Episode #79 Fast & Furious; This or That

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Hello, hello, hello to the legions and welcome.
Welcome once again to the Whatcha Been Watching podcast.

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I am your host, the merry marvelous Mike Dudley, joined as always on this brand new year by
my brother co-host and cohort, MD3 Marcus Dudley checking in on the Y-O-U, what is going
on out there in podcast land.
We are broadcasting live from the Lake Jackson studios of Whatcha Been Watching.

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Hope y'all are all doing well.
Hope you all enjoyed your holiday festivities into the new year, blessings and all that
whatnot bestowed upon you from me and mine to you and yours.
Happy holidays and all that whatnot.
So how you doing my brother?
I am good just trying to recover financially from Christmas.
Once again, it has crippled me.

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I don't know why we do this to ourselves every year and put ourselves through stress.
We could all just collectively say no more.
Yeah, that would be pretty financially beneficial.
I am not only recovering from financial stuff, but I had the flu really bad and it kicked
the shit out of me.
So if you hear me quietly giving one of these, pardon me.

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I am talking less.
I might be doing y'all a favor.
That's why.
Yeah, man.
So how about you?
Did you get everything you wanted for Christmas?
And then some my friend.
Right.
You know, when we started the Christmas season, the Philadelphia Eagles were doing very well.
And by the time this comes out, I hope that they are ready to make some plays in the playoffs.

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So we will see.
I believe in them.
I do too, actually, surprisingly.
And it's weird.
I mean, it's like we were talking earlier about negativity, which we'll talk about the Superman
trailer and some of the negativity I saw.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I mean, it's the internet.
What can you expect?
But I'm in the Eagles group online and I swear you would think and I know part of it's just
being an Eagles fan.
You would like the most critical effing people I've ever met sometimes like 12 and two.

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And they're like, this team's trash and we're not doing nothing.
It's like, dude, we could be the two and 12 Raiders right now.
What are you talking about?
Enjoy some of it.
You know, like it doesn't happen all the time.
We actually have a number one defense.
It's like I never have it.
I enjoy it.
So hopefully that by the time this comes out, I'm not looking real stupid.
Well, like I did with the coming from one hater to address it.

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Finally, I tried to put you in the quietly critical corner and disguise it as something
else.
I'm gonna get this damn hater ass.
So sometimes you you can't let yourself get too happy because inevitably when it's taken
away from you, it's going to hurt that much more.
So you got to kind of like, you know, you got to keep your head in check.

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So it's it's if you say everything's perfect, then you have no nothing can get better.
It gives you nowhere to go.
So you got to you got to cut it back a little bit.
You know, it's it's not perfect, but you know, like it's emotionally hedging your bets is
what it is.
It's like it's a safety mechanism.
Yeah, it's like if you are hypothetically, it's no different than if I were to honestly

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believe because I have a healthy skepticism.
If like the Eagles are playing a good team, I'll be like, well, I honestly think that
team could could could beat them or whatever.
But then I bet on the Eagles or if I bet on that other team and the Eagles win, it's like,
oh, I didn't mind losing that bet because I emotionally hedge my bet already.
If the Eagles win, it's like, oh, I lost twenty dollars because I bet on the other team.

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But oh well, these boys came through.
Yeah, so that's what you do with skepticism.
That's what I do with skepticism.
But then also sometimes things are just garbage.
Straight up a sort of it's best.
But anyways, shout out to Ketsa.
Yes.
Always right.
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I don't even know, man.
I got heat for days.
This man sends me.
I can't put it on the air because, you know, it's a common thing.
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No, we're good.
And then Instagram at what you've been watching.
Yes.
Yeah.
We got there.
Yeah, we got there.
Hello.
So, you know, we out there in the streets.
I was I was running a tire inflation business.
It's mostly me just breathing heavy.
But I was turning Mike's hard lemonade to Mike's soft lemonade.

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So I'm not sure that a discount to middle schoolers.
Yeah, for real.
This is just the most re bottled.
Yeah.
Splash of remember Zima's liquid IV in there.
Anyways.
So, yeah, man, the reason everybody tunes in every single week, my guy, post holidays
to get them past whatever they got going on, the people need to know my brother what you've

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been watching, dude.
Strangely enough, I think it's something you have also seen recently.
Brand new Superman trailer from James Gunn.
Yeah, man.
What you think, dude?
I really like it.
I'm not going to lie.
It looks like a lot of fun.
You know what it reminded me of?
Remember when Christopher Reeve was Superman and Superman was he was witty and charming

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and he was, you know, but also very down to earth and very, you know, I say man of the
people, but trying his best to fit in with with the common folk.
Yeah, you know, it seems a lot like that.
And I think that that's something that's been missing from the character of lately.
Like I don't want a dark, dreary like the world is on my shoulders and I'm one step

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away from being a tyrant super like I want Superman like I will absolutely help get your
cat out of the tree and also punch an asteroid in space.
I'm with you there.
And look, I'm not I'm not trying to take shots if people like the Snyder verse.
That's cool.
The only thing I don't like is when people just immediately start to shit on this movie
just off a trailer, which we'll talk about the negativity.

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I was just, golly, I want to watch the trailer online.
And I'm not surprised it's the Internet, but it's like, dude, somebody just posted something
simply as like, I like this movie or I like this trailer has me hyped for the movie.
And like 40 people are like laughing emojis and like, bro, this this trash is going to
be straight.
You should die.
You should butter.
I am the voice.

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I didn't say anything negative to anybody else.
Or there's just a bunch of like this is what you get when you fire Zack Snyder.
Like here's the thing.
Those movies still exist.
Right.
And granted, we didn't get to see Dark Side, Try to Storm or we didn't get that far in
it.
But well, sorry, those movies still exist.
You can still go watch them.
That's like, oh, that's my favorite Superman.
I like Cavalier Superman.
I just don't like the script he was given to work with as Superman.

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Right.
Right.
He just kind of neutered him.
He just was mopey in the first one and then was like, I didn't understand what his motivation
was in the second one.
And then Justice League, he just showed up as a zombie and was like, well, I'm here to
save the day now, which was the closest iteration of like, oh, this, this is the hope we've all
been waiting for.
But not until we got through Pet Sematary Superman first.
That's what it was.

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Let's be real.
I can't go down that road.
Oh, down that road, a lot of Krypton's down there.
Something about her off dad.
Right.
That guy rules well played.
You know how you want to be the ADR guy?
I do.
I want to be that guy in every horror movie.
The harbinger of doom.
Like, well, I wouldn't camp out at that cabin.

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Some say that's a some Native American kids were buried upside down.
They had their eyes poked out with sticks, urinated all over the corpses.
They did.
Some say that cabin's haunted.
Like I want to be that guy.
That's look, corner that market.
If you got connections out there, hook your boys up.
I'm trying to do critter noises.

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Michael's trying to be spooky old guy that the teenagers that camp we will hitch could
don't listen to or whatever.
I don't know.
I picked one.
I think that's probably is a real campaign.
But anyways, but no back to Superman trailer.
I dug it, man.
I like crypto being in it.
I hope it does.
I hope it.
And again, I can't, I don't feel this way based on the trailer.
I hope it's not Guardians of the Galaxy.

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And again, not because there's anything wrong with those movies, but those movies already
exist.
You know what I mean?
Like I don't need Superman Guardians of the Galaxy.
Those movies exist.
If I want the Guardians of the Galaxy vibe, I'll go watch those.
No, I definitely don't want Clark Kent making dick and fart jokes for sure.
But I think that I trust James Gunn enough on his directorial talents to sort of know

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where that level is in terms of you can have a witty Superman without making him crass.
Yeah, you know, I think that ultimately part of the persona and caricature of Superman
is that he is a man of refined dignity.
Like he's not going to make base jokes.

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He's not going to.
He might have a witty one liner or a wisecrack, but it's never going to be at the expense
of anybody.
It's never going to be, you know, insulting.
Yeah, I think that's very well said.
Actually, I just I can appreciate the fact that they're going for clearly a very Silver
Age comics, which is like late fifties into the sixties era where it's like sometimes

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that means Superman was just fighting monster of the week.
Sometimes later you got to introduce certain other cameos from other like Hawkman would
show up and the Green Lanterns would show up.
But I do like that they already put on Front Street that we're going to get a guy gardener.
We're going to get a Mr. Terrific.
Mr. Terrific look dope, by the way.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's a really underrated DC character.

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He is.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's like the Mr. Fantastic of, you know, basically minus the stretchy powers.
I mean, I guess the other three members, Tony Stark in terms of like just brilliant inventor.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He just doesn't have the suit of armor.
Yeah, but he's got.
Yeah, no, he's dope, though.
He's a good character.
I'm glad to see him come to the big screen.

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I know a lot of people's concerns online already, which again, I pay as much attention to it,
which let's be honest, even if I was like, man, that looks like crap.
I'm going to go see this movie.
Oh, I'm the target audience for such things.
But I know a lot of people are afraid that they're going to try to do what they did even
more so and try to shotgun a universe and go like, here's all these characters.
But James Gunn has said openly, like we're we're jumping into a world where Superman

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has been around and known for a few years now.
This isn't year one.
Yes, isn't year one like there's there's a superhero world.
We're just kind of early in it, but we're not, you know, so hopefully, which is fine.
That's that's totally acceptable way to do that.
Like and again, I think that was the main problem with the previous Snyder universe
was it was trying to make it a year one and also introduce all of these characters in

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a shotgun form in terms of just like, well, we'll just put them all on screen at the same
time and that'll that'll fix it.
Now they're all together.
It's like, well, no, like the Avengers took time to like build individual characters,
individual movies.
Then it took the time to sort of show the audience.
Now here's how they're all connected.
Yeah, they killed Superman in the second movie he was in.

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It's like I barely know this guy.
Like I have zero connection to him.
And even in the first half of this movie, he was against Batman.
And all of a sudden, doomsday kills him.
Like what is this?
Anyways, we're here nor there.
We're not here to trash.
We're here to talk about the trailer.
So I dug it.
Talking about hater ass.
That's me.
That's me.
Snyder verse has it's there's things I like about it, but just Superman.

