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December 25, 2024 • 14 mins

Wes Watson's pursuit of material wealth and status affect his personal relationships

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All right. Hey everyone. Welcome in. So today we're doing a deep dive on this guy,

(00:03):
Wes Watson. Wes Watson. Yeah. You've probably seen him around online.
Motivational speaker, fitness influencer. X-con. Right. X-con. Yeah.
And people seem to either love him or hate him. There's really no in between.
Yeah. Big strong opinions about this guy for sure.
So we found a couple of really interesting sources about him.
One is this YouTube video essay that's super critical,

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kind of rips them apart. Oh really? Yeah.
And then there's this biographical article that's a little more neutral.
Yeah. It focuses more on like how he made all his money. Oh, interesting.
So we've got two very different angles here. Right.
And our goal is to kind of go through both of these, see what they say,
and hopefully, you know, help you figure out if this guy's legit,

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if he's full of it, or maybe it's a little both. Sounds like a good plan.
So to kick things off,
can you just give us a little rundown of like who Wes Watson is based on what
you've read in these sources? Yeah. So both sources agree.
I mean, he's built this whole career after getting out of prison, right?
Like he uses that experience as like the foundation for his whole message of
like self-improvement discipline. Okay.

(01:06):
So that's his whole thing, like turning your life around. Exactly.
But this is where that YouTube video gets super interesting.
It claims that, you know, under all that he's more about ego and showing off his
wealth. Okay. So maybe not so much about actually helping people. Yeah.
That's what they're suggesting. Which is interesting.
Cause the article actually talks about how much money he's made.
I think they said his net worth is estimated somewhere between one and five

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million dollars. Wow. It's crazy, right?
Like he went from prison to basically Bugatti level as the video puts it.
Yeah. I mean, that's a pretty impressive glow up financially speaking.
I'm curious, how did they say he made all that money?
They break it down in the article. It's like all the usual influencer stuff,
social media, fitness coaching, speaking gigs, online courses. Yep. Online courses.

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He's really covering all the bases. Makes sense.
It's a pretty tried and true formula these days. Right.
But the article also mentions that he like invests a ton in his own personal
development, fitness, which if the YouTube video is right,
that seems kind of, I don't know, contradictory. Yeah, it does a little bit.
So the video is really pushing this narrative that Watson's not who he

(02:14):
presents himself to be. Yeah, pretty much. And they like really go deep.
They dug through all his online stuff, his courses, his interactions with people,
even his personal life. Okay. So they did their research.
Like what kind of stuff did they find? Any examples that stood out? Oh yeah.
Plenty. So there's this one interaction, right?
Where a client thanks him for something and Watson just goes,

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if you're not asking a question, I'm going to kill you. Whoa. Hold on. What?
That's, uh, yeah, not exactly the kindest, most supportive mentor out there.
No, not at all. That sounds more like, I don't know,
a drill sergeant or something.
And the video says this kind of like aggressive, almost demeaning communication
style is pretty common for him. Like that's just how he talks to people.

(02:54):
Yikes. Okay. So maybe not the most approachable guy.
And I guess that kind of feeds into this whole alpha male persona he's built
around himself, right? Definitely. And the video argues that, you know,
this persona, this alpha male thing is specifically designed to appeal to a
certain kind of audience. Oh, interesting. Like who?
Guys who are looking for a shortcut, you know, they want success, value,

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they want success, validation, all that, and they want it fast.
And Watson's selling them that dream packaged up in this whole alpha male
image.
Okay. I can see that. And they even compared them to Andrew Tate in the video,
right? Yeah. Another, I guess you'd say controversial influencer known for his,
uh, pretty strong opinions about masculinity.

(03:37):
Yeah. And that's a whole other can of worms, right? I mean,
Tate's got his own set of problems. Totally.
But the point the video was making is that both of them,
Watson and Tate, they're both tapping into this same desire for like quick fixes
and validation. And they're using this, you know, alpha image to do it.
It's definitely strategy we're seeing more and more in line. Right.
It's like this weird mix of self-help and I don't know,

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almost like a dominance hierarchy.
Yeah. And that's where it starts to get really interesting because on the one
hand, you've got Watson preaching self-improvement, discipline, all that.
But then on the other, you've got these claims that he's, well,
basically an aggressive jerk who's maybe not all that interested in actually
helping people.
Yeah. It's like we're getting two completely different versions of who he is.

