to go. Red There's not a hostile never has
been patrol.
Speaker 9 (04:08):
Oh, greetings Red there, greetings captain, you do not come
our way in a long time.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
I was here last month.
Speaker 10 (04:27):
You were off hunting, hunting, no good red deer no
longer find good hunting ground.
Speaker 6 (04:36):
Too much white man.
Speaker 10 (04:39):
Sorry to hear that many moons ago you tell red deer,
white men leave reservation to Indian. That's right, Indian to
have fine hunting ground, good lodgers, plenty food now lodgers,
no shelter for squaw. But push all many holes in
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the walls, bring wind and snow against us. No good
foods now, no hunting ground.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Your power with mister lack no.
Speaker 10 (05:17):
Good red deer, go make talk luck he not listened.
If red deer talk lack he take food a way,
make less not good?
Speaker 5 (05:31):
That why you rode out from the agency to meet me.
Read there lack no like army to come. When army
come bad for Indians.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
We've never bothered your red there not you.
Speaker 10 (05:47):
But when army come, lock get mad, when lack mad.
Speaker 6 (05:55):
Bad for Indians?
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Is there new trouble on the age?
Speaker 6 (06:00):
And see no trouble? You sure no trouble? Good.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
I'll suppose you ride back to the agency with us.
Speaker 10 (06:09):
You give hunting grounds back, all right? What's happened to them?
White men take all over? Dig in rocks make big
hole game all run.
Speaker 6 (06:24):
No good hunting.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
My names.
Speaker 6 (06:29):
Digging rock make big.
Speaker 10 (06:31):
Hole sometimes not good for hunting ground No not good?
Speaker 2 (06:37):
All right?
Speaker 5 (06:38):
Read their ride back with us. We'll make power with
mister Lack. No trouble, no trouble then come.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
You heard me.
Speaker 8 (07:06):
I'll go on, get on back to your lodgers. Move now,
I'll cut your right.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
I told red Dear, we'd powerow mister Lack.
Speaker 8 (07:13):
You no right to do that.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
I had the right, and we will powow.
Speaker 8 (07:16):
Well, I want to talk to you first alone.
Speaker 5 (07:18):
All right, Read dear, go to your lodge and see
your braves go to theirs.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
No pow later you have my word, no cut ration,
No then red deer go.
Speaker 8 (07:33):
If you had to deal with them every day, you'd
sing a different tune. Captain quinns, I'd have to live
with them every day to know that you can power
all yourself, half crazy and get nowhere.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
I came at your request.
Speaker 8 (07:44):
I asked for troops, not a patrol.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
If you need troops, you'll get them.
Speaker 8 (07:48):
Come on inside. You never know who's listening around here.
Better have your men stand guard over what over us.
Speaker 5 (07:56):
Well, see, we're free to talk, mister lac all go on,
Oh morning, miss Black.
Speaker 8 (08:12):
Captain Quinn's get on back your kitchen.
Speaker 11 (08:14):
Claire.
Speaker 8 (08:14):
Captain and I have a lot to settle in a hurry.
Speaker 12 (08:17):
Yess, Oh, you'll tell him about it.
Speaker 8 (08:20):
I'll tell him everything, Claire, and not go on. You
can sit if you want to. Yeah, thanks, Well, first
things first, you will telegraph Major Dagger immediately for reinforcements.
I'd say we'll need at least one hundred and fifty men,
full supply of arms and ammunition, and of course whatever
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food the army will require. I can't be expected to
feed the army on agency food. I think the search
you'd begin right away, and after.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
You we want to slow down a little.
Speaker 8 (08:50):
You wait till you've been through it as long as
I have.
Speaker 5 (08:52):
Captain before we move the army from the entire department
of the plat over here. Maybe you ought to tell
us about this upright.
Speaker 8 (09:00):
Mark my words, there'll be one. We don't nip it
in the bud.
Speaker 6 (09:05):
No thanks.
Speaker 8 (09:06):
Now they've been growing sullen without cause, mind you, for
the last few days. I've cut their rations each time
there's been a.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Disturbance, disturbance with kind.
Speaker 8 (09:16):
Oh, delegations, committees, I guess they are. Why every time
I look up, two or three chiefs are waiting on
my front stoop with some new grievance.
Speaker 5 (09:29):
And these grievances they're what you're calling a disturbance, that's.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
What they are. I was thinking more like a demonstration
of some kind.
Speaker 8 (09:38):
I think that's next on their list. Why because of
the guns. Now that they're armed, I say, we can
expect shooting trouble any day. You know they got guns,
of course, I know it. That's why I called for
the army. I want you to disarm them first, and.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
After where they get the guns.
Speaker 8 (09:52):
Oh, Captain, you're the most obstinate man I've ever encountered.
I'm head of this agency. It should be enough for
you that I say they.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
Have gone, But it isn't enough.
Speaker 8 (10:02):
Yes, I can see that.
Speaker 5 (10:03):
When this agency was established, it was agreed that the
braves could keep their guns if they were hunters.
Speaker 8 (10:07):
That was before my time, Captain.
Speaker 5 (10:09):
I'd never have agreed to that, No, but the army
agreed to it, mister lack all right, and you may
as well know I changed all that shortly after I
came here.
Speaker 8 (10:18):
I was quick to see that no good could come
of savages under my control having gun.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
You took them away.