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He missed the mark there in terms of the shit is just joyless.
I guys like I must be shunned from switch.
Have an aspect of that in the Superman character of like, it's got to be a burden to be like,
I can't, you know, I can't save everybody.
And like I do feel outcast and this and that there's a there's an aspect of the, but what
makes him better than all of us, more human than all of us is the ability to overcome
and still go to work with a smile on your face and be like, Hey man, I'm what you guys

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need if you're, if you're not that lean on me kind of guy.
Right.
And that's like the strength of it all.
So it's like that's just moping around for eight years.
I'm like, I'm going to go put stumps through a truck driver's truck and ruin his, his livelihood
because he poured a beer on me while Eddie Vedder plays in the background.
For sure.
For sure.
So anyways, so crypto we're for it.

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Yes.
Guy Gardner and all the other.
Yeah.
I like him as Holt as Lex Luthor, please.
I like him.
Yep.
I call him Brandon Holt all the time.
Probably like nine times on this podcast.
It's, it's a problem.
It is.
We respect you.
That's a sign of, of appreciation here at what you've been watching.
When you get your name butchered.
That's right.
That's right.

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Shewital Elgifer.
We like you a lot too.
That's right.
That's right.
That's going on the bingo card.
Yeah, for sure.
Anyways, so Superman trailer.
We're stoked, right?
All for it, man.
I can't wait to see it.
And it's James Gunn, so you know, it's going to be fun.
You know, it's going to have a sense of humor to it.
I think that given his track record, he knows exactly where the line is in order to not

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turn it into just like, you know, like I said, like a college humor skit or something like
that, you know.
I'm for it though.
So anyways, exciting, exciting stuff happening.
July 11th.
We'll be there.
What else you've been watching my dude?
Oh, okay.
So I also just recently watched the David Leach.

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I like that guy.
Yeah.
A24 atomic blonde.
A24.
What is it?
Twenty.
Twenty four studios.
No, it's one Northwest 24 North or something like that.
Any whose what is the production studio he has that makes like nobody and just did the
fall guy with Ryan Gosling and atomic blonde and Deadpool two, some other stuff.

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Right.
Anyways.
We ain't resume.
Look anyways.
Yeah.
Atomic blonde with Charlize Theron and James McAvoy.
I forget who the other spy was in it, but she was gorgeous.
Yeah.
The little the French.

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Yeah, I know you're talking about.
I can't.
Anyhow.
Anyway, shout out to you because thanks for all of that.
So for just brief plot synopsis, atomic blonde takes place in the last days of the Berlin
wall, like right before East and West Germany became United.
And there's a list of spies and double agents that have been operating that somehow gets

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lost and they send in Charlize Theron to find it because she's their top operative.
But she's working for the British, even though she's or she's working for the Americans,
even though she's British.
I don't remember.
Yeah, I remember the plot got overly confusing.
Yeah.
What it needed to be in my.
Yeah, it was based off a comic book, I believe.

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Right.
That sounds right.
I think it is.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But I will say the action sequences in it are amazing and they play really, really well.
It's very slick, very stylized violence.
I mean, maybe not so much John Wick, but it's pretty close.
It's not the gunplay, but like in terms of the hand to hand combat, it's very, yes, it's

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very fast paced, very long camera takes.
You get to see the impact and the tiredness of the fatigue set in on the players.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So the action sequences and there's a really good car chase sequence in it where they're
flipping cars and getting hit with Molotov cocktails and all sorts of cool stuff.
Action sequences are great, but in a spy thriller, you really, really like it's crucial that

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the audience understand what's at stake and where everybody stands.
Like it's OK to have a turn of like, oh, this person isn't who I thought they were because
obviously spies.
But like when you're dealing with double agents and triple agents and this person is telling
three different stories, like it becomes very, very difficult to follow exactly what everybody's

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motivation is.
I agree from what I remember of that movie.
I remember seeing it in theaters and then I watched it once when it came on streaming
at one point.
But I do remember it was also hard to follow because they were all very open.
I mean, everyone like there was a piece of paper that was floating around that, hey,
this person is a double agent.
This person's a triple agent.
And James McAvoy's character was very open about like, yeah, I'm playing both sides.

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And so you don't trust him, but yeah, you have to at points.
So it was just kind of weird of like, why don't you just fuck this dude up right now?
Right, right, right, right.
Beat the hell out of this dude and be like, where's the piece of paper?
I know you got it.
You know, but he was smart or whatever.
I remember that it complicated things in the fact of everybody knowing that they were all
double agents as well.
It wasn't a mystery.

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Right, right.
For being a clandestine organization, everybody was very open about their secrets.
Yeah, they're like, well, I'm like 60% on your side, though, but I got to be 40% there.
So I like so.
And it's just like, OK.
It's just and then you go tell the opposite numbers to the opposite side.
Right, right, right, right.
Yeah, James McAvoy.
At first, they tried to play him like.

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Like he was a which side was the communist side?
East Berlin was communist side anyway.
He was on the communist side, but he was playing a double agent trying to infiltrate into West
into the other side in order to steal secrets, whatever.
He's traveling back and forth, so he's got all these underground connections and whatever.

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And he basically.
They try to play him as somebody who is playing both sides because he's not sure which way
the wall is going to fall.
And so he's trying to hedge his bets 50 50.
And then at some point he just starts acting irrationally, just holding on to things he
shouldn't like he gets a piece of information and it literally could end all of his problems.

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But he decides to hold on to it because he, I guess, can't trust Charlize Theron, but
he's also like that's her his point of contact.
And like if he gives her this piece of information, they win.
I do remember that being like his weird bid for power that he held like, yeah, of his

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like, yeah, I need this vital information.
I guess it gave him some security in some way.
But at the same time, it was like you could.
I remember it being a weird thing.
So I think he got like kind of power drunk on it, though, from what I recall.
But he was also what he was doing to the best of my knowledge was he was capitalizing on
the chaos like he needed.
He knew that it was inevitable and he wanted to position himself for whichever way it did

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fall to to be like, hey, I was here the whole time.
But at the same time, he was somehow benefiting from the chaos, if I remember correctly.
Yeah, yeah, he was kind of just like he was doing pretty well for himself with the volatility
or whatever.
So for sure, for sure.
But even that, he was smart enough to understand that all of that was going to come to an end.

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And so like at some point, which side of the fence do you want to sit on?
And especially when you so at some point, he gets the dossier or whatever that has the
list of all the double and triple agents.
And then he just decides to be the bad guy like, haha, it was my plan all along.
Like no, it wasn't.
You've you literally just said that you're just reacting to shit and you're playing everybody

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against everybody.
So like now it's in your hands.
Like now you're going to be Mr. Villain all of a sudden.
The Joker conundrum where he's like, do I look like a guy with a plan and he's got a
master plan?
It seems like it.
Yeah.
Even then, I feel like we've suffered the same fate of this movie in the terms of like,
we're not talking about the parts that are bad ass.
We're getting lost in the plot.

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Yeah, it's a spy thriller.
There's twists, there's turns.
What I wanted to talk about was in the sequence that I that I refer back to is there's a staircase
sequence in which Charlize Theron has to go up and down a set of stairs.
And at some point she gets an extension cord and she kicks the shit out of some people
and it is so enjoyable to watch.
Cause again, the fatigue kicks in knives come in.

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But I remember once she gets that extension cord or I think it was right.
Yeah.
She basically goes into a portion of the building that I think it's under construction or something
is demolished from war or something like that being rebuilt.
Whatever.
Yeah.
And she's got guys on her tail and she has like 10 seconds to find something to, to,
to defend herself with.
And she just rips this extension cord out of the wall and wraps it around herself.
Like, all right, here we go.

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And at first you're like, what are you going to do with that?
But then she has this look of determination.
You're like, I don't know what she's going to do with that, but it's going to be awesome.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That there are a lot of really good parts.
Everybody in this movie looks beautiful.
It's very well shot.
It doesn't do the thing in the action sequences where it's so choppy that you can't, you can't
recognize what's happening action wise.

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Like there's very long cuts of people doing very dastardly things to, to each other.
I will say it almost seems like for better or worse.
And it's, it's, I'm not saying it's good or bad.
It's just something I noticed that like every shot or every scene has a specific color.

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Like everything in the, in the shot is saturated green or blues or reds or blacks and silvers
or like every single composition of this movie has every single shot has a composition of
a very specific color scheme.
Does that make sense?
No, it does.
I don't remember that being, I remember like there was certain parts, like I know there's

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a lot of nightclub shots that I remember a lot of red bleeding through.
Right.
But they were really, all the nightclubs are very red and orange and all of the like, the
like street at nights are very saturated in blues and purples.
And then like when she's in her, in her safe house, like just every light is green.
She's wearing a green thing.

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You know, like everything is just green, green, green, green, green, green, green.
I mean, I didn't notice that upon my first viewing, but I'm sure at some point I'll watch
it again.
I'll look for that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's, it's just interesting.
I, the idea of, of colors conveying emotions kind of thing.
So it's, it's a little heavy handed.
Like I said, it's not good or bad.

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It's just something I noticed like, oh wow, this is a very red scene or this is a very
purple scene.
It's yeah, I, I'm not going to take any shots at him as a storyteller by any means, but
like the one thing that like, when I, I look at whatever their, his production company
is, but like David Leach or whatever, or a Chad Stiles Stilesky who does the John Wick

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movies, which they both kind of somewhat co-created and kind of branched in their own directions,
but still very much so carrying that style, Chad Stilesky and David Leach.
I know like with David, like I'm going to get really cool stunt pieces and really tight
action sequences.
And like if the, if you can just not bore the shit out of me in between that, or just
give me enough to get from one to the other that makes enough up the stakes a little bit.

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Okay.
Now we got to fight harder because for these reasons, right?
Oh, cool.
That's really all I need.
Cause McGuffin.
Yeah.
Right.
I'm going to go with the next, I'm cool with it.
I'll continue to watch those dudes movies.
Yeah.
Just being honest.
Like the plot, it's like, eh, whatever.
It's a spy thriller that gets a little too ahead of itself.
Yeah.
I was just going to say it gets ahead of itself.

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I think that it's trying to be slicker than it is.
And it's, it's not that it falls woefully short.
It's just, I don't know.
It's it detracts from the movie.
It does.
Yeah.
It's trying to be something that it, if it had just settled for a lower level or not

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a lower level, but like a different gear, it would have hit the mark and been perfect.
Yeah.
Chad GPT it.
Take this comic book, take the high points, Chad GPT it.
And then let's follow those plot threads.
I don't need all it.
It just winds too much, but yes, I know she kicks them off, fuck her in the chest with
high heels.
And I liked that part, but I'll just see how would you explain that footprint?
Your whole shit caved in.

