Episode #75 Our Seven Top 5

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Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Theory sounds like Asians.
That's right.
Good people.
Good news.
Yeah, that's true.
Very true.
Not really a theory, more factual statements.
That's right.
Anyways.
Welcome.
Welcome, Legions.

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Once again, welcome to the Whatcha Been Watching podcast.
I am your host, the marvelous Mike Dudley.
Joined, as always, by my co-host, cohort, and fellow Hurricane compatriots.
That's right.
MD3, Marcus Dudley checking in on the Y-O-U.
What is going on out there in Podcast Land?
We are broadcasting live from the Lake Jackson Studios of the Whatcha Been Watching Studios

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fame.
What's going on with you, my brother?
Yeah, lakefront property at this point, right?
About to be.
Yeah, about to be.
What's going on with you, though, man?
Oh, man, just anticipating the apocalypse that is Hurricane Helena or Helena.
Helena, I think.
Either way.
I don't know.
But anyways, other than that, everything good, though?
Yeah, man.

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Yeah, yeah.
Just, I don't know, just trying my best to not put my foot in my mouth every time I go
to make a joke.
Yes.
Somebody asked me recently, they said, is your brother racist?
I said I says to him, I says, Michael, racists?
No.
He said he's insensitive and he's stupid.

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He's not racist.
No, he's just simple.
He's insensitive.
Unfortunately, I know a lot of people with those downfalls, though, so he's all right.
But anyways, just because I appreciate the differences in races doesn't mean that I hold
one superior over the other.
There you go.
There you go.
Anyways, you know, after this hurricane strikes, it will be always bright.

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I hope so.
By Ketzer, dare I say.
So thank you for the lovely intro music.
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not tonight, bro.
Yeah, well, not tonight.
We are not out there.
We are hunkered down.
So don't come looking.
That's right.
Unless you're trying to make sure we're alive.
Like you noted, always find us by the ghillie suit.
I'm chilling out in the in the flooded ditches trying to catch baby alligators for sustenance.
I got a duck floaty wings.
Duck floaty wings.
You know what I'm talking about?
The little floaty wings.
Yeah.
Yeah.

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She wrap around your arms.
I just happen to have ducks on them.
Oh, sweet.
Yeah.
You know, I'm talking about anyways, just for safety sake.
Yeah, absolutely.
But if you're looking for us otherwise, please always look for the very colorful banner done
by the middle duds himself.
You can find him at what?
M K Dudley.
M K Dudley Arts.
I always mess up his handle.
I know I should.
That's why you're here though.
Um, man, we have a very special episode.
It's going to be a little bit rapid fire as we are trying to brave the elements.

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So it probably might not be as long as usual, but you know what?
It's a free podcast and we're here for the Y.O.U. as always.
So that's also the same thing I say during foreplay.
That's right.
Yeah.
I'm not gonna be here very long.
It's not long, but we're going to keep it short.
Don't worry.
It's not long, but it is skinny.
So anyways, uh, my style.

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Yeah.
All right.
We're way off the rails already.
Uh, this hurricane does strange things to people.
So the reason why people tune in month in month out biweekly, whatever this may be, my brother,
they need to know what you've been watching.
I have been watching on Netflix, the show called chaos of the Jeff Goldblum Jeff Goldblum's.

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Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So I'm not gonna feed or whatever, but it and turn it on.
What's up with it?
The elevator pitch I can best give it is it's kind of like, uh, good omens meets, uh, like
succession or, um, maybe even Dallas or something like that.
Dallas, they have really cool cars then.

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That's true.
So I, for those, I don't know those shows like that.
I mean, succession, succession I've never seen.
So I mean, it's basically, uh, or, or maybe, maybe a better analogy would be it's more
akin to the West wing in terms of it's all family politics and backroom deals and one
brother betraying another, but it's, it's put in a very, it's put in a very, not lighthearted

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because it deals with some very serious issues, but, um, almost overly jovial semi campy kind
of way, like almost like, uh, like, I guess like the righteous gemstones or, or, um, yeah,
I guess good omens would be a good, uh, a counterpoint to that in terms of it's very

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snappy dialogue.
Everybody's very witty.
It's dark humor, but addressed in a very light sort of manner.
You know what I mean?
I mean, I guess without seeing it, but I guess my, my question is what's, what's the hook?
So the hook is, uh, basically Zeus played by Jeff Goldblum.
Oh, okay.

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Okay.
Now, now we're talking.
I was like, I don't want to watch Jeff Goldblum be serious in the West wing for a single second.
No, no, no.
He's, he's very much a, a power hungry, uh, driven by ego and jealousy sort of, you know,
very classical Greek God.
Okay.
All right.
Now I'm on board.

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You've sold me now.
Yeah.
So he decides that, um, something happens to where, uh, on his day of Olympia, it's
basically like not necessarily his birthday, but it's just a day to celebrate all the gods.
It's basically like the Greek Christmas or whatever.
It's like, it's the big holiday.
Okay.
Somebody, uh, the, the, the country of, of, uh, Crete unveils a new monument to the gods.

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And as they pull down the sheets, you know, giving the big reveals, somebody has dumped
two tons of manure and written in shit on the wall.
Fuck the gods.
Ooh.
So of course he takes this personally and decides that the whole reason why humans aren't,
um, as devoted or, or, uh, uh, religious or, or, or not paying as much homage to him

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is because he's been absent and hasn't given them a reason to fear him.
So he devised a plan, I'm going to wipe out half the population.
I'm going to bring on earthquakes.
They're bringing on grateful pretty much.
Pretty much, pretty much, pretty much.
So, um, then all of a sudden this long story short, this, this plot develops to where,

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um, through certain characters and they, they do a really good job of addressing it.
It blends, um, classic Greek mythology with on, on, on like a modern spin.
So like it takes place in present day Crete, Greece, whatever.
But people still worship the old gods basically.

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And so you have, you know, um, Orpheus, uh, his wife dies.
And so there's the legend of him going into the underworld to retrieve his lost bride.
There's, um, uh, Ariadne and her brother, uh, Glaucus, who is the son of King Minos
of Crete and you know, the, the, the legend of the Minotaur and stuff like that.

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And the labyrinth beneath his, his palace and stuff like that.
So it's, it's all these really classical Greek mythologies, but they give a modern retelling
of it.
Okay.
You know, um, yeah.
And so basically the, the whole plot is basically a group of humans learn that the gods are
lying to them and that there is no hereafter, there is no, uh, resurrection.

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There's no great portal through which you pass and you're judged by your character and
reborn into a new life.
They're just sucking people's souls to keep themselves alive forever.
Oh, wow.
And is that true or?
Oh, yeah, yeah.
It's, it's, it's happening.
Yeah.
That's, that's through the, through the process of the, of the series.
That's what we learn is that the, as characters travel into underworld and, and had faced death

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either through their wife or their loved ones or through themselves, they learned that,
Oh, this is all just a sham.
Just to literally suck humans dry.
Oh, so, and then you're being punished at the same time for not believing.
Exactly.
Exactly.
Exactly.
Dangled a lot of carrot there.
More stick than carrot.
It sounds like very much.
So, yeah.
Okay.

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Yeah.
Yeah.
I'm out on this now.
Now you got me now.
All right.
Cool.
Cool.
But the succession and the Dallas part comes in, in terms of, you know, you have Poseidon
who's fucking, uh, Zeus is Greek mythology.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like he's fucking Hera behind Zeus's back and God forbid Zeus find out about it, even

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though he's had thousands of affairs and sired thousands of demi gods and half children and
this that the other, you know, as long as Hera is not cheating, that's the important
thing.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So, um, and then you, you know, you have Dionysus, who's the God of like revelry and stuff like
that and, and wine and harvest and all of those.
Yeah.

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Yeah.
Yeah.
You know, we were introduced to him.
He's basically out of rave and he's been alive for so long that, you know, he's just rambly
fucking people and taking whatever drugs come his way.
And he's just got this passive board look on his face the whole time.
So he decides that the way that he should regain happiness is by having more power and
more responsibility within the family.

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So he goes to his father's zoos to like, Hey man, I want a promotion.
I want to, I want to be in charge of something.
And so it's, he sort of inadvertently sets this whole group of humans who learn the truth
about death down their path.
Okay.
Sounds interesting.
Actually.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It definitely helps.

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There's a lot of good Easter eggs in terms of if you're somebody like me who just absorbed
all the Greek mythology and read all of that, you know, they have Prometheus, they have
Ariadne, they have Persephone, you know, like all these very classical Greek characters and
to see them played out in modern terms is very interesting.
Yeah.
You should play Hades.

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I have, I gotta admit, I like the game, but it's frustrating because I can only take so
many deaths before I'm like, all right, just let me get to the next level.
Even though I know that's the point of the game is you die, you resurrect, you go get
more points and then you, you advance just a little bit more down the same dungeon every

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time I get it.
It's a different dungeon each time, partly, but no, I know what you mean though.
Yeah.
But the same levels, like every time you die, you have to start at level one, one, but,
but you carry over all your power and knowledge and skills.
So like it gets a little easier each time, but there's only so many times I can die 15
times in a row where I'm like, God damn it.
I just, the only reason I say that and I'm not trying to turn this into what you've been
playing is whoever wrote the video game, Hades, the writers had to write tens of thousands

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of pages of dialogue.
Oh yeah.
Like you never see, and it goes, and I've played through it hundreds and hundreds.
They get some deep mythological characters.
They're bringing in like the Sphinx, they're bringing in Nick's, they're bringing in.
Yeah.
I'm just saying it's crazy.
Like, so I was just pitching if you like those, like the actual story that unfolds is really
cool in that game as well.
But no, I checked that out.

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Jeff Goldblum playing a Zeus as it were.
Yeah.
And he's very, very Jeff Goldblum for better or worse.
I think, I think in a weird way, he might be the weakest link because he tends to go
a little bit campy sometimes, but that's, but that's just Jeff Goldblum.
So I mean, I would watch it.

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It just, like you said, I'm the Jeff Goldblum camp does kind of run thin at some point when
it works, it works.
And then, but it's not something I don't know, can sustain an entire series.
I mean, if you want somebody to play an egotistical narcissist, but also with like severe neuroses.
Yeah.
He's a good pick who you can get Jeff Goldblum or you can get a Jeff Goldblum like, right.

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Exactly.
Yeah.
So it's, it's fun.
It's, it's, it's fun.
It's very snappy and witty and everybody sort of is the cleverest person in the room at
all times for better or worse.
Does that make sense?
It does.
They're all battling for the wittiest retort.
Pretty much, pretty much.
So, but at least it's entertaining and, and yeah, yeah, yeah.

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The concept is, the concept is enough.
There's enough of a hook to keep me interested.
And also it's, it's done really, really well.
Like they end every single episode on a cliffhanger where you're like, well, now I got to watch
the next episode, right?
Like, I can't just not know what happens.
So figured out streaming TV.
Yeah.
It's very, very bingeable.
Is it a limited series or is it potentially just hasn't signed on for season two yet?

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Or does it wrap up at the end or no.
And that's kind of one of my things is they end ambiguously.
Like basically it just ends in terms of they, they bring to light like, Oh, the gods are
all cheating us in death and not letting us resurrect.
They're stealing our life force.

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And so it basically ends with this coalition of, of humans who go fuck the gods basically.
And so they have to, I guess in season two, that's going to be the impetus is to how do
we bring this to light and how do we educate the populace in terms of what's really happening
and also not get killed by people who can literally make thunderstorms and earthquakes

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happen on a whim.
Quite the, uh, quite the dilemma.
The dilemma indeed.
Yeah.
Well, cool.
No, I'll check that out.
I'll check that out.
How many episodes is it?
Uh, I want to say, I want to say eight or nine.
I don't remember exactly.
It's between our each or no summer a little bit longer.
Uh, I think the shortest one is probably 40 minutes.

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The longest one is the first and last episode, which is tops in at just over an hour.
I think it's, I think it's like an hour and two minutes or something like that.
All right.
All right.
I can do that then.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Cool.
You want to review it or if you finished it all, let's see, I'm going to give it, um,
I'll give it three lightning strikes sent forth from the power of Zeus.

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It is funny.
Somebody said to me a long time ago, he was a, uh, he had, I think a minor degree in like
Greek history or something like that.
And he was saying like how, I mean, we all do it all the time.
We bastardize words, how everyone like nowadays, Oh man, these cheese fries are awesome.
And like, really it's like Zeus is awesome.
Roar power, like part of the clouds.

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Oh yeah.
Yeah.
Like we just take something that used to be pretty cool and just ruined it.
Right.
Right.
Zeus is awesome.
Roar.
And when he said that, I was like, yeah, we kind of do.
Right.
Right.
Like awesome used to mean literally like awe inspiring.
I am dumbfounded by what I have just seen.
I have no, no words to describe it.
And now it's just like, it's like the word has been neutered.

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You know, like, I know you wanted to go more roncy than that.
It has a taste in Michael.
You've grown so much and tell us someone, even though we dropped some early bombs and
I started them.
So anyways, all right, I'll check that out.
I'll check that out.
Yeah, man.
Uh, so that's pretty much the only thing I've been watching recently.
Um, yeah, I kind of spent my load on the, on last true what you've been watching.

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So that was a, uh, even then I realized I was like, oh, I didn't talk about certain
things, but I probably, I've already forgot what they are.
So yeah, it's all good.
Well, we actually are going to play a game.
So we're not, we're not a game, but we're going to have a little girl off topic.
So I got something though.
Hell yeah, man.
What you've been watching.
I actually watched, uh, the HBO, I guess it's just max now.
Yeah.
Uh, the penguin, Colin Farrell.

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I gotta admit, man, I actually really liked it.
I liked the Matt Reeves, the Batman movie.
Um, there's aspects of it that, eh, dragged down a little bit.
The storyline about the Rata, a lot of thing dragged on a drug on a little too far, however
you say it.
Um, but overall, I really liked that movie.
I, oh, where they dropped the clue of like, it's a rat with wings or whatever, but it's

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in Spanish and the only one who figures out as a penguin who's like, it's not El Ratata.
It's Laura Tata.
Like you couldn't do a basic Google search.
It wasn't quite that, but it was, it was pretty, it was pretty.
Yeah.
It sounds like a bat to me.
Yeah.
But anyways, I, that plot line went on a little too much.
I actually really otherwise really, really liked that movie.

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Um, I actually hold it pretty high regard because it was the first time I got to see
Batman be a detective.
Sure.
Sure.
I've been waiting for that story for a long time.
I will say, I think that they, the whole third post credit third act where all of a sudden
now there's a bomb, like it's kind of a, they call it a fourth act, Michael.
Well, but that's not really how structured movies work.
There's a first, first, second and third acts like seven acts and freaking Shakespeare and

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stuff, man.
Shakespeare.
However you say it.
Listen, I'm just saying it's not, Reeves is not Shakespeare.
I'm not saying he is.
I'm just saying, don't act like it's a brand new concept.
There's four facts all the time.
I just mean that that whole post thing kind of seemed a little tacked on and I did not
necessarily unnecessary, but like the story had already been told anyway.