Speaker 8 (10:27):
For disciplinary reason, Jazz, What happened to their hunting? Well,
what hunting they're willing to do? There's lazy's sin you. Oh,
I figured they could do with bows and arrow.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Look the sewer traditional hunters. They're not lazy about it.
Have they got hunting grounds?
Speaker 8 (10:40):
They've got hunting grounds by treaty.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
Red Deer says. The miners scare the game off.
Speaker 8 (10:45):
Hell, I can't keep miners out of here. That's not
my job.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
It's the army's job. We'll run them out.
Speaker 8 (10:50):
I'm not interested in miners. I'm interested in the Indians.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Having guns, oh am.
Speaker 8 (10:54):
I Now, ever since I took them away, I've kept
their guns in one of the supply stores, under lock
and key. You can be sure that yesterday the lock
was broken and the guns were gone.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
They took their own guns back.
Speaker 8 (11:07):
It was yesterday morning I found them gone. That's when
I telegraphed the major. Last evening I found some of
my own rifles gone. Now I say they're spoiling for
something happening.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Might be your right, mister and All.
Speaker 8 (11:19):
I'm right, and I don't mind telling you. It frightens me.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
It should.
Speaker 8 (11:26):
I've always been able to handle agency affairs by himself.
I've done a good job of it too for do
say so. But when savager start arming against me, I
don't mind admitting I need help.
Speaker 5 (11:37):
I'll start a search going for the guns right away,
mister Lac. Good, but you better get some ideas about
helping yourself too. Well in what way and the way
you look on humanity, mister Lac, agency indians got the
right to enough food, proper living quarters and hunting grounds.
Speaker 8 (11:54):
I abide by the letter Captain.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
We'll start our search, see what we come up with.
Speaker 8 (12:00):
Naturally. I want to help you anyway I can. That'd
be by staying right here, mister Lack.
Speaker 5 (12:05):
Let us do the search in our way.
Speaker 13 (12:17):
Mister Lac said that store building there, next to the
laundry was where the guns was kept.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Captain, did you speak to Red deer sergeant?
Speaker 11 (12:24):
He said he'd meet us here, Good Captain.
Speaker 13 (12:27):
I don't know quite how to say this, but I
don't just warm the searching engines for guns that are
rightly theirs.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Not all of them are rightly there. Some of them
belong to mister Lack. Is the building, Yes.
Speaker 6 (12:41):
Sir, what you're doing here, white captain? He will say, no,
bother white.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Squawk, something wrong, missus Lack.
Speaker 12 (12:53):
Red deer just started me, Captain Quince, I didn't hear
him come in, and then suddenly there he was.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
We asked him to meet us here, man.
Speaker 6 (13:00):
Yes, so he said, red deer, no bother white scowl.
Speaker 12 (13:05):
No, No, of course he didn't. I'm just edgy, Captain.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
We all are.
Speaker 12 (13:09):
And how I've just never got used to their moccasins.
You can't hear them, you know, you just can't hear
them at all.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
If you've got business here, man, we won't bother.
Speaker 11 (13:18):
You, not at all.
Speaker 12 (13:19):
I was just looking for some soap. I thought we'd
stored the surplus here. I guess we've used it all.
Mister Lac keeps a very close check on supplies, you know.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
I'll bet he does.
Speaker 12 (13:29):
Yes, well, i'll go now.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
Oh, ma'am, Yes, Captain, I was wondering. Is this supply
store kept open as a rule? Anybody can come and go?
Oh need not.
Speaker 12 (13:43):
No, No, mister Lac keeps it bolded at all times.
He and I have the only keys.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Then you unlocked it just now before we came.
Speaker 12 (13:50):
Yes, that's how Red Deer got in without my hearing him.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
Thank you, ma'am, Thank you very much.
Speaker 12 (13:55):
I'll see it's locked immediately you're finished, Captain, Yes, ma'am.
Speaker 5 (14:07):
This cabinet, read Deer, This were lack capture guns not no.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
Locksman spliced clean sergeant.
Speaker 11 (14:23):
Real clean cabin hatchet, maybe.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Pretty good sized cabinet.
Speaker 10 (14:30):
How many guns did it hold, Red Deer not no,
Red Deer not know about guns.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
They were your own guns once. Maybe you figured you
had the right to them.
Speaker 10 (14:43):
Many rights once belonged to Red Deer and people.
Speaker 6 (14:48):
No more.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
You hate lack, don't you?
Speaker 6 (14:50):
Red Deer?
Speaker 10 (14:51):
Red deer, come make power with captain. Captains say, talk
about hunting grounds, not guns. Not hate, but you do
hate him, not like Luck, give Indian bad lodge? Not
much good? No no good hunting hate, yes, hate enough
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to want to kill him, maybe kulle Red deer not
need gun to kill Luck.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
Oh you wouldn't, would you? Hell if you didn't take
the guns yourself? Read dear, you know who took them?
Speaker 10 (15:32):
Many questions from captain.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
No poo.
Speaker 5 (15:36):
We don't want to search your lodgers, but we will
if we have to. You understand, we'll go through every
stick of building on this agency to find those guns
unless your people give them up of their own will,
Red dear not no boating gun, Red deer, Red dear,
Listen to me. We're going to try to do our
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best for you about the food and yourly, and we'll
drive the miners off.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
You're hunting grounds, but you've got to help us too.
And you go to your people tell them to give
up these guns or we'll come looking for them.