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That's what I'm talking about.
She kills a dude with a shoe.
I know she takes off her shoe and stabs him in the neck.
I know she does.
It's brutal, brutal.
It's a very Chronicles of Riddick scene where she's just like, what else can I find?
This.
So do you want to rate it, review it?
Or you want to talk about it more?
I got, I got nothing else except definitely go see, see it for the action sequences at
the bare minimum.

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A lot of very pretty people in the movie.
Yeah, for sure.
For sure.
It's like I said, it's definitely more style over substance for me.
So I'm going to give it, um, I'm going to give it a full color palette of all neon colors.
It's a fair review.
You know, I'm going to give it two very sore calves after about 14 flights of stairs.

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You're glad you did it, but you're like, uh, in high heels, high heels.
Yeah.
It hurts a little bit in some areas, but you're proud of yourself too.
Sounds right.
Fair review.
Fair review.
What does it mean?
It means after that, I went on a fast and furious tangent brother.
Oh Lord.
Cause you left when we last talked fast and furious, you had seen Tokyo drift.

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I'd seen one, two and three.
Yes.
Yes.
And where are we at now?
I have seen up to six have not seen seven yet.
It's next on the list.
Seven is the last one with Paul Walker.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I figured I saw that in theaters.
I wanted to save that one for a particular, you know, like I almost like, like a shift,

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you know, like, like BC, AD, you know, before Paul Walker, after Paul Walker kind of thing.
So this is like, so seven would be his like Jesus period where like it's, he's, it's technically
like one AD, you know, I get it.
I get it.
Yeah.
No, it's you're getting up there though.
Uh, what are your thoughts on this?
Marcus, no, start with four.
Let's walk through it cause you left us off at Tokyo, which is certainly the black sheep

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of the franchise.
It is.
It is the most different for sure.
For sure.
Four is like a soft reboot.
Four is almost like a soft reboot of two in terms of Paul Walker again has to go on deep
undercover in order to stop a drug dealer who's using souped up cars to bring drugs

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over the border.
Look, whatever.
Like same shit, same shit.
Only this time now he's paired up with Dominic Toretto in order to let Dominic get a diplomatic
immunity or whatever, pardon, whatever amnesty.
Diplomatic immunity.
So what?

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Die hard to?
Yeah.
Diplomatic immunity.
Sorry.
Uh, so anyway, so they have to infiltrate the, uh, the drug lords, uh, cartel, uh, by,
uh, posing as drivers to as driver drug mules.
Um, whatever it's bullshit.
It's forgettable.

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It's a reboot of two.
It doesn't matter.
It doesn't matter.
We need to talk about five.
Five.
Yo, I told, I told you five was when it became something different.
Did I not?
Five is actually dope bro.
And I know you can look at five through the lens of as it, as it began to increase the
bell curve or whatever, of like six, seven and eight and not how ridiculous.

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But five was the first one where we're like, Hey, I kind of liked the direction we're going.
Marcus, but you, but it's dope though, man.
I fuck with five.
They do away with any logical, like you think, you know, physics.
No, there are no physics in this.
The physics only matter to affect the cars.
That's all that matters is the cars have their own physics.

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Yeah.
It's a world.
The opening shot, they free Dom by flipping over a prison bus filled with prisoners shackled
to their seats.
No seat belts, no safety equipment.
No, they just flip a bus.
Yeah.
The County does not invest in such devices, but then they specifically have to have in

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the news report.
Miraculously, no one was injured in this dramatic crash.
And I'm like, bullshit, bullshit.
They killed so many.
I almost said innocent.
I almost said innocent prisoners, but you know what I mean?
Like so many people died and there was no guarantee that Dom was going to be the one

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that lived.
Like why, how no fucking way.
And I don't mean flipped it like once or twice.
This thing went ass over tea kettle over and over and over in slow motion, caught fire.
Barks were flying off and I'm just like, everybody in that bus is dead.
Everybody in that bus is jello right now.

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Nope.
Pepe O'Hare came out and said, do a barrel roll.
Star Fox, you Star Fox.
This is Rob 64.
A bomb has been planted at the base.
Anyways, enough of that tangent, but no, I, I'm sure.
Yeah.
They, they like flipping cars in slow mo.

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Oh dude.
Cause and then it only gets more wild from there.
I mean like, and just this movie, it gets more wild.
Yeah.
So basically they free Dom and then they decide, I forget how, but somehow they decide that
they're going to rip off this drug lord embezzler politician in Rio de Janeiro who is, has collected

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like what?
Like $90 million or something.
Like that.
But he has them in separate banks all across Rio de Janeiro.
I don't even know, dude.
The plot doesn't matter.
It's all fast cars and just wild shit happening.
Just them training to Rob this place and whipping around cars around like they're, they're driving

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in this abandoned warehouse and they're just whipping these a hundred thousand dollar cars
around these corners, missing columns by millimeters.
And it's amazing.
It's so good to watch.
And then, and then they bring in Gal Gadot, Godot, Wonder Woman, Wonder Woman's and just

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put her in bikini and seducing people.
And I'm like, yes, more of this, please.
Thank you.
Yeah.
I, I, that's what she does.
You literally have one of the most beautiful people in the world driving a fast car at
fast speeds.
I got kind of hard.
It's a TMI section of the WBW brought to you by, I don't have a sponsor.

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I don't know what that Astro glide brought to you by Crisco.
There you go.
Oh yeah.
They bring everybody back.
So like they bring in, well, the amount of people they bring back in them, when they
say everybody in these movies always changes.
They'll be like, everyone's coming back and then they're like, leave one person out just

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to bring them back in the next movie.
Well, of course.
Yeah.
But anyways, but no five though.
Keep, keep going.
I mean, they bring in ludicrous.
They bring in a Tate.
Was it not Taye Diggs?
What's his name?
Tyrese Tyrese, Tyrese Gibson, uh, with his big ass forehead.
They introduced the rock.
Yeah, I forgot.
Is Statham in this one yet or no?

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No, no, we'll get to that one.
We'll get to that one.
Yeah.
Cause mind blown, I can't wait for, for that one.
Oh, that's going to be great.
Uh, yeah, they bring in the rock.
They bring in, uh, uh, uh, Gina Carano.
Oh, she is in that movie.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Uh, Michelle Rodriguez comes back.
I thought she was, don't she die in five?

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She dies in four.
Yeah.
How does she die?
And then they, because she wasn't really dead.
See, and then she had amnesia.
That's right.
And then they brought her back.
No, wait, no, that was six.
I thought she died in five, right?
Or she died in four.
I didn't matter either way.
She died in one of those.
I thought she died in four.
She might have, she might have.
Anyway.

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Either way.
Yeah.
She dies in four and then he finds new girl in Brazil in five and they have a torrid romance.
And then as soon as she comes back in six, he like dumps her like, I'm sorry, but I'm
going with Letty.
And she's like, that's fine.
I think I get it with her amnesiac girlfriend.
Your first love, break my heart in the process.
But hey, what a good guy you are Dominic Toretto.

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No, I, I've said it a million times, but um, five is where it ramps up in terms of it becomes
a different franchise.
And actually, and again, I will stand by like the bike, the bank high sequence with the
cables attached to the safes was actually pretty cool.
Marcus, it's pretty dope.
They use two superchargers with tow cables, like straight out of Hoff.

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Yeah.
Like, and they attach it to a, what would they say?
Like a four ton safe or something like that.
And they're just whipping it.
They're whipping this safe via tow cables around the streets of Rio, like through bank
buildings, just flipping over cars they're using.

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Okay.
So they use their cars.
How do I explain this?
The cars are extensions of their superpowers.
Like anything they want the car to do, it just does like physics and geometry and it's
a good way to put it actually calculus be damned.
Like it doesn't matter.
Like nothing, nothing matters except what these guys want to do with these cars.

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Like do we need it to turn 90 degrees at going 90 miles an hour without losing any momentum?
Yep.
We're just going to do that now.
No problem.
Like forget centrifugal force and we're whipping around a four ton safe behind us.
Like as soon as we make that right turn, it's going to straighten out.
There's no way it's going to travel beyond and whip around and hit us.
No fucking way.

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It's amazing.
Marcus, these movies exist in a universe of their own.
They have completely removed themselves from the physical realm that we know and are now
inhabiting a world of superpowers.
The fast universe.
It's amazing.
And you know what?
They get more progressively.
Yeah.

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And you know what?
All credit goes to Justin Lin.
Like when they introduced him or the writers, the writers apparently in four and five had
a pretty good idea of where they wanted to go with it too.
And they've, they've been pretty consistent in like the writing team of fast or they know
like, we know when this, where this franchise is going to end.
It's just a question of filling in the blanks to get there with absurdity.

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Absurdity is the perfect word.
I just wanted to give some, the writer some credit because apparently they do.
They have the team kind of laid it all out with like, all right, here's, here's where
we're going to go with this.
Yeah, but, but, but again, you bring in a brilliant director like Justin Lin who understands
that vision and is like, I got you fam.
Yeah, no, he's the guy for the job.
Certainly.
Like he, he elevates it and you know, those movies are whatever, like in that world they

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work man.
They still, they print money.
I mean, it is one ludicrous scene after another.
And I mean that ludicrous is in the movie.
Yeah.
I thought it was a great joke that I thought that deserved more.
I'm sorry.
The audience may be laughing their ass off right now, Michael.
You don't have to play to just me play to them, sir.

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I'm a big ludicrous fan, as a rapper.
He had a, he dropped an album every summer for a very long time.
And anytime I said featuring ludicrous, he was about to smash up the track.
That's right.
He was that guy for a minute for a long time.
Anyway, good.
But no, I do like the wind.
What movie would you say that he goes from like, and we mentioned it on the podcast before,

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but what movie does he go from like in number two, where he's just kind of like, Oh, I know
a guy and he like puts together all these street races and he's kind of like the, for
lack of a better term, Taj, right.
King of the underground kind of thing into like the ultra super computer hacker genius
that he becomes by the latter movies.
What movie does he make the pivot for?
Yeah.
Cause he's not in three.

