Episode #82 Home Fries, Face Huggers, and Satanic Television

It’s a Special Guest episode featuring the Middle Brother; MK_Dudley_Art! In this episode we tackle the fun of CyberPunk 2077 and the possibility of an Electric Boogaloo. We ponder on the late 90’s dark romance of HOME FRIES and ask if ALIEN: ROMULUS is killing the franchise (“Is he full of milk”?). We take a look at NOSFERATU and hear the most MKD statement EVER. We look into the occult with I SAW THE TV GLOW, LATE NIGHT WITH THE DEVIL, and IMMACULATE.

Episode Transcript

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Hello, hello, legions once again.
And one and all, welcome to another very, very special episode of the What You Been
Watching podcast.
I am your host, the marvelous Mike Dudley, joined, uh oh, not as always by my co-host,

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co-vort, but he is a younger brother.
My man in the hot seat, my friends, legions, one and all, co-pilot for this mission through
obscurity and absurdity.
MK Dudley.
Yo, what up?
How are you, sir?
Good, good.
Middle brother.
Chillin'.
That's right, you might know him from that beautiful bright banner that you click on every

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time you go to get your audio files fixed.
Yeah, that's true.
So thank you for that, man.
That design is a banger.
We love it.
Every time we show it off to people, it's like, oh, I love that.
It's so like, it's easy, it's simple.
Yeah, it's very retro, but like, I get it.
Cool, so, uh, why am I here?

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Why are you here, sir?
Well, you're fillin' in for the illustrious MD3, but that's okay.
We're gonna keep things nice and breezy, keep it rollin'.
This is not gonna be a gotcha piece.
I messaged him and I was like, what are you ambushing me with today?
He's like, this is not an ambush, I was like, that's very believable.

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That's exactly what Diann Sawyer says.
That's what they were saying before they ambushed you.
Anyhoo's.
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We wanna give a big shout out to Ketza for our intro music Always Bright, which is Always
a Banger and Always Suits My Ear-Holes when I hear those horn-start of blarin'.
We also wanna thank Mr. A1.
The man is a quadruple threat.
He sings, he produces, he writes.

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What else does he do, Matthew?
I don't know, I just wanted to thank our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ.
Also a plug to the Big JC.
The answer is, Matthew, he is a top tier sommelier.
This man can hook you up with the finest of crushed grapes.
Yeah.
So, anyway, I think that about covers the, you know, what you been up to, man, how you

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been?
Good, dude.
Plain cyberpunk right now.
Mix bag is GTA for Tesla Bros.
Okay.
It's fun though.
The graphics are at least pretty.
Yeah, it's cool.
It's fun.
Okay.
I've heard of people.
Didn't it, like that game had a lot of bugs when it first came out.
It did, yeah.
It was kind of a shit show to say the least.

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Okay.
Keanu Reeves, Idris Elba, a bunch of other people.
I think Jean-Carlo Esposito is in it.
Okay.
I know he's in the anime, which is really good actually.
What was the anime?
The...
Edge Runners.
Edge Runners.
Yeah, it's got Jean-Carlo Esposito, Matt Bercer, a bunch of other...
Jean-Carlo Esposito is Gus Fring.
He's what?

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In Breaking Bad?
Oh, okay.
All right.
I can get that far in it.
I don't know.
Oh, he was...
He's in Far Cry.
He's in a bunch of stuff.
Okay, he was in Far Cry.
He was also...
Was he Radio Rahim in Do The Right Thing?
I don't know.
He's in a bunch of movies though.
He's in everything.
And it's like, you can't think of him because he's just that guy.

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Right, right.
Right.
He's in the book of Boba Fett and all that good stuff.
Oh, is he?
Yeah.
Okay.
He's the ultimate bad guy nowadays.
Sure.
He's the guy who's just...
Looks great in a suit too, so...
He does.
He does.
I think it's the eyes.
I think it's the...
He has this really intense, almost handable, lecture stare.
You know what I mean?

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Yeah.
His voice is so good too though.
He's perfect for...
He does.
He hands it up.
In Edge Runners, he's got a very big, bombastic personality for it.
That's not normal for him and great in the anime.
Okay.
So, Cyberpunk 2077, been playing that one?
Yep.
I also just bought the role-playing game for it.

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Haven't even busted it open yet.
Literally just got it.
That's all right.
So we have that look forward to on our game night.
Yep.
I'm going to do electric bugle with it.
Electric...
Oh, so like it's...
We're bringing it to...
Yeah, you're in a gang, a street gang, and said you got a damn gang.
You're going to dance it off.
Okay.
So it's like...
A little psych out.

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You thought we were playing Cyberpunk, we're actually playing electric bugle.
Sorry.
I'm down.
I mean, it sounds like The Warriors meets Fame.
Yeah, or like West Side Story.
There we go.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
When you're a jettier, a jet.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's going to be so dumb.
Okay.
Hey man, you know me.
I love a little bit of...

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Yeah.
We had... I just had a conversation with Glenn the other day and he was kind of his new philosophy
for the New Year's embracing the absurd.
Oh, great.
And just sort of, you know, life at any given moment when you objectively think about it
is just weird.
We're just...
We're all just ducks on a human planet trying to make our way.

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Ducks on a human planet.
Okay.
I mean, this might have been driven by the conversation.
Howard Duck.
Of course.
But yeah, that's his whole philosophy this year is just embracing the absurd and welcoming
the strange.
Life is serious and hard.
Why make it harder?
I mean...
Just be dumb.

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It's fine.
Yeah, be smart.
You know, don't do dumb things that are going to have horrible and lasting consequences.
You know, I mean, if the only lasting bad consequence you have is a bad tattoo, like...
Sure.
Maybe, you know, that's about where my line is, you know.
Yeah, so anyway, back to our original tangent of Giancarlo Esposito.

