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December 20, 2024 • 20 mins

interview with Andrew Tate, a controversial internet personality, and Tristan, the host of the "threadguy" channel. The interview explores Tate's views on a range of subjects, including his recent release from Romanian detention, his take on cryptocurrencies, his philosophy on masculinity and personal responsibility, and the challenges of achieving success in a world that he believes is increasingly corrupt and controlled by shadowy forces. The interview reveals Tate's strong belief in the power of hard work, his disdain for those who get rich through luck or scams, and his commitment to empowering men to break free from societal programming and embrace a more authentic form of masculinity.

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All right, strap in everyone, because today we are going deep on Andrew Tate.

(00:04):
We're dissecting his no holds barred interview with Thread Guys straight
out of Bucharest, Romania.
We're talking crypto, power dynamics, masculinity, and even a bit of philosophy.
Yeah.
Tate's views are definitely a lightning rod, but that's kind of what makes
him so fascinating, right?
He's not afraid to stir the pot and challenge the norm.
He definitely doesn't hold back.

(00:25):
That's for sure.
Like when he says, I could use my power irresponsibly, but God doesn't like the lazy.
Oh yeah.
Or how about when he calls Aiden Ross a perfect example of why you can't give a
kid a $50 million streaming contract?
Oh man, it's so good.
You can really get a sense of his worldview in this interview, especially
when he gets into crypto.
Okay.
So let's break this down.

(00:46):
At first, Tate was actually a pretty harsh critic of the whole crypto scene.
He was calling it out for all the scams and anonymity.
Right.
He even said the whole thing just aggravated him and he really didn't like how
people were making money in crypto without putting in the work.
Like they were skipping the line and missing out on the real life lessons.
Exactly.
It was like a shortcut undermining real growth to him at least.

(01:07):
And man, he could not stand all those anonymous influencers, especially those
pushing right-wing ideologies.
He even said, you're too scared to even tweet with your face and you're
talking about going to war.
Uh-huh.
Classic Tate.
Calling out what he sees as hypocrisy.
Yeah, it always comes back to that core belief of his taking responsibility
and putting in the work.

(01:27):
Absolutely.
And that's really where his view on crypto gets interesting.
So then something shifted, right?
Tate realized he had some serious power in the crypto market.
Oh yeah.
He decided to flex a little and pump some coins with just a single tweet.
Just like that.
It was fascinating.
He wasn't just trying to make money.
He was making a statement, you know, showing that he could move

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markets if he wanted to.
It's almost like that's when he had this epiphany.
He saw all the, as he called it, the cesspit of the crypto world and he
decided he was going to clean it up.
Like he was the guardian angel of crypto or something.
He thought he had the influence to steer it in a more ethical direction.
Which brings us to Tate's own crypto project, the real world token.

(02:08):
Right.
He's touting this thing as a way to promote hard work and personal growth.
Okay.
So tell me about this real world token.
How's that supposed to work?
Well, it's linked to his online platform, university.com.
And he's got this whole power level system set up.
So users have to actively participate, show they're putting in the effort.
Not just buying the token.
You got to prove your walk in the walk.

(02:28):
Exactly.
So it'd be interesting to see how effective it really is.
Like, will it actually motivate real growth or will it just
end up feeling manipulative?
That's the big question, isn't it?
Okay.
Now let's talk about Tate's views on power in general.
You know, this whole idea of karmic retribution that he's always going on about.
He makes it pretty clear that he believes hard work and doing the right thing lead

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to success.
Oh yeah, totally.
But then he drops this bomb.
The men who can kill you is right.
What do you make of that?
That's Tate for you.
Always pushing the boundaries.
You know, he uses this term scop a lot, which basically means people who
blindly accept mainstream narratives.
So he's saying that real power often lies outside of the established systems.

(03:12):
So traditional morality doesn't always apply in the real world.
Yeah.
He's suggesting that whoever holds the power gets to decide what's right.
That's a pretty intense perspective.
It is.
And it ties into his own experiences with the legal system.
Right.
All the accusations against him.
He sees himself as a target because he's not afraid to speak his mind.
So he thinks his success is proof that he's on the right path.