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That's my one nitpick.
No, no, no.
Well, either way, point me.
It, it picks up, which I really like.
I mean, Batman quote unquote, like he solves the Riddler, but he solves it too late and
he actually played into his hands.
And I like that aspect of like, Oh, I actually kind of let the bad guy win.
And he used me as the muscle to get this guy to the light.
And then the end was like, we, we did such great work together.

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And he's like, wait, what are you talking about?
He's like, dude, you, you brought them to the light so I could kill it.
They're like, what?
So I liked that twist and Batman outright ultimately like losing, but then having to
save as many people as he can in the end was, was a nice twist.
But the penguin picks up.
I do agree in terms of rather than trying to be the hero of like, I've got to stop crime.
I've got to, you know, beat up the bad guys.

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He learns how to become the hero.
Like it's about saving people.
It's not about dispensing justice.
It's about protecting the populace of Gotham.
So I do like that aspect.
I just kind of feel like you could have gotten there.
That's a little shorter.
That's a fair criticism.
But again, I overall, I really liked the movie.
The penguin picks up moments after that.
Okay.
After the, the, the bombs go off.

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After the bombs go off and the Riddler floods Gotham, it picks up immediately after that.
I mean, we're talking the newsreel it's, it's him inside of the iceberg lounge kind of
overseeing the city and it immediately kind of picks up with newsreel starting to talk
about how the terrorist, the Riddler did these things and now how the bombs went off and

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like all the, the poor sections of Gotham are flooded.
And so obviously the people that need the most help are getting the least amount of
help.
I mean, even before the bombs went off.
Welcome to America.
Yeah.
And so, and then the people in the suburbs are kind of just living just fine.
And there's a, oh, it's so tragic.
We should start a GoFundMe to help them.
Thoughts and prayers.
Right.

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Yeah.
Yeah.
Thoughts and prayers.
And they do a great opening shot where you see, and it's very reminiscent of, ironically
enough as a hurricane's overhead of Hurricane Katrina, when they showed the shot of, of
one of the, I think they're called sections or whatever they're called.
One of them in New Orleans being submerged underwater and there's signs out on the, out

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on people's homes and stuff saying like, please don't forget us.
We still are like, we're alive.
Like please come to us.
Please help.
Right.
Right.
And there's a very reminiscent shot of that where you see on the right side, it's completely
flooded and not only is it flooded, but the exit ramp to get up and over to the green
side has been completely destroyed.
So even their ability to rise up and overcome these things have been destroyed.

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It's very sociological.
I guess.
Yeah.
Like socio-economic kind of commentary.
Yeah.
And it's, it's a very cool shot and that's where it starts ultimately.
And it pulls from a lot of really good characters.
If you're a fan, they continue the trend of if you are a fan of the more detective style

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Batman, it really pulls a lot of characters from one of my favorite Batman runs, which
if you've, even if you don't like Batman, you could read this story and be a fan of
it in the long Halloween.
Oh, I love that.
I'm dude.
That's such a good, like you talk about Batman being a detective.
That is him.
One of the ones it's, it's very like film the war.
It's very like, there's a femme fatale.

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There's the impetus.
There's the like the misdirect.
There's the McGuffin.
There's the guy who's like, I mean, you, you almost could picture like, you know, she walked
in and into the Batcave and it wasn't just the chill of the air that made my spine tingle.
It was the way she looked.
Yeah, stuff like that.
And so they pull a lot of the same characters from that, which again is right up my alley.

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And so it talks about immediately about there's a, a vacuum of power amongst the crime families
and it really picks up after that.
And it's the cause in the movie, Penguin shoots a Falcone because they find out Falcone's
the rat, right?
Um, not was it the Riddler?
The Riddler kills them either way.
Yeah.

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Right.
Well, yeah, he's been killed.
The son is now the guy and they, they reveal this.
It's the opening sequence.
I'll tell you.
I mean, it's, it's pretty cool.
Uh, the Falcone son is now in charge and they, they do a quick like newsreel of him being
like, Oh, he's this playboy.
He's got alcohol and addiction problems and he's like this playboy, but now he's in charge

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of, of the new crime family and this and that and the third, and he goes to, to meet the
Penguin and he catches the Penguin in the act of him being, of him ripping them off
and getting this blackmail folder of all these senators and mayors and the Penguin.
The one thing you learn about this character, which is the Penguin.
Yeah.
The Penguin who is unrecognizable.
Colin Farrell.
He's really good in this role.

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He's really, really good in that.
Cause I want to talk about his makeup job.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Um, he, you learn very quickly.
He's very good at talking and squirming his way out of things.
Yeah.
You learn it very quick and uh, ultimately they, he, he chops it up with the guy.
He kind of flips on, on Falcone son to be like, Hey, yeah, this is actually yours.
And I just want you to know I'm the guy.
If you need something, your dad, you know, all these jewels that were in here.

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I didn't want these thieves to come rip you off.
So I got you these jewels and really he's got the blackmail folder with them.
Right.
And so he kind of, he kind of weasels out of that one.
They ended up getting drunk and whatever.
He's like, Oh, I'm off the wagon.
He's like, ah, booze don't count.
Very manipulative.
So he gets drunk and he ends up the opening before the credits roll is, uh, Falcone son,

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I forget his name ends up laughing at the penguin was just like, you're not, you're
nothing.
Like you're, you're just some Weasley, whatever.
And he's, and he laughs at him.
Penguin pulls out a piece and plugs them about five, six times.
Bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, opening sequence.
And so it's a smash cut to credits.
Yeah.
Well, it's not quite it.
He, he does that.
And then it's him going like, Oh, fuck him recognizing.

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He just acted very rashly in this decision in that moment.
So it really, and that's where it picks up.
And then so it's his power vacuum and him starting to pin, uh, him starting to pin all
the other family or pit all the other families against each other.
And it's kind of cool.
And it's only episode one, but I gotta say they, they set the table pretty well.

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If there's one, as long as they don't overstay the welcome on this one, they got me, but
I did want to talk about before we get into the unrecognizable actor of Colin Farrell,
who shout out to him has a son that has Angelman syndrome as well.
Oh really?
Yeah.
And it is dear to our hearts here at what you've been watching always.
Yes sir.
Yes.
But, um, Kristen Melody plays Falcone's daughter, which I forget the character's name, but she's

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in the long Halloween and, um, dark victory.
Oh, the one of the Falcone kids and she, Michael Kristen Melody is captivating in this.
She plays fresh out of Arkham unhinged with finding out that maybe her brother has passed
away.
Maybe he hasn't.
Maybe she's got some questions for the penguin.
Maybe her dad does, or whoever's in charge of the family now wants to edge her out.

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And Michael, she is like, you, you never, is she lulling you to a sense of security,
but you can tell no matter what she is unhinged.
And I gotta say underrated performance of the week.
It certainly goes out to Kristen Melody.
I was, I'm in it for her and not, and that's so, so what is it?
Is it, is it the, is it the performance?

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Is it the characterization?
Is it the like, like, what is it about it?
Like is it the, the, the bubbling under the surface rage?
Is it, is it the way she presents the lines?
Is it, is it that just, just the air of, of like, oh, this character is important.
Like it's honestly, it's a little bit of everything, but Michael, the eyes, she go, they never

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lie.
No, that's what it is.
Got the crazy eyes.
She does.
And she has that well.
And she just, there's like this, and listen, I don't want to hear about like, Oh, fucking
that's misogynist.
Like there's some women that got crazy eyes.
There's some men that got crazy.
So like, let, we all know what we're talking about.
It's not necessarily like dedicated to like, just because she's a woman, it's like some

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people you look at them and you just get a chill.
You're like, I don't trust that motherfucker.
It's like saying that Willem Dafoe wanted to play unhinged.
You'd be like, yeah, there's something in the eyes.
I don't trust that.
You know, it's not, it's not an answer.
I don't even mean the smile and the face and the everything.
I didn't take what you were saying as a sexual thing.
No, no, no.
I didn't take this thing or a gender specific thing, but I, yeah.
Thank you for clarifying that though.
It wasn't.

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Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
No, honestly, it's, it's, there's a quiver to her.
It's like, it's almost, she's almost as afraid and she wants to, to be, you can tell she's
not been taken very seriously and she outright says, yeah, I just got out of Arkham.
And one of the first lines that she delivers is like, Oh, I thought you weren't Arkham.
And she just smiles very plight and says, no, I was rehabilitated.

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And it's like from the opening line, you're like, what the, like, where are we going with
this?
Uh, are you truly or what's going on?
And so it's the way she kind of quivers in things, the way that she's so unsure about
the scenario that's presented without giving the plot away.
Okay.
The way that like she presents information and the way that she kind of being told that

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you're crazy.
A lot of times when you know for a fact, something's not adding up, but it's easy to just go, ah,
she's crazy.
You can tell that's been bothering her for a long time and she wants the gaslighting
or the, like the, the, not necessarily the patriarchy of it all, but just the light.
There's definitely some of that in the, in the mafia.
Good.
Oh yeah.
Yeah.

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But you can tell that she wants to be heard.
And so it's the delivery of such things.
It's very interesting.
And so I underrated performance of the week, Kristen Malati for sure.
So check that one out.
I will review it.
I'll try to remember when the whole thing comes out, but uh, for the first episode,
I will give it a from Batman 66.

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I've got you now, Batman.
Oh, there's also a lot of Easter eggs.
I shout out to Burgess Meredith.
There's a, a Burgess, one of the jewelers that they go to is Meredith Burgess.
Yeah.
That's one of the jewelers that they go to that they run by or like pawn shop or whatever
is called Burgess.
Oh, big shout out.
That's awesome.
Oh, you wanted to talk Colin Farrell though.
Yes.

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His makeup job and his character work in that, especially in the Matt Reeves version, if
you didn't tell me that that was Colin Farrell, I would never have guessed it.
I would have, I would have absolutely like, I almost wish that they didn't put his name
on the poster so that it would have generated buzz amongst the like conscientious movie

(28:30):
watchers to been like, who was that guy?
What was his deal?
Like who was guy playing the penguin?
Oh, that was Colin Farrell.
Excuse me.
You're right.
What?
No, he, he crushes.
He continues to crush.
You can tell why they, I mean, you need a big name to pull something like this off.
It could have just been another cash grab spinoff going like, Hey, we're going to flesh

(28:52):
out this Batman universe.
Cause that movie made a fair amount of money.
That was what I, that was my main concern with when I heard about this was like, Oh,
they're just trying to like do another Matt Reeves movie without doing a Matt Reeves movie
or follow the thing, the Cardinal sin that I had with the, the, the Gotham series where
it was like, we're going to do Batman, but we're never going to actually show Batman.

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I don't mind at this point.
I'm I'm interested.
It's a good, it does the thing we like in comic book movies.
It's a good crime family drama that just happens to have characters from the Batman saga.
So if Batman never shows up, if, if you feel his influence or whatever, I'm fine with that.
I think that would probably be good for them.
And if they start to move later on being like, we can't make too much noise as Batman character,

(29:41):
you know, there's a reason there's a scene that should take place at night, but they
don't do it for a reason because who hunts at night and you have to be real sharp to
pick up and like, why didn't they just, I'll give you a hint.
It's a dead body.
Got you.
Why don't they act at night?
Oh yeah.
All right.
Cause at night there's a big, there's a big f*****g bat signal in the sky and he's always

(30:02):
watching.
Yeah.
And he's like, well his, and they don't even mention it, but you're just kind of wondering
like why, if he's so pressed to do this, like, and he goes, lays low for awhile and he does
all this other stuff and it's interesting.
And I noticed it when I was like, why?
And yeah, it kind of played into it.
And so if you feel the impact of Batman being out and about, then I think the show is going

(30:25):
to work really well.
Awesome.
That's, that's a really good subtle move on the, on the part of the, the creators in terms
of like, we're not going to show Batman, but you're going to feel Batman.
Yeah.
Like that, that, that's good.
I appreciate that.
Yeah.
I got to check that out.
Yeah.
It's definitely worth the watch.

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I would get in on the ground floor on this one or you can wait till the end and probably
get spoiled for you.
I will probably just binge it at the end, but that's just how I consume all media now.
Now, Colin Farrell so weasely in this and he's, it's so, it's a very different take
on the penguin.
Like obviously just him being tall and not, but like there's little subtle things that
they do.
We still has a, I don't know if this term is, I don't mean in any hurtful way, but he

(31:06):
has like a club foot or whatever.
So he still kind of waddles a little bit.
You know, we still kind of like, uh, not quite, I don't know.
He's just so slimy and smarmy in this and the, the, you know, they put the prosthetics
on him and he's got the jowls and the, like the, the bullfrog neck and he's, he's got
the hook nose and the like, but it's not, it's not like Danny DeVito, like cartoonish

(31:30):
over the top.
Like he looks like how a guy might really look and you might also be like, oh yeah,
but he also kind of looks like a penguin, right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's, I mean, and Danny DeVito was great as penguin, but like for that project, like it,
but it called for a different thing, right?
But he was designed to be like straight out of the comic books.
Like we want you to be a penguin.

(31:51):
Right.
Yeah.
This one is as opposed to just like, it's just a moniker or just like a, like a nom
de plume or a, like a name de plume.
Ooh, Trish, you spoke French.
Yeah.
Definitely check it out though.
Okay.
What do you, what do you, what do you rate it?
You just wanted to hear me do that again.
I know.

(32:12):
I know.
All right.
Well, we're going to take a break and we're going to come back with a, it is a list season.
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All right, well, we are going to, as mentioned before, it is a list season and what my brother
and I have done is, uh, you can tell by the title of this particular podcast, we have
come up with seven, I guess categories you could say, seven topics as it were, and seven

(33:49):
lists seven.
Yes.
Seven individual lists, five numbered in each.
Yes.
So we came up with seven categories and, uh, as, as it is very popular to do, you'll hear
often people go top five MCs, top five blank of all time.
We're going to hit you with our top five of a lot of different categories because it's

(34:09):
episode 75.
Get it?
It's our seven top five.
There you go.
Hey guys, guys, you get it a little on the nose.
We pre-plan this.
So they can't all be mindless ramblings.
Yeah.
So like I said, where they could, but we got the hurricane bearing down on us though.
We were like, let's just, you know, let's do something fun.
A little bit lighthearted that people can play along at home.

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Now when I, we say this all the time, but we really do want you to write us in.
Um, if you ever think of a topic that you want to know our top five on, we don't have
to make a whole episode of it, but we love doing this.
Absolutely.
And we do want y'all to know that, uh, when we do these lists, um, much like we do with
the bracket busters, we don't just Google time magazine or rolling stones, top this.

(34:54):
These are personal to us.
So we're very personal.
So these are not necessarily saying these are the best.
These are just our favorite because it would be no fun for us to play like we do with the
bracket busters and go, what's the best movie of the nineties?
And then just scroll a bunch of websites to find the general consensus.
Like, Oh, Hey, it's, it's Forrest Gump or Oh, Hey, they say it's pulp fiction.
And then just work around to get to that point.