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No, he's not in three.
Or he, he, if I remember correctly, he, he's just the guy who knows a guy kind of thing.
Yeah.
I think, I think five is when he's finally like, yeah.
Cause he walks in and he, they have the whole like computer setup.
He's like, finally, I got something I can work with.
And it's like six different monitors and three different keyboards and a swivel chair.

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They gave us character something else to do besides just being like, Hey, be a rapper,
but not a rapper.
Right.
Right.
So he would never play a rapper, but then when he got the script for hustle and flow
and he saw skinny black who is a rapper, he was like, he was such an asshole.
I had to play that guy.
So shout out to him for breaking his rules when you got a good script.

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He's like, yeah, don't want to pass up on that one.
So, well, and just to go on a tangent, like skinny black flow right now.
Yeah.
Yeah.
From, from hustle and flow, we never actually see him rap.
So like he's not going, it's not like it's a eight mile situation or something like that.
Like he's just playing an asshole.
Like that could be, he could have been a movie, a producer, a executive, whatever, whatever,

(38:45):
whatever.
It still would have had the same impact.
He doesn't necessarily have to be a rapper.
That's true.
That's true.
I just like the fact that he openly admitted like, yeah, at first I was like, I don't ever
want to play a rapper.
And then I got the script and I'm like, yeah, this dude's an asshole.
But no, he does ultimately in the, in fast and furious too.
He's not a rapper, but he's just seems to be a dude with connections that is just a

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more dialed down version of an influencer.
He's, it's just, it's just, it's just one of those, like, he's just famous for being
famous.
He's just famous for like, Oh, I'm the street racer guy.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So no, that is true.
Five is where he gets his more of the character.
That's when he becomes the Oracle or the guy in the chair.

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So funny.
We know that reference of what that really means.
And then him and Tyree started to kind of build their tension of like, I hate you in
five as well.
Right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I started to kind of chirp at each other a lot more.
Yeah.
I would call it a friendly rivalry or more of like a cousin situation where like, you
know, you're not necessarily family, family, but like you get along, but you give each

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other shit.
Yeah.
That's when they started to develop that in five.
Like I said, the franchise takes off at five, man.
I've sold, I told you before.
I said, I'm glad you read that we are revisiting it based on Marcus.
They killed so many people in Rio de Janeiro when they're whipping that, that safe around
several safes in it more than one.
I thought just, just the one.
And then they do a transfer where they're like, psych.

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It wasn't really the safe you thought it was.
I won't spoil it, but it's ridiculous.
And Marcus, yeah, they do build a safe.
Not knowing what the safe looks like.
They build some kind of replica.
Yes.
Exactly.
I forgot about that.
How would you know exactly?
Yeah.
Also you're, you're doing all this for $90 million.

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You probably spent conservatively 12, $15 million just to put this plan into action.
Like not a bad ROI, man.
You have $12 million at your disposal.
Just go do street races.
You're good.
Like why would nevermind?
Yeah, it doesn't matter.
Because family.
Yeah.

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Government spending.
It's a good point.
So it's so ridiculous.
It makes no sense.
I'm going to give, let's say let's rate five and move on.
Cause you got what?
Three more to cover.
Two more to cover.
Yes.
Yes.
I'm going to give, I'm going to give five, uh, one nine 11 in Rio de Janeiro.
It's because they wreck that city.

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They cause so much structural damage.
Yeah.
And they're foreigners though.
They're like, man, like who, why do we let these people show up and do this?
Like American purposes or whatever.
I'm going to rate it simply.
I fucks with five.
Okay.
A little bit of alliteration.
That's what I'm going to do.
I fucks with five with fast five.
So we're done with five.

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Let's talk a little, what is the name of six?
Is it just fast six?
Uh, I, so four was fast and furious.
It's not the fast and the furious, which is just fast and furious, which I just call
fast and furious.
That's a good one.
Five is called fast five, fast five.
And then I think fast six is the fast six.

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So I don't even know the title of it, but either way, we're going to roll right ahead.
Anyway, it's the six installment in the fast and furious franchise family.
Well, we got them, man.
Take me to a sign.
Uh, okay.
So looking over my notes, I think we got confused with the opening of five and six because six
is the one where they roll the bus.

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Okay.
Okay.
So I'm still, it doesn't matter to me.
It's all, they all run together.
There's James Bond movies at a certain point.
Oh yeah.
That was the spy who loved me and not moon raker.
Whoops.
Whatever.
Oops.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Oh, they introduced the rock.
Thank you.
And six.

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Yes.
Yes.
Yeah.
Who plays a version of himself.
I mean, does he play anything other than Moana?
He's pretty damn good in Moana.
Even then he's like, but I'm the best Demi-God, right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
There's a, yeah, either way, but still point, point taken.
I mean, yeah, it's kind of what he does.
That's kind of like he just plays a version of himself, but Hey, so does Snoop Dogg and

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everybody likes it.
Good point.
Actually I will credit.
We're credit to pain.
Speaking of which are living their best lives in the sense of like, they get paid just to
be themselves at this point.
Like if you cast Snoop Dogg in a commercial, you're like, just be Snoop Dogg for a second.
Do you see the most recent commercial that he had where he's sitting over whatever?
Yeah.
Yeah.

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Where he's literally, he comes on, he's like, I'm just in this cause they'll buy it if I'm
Snoop Dogg.
Yeah.
This is the best camper ever.
Yeah.
Buy it.
And he was like, bling paid just to be you.
Anyways, go ahead.
Fast six.
Um, yeah, this is where they fight the doppelganger version of themselves.
They reintroduce, uh, Michelle Rodriguez, uh, uh, what was her name?

(43:53):
Letty.
Letty.
Yeah.
Uh, they bring her back from the dead because she wasn't really dead and now she has the
amnesia and Vin Diesel tries to seduce her even though she shoots him in the shoulder
for some reason.
I don't know.
Fuck you.
It doesn't matter.
Car chase.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And then, so like, I guess the rock in is Vin Diesel's counterpoint.

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Letty and whatever is like the other doppelganger.
What's the new chick's name or is it Gal Gadot in this one?
Oh, it's go.
Oh yeah.
Oh yeah.
It's for sure.
But yeah.
Anyways, keep going.
I mean, so
I'm going to summarize the things of my life.
So this is
summarizing the plot of the two Fast and Furious movies back to back.

(44:35):
Marcus, go ahead.
This movie's insane too.
They're all crazy.
The rock jumps out of a moving car off of a like a like a parkway like ramp, you know,
like that spiral ramp way and on a parking garage.
Yeah.
Jumps from one level to the other.
Just flat chested like Jimmy Jimmy Soufly Snooka style.

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Just like it's so great.
And he walks away.
There's no entry.
There's no like, well, that sucked.
He punches through the roof of the car.
They have superhuman strength in this now, Marcus.
It gets worse by eight.
It's like redirect missiles.

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Oh, my God.
Marcus, they fight a tank.
Oh, I know.
They fight a tank.
I don't think I've seen six, but I saw seven.
So yeah, dude, it gets it just the they jumped the shark and then they jumped the shark with
rocket boots and then they're like, we could jump the shark if we give the shark a helicopter

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as well.
It's like they just one up each time with absurdity.
There is a scene.
There is a scene.
There is a scene where two opposing cars are driving on opposite sides of a highway like
like an overpass, like a bridge or whatever.

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There's a huge gap in the middle, like like just pit, just just ravine.
Right.
Uh huh.
Vin Diesel is standing on the hood of one car.
Letty is setting standing on the hood of the other car coming in opposite directions at
each other.
They managed to crash the car, jump at each other, meet halfway.

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And instead of just splatting and turning the jelly and falling down into this chasm,
rupturing every internal organ, somehow the momentum of Vin Diesel is enough to carry
them safely to the other side where they land on the windshield of a car.
And instead of penetrating through it and being slashed ribbons, just bounce up like,

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well, that was really fortunate that he was there.
Yeah.
Did you know you were going to catch me?
I had a feeling like, what are we talking about?
What is happening here?
I'm Vin Diesel can fly.
I'm glad you're starting to, I remember at one point in your life, you're like, I just
don't get those movies.
I'm like, you gotta get to five to realize like what this has become.

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It's I will admit, I will admit it does help if I'm like four to six drinks into it.
Yeah.
I don't doubt that for a second.
So there is that, but people line up to see these movies just knowing what like they just
embrace it now.
Like it's can't be nonsense.
It is lunacy.
There is nothing in this movie that makes sense.

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And yet it's awesome.
Marcus, it's awesome.
This legit fast and furious fan now aren't you?
The villain builds an F1 racing car with the ability to like go up underneath traditional
street racing cars and flip them Mario Kart style.
Yeah.
It's amazing.
And he just walks away.
He does the battle bots thing that the old show on comedy central.

(47:52):
Yes.
Get a shovel under the car and flip it.
Yeah.
That's, that's the creation he comes up with.
They crash off like 23 Wheeler, like this military style war rig from freaking from
a Mad Max fury road.
They run a cable and cut it in half.

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And then, Oh, by the way, there's a tank inside.
So it just rolls over every time about that part.
Yeah.
Somehow this tank is just firing randomly on civilians to distract and try and trap
in Dominic Toretto and his crew.
There are so many people that died in this needlessly.
This was a terrorist act.

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This was nine 11 times a thousand, which I can't even do that math.
Way too much math.
Way too much math there.
Marcus, this movie is nuts.
They stop a tank by just anchoring it, just like, Oh yeah, that'll just stop it.
And it flips and then it's like legitimate.
They're like this thing weighed 10 million pounds beforehand was rolling all over everything.

(48:59):
Now all of a sudden it's made of paper.
Yeah.
Plot armor.
These hero, Michael, the contracts alone for these movies, I don't even, I don't even mean
just like the sum of, of the money that they're spending for these guys.
Now that you know, it's a certified blockbuster, like, you know, you're going to make a billion
dollars off of these doors, but I just mean like the amount of like, what people don't

(49:22):
know is some of these action heroes.
They have what we call hit counts in a movie where you can't get beat up that bad.
If you're the protagonist and like, I know Jason Statham has Jason Statham have Statham
has one in his contracts.
I know the rock has one Vin Diesel produces these movies and it's just like anything that
goes against his character or what he feels is a, is a trespass against the fast and furious

(49:45):
franchise.
Nobody ever getting beat up.
Yeah, no.
The every, everybody goes hit for hitting this.
Everybody walks away.
Like there's no definitive winner.
It's two framed Roger Rabbit in the sense of like, they must have the equal amount of
hit Mickey Mouse and sir Mickey Mouse and bugs bunny.
Most have must have exact like screen frame time.