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Well, he definitely sees it as a validation of his worldview.
He's not shying away from controversy, that's for sure.
And this leads us to another fascinating part of his philosophy, right?
His views on masculinity and the role of suffering.
Oh yeah.
This is where things get really interesting.
He actually believes that men are built to suffer and that adversity makes them stronger.
He even contrasts with how he thinks women react to pain.

(03:58):
Yeah.
Saying they become bitter and resentful.
Hmm.
Very black and white.
Wouldn't you say?
It is a very traditional, almost archaic view of gender roles.
I mean, there's some truth to the idea that overcoming challenges builds resilience,
but his views on gender are definitely rigid and potentially harmful.
You're right.
It's important to acknowledge that there are many different ways people cope with

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hardship and his views definitely don't represent everyone's experience.
For sure.
Okay.
So let's get back to crypto.
How does Tate apply this whole masculinity and suffering thing to his advice for
navigating the crypto world?
Well, he encourages people to focus on self-improvement, you know, hold themselves
accountable.
So stop chasing your own dreams.
Hold themselves accountable to stop chasing those meme coins and quick profits.

(04:42):
Yeah.
He's advocating for a more ethical and sustainable crypto environment, more
integrity, less speculation.
Precisely.
And there's another one of Tate's sound bites that really caught my attention.
He says, my flame is but an illusion.
It burns you because you believe it is real.
What do you think he means by that?
Oh man.
Classic Tate playing with perception and reality.

(05:03):
He's acknowledging his larger than life persona, but suggesting that his power
actually comes from the belief that people have in him.
So his image is a construct, but its impact is real.
Right.
Because people buy into it.
It's a pretty insightful observation about how influence works online.
It is.
And that's what makes him so fascinating to study.

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He's a master at manipulating attention and perception.
Okay.
Now here's where things get really interesting.
What's that?
Tate goes deep on this idea of karmic retribution and how it all ties into his
own life, his power, even his time in jail.
He seems to think it's all part of some grand cosmic plan.
Oh man.
This is where it gets good.
It's like he thinks he's untouchable because he's doing the right thing.

(05:44):
He even compares himself to Donald Trump.
Says they're both targeted because they can't be bought or controlled.
Oh, wow.
So he's drawing parallels with some pretty major figures.
He even goes so far as to say that anyone who hasn't faced serious legal
trouble, hasn't resisted selling out.
They're basically irrelevant in this fight against the system.
That seems a bit extreme, doesn't it?

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I mean, what about all those people working for positive change
within the existing systems?
Yeah.
I mean, it's a pretty black and white view of the world, but for Tate,
it's all about radical defiance facing the consequences, even if that means
going to jail, he must wear it as a badge of honor, doesn't he?
Like proof of his commitment to his principles.
It's a warrior mentality for sure.

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He even talks about this one incident, got into an argument with a guy and
the guy later attacked him in a parking lot, messed up his finger.
Oh, wow.
So he's saying online bravado doesn't mean anything if you can't back
it up in the real world.
Exactly.
True strength comes from facing real danger, not just keyboard warrior stuff.
And he connects this back to crypto, right?

(06:47):
Oh yeah.
All the time.
He says the anonymity of the space allows for deception and cowardice.
It's all talk and no action.
Right.
And he contrasts that with his own willingness to put his name and face out there.
He even compares himself to Genghis Khan at one point.
He's like when Alexander the Great was conquering earth, do you think he stopped?
Uh-huh.
It's like he sees himself as a modern day conqueror disrupting the status quo.

(07:09):
He definitely has that aura about him, but it's not just about wealth or influence
for Tate, it's about legacy shaping the world according to his vision.
And to do that, he feels like he needs to constantly challenge the power of
the powers that be.
He even suggests that elections are rigged.
Oh yeah.
He doesn't trust traditional institutions at all.
He's like, they're all corrupt.

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Right.
Encourages his followers to think critically, question authority, and stand up for what
they believe in.
Yeah.
Even if it means going against the grain.
Now you mentioned the matrix earlier.
What exactly does he mean by that?
So the matrix is how he describes the forces he believes are trying to control
humanity.
Like a system of manipulation.
Exactly.