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Sometimes it ends up being those things.
Um, but we come about it honestly.
Sure.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And so when we're researching the list, it's because we're pulling from our own personal
experiences, our own, you know, like the, the things that grab us, the things that draw
our attention, which may or may not line up with your personal opinions or facts and figures,

(35:40):
but fuck you do your own podcast.
We also just don't want to be so against the grain that it's like, we're allowed to like
things that are popular.
Agreed.
If somebody's like, Hey, what's your favorite Metallica song?
Like, Oh, inner sand, man.
You don't go, Oh God, they have such better songs.
Maybe they do.
Maybe like that song is still played on the radio today, but for that reason, it's a pretty
good song.

(36:01):
Yeah.
So don't get off your high horse if you judge us for our selections, but we do want to hear
from it.
Uh, please write in, uh, you'll hear the categories here.
We'll summarize them in the end, but if you ever have a topic, you go like, Hey, what are
y'all's top five, uh, movie crushes.
Let's just, we're not using that one today, but send us in what we'd love to sound off
on it.
Right.
So Adieu, uh, I've bumped my gums enough.

(36:22):
Adieu.
Adieu, um, with Denis Velleneu.
Patent pending on that.
Further Adieu with Denis Velleneu.
That would be a great podcast.
Great podcast.
I would love to host that.
Patent pending.
No, it's all shit.
Um, without further ado, um, we are going to, uh, sound off on our first, first topic
and Michael, I'm gonna let you start us off here.

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Number one is our top five action sequences of all time.
Okay.
I'm gonna run us over on this one.
This was a tough one for me.
See it was for me as well.
Not because I had trouble thinking of action sequences, but I really had a problem trying
to narrow it down to my top five because I didn't want to just do straight martial arts

(37:10):
films because as much as I love martial arts films, it's very easy to fall into the, to
the trap of like, and then that part was awesome.
Right.
When he punched that guy, like I tried to find my fight sequences that has some sort
of meaning, some sort of new way of looking at something or something I'd never seen before.

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Um, well the topic is also not top five fight scenes.
It's action sequences.
Sure.
So you saw fast and furious too.
And you're like, when Paul Walker jumped that bridge and that skyline, that was my shit.
Like that's an action sequence.
You're allowed to like, it was in the two by the way, it was in fast and furious too.
Too fast, too furious.
When he jumps the skyline.
Yeah.
He's in the skyline where they elevate the bridge against the pink car.

(37:54):
Oh yes.
Yes.
Yes.
You're right.
Rest in peace, John Singleton.
I remember buddy.
That's right.
Also rest in peace, John or Paul Walker.
Yeah.
Not John Walker.
Sorry Bootsy.
Um, so yeah, so again, without a, go ahead and let them know your top five action sequences,
not necessarily fight scenes.
So and let's keep it to five.

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We'll do the honor honorable mentions at the end, but let's keep it to five.
All right.
So without a doubt, the best action sequence I have ever seen has to be saving private
Ryan the storming Normandy beach scene.
Um, so emotionally gripping.
We know everything we need to know about the main protagonist just based on his reactions.

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Like for the most part, Tom Hanks throughout that entire scene spends it hiding and running
for cover and, um, not necessarily fearful, but he's trying to be tactful.
He's trying to be cognizant of the danger around him and make the best move possible.

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And yet around him, he's witnessing just death and destruction and you know, just the randomness
of violence and war, you know, it makes no sense that the guy next to him gets shot in
the head.
Meanwhile, he's three inches away and safe or, or, you know, the, the, the, the drop

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doors on the, on the, on the boats or the beach landers drop and automatically in front
of him, he just sees 12 people wiped out by German, German machine gunfire.
Yeah.
And seeing his reaction to that and, and, and it really weighs on him for the rest of

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the movie of what is the weight of a human life.
And I think that's something that within the opening sequences, although it's glorious
and gory and visceral and you know, you're sitting there in your chair, dodging bullets
as they're whizzing by your head, you still get to understand who this guy is.

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And I think in order to convey that emotion in such a dramatic and hyperbolic situation
says a lot.
No, that's, that's a no arguments here.
That's that deserves to be on anyone's top five.
Let's see after that, um, I have on Bach.

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Oh, which part?
So the opening sequence where they're having the tree climbing, uh, competition where it's,
it's all the, all the men in the village, uh, have painted themselves and they're climbing
the tree to, I think they're trying to retrieve some sort of flag or, or like marker or something
like that.
Yeah.

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I don't remember exactly what flag exactly like a bandana or something tight, tight around
the top branch.
Right.
And just seeing Tony jaw as he jumps from limb to limb all nimbly bimbly like drinking
saucers of milk.
Um, but yeah, like just seeing people getting kicked off of branches and then the camera

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will cut to them hitting every branch on the way down.
Just bam, bam, bam, bam.
Almost like a, like a Chuck Jones cartoon where they fall from like awning to awning
or something like that, you know, like, but you understand that and you, you see that
these are people taking the impact.

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There's there's very little room for error.
There's there's very little like, like in a weird way, it's just like, Oh, we're just
going to kick you off a tree and you're going to fall and we're going to film it.
And the stunt, what they did and the stunt person is just like, great.
Make sure you get in a single shot and you're getting one take on this.
No, that's a great, see, I'm surprised.

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There's other things in on Baca I thought would have topped that, but either way it's
keep going though.
But just the, the innovation of just seeing it's not necessarily a fight scene, but it's
a competition.
Like, it's almost like witnessing like football or, or, or rugby or something like that in,
in HD and S and slow motion, you know, like just seeing the contact and the, the, the

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different elements at play and seeing how each person tries to best the other.
And then of course, you know, Tony job stands victorious above it and wraps the, the red
bandana around his, his form is like, I win.
Yeah, no, that's a good one.
So my next selection number two would be that's his three, right?

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Oh yeah.
On Baca saving for a run.
Right.
My next selection would be the movie rain of fire.
Christian Bale.
What's his name?
Woody Harrelson.
Matthew McConaughey.
Yeah, sorry.
Sorry.
Yeah.
That's all fire.
All fire.

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All fire.
Which part?
The scene where they take the helicopter and they have the, the parachute jumpers take
down the dragon with a big like steel net.
Basically that is a pretty rad sequence.
Right?
That is pretty bad.
Talk about an original movie.
That's certainly one of them.

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It's not a great movie.
It's cool though.
It is very cool.
It is very cool.
And, and particularly the scene where you feel the, the, the dread and the anticipation
and the, the, it's like, it's like they're sitting in the boat getting ready to go to
war and you feel everybody's anxiety of anything could go wrong at any point, you know?

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Like they know what the mission is and yet there are so many factors that if the slightest
things goes wrong, they're all dragon food.
They just get burned alive or eaten or, or smashed into the ground, which by the way
happens to each one of them in the movie.
Yeah.
So it's, I also like how calculated they are.

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I think they know you hear this a lot in football and like the little pregame hype up speeches
that pick your favorite player probably does like check your box, check your box.
If you do your job, we all walk out, you know, our chances of winning this are, but you got
to check your box kind of thing.
It's very military in terms of like, this is my duty.
This is my responsibility.
This is my station.
And that's a great call.
I didn't think about that movie at all, but, and then you have the, the, the risk of, of

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you know, the dragon comes in behind the, the helicopter and is trying to bite it and
they're bumping into each other and trying to escape each other.
Like it's just, it's a great high tension scene.
And honestly, again, it's one of those things I've never seen that particular sequence in
any other movie.
Yeah, no, that's a great pull.

(44:56):
Great pull.
I was number four on the list.
Let's see.
Number four would be, um, let's see.
Oh, here we go.
Enter the dragon.
No, we were going to have some.
Okay.
Good.
Well, my scene is when Lee escapes from the underground base where he sets the Cobra at

(45:21):
in at the, the people looking at the monitors and then proceeds to fight his way out.
And he just collects like all of a sudden he has a staff.
Then he has two sticks and then they gave him the nunchucks.
Like, you know what I almost wrote for one of mine is any Bruce Lee scene that he gets
the nunchucks.
Agreed.
No, I'm glad you said that though, cause I actually like that.
I like the tension of the mirror fight scene with Mr. Hand.

(45:44):
Sure.
But I like the action of the other one more.
So that's a good pull.
That's a good pull.
Well, and it, it, it gives Bruce Lee a good opportunity to show off all of his skills.
You know, I almost put down the Coliseum fight from, put a pin in that.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
Yeah.

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Like I said, we'll throw out our honorable mentions afterwards, but yeah.
Okay.
Um, that's good.
I think that's good.
Yeah.
Just, just seeing Bruce Lee accumulate all of the weapons he needs to demonstrate all
of his skills.
Like it's, it's maybe not convincing, but it's awesome to see.
It's like the scene in pineapple express where they're walking by and they're like, Hey,
AK 47.
So they just pick them up.
Right.

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Of course they're here.
Right.
Exactly.
Exactly.
Yeah.
Uh, let's see.
I think my last one is going to have to go to, and this might be a little bit of a cheat,
but it's going to go to daredevil season one, episode two, the hallway fights.
Oh, that's a good poll where it's just one long continuous cut, uh, like uncut shot of

(46:48):
Matt Murdock dressed in ninja gear, just kicking the living shit out of people.
It's an all timer.
I, I almost put another movie that has a great hallway fight scene, but I think we can both
agree that the daredevil hallway fight scene and another movie, which will be in my honorable
mentions, the raid hallway fight scene.

(47:09):
Okay.
Both owe a lot to the movie old boy for sure.
So I would have put old boy in just, but it's not my personal favorite, but it deserves,
you know what I mean?
I agree.
I almost put that in there as well.
I've never seen old boy, but I've seen that fight scene on YouTube or whatever.
Yeah.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah.
No, that one deserves to be up there, but it's yeah.
So I think they all owe a lot to that movie, but that's a good list.

(47:30):
Recap it real quick.
So let's see.
So we've got saving private Ryan, the Normandy scene.
Okay.
We've got, uh, on Bach, the tree climbing competition, daredevils season one, episode
two, we've got rain of fire where they take down the dragon via paratroopers.
Great list.

(47:51):
Phenomenal.
Proud of every single one of those.
I liked the rain of fire.
That's a really good pull.
I forgot about that sequence.
It's an all time classic.
So anybody that knows me, here's my top five list of the top five action sequences of all
time.
I bet you could probably see this first one coming.
Okay.
And all I have to say is the lobby scene in the matrix.
In the matrix.
It is one of the all time great action sequences of all time.

(48:13):
You can hate the matrix sequels all you want that shit rules.
Yes.
And it changed the face of cinema.
It ends with him doing bullet time on the roof and then doing a daring escape.
Do something about it.
It's brilliant.
It's a brilliant sequence.
Top of bottom.
Literally changed the face of how action sequences were done for the next decade, decade and

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a half, two decades.
Easy.
So that one I don't need to get too much into.
We've talked about that a thousand times.
My number two is going to be Avengers Infinity War.
And it is kind of split because of the way that they shoot both of them.
It is when Thanos is fighting one team on Titan and then the other sequence that is

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going on is the siege of Wakanda that ends with Thor landing in and being like, give
me that off.
Gotcha.
Yeah.
Okay.
Those sequences are brilliant, especially when you finally, cause we saw Dr. Strange
be Dr. Strange in the first movie and he wasn't, he didn't end that movie at the height of
his powers.
The next time we see this guy, he's throwing out crazy spells.

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That's fighting.
Like he's fighting Thanos one on one for a minute with the power, uh, with the Infinity
Gauntlet on.
Obviously not fully fueled.
He's absorbing fire, shooting it back at Iron Man, Spider-Man swinging around, jumping through
portals.
It is everything I wanted in a splash page comic book and it is masterfully done.
It is so good.
I'll tell you what, I'll tell you the scene that, that hooked me on that entire movie

(49:40):
was Thor gets thrown across the way and Thanos is pushing the axe into his chest and then
they smash cut to Mjolnir.
Oh, that's in game.
That's in game.
Oh, right.
That, that almost made the list too.
When cat picks up Mjolnir.
Yes.
It was a tough between it, but I'm so thankful that like we talk about movie experiences.

(50:05):
I'm so glad that I saw that with a crowd of like live people who had not seen the movie
before lost their minds when he picked up and all, all it happened was you just, they
smash cut to just Mjolnir just jiggles a little bit and everybody goes, Oh, no, that's in
game though.

(50:25):
And that, that deserves to be on the list, but I mentioned that movie later.
So we're going to save off on that.
But no, I went with the Avengers infinity war attack on Titan or Thanos on Titan.
Okay.
All right.
Number three is going to be a movie I've mentioned a lot of times as well and is going to be
Leon the professional and it is going to be the scene at the very end where the SWAT team

(50:45):
storms the building and it ends with him giving Gary Oldman the ring trick for Matilda.
I love that sequence the first time I saw him drop down from the ceiling upside down
and yielding two pistols was my day.
I was like, Oh, he duped him, he duped him and he's, and then he would close the door
and everyone would come into the building and they couldn't find man that I love that

(51:08):
sequence.
But they also do the thing that I love in action sequences and they pick this up in
like the raid and Judge Dredd or whatever we're like, he's literally walking his way
through floor by floor and he's getting shot and he's getting beat up and like you see
the wear and tear on his body.
And so by the time he finally reaches Gary Oldman where all he has left is like, I've

(51:31):
got one grenade and this is for Matilda.
Yeah.
Well, at the end of that, it's the opposite and everyone's coming up to him, but he's
still taking, taking rounds.
Sure.
You know, he's still getting beat up in the apartment building he's in, but by the end
when he switches the suit and puts on the SWAT team and he almost makes it out of the
front door and then Gary Oldman realizes who it is and shoots him.

(51:51):
And then he's like, we're not going out like that.
It's brilliant, man.
I love that sequence.
I can watch it all day, any day.
So that's a good one.
That's a good poll.
I, I gotta give respect to Jean Reno in that one.
His side.
Yeah.
Um, so my, the next movie, number four on my list, all time action sequences, every,
if you like the dark night, if you like the town, if you like certain things, you owe a

(52:13):
lot to this movie and that is Michael Mann's classic heat.
Um, not the opening sequence where they flip the, the, uh, the armored vehicle, but the
bank high scene.
Oh my God, how did I miss that?
It is all time.
How did I miss that masterpiece of special recognition, knowing where every character
is, what they're doing in the background as they advance as one unit.

(52:36):
And everybody looks cool.
Like they're all dressed in the suits and they got Val Kilmer, like just hair flown
in the breeze, just shooting like a, like a M 16 or whatever.
They've imitated that scene.
Like I said, in the dark night in the town in grand theft auto games.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That changed everything in terms of a bank.
I, so gotta give a big shout out to heat the bank.

(52:58):
I seen and that's a good one.
That's a good poll.
I appreciate that.
I'm so, I'm so, so mad that I missed that one.
Yeah.
It was right there in front of me.
I know, man.
You gotta have Valley Kilmer's on the mind at all time.
And my last one is one that we, I exonated Michael talking about.
Um, there was a movie called the way of the dragon with Bruce Lee.
Uh huh.

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And at the very end he fights Chuck Norris in the Roman Coliseum.
I like that scene a lot.
Here's, here's my thing.
I like that scene a lot too.
The only reason I put the, uh, Bruce, the enter the dragon scene above that one is because
I think in order to really appreciate the Coliseum scene, you gotta watch it with me

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or you.
It's, it's kind of like a ladies man situation.
Like we make that scene so much better by talking about like how Chuck Norris had to
custom make a chest hair curler in order to get his perfect perm.
It's a true story in a big documentary I made up in my mind.
No, see the problem is that people are watching Bruce Lee during that fight scene.