Speaker 10 (16:12):
How much time till tomorrow morning? White soldiers camp on
agency tonight. Yes, we'll have to Red deer go to people,
make talk. If fine guns bring to Captain, stack them
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in front of your lodgers. If do this, Captain, not
take bubbles from Indian?
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Now, where'd you get an idea like that?
Speaker 6 (16:43):
Red deer? Go to people?
Speaker 11 (16:48):
Now, who's going to take their kids from them?
Speaker 2 (16:51):
Nobody? But I'll sure find out who threatened it.
Speaker 8 (16:54):
Ah, that kind of question doesn't deserve an answer, Captain.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
And I'm still asking it.
Speaker 8 (17:14):
Take their papoosas away? Why what intarnation would I do
with their mangy keys?
Speaker 2 (17:20):
The point is they got the idea you mean to
take them or not?
Speaker 8 (17:23):
For me, they didn't.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
I'd steal guns too. Have I got that kind of threat?
Speaker 8 (17:27):
But what kind of man do you think I am?
Speaker 5 (17:33):
I've had a look around today, lock, I've seen what
they live in, seen what they eat.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
I know what kind of man you are. I do
my job.
Speaker 8 (17:43):
I keep endings in their place. I run an agency
with a strong hand because that's the only thing they
can understand. But I've never told them I intended to
take their children. Now you can believe that or notf.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
Got all the food stuff locked up tight. Now have you.
Speaker 6 (17:58):
All of it?
Speaker 8 (17:59):
You can go around exchanging on their pledgures with them
if you want a Captain, give them your word on
this and that, but I keep their food for them,
and that's something they understand.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
You're wrong, Lack. No man understands starvation.
Speaker 8 (18:15):
I'll shay good night to you, captain, and sleep well,
mister Lack.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
Captain, mister Sabbits, we kept our eye on the lodges
until sundowns.
Speaker 11 (18:38):
There no sign of the guns.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
They haven't till morning.
Speaker 11 (18:42):
I hope they give them up voluntarily. So well, if
you don't need me anymore, I guess I'll turn in.
Speaker 5 (18:47):
Said get a good night's sleep, mister Sabbats. Tomorrow stends
a chance of being.
Speaker 7 (18:53):
Quite a day around here.
Speaker 6 (18:54):
I know.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
Night night, mister Sabbaths.
Speaker 14 (19:02):
Uh, well we here, Captain's Lack.
Speaker 12 (19:14):
I hope the pebble didn't startle you. I wanted to
get your attention.
Speaker 7 (19:19):
You got it, ma'am.
Speaker 12 (19:21):
I think we can talk better in the supply store.
Mister Lack knew i'd come to you, he'd please, Captain.
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We don't dare light the lamp.
Speaker 7 (19:45):
Whatever you say, man.
Speaker 12 (19:47):
I'm so much to blame, Captain. I want you to know.
I know that now, but at first I thought it
was only right after so much wrong, Captain, I thought,
and mister Lack not easy to talk to, who's never easy.
Speaker 5 (20:03):
Whatever you did, missus Lack, I can believe you thought
it was right.
Speaker 12 (20:08):
That's kind, that's kind. I'm not good with talk. I
think a lot, but I never say, I never dare say.
Mister Lack isn't one to listen. I guess I didn't
make the Indians understand me very well. Well did you
tell them about the school? Just the women? Of course,
the squaws. They're all I see really in the laundry mostly.
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Mister Lack never comes there, and sometimes.
Speaker 7 (20:34):
We talk about the school.
Speaker 12 (20:37):
I thought if they couldn't see any hope for themselves here,
that it would mean something to think their children would
have a better chance. I told him maybe we could start.
Speaker 7 (20:47):
A school, and they took it. You meant to take
their kids from 'em?
Speaker 12 (20:52):
I guess I just didn't say it very well.
Speaker 7 (20:55):
It was after that they took the guns.
Speaker 12 (20:58):
Yes, it's a terrible thing I've done, Captain.
Speaker 7 (21:02):
Some terrible things have been done here, ma'am. But what
you tried to do was a fine thing.
Speaker 12 (21:11):
Children. They're a mother's full hope. A woman'll bear anything
knowing her young will have it better and easier, and
I don't know what's possessed me speaking so free?
Speaker 2 (21:24):
Nothing wrong with speaking free.
Speaker 12 (21:27):
I'm a childless woman. Captain, I've not the right. I'd
best get back to my quarters now. I wanted you
to know. Will it help yo're known?
Speaker 7 (21:38):
I think it will, Missus Lack, I'm much obliged.
Speaker 5 (21:43):
Ah, I don't see the guns, Red Deer, No guns, Captain,
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you've had time to talk to your people.
Speaker 6 (22:09):
No gun.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
I asked for your help, read deer. Is this your answer?
Speaker 5 (22:17):
Can do nothing, mister Sabots, Yes, sir, he will direct
the search of all lodges, all buildings housing Indians. Yes, sir,
I'm starting the search with your lodge, Red Deer. Will
you lead me to it?
Speaker 10 (22:28):
Squaw in large, I won't bother her.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
How is near the other?
Speaker 8 (22:36):
Captain?
Speaker 2 (22:37):
You find something, Sergeant.
Speaker 6 (22:40):
No, sir.
Speaker 11 (22:42):
Back to the matter. Is we lost something?
Speaker 2 (22:45):
Now? What's that?
Speaker 11 (22:46):
Miller and kinkaid?