(50:05):
Yeah.
It's like the same amount of drawings.
Right.
Right.
Yeah.
So I just picture the contracts of these stars and they're, you know, Premadonna.
Oh God.
It's so, it's so ridiculous in this movie.
The rock is so bad ass.
He convinces a guy to give up his clothes like the Terminator.

(50:28):
Oh yeah.
Just like, Hey, that's a nice watch.
Let me take that.
Also give me your shirt.
Also you know what?
Those pants really match this shirt.
You should give it to me.
She's like me.
Yep.
Yes, sir.
Mr. Mr. Johnson.
He's like the ATF agent or something like that.
Right.
He's DDS.
I don't know what that means, but it's like directive defensive service or something like

(50:48):
that.
They're like military contractors, but like employed by whatever the fuck country they
need to.
Yeah.
But they're like specialized in stopping street racing or something absurd.
Like it's like the counterpoint to Dominic Toretto's.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Exactly.
Because since Dominic Toretto was so successful, there's been a rise in the, in the style of

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high street racing theft.
Sir, sir.
This is a world where it like high octane mid mid highway robberies are just commonplace
now.
This is just a thing.
It's grand theft auto online is what it's become.
Yeah.
Where it's like you have multiple players entering each on their own missions, each

(51:32):
just causing chaos through the city of whatever.
Yeah.
That's what it's become.
That's the best way I can describe the fast and furious movies.
It's a grand theft auto online.
It's not.
I have in my, I have in my notes, and this is worth noting tank escape, dangerous highway
stunts.
Who cares about collateral damages and loss of life?
Whatever.
We got a fucking car tank.
Fuck you.
You took my, uh, my, my cough out of me right there, sir.

(51:58):
Yeah, man.
It's, I don't know what to say except yep.
You're right.
And on every one of these, it's absurd, Michael.
They have, what is your favorite part of six?
Well, like I would say five.
You liked the, the, the bank heist read or what is where the, where the ripping, whipping
around the, the, the safe through the streets of Rio.
That was pretty dope.

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What is your favorite part of six?
See, that's kind of a tie because it's mostly just, um, the rock and Vin Diesel staring
ominously at each other and like making vague threats of like, I wish you would, like I
could.
Like, what are you fucking somebody either kiss or fight?

(52:39):
What are you going to do?
Crux of the movie is like very homoerotic, very lot of tension amongst male characters
in that sense.
Oh, and the rock is sweating in every single scene, sweating.
Nobody else is sweating.
And this dude just like glycerin falling off his forehead in heavy droplets.

(53:00):
I'm not trying to accuse anybody, but if I were to make an assumption about the rock
careful now, and if you look at, that's my personal friend.
If you look at him in previous movies and his size and how vascular he is, like, I don't
know two movies before that, whenever he was in, and then look at him in this movie, I'm
just going to say he has one heck of a physical trainer and personal chef or whatever the

(53:25):
hell it is to amass like 60 pounds of raw muscle and increase your, your vascular, uh,
volume, I don't know, two and a half times in like a span of a year.
Listen, that is clean living.
That is boiled fish four times a day.
Keen wah, uh, maybe occasionally red wine, according to him.

(53:48):
I don't know what you're trying to apply, sir.
I won't have you talk about my friend Dwayne the rock Johnson like that.
Anyways, I'm just saying personal friends, please come in the car on the podcast.
I'm, I'm just saying, I want to know your, your regiment.
And I'm, I'm sure if I follow it exactly as you lay out, I'm sure I'll yield the exact
same results.
I'm sure anyways, that's just my, what you're going to want to do is you're going to want

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to drain a horse like a vampire.
Oh man.
Oh man.
Oh yeah.
It's amazing.
I can't, what's your favorite part of six though?
You never, yeah.
Sorry.
We got distracted.
Oh yeah.
Uh, uh, you got stopped on the, the, the, the snarling tension between Vin diesel and

(54:35):
the rock is great.
The tank escape scene is pretty awesome.
Uh, oh, oh, at some point the rock.
And then diesel team up to fight the two, like main henchmen, the two goons and they
do a doomsday device where like one of them puts the bad guy on his shoulder and the other
guy jumps off the ropes and knocks him off of the clothes.
Oh yeah.

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They do a literal doomsday device.
I literally stopped and went doomsday device.
Michael's calling out wrestling.
I was, it was great.
Oh, oh, my favorite part, my favorite part, the very end where they finally tie in how
Han died in three, but he's been back through like five, six and whatever.
Like, because apparently now three takes place in between six and seven, whatever.

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Fuck you.
Yeah.
A little bow.
Well, continuity doesn't matter.
A little bow.
Well, it comes back.
Jason Statham stinger.
Oh yeah.
That's where he hops or he Shaw, isn't he?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Where he's Shaw.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And then the guy who was behind the mecha nations of, of fast and furious three the entire

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time.
Like, yes, please.
Can we bring in Jason Statham?
I'm so excited to see how he fits into this.
Please.
Yeah.
It, I don't even, I know I've seen seven.
I know Tony Jaws in it briefly and he fights Paul Walker.
It's seven.
Yeah.
He's in some briefly.
Yeah.
What?
Yeah.

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And he fights Paul Walker.
Yeah.
Oh yeah.
And he's in what Tony Jaws could not.
Pretty much.
Oh, pretty much.
Yeah.
I see your joke there.
Terrible.
Oh man.
So are we, are we still fast and furious thing or what?
What are you?
I am so into these at this point, Marcus.
I'm so glad man.
We'll, we'll come back to seven, eight and nine.
I'm trying to get, I'm trying to get shoulders deep in this.

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Let's do it, buddy.
This, they can only get better at some point.
Apparently they go to space.
Michael, I don't want to spoil it for you, but yes, like I said, they divert missiles.
We're like two steps away from legitimate tie fighters and, and X-Wings.
Like it's, we're that close in the scale of absurdity and what they can do and like the
access they have to like anybody.

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Oh, they have any government would have been like, can we just drone strike these dudes
and call this exactly.
Exactly.
These are terrorists.
Right, right, right.
So we're going to pay you $11 million to destroy our city when we could just spend 2 million
on a drone strike and hit these guys when they're on a convoy somewhere.
Nevermind.
It's absurd.

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It's Marcus.
It's insane.
It's and again, all credit goes to Justin Lin because he literally just had the idea
of like, okay, so hear me out.
It's fast and the furious, but what if their cars were ninjas?
That's a good way to describe it.
What if the cars were just extensions of their superpowers and now anytime they're behind

(57:29):
the wheel of a car, they can do anything.
That is the most app description I've ever heard of that.
It's only going to get better.
I can't wait.
It's ridiculous.
It's worse and better.
It's worse because it's better and it's better because it's worse.
So just buckle up.
And I mean that pun intended.
There we go.
All right.

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Okay.
That's a good, that's a good rating actually.
Yeah.
Buckle up.
There you go.
There we go.
So what do you rate it?
Oh man, I'm going to give it a, oh man.
Fast six.
I'm going to give it a physics and geometry be damned.
We're not scientists.
Doc.
We ain't scientists doc.

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That's our dedication to you.
Our fans are legions.
Any who's brother.
Yes, sir.
The other reason they tune in.
I've been flapping my gums telling all about fast and furiousness and family.
I appreciate what you've been watching my man.
First off, I've been getting off the flu to keep with the alliteration.
So pardon my.
So no, man, I there was a lot of things that we were going to talk about that just kind

(01:00:42):
of fell by the wayside.
Still watching cartoons, still keeping up with sports activities, watching a little
bit of NFL hard knocks.
OK, you know, they're doing instead of they usually just do one team midseason.
But in this particular season, they're doing all four teams of the AFC North.
So for those that don't know, that would be the Baltimore Ravens, the Pittsburgh Steelers,

(01:01:06):
the Cleveland Browns and Cincinnati Bengals.
They're kind of doing a all season.
What a riveting season, I'm sure.
Well, the Ravens and the Pittsburgh Steelers are doing pretty well.
The Browns had Jameis Winston playing and that was interesting.
All right.
OK, charismatic dude, but he just got benched, so he won't probably be starting in the show
next week, but they're just trying to change up the pace.

(01:01:29):
It gets really formulaic when he's just like, we'll do this team now.
And it's like really hit or miss if it's even interesting whatsoever who wants to reveal
personalities.
But this one, you can tell the star of the show is the coach of the Steelers, Mike Tomlin.
He's just an old school dude.
And he's like really one of the last few defensive oriented coaches that's like you could tell

(01:01:51):
where he spends his time.
OK.
He's very much so a tone setter and he's a really no nonsense dude.
And if you're ever looking for somebody to win the podium post game, pre game interviews,
that's your guy.
OK, he'll just go up there and just say like he he benched one guy and started Russell
Wilson at quarterback.
And they're like, what made you decide to do that?

(01:02:12):
He's like, because I'm highly compensated and that's why they pay me.
And it ended up working out and they went on this really great winning streak.
And he's like, yeah, that's why I'm highly compensated.
You know, so it's kind of what they pay me to do.
Yeah, it's kind of like it's just kind of the flavor you get.
So between that and just some likable, some likable guys on the Ravens.
So shout out to all my Baltimore people.
Sounds like a bird or something.

(01:02:34):
So yeah, that's kind of midseason.
And then just I get really caught up with sports during during this time of the year
and went on a cruise recently to Turks and Caicos.
Oh, Turks and Caicos.
We actually just saw most people can only afford Caicos.
We went to Turk, which was a seven mile island.
And so we saw most of it.

(01:02:54):
We just rented a golf cart and rode around and a lot of wild donkeys there.
Sweet.
It's pretty cool.
Some of them are very sweet and are interested in you trying to give them some food.
But we fell short of because we didn't have any carrots or anything.
I do love a great ass.
There you go.
Thanks, Al Pacino.
Oh, wow.
Oh, wow.
So outside of that, though, man, I'm just trying to I wrapped up a little bit of late Christmas

(01:03:16):
watching.
OK, OK.
And I don't want to spend too much time on it because we did talk about it last Christmas.
But I did watch a Muppet Christmas Carol again.
How good is that?
Man, I'm willing to throw its its name in there with some classics.
And I'll see.
I'll mention a couple of movies that we've talked about on the podcast before and I'll
let you at home see if you can figure out where we're going with this.