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You gotta watch Chuck, but also you gotta watch Bruce.
Sure, if you can figure it out, we'll appreciate that scene.
I mean, I agree.
I think that I just like it.
There's something, it has a special place in my heart and I just, it's so wacky and
over the top and it's the zoom ins are hilarious.
And when he finally best Chuck Norris and the look on his face of just like, I've killed

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a man that I respect in battle.
It's dope.
So I gotta admit, my favorite part is when he chest grabs Chuck Norris and just pulls
out his chest hair and then like blows it in the wind, like we had to, Chuck was besting
him.
And also ultimate disrespect because Chuck Norris had to build a chest hair curler.

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It was premeditated.
All right, cool.
So out a couple of honorable mentions.
We got a lot of ground to cover.
I'll just start a couple of mine.
Mad Max Fury Road is gotta be on the list.
I'm sure you probably got it on yours too, right?
I do.
That is my honorable mention is the, uh, the dust cloud scene.
Phenomenal.
Yeah, that's a great, great action sequence.

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It's so frenetic and so all over the place.
Like every, every 10 seconds you're going like, what the fuck is happening?
But in the best way.
Yeah, that's, that deserves to be on there for me.
I got the raid, the hallway fight, and there's a scene that Donnie in does at the end of
this movie called kill zone.
I fully recommend you watch it.

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You can just watch it on YouTube.
It's him and his sparring partner going back and forth.
One has a knife, one has a steel baton and it, they fight so fast that it sounds like
somebody threw forks in a blender.
It's just really, it's incredible.
Yeah.
What's it called?
Uh, it's called kill zone.
Okay.
It's dope.
Yeah.
I'm surprised.
Big shout out to Indiana Jones, the opening sequence and also I'm surprised star Wars.

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The trench run didn't get on there.
Deserve both of them deserve it, but both of them do, but I was trying in my opinion,
I was trying to go for a something a little bit more off beat.
No, I hear you.
I hear you, but those are hits for a reason.
All right.
We are going to move on to category two real quick is we got a lot of ground to cover my
friend.
Sure.
And, um, so the next category we decided we wanted to tackle is our top five most visually

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stunning films or movies.
Cause we're not hoity toity.
Right.
You want me to fire this one off or go ahead.
Okay.
Number one, I could have put a lot of this dude's movies on there.
Um, plus it's got the all time wall of famer Jeremy Renner.
I had to go with arrival.
Oh, that movie is sweeping and beautiful and that has imagery in which I've never seen

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before in a movie and it's one of the best alien contact movies.
But even if you just take that out and just look at the pretty images on screen, all timer.
Okay.
Okay.
And these are a no particular order.
Sure.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So number two, I gotta go with it.
The master himself, yo, when paying when he was flying on all cylinders, crouching tiger

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hidden dragon.
That's a good one.
Not just the action sequences are visually stunning.
That's why I didn't put it in the other one.
Cause I was more wowed by that, which the action sequences are brilliant, but just the
whole flight and just the way that everything shot is, it's an incredible.
Yeah.
I, I, I gotta admit that one.
It didn't have, it wasn't like I had never seen that type of content before, but it did

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elevate that type of content to a new level and like art form and for sure, for sure.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It took it from like, Oh, these are just some wacky Kung Fu moves to be in.
Like I could believe the fly.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It took the, the, the wire work and, and you know, the, the old school, like 1970s, you
know, Chinese action films and sort of elevated into like, Oh no, this can actually be art.

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This can actually be beautiful.
There's a way to do this and make it look in a way like visually stunning, visually
stunning.
Yeah.
There you go.
Um, okay.
My next one is kind of a cheat code.
You love or hate the movie.
It's a popular choice, but I'm not going to lie.
The first time you see this movie, you can't help but say, damn, that was really pretty

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avatar.
Sorry.
Sure.
Okay.
You gotta see why it's on the list.
For sure.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You can pick it apart all you want.
It broke ground in terms of not just special effects, but just looking at things.
Like I've never seen that before.
Sure.
And, and also in terms of, again, it's, it's, it's James Cameron inventing the technology

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he needs in order to procure his vision.
Yeah.
And so like there, there's a lot of respect to that.
Like, Oh no, this is just how we film mo cap now is like the world of Pandora is rich
and lush and it's, it's beautiful.
Um, number four, Spider-Man into the spider-man.

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Oh, that's a weird pull.
It's not weird.
That's the, that's an interesting poll.
I've never seen animation done in that style before.
Sure.
And where it looks like a comic book.
Yeah, pretty much.
It's, it's just, it's beautiful all the way around.
You could turn the sound off on that movie and just watch it.
And you're just wowed by the colors, the patterns, the fight sequences, the, the camera work.

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It's just, it's, it's entirely unique.
I've never seen anything like it before.
Other movies are beginning to imitate it.
Um, I think Lego movie played a big part in that for sure.
In terms of like, it has a certain style.
Yeah.
But I mean, I think the Lego movie walk so into the spider-verse can run for sure.
Sure.
Um, and the last one, number five on my list is a bit of a cheat because it's a series,

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but I think we'll all agree.
Once I say it, uh, planet earth, the series that was on, I think was on BBC.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
The world by storm.
I know it's a bit of a cheat, but I've never seen when you watch a cheetah run in 60 frame
per second in slow mo, uh, at 4k HD for the first time, you're like, this is incredible.

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Watching a flower bloom overnight.
When they're following gorillas and you can see the sweat perspiring off the gorilla's
forehead as they're like, you know, yeah.
And then of course you get Sigourney Weaver being the, the narrator who just has a beautiful
narration voice and yeah, yeah.
That's a very well put together.
I would agree with that a hundred.

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That's an interesting poll.
I would not have thought of that, but I'm proud that you put that on.
I appreciate it.
Yeah.
I mean, I know it's a bit of a cheat code, but it was so it was like a 10 year undertaking
from to do it.
Like in the effect, like they pulled footage from the bottom of the ocean all the way to
the tops of the mountains.
It's like, this is visually breathtaking.
So big shout out to planet earth and whoever put that in terms of like, I've never seen

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a documentary presented in this way in terms of just sheer beauty and just the expensive
ass cameras and time you put to do this.
I mean, some of those cameras they use are like half a mile away and the lenses they're
using are so like they're zoomed in.
They're locked and they're waiting in these nest just trying to find some rare bird that's
never been photographed.
It's some dude who's sitting in the, you know, the, the Himalayas trying to capture a snow

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leopard and he's been posted up for four days, shitting and eating in the same bucket, right?
You know, like covered in camouflage, like sure hope this fucking leopard comes through
today cause I could use the extra $50,000.
This shot's going to cost me for real, for real.
So yeah, planet earth.
Um, what are your top five visually stunning movies, my friend?

(01:01:25):
Top five visually stunning movies, sir.
I have number one, Mandy, Mandy really?
Okay.
Yeah.
The, the Nicholas cage, uh, cosmos slam, Mopolis.
You know, it's funny.
That's the son of George P Cosmotic and you know what movie he directed cliffhanger tombstone

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and a couple other things.
Yeah.
George P Cosmotic.
That's his kid.
Oh really?
Yeah.
Why I know that.
I don't know.
I'm not surprised.
You know that that tracks.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But yeah, Mandy, um, just in terms of it's like, it's like art brought to life.

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It's it's wild and crazy and visual colors and it's like barely tripping acid and also
trying to follow a revenge story.
And yeah, just psychosexual rampaging maniacs that somehow are also religious iconography.

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And yeah, it's just, I can't describe it.
It's shot kind of like low res in a weird way.
So like the colors bleed through a lot and I, the, the director chose to use like red
for example, but it's shot in 4d.
Yeah, no, I know that.
But I'm saying like red for example, is a hard thing to red bleeds through on every
image.
And he uses a lot of those against like mist and smoke with purple lights as well.

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So they all kind of, it's like almost like somebody dumped over like a thing of watercolor
and it's like, like a little bit, you know what I mean?
Like a smoky background.
It's cool.
So like, like old school, if they were shooting, you know, day for night, they would just put
a blue filter on the camera.
Yeah.
But he doesn't do that.
He just literally uses saturated blue lighting to simulate day for night.

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So not everything is cast in blue, but there's these really harsh, really contrasting blues
and grays and greens and it's still all somehow kind of works.
And then when he gets into the, the, into the, the cult masters den, it's all shot in
reds and orange and blacks and yeah, yeah.

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Like it almost looks like he put Vaseline on the lens, but it's all shot traditionally.
It's all shot just with within the, the, the scene lighting, you know, it, there's no filters.
It's just so well done and such an interesting perspective anyway.
No, no, you're good.
No, no, I liked that Mandy.
I didn't see that one coming.
What else you got for me though?

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What's number two, my friend?
Top five, I'm going to go, of course a classic Steven Spielberg, Jurassic park.
Oh yeah.
Say no more.
Say no more.
I mean, it revolutionized computer generated imaging.
It, it revolutionized the blockbuster as only the master could.

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Yeah.
The guy who set what a blockbuster could be, of course he has to be the one to revolutionize
it.
So, yeah, no, we don't gotta spend a bunch of time on JP baby.
That's, that's yeah.
Check that box for sure.
Wow.
All the way around.
Yeah.
In terms of just visual, you can plot whatever, take all that out.
It's incredible.
Incredibly visual.
Yeah.

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Uh, and then tying into that, I'm going to also say 2001, a space Odyssey, mad props.
That's the original.
That's exactly, yes.
Talking on that a little bit because I've, I'm, I've seen that movie for like, actually
I don't think I've seen it in its entirety.
If so, I don't remember it.
I mean, it's Stanley Kubrick as, as visually dynamic and weird as the shining was, you

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really got to see what Stanley Kubrick was, was capable of by shooting something in space
in zero gravity.
And the scene where, where, um, Dave is, is running across the, the space station and

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it's perfectly elliptical.
It's perfectly circular and you just see him running on a straight line.
And yet the scenery around him changes and is like on a wheel, you know, like, like it's
so dynamically and visually stunning.
The, the scene where, I mean, of course they see the space baby, the space embryo, whatever,

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you know, like where, where he finally escapes from how and ejects into outer space and finally
witnesses the birth of the universe.
And you're just, you're assaulted by this visual imagery.
You're like, I have no idea what's happening, but it's gotta all be important.
Right?
Like this all means something.
I don't know.
It may be beyond me.

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Like it, it, I'm not smart enough to understand what's happening, but I understand that this
is important.
No, I hear you.
I mean, even just the symmetry uses, that was like his whole signature thing.
Yeah.
There's some on the left or some on the right, you know?
Right.
Right.
No, no.
Good pull, man.
Good pull.

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Was that five already?
Oh, here's one more.
Okay.
Is this your honorable mention or is this five?
No, this is five.
This is five.
Heavy metal.
Oh, nice.
I got to put an animated movie on there.
And I thought long and hard about this one, but I like heavy metal because it's not just
one particular animation style.
It's almost like an anthology.
You get a whole charcuterie board of different flavors and animation styles and voice talents.

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And I think that although it may not be the best plot wise, like they're all tentatively
held together by the-
A green orb?
The Lochnar.
Yeah.
Right, right.
It's just enough to tie you into the stories to understand how they all are or how they

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play into each other.
One story tentatively ties into another based on this loose affiliation.
But I don't know.
Visually it's very cool though.
It is.
It is.
And you get such a dynamic, different stylings and different directors, different art styles.

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Cool.
Well, do you want to throw in your honorable mentions real quick?
Let's see.
My honorable mention would be, oh, this almost made the list and I'm not sure if it qualifies,
but the mask.
That counts.
How they turned Jim Carrey into a living cartoon.

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Like in Ace Ventura, he was a man emulating a cartoon.
Acting cartoonish.
Sure.
Cartoonish.
Yeah.
But in the mask, they literally just turned Jim Carrey into a cartoon.
He literally turns into the Chuck Jones wolf and does the wolf whistle.
He's spinning around as a tornado.

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He turns into Cuban Pete.
I like the idea of a man living his fantasy and his fantasy is, well, I just want to be
a cartoon.
Yeah.
Me too, buddy.
Me too.
Yeah, and mine, I guess, would say just honorable mentions real quick.
Secret Life of Walter Mitty.

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I love that movie.
That's a great one.
Anything that Denis Villeneuve does, for some reason that guy just sings to me.
Anything that Roger Deakins happens to be the cinematographer of, I probably will like.
You can go through his 16 Academy Award nominations and figure out why.
And then Pirates of the Caribbean, or Caribbean if you want to pronounce it a different way.

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Well, there's a particular sequence, the Moonlight song that they do where Elizabeth Swan realizes
that she's in a nightmare.
You best believe in ghost stories.
You're in one.
That Moonlight sequence is awesome.
Oh yeah, and then they run through the whole song where it's like they're basically swapping
the deck and hauling the sails and as the moon passes over them, they turn into zombies

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and stuff.
Yeah, I dig that.
I really like that sequence a lot.
Okay, we're going to keep pushing forward.
We have our top five directorial debuts.
Why don't you fire us off there, buddy?
Top five directorial debuts.
I mean, obviously my number one, you can probably already guess it.
Go ahead.
Kevin Smith, Clerks.
Okay, I got it.

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Sentence or two on it?
I mean, it changed my life and made me involved in movies and made me really want to understand
how they work and the creation thereof and sort of every aspect.
So just from a nostalgic point of view, it means that movie means a lot to me.
But also, Clerks was kind of the nascent impetus of the indie director of the nineties.

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I mean, you could maybe say Quentin Tarantino started off, but I think that Kevin Smith
was the one that like set the bottle rocket off as it were.
I agree with that.
I agree with that.
Yeah, that's a good poll.
I think that was going to be on your list, though.
Yeah.
So speaking of bottle rockets.
Okay.
I'm going to say bottle rocket by Wes Anderson.

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Yeah.
Yeah.
Again, he almost made one of my visually stunning lists.
Just go ahead.
Yeah, yeah.
Go ahead.
No, bottle rocket by Wes Anderson is a good one.
In a weird way, I think it's the least Wes Anderson movie in terms of he's not quite
so kitschy and quirky and he hasn't quite established this is a Wes Anderson movie.

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But there are elements there.
Yeah.
No, I agree.
Like you see how it's going to go.
Once he got a little money, his vision became a little more clear.
Absolutely.
Once he got his own studio backings a little bit more.
But he proved he knew what he was doing.
He was very competent.
Yeah.
Very competently directed.
Really good script too by Owen Wilson.
Yeah.
Oh, that was written by Owen Wilson.
That's right.
That's right.
Good.