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The anime is great, man.
He's great in it.
I have this weird superpower where I can hear a voice actor and just immediately know...
Pick him out.
Not necessarily their name, but I know what they're from.
I just go down the rabbit hole and go, yeah, he's in this and that and that.
And I heard him one word from him and I was like, that's Giancarlo Esposito.
Matt Mercer shows up in it too.
He said...

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From what we do in the shadows?
No, Matt Mercer from Critical Role.
He's playing Vincent Valentine in...
Oh my, I'm thinking of Matthew Berry.
Oh yeah, not Berry.
Yeah, yeah, I wish that, yeah.
He's in Fallout though and he's great.
I love Matt Berry.
And just to go on a tangent about Matt Berry and how amazing he is in voice actors, he's

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an accomplished jazz musician and he does jazz, acid jazz and he has like nine records
out.
Okay.
And they're amazing.
They're so good.
So...
Did not know that.
Yeah, he's so good.
That's like learning Steve Martin plays the banjo like a motherfucker, you know what I mean?
He plays every instrument.

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Oh, does he?
Yeah, and he records it himself and it's just insane.
So he's like the prince of new wave acid jazz.
Correct.
Okay.
Yeah, he's great.
If you know the 60s, 70s artist Donovan.
I do not.
No, Season of the Witch.
Okay, yes.
Yeah, that's all.
I do know Season of the Witch.

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That's his big one.
But...
Okay.
Matt Berry's amazing.
So he's on Carl Heropt's espionage.
I have a superpower of like recognizing voice actors within five seconds.
So...
Okay, okay.
It's weird and just like my...
My neurons fire and I'm like, I know him.
I know who that is.

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I do pretty well as far as like picking out celebrity voices and stuff.
Every once in a while, I'll get stuck on one.
But for the most part, if I'm listening to an animated movie or one of the kids movie
or something like that, I can pick out, oh, that's whatever, whatever, whatever.
Yeah.
John Dragio, the guy that plays Bender.
And he was a bunch of other stuff too.

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Not what not...
From Adventure Time, what was the dog's name?
Jake.
Finn and Jake.
That's it.
Yes.
Yeah.
He was Jake from Adventure Time.
God, he's been in everything.
Yeah.
So I was...
I love Final Fantasy 10 and I recently found out that he's the voice of Waka, who is like
a Polynesian, like Hawaiian accent.
Okay.
Very funny as I should have known this.

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Okay.
Why didn't I know this?
I guess I'm just not used to hearing him as a Hawaiian.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He did a lot of voices on the boondocks too.
Did he?
Oh yeah.
He was like a gruff, gravelly voiced white dude.
He was the guy that...
Really?
Oh man.
I know he did Steve Wilkos in the infamous Granddad's Son episode.

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Oh, I don't remember that one.
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
This 38-year-old dude shows up on Granddad's doorstep and he's like, I'm your son.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And they end up going all the way to Steve Wilkos and Steve Wilkos gets in Granddad's
face and he's like, you're a punk ass motherfucker who never showed up, don't you?
And he's like, I didn't know.
I didn't know I had a son.
I don't remember that one.
Oh, great.
He throws a chair at Granddad and hits him.

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It's great.
I almost introduced myself to you as Thugnificent.
I thought it'd be funny and I'm like, no, no, no.
They need to know who I am.
I'm obviously not Thugnificent.
And we can take it back.
You want to take two on that one?
No, I'm good.
Yeah.
So anyway, watch the boondocks.
That's my message.

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Yeah.
So I guess I got to ask what you've been watching.
Oh, look who jumps right into the, my man.
I watched two very, very interesting movies.
One is about an alien invading your body and it changed your life forever.

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And the other one was Alien Romulus.
You know, bait and switch.
See, I watched Alien Romulus and Home Fries.
I have not even heard of Home Fries like.
Okay.
So Home Fries is a lovely little romcom, but it's a dark romcom as far as those go.

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Okay.
Starring Luke Wilson, Jake Busey and Drew Barrymore.
Okay.
With special appearances by Shelly Long and Slim Pickens.
Okay.
Oh, and Catherine O'Hara.
I forgot.
She plays the role.
I will watch anything for Catherine O'Hara.
She's amazing.
So long story short, Drew Barrymore plays a drive-thru server at like the local burger

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joint in like small town bum fuck like Mississippi, Alabama, whatever.
She at the beginning of the movie is knocked up by some random dude.
Okay.
Who is married to Catherine O'Hara.
After he goes and sees her and is, you know, trying to be like, baby, but I love you.
I'm going to tell my wife I'm going to leave her.
Don't worry.
I'm just like, I'm nine months pregnant.

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And so like whatever you're going to do, do it quick kind of thing, you know.
Anyway, he gets run off the road by this like Apache attack helicopter.
Okay.
And has a heart attack and dies.
Turns out that the attack helicopter is piloted by his two step sons who may or may not have
conspired with Catherine O'Hara to murder their father.

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With an attack helicopter.
Well, they just scare them.
They don't actually like shoot them or anything, but they do like that, like hovering six inches
from his face.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So he has a major heart heart attack and dies.
So the two, the two brothers are played by Jake Busey and Luke Wilson.
Jake Busey famously from Starship Troopers famously, right?