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I'm going to mention it with the ranks of the movies like Jaws.
Oh, OK.
With the ranks of Iron Man 1.
Oh, spoken about.
Which we've talked about.
Indiana Jones, the very first one there.
Uh huh.
Uh huh.
Raiders, right?
Yeah, Raiders.
And I know that there's others that we've discussed, but I'm talking about throwing

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it in the realm of what we call a perfect movie.
I think a Muppet Christmas Carol may hit the mark, man.
OK, OK, OK.
Maybe too campy, but I'm finding hard time arguing against that, actually, because highly

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enjoyable movie.
Like, if you ask me which Christmas movie I want to watch, it's probably going to be
that one.
Little musical, little emotional.
There's great acting.
I mean, Michael Caine swings for the fence.
He crushes it.
I mean, we've said it like 40 times on the show, but it works well because he treats
the Muppets as actors and he treats them with reverence.

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So that's why this one works.
There's no winking at the camera from him.
Right.
He treats acting alongside Kermit with the same reverence as like Laurence Olivier or
something like that.
Yeah, yeah.
And so there's no winking at the camera from him.
But it just works, man.
They do the musical thing, which I like, in terms of they introduce things with music,

(01:05:05):
in terms of whether it just be setting.
It's like, hey, it's Christmas Day.
We're going to sing about London, whatever.
You get settings.
Scrooge, what a miser.
Yeah, yeah.
So you get vital information from it and then they don't double down again in the songs.
They call back at the very final song to some of the earlier pieces.
But that's like a medley.
Yeah, yeah.
They just throw in part of the score just real quick in that just to try to like, hey,

(01:05:28):
here's how far we've come, which take it, let it leave it.
That's kind of how it operates.
I don't know.
It's good though, man.
It's genuinely very funny.
The music works.
You say campy, it's like it's a Muppet movie.
Sure, sure.
I don't know, man.
I think it's up there.
It's emotional in some senses, the way that he is genuinely disturbed and distraught.

(01:05:51):
He wants to truly change his ways by the end of it and you believe it.
What we consider to be a perfect movie of like, is there any part of it where you, not
only just within the realms of like suspending your disbelief, but can you pull it any plot
threads?
Can you pull it like, yeah, but the makeup in that one scene really took me out of it.
Sure, sure.
It's something that like you kind of pull on that and the whole thing kind of unravels.

(01:06:12):
Again, we've talked about it a thousand times where it's like, here's the parameters.
If you can see my hands, I'm holding up a side of like parentheses almost.
Everything within these parentheses is what we're allowed to do.
As long as we stay within these rules that we've set up, we're good.
If we're watching a Superman movie and all of a sudden Superman can do all these things,
he has laser eyes and ice breath and whatever, and you buy into that, that's his power set.

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And then at the end of the movie, in the third act, when he just needs to breathe underwater,
now we can do that.
You're like, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
Or reverse time by flying backwards.
Right, right.
Yeah, that's a better example.
Right, right.
Where you're like, wait a second, wait a second.
Right, right.
Or erase Lois Lane's memory with just a kiss.
Yeah.
Like, when did he do that?
When did he get roofie powers?

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So that's what we mean.
And I think the Muppet Christmas Carol fits the bill, man.
I would say in retrospect, thinking about, I said it was too campy.
You're right.
It is a Muppet movie.
So why wouldn't it be campy?
I think that that's directly part of the recipe.
You know, like you're going to have these vaudeville jokes and the over the top, you

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know, rats flying and getting sent into, you know, lantern boxes and lighting on fire
and stuff.
Yeah, of course.
Gonzo directly addresses, I mean, he breaks the fourth wall the whole time.
He's like, what are you talking to?
He's like, I'm the narrator.
He's like, how do you know that?
He's like, I'm the narrator.
I'm omniscient.
Right, right.
Omniscient.
Yeah.
So the camp never really bothered me in terms of we're openly winking at the camera from

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the opening frame.
Yeah.
I don't know.
I don't want to spend a tremendous amount of time on it.
I just wanted to hear your thoughts about introducing it into, you know, I know it's
not like a wall of fame situation in terms of its consideration for being a perfect movie.
Honestly, I've heard or read before that that that movie is the closest iteration to the

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original text in terms of lines directly taken from the original A Christmas Carol and then
repeated on screen with the exception of, of course, Gonzo breaking the fourth wall
and Rizzo's little sides or whatever.
But for the most part, they follow it almost like the play very, very directly.

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That being said, I mean, yeah, Michael Caine's pretty on point.
It's funny.
You get, you know, Robin, the little frog playing Tiny Tim, you know, God bless us.
Everyone.
I was going to say they cast the right muppets in the roles.
Yeah.
And then they're having Bozington, whatever, who works at the rubber chicken factory.

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Yes.
Yes.
Yeah.
That's exactly.
Bozington.
Yeah.
Bozington.
Yeah.
And he's like his address to everyone.
He's like, I wrote a speech like a Merry Christmas to all.
Right.
The guys rip them.
Murphy Murphy and Murphy or Marley Marley.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Marley Marley.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Played by Waldo and Stadler.

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Waldo Stadler and Waldorf.
Yes.
Stadler and Waldorf.
And then the two old dudes who heckle everybody.
That's right.
So yeah, I just, I like that.
Hey, get up.
We're leaving.
Is it over?
No, but we're leaving.
I did want piggy, Miss Piggy and Kermit to have like one abomination child because they
had we're like half frog.
Kill me.
Yeah.

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Like I kind of wanted to say, I want to put the movie over the top because like all the
feet, all the daughters were pigs and all the boys were frogs.
I just want to have like one abomination.
It's like they keep chained in the basement.
Go throw down the scraps to your sister, brother.
To the frog pig.
To the frog pig.
So yeah.
Was it a good Christmas, brother?

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Oh man, poor guy.
He didn't ask for this.
Anyways, I'm sure that that Muppet exists somewhere crudely stitched together.
I want to see it now.
I know.
Kind of rad.
So I'm happy to report it.
Sounds like we're introducing Muppet Christmas Carol into the perfect movies.
I'm not necessarily opposed to that, but you know what?

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If you have any conflict with that idea, write us in at what you've been watching at gmail.com.
What you've been watching podcasts at gmail.com.
Slide in the DMs.
Yeah.
Let us know.
Well done there.
Way to plug back to the community, Michael.
Yeah.
Write us in.
Let us know what you think.
And the next thing I watched.
Yes, sir.
Oh wait.
What do you rate Muppet Christmas Carol?

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I will rate it one weird ghost of Christmas past who's supposed to be a girl, but they
didn't actually want to cast like a little girl.
So they just made a really oddly shaped Muppet ghost little girl.
Okay.
That's what I'll rate it.
It works is what I'm saying.

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Okay.
That exactly translate to it's a perfect movie.
That's a long way around.
Now the other movie I watched, so I spent a little time on Disney plus clearly.
Um, did I watched a goofy movie?
Oh dude, I love a goofy movie that came out what?
1995.
Oh wow.
Okay.
Okay.

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I remember really liking that movie as a kid and I watched it for the first time as an adult.
The movie holds up man.
Yeah.
It's a really, really good like road trip movie.
Yeah.
Father and son road trip movie.
Yeah.
And it also does the whole, you know, everything could be solved if, if everyone wasn't so
short-sighted and I started picking on, uh, the main cat Roxanne, the one who max has

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a crush on.
Yeah.
Goofy son, the girl he's interested in.
Yeah.
Yeah.
There's a goofy and his son, max.
And then max is really into Roxanne.
And at first, you know, they want to, he finally works up the courage and asked her to go to
a party to watch the power line concert at her friend's house.
And he has to bail because goofy is like, we're going on a vacation because I feel like
I'm losing you as a son.

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Right.
Right.
And so he lies to Roxanne and says, well, I'm going to the power line concert because
my dad knows I'm going to be on stage.
And so it clearly it's a, it's a, you have to be on two dates at the same time.
Right.
Exactly.
Exactly.
Right.
And so that's the, the, the part of it.
And when, when he, one of the things I bumped up to, but once I took a step back and realized
is when he tells Roxanne, he tries to cancel the date being like, Hey, look, it's my dad.

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And she's like, well, I guess I'll just go with somebody else then.
At first I was like, man, what a bitch.
She should just understand that this isn't his doing.
And then I realized I'm like, Oh, they're emotional teenagers.
Right.
And some reason I bought back into like, yeah, they're not going to make rash decisions.
And this is how am I going to call her a bitch for being rash when I don't call him an asshole
for outright lying to her.

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Right.
Right.
Right.
I know power line, you know, and it's teenagers.
Right.
And once I, something clicked in that of being like, Oh yeah, they're not going to have it
all figured out.
Huh.
Young and interesting.
Yeah.
I just gave it, I gave it a pass.
And the impetuousness of youth kind of thing, or the, the, maybe the desire to be cool or
just like, I just, I really just want you to like me, you know, that overwhelming desire

(01:13:08):
of, of teenagers and young adults just be like, just to prove, just to prove pretty
much.
And he had already spoken to her and like Astor, I was this whole plan of like the last
day of school.
He's like, got him and Polly Shore.
We're going to, you know, put on a fake power line concert, shout out to power line.
And what's his name, Telvin, who sang power line, Telvin something.

(01:13:30):
That's on you brother.
I don't know that real quick.
Hang on.
We'll be right back.
I will, I will say that is the perfect amalgamation of like late night, late eighties, early nineties,
pop singers.
Like he's the perfect blend of Michael Jackson and Prince.
And might I just say that his song, uh, what is it?

(01:13:56):
High wire or high life power line.
Yeah.
It's Tevin Campbell.
Let's see what it was.
Tevin Campbell.
Okay.
That song is a banger.
Yes.
It says right here.
I'm sorry.
I was Googling all you were talking to says power line was inspired by a mix of Michael
Jackson, Prince and Bobby Brown.
Perfect.
There we go.
Pretty big nail that if you want for it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think it's a song actually we're saying, Hey, that's why we cut it off there.