Speaker 6 (22:47):
Captain?
Speaker 13 (22:47):
They was too sheepish to speak out till now. During
the night their rifles was took Red Deer.
Speaker 10 (22:53):
You look, Captain, you no fines?
Speaker 2 (23:18):
What's this?
Speaker 6 (23:19):
Belong to? School? Soap for papoos? Learn from white squore?
Missus Lak white squaw. Keep all things very clean, my squore.
She learned from her.
Speaker 5 (23:34):
Your papoose could learn from her too, if you'd let
her start at school.
Speaker 10 (23:38):
Nor take papoos from Ludge.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
You want him to grow up scared, hating the way
you do use your head, Red Dear, A school in
this agency might make a lot of things.
Speaker 6 (23:49):
Better. Not take poppoose from Luge.
Speaker 5 (23:52):
We'll have a lot of talking to do later, big powow,
Red men, white men, settle many things?
Speaker 6 (23:57):
Will you take soap here?
Speaker 5 (24:01):
But your squad took it, didn't she from the supply
store by the laundry?
Speaker 6 (24:06):
No?
Speaker 2 (24:07):
Maybe she took the guns too.
Speaker 6 (24:08):
You find no gun, Captain.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
I will see about that. You're not lying around here anyway.
Come on, all.
Speaker 6 (24:24):
People sticking from lodgers.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
Why we're gonna find those guns? Red deer, red.
Speaker 8 (24:31):
Deer, some sort of privileged characters, he captain, he'll stand
search and due time, mister Lack, you will conduct the
search yourself, Captain. Of course, I'll walk right along with you.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
All right, you walk along with me, But save you're
talking for the Indian Commission. Major Dagger will be sending
one over as soon as he gets my report. Captain,
you'd have my job, You bet I would, mister lac.
You'll walk with us, red deer.
Speaker 6 (25:00):
H m, This running bird.
Speaker 15 (25:10):
Uh huh, This many rivers mm hmmm.
Speaker 6 (25:38):
This squaw over locking.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
Mm hmmm. Sergeant, Yes, sir, sergeant walked toward us along
that line. Take a good.
Speaker 8 (25:54):
Look, yes, sir, h what is it, captain?
Speaker 2 (25:58):
You didn't see, mister, I saw nothing.
Speaker 11 (26:10):
Well, Captain, it took quite a little doing on their part.
Speaker 5 (26:15):
Yeah, a lot of doings, sergeant. Go on, mister lack,
look again, look close this time the beads. The squaws
are wearing their shells, cartridges. The old men are leaning
on canes, only their gun barrels. The kids got arrowheads
hanging from their belts, and right along with them gunlocks, hammers.
Speaker 8 (26:37):
You mean they took the guns apart, they're.
Speaker 5 (26:40):
Wearing them, and if you're a smart lack, you'll ask
to get relieved from your job before they put them
back together.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
Fort Laramie is produced and directed by Norman McDonald and
stars Raymond Burr as lee Quin's captain of cavalry, with
Vic Perrin as Sergeant Gorse. The script was specially written
for Fort Laramie by Kathleen Hit with sound patterns by
Bill James and Tom Henley, musical supervision by Amerigo Marino.
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Featured in the cast were Joseph Kernes, John Dayner, and
viv Janas. Jack Moyles is Major Daggett and Harry Bartel
is Lieutenant Sibert's.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
Company. Tension Dismiss.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
Next week, another transcribed story of the Northwest Frontier and
the troopers who fought under Lee Quinn's Captain of Cavalry.
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Speaker 2 (00:35):
Fort Laramie.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Fort Laramie, starring Raymond Burr as Captain lee Quins especially
transcribed tales of the dark and tragic ground of the
wild Frontier, the saga of fighting men who rode the
rim of Empire, and the dramatic story of lee Quin's
captain of Cavalry.
Speaker 4 (01:24):
It's from Jim Lack at the Oglala Agency, cap'n.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Asking us to stay away. That's what he usually wants.
Speaker 4 (01:30):
Which time he's asking for help and he's about to
have an uprising on his hands.
Speaker 5 (01:34):
And the way he parcels out the food, the Sioux
haven't got the strength for an uprising here.
Speaker 6 (01:39):
You read it.
Speaker 5 (01:42):
All the troops you can spare, Black must be scared stiff.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
But he doesn't mention what the trouble's about or if
it's started, just that he fears it it will you
better take up a troll down, Katn that all the
troops you can spare major here is until I know
better what the problem is. How long since you sawl.
Speaker 5 (02:05):
Last month when we went up the butcher, the beef
and the agency. He was hovering around like a mother
hen making sure no Indian got a fair share.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
You saw they did, of course.
Speaker 5 (02:13):
Yeah, that's when he ordered us off the agency. I
got no way of knowing that the Indians got to
keep their meat or not, but they had it when
we left.
Speaker 4 (02:21):
He's a hard man to understand. When he first came
out here from the East, remember we both thought he
had a good feeling about his job, he talked a
lot about Indians being human, treating him fair.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
He was saying he's changed, Major las Me, I don't
think so.
Speaker 5 (02:36):
He still talks the same way, pretty much goes back
to what he calls being human.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
He hasn't had much regard for us as human beings
or his wife.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Never seen her.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
I met her when they moved out here. Tall woman.
Sin never says.
Speaker 5 (02:50):
Much, never says innocent anymore when he's around. I don't
think he feeds her any better than he does the sue.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
Well, they're sure high on him in Washington.