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He encourages his followers to break free from it and he sees blindly accepting
mainstream narratives, what he calls SCOP as the ultimate weakness.
So anyone who hasn't broken free from the matrix is living in a state of delusion.
Pretty much.
Yeah.
He even brings up the COVID-19 pandemic says he traveled the world during lockdown,
refused to get vaccinated.

(08:10):
Wow.
Really?
Yeah.
Even brags about buying his Bugatti during that time.
Yeah.
It's all about showing defiance against a system he sees as oppressive.
It's interesting how his views on masculinity seem to be tied to this resistance to
control.
Absolutely.
He believes men are inherently more resistant to control.
They have this drive to protect and provide.

(08:31):
Which makes them targets for those who want to maintain power.
Exactly.
And that's where his whole men are built to suffer thing comes in.
Right.
Which he contrasts with his belief that women become bitter and resentful when
faced with hardship.
Yeah.
His views on gender are definitely provocative.
Desebelies.
It's important to recognize that his perspective is very narrow and potentially harmful.

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It reinforces these outdated stereotypes and ignores the complexities of human
experience.
It's not a one size fits all situation.
Not at all.
But it's definitely a core part of his worldview.
Speaking of which, let's dive a little deeper into his real world token.
OK, so he positions it as a solution to the problems he sees in the crypto space.
A way to promote hard work and discourage the get rich quick mentality.

(09:16):
OK, so it's more than just a cryptocurrency.
Right.
It's a whole philosophy.
He wants to reward those who are genuinely putting in the effort to improve themselves.
Not just chasing those quick profits.
Exactly.
It's an interesting experiment for sure.
But it also raises some questions, doesn't it?
Oh, definitely.
Like who gets to define what constitutes hard work and how to make money.

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It's hard work and personal growth.
Yeah, he's essentially setting himself up as the arbiter of those values.
Which is a bit concerning when you consider his statement about the man who can kill you
being right.
That's a very dangerous and disturbing perspective, honestly.
It normalizes violence and undermines a civil society.
It's pretty alarming, especially coming from someone with his level of influence.
Absolutely.

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It raises serious concerns about the potential for abuse.
And he even implies that assassination could be a tool that anyone, including himself,
might use if they had the opportunity.
Right.
It highlights the dangers of his worldview.
It's like he sees the world as this constant battle for power and influence.
A game he's determined to win at all costs.
Yeah.
He's definitely not playing around.

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Now you mentioned earlier that he sees the crypto community as a cesspit of deception.
Can you elaborate on that a bit?
He's really critical of what he sees as rampant scams, rug pulls, anonymous actors, just
focused on profits.
So he sees himself and his real world token as a counterpoint to this.
Exactly.
He's trying to bring ethics and integrity back to the crypto space.

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It's a pretty bold vision.
It is.
And it'll be interesting to see if he can actually pull it off.
All right.
So as we start to wrap up this deep dive, I want to get into his final message to the
crypto community.
So he urges them to create a higher trust environment, hold influencers accountable,
call out stammers, refuse to participate in those get rich quick schemes.
It's like a call to action.

(11:04):
Exactly.
He believes that collective action is the only way to build a sustainable and ethical
crypto space.
He even warns that if the community doesn't police itself, government regulation is
inevitable, which he sees as a far worse outcome.
So it's like a choice between self-regulation and external control.
Right.
He's advocating for a shift away from that Scott mentality towards a more discerning

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and critical approach to crypto.
Less blind faith, more due diligence.
Precisely.
Well, whether he succeeds or fails, Andrew Tate is a force to be reckoned with.
Oh, absolutely.
He's checking things up, challenging the status quo.
He's a lightning rod for sure.
And like he says, I'm going to use it for good.
Whether you believe him or not, the journey is definitely fascinating to watch.