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No, it works.
Like he said, it is a good road trip movie.
It's a good father, son movie.
Actually.
It's a good in a weird way, kind of coming of age tale about how to be a dad.
And there's a scene where he says, you know, kind of goofy and Max as the road trip goes
off the road and off the rails about kind of just goofy tells them like, I just felt

(01:14:43):
like I was losing you.
And maybe he overreached by being over going on an impromptu trip to Idaho to go to Lake
Destiny.
He didn't listen to a son in that movement.
And he said, you know, no matter what you're doing, I just want to be a part of your life.
Right.
And he says in such a heartfelt way and I'm butchering the line, but it actually is really
heartfelt of like, I don't, I just want to be a part of it, whatever it is, man, just

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don't box me out.
I don't want to be you grow up from the sideline.
It's a single dad who has always been there for her son and always been in part of his
son's life.
And now that his son is becoming a man and finding his own decisions and trying to find
his way in the world, they're drifting apart.
And it's, it's him trying to reclaim, albeit in it's an impulsive move, but it's still,

(01:15:35):
it comes from the place of general concern and general, general love, you know, like
it's, I want to still be a part of my son before I lose him forever.
You know, he's growing up, he's going to go to college.
We're going to drift apart.
What's the lasting impression that I'm going to have in my kid?
And you know, the kid is meanwhile, like, you got to let me do my thing.

(01:15:56):
You got to, you got to let me figure out what my path in this, in this world is.
Like you're doing your goofy thing.
I got my max thing and sometimes those things are just incompatible.
The movie opens on a dream sequence of him running to Roxanne through a field.
And when he finally gets there, he becomes his dad and his feet grow and the little knot
on his head, he goes, oh yeah.

(01:16:16):
Let's out one of the, oh yeah.
And so that's his fear.
He's like, I don't want to be this guy, but it's like, man, your dad actually has a lot
of good qualities in terms of being a father and he's genuinely, he's genuine.
Like what lover hate is goofiness.
He's who he is and he's not afraid to be that.
He's not afraid to go to the possum hoedown and like have a good time and dance and be
silly and it's while it annoys the crap out of you.

(01:16:38):
So you gotta have, there's something about authenticity that he's trying.
He's putting in the effort.
He's maybe not listening to Max's wants and, and hierarchy of needs in terms of growing
out of his father's shadow, but he's not, it's harmless.
He's not doing it to try and maliciously or to try and like, yeah, sabotage or put Max

(01:17:04):
in a box.
He just wants to be there and that's a really heartfelt sentiment.
It really gets you there and Max is certainly not wrong in the sense of if, if he could
have expressed like dad, I don't mind taking a trip with you.
Like I got, I just had the courage to work.
Like finally things are going well for me at school.
I'm not being picked on.
I'm not being like, I did this cool dance in front of everybody and they thought I was

(01:17:26):
and then I got in trouble with the principal and you know, you can't tell them all that,
but like, and now the girl wants me to go to a party on Friday.
It's like we can leave Sunday.
How about that dad?
You know, but goofy is afraid he's losing his son and he feels the pressure of time
and he's listening to his boss, Pete, who's telling him like, you gotta, you know, tells
him on the whole movie, you gotta keep them under your thumb.
And there's a cool scene where Pete later catches up with goofy on the road and he says,

(01:17:50):
uh, and they're kind of having a talk about like, Hey, goof, I hate to tell you, your
son changed the map.
You're going to LA.
You're going to go into whatever.
And he's like, you know what?
My son may not be perfect, but I know my son loves me.
And he kind of says like, what can you say about your kid?
Well, my son respects me.
And he's like, sure.
He does.
And he just kind of walks on, respects you kind of thing.
And you can tell at that point, goofy was willing to listen to outside sources, but

(01:18:15):
not listen to his son.
And so it's, it's actually a pretty good movie in the terms of it being a father son tale
and a little bit of coming of age, like I mentioned.
And it's also goofy is an underrated freaking character in all the cartoon to him.
And he crushes, like he is the king of prat falls and, and, and, and horrible pranks.

(01:18:36):
Like, like the, the king of like, anytime you need somebody to fall flat on their face,
goofy is your guy.
Yeah.
And he's awesome in this movie.
He's perfect.
I, this wouldn't work if it was, I can't see it working if it was a Donald duck movie,
you know what I mean?
Or, or a fill in the market.
Sure.
Sure.
It would just be different.
I mean, the title and everything, a goofy movie, it plays, man, it plays.
Well, because goofy is, he's the buster Keaton of, of, of the, the Warner brothers or not

(01:19:04):
Warner Disney family in terms of he's the man who's going to try so hard to do the right
thing and just constantly fail, albeit somehow upwards.
Like he's constantly falling flat on his face, but yet he somehow finds a way to make it
work out just by sheer gumption or just tenacity.

(01:19:27):
Divine intervention at some point.
Sure.
I sing a song about that, about like, Hey, sometimes you're insufferable and your, your
personality, you know, uh, you may, he says something, one of the lines in the song is
like people may think in so many words, like you're drunk or intoxicated, but that's just
you just kind of the hand you're dealt kind of.
Right.
Right.
So it's, I liked him.
I, I enjoy it all.

(01:19:47):
I enjoyed all 90 minutes of it truly.
But I walked away feeling like every beat that it wanted to hit, it worked on.
And so I actually got a little bit emotional at one scene.
Oh man, goofy movie, but choked me up a little bit.
I laughed at it.
It did every, every box that I think it wanted to check it did for me.
And I forgot that that movie did that.

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So I'll probably be revisiting this movie on a more regular basis.
It was actually really dug it, man.
Kind of emotionally cathartic or something like that.
Yeah.
And I remember like liking it as a kid too.
It wasn't like something like you go back and watch some of these movies.
You're like, this is right.
Why did I enjoy this?
Yeah.
You know, but this one actually, it holds up, man.

(01:20:27):
Okay.
So, okay.
And goofy is my guy too.
So shout out to him and kingdom hearts as well.
Appreciate him saving the day with Sora.
Nerd.
Yeah.
So on that note, I will rate a goofy movie too.
Good.
I like it.
I had, I did that with the flu too.

(01:20:48):
So, or recovering from it.
That's about all I've been watching though.
And also F the people on rotten tomatoes who got a goofy movie at 59%.
They got to pump those numbers up.
It's way better than a 59% movie.
I would agree.
I would point out your flaws and be hater ass.

(01:21:08):
Huey us at what you've been watching podcasts at gmail.com.
If you want to write in and dare challenge us as to what is wrong and why that 59% validity
is there on a, on rotten tomatoes.
I don't think you can.
I think everyone would be surprised by that number.
Fair enough.
So goofy movie.
All right.
Now here we go.
We're going to pivot out.

(01:21:29):
We're going to try to find a fun way to end this show.
I've been wanting to play this with Michael for a little while.
It's a game called this or that and what it is called this or that, this or that it's
time for this or that with your host.
Dizzle.

(01:21:49):
Dizzle.
That's all it is.
So I have, I'm going to shuffle up some cards real quick off mic and then we're going to
come back and I'll just explain how the game works real quick and we're going to do it
with movies, but I'm going to use things for the example that is not movies.
So let's just say the category would be ice cream.
You can use whatever metric you want to come up with your solution as to why you choose

(01:22:12):
what you choose.
I don't care.
It is irrelevant.
I don't need you to argue about what it is or explain it to me.
It could be different on each set of rounds.
But for example, let's just start.
Let's go chocolate or vanilla chocolate.
Okay.
Now vanilla is going to go into a pile and you're never going to see that again.
Okay.
All right.
But chocolate is going to stay until it gets bested.

(01:22:32):
Now if chocolate ends up being the winner, then it runs through the gamut.
I have 25 cards.
All right.
I got you.
So then we would go chocolate or strawberry.
I'm still going to be chocolate.
Okay.
And then we go chocolate or cookies and cream.
Cookies and cream.
Yeah.
And then you would never see chocolate again and it would be cookies and cream.

(01:22:54):
Okay.
Okay.
This so and so it's it's higher lander rules.
There can be only one pretty much.
And so don't try to hold on to it.
It's just simply look at the match at hand.
Don't be like, ah, but I don't want just the match at hand and you can use whatever metric
you want.
Okay.
So what do I want to watch right now?
Use that for one.
And then, well, I just genuinely like that movie better.
Whatever use it.

(01:23:14):
Okay.
Okay.
So I'm not beholden to any particular metric on each throughout the whole game.
I could, I could change it based on each question.
Yep.
Gotcha.
The hell you want to use.
Okay.
All right.
So let's get into it right now.

(01:23:38):
All right.
And we are back.
I just wanted to fire off this little show with you called this or that.
This or that.
Seinfeld voice.
So again, you're going to pick between these two.
The one that you pick is going to move on.
The one that you do not pick, you won't see again.

(01:23:58):
Goes away.
It goes away.
There can be only one.
Can be on the one.
All right.
Are you ready?
Let's do this, sir.
I have the good, the bad and the ugly.
Okay.
Or Ernest scared, stupid, controversial, but I'm going to go earn a scared, stupid.
I think that's the right call.
Okay.

(01:24:19):
Ooh.
Ernest Pete Warrell over Clint Eastwood all day.
And again, I shuffled these so I have no idea what the order is.
So we have Ernest scared, stupid, or we have walk hard.
The Dewey Cox story.
Oh shit.
It gets tough fast.
Oh, I got, I got to kill one of my childhood heroes.
It's going to be walk hard.

(01:24:39):
Walk hard.
Move on.
Walk hard.
I like the fact you're not overthinking this.
Yeah.
It's supposed to be a rapid pace game.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I don't feel good about it.
It's done.
Can I watch both?
Nope.
God damn it.
Again, it's your metrics that you set.
Walk hard or the crow?
The first crow with Brandon Lee.
Okay.
I was going to say walk hard or the crow.

(01:25:02):
Ah, ah, ah, ah.
I'm going to go walk hard.
I don't feel good about it.
Why are you doing this to me?
That's the game.
It's the game.
All right.
Are we ready?
I got to kill my darlings.
Look, walk hard came out early.
It's, it's going to be a tough contender, but we have again, walk hard or we have a
kid, a kid, a, as we like to say the anime or walk.