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That's what he's most famous for.
That's it.
Right.
Right.
And so basically they go home to Catherine O'Hara and Catherine O'Hara was like, well,
I never said kill him, kill him.
I just said scare him half to death, you know, like so whatever, whatever.
Jake Busey is total mama's boy.
You know, he's always sucking up to her and always like, mom, let me go, let me go get

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you some water.
Let me let me rub your feet.
Meanwhile, Luke Wilson is just like, why the fuck am I in this family?
Why Luke Wilson?
Yeah, not Owen Wilson.
Oh, my brain.
I ignore it.
Yeah.
From Idiocracy.
He's back.
Oh, this movie was filmed in 1998.
Oh, what really?
Yeah.
Oh, okay.
This was at peak Luke Wilson.
Yes, from Idiocracy.

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That's what he's also most famous for.
Yeah.
So yeah, so they decided that they need to investigate because some weird shit goes on.
So basically while they were scaring the hell out of their stepdad, they were getting calm
interference from her drive through window headset.

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Okay.
And so they're concerned that someone at this burger joint heard what they were doing.
Okay.
And so they decide the best way to go about it is Luke Wilson is going to infiltrate the
burger joint, get a job there, and then find out what people know.
Okay.
Okay.
Ask me if these two crazy cats fall in love, Matthew.

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Ask me.
Okay.
Do they fall in love?
Matthew, they fall in love and it is both awkward and delightful.
That was better.
So is the helicopter thing, is that in the first like two minutes of the movie?
Maybe not the first two, but the first five.
Okay.
Yeah.

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Yeah.
It just turns into a rom-com after...
Oh, by minute eight, stepdad is dead.
Okay.
Love it.
This sounds amazing.
They're not wasting the whole first act on this.
No, no, no, no, no, no.
Okay.
No.
Luke Wilson infiltrating the burger joint, having to do awkward stuff.
He ends up stopping a robbery that was staged by Drew Barrymore's dad, played by Slim Pickens.

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Okay.
Shelly Duvall is her mom.
Okay.
I'm Shelly Duvall.
Yeah.
Dad sounds amazing.
It's really not.
No.
I mean, it's kind of cheesecake, you know, it's...
Oh, really?
It's a dark rom-com in terms of the themes are all kind of messed up.

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I mean, essentially Luke Wilson falls in love with the baby mama of his stepfather.
I mean, that's normal.
I mean, I guess if you're in Alabama or whatever the hell this place takes, you know, but...
Sure.
I will say Jake Busey is so deliciously menacing in this the whole time.

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Yeah.
He's got that weird Joker grin this entire, the entire time.
That's just his face, but yeah.
But I mean, like...
I got you.
It works too as a band.
I got you.
Yeah.
You know, if you got a mouth like that, you got to put it to work.
So, I don't know.
I feel like in a weird way I'm overselling this movie because it's not great.

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Sure.
It's very, very cheesecake, but it's there's just enough charm and wit and my kind of dark
humor in there to keep me really interested.
Okay.
That being said, it is your typical rom-com.
Okay.
All right.
The first act is will they won't they and then they hook up and then of course she finds

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out that he's harboring a secret and I don't know if I can trust you.
And so, I mean, it's...
But it's Drew Barrymore.
At the height of her popularity.
Yeah.
Yeah.
When she was the bubbly it girl of the 90s.
Sure.
And Luke Wilson being charming.
I was going to say shmarming.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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That's fair.
He's smarmy, but he's charming.
Yeah.
Okay.
That's cool.
I'll now that you've unsold it to me, I won't be watching that.
Catherine O'Hara is beautifully unhinged as only she can do.
She's a super cut of her.
She's amazing all the time.
So great.
Yeah.

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She's a...
I don't want to say she gets the underrated performance in that movie, but like, they
don't give her a lot to work with and she does a lot.
Yeah.
She doesn't need much.
She's so like theatrical and big all the time.
Well, I mean, she grew up in...what was it, Second City?

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I don't know.
I don't know shit about theater.
No, no, the improv group.
The same one that graduated like John Belushi and...
Yeah, Eugene Reddits and...I don't know if she's Canadian, but I know Eugene...
Oh, right.
She might be CCTV.
Yeah, I think she's CCTV.
Okay.
But same principle.
Out of that, you bring John Candy and Rick Moranis and Eugene Levy and...

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Yeah, the greats.
God, who was the...
Oh, anyway, it'll come to me.
Yeah, it's fine.
But yeah, like, she's very good at improv.
Like, she grew up in that and so all you got to do is just give her the thinnest of premise
and she can, yes, end it into something, you know, miraculous.
Insane.
Yeah.

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Yeah, she's amazing.
Well, what else have you been watching?
Do you want me to do one now?
Oh, wait, I got to rate it.
I'm going to rate...
Oh, okay.
Home fries, one burgermatic...
Hold the extra pickles.
Is that a joke from the movie?
It might be.

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Okay.
All right.
Is that good?
Hey, what does that mean to you, Matthew?
That's the scale we're working on here.
That's her.
That's the scale here at which I've been watching, you know.
I give it four lightsabers.
I don't know what that has to do with the movie, but it gets four lightsabers.
All right, that's cool.
Let's see, after that, I watched the latest iteration of the Alien franchise, Alien Romulus.

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Okay.
I love the Alien series, but they keep adding more and more to it.
Yeah.
And they get dumber and dumber.
And the more you talk about the alien, the less scary it is.
And from what I hear, that's one of the issues with Romulus?
I mean, yes and no.

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My main problem with the movie is, and I agree, I love the Alien franchise.
The first Alien to me is one of the top two horror movies of all time.
Yeah.
Like that movie to this day still terrifies me because it's essentially there's somebody
in the house.
It's a slasher in space.
But in space, right?
Right?
And then you add on the fact of like, oh, and this thing bleeds acid, and if it goes up

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against the wrong bulkhead, we all get sucked out in the vacuum of space or crash the ship.
So yeah, it's absolutely terrifying.
But the reason that that movie worked is because they gave the audience time to breathe and
sort of catch up.
You mean the original Alien?
Yes.
Yeah, yeah.