Speaker 5 (02:59):
Assure the good boys lax, keeping them in the black,
just firm. Of course, they might feel different about him
if there is a Sioux uprising.
Speaker 2 (03:10):
How soon can you leave Captain an hour good?
Speaker 4 (03:14):
As soon as you get an estimate of the situation,
telegraph me.
Speaker 7 (03:17):
I don't know what you'll find there's.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Something wrong major. Up to now he looked on the
army as just so much interference. Now he's asking for us,
I'd say, lax in real trouble.
Speaker 8 (03:48):
Looks like we've got a delegation of head Sir.
Speaker 2 (03:50):
At least they're waiting for us, not charging out to
meet this.
Speaker 5 (03:54):
It looks like Red there desert through it at the
reservation line. Might be that's as far as he wants
us to go. Red There's not a hostile never has
been patrol.
Speaker 9 (04:08):
Oh, greetings Red there, greetings captain, you do not come
our way in a long time.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
I was here last month.
Speaker 10 (04:27):
You were off hunting, hunting, no good red deer no
longer find good hunting ground.
Speaker 6 (04:36):
Too much white man.
Speaker 10 (04:39):
Sorry to hear that many moons ago you tell red deer,
white men leave reservation to Indian. That's right, Indian to
have fine hunting ground, good lodgers, plenty food now lodgers,
no shelter for squaw. But push all many holes in
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the walls, bring wind and snow against us. No good
foods now, no hunting ground.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
Your power with mister lack no.
Speaker 10 (05:17):
Good red deer, go make talk luck he not listened.
If red deer talk lack he take food a way,
make less not good?
Speaker 5 (05:31):
That why you rode out from the agency to meet me.
Read there lack no like army to come. When army
come bad for Indians.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
We've never bothered your red there not you.
Speaker 10 (05:47):
But when army come, lock get mad, when lack mad.
Speaker 6 (05:55):
Bad for Indians?
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Is there new trouble on the age?
Speaker 6 (06:00):
And see no trouble? You sure no trouble? Good.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
I'll suppose you ride back to the agency with us.
Speaker 10 (06:09):
You give hunting grounds back, all right? What's happened to them?
White men take all over? Dig in rocks make big
hole game all run.
Speaker 6 (06:24):
No good hunting.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
My names.
Speaker 6 (06:29):
Digging rock make big.
Speaker 10 (06:31):
Hole sometimes not good for hunting ground No not good?
Speaker 2 (06:37):
All right?
Speaker 5 (06:38):
Read their ride back with us. We'll make power with
mister Lack. No trouble, no trouble then come.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
You heard me.
Speaker 8 (07:06):
I'll go on, get on back to your lodgers. Move now,
I'll cut your right.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
I told red Dear, we'd powerow mister Lack.
Speaker 8 (07:13):
You no right to do that.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
I had the right, and we will powow.
Speaker 8 (07:16):
Well, I want to talk to you first alone.
Speaker 5 (07:18):
All right, Read dear, go to your lodge and see
your braves go to theirs.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
No pow later you have my word, no cut ration,
No then red deer go.
Speaker 8 (07:33):
If you had to deal with them every day, you'd
sing a different tune. Captain quinns, I'd have to live
with them every day to know that you can power
all yourself, half crazy and get nowhere.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
I came at your request.
Speaker 8 (07:44):
I asked for troops, not a patrol.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
If you need troops, you'll get them.
Speaker 8 (07:48):
Come on inside. You never know who's listening around here.
Better have your men stand guard over what over us.
Speaker 5 (07:56):
Well, see, we're free to talk, mister lac all go on,
Oh morning, miss Black.
Speaker 8 (08:12):
Captain Quinn's get on back your kitchen.
Speaker 11 (08:14):
Claire.
Speaker 8 (08:14):
Captain and I have a lot to settle in a hurry.
Speaker 12 (08:17):
Yess, Oh, you'll tell him about it.
Speaker 8 (08:20):
I'll tell him everything, Claire, and not go on. You
can sit if you want to. Yeah, thanks, Well, first
things first, you will telegraph Major Dagger immediately for reinforcements.
I'd say we'll need at least one hundred and fifty men,
full supply of arms and ammunition, and of course whatever
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food the army will require. I can't be expected to
feed the army on agency food. I think the search
you'd begin right away, and after.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
You we want to slow down a little.
Speaker 8 (08:50):
You wait till you've been through it as long as
I have.
Speaker 5 (08:52):
Captain before we move the army from the entire department
of the plat over here. Maybe you ought to tell
us about this upright.
Speaker 8 (09:00):
Mark my words, there'll be one. We don't nip it
in the bud.
Speaker 6 (09:05):
No thanks.
Speaker 8 (09:06):
Now they've been growing sullen without cause, mind you, for
the last few days. I've cut their rations each time
there's been a.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Disturbance, disturbance with kind.
Speaker 8 (09:16):
Oh, delegations, committees, I guess they are. Why every time
I look up, two or three chiefs are waiting on
my front stoop with some new grievance.
Speaker 5 (09:29):
And these grievances they're what you're calling a disturbance, that's.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
What they are. I was thinking more like a demonstration
of some kind.
Speaker 8 (09:38):
I think that's next on their list. Why because of
the guns. Now that they're armed, I say, we can
expect shooting trouble any day. You know they got guns,
of course, I know it. That's why I called for
the army. I want you to disarm them first, and.