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A little movie trivia for you.
That's right.
All right.
What else you got?
Number three.
Number three, I'm going to go with, and this might be a little bit of a cheat because it's
not technically his first movie.
Bending rules.
But it was his first main release movie.
OK.
George Romero's Night of Living Dead.
That counts.
Yeah.
I mean, what I was going to say, it established a whole zombie genre that still stands strong

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to this day.
So hell yeah.
No, that's got to be on the list.
It's an all timer.
And he made how many sequels on it?
You know, Dawn of the Dead, Day of the Dead, Land of the Dead.
Yeah.
Built a franchise on it, man.
Yeah.
I mean, all right.
No, I mean, no arguments on my end.
That's a great directorial debut.
Let's see.
This is four or five.

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One, two.
Oh.
American Graffiti.
Oh, George Lucas.
George Lucas.
Never seen it, actually.
It's a pretty good movie.
It's very much in the vein of like Dazed and Confused.
But whereas Dazed and Confused was the last day of summer before people enter their senior

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year of high school in the 70s, this is the last year of senior or the last the first
day of summer after people graduate going into college in the 50s.
So it's you know, do I join the military?
Do I join the my my father's factory?
Do I whatever?
Still very much the same vein, but just a little bit little a little askewed.

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American Graffiti.
I got you.
Yeah, I got you.
Cool.
That's a good one.
They bring in not Ron Howard.
They bring in Harrison Ford.
They bring in you know, like it's a variable who's who, as it were.
It is.
It is.
Nice.
And I think it's a really, really cleverly and well shot movie.
Like it has a few minor flaws in terms of characters and whatnot.

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But I think in terms of what's on screen and how it's shot, it's pretty well done.
American Graffiti.
There it is.
I wish the last one or was that five?
Start saying them off so I can remember.
That's right.
So let's see.
I had Kevin Smith, Wes Anderson, George Romero, American Graffiti.

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And then what's number five?
Number five.
I'm going to go with Sam Raimi.
Evil Dead.
Oh, fuck.
Yeah, it's all timer, man.
I know he shot like even lower budget things like with a handy cam and stuff before that,
but none of that counts.
Oh, no, no.
But Evil Dead is his first.
But even then it was it was him and Bruce Campbell were like were partners in this,

(01:13:54):
right?
Yeah, exactly.
Exactly.
And and he didn't shoot Evil Dead thinking it was going to get picked up like that was
the ultimate goal in terms of like this would be great, but he never really thought it was
going to happen.
And then it happened.
And so just to be thrust into the limelight and then to build a career on that in terms
of the Spider-Man movies and Drag Me to Hell and, you know, Doctor Strange to Doctor Strange,

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you know, very well.
Yeah, yeah.
And and I think that movie really gives a good sense of his directorial style.
I think that if you watch a Sam Raimi movie, it's very obvious he has a certain.
He likes certain shots.
He likes certain camera angles.

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He likes certain certain developments.
Yeah, certain cars.
No, I got you.
No, he certainly has a signature style very early on.
All right.
My top five directorial debuts.
I'm going to I'm just going to fire away here.
OK.
You've never seen this, but Jordan Peele get out.
I was impressed in the fact that if you started to watch some of the later key and Peele episodes,

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he always had a twist on.
And sometimes it worked to the detriment of the show because you'd be like, all right,
the comedy was it ended here and then I'll just throw one more thing in there just to
be like that was just ended on a weird note.
Sure.
But it just proved that he really translated.
He was quietly working on his craft of the genre things in a sketch comedy show and then
unleashed it, which got multiple Oscar nominations and actually won an Oscar.

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Boom.
Like so get out.
It's got to be all time, not just on critics list, but on my list.
Just in terms of a director coming to his own and finally getting to realize his own
vision and firing on all cylinders coming from a key and Peele Comedy Central, like off
the bat.
Yeah.
Like, oh, shit, who is this guy with originality to the second one?

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I'm going to go with talk about this movie.
Not a lot.
Neil Blomkamp, District Nine.
That's a good poll.
That's a fucking really good poll, man.
Actually, he that movie blew me away.
Talk about also that could be in the visually stunning one.
I've never seen anything like that movie.
The style in which he shot this movie.
This movie sings, man.

(01:16:04):
District Nine is a hell of a come out party for somebody, man.
I'll be honest with you.
I would much rather sacrifice the next Pirates of the Caribbean movie just to get a follow
up sequel to District Nine.
Is he shooting the next Pirates movie or something?
I don't know.
Is he?
I don't know.
I don't know where that came from.
I'm just saying, like in terms of franchise, like if I had to make my choices like if I

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get District Ten, I'm for it.
He said he'd come back X amount of years later than that amount of time.
Let's do it.
Oh, it's been more than that amount of time.
Yeah.
All right.
Number three on my list.
I enjoy this kind of movie.
It really launched the snatches of the world and things of that.
Snatches, snatches.
That's going to be Guy Ritchie with Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels.

(01:16:47):
That's a good one.
Yeah.
That's if you haven't seen that, it ends on one of the best cliffhangers ever.
It's a very funny movie.
If you like Snatch, if you like that whole movies like The Gentleman, that's where he
got his footing.
All those crime kind of caper movies.
It really started here.
Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels.
Gotta love it.
True British crime comedy, great dialogue.

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It's really well shot.
It's so cool.
The plot threads moving so you don't forget who's doing what.
Lots of great coverage, which is truly thought ahead of time.
That is actually worth mentioning.
It's almost like Pulp Fiction in terms of as many characters and moving parts as he has
in that movie.
You're never lost in the plot.
You're never lost in like, what the fuck is this person doing here?

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Right.
Yeah.
And he ties it all together very nicely.
Yeah.
Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels.
I'm gonna go with number four is gonna be Ari Aster Hereditary.
That is probably one of my, I think it is now my favorite horror movie of all time.
I'm not a big horror buff so I don't have a huge list.
That movie freaks me out and the fact that it's that dude's first movie I wanna know

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about his trauma, which he then told me about and Beau was afraid.
I just couldn't follow it.
Okay.
And number five is gonna be Robert Eggers, The Witch.
That's a great movie.
That's another very scary movie that again, it's weird that I have three horror movies
on here on a genre I don't really like.
Right.

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But apparently you can just come from any background and write a horror movie if you
know what you're doing and you can knock it out of the park.
I think it's indicative of-
I'm joking.
I'm sure it's a very talented and very difficult craft.
I think it's indicative of you're not satisfied with the run of the mill horror movies, the
jump scares, the slashers, the gore fest.
I think based on that selection of movies, it matters the ambiance, it matters the tenor,

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it matters the-
The tension.
The tension, the tempo, the other T verbs.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I find Zodiac frightening.
Yes.
There's a couple scenes that are absolutely horrifying.
Oh God, yeah.
The cat and mouse of that is horrifying but that's not on the list.
It's not a directorial debut.
So yeah, that's my five.
I got Get Out, District Nine, excuse me, Jordan Peele in Get Out, Neil Blomkamp, District

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Nine, Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels, Guy Ritchie, Ari Aster Hereditary, Robert
Eggers the Witch.
I had Kevin Smith on there but I also got to give a big shout out as an honorable mention
which will be yours right after this.
Robert Rodriguez, El Mariachi.
It's a miracle movie.
That's a good one.
It's like, I mean the rumor of that movie grows that it was all shot on borrowed film
equipment.

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Everything was done in one take.
He wrote it in a weekend, shot it in a weekend, scored it in a weekend, one took it.
So it launched the franchise in Desperado and Once Upon a Time in Mexico.
It's a miracle movie.
Got to give a shout out to that.
What is your honorable mention, sir?
My honorable mention is going to be, I have two.
Obviously we have to throw in Orson Welles and Citizen Kane.

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Yeah, I've never seen it but yes.
I mean, it'd be stupid not to.
Just in terms of A, it's a really well shot movie.
B, I mean it stands the cinematic test of time.
I mean although it may not be one of my favorite films, it's always on the list of the best
films ever made or the top 10 director, actors, whatever.

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So obviously that has to be on there just out of respect for the craft.
And then again, this is going to be a little technical because it's not necessarily his
first movie, but I would say Steven Spielberg's Jaws.
He did do a movie before that, but it wasn't really seen by a lot of people.

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It didn't have a wide release and it was more meant to be a test.
It was one of those things where the studio gave it to him in terms of, okay, if you could
shoot this movie competently, we'll let you do your thing.
It was a bound for the Wachowski Brothers Now sisters at the time.
Sure, right.
I don't know if I count that, but I'll let it slide just because you want to talk about

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Jaws.
You're good.
All right.
Well, we are going to move on to the next category.
Top five dogs in cinema.
Oh, okay.
This is going to be a good one.
Okay.
He says as if he doesn't have his list already prepared.
I know I definitely do.
I do.
That's why I know it's going to be a good one.
So my number one and I think there's going to be some overlap here.

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Probably.
There's only so many dogs in cinema.
I mean, there's a lot, which ones of them are worth it.
Number one, Doug from Up.
That is my number one as well, sir.
Okay.
My number one.
Yup.
Doug from Up is the best boy.
He's so sweet and he's so funny and he's so loving and he's so loyal.
He's everything you want a dog to be.
And he gets the dog.

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He really is in terms of like, he's just generally happy to see his master.
He's generally like, he's always willing to be helpful, he's always effervescent and just
a little bit dim-witted.
Yeah.
But he also wears his emotions on his sleeve or collar.
On his collar.

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That's right.
So you got to love Doug from Up.
Number two, I am going to say you are my, what does he say?
You are my little gentleman.
I will take you to foggy London town.
Of course I'm talking about Baxter from Anchorman.
That's my number two.
Nice.
Nice.
Yeah, Baxter from Anchorman.
The bad man.

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The mean man.
He kicked the Baxter.
Yeah, no.
Baxter.
That was the last cage of immersion.
Baxter is the catalyst of Ron Burgundy's downfall.
So you got to love Baxter.
But even in Anchorman 2 when he carries the shark back to land.
Yeah.
Anchorman 2 is so funny, but it's so dumb and bad at the same time.

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Okay, my number three is I think we are going to start to differ here.
I have, and you can almost, I realize that each one of the movies in this franchise has
a dog that I absolutely love.
But I'm going to go with the dog, the very first dog that meets his end, unfortunately,
in the very first John Wick.
As that dog then sparked a franchise and we are still motivated by that same dog four

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movies later.
So anytime you see a dog in John Wick, even in the second one he has a new dog, which
you don't see him a lot.
The pit bull.
Yeah, the pit bull.
He's like, hey, you're a good boy or whatever.
And he goes to send him to protect him.
He's like, can you watch this dog?
Yeah, he sets him with a Karen.
Yeah, yeah.
And then the third they have Halle Berry's dogs, which are just awesome dogs.
They're the best trained dogs I've ever seen on camera.

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And then John Wick 4, the Frenchman has a dog as well.
And John Wick has a dog too, but the Frenchman has a dog or the hunter has a dog that he
carries with him.
So I'm just going to say the dog from the first John Wick, because that is a dog that
sparks all joy for the dog.
And anytime you see a dog in John Wick, you're like, you better be real careful because this
man has done damage for a lot less than to greater men than you over a dog.

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So three, it's going to be the dog from John Wick.
Number four dog.
This is a tough one to beat the beast from the sandlot.
Oh no.
Yeah, man.
He is an all time.
He's an all time great dog.
He was just misunderstood.
That's right.
But he's the best villain and ends up being, you know, such a pivotal role in that movie.

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He's an all time movie dog scene where he comes up over the fence and eats the ball
like like jaws jumping out of the water.
Yeah, like raw.
And the whole the kids just scream and run.
That movie is incredible.
And he's a major part of why that movie works.
Also shout out to James Earl Jones.
Yeah, rest in peace.
That's right.
James Earl Jones.

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And number five, I got to go with and this is kind of a cop out answer.
One could say Scooby Doo's been in a lot of movies, but I got to go with my man, Joe Cool
himself.
I got to go with Snoopy for real.
I'm a Snoopy guy, man.
I will.
I love Snoopy to this day.
There was a tradition with my far better half, the lovely Angie.
I would give her a Snoopy for every occasion.
So if there was like an Easter, I'd get her a little Easter Snoopy and I'd get a Christmas

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Snoopy and a Halloween Snoopy.
And it may be it's more for me than it is her.
But it was something I did for a long time.
I still think much like Calvin and Hobbes or the Coca Cola, polar bears, like Snoopy's
just always going to be cool to me.
So I'd be remiss if I didn't include him.
Scooby is a good one, too.
But here's Dominatrix Snoopy.
Here's a here's Holocaust Snoopy.

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I doubt they go that far.
But yeah, he's just sad.
That's enough.
We're on a plow head.
Yes.
Yes, he would be sad, Michael.
We're going to leave it there.
All right.
So that's top five.
I got an honorable mention that we can mention afterwards, but I want to step on your toes
about it.
Let's see.
So for mine, we already mentioned Doug.
We already mentioned Baxter.

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The next dog has to be a dog with his name in the movie titles.
Benji.
Oh, yeah.
Did you actually like Benji though, or you just like him?
I mean, that scene in Benji the hunted where he's caring for the cougar cubs and then the
eagle comes by and snatches one of them up and he just looks on forlornly and like tries

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to chase it and like weekly barks.
Oh, dude, like that that dog conveys so much emotion in that scene.
It's a good scene.
He took on a bear.
He did fight a bear.
He fought a bear.
Yeah, Benji's a G.
I'm just saying.
It's like we're doing a Benji.
Right.
He's Ben A.G.
So that's three.

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That's three.
Four.
The two don't officially have names within the within the movie.
OK, good.
But they're both dogs that are names of of reckonants.
OK, are you going to go with the dog from Silence of the Lambs?

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Oh, that would be a good one.
That would be a good one.
Yeah, go ahead, though.
Close.
I'm going to go with the dog from Independence Day.
Oh, that outruns the alien explosion.
Say what you want.
Say what you want.
But rewatch that movie and don't tell me that you're rooting for that dog the entire time.
You're going, come on, boy, make it.

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Make it.
And then when he makes it, you're like, yeah, he's going to work out all right.
Right.
No, that's hilarious.
Jeff Goldblum can get shot in the face as long as that dog makes it.
That's hilarious.
No, that dog books it up for an alien explosion.
It destroys everything else, but this dog can run at just a faster pace than it consistently.
That's all I need.
That's a good boy.

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It's a good pull.
So I was number five, my friend.
Number five is going to be the dog from Mad Max with the with the red bandana, the road
warrior.
Oh, OK.
OK.
You remember when he gets the gyrocopter pilot in the backseat and he's got the dog who's

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he's chewing on a bone that's tied to a string to a shotgun.
Oh, yeah.
And then as he's driving by, he sees a rabbit out of the window and the gyrocopter pilot
looks at him.
It's like, oh, and the dog just kind of looks and looks back at him, looks back and goes
like, I could pull the trigger, but I won't.
But I won't.
Yeah.
Yeah.
No, that is a good scene.

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And then also, again, it's a good boy.
We talked about, you know, the Independence Day dog that made it.
Red Bandana dog does not make it at the end of that movie.
And I was mad.
And I thought, you know what?
I hope Mad Max kills every person in this because fuck you.
Yeah, no, it's fair.
That was good dog.
No, that's that's all fair.
It's the John Wick of it all.
I'm telling you, buddy.