(04:20):
Exactly. And that's what we're going to try to unpack.
We're going to dig into those contradictions and try to figure out, you know,
is Wes Watson legit or is there something else going on here?
All right. So we've got this image of him being, well, aggressive,
materialistic, maybe even manipulative.
But then the article talks about how he's all about self-improvement, discipline.

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How do we square those two things?
That's the million dollar question, isn't it? And to answer it,
I think we need to look closer at the thing the video is most critical of,
his courses.
Oh right. His courses.
And the YouTuber who made that video said they were super expensive,
more about promoting himself than actually teaching anything useful.
Yeah. And they brought up this specific program,

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one of his mastermind things that costs a whopping $15,000 to
join.
$15,000. That's insane.
Right. Like who can afford that?
And when the YouTuber asked Watson if it was really worth that much,
let's just say he didn't take it too well.
Oh man.
So it sounds like there might be a big disconnect between the image he
projects and how he actually operates behind the scenes.

(05:23):
Yeah. It definitely makes you wonder if he's really in it to help people,
or if it's more about, you know, lining his own pockets.
And then there's his personal life,
which the video also goes into quite a bit.
And apparently there's some pretty questionable stuff there too,
especially in terms of his views on women.
Right. They talk a lot about how he seems to focus on dating single mothers.

(05:43):
And there are even some allegations about him using escort services,
which, you know,
Yeah, it's not a good look.
Not a good look at all. And it seems kind of hypocritical, you know,
he's telling everyone to be this strong, successful man,
but then he's allegedly doing stuff that exploits and objectifies women.
Yeah. The video really highlights that contradiction and it gets even more

(06:04):
interesting when you consider that both of Watson's marriages,
both to single mothers, by the way, ended in divorce.
Huh. So there might be some, I don't know, patterns there.
It's hard to say for sure, but it's definitely something to consider.
And it all ties back to this bigger conversation about what it means to be a
man today, you know, like what are the messages we're sending?

(06:24):
What are the values we're promoting?
Yeah. It's a really complex issue.
And it seems like Watson's right in the middle of it.
For better or for worse.
Right. So we've got this image of him as this aggressive guy who, you know,
maybe isn't all about actually helping people,
but you've got the article that talks about how much money he's made,
how he's built this whole business empire.
And then there's the whole alpha male thing,

(06:45):
which is like a whole other layer on top of all of this.
Yeah. It's a lot to process for sure, but that's why we're doing this deep dive.
We're going to take all these pieces,
all these different perspectives and try to make sense of it all.
And hopefully by the end of this,
you'll have a much clearer picture of who Wes Watson really is and if he's
someone worth listening to.
All right. So we've covered a lot of ground in this first part.

(07:06):
We've got the YouTube video that's super critical,
the article that's more neutral,
and we've started to see some of the contradictions and potential red flags
with this guy, but we still have a lot more to unpack. Right?
Oh yeah. We've only just scratched the surface.
There's still so much more to explore,
especially about those courses and his whole business model.

(07:27):
And we need to figure out how to reconcile those allegations of, you know,
manipulation and exploitation with this image of him as a self-made success
story. Okay. So we've got some serious digging to do. Buckle up.
It's going to get interesting.
So last time we were digging into those expensive courses that Wes Watson
offers and that YouTuber who made the video felt like they were more about

(07:47):
self-promotion than real substance.
Yeah. That $15,000 price tag for the mastermind program really stood out.
Oh, absolutely.
It's like that much money is just a barrier, you know,
it suggests that maybe he's more interested in catering to like a wealthy
clientele than genuinely helping people.
Yeah. Like it almost makes his message of self-improvement feel kind of elitist.

(08:09):
You know, like you could achieve anything, but only if you pay me enough.
Exactly. And it creates the scarcity, this urgency, which is, you know,
classic marketing tactic. Right. Like get it now before it's gone.
Yeah, that kind of thing.
And it's interesting because the article talked about him investing in himself.
But from what we saw in that video, it seems like the main investment
he's pushing is in him.
Yeah. Good point.

(08:30):
It makes you think about what his idea of self-improvement really is.
Is it about image status or genuine growth?
Okay. So we've got the courses, the ethics of it all.
And then the video gets into some heavier stuff about his views on women,
especially his focus on dating single mothers.
Right. And those allegations of him using escort services.
I'm being...

(08:50):
Which, you know, I think is a good point.
I think he's using escort services.
I'm being...
Yeah, that's not a good look.
No, not at all. It feels hypocritical, right?
Preaching strength and success, but then allegedly doing things that exploit women.
It's a really bad look.
It raises serious questions about his values, whether his actions match his words.