Speaker 2 (09:51):
After where they get the guns.
Speaker 8 (09:52):
Oh, Captain, you're the most obstinate man I've ever encountered.
I'm head of this agency. It should be enough for
you that I say they.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
Have gone, But it isn't enough.
Speaker 8 (10:02):
Yes, I can see that.
Speaker 5 (10:03):
When this agency was established, it was agreed that the
braves could keep their guns if they were hunters.
Speaker 8 (10:07):
That was before my time, Captain.
Speaker 5 (10:09):
I'd never have agreed to that, No, but the army
agreed to it, mister lack all right, and you may
as well know I changed all that shortly after I
came here.
Speaker 8 (10:18):
I was quick to see that no good could come
of savages under my control having gun.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
You took them away.
Speaker 8 (10:27):
For disciplinary reason, Jazz, What happened to their hunting? Well,
what hunting they're willing to do? There's lazy's sin you. Oh,
I figured they could do with bows and arrow.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Look the sewer traditional hunters. They're not lazy about it.
Have they got hunting grounds?
Speaker 8 (10:40):
They've got hunting grounds by treaty.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
Red Deer says. The miners scare the game off.
Speaker 8 (10:45):
Hell, I can't keep miners out of here. That's not
my job.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
It's the army's job. We'll run them out.
Speaker 8 (10:50):
I'm not interested in miners. I'm interested in the Indians.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Having guns, oh am.
Speaker 8 (10:54):
I Now, ever since I took them away, I've kept
their guns in one of the supply stores, under lock
and key. You can be sure that yesterday the lock
was broken and the guns were gone.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
They took their own guns back.
Speaker 8 (11:07):
It was yesterday morning I found them gone. That's when
I telegraphed the major. Last evening I found some of
my own rifles gone. Now I say they're spoiling for
something happening.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Might be your right, mister and All.
Speaker 8 (11:19):
I'm right, and I don't mind telling you. It frightens me.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
It should.
Speaker 8 (11:26):
I've always been able to handle agency affairs by himself.
I've done a good job of it too for do
say so. But when savager start arming against me, I
don't mind admitting I need help.
Speaker 5 (11:37):
I'll start a search going for the guns right away,
mister Lac. Good, but you better get some ideas about
helping yourself too. Well in what way and the way
you look on humanity, mister Lac, agency indians got the
right to enough food, proper living quarters and hunting grounds.
Speaker 8 (11:54):
I abide by the letter Captain.
Speaker 2 (11:56):
We'll start our search, see what we come up with.
Speaker 8 (12:00):
Naturally. I want to help you anyway I can. That'd
be by staying right here, mister Lack.
Speaker 5 (12:05):
Let us do the search in our way.
Speaker 13 (12:17):
Mister Lac said that store building there, next to the
laundry was where the guns was kept.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Captain, did you speak to Red deer sergeant?
Speaker 11 (12:24):
He said he'd meet us here, Good Captain.
Speaker 13 (12:27):
I don't know quite how to say this, but I
don't just warm the searching engines for guns that are
rightly theirs.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Not all of them are rightly there. Some of them
belong to mister Lack. Is the building, Yes.
Speaker 6 (12:41):
Sir, what you're doing here, white captain? He will say, no,
bother white.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Squawk, something wrong, missus Lack.
Speaker 12 (12:53):
Red deer just started me, Captain Quince, I didn't hear
him come in, and then suddenly there he was.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
We asked him to meet us here, man.
Speaker 6 (13:00):
Yes, so he said, red deer, no bother white scowl.
Speaker 12 (13:05):
No, No, of course he didn't. I'm just edgy, Captain.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
We all are.
Speaker 12 (13:09):
And how I've just never got used to their moccasins.
You can't hear them, you know, you just can't hear
them at all.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
If you've got business here, man, we won't bother.
Speaker 11 (13:18):
You, not at all.
Speaker 12 (13:19):
I was just looking for some soap. I thought we'd
stored the surplus here. I guess we've used it all.
Mister Lac keeps a very close check on supplies, you know.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
I'll bet he does.
Speaker 12 (13:29):
Yes, well, i'll go now.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
Oh, ma'am, Yes, Captain, I was wondering. Is this supply
store kept open as a rule? Anybody can come and go?
Oh need not.
Speaker 12 (13:43):
No, No, mister Lac keeps it bolded at all times.
He and I have the only keys.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
Then you unlocked it just now before we came.
Speaker 12 (13:50):
Yes, that's how Red Deer got in without my hearing him.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
Thank you, ma'am, Thank you very much.
Speaker 12 (13:55):
I'll see it's locked immediately you're finished, Captain, Yes, ma'am.
Speaker 5 (14:07):
This cabinet, read Deer, This were lack capture guns not no.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
Locksman spliced clean sergeant.
Speaker 11 (14:23):
Real clean cabin hatchet, maybe.
Speaker 2 (14:27):
Pretty good sized cabinet.
Speaker 10 (14:30):
How many guns did it hold, Red Deer not no,
Red Deer not know about guns.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
They were your own guns once. Maybe you figured you
had the right to them.
Speaker 10 (14:43):
Many rights once belonged to Red Deer and people.
Speaker 6 (14:48):
No more.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
You hate lack, don't you?
Speaker 6 (14:50):
Red Deer?