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But there's a real sense of urgency in his message, almost apocalyptic, wouldn't you
say?
They're like time is running out.
He seems to think the forces of darkness are closing in.
It's a battle of the heart.
It's a battle for the future of humanity.
And he sees his role in the crypto space, particularly with his real world token as a
key part of that fight.
He believes that by promoting his values within the crypto world, he can create a model

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for a better world.
One free from the control of the matrix.
It's exact.
It's a grand vision, no doubt.
Now, before we move on, there's one relationship that really stands out in this
interview.
His views on Aiden Ross.
Oh, yeah, this is where we see a slightly different side of Tate.
Despite all the harsh rhetoric, he expresses genuine concern for Aiden, even while using

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him as an example of what can go wrong when young men achieve fame and fortune too
quickly.
Yeah, he mentions Aiden's struggles with drugs and his personal life.
He believes that young men need to experience struggle, learn those valuable life
lessons before they can handle the pressures of wealth and fame.
He contrasts Aiden's experience with his own, saying he was broke in his 20s.

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Didn't achieve real success until his 30s.
He thinks those years of hardship made him stronger, better equipped to handle the
challenges of power and influence.
He even says he would be willing to kick the living out of Aiden as a friend.
Uh huh.
Wow.
That's a bit much.
But he's saying tough love is sometimes necessary.
Yeah, he believes that coddling young men does them a disservice.
They need to be challenged to reach their full potential.

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It's a tough love approach.
That's for sure.
That's for sure. Okay, so as we wrap up this deep dive, I'm curious to hear more
about his final message to the crypto community.
So he's calling for a culture where hard work, innovation and ethical conduct are
rewarded, not just luck or market manipulation.

(13:40):
It's bold vision.
It is, but one that might face some resistance.
From those who benefit from the current system, you mean.
Exactly.
Well, it'll certainly be interesting to see if he can gain any traction with this
message, whether he succeeds or fails.
Andrew Tate is undoubtedly a force to be reckoned with.
Oh, he's a game changer.
No doubt about it.
He's shaking things up, challenging the status quo.
He's a lightning rod, a provocateur.

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And as he puts it, I'm going to use it for good.
You know, whether you believe him or not, it's a fascinating journey to watch.
But there's that urgency in his message again, right?
Almost an apocalyptic tone.
Yeah.
He seems to believe that time is running out, that the forces of darkness are closing in.
It's like a battle for the future of humanity.
And he sees his role in the crypto space as a key part of that fight.

(14:23):
It's a grand vision for sure.
But let's take a step back for a second and consider the broader implications of his message.
So what do you think?
He's clearly tapping into a sense of anxiety and discontent among young men.
You know, those who feel lost or marginalized in today's world.
Yeah, I can see that.
And he's offering them a sense of purpose, a path to power and agency.

(14:46):
In a world that often feels hostile.
Exactly.
But we have to acknowledge the potential dangers of his rhetoric, right?
Oh, absolutely.
His message can be interpreted as a justification for extremism.
For rejecting any form of authority or regulation.
It's a slippery slope.
It's important to encourage critical thinking and questioning the status quo.
But we also have to promote responsible engagement and avoid falling into those

(15:10):
conspiracy theories or harmful ideologies.
Absolutely.
We need to help people understand that Tate's vision is just one perspective among many.
There are other ways to approach these issues.
Other solutions to the problems he identified.
Right.
It's not a one size fits all situation.
Yeah.
Okay.
So as we wrap up this deep dive, what are the key takeaways for our listeners?

(15:31):
What should they be thinking about?
I think the most important thing is critical thinking.
Don't just accept what someone tells you.
Even someone who's charismatic as Andrew Tate.
Do your own research.
Consider different perspectives.
Form your own conclusions.
Don't drink the Kool-Aid.
Exactly.
And be mindful the power of narratives.
Tate is a master storyteller.
He knows how to draw people in.

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And reinforce his worldview.
So pay attention to the language he uses, the imagery, the emotions he taps into.
Ask yourself why his message resonates with you.
What potential biases might be at play?
It's not just about crypto, right?
It's about power, masculinity, the future of society.
These are complex issues.
With no easy answers.
So be skeptical, be curious.