(01:25:28):
See, this one is hard because I really appreciate both for different reasons, but in the same
breath they both take really big swings with what they're trying to do and they both knock
it out of the park.
Oh, ah, I'm going to walk hard.
I like it.

(01:25:49):
It's on a tear.
It's on like a five game win streak.
Are we ready?
Oh man.
Okay.
Yeah.
There's 25 total of these, so I don't know how to follow around.
Okay.
Okay.
So I got a lot more.
Ooh, you're going to hate this one.
We have walk hard or we have Tropic Thunder.
Sophie's choice.
Holy shit.
Walk hard or Tropic Thunder.

(01:26:11):
Ah, oh, they're both so quotable.
They're both very good.
And they both, oh, Kristen Wigg is amazing in that, but also Robert Downey Jr. doing
blackface in our first ever underrated performance of the week.

(01:26:32):
You remember who it was?
Uh, Brandon T Jackson.
That's right.
Well played.
Oh, he was in Fast and Furious 4.
I forgot to mention.
Oh, he was?
Yeah.
Oh, he was one of the racers.
I didn't know that.
I literally was like, that's Al Pacino.
Yeah, that's right.
Anywho, so yeah, shout out to you.
Fast and Furious 4.
He is a friend of the show, Brandon T Jackson.

(01:26:52):
That's right.
Please come on.
Yeah, but we got walk hard or we got Tropic Thunder.
Oh, uh, oh, uh, damn it.
I don't, I don't like this game, Wendy.
You got to pick.
I'm going to go walk hard because it has funny musics.
There you go.

(01:27:12):
Walk hard on a tear.
Oh no.
Okay, here we go.
Walk hard or tombstone.
Oh shit.
Tombstone.
Tombstone.
Tombstone.
All right.
Tim's son moves on.
Shit.
Okay.
Shit.
Oh, here we go.
All right.
Can I say just based solely on the fact that Val Kilmer crushes any performance ever in

(01:27:34):
that movie?
Does John C. Reilly not though?
I was gone.
You're not, we can't go back.
I'm not picking it up.
I mean, does not the wind love the dirt?
You ladies man me sir.
All right, you ready for this next one?
Sure.
We have tombstone or we have face off.
Face off.

(01:27:55):
There we go.
Face off is going to be a hard contender.
I put movies I know you might like.
Face off is going to be a hard contender.
There's some good ones in here.
Okay.
Oh, you're about to, you say it's already contender.
Here's the one I thought was going to win.
We have face off or we have the princess bride.
Son of a bitch.
Face off or the princess bride.

(01:28:19):
I got to go princess bride just based on how many times I've seen it.
There you go.
But I don't, no, no, we can't go back.
I'm not picking them up off the floor.
Not bending down there, sir.
Okay.
Rapid fire game.
Princess bride.
Okay.
Princess bride moves on over face off.
That's what that is.
I don't, it's done.

(01:28:40):
Okay.
It's done.
That might be the one I kind of, no, I don't agree.
I'm not going to credit.
I got to move forward.
We have the princess bride or we have the matrix.
Princess bride.
Okay.
Princess bride.
Again, I don't feel good about it, but it's just based on the sheer number of times I've
seen princess bride.
It's going to win out.
That's kind of what I thought.

(01:29:01):
All right.
We have the princess bride or we have up.
Oh, princess bride.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I got to remember to throw out the right card so that I don't have to get there and go on
the ground and pick it up.
Okay.
We have the princess bride or reality bites.
Again going to be princess bride.
That one's a little easier.
Okay.

(01:29:21):
All right.
This one, we have the princess bride or the dark night princess bride.
Okay.
Okay.
We have the princess.
No one's a hack.
No, stop.
Stop hitting that hater.
Ask you alarm.
He's a lot of things.
A hack isn't one of them.
His imagination may exceed his grasp at some point.

(01:29:43):
He's pretentious.
Okay.
It insists upon itself.
Right.
Okay.
We have the princess bride or we have pulp fiction.
Oh, man.
Princess bride or pulp fiction.
They're both movies done in a modern classical style.

(01:30:06):
I can't.
Oh, so quotable.
I'm Uma Thurman.
Yeah.
Also Sam Jack.
Sam Jackson.
Also Sean Wallace.
But also the dread pirate.
Also R.R.U.S.
Yeah.
I'm going to go princess bride, princess bride.

(01:30:26):
Yeah.
It's done.
It's on the floor.
Yep.
See the hard part is moving on.
It's on the floor.
The hard part is the rapid fire of it.
Like if I want to sit here and contemplate and have time to think about it, but the fact
that you're like I need an answer, it's just like fuck.
I just the way the game goes, Michael.
Okay.
Tough decisions.
We have the princess bride or sin of a woman.

(01:30:50):
Ooh, ah.
Scent of a woman.
As much as I love scent of a woman, it's going to be princess bride.
For sure.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
Here we go.
I was hoping we were going to get to some other matchups, but you'll see why.
We have the princess bride or we have Logan.
The third Wolverine movie.
Princess bride or Logan.

(01:31:12):
Damn.
Tough decisions being made right here.
Michael is actually sweating.
I'm going to choose princess bride, but just because it's my own, like I know that Logan
is a better movie, but just nostalgia for me.
I love princess bride.
You don't have to explain the metrics.
No, I do.
I appreciate you doing that because people will be mad.

(01:31:33):
You could change the metrics and this is very round and be like, I remember I ate a cheeseburger
one time while I was watching this next movie and I really liked that cheeseburger.
So that's why I'm going to pick that movie.
The metrics don't matter.
I can hear the angry emails coming in like dear ass faces.
Please write us in with a dear ass face and especially channel it towards Michael.
I'll read it and enjoy it.

(01:31:56):
Please.
Anyways, we have the princess bride or we have the godfather.
The princess bride or the godfather.
Princess bride is a shorter, funner movie.
I'm sorry.
Godfather is a masterpiece, but just give me an hour and 10 minutes of charm and fun

(01:32:16):
fantasy.
There is something about the princess bride that was mentioned earlier in the show that
we've considered this, but anyways, we have the princess bride or we have Godzilla minus
one.
Oh shit.
Godzilla minus one.
Again, I'm going to go princess bride just based on the floor.
I'm very quick with these.
I don't like any of these decisions I'm making.
It's too bad.

(01:32:36):
That's the point of it.
Anyways, we have the princess bride or we have dogma.
Kevin Smith's dogma or the princess bride.
Oh shit.
I do love me some dogma.
Chris Rock.
It's a good movie.
Alonso Morissette is God.
The great George Carlin.
Rest in peace.

(01:32:56):
That's right.
That's right.
We've seen both of these movies a lot though.
I know.
I know.
Dogma was in real heavy rotation.
This one I'm actually trying to think of which one I have seen more because it's a hard count.
I won't influence your decision by any means.
I just need an answer.

(01:33:17):
The princess bride.
It's going to be princess bride.
There it is.
The dogma was on the floor.
I hate it.
I hate it.
I hate it.
Okay.
I tried to match some of these up.
We have the princess bride or we have district nine.
Yeah, that's going to be princess bride.
Okay.
I'm telling you this one's on a tear.
I'm telling you what it takes man.
You have the princess bride or you have your beloved clerks.

(01:33:39):
Oh son of a bitch.
Here's the needy greedy.
The princess bride or Kevin Smith's directorial writing debut in clerks.
I'm going to go clerks.
Oh, it's on the floor.
It's grunge cinema.
There you go.
Clerks knocks off the princess bride.

(01:33:59):
Yeah.
Too bad it's on the floor.
I'm not going to mention that a thousand times and I'll mention it more.
I'm not going down there to shuffle through it.
We have clerks or we have blade runner.
Oh fuck.
I was going with the first blade runner on this one.
Right.
Yeah.
Yeah.

(01:34:20):
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Clerks or blade runner.
I mean blade runner.
It's such a beautiful movie.
Blade runner of a clerk.
Yeah.
I'm going to go blade runner.
Okay.
I'm going to go Iron Man.
Oh, Iron Man.
Iron Man.
Yeah, totally.
I mean, hold on.
I was dismissive of blade runner.
I want to be clear.
Like that's a gorgeous movie, but Iron Man is so fun.

(01:34:43):
Iron Man is not on the floor is what all you need to know.
There's a new card in my hand and it is Iron Man or Denis Velny.
Arrival with Jeremy Renner.
I'm going to go Iron Man just because arrival makes me really sad.
Yes, it does.
And our final one.

(01:35:03):
We have Iron Man or we have everything everywhere all at once.
Oh shit.
Iron Man or everything everywhere all at once.
I mean, Iron Man is a perfect movie.
But we did say everything everywhere all at once was a perfect movie as well, didn't we?

(01:35:26):
That's not about me or reconciling.
You know what?
You know what?
I am going to give it to everything everywhere all at once only because Iron Man set the
formula for the Marvel movies and then that became the recipe.
Whereas everything everywhere all at once was completely unlike anything I had seen up until

(01:35:47):
that point.
It is a completely unique movie into itself.
Well Iron Man's on the floor.
Here is your card.
We also officially have ended up with everything everywhere all at once.
And I will say that everything everywhere all at once is more to me instead of it being
wholly original.
I think it raided the fridge of every sorts of flavors that have been sitting around in

(01:36:09):
kung fu movies and this movie.
And then they put it into a new dish.
I would agree.
Okay.
That might be a better allegory.
Sure.
But yes.
Well, that's how you play this or that.
That's how you end up with that, my friend.
So next time we meet, we're going to I got a list for you that you are not going to like.
Twenty five movies and rapid fire.

(01:36:30):
That's all we got to do.
All right.
So on that note, do you got anything else you want to talk about, man?
Just thank you guys.
Happy New Year.
Thanks for sticking with us.
We got big things coming down the way.
Obviously we have the anniversary show coming up.
Look for us.
We're going to start hopefully incorporating some video here soon.
We'll see how it goes.

(01:36:51):
We're trying to make financial decisions to make that happen.
Very true.
So if you want to contribute, shoot, write us in with your Venmo and cash.
Send a blank check to what I've been watching podcast at Gmail dot com.
But now shout out to all the listeners.
Shout out to the Legion.
We genuinely appreciate everybody.
It's going to be a fun new year.

(01:37:11):
I hope, like I said, from us and ours to you and yours, nothing but the best.
That's right.
So go watch a movie and talk about it with someone.
That you love.

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