Speaker 10 (14:51):
Red deer, come make power with captain. Captains say, talk
about hunting grounds, not guns. Not hate, but you do
hate him, not like Luck, give Indian bad lodge? Not
much good? No no good hunting hate, yes, hate enough
(15:16):
to want to kill him, maybe kulle Red deer not
need gun to kill Luck.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
Oh you wouldn't, would you? Hell if you didn't take
the guns yourself? Read dear, you know who took them?
Speaker 10 (15:32):
Many questions from captain.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
No poo.
Speaker 5 (15:36):
We don't want to search your lodgers, but we will
if we have to. You understand, we'll go through every
stick of building on this agency to find those guns
unless your people give them up of their own will,
Red dear not no boating gun, Red deer, Red dear,
Listen to me. We're going to try to do our
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best for you about the food and yourly, and we'll
drive the miners off.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
You're hunting grounds, but you've got to help us too.
And you go to your people tell them to give
up these guns or we'll come looking for them.
Speaker 10 (16:12):
How much time till tomorrow morning? White soldiers camp on
agency tonight. Yes, we'll have to Red deer go to people,
make talk. If fine guns bring to Captain, stack them
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in front of your lodgers. If do this, Captain, not
take bubbles from Indian?
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Now, where'd you get an idea like that?
Speaker 6 (16:43):
Red deer? Go to people?
Speaker 11 (16:48):
Now, who's going to take their kids from them?
Speaker 2 (16:51):
Nobody? But I'll sure find out who threatened it.
Speaker 8 (16:54):
Ah, that kind of question doesn't deserve an answer, Captain.
Speaker 2 (17:13):
And I'm still asking it.
Speaker 8 (17:14):
Take their papoosas away? Why what intarnation would I do
with their mangy keys?
Speaker 2 (17:20):
The point is they got the idea you mean to
take them or not?
Speaker 8 (17:23):
For me, they didn't.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
I'd steal guns too. Have I got that kind of threat?
Speaker 8 (17:27):
But what kind of man do you think I am?
Speaker 5 (17:33):
I've had a look around today, lock, I've seen what
they live in, seen what they eat.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
I know what kind of man you are. I do
my job.
Speaker 8 (17:43):
I keep endings in their place. I run an agency
with a strong hand because that's the only thing they
can understand. But I've never told them I intended to
take their children. Now you can believe that or notf.
Speaker 2 (17:54):
Got all the food stuff locked up tight. Now have you.
Speaker 6 (17:58):
All of it?
Speaker 8 (17:59):
You can go around exchanging on their pledgures with them
if you want a Captain, give them your word on
this and that, but I keep their food for them,
and that's something they understand.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
You're wrong, Lack. No man understands starvation.
Speaker 8 (18:15):
I'll shay good night to you, captain, and sleep well,
mister Lack.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
Captain, mister Sabbits, we kept our eye on the lodges
until sundowns.
Speaker 11 (18:38):
There no sign of the guns.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
They haven't till morning.
Speaker 11 (18:42):
I hope they give them up voluntarily. So well, if
you don't need me anymore, I guess I'll turn in.
Speaker 5 (18:47):
Said get a good night's sleep, mister Sabbats. Tomorrow stends
a chance of being.
Speaker 7 (18:53):
Quite a day around here.
Speaker 6 (18:54):
I know.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
Night night, mister Sabbaths.
Speaker 14 (19:02):
Uh, well we here, Captain's Lack.
Speaker 12 (19:14):
I hope the pebble didn't startle you. I wanted to
get your attention.
Speaker 7 (19:19):
You got it, ma'am.
Speaker 12 (19:21):
I think we can talk better in the supply store.
Mister Lack knew i'd come to you, he'd please, Captain.
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We don't dare light the lamp.
Speaker 7 (19:45):
Whatever you say, man.
Speaker 12 (19:47):
I'm so much to blame, Captain. I want you to know.
I know that now, but at first I thought it
was only right after so much wrong, Captain, I thought,
and mister Lack not easy to talk to, who's never easy.
Speaker 5 (20:03):
Whatever you did, missus Lack, I can believe you thought
it was right.
Speaker 12 (20:08):
That's kind, that's kind. I'm not good with talk. I
think a lot, but I never say, I never dare say.
Mister Lack isn't one to listen. I guess I didn't
make the Indians understand me very well. Well did you
tell them about the school? Just the women? Of course,
the squaws. They're all I see really in the laundry mostly.
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Mister Lack never comes there, and sometimes.
Speaker 7 (20:34):
We talk about the school.
Speaker 12 (20:37):
I thought if they couldn't see any hope for themselves here,
that it would mean something to think their children would
have a better chance. I told him maybe we could start.
Speaker 7 (20:47):
A school, and they took it. You meant to take
their kids from 'em?
Speaker 12 (20:52):
I guess I just didn't say it very well.
Speaker 7 (20:55):
It was after that they took the guns.
Speaker 12 (20:58):
Yes, it's a terrible thing I've done, Captain.
Speaker 7 (21:02):
Some terrible things have been done here, ma'am. But what
you tried to do was a fine thing.
Speaker 12 (21:11):
Children. They're a mother's full hope. A woman'll bear anything
knowing her young will have it better and easier, and
I don't know what's possessed me speaking so free?
Speaker 2 (21:24):
Nothing wrong with speaking free.
Speaker 12 (21:27):
I'm a childless woman. Captain, I've not the right. I'd
best get back to my quarters now. I wanted you
to know. Will it help yo're known?