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And that's why you had to throw in the John Wick dog.
I would your honorable mentions.
I got to let's see.
Honorable mention.
I'm going to go with I don't know if I have an honorable mention.
I mean, Lassie, you got an honorable mention.
I mean, yeah, but not.
It's not my.
That movie never really struck with me.
I might go with, oh, I got to Milo and Otis.

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That's a classic.
That would be Otis was the dog, right?
Sure.
Why not?
OK, I was going to go.
My two honorable mentions were Homeward Bound.
Oh, Shadow and Chance.
Yeah.
So and then my other one was the cat's name, Sassy Sassy.
That was what is it?
Whoopie Sally Field.
Oh, no, Sally Field.
Oh, OK.
It's Sally Field, Michael J. Fox and some old guy.

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That was in the Sam Elliott or something.
What's the same?
It might have been.
I don't know.
Somebody with gravitas.
And then sometimes there's a dog.
Yeah.
And then the other one I was going to go with is Sam from I Am Legend.
Oh, yeah, that was a heartbreaker.
That was a heartbreaker.
That's a good dog, though.
Spoiler alert when he had to do what he had to do.
Yeah, it's good dog, though.

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I think a lot of that was more based on Will Smith's reaction, like the look that he gets
on his face when he realizes what's happened to his dog and what he has to do.
And now that he has nothing to live for.
Yeah.
No, that's a great.
The dog is good.
That's a good one.
That's a good one.
For sure.
OK, well, let's move on to our next category.
Then we've done our top dogs.

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You want to move on to let's do this one and I'll let you start us up.
Top five films based in the future.
OK.
See, this one I had a hard time with because when you said this, I thought it had to be
in the future from now.
Nah, nah, no, we did clarify that.

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So it's just a movie that is like, for example, you could use Back to the Future 2, even though
technically the future that they go to is already passed.
Sure.
But it was set in the future.
Like, let's be real here.
Terminator 2 was set.
Like, let's be real.
So my top one, the caveat.
Sorry.

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Yeah, yeah.
So the first one I came up with was Blade Runner 2049.
Oh, damn it.
No, it's a good one.
I can't argue that at all.
Yeah, it's on my list.
And again, I would have put Blade Runner.
But in my mind, when you said it, Blade Runner takes place in, I want to say, 2015, 20, 2019,

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something like that.
Yeah, no, no, no.
I think it's 2015.
So that's why I didn't include it on the list.
So I had to go with 2049.
Although I do think that in terms of visual representation and how cool the future looks,
I think 2049 might edge out the original.
Well, like I said, it's a Roger Deacon movie and a Denis Villeneuve movie.

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So you know how I feel about it.
But yeah, it's on my list too.
So the next one I have is Edge of Tomorrow.
Oh, directed by Doug Lehman.
That's right.
That's right.
His filmography is all over the place.
But good for him for taking the swings.
And admittedly, this one isn't so much the vision of the future in terms of just I think

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it's a cool movie that happens to take place in the future.
Like there's nothing inherently about the technology of the future or the visual representation
of the future that makes it like stunning.
I just think that it's a cool movie.
It's just a cool movie that happens to be set in the future.
Exactly.
Exactly.
So in the same vein, I would also have to put in I, Robot.

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Really?
Not one of my favorite movies.
This is sort of the inverse of Edge of Tomorrow.
But like one of your favorite concepts, though?
I just like the way that the future looks in terms of everything is automated.
Everything is run on artificial intelligence.
Every car is is piloted by artificial intelligence.

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All of the the the factory workers and low level, you know, grocery store workers and
and and trash collectors and all that is just all robots.
But even the robots themselves have a very cool design.
Yeah, they do.
No, it's a very cool vision of the future for sure.
Right, right, right.

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So not not one of my favorite movies, but I like what's presented on screen in terms
of this is the vision of the future.
OK, so next on list would be the fifth element.
And I really might have a little bit of overlap on that.
No, I mean, no, you won't.
Really?

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No, I would have for sure thought that was going to be on your list.
Now we talked about it before.
I like that movie.
To be honest, I think it's a bit overrated and not not saying it's a bad movie.
Every time you say something's overrated, it's like, oh, you think it sucks?
No, I think it's a good movie.
I just don't get the following.
It just didn't hit at the same level that it does with everybody else.
Yeah, I think some people hold that movie and like this super high esteem.

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I think it's fine.
It's entertaining.
It's good.
I just don't.
I'm not like, oh, my God.
I just like the idea of it's interesting.
It's a future America or Earth that is so integrated with other species and like inter
interplanetary travel that it's almost become passe.

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Like it's just sort of it's almost like if you took a flight from, you know, Miami to
Las Vegas, like that's just something that happens every day.
Like people are just like, oh, I'm just going to take a cruise from from Earth to I think
what did they go to Neptune or Pluto or something like that?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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But even then, like it's not a big deal.
It's just like, oh, that's just something that happens all the time now.
Yeah, no, I get it.
I like I mean, again, I like the movie.
It's kind of of course you the mystic in the science a little bit, too.
Yeah.
And then of course, you bring in, you know, the diva and her whole performance.
And I like the idea of when they go to McDonald's, you know, the cops are hyper stylized.

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And the McDonald's girls all have the sexy dresses and like it's all just either violence
or sex sells like it's a pretty dynamic view of the future.
Yeah, no, I get it.
And then of course, you know, Mila Jovovich.
That's yeah.
No, she's let's see.
So that was that was four.
Yeah, five.

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Number five.
I think I'm going to go with Star Trek to Wrath of Khan.
Oh, hell yeah, dude.
That movie rules.
It's I mean, look, we've always joked about it.
If you had to be in the Star Wars universe or you had to be in the Star Trek universe,
we're going to take Star Trek every time.
Why?
It's like money's been abolished.
Right.
Right.
Everything's like your hierarchy of needs is you're pretty much at the top tier.

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All diseases have been eliminated.
It's like you're just thriving at this point as a human.
Like yeah, I'll sign me up for that.
So just that vision of the future alone, I'm all for.
Pinnacle of human achievement.
We're going to go explore the stars as a race, you know, it's dope.
But yeah, it was just a fucking bad ass movie.
Also Ricardo Montalba.
All right.
Well, that's five, right?

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I think it's five.
I will hang on to your honorable mentions as we'll throw those in at the end.
All right.
Hit me up.
What you got?
Top five movie set in the future for your boy in Dizzle 3.
Number one, this is kind of new to me because again, I never read the books and I have no
familiarity with it.
So forgive me.
Dune.
I really actually like Dune.
I actually really do.

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It's a movie I think I'm going to be consistently watching over the next couple of years.
That almost made my visually stunning movies, but it's Denebiel new and fucking Roger Deakins.
But it's such a boring film for me.
Watch two, man.
Okay.
No, I like to allow.
Anyways, based on the future, I'm going to go one is Dune.
By the way, I'm surprised you didn't say Planet of the Apes, but that's horrifying.

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I don't want to live in that world.
That's not what the question is.
Is your favorite movie or top five movie set in the future?
Yeah, but I don't want to live in that world.
Okay, I get it.
I get it.
Okay.
So among a planet ruled by apes with their misshapen ape hands and they're forming a
society with based on the the pinnacle of human society and oh, those poor horses did

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ever know all they've known is just the rough misshapen ape hands on their on their harnesses
and their their mitt that the horrible ape faces.
Oh man, this is turning sexual.
I hate monkeys.
I get it.
I hate them.
All right.
So number one is Dune.
Number two is and I always mispronounce this movie.
I say the American version but Akira or Akira to all of us.

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Yeah, I love that movie.
It's Akira.
Okay.
Neo Tokyo is about to explode.
That was also also almost on my visually stunning.
Just because I've never seen anything like that.
I admit that.
I mean that movie just rules on a lot of different levels and I mean the way that they film the
tail light streaks as as they're racing through through the city, you know.

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Yeah, I mean it's all teen gangs and stuff like that.
But I don't know.
It's visually stunning but it's also just one of my favorite movies that's just more
sure.
So number that that's that's your vision.
The future is just dystopian.
No, no, that nuclear fallout thing.
You look at it differently.
I think we took the assignment.
Is there just movies that I like that are based in the future?

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There's nothing I don't picture myself living in them.
I'm just like, okay, okay.
I think you're like what?
Yeah.
But anyways, this next one, certainly, I hope you don't consider that my third favorite
movie based in the future.
I got to go with Children of Men.
If you have not seen that movie, do yourself a favor and watch it.

(01:38:22):
You are doing yourself a grave disservice.
We've talked about it on the podcast before.
It is Alfonso Cuaron.
He does Gravity.
He does.
He's an incredible filmmaker.
I think he did Roma as well.
The Netflix picture.
He does super long shots.
Yes.
And it is a ultimately the pitch of the movie is is that women have not been able to produce

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children for 18 years.
And it's just the fall human population is population is dying.
What matters to humanity when we're all dying?
Yeah.
And so it's like the youngest person on earth is a celebrity at this point.
And he's baby.
I call him baby Diego.
Baby Diego.
And he's like 19 years old.
It's an incredible movie.

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Yeah.
Children of Men.
I'm not saying I want to live in that future.
There's some incredible long shots in that the opening scene where he goes and picks
up coffee and then there's a terrorist bombing.
I mean, it's genius.
Again, it's almost like Mad Max Fury Road in terms of the sheer amount of moving parts
to make that opening scene happen is just incredible.

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Like everything had to be on point and on time and to make that happen.
It's choreography, man.
Yeah.
It's not just like a fight choreography.
Yeah.
It's not just like, hey, you in the background, you extra, you need to be on this floor market
this time.
You while you're doing that, you need to move this way.
Like it's it's a ballet and it's beautiful and it needs to be recognized by everybody.

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And again, it's just a really cool concept that just be absolutely set in the future.
So number four on my list, I'm going to go with Idiocracy.
I love that movie.
It is one of the funniest movies of all time and I will put it up against anything.
It is underrated criminally.
And please do yourself the pitches.
Ultimately, that smart people, that the human race over 500 years becomes increasingly dumb,

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which is becoming more and more real as intelligent people don't procreate at the rate that stupid
people do.
And you you span that out over five hundred and fifty something years and was just a planet
full of dumbasses in the most average person in the world becomes the smartest man and
hilarity ensues.
And it's one of the best movies set in the future of all time becoming more and more
realistic.

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That was one of my honorable mentions.
So I'm glad that you put that out there.
Yes.
Again, it's not a world that I would want to live in, but I appreciate their vision
of the future and directed by my judge.
Yes.
Big shout out.
So I was going to say Blade Runner 2049 as number five just because I love that movie
set in the future.
But instead, I will mention just my honorable mention then Bill and Ted Bill and Ted's Excellent

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Adventure.
Oh, I mean, Rufus is from the future.
That's the whole impetus of the film.
I love that.
But they build a utopia based on music and mutual respect.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's a good poll.
I'm surprised.
I I'm ashamed that I didn't think of that one.
Yeah.
So that's got to be on there.
My honorable mention is the movie The Rover, which is just a really depressing movie.

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I have not seen that.
It is a very depressing movie.
Yeah.
But it's really good, though.
Really good.
So what's your honorable?
Oh, also another one I got to give a shout out to.
And this is kind of cheats at the time it was set in the future.
Avengers Endgame is my other honorable mention.
There is a five year jump in that movie that jumps from 2018 where it was set into 2023.

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It says five years later after the snap.
Yeah.
So at the time, we're just now caught up to where we are.
Right.
But technically, Avengers Endgame was set in the future.
And so Avengers Endgame has got to be on the list.
It's one of the highest grossing.
Technically, Infinity War was set.
I think Infinity War was also set in the future.
At the time.

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And then Endgame just did a five year jumps that put it.
Yeah, you're right.
So at the time, Endgame was set in the future.
So I got to give a big shout out to Endgame.
Yeah.
And my only other honorable mention was Alien.
Oh, hell yeah.
But again, it's not it's not a future that I would want to live in.
I just love their concept of everything in the future looks.

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It looks viable.
It looks real.
It looks it's like practical.
Yes.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like in terms of in a world where they hadn't even imagined A.I. or computer interfaces
or something like that, like everything is run on like basically DOS.
You know.

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Yeah.
So that was that was the extent of that that they could imagine in the future.
And so to build a world off of that, where it's all like literally putting in computer
keyboard, you know, like you put information, no user interface yet.
Right.
Right.
Well, I mean, it's a bad ass movie set in the future.
You're not going to hear me argue about it.

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All right.
Cool.
All right.
So that was our second to last one.
Again, this is our seven fives top international films.
What are your top five international films?
That just means they obviously were not produced in the Hollywood system or were not independent
here in America.
So, I mean, they could have they could have wild success in America.
They just couldn't see again.

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I took this as just movies that were not produced within the American film production system.
So, I mean, yeah, that's fine.
I just if it's an underground American movie, it's like, no, that's just an independent
film.
No, no, no.
It's all stuff that has its basis in other countries than than than America.

(01:43:54):
Number one, Grave of the Fireflies by Hayao Miyazaki.
That's on Netflix now.
Go watch it, by the way.
Well, I want you to understand.
No, no, no.
Go watch it.
This.
Yeah, just go watch it.
It's a great Miyazaki movie.
You'll feel great.
No worries.
No.
This Miyazaki movie is unlike any of his other films.

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Typically Miyazaki focuses on the fantastic, on the surreal, on almost the the fantasy
like almost like Alice in Wonderland.
It's it's all of his movies have some basis of somebody from the weird from the real world
set into a fantastical setting.
Yeah.

(01:44:37):
You know, this movie is not that it is very much based in reality.
And it's very gripping.
It's so visually stunning and and.
But it is not a happy movie.
It's Japan and World War Two.
We'll just put it like that.
And nobody in this movie comes out looking looking good.

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World War Two.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I just I want to stress this like it's incredible, though, if you're if you're as we always say
here, you put this right this down.
Us white people, we love our bummer movies, go ahead and just fire that bad boy up on
a whim.
It I would almost put it in the same breath as like Requiem for a Dream in terms of I
put it in like fucking Hotel Rwanda, bro.

(01:45:20):
It's OK.
Right.
OK.
Right.
But you know, I'm talking like we're talking that we're talking the same language like
it's it's it's visually stunning and it's worth a watch.
But you will not walk away from this movie feeling great.
I just want to put that out there.
Although it is one of the best international movies I've ever seen.
Agreed.
Agreed.

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OK.
It's almost the anti Disney.
Yeah.
No, no.
Thousand percent.
All right.
What else you got?
What's number two on the list?
Number two, I'm going to go with, oh, Curse of the Golden Flower.
Dude, good poll.
I almost put a similar movie on my list, but Curse of the Golden Flower takes the cake.

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And I got to say, this almost made my list for the visual, the best action sequences.
Oh, the judge in the in the final season, the season, the courtyard.
Yeah, that's right.
Right.
But I will say that as good as that scene is and it is a visually dynamic scene, everything
is worth a watch.
It's like a gang wars.

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One person's in gold.
One person's everybody's got a different flag.
You're flying with are all from the same family.
It's the most Shakespeare feudal Japan.
Exactly that with like meets Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon.
It is an incredible movie.
And that's so good.
And that's why it transferred from the action sequence section into this section, because

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because of these Shakespearean plot lines, the edipice of it all.
Yeah, I mean, it's a little there's some some freakiness amongst the family.
But also the costumes, the costumes in that movie.
It's the settings, the set design, the everything in that movie is just so overwhelmingly beautiful.