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They gave the audience, like there would be terrifying moments of alien screeching and
pulls you out of some random victim into the darkness and they're never seen again.
And then the rest of the crew has to spend the next five to eight minutes going like,
oh my god, that was terrifying.
What's the new plan?
How do you like, they build, they let the audience have a moment to like sit in the
death that just happened and see everybody's reaction and sort of have the tension build

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up like, okay, now which one is going to be next?
You know, of these characters that I love so much, which one is going to be pulled away
from you?
And there's none of that in this one.
It's just and then, and then, and then.
While also hitting the exact same plot points from the original.
It tries to, it tries to.
But again, I think it let, because it doesn't give the audience time to breathe, it doesn't

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give the, even the main characters a time to come up with a plan, you know, like in,
the original Alien, they have that whole conversation about like, quarantine, quarantine
it and then we'll just, just, just an off into space.
And everybody's going like, well, how do we do that?
How do, you know, then there's a discussion.
Well, this plan might not work, you know, and when they first encounter the Xenomorph,

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Dallas has the idea of like, well, I'm just going to take a flamethrower into the guts
of the ship and I'm going to like flush it out through the burn it alive in the drain
pipes.
We see how that works out for him.
And so then the crew has to, is forced to come to terms with like, well, that plan didn't
work.
And now we're a man down.
And also what do we do now?
You know, it's a second one where they have the, the thermal monitor and the vents right

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in their guts and the vents.
Uh, I think that's a second one.
Well, I know in the second one, they have the, the, uh, motion monitors.
Yeah, that motion sensors.
You're right.
Yes.
But that's also in the first one.
Yes.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I think in the third one, they actually put, uh, thermal cameras in the, I actually

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kind of like the third one.
That's a David Fincher movie.
It's shot.
Well, it looks great.
It's written by, uh, written by Joss Whedon.
Was it real?
What really?
Yeah.
I didn't know that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's why there's such a strong, pro-feminine like gay girl.
I mean, it's alien.
It always has been, you know, right?
But that one, it's, it's ramped up a lot.
Yeah.
I, third one's fun.
It's dumb and it breaks the rules of the alien franchise.

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Who cares?
Whatever.
Yeah.
But they get progressively dumber.
The more movies you put out, the dumber they get.
To a certain degree.
I mean, especially in this franchise, I would agree.
I don't know that that's a blanket statement over all movies.
Well, no, yeah.
Alien specifically.
Right.
I think Predator is kind of like that, except Prey was great.
I really liked Prey a lot.

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But again, I think that that movie worked because they scaled it back.
Like they took, they took all the like, step back, you know, like, let's just trim it
down to what it is.
It's, you know, one person alone.
Absolutely.
Nothing but their wits and like what they can find in the jungle versus arguably the
most prolific hunter in the galaxy.
Yeah.

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But yeah, I, going back to Alien, Ron, they really don't give any anybody a chance to catch
up.
It's just one thing happens after another.
Every plan that they come up with is immediately on the fly.
Like, well, let's just do this.
And everybody's like, yes, that's what we're going to do.
And works most of the time or doesn't.

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If it doesn't work, then there's a dumb reason why it doesn't work.
Like there's just dumb luck that like, oh, well, this thing failed.
Or like they end up finding an old bishop model from the original, you know.
And he wants, they, they, they need to get information from him.
So they have to re hook him up.
And so once he gets hooked up, he starts shutting down parts of the ship and really

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messing with their plans and stuff.
And so it's just this whole thing of like, okay, okay.
So now you've just added another unnecessary.
But he's full of milk.
He is full of milk.
Is he really?
Oh yeah.
He got damaged when the, when the alien broke out originally basically.
And so now he's just half of Android and he's got his wires and stuff hanging out.

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So yeah, it's, they, they, they go the, they go the distance on that.
I will say that they use the exact same actor, like, like they did with the Peter Cushing
in the new Star Wars, you know, the CGI or AI facial recognition and the uncanny valley
on it is so bad, like his lip sync doesn't match up.

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I've heard, I've seen it, but I've heard.
It looks like a second or third pass at the, at the technology and they should have gone
for a fourth and a fifth because it's just, it, it almost looks in a weird way.
Like you were talking about, you know, Cyberpunk 2077, right?
Like as photo realistic as that looks, and it looks really good.

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There's a video.
It looks like a video game.
Same thing with him.
It looks like, oh, that's very clearly done by a computer.
And why wouldn't you just like either a get a new actor and just say like, oh, it's the
same, it's from the same model.
Well, it's a robot too.
So just say it's, you know, a different, we're just from the same model line exactly.
And he just looks slightly different.

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Or just do, just make him just a head and then just do an animatronic head.
You know what I mean?
Just, just probably have cast of the original actors face.
Anyway, that's what I was going to say.
Yeah.
I want to do that.
So much work.
God forbid we put actual art.
I hate to say it because CGI is art.
Yeah, it is.

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It can be lazy when instead you could do it practically.
I guess I just prefer practical effects.
So they look better.
I tend to agree.
I mean, with a few exceptions, but I think that for the most part, practical effects
are the way to go.
I understand it's a little bit more expensive than, you know, just easier to hire a bunch

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of Korean animators and just tell them to do it.
But whatevs.
Okay.
So for instance, like you remember in the original and subsequent movies, like if somebody
got a face hug or put on them, they had the chest burst or that would come out, but that
would take like hours, like a day, like, like, yeah, whatever.