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And it's interesting, both of his marriages, both to single mothers, ended in divorce.
Yeah. I mean, we can't know for sure about someone's personal life
and their ideals, but those patterns, you know...
Worth thinking about.
Definitely. And it all goes back to this idea of what it means to be a man today.
You know?
Watson's tapping into something that a lot of men are feeling, right?

(09:31):
It's pressure to be financially successful, dominant, surrounded by beautiful women.
Yeah, exactly.
And the video argues that he's pushing a version of masculinity that's just harmful
based on surface level stuff and control.
And there's a comparison they made to Andrew Tate, which, you know...
Oh, boy. Tate's a whole different level, though.
Yeah, for sure. For sure.

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But the comparison kind of makes sense in the context of what the video is saying.
Like, both of them are pushing this version of masculinity
rooted in money, dominance and control over women.
It's a narrow definition of success and happiness.
Like all about external validation.
Exactly. And it can lead to this endless chase for things that don't really matter.

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Which is ironic, considering Watson's whole thing is about self-improvement.
Right.
Makes you wonder if he's actually living by what he preaches
or if he's more caught up in the image, the status.
OK. So we've talked about the courses, the treatment of women,
his whole alpha male thing.
So what does this all mean, you know, in the big picture?
I think it shows how important it is to be careful about what we consume online.

(10:35):
There are so many voices out there claiming to have the answers, but...
How you know who to trust.
Critical thinking.
Don't just accept what you hear, even if they seem successful or charismatic.
Ask questions, get different perspectives.
Check if their actions match their words.
Exactly. So with Wes Watson, you have to look at what he does,
especially with women and in his business,
and see if it lines up with his message of self-improvement.

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So it's really up to each person to decide what they think about him, right?
Right. Is his story inspirational or a cautionary tale?
We've uncovered a lot of contradictions, red flags,
but we haven't talked much about what the article highlights about his success, his businesses.
That's true, and it's important to look at that side too.
We'll dive into that next time and see if we can reconcile it with the criticisms.

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All right. So we spent a good chunk of time talking about that YouTube video
and all the criticisms they had of Wes Watson,
but we do have that other source, that bio article,
that focuses more on his business success,
and it feels like we're getting two very different pictures of this guy.
It does, yeah. And I think it's only fair to give both sides equal weight.
That article, it paints him as a smart entrepreneur

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who built this whole empire from nothing.
He's turned his past, his story, into a brand all about discipline and self-mastery.
Yeah, which on the surface, at least, is pretty inspiring.
A lot of people love that whole rags of riches story.
Absolutely. And the article points out how diverse his income streams are.
We're talking social media, fitness coaching, speaking, online courses.

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The guys built a whole business ecosystem around his brand.
But then we've also heard from that video that some of those things,
those expensive courses, might not be all they're cracked up to be.
Yeah, that's where it gets tricky.
You have this self-made millionaire,
but then there's these accusations of cutting corners, overcharging,
maybe even manipulating people to get there.
It's like two sides of the same coin, right?

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One side, it's the dream life, the business empire,
but you flip it over and there's this darker side with the aggression,
the way he treats women, those shady business practices.
Exactly. And I think that's what makes this whole deep dive worthwhile.
It's not about telling you what to think about Wes Watson.
It's about giving you all the pieces so you can make up your own mind.

(12:46):
So someone's listening to this, maybe thinking about following Watson,
taking his courses or buying into that alpha male philosophy.
What would you say to them?
I'd say be careful, be critical.
Don't just get swept up in the hype and the promises.
Dig a little deeper.
Like we've been doing here.
Exactly. Look at all the angles.
Ask yourself if the values he's promoting actually sit right with you.

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And I think it's important to remember that success doesn't have to look one specific way.
It's not always about fancy cars and private jets.
Right. True fulfillment.
It often comes from growing as a person, having real connections
and contributing to something bigger than yourself.
Those things might not be as flashy on social media,
but they matter more in the long run.

(13:30):
So maybe the real lesson here isn't about judging Wes Watson,
but about using his story as a reminder to define success on our own terms.
Exactly. Don't let someone else tell you what your version of success should be.
I think that's a great note to end on.
So there you have it. You've heard all the different sides, seen the contradictions,
and now it's up to you to decide what you think about Wes Watson.

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And remember, it's OK to be inspired by someone's story without following them blindly.
Thanks for joining us for this deep dive.
We'll catch you next time.
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