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Every shot is like a painting.
And plus, Michael, I didn't want to go there.
Do I got to go there, son?
Go ahead.
They got Chow Yun Fat in it.
Chow Yun Fat.
He plays an emperor.
And he's dead.
And he was in hard boiled.
And he was in the killer.
Yeah, that movie is just it's it's so over the top, but in the best way.

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Like it's it's like you said, it's Shakespearean in its methods.
Yeah.
You know, it's betrayal.
Family runs deep poisoning.
It's got everything.
If there's a bit of family drama that caps off with kung fu action, uprisings against
power, mothers wanting to do things with other family members.
It is an incredible movie.

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No, great pull.
Great pull.
I was number three on your list, my friend.
I'm going to go with a director that you've mentioned before, but I'm going to say Snatch
by Guy Ritchie.
I'll take that as a yeah, it got an American release, but it was certainly I'll accept
it.
I mean, it was filmed in Britain, funded by a British production company.

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Yeah, I'll accept it.
Even if I'm wrong, I'll accept it.
It could be an American movie for all I know.
Well, it was released in an in.
I mean, stars Brad Pitt.
That's not typically you're going to get it international, but I know I get what you're
getting at.
It certainly is.
It's very I just I think I think that that movie is Guy Ritchie kind of like you said,

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he finally has the budget.
He finally has a studio backing.
He finally has the cast.
He finally has the direction to make the movie that he wants to make.
And I think that this is Guy Ritchie firing on all.
So yeah, no question.
No question.
So as much as I like lock stocking to smoke, I think this it's almost like a reservoir

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dogs meets like pulp fiction kind of thing where like reservoir dogs was like the raw
like grunge of it all, where this is a little bit more polished studio.
I agree.
Album.
Yeah, no, I certainly agree with all that, man.
No, I certainly agree with all that.
That's a good analogy metaphor, whatever you want to call it.

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Yeah, that movie we can argue semantics, whether it's international or not.
I just don't want to.
OK, I'm going to let you have it.
So I win by default.
Yes, you sure do.
I get what your point is.
A technical victory.
Yes, my favorite kind of victory, favorite kind of victory.
All right.
What's number three?
Let's see.
I know you're going to steal one of my five fires.

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Chris, the golden flower snatch snatch.
We got up to four right now.
I got to go with City of God.
Ah, you rat bastard.
No, it's on my list for a reason.
Listen, I'm not stealing it from you.
I think we can both agree that that needs to be on the list.
Such a good movie in terms of it's like the Godfather meets Stand By Me.

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Yeah, that's a good way to put it.
It's yeah.
Yeah, it's a Brazilian crime movie.
Or maybe not Godfather.
Maybe it's Once Upon Once Upon a Time in Brooklyn.
Yeah, it's a little more.
Yeah, street level for sure.
A little New Jack City ish kind of city ish city.
But no, it's a Brazilian movie.

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One guy becomes a photographer and the other one becomes a lifelong criminal.
The rocket and little dice.
That's right.
Also, aka Lil' Boner.
Two best friends that are split in their decisions, their life decisions, you know, like, like.
Yeah.
And it all comes to a boil in terms of riots in the streets, gang warfare.
And somebody just gets a photo that makes the New York Times.

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So it's kind of the story of how that photo came to be.
And there's a lot of moving pieces.
It's a really, really good movie.
Again, not the most uplifting and holistically.
Yeah, you're not going to walk away from this being like, I feel good about life.
Yeah, I get you.
I was number five, my friends.

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So random addendum, I was going to go with Parasite, but I think that might be on your
list.
So I'm going to go off another Bong Joon Ho movie and say Snowpiercer.
I think you honestly like Snowpiercer better than than Parasite anyways.
I do.
If you ask me which movie I want to watch right now, Snowpiercer.

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That's the Matthew Dudley answer, by the way.
I love that.
But yeah, I think Snowpiercer.
I mean, just the concept of the never ending train and them having to fight their way up.
I mean, we talked about, you know, like Game of Death and and and the Bruce Lee of it all.
It it's it's a Bruce Lee movie, but updated for the for the modern times with the so not

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subtle class warfare.
Right.
Like not even try to disguise.
Well, yeah, it's about class warfare.
Right.
Exactly.
Exactly.
So I think Snowpiercer as much as I want to put Parasite up there, I think it's a little
bit more heady of a movie, whereas I think Snowpiercer is just more.
It's more joyous to me.

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It's more fun.
The movie goes and I say this with pun intended.
Snowpiercer gets off the rails a little bit by the end.
But it's it's bad ass, man.
I like Snowpiercer.
It's just as long as I view it in a campy sense, like you can watch the show.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's so stupid for all these reasons.
I just enjoy it.
You turn.

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Why do you hate fun?
I don't know.
It's not a Western.
Who cares?
I like historical accuracy.
Who cares?
I want fanatic.
What is it?
Fantasy and whimsy.
And that's right.
Give me all that shit.
All right.
So run down that list again.
I'm sorry.
Hit me with it.
Your top five.
We'll just hang on to your honorable mentions if you got any.

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So my top five Grave of the Fireflies, Curse of the Golden Flower, Snatch, City of God,
Snowpiercer.
Phenomenal list, my friend.
I think so.
Well done.
Now, look, I'm going to spare you guys just a quick backstory.
There's like a million movies that I could put on here that are just kung fu flicks, like
Five Deadly Venoms probably should be on my list.

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We were talking about Lone Wolf and Cub, All the River Sticks, part two.
Like, that's my shit.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's a great scene.
Yeah, man.
So there's like a million kung fu flicks that I could go in.
Obviously, Thirty Six Chambers of Shaolin, that's one, you know, getting young Gordon
Lou in there.
But so I'm going to spare a lot of those.

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There's a lot of kung fu flicks that just didn't make the list.
Because otherwise it would just be you reviewing the, it would just be you reviewing the flicks
being like, that scene was cool, right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
There's a lot more to it.
Also, there's a lot of animes I could have put on here.
Like, I could potentially put Akira on here again, just because it is one of my favorite
international films of all time.

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But all that being said, I'm going to, this movie has a healthy appetite.
You can tell the director had a very healthy appetite of set of said kung fu flicks when
he made it.
And I'm going to go with Stephen Chow, Kung Fu Hustle.
That's a good poll.
That movie is awesome.
That's a good poll.
The back of the DVD describes it as one part Looney Tunes, one part Kill Bill.

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But there's also like so many nods to like classic French cinema, which I don't know
anything about, but he tells you in the scenes like, oh yeah, we're going to imitate the
scene from this movie because there's a poster of that movie on the back wall.
Sure.
Right.
And the characters are engaged in the same pose.
Yeah.
So Kung Fu Hustle is one of the best kung fu flicks of all times.
It is everything you want it to be.

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It is so much fun and silliness and but also really heartfelt and just great movie all
the way around.
So I got to go Kung Fu Hustle is number one.
Yeah.
Okay.
Number two.
Fair pick.
It might be a borderline pick because it does take place in America as well.
But I'm going to go with the Jamaican crime movie Shata's of yeah.

(01:55:07):
Kaimani Marley.
Kaimani Marley.
I forget the director's name.
Cess Silveira.
Oh, that's right.
Yeah.
He doesn't done much else since then.
But you know what it was I in my honest to God opinion, Shata's had to be the most bootlegged
movie of all time.
And I know there's not a way of tracking that but as somebody who used to just go see what
DVDs were out in certain places, there was like nine different versions of Shata's like

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people would find clips from the movie that weren't in another one and then add their
own music to it.
So sometimes it was like there would be a whole different scene or a or the same scene
but like the B take of it and they'd have like ludicrous in the background.
Another person's got it with like a three six mafia song and other ones it's like reggae.
It had to be the most bootleg movie of all time.

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With that being said, I personally own two different copies of that movie.
Yeah.
And one of them has a completely different soundtrack.
I mean like not a single song is the same on the entire soundtrack.
One of them has different scenes and they're both still valid to me.
Yeah, no, it has to be.
And again, I know you don't keep records of those things but yeah, Shata's has to be the

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most bootleg movie of all time.
But there is an official DVD with the intro that they say and I quote Shata's is official.
So Shata's is a crime drama based in Jamaica.
It's a really interesting story, kind of B movie, but it's the story itself is really
good.
So it's if you don't want to talk about people wanting to be fake gangsters and all this
little, oh, I have this genius plan and I'm going to manipulate these people at it wrong.

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Not your type of movie.
These dudes get out of Jamaican jail, go back to Miami because they're going to get in trouble
and they just walk up with people in broad daylight and they're like, yeah, we have guns.
We're in the middle of a of a diner.
We're going to start giving us half your money.
Oh no, it's like and you're going to tell everyone to sit down for we make a scene in
here.
It's like they just walk up and take it and it's the most gangsta shit.

(01:56:58):
It's the definition of rude boys.
Like your shit is now our shit.
And if you got something to say about it, we can just get to clapping.
We can just start shooting guns right now and settle it.
And they go, you know what?
You're right.
My shit is now your shit.
Yeah, we thought so.
It's just extortion just straight.
What you got on my ting?
Yeah, for real.
So yeah, Shata's is one of my international movies.

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I have to give a big shout out to City of God.
Again, for the list of the people out there, you could find your movies like Amelie and
stuff like that, which are good movies to me, City of God.
Michael, I know you mentioned it earlier.
That's one of my favorite international films of all time.
It's Brazilian crime drama coming of age story.
Check it out if you have not.
Number four, I have to go with the movie that you omitted.

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I got to go with Parasite.
It was a Bong Joon Ho.
It won best picture.
I personally, Michael and I have had a debate about this off mic, which will spare you guys.
I know we're running late on the podcast.
I don't think there's a wasted shot in that movie.
Even then when I said that, Michael was like, I can really only think of one when they're

(01:58:04):
playing with the bubbles in the water in the street.
Sure.
He's like, I mean, it still is a great scene to look at.
You could just take it out and it still works.
But I'm sure it's symbolic for something I don't fully understand because it's a very
smart movie.
The movie's genius.
Again, one best picture.
We ain't Koreans, doc.
Right.
He's a phenomenal director, man.
And then number five, how dare we leave off the all time classic, Gojira.

(01:58:30):
Oh, sir.
You're talking about the 1954.
There's other iterations of Godzilla, which I like.
I like, to be honest, I like some of the Saturday morning cartoon versions of them the best
where it's just like some of the late 80s, early 90s stuff.
I actually sometimes prefer those.
But they're so campy.

(01:58:50):
They're so cartoony.
Well, they're more fun.
And I watched them as a kid.
But as an actual, the movie that set it all off is Godzilla.
Like you got it's a we talk about perfect movies.
It's a perfect movie.
Oh, it's a little slow, but like everything has a purpose in the movie, man.
I might argue that Godzilla minus one might kind of outshine the original Godzilla, but

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only just barely because it's a re modern like it's a modern retelling of the story.
But I see where you're coming from.
Like it's the basis.
It's the origin.
It's the the granddaddy of it all.
Like you don't get to Godzilla minus one without going through Godzilla.
I mean, I have made the argument and Godzilla might be the most pliable character in all

(01:59:42):
the movie history.
Sure.
And he can just do whatever you need.
Yeah.
If you need him just smashed up.
OK, cool.
If you want to be sympathetic, you can do that.
If you want to be a hero.
I mean, the monster verse, whether you love it or hate it, is making hundreds and hundreds
of millions of dollars across the globe right now, just when he pairs up with King Kong
and they're like, oh, we're going to fight each other.
But guess what?
We're going to fight each other because the body's in the end and fight a threat greater
than us.

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Those movies are making money hand over fist, which, you know, whatever.
So international movies.
I got Kung Fu Hustle, Shata's City of God.
Big shout out to Michael on that one.
Parasite and Godzilla.
And again, my honorable mentions would be I'm going to just say five deadly venoms.
OK, I'll give it to that.
And the newest movie that I'm going to put on that list is Anatomy of a Fall, as it has

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one of the most original and best screenplays I've ever seen.
Oh, that's an international film?
Yeah, yeah.
It's a one.
Yeah, it was nominated one best screenplay at the Oscars last year.
So it's worth it.
It's worth it.
And I want to make you look at the 50 Cent song P.I.M.P.
Hold Different Light.
Fair enough.
All right.
Do you have any honorable mentions on that one or you just want to move on?

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I think that's it.
OK, so our final category is and I think this is going to be really, really relevant to
us, the best movie brothers, do not do well, maybe not do just best movie brothers, best
movie movie brothers.
OK.
All right.

(02:01:08):
We'll start us off big, bro.
So the first one I got to go with obviously is going to be the big one.
I mean, I got to go with Jake and Elwood from the Blues Brothers.
Oh, why don't you think of that in the title?
Yeah.
Yeah, no, it's great.
I mean, a musical buddy cop comedy.

(02:01:31):
And they put it on the road where where, you know, it's it's it's all these different genres
that's blending music and humor and the the the I hate to say Saturday Night Live at all,
but that's what it is like that that type of humor, you know, the irreverent situational
comedy kind of thing.

(02:01:52):
I mean, Dan Aykroyd was like fucking T pain is at one point in his career.
He was just a hit maker, dude.
I mean, call him a weird dude, whatever you want.
But he was just he was boom, boom, boom, hit after hit after hit.
Like he was the go to guy for a long time.
It's super quotable and star studded.
They bring in, you know, Aretha Franklin and Ray Charles and about the brothers, though.

(02:02:16):
What about the brothers is what I want to know.
I mean, they're bonded by music and a desire for not necessarily chaos, but a sense of
bucking the system.
I heard that, you know, like.
They they from the start say they're on a mission from God, you know, they both have

(02:02:38):
a vision and and their vision is to unify the world through music and and soul and and
jazz and and blues and just.
Yeah, yeah, they certainly share each other's passion and vision and then they take it on
the road.
No, I get it.
It's a great pull.

(02:02:59):
It's great.
That was number one was Blues Brothers Blues Brothers.
That's right.
Number two, number two best movie of top five movie brothers.
I'm going to go with the Mario Brothers.
Ah, they are in a movie now, are they not?
Damn it.
Great pull.
I'm not even talking about the recent Mario Brothers movie.
I'm talking about John Leguizamo.
I'm talking about Johnny Legs and Bobby Hoskins.

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Look, I'm for it.
I'm for it.
The same boots that you see in Demolition Man and the same boots that they not demolition
man.
What is it?
Face off.
Oh, face off.
Oh, with the magnet boots.
Also, that might be a next movie Moxie trivia question.
Good.
Write that down.
Write that down.
They always brew in the background here.
That's right.

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No, that's a great one, man.
Yeah.
I mean, Mario Brothers.
I mean, even bringing in the Charlie Day Chris Pratt of it all.
I really like that movie, actually.
You can't get a better dynamic between two brothers in terms of they just want to help
each other out.
They're they're there for each other.
Mario, bro, you got to spin this yarn.