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Matthew, this happens real time.
Somebody gets infected and chest bursted.
Chest bursted chest.
Sure.
Bursted chested.
I think that's further away, but anyway, it's a it's a matter of minutes.
I real time rather than different scenes.
We're dealing with a face hugger.
Oh, no, it's acid blood.

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Oh, no, he feels fine.
We got we solved that problem at dinner.
He gets right chest bursted.
Right.
Right.
Right.
So it happens probably 10 to 10 to 12 minutes, you know, in this one.
And again, it just it falls into the problem of like, you know, the somebody should have

(26:55):
gotten the face hugger.
There's the whole issue of how do we get it off and whatever, whatever.
You pull him back into the ship.
Everybody's going, what happened?
There's the tension.
He, you know, they wake up fine.
Oh, I actually feel really good actually, you know, and the next thing you know, you
know, like hello, my honey.
What was that in?

(27:16):
Spaceballs?
Yeah, spaceballs.
Didn't they actually get John Hurt to refilm that?
I don't know.
I don't know that for a fact.
Was it I got to look that up.
I don't know.
I don't know.
That'd be hilarious though.
Welcome to the Wild Speculation podcast.
Let's say yeah, it's true.
It's true.
Yeah, we're starting a Hollywood rumor right now.
You and me.

(27:36):
Yeah.
I mean, I wouldn't put a brass metal brux to you.
Yeah.
Like why not?
Well, the question is, would John Hurt do that?
Yeah.
Okay.
But yeah, so again, it just, it falls in the whole category of like, you got to give all
the tense moments that you've built up time to breathe and time to time to atmosphere.

(27:59):
Exactly.
Exactly.
Like, and that's another thing about this atmosphere.
No physics works in this at any point.
Like there's a scene where they're going to a faulty part of the ship and the gravity
is going walking and it's turning off and on and off and on and off and on.
But it's sporadic.
So whatever.

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There's a scene where they literally shoot a bunch of aliens and there's, you know, acid
blood in zero gravity and they're just sort of like dodging it like bullets in the matrix.
And I'm like, that's not how that like, so you're telling me that not a single like microscopic
droplet lands on their skin or like, that's not like when you.

(28:41):
Does it cool seem to you though, is that you don't expect the sphere of acid to like,
splat across your helmet and it melts your visor away.
I assume that they're not even wearing helmets the inside the ship because they never do.
They take them off immediately.
Right.
Right.
Exactly.
Exactly.
But yeah, so it's.
That's a cool that would have been a cool scene though, instead of matrix dodging anti-gravity

(29:04):
bubbles.
Right.
Exactly that.
Exactly.
Yeah.
That's dumb.
So again, that was a great way to build tension and then also lead into, well, now we have
to rest and try and help this person who got burned by acid and do we leave him behind
and like, give the chance to again, like, let the tension build.
Like, if the equivalent of going to a concert and all they do is just play the high notes,

(29:28):
you know, like at some point you got to let the drums, you know, subside and let the,
you know, different, different elements of the orchestra to take over as opposed just
like, it's going to be trumpets 24 fucking seven.
Take you to a rave sometime, Michael.
That's why I don't go to raves.
I can't do enough drugs to enjoy that music.

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That's funny.
So anyway, like it's, it is what it is.
It's a fun, I wouldn't even say it's fun.
It's a good idea for a reboot and they do directly tie it into the original alien.

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You know, weird, like weird way, but it's there.
But it's ultimately it's just hollow and shallow and it nothing that happens within
the movie means anything because it's negated 20 minutes later by somebody by the same person
doing the exact opposite of what they were just preaching.

(30:37):
And again, it's just, it's just a CGI fest and it's just and then and then and then
and then there's no, there's no there, there.
Okay.
So I'll be skipping it.
It does have really good CGI effects.
They do have a really good scene where the xenomorph bursts out of its like vagina cocoon,

(31:01):
whatever that's pretty nice because they did that one practically.
And so they have the, you know, the KY jelly dripping off the teeth and the so wet.
Yeah, exactly.
Like, how do you look wet and dry at the same time?
That's gross.
Yeah, like the best scene in in Prometheus was when she has to give herself an abortion

(31:23):
in the medical laser.
We actually get ourselves a C section.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Just to cut it out of her zone.
That scene is so great.
So amazing.
I assume there's nothing like that in this.
There is a human xenomorph live birth.
Oh, okay.
It's pretty gnarly.

(31:44):
Okay.
So it's like Ace Ventura nature calls or he's birthed out the back of the rhino.
I mean, yes, something like that.
Just like that.
Yeah.
Okay, sure.
We'll go with that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Again, there's there's some really good gore effects, but it's ultimately wasted in the

(32:07):
pacing and the editing of the movie.
It falls into that horrible trap of I hate it when movies, especially in a horror movie,
you have to know where things are and like in what room are we now compared to where
is the killer on the ship?

(32:28):
Like there's no maybe it's just because it's such a huge like it's an abandoned space station
basically.
So maybe because it's just such a huge space that like I had a hard time keeping track
of like where they were on their hobbit this journey around this thing.
I got you.
You know, yeah, that is a big problem in horror movies like a slasher.
You have to know where they are compared to where the villain is so that when the kill

(32:53):
happens, it makes sense.
And it's not just like, I was off frame and I got you.
Right.
Exactly.
Exactly.
I should have looked to the left.
Oh my God.
That's that part.
That part.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, they didn't hear the hissing and snarling.
Yeah, nothing.
Yeah, I got you.
And it's okay for a surprise like popping out of the ceiling like because like in that

(33:16):
shot in the original, it's a huge wide shot and the place you can't see is above their
head, which is where it comes from.
Of course.
It does a little tail thingy.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Like stuff like that I agree with, you know, like if if the killer was hiding in the shadow
behind the cause of the whole time, that's fine, but you can't have the character literally

(33:36):
just walk into the space and be like, everything's fine here.
Right.
Yeah.
I got you.
Cool.
Well, what's your, how do you rate it?
I'm going to give it not a full face hug, but like maybe a nose cut out a butt out hug.