Speaker 7 (21:38):
I think it will, Missus Lack, I'm much obliged.
Speaker 5 (21:43):
Ah, I don't see the guns, Red Deer, No guns, Captain,
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you've had time to talk to your people.
Speaker 6 (22:09):
No gun.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
I asked for your help, read deer. Is this your answer?
Speaker 5 (22:17):
Can do nothing, mister Sabots, Yes, sir, he will direct
the search of all lodges, all buildings housing Indians. Yes, sir,
I'm starting the search with your lodge, Red Deer. Will
you lead me to it?
Speaker 10 (22:28):
Squaw in large, I won't bother her.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
How is near the other?
Speaker 8 (22:36):
Captain?
Speaker 2 (22:37):
You find something, Sergeant.
Speaker 6 (22:40):
No, sir.
Speaker 11 (22:42):
Back to the matter. Is we lost something?
Speaker 2 (22:45):
Now? What's that?
Speaker 11 (22:46):
Miller and kinkaid?
Speaker 6 (22:47):
Captain?
Speaker 13 (22:47):
They was too sheepish to speak out till now. During
the night their rifles was took Red Deer.
Speaker 10 (22:53):
You look, Captain, you no fines?
Speaker 2 (23:18):
What's this?
Speaker 6 (23:19):
Belong to? School? Soap for papoos? Learn from white squore?
Missus Lak white squaw. Keep all things very clean, my squore.
She learned from her.
Speaker 5 (23:34):
Your papoose could learn from her too, if you'd let
her start at school.
Speaker 10 (23:38):
Nor take papoos from Ludge.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
You want him to grow up scared, hating the way
you do use your head, Red Dear, A school in
this agency might make a lot of things.
Speaker 6 (23:49):
Better. Not take poppoose from Luge.
Speaker 5 (23:52):
We'll have a lot of talking to do later, big powow,
Red men, white men, settle many things?
Speaker 6 (23:57):
Will you take soap here?
Speaker 5 (24:01):
But your squad took it, didn't she from the supply
store by the laundry?
Speaker 6 (24:06):
No?
Speaker 2 (24:07):
Maybe she took the guns too.
Speaker 6 (24:08):
You find no gun, Captain.
Speaker 2 (24:11):
I will see about that. You're not lying around here anyway.
Come on, all.
Speaker 6 (24:24):
People sticking from lodgers.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
Why we're gonna find those guns? Red deer, red.
Speaker 8 (24:31):
Deer, some sort of privileged characters, he captain, he'll stand
search and due time, mister Lack, you will conduct the
search yourself, Captain. Of course, I'll walk right along with you.
Speaker 2 (24:42):
All right, you walk along with me, But save you're
talking for the Indian Commission. Major Dagger will be sending
one over as soon as he gets my report. Captain,
you'd have my job, You bet I would, mister lac.
You'll walk with us, red deer.
Speaker 6 (25:00):
H m, This running bird.
Speaker 15 (25:10):
Uh huh, This many rivers mm hmmm.
Speaker 6 (25:38):
This squaw over locking.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
Mm hmmm. Sergeant, Yes, sir, sergeant walked toward us along
that line. Take a good.
Speaker 8 (25:54):
Look, yes, sir, h what is it, captain?
Speaker 2 (25:58):
You didn't see, mister, I saw nothing.
Speaker 11 (26:10):
Well, Captain, it took quite a little doing on their part.
Speaker 5 (26:15):
Yeah, a lot of doings, sergeant. Go on, mister lack,
look again, look close this time the beads. The squaws
are wearing their shells, cartridges. The old men are leaning
on canes, only their gun barrels. The kids got arrowheads
hanging from their belts, and right along with them gunlocks, hammers.
Speaker 8 (26:37):
You mean they took the guns apart, they're.
Speaker 5 (26:40):
Wearing them, and if you're a smart lack, you'll ask
to get relieved from your job before they put them
back together.
Speaker 3 (27:08):
Fort Laramie is produced and directed by Norman McDonald and
stars Raymond Burr as lee Quin's captain of cavalry, with
Vic Perrin as Sergeant Gorse. The script was specially written
for Fort Laramie by Kathleen Hit with sound patterns by
Bill James and Tom Henley, musical supervision by Amerigo Marino.
(27:28):
Featured in the cast were Joseph Kernes, John Dayner, and
viv Janas. Jack Moyles is Major Daggett and Harry Bartel
is Lieutenant Sibert's.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
Company. Tension Dismiss.
Speaker 3 (28:09):
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the troopers who fought under Lee Quinn's Captain of Cavalry.
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Football’s funniest family duo — Jason Kelce of the Philadelphia Eagles and Travis Kelce of the Kansas City Chiefs — team up to provide next-level access to life in the league as it unfolds. The two brothers and Super Bowl champions drop weekly insights about the weekly slate of games and share their INSIDE perspectives on trending NFL news and sports headlines. They also endlessly rag on each other as brothers do, chat the latest in pop culture and welcome some very popular and well-known friends to chat with them. Check out new episodes every Wednesday. Follow New Heights on the Wondery App, YouTube or wherever you get your podcasts. You can listen to new episodes early and ad-free, and get exclusive content on Wondery+. Join Wondery+ in the Wondery App, Apple Podcasts or Spotify. And join our new membership for a unique fan experience by going to the New Heights YouTube channel now!
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