(02:04:01):
Everybody knows if you don't know, figure it out.
You know what I'm saying?
Let's see.
So number three.
OK.
I'm going to go with the Gecko Brothers from from Dusk till Dawn.
Oh, OK.
OK.
I thought you were like Gordon Gecko from two of them.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
Oh, no, I guess.
Right.
Yeah.

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George Clooney and Quentin Tarantino.
OK.
That's a Robert Rodriguez joint, right?
It is written by directed by Quentin or no written by Quentin Tarantino directed by Robert
Rodriguez.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Maybe.
I don't know.
Yeah, I know.
I guess.
Wild speculation.
Yeah.
Just two brothers that always have each other's back.

(02:04:43):
I mean, the scene where they're in the titty twister and George Clooney just tells his
brother, hey, brother, we're on the clock.
And immediately Quentin Tarantino squares up and puts his gun on the table.
How many to from your left?
And he sees the two guys walking up on him.
You know, it's two guys that are you see the dynamic between them.

(02:05:08):
You know, like Richie has this thing where he like sexually assaults women and has this
whole thing of he wants to be a gangster.
And George Clooney's character is, dude, we do not do this.
We are bank robbers.
We're not rapists.
We're not murderers.
We're not this, that, the other.
Why get your shit together and wants to be vile?
Yeah, yeah, exactly.

(02:05:29):
Like so it's this whole dynamic of you see the conflict between them, but yet they always
have each other's back.
I wouldn't have your back on one of those scenarios.
I can tell you that much.
I wouldn't have your back either.
So we are in agreement.
Good.
So we're going to be bank robbers.
Yeah, OK, there we go.
There we go.
Yeah, he's just the debauch has to come to a you have to draw a line somewhere.

(02:05:50):
But I hear you though.
OK, good one.
So what's number three?
Number three, I'm going to go with this might be a little bit of a stretch, but I'm going
to go with Doug and Jim from the town.
I'll allow it because it has Jeremy Renner.
I'm going to allow it, but no, they're not actual blood brothers.
They're not.
But yet they do have the scene where Jeremy Renner says, that's my brother.

(02:06:14):
What did you do to piss him off?
Yeah, no, they're they're thicker than that for sure.
They're brothers in the sense of like me and Kaba are brothers.
No, I get it.
I get what you're saying.
You build the family that you choose.
Exactly.
No, I get it.
I'm going to allow it.

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Jeremy Renner pass.
So maybe not blood brothers, but they're close enough.
I mean, yeah, it's I mean, they're close enough in brothers in terms of it's the family
that they show not brotherhood.
It's brothers, but I'm going to allow it again.
Michael not fighting you tonight.
If you haven't noticed, not here to argue semantics over Jeremy Renner.
You can do what he wants.
So my other brothers, I'm going to go with is for right.

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Is that number four?
No, I'm saying are we on number four?
One, two, three, four.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'm going to go with let's see in terms of brothers in cinema, I'm going to go with I
know Shaft and Dolomite.

(02:07:18):
Oh, I mean, they're the best brothers in cinema, right?
Certainly.
The question is not who are your top four smoothest brothers.
Oh, actual brothers.
Yeah.
Yeah.
No, I got.
OK.
Sorry.
I tried to sneak in a base joke on third base.

(02:07:40):
I'm going to go with the Bondurant brothers in lawless.
I've never seen that movie.
That's Tom Hardy, right?
Tom Hardy and Shia LaBeouf and and Jason Clarke.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I've never seen that movie, though, but it's not necessarily a gangster movie.
They're all like bootleggers in the 1920s, whatever.

(02:08:06):
Guy prohibition area.
Yeah.
Guy Pierce is the is the is the bad guy that the antagonist D.E.A.
Not age, but a T.F.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Just three brothers that throughout thick and thin have each other's back and they

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lie for each other, but they never actually like distend the truth.
They just admit information in order to make the other person look great.
Like it's a hard explanation without giving way plot points.
But yeah, just just three brothers that are like we are unified on this.
Like it's all about, you know, family and just all of us trying to make it and survive

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in the hardest of times.
OK.
I have not seen that movie, so I cannot comment on that one, but I'm going to take your word
for it.
So that was your five, right?
I think that's it.
Yeah.
I think that covers it.
Yeah.
All right.
Are you ready for mine?
Let's do it.
Best or top five brothers in movie one, you're missing a glaring one, so I'm very surprised.

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Let's just go and get this out of the way.
I'm not going to talk about it too much.
The Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.
Oh, you son of a bitch.
Yeah, it's right there, dude.
I was right there.
I almost just said, all right, then I just have to do one more because that's four brothers
right there.
One, Raphael, two.
But again, the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.
You don't understand the bond I have with my brothers, Miriam.
My brothers.

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Leonardo's like, get in the house.
Why?
Why?
No, they are the only.
I love them, Miriam.
Those are the only band of brothers I care about.
So yeah, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, number one.
Number two, I think you can see this movie coming a mile away.
I actually haven't talked about this movie that much on the podcast, comparatively the
other things you talk about.

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If you're just now tuning in for the first time, Step Brothers is one of my favorite
comedies of all time.
Oh, son of a bitch.
And I watch it all the time.
I mean, technically.
They're Step Brothers is what they are.
So if we can count your brothers, we can count Step Brothers.
OK, OK.
Again, because you can go into like army movies, be like, we're brothers.
No, you're not.
We're not phoning in Vin Diesel and Paul Walker like, no, we're not doing that.

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We're not doing that.
So yeah, they certainly count in my book.
Step Brothers, Will Ferrell, the incomparable Wall of Famer, John C. Reilly.
That's so genius.
I'm so mad that I didn't think of that.
I had to.
Number three, this may surprise some of you.
I've only seen this movie one and a half times, maybe two all the way through.

(02:10:42):
But there is a Pixar movie that came out during Covid and when they were trying to kind of
figure out theaters and the whole like, do we release it just on Disney Plus?
Do we just do it in theaters?
There's a movie called Onward and it stars Chris Pratt and who plays Spider-Man?
Tom Holland.
Tom Holland.
OK.
And they play it's kind of a fantasy movie like they play like dragons or something like

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it doesn't know they're they're like trolls.
They're like trolls or elves or something like that.
I don't know.
It doesn't matter.
But that movie really symbolizes to me it really sticks the landing in terms of the
moral to kids go or to your brothers go on an adventure to try to see their passed away
dad one more time.

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And it's just it really their dad who their dad has passed away and there's a spell or
a journey that if they complete, they'll be able to see him again.
Sure.
OK.
And it is it's a really heart wrenching thing.
And they're what the sacrifice which they make for each other.
You know, Big Brother's always looking out for little brother.

(02:11:46):
You know, little brother always thinks that like the oldest the older ones, the coolest
and kind of forgive some of his very in your face like that true and very boisterous attitudes
about thing.
He's like, oh, yeah.
But, you know, he's really into like the Led Zeppelin and the Dungeons and Dragons and stuff.
And, you know, he's very the oldest brother is kind of just a bit of a loud character.
But, you know, it just really shows the family dynamic and how much these two love each other.

(02:12:08):
Again, I've only seen it a couple of times.
But when I think about movies with brothers, that one really is close to my heart.
See it if you have it.
OK.
Number four.
This is the iconic again.
Not all these relationships are good relationships.
Michael.
Excuse me.
Michael and Fredo Corley-Holme.
Godfather 2 specifically.
Damn, that's a good pull.
Yeah, man.

(02:12:28):
That is the movie brothers of all movie brothers.
I knew it was you, Fredo.
You broke my heart.
And how one.
I would argue that that's in Godfather 2.
That's what I said from Godfather 2.
Oh, no.
OK.
I'm sorry.
Yeah.
I was saying mostly in Godfather 2.
But yeah.
OK.
I mean, the brothers in.
But just the overall dynamic throughout the movies.

(02:12:49):
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, because I mean, he becomes the godfather because, you know, the old brother.
Fredo's a fuck up.
Well, no.
Also, his oldest brother gets brutally, brutally vanquished, I should say.
Yeah.
In an all time scene.
So, yeah.
Michael and Fredo Corley-Holme, especially Godfather 2.
That family dynamic is really jacked up.
That's a good one.
That scene in the club in Miami where he basically tells Frodo, Frodo, Fredo, take my right,

(02:13:15):
take my hand and all is going to be forgiven.
And then Fredo runs away because he just can't handle the truth of like he just got caught.
You know, like Michael now knows that he's the one that fucked the entire family over
and almost got him killed and all that.
Like, and he just runs.
You know, like he rather than turn into the family, he'd rather let his ego preside and

(02:13:37):
and he just can't.
It's such a blow to him that he's always fucked up so bad.
You know, and then he has that whole scene where like, I'm not dumb.
Like people say, I'm smart.
You know, I can do things.
And meanwhile, Michael's like, yeah, you can, Fredo.
Of course.
Of course, buddy.
Yeah.
We all know you can do things, right?

(02:13:57):
Well, they do patronize him a lot, in all fairness.
I mean, he's not, it's not undeserving, but they kind of a fuck up, you know?
Yeah.
So it's like, hey, man, just play your tambourine.
Right.
Play your tambourine, dude.
Now the fifth one, I have a lot of honorable mentions.
So what I'm going to do is just throw my fifth one out there.

(02:14:18):
And that is the brothers played by Chris Pine and Ben Foster in the movie Hell or High Water,
which is an incredible movie written by Taylor Sheridan, who is like of Yellowstone fame
of also, but he also did the, what's the movie, Wind River.
No, that movie is these two guys are bank robbers and they're raising money for a very

(02:14:40):
just cause, but man, their methods are kind of messed up and their dynamic is just incredible.
If you have not seen that movie, Hell or High Water, please do yourself a favor.
It's got Jeff Bridges.
Yeah.
I was almost said Jeff Daniels.
That'd be a different movie.
Yeah.
It's got Jeff Bridges.
It's like I said, it's got Chris Pine.
It's got an incredible like wall of fame performance from Ben Foster.

(02:15:02):
Oh, it is all time.
He's amazing.
He's just a dude who is just barely containing the wild side of himself.
You know, like this is a dude who wants to be the legendary cowboy, you know, like, like
we talked about the, the, the Tom Hardy.
Well we're going to talk about that.

(02:15:23):
We're like, he, he considered himself like, he's the last cowboy.
He's the last outlaw.
And meanwhile, Chris Pine is like, no dude, we're not outlaws.
We're not cowboys.
We're fundraisers.
We're Robin Hood.
You know, we're, we're robbing from the rich to, to give to the poor.
The poor just happened to be us, you know?
Yeah, no, it's, it's a, it's an incredible movie.

(02:15:44):
Uh, so definitely check that out.
That was his final scene where he climbs that mountain with a sniper rifle and his, and
he makes his final stand is amazing.
Like the, the, the him at that point, him and Jeff Bridges are after the same thing.
They want to go out in a blaze of glory.
That's why, but it's partner, Jeff Bridges partner gets shot.
The dynamic between the two brothers where like the Chris Prime, the, the Chris Pine

(02:16:08):
of it all is just like, we just need to survive.
We just need to not get caught.
Yeah.
Whereas Ben Foster's character is like, no, I want to be the greatest bank robber to have
ever lived.
I don't think he cares very much anymore.
I think he definitely wants to be like, he's going for glory.
He's, he's, he's not trying to get away.
He wants to make a name for himself.
He's like, my back hurts too much from sleeping on steel cots.

(02:16:31):
So I'm going out the other way.
Exactly.
So yeah, no, I heard that.
Um, so yeah, it would be my five, uh, training age, beat Ninja turtle step brothers, uh,
onward Michael and Fredo core Leon.
And then we got heller high water.
There's a lot of honorable mentions.
That's one to throw out there real quick.
There is a movie starring Tom Hardy where he plays a set of twins called legend.
Yeah.

(02:16:51):
Yeah.
We talked about it.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
I was going to make, but, uh, no, you're good.
Yeah.
But there's a scene in there where he wants to, one of the, the Tom Hardy twins again,
he plays twins in the movie, uh, want to do a proper shootout, just Google legend, proper
shootout scene, and you'll see two brothers fine at work.
Uh, that had to give a shout out to me.
One that is a absolute bummer that needs to be on this list though.

(02:17:14):
That broke my heart and not to put it on there.
Um, Johnny Depp and Leonardo DiCaprio and what's eating Gilbert grape.
That brother dynamic is incredible.
Yeah, it is incredible.
And somebody taking responsibility for their younger brother when their mom can't, nobody
else seems to care about either one of those.
They're just left to their own devices.

(02:17:34):
Family dynamic of, of, I have to be the man of the house because no one else is capable.
Yeah.
Yeah, for sure.
So that one in my final, uh, honorable mention is Christian Bale twice again in a role in
a role he plays twins in, in the prestige.
Also a good one.
Yeah, man.

(02:17:55):
He's that's a good brother dynamic.
There's a lot of spoilers, but there's a lot sacrificed.
There's a lot sacrificed by each of them to live one half of a life final twist when they
show like, Oh no, it's just the trick, the way you think it works.
Yeah.
Michael Caine was telling me about it.
I mean, we've spoiled it for you now, but go watch the prestige.
I would also throw in as, as far as an honorable mention, the Boondocks saints.

(02:18:16):
Oh, great poll or just the Boondocks.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
Right, right, right.
No, the Boondocks saints is a great one.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Uh, two brothers again, who are dedicated to, they both have the same vision from God
and are so dedicated to their craft that even though they argue about like name one thing
you're going to need a stupid rope for, you know, like, and then he pulls out his knife

(02:18:37):
like, Oh, is that right?
Rambo.
You know, like it's there, they're giving each other shit and they, they have this great
brother dynamic of you can tell that they love each other, but they also are in a weird
way not trying to out compete each other, but they're trying to outshine each other
in, in a very like personal way.

(02:18:58):
Yeah.
No, that's a good poll.
Yeah.
The Boondocks saints man.
It's really good.
So on that note, I would say that is our seven top five.
I'll give you the categories one more time.
We had top five action sequences.
We had top five visually stunning films.
We had top five directorial debuts.
We had top five films based in the future.

(02:19:21):
We had top five dogs.
We had top five international films and we had the top five brothers and movies.
So if you want any of those subjects, just write us in at what you've been watching podcast
at gmail.com.
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those DMS on the Instagram and that's at what you at what you've been watching also.

(02:19:45):
Yeah.
Just find us, write us in if you want us to tackle a new subject.
Hey, what are your top five sports movies?
We will come up with a list separate of each other and let you know.
Bend it like Beckham.
There you go.
It's actually not a bad sports movie.
It's actually not a bad sports movie.
So yeah.
Anything else you want to say my brother?
Uh, I just want to say be kind to each other.

(02:20:06):
Since in times of crisis, especially hurricanes, maybe check in on each other once in a while.
Just, you know, be the extending hand that sometimes people need.
Sound advice, man.
Sound advice.
And uh, yeah, certainly don't let tragedy be a reason you remember to be grateful.
There you go.
Um, yeah.
Love you brother.
Good episode.

(02:20:27):
I'll say it here right now.
I'll review this episode of too sweet.
On that, my friend, I recommend that each and every one of you go watch a movie, make
a list.
And talk about it with somebody that you love.

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