(33:57):
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's a butt out face.
Yeah.
Or a maybe a nose cuddle.
I don't know.
Okay.
I'm not fully enveloping you, but it's there.
I got you.
So yeah, man, that's what I've been watching.
Two very, very different movies, but I enjoyed them.
That's fine.
So listen, let's, let's take a break and we'll come back and I will ask you a very, very important

(34:22):
question.
Is it what you've been watching?
It might be.
It might be.
It might be state to.
That's what we call the cliffhanger of the business, Matthew.
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(35:55):
Or at the very least do like I do.
And hey, if he died for my sins, I'm going to make my sins awesome.
Yeah.
He's not dying for no bullshit on my account.
I'm going to make it worth it.
So my brother, I have an all important question for you.
What you been watching?
So on Christmas day, we went to a movie and we saw Nosferatu with Marcus was there.

(36:19):
Awesome.
Okay.
Yeah.
The Robert Eggers.
Robert Eggers.
Thank you.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Famously he did the witch, the lighthouse, Northman.
Yep.
I'm a big fan of his.
We were talking about atmosphere earlier and how lighting a movie breathe makes it terrifying.

(36:39):
He's so good at it.
Yeah.
He's so good at setting up the world and you get it and he doesn't have to explain
it to you.
For the most part.
There's no exposition.
Sure.
Right.
Like there is in a Chris Nolan movie.
Chris Nolan movie or yeah, yeah, where it's like, okay, now we got to break down the science
and here's why it works.

(36:59):
Like he just.
He lets the work speak for itself.
I got to say, I really, really do like his track record.
Yeah.
I think of his movies, the Northman probably is the weakest of the group.
But even that being said, the Northman is a phenomenally very well shot movie.
Immaculately shot.
Soundtrack's awesome.
The story, it's not much of one.

(37:21):
I mean, it's Hamlet.
It's Hamlet.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But like the way it actually happened.
Yeah.
Like as you know it, to the point where it's like, it felt like a duel of fates at the end
where they're fighting.
Yeah.
They're fighting over the over a volcano with like lava spilling out and it's, it's, it's

(37:43):
awesome.
But like in the end, you don't walk away from it.
Like thinking you don't learn anything from it.
You don't think about it later on.
It's just two, two meaty men going at it.
Big meaty men.
Yeah.
They're fighting each other.
With slugs of meat.
Yeah.
Exactly.
Two big old beef steaks just come out.

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He's such a great director because like the witch is an ultra feminine movie, right?
For sure.
The lighthouse is.
Well, and also a terrifying horror movie.
I mean, like every aspect of that movie is built again on tension and every scene, whenever
the horrible things start happening, it builds and builds and builds and goes into an even

(38:25):
bigger stratosphere of like, oh, this is way more terrifying than the thing that just
happened 10 minutes ago.
Yeah.
And it's a slow burn and it's great.
And he, he knows pacing.
We saw the witch in theaters and there's like 12 old people falling asleep in the movie
and it was amazing.
It was so great.
And it was like what I imagined the exorcist was like it when it came out.

(38:48):
She's like dead quiet in there.
Right.
And that way dialogue, he writes dialogue, it draws you in.
What are they talking about right now?
Right, right, right, right.
Especially in the lighthouse, I think that's.
Yeah.
That's mesmerizing.
That.
Yeah.
It not only drives you in.
It's like a.

(39:08):
Well, it's almost like the two characters have their own lingo.
They have their own, their own way of speaking.
And at first it's very foreign and sort of and weird.
Yeah.
And when the movie goes, like you start to understand like more and more and more of
the dialogue or the lexicon that they're using.
So in, in the style of Robert Eggers, he made Nosferatu.

(39:32):
I actually kind of found it funny.
Okay.
Because his style.
You guys don't understand how much of a Matthew Dudley statement that is.
Like it was terrifying, but also I laughed.
Yeah.
It's funny because I've seen Bramster here.
Dracula so many times.
Francis Ford Coppola.
Yeah.

(39:52):
Francis Ford Coppola.
Bramster, Dracula 1991 or two, something like that.
Sure.
It's hilarious because like Keanu sucks in it.
Why no sucks in it?
Last for me.
No, they're terrible.
Are you telling you didn't believe their accents for a single second, Matthew?
I have seen blue flames is like, get out of here, Keanu.

(40:12):
Shall I call my husband?
Other parts of it are great.
The way it shot soundtrack, Gary Oldman's amazing.
So this movie, you don't have that problem where individual actors take you out of it.
Right.
Everyone is living in the world.
What do you mean?
Oh, oh, oh.
In Nosferatu.
Okay.
In the way that it did with Bram Stoker's in terms of Keanu and Wynona take you out

(40:35):
of it.
Yeah.
And in Nosferatu, everyone's on point.
They know what's going on.
Because what I've heard is Eggers is a actor's director.
He knows, he tells you how you're supposed to react to stuff and rather than you're guessing
what he wants.
Sure.
He's dialed in and from what I've heard, he's just for an actor.

(40:58):
He's really great to work with.
In terms of like, this is what I want from you in the scene.
Yeah.
This is how you're supposed to react and what you're feeling and blah, blah, blah.
And every actor is going to put their spin on it because Willem Dafoe is insane in that
movie too.
Oh, for sure.
I mean, he's insane in everything he does.
He's great always.