(16:13):
And be open to challenging your own assumptions.
That's how you navigate this world responsibly.
And make informed choices.
All right.
This deep dive has been a wild ride.
It has.
We've unpacked some really fascinating and disturbing ideas, but hopefully our
listeners feel a bit more equipped now.
Equipped to do what?
To engage with these issues in a more critical and informed way.

(16:34):
Yeah, that's the goal.
Remember, it's not about agreeing or disagreeing with everything Andrew Tate says.
It's about understanding his worldview.
And the impact it's having on the world.
All right.
So as you go about your day, keep those critical thinking skills sharp.
Don't let anyone tell you what to think.
Be aware of the narratives you're consuming.
And always question the status quo.
And most importantly, remember that you have the power to shape your own reality.

(16:59):
To make a positive impact on the world.
Well, that wraps up our deep dive into the world of Andrew Tate.
We'll catch you next time for another thought provoking exploration.
Yeah, it's wild how he frames this whole thing as a battle between good and evil.
Light and darkness.
He even talks about discovering a golden egg in the crypto space.
You know, his real world token.

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Yeah.
He loves that kind of imagery, right?
It's very deliberate.
He's positioning himself as this like savior figure, a prophet even.
Leading his followers to the promised land.
Exactly.
A world where traditional masculinity is back on top.
Hard work and personal responsibility are everything.
And that whole matrix of control is shattered.
But then he throws in this warning, right?

(17:42):
He says if the crypto community doesn't get its act together and embrace his vision,
government regulation is coming.
Oh, yeah.
He sees that as a total dystopia.
Like individual freedom is crushed.
So it's like a call to action almost.
He's trying to rally the troops, you know, telling his supporters they got to take charge
and shape the future of crypto is a choice.
Join him in creating a decentralized ethical space or face the consequences of a centralized system.

(18:08):
And I can see why that resonates with some people, especially those who feel disillusioned
with traditional institutions and systems.
It gives them a sense of agency, a chance to be part of something bigger.
Yeah.
But we have to acknowledge the potential dangers here, right?
Of course, his message can be interpreted as a justification for extremism, for rejecting any kind of authority.

(18:29):
It's a slippery slope.
For sure.
Like encouraging critical thinking and questioning the status quo is important.
But we also have to promote responsible engagement and make sure people don't fall into those
conspiracy theories or harmful ideologies.
Right.
It's about balance.
Exactly.
We got to help people understand that Tate's vision is just one perspective.
There are other ways to approach these things.

(18:51):
So what are the key takeaways for our listeners then?
What should they be thinking about as they navigate this crazy world?
Crazy world of crypto and online influence.
I think the most important thing is critical thinking, you know?
Don't just take someone's word for it.
Even someone as charismatic as Andrew Tate.
Do your own research.

(19:11):
Look at different perspectives.
Form your own conclusions.
Don't just drink the Kool-Aid.
Right.
And be aware of the power of narratives.
Tate's a master at that.
He knows how to tell a good story, how to draw people in.
Pay attention to the language he uses, the imagery, the emotions he's trying to evoke.
Ask yourself why his message resonates with you.
What biases might be at play?

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It's not just about crypto.
It's about power, masculinity, the future of society.
Pig stuff.
And there are no easy answers.
So be skeptical, be curious.
And be open to challenging your own assumptions.
That's how you stay informed and make responsible choices.
For sure.
Well, this deep dive has been quite the journey.
It really has.
We've explored some fascinating and sometimes disturbing ideas.

(19:53):
But hopefully our listeners are leaving with a better understanding of Andrew Tate
and his worldview.
And how to engage with these issues in a more critical and informed way.
Remember, it's not about agreeing or disagreeing with Tate.
It's about understanding the forces that have shaped him.
And the impact he's having on the world.
So as you go about your day, keep those critical thinking skills sharp.

(20:16):
Don't let anyone tell you what to think.
Be aware of the narratives you're consuming.
And always question the status quo.
And most importantly, remember that you have the power to shape your own reality.
And to make a positive impact on the world.
All right.
That's a wrap on our deep dive into the world of Andrew Tate.
Until next time, keep thinking critically, keep questioning,

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and keep striving to be the best version of yourselves.
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