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Really good movie.
I keep seeing, I have been trolling comment sections for this movie where on like Instagram
and Facebook, I'll immediately go to the comments and be like, this movie is boring AF.
Or you see the dumbest comments and like when you're on like actual aggregate review sites,

(41:40):
people like it and I don't understand where the hate in the comment section is coming
from other than it's, I don't know, bots, not real people that actually saw it.
That's my guess.
Okay.
I don't know.
I mean, insane.
People also do have a habit of jumping on the bandwagon and saying the thing, saying
the thing even before they've even, you know, like, well, I saw the trailer and it looked

(42:01):
boring and Willem Dafoe is a hack and why is this guy like, dude, you saw a trailer.
Yeah.
It's great and like, I love Dracula movies.
They're terrifying and also hilarious.
And what I found funny about this was the Egger style versus the theatricality of a Dracula

(42:22):
story and just the contrast between how theatrical Dracula is like it's a theater performance.
Everyone's big Dracula is missing and like a big character like the classic Bella Legosi
like the gravitas.
The gravitas versus how dry Eggers is.

(42:42):
It made me laugh a bunch of times.
Okay.
Okay.
And I'm trying really hard to not in the middle of the theater laugh my ass off at something
that's not funny, but it was to me.
Was it just conflict of style or?
Kind of.
It works for the movie, but for me, it also made me laugh.

(43:02):
It's in like a medicine's internal like, I know how this scene would be shot or like
should be shot and he's doing something that is very Eggers that is totally contradictory
to I guess the expectation or the way it would be traditionally done.
Yes.
Exactly.
You got it.
Okay.
I found it very funny.

(43:23):
Okay.
Willem Dafoe is always hilarious to you.
There's a scene where he offers the doctor some schnapps, like, oh, some schnapps and
Ralph Innocent sits down and does a line of snuff off the back of his thumb.
He's like, no schnapps for me.
And I found it really funny.

(43:45):
Just stuff like that.
Also Willem Dafoe said that the rats were the best actor he's ever worked with.
The rats?
Yeah.
Thousands of rats in this movie.
Okay.
Thousands.
And other actors complained about the smell of the rats and Willem Dafoe was, he said
they were the best actor he's ever worked with.
So that shows you where Willem Dafoe is at.

(44:12):
These rats were the best I've ever worked with.
Yeah.
He was so great.
He loved it.
And like, you know, working with animals is hard and it drives up the cost of making
a movie.
Sure.
Yeah.
And they were probably, probably multiple, a whole team of rat wranglers.
Right.
You know, you got to put them in the shot in the right way and kind of like train them

(44:32):
to do a certain thing that you want them to do.
It's not hard.
It's not easy working with animals.
It's not.
I've seen Roar.
I've seen Roar.
Which, by the way, that's a great pull.
That's if you haven't never seen the most dangerous movie ever made because it was shot
on a line preserve and multiple people.

(44:53):
Was that Tippi Hedren?
Yes.
Tippi Hedren and whoever their daughter is.
Cathy Griffin.
I don't know.
Not Cathy Griffith.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I don't remember.
Melanie Griffith.
Melanie Griffith.
Yes.
Thank you.
Yes.
Yes.
Yeah.
Anyway, people got mauled on this movie.

(45:13):
The reason why now we have the ASPCA was present to watch all animal handling is because
of that movie.
Yes.
Because there were so many people who got hurt and actually mauled by like.
The most dangerous movie ever made and is terrifying.
It will make you shit a brick because it is like every second these actors are in danger
for the entire movie.

(45:34):
Imagine it's like Jurassic Park, but with real dinosaurs.
Yeah.
Well, they're lions and they're untrained because you don't really train a lion that
well.
Or at all.
Or at all for that matter in this movie.
Anywho, tangent over.
Robert Eggers.
Yeah, I love them.
Make more stuff.
Don't give them too much money though.

(45:57):
I agree.
I agree.
He doesn't know what to do with it and he has said that.
Well, but he's a very minimalist director.
Yes.
I mean like he is a master at putting the most effects on screen like in the most efficient
way.
Yes.
He's been doing so much of the story he's trying to tell even his dialogue.

(46:21):
I think he's he's very parse and although it may be very flowery, it's very to the point.
Yeah, you don't have to read into it that hard.
It's not like every line is poetry or anything like that, but it does have deeper meanings
and you do have to read behind but between the lines a little bit to get to get to the

(46:42):
obvious I just mean in terms of like, you know, in the witch, they speak that very old
English.
Yeah.
The lighthouse they speak old sailor.
Yeah.
That northeastern kind of like.
Balking Yod and you know, yeah, that stuff, you know, dropping the hard hours and stuff
like that.

(47:02):
Yeah.
I go see Nostratia if you haven't seen it.
What are you going to rate it?
What do you give it?
Oh, man.
I'm going to rate it thousands of rats.
Thousands of rats, he says.
Yes.
Okay.
Sounds like a ringing endorsement to me.

(47:22):
So to go off that to the next movie I watched Glenn, we watched and he recommended it hundreds
of beavers.
Okay.
I think I saw that one on Pornhub, but.
Yeah, it does sound like that doesn't.
That came out last year and it's a, this sounds really pretentious, but it's not.
It's a black and white silent movie about a Canadian, not Canadian, Wisconsin trapper

(47:51):
who is trying to trap hundreds of beavers to win as a dowry for the general storekeeper's
daughter.
And it is just looney tunes.
I think that's an apt description actually.
I watch that.
It is like a live action looney tunes cartoon.
It's basically this, it's the lone protagonist who is dressed in, you know, the old timey

(48:17):
wilderness, you know, trap, you know, fur trapper kind of thing.
He's got the beaver hat, but it's this huge, like almost like Lego looking kind of cartoon
style, like very over emphasized.
He's got a mascot beaver hat on while he is murdering beavers that are mascot costumes.
Right.
Of beavers.

(48:37):
Right.
Right.
And he makes looney's tunes style, Wiley Coyote traps to kill the beavers and he learned
stuff about beaver culture along the way.
Like they were building an atomic bomb out of.
They were building a rocket ship fueled by apple cider.
That's right.
That's right.
Full by high grain apple cider.

(48:57):
Yeah.
Mocking human civilization or something.
I don't know.
Kind of a, kind of a plan of the age situation.
It's so stupid.
Also one of my favorite movies from last year.
I can say I really do like that one, but I really love silly, like ridiculous movies
like that.
And that was so different than anything I had seen.

(49:18):
I never seen a live action movie like that.
I mean, maybe like you could go back to like Jim Carrey, the mask or something like that.
But even that was a cartoon living in the real world, whereas this just is a cartoon
world with live action, with done in live action.
Yeah.
It's so stupid.

(49:38):
If you can find it, go watch it.
It's so dumb.
You'll be, you're going to lose brain cells watching it.
But it's also, it's also highly entertaining.
I mean, they do this thing.
It's all very clearly CGI.
Like there's the, the sketch where he's descending through the, the beaver dam and he's on that
never ending ladder.
And it's very clearly just him going, you know, mimicking, you know, going down a ladder

(50:02):
and then they just CGI impose a giant ladder down.
Yeah.
Or when he's on the log system through the canal and he's like fighting beavers and
he has to like jump over them because it turns two dimensional.
Oh yeah.
He's going, he's going for order.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Very funny.
Go watch that movie.
Yeah.
Yeah.

(50:22):
Highly recommend.
Yeah.
That's it.
I was going to say that one was one of the more entertaining and quite frankly, it's
only, I want to say like 80 minutes, 82 minutes.
No, it was way longer than that.
It was like, it was over two hours.
Yeah.
Was it really?
Yeah.
God, that flew by.
Yeah.
That flies by.

(50:42):
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Wow.
That's some, I, I would have sworn that movie was barely an hour and a half.
Yeah.
It feels like it, it, it flies and it's hilarious.
If you like Looney Tunes and absurdness and chaos, it's a great example of that.
Yeah.
So, all right.
What do you rate it?

(51:03):
What do I rate it?
I'm going to rate it hundreds of beavers.
There you go.
That's the only acceptable answer, sir.
So my brother, what else have you been watching?
So this list is stuff that I saw that came out last year that I also saw in the year.
So it's all recent stuff.
Like this is all movies that came out in 2024.

(51:25):
2024, correct.
Gotcha.
Right.
So I saw Monkey Man.
I still have not seen this.
How do you know it?
Yeah.
I'm disappointed in myself, sir.
I love Doug Patel.
I think it's his directorial debut.
I want to say, I'm pretty sure on that.
It's Brown John Wick.

(51:47):
You have no idea how bad I want to do a voice right now.
My restraint is amazing.
Yeah.
Thank you.
I appreciate it.
It's a really good movie.
Soundtrack's awesome.
I saw it back in February or March or something like that.
So I'm having a bit of trouble remembering it.
That's fine.

(52:09):
It's a revenge movie.
He trains up as like a fighter and then to go beat the mob boss at the end and it's fighting
and it does like a flashback sequence or to tell you why he's here in the first place.
And then there's like a revolution going on also.
And he wears the mask of the revolution, which is a monkey mask.
OK.

(52:30):
And then he kicks ass.
That's the whole fucking movie.
Now I've heard that like you said he was like John Wick.
Now is he completely proficient in?
No, he gets his ass handed to him multiple times, but he also kicks ass and he solves
through.
There you go.
I'll say one of the things I struggle with in action movies.

(52:54):
John Wick does this a little bit.
This movie did a lot more when you have too many edits in a punch.
Yes.
Yeah.
And he did his best.
It's hard to sequence that stuff.
You have to do a lot of takes.
Right.
Jackie Chan does hundreds of takes for every sequence.
Right.
Hundreds.
You don't have time for that.

(53:16):
Especially in today's modern.
So a lot of that editing kind of shows through.
It's not terrible.
It's not taken.
Oh, well, you want edits to get over a fence.
Or whatever.
Right.
Or they show the same punch from three different angles and none of them look like they're
hitting.
Like they're hitting.
Yeah.
This doesn't really have that problem, but it'll be punch.

(53:36):
You see the connect.
Edit.
Guy flies back.
Edit.
Got you.
Got you.
Okay.
And you can tell every single time punch, edit, guy flies back, hits the ground, edit,
response or reaction.
Got you.
Got you.
Every time.
It's kind of choppy.
Is this smooth as it could be for the way it's shot without doing hundreds of takes

(54:00):
like a Jackie Chan review?
It should have done that.
It should have.
It didn't.
I get why they didn't do it, but it would have been for the better if they did take
the time to do that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Marks and I have kind of talked a little bit of it in terms of like filming an action
sequence is almost like filming a dance sequence.
Yes.

(54:21):
You know, like you have to be very aware of where they are on the dance floor and how
their interaction or how their movement is being received, not only by the audience,
but like within the space itself.
Right.
And that's the other part that you were talking about for Romulus is like, where is everyone
in space?
And in action movies, it's more important than ever.
Right.

(54:41):
Right.
You know, like, where is this guy coming from?
You know, because if you zoom out, right?
And it's just a bunch of extras standing around waiting to take their turn punching at them.
It sucks.
It's so boring.
So there's a pacing to it, but also where is this random dude at in the room entering
this fight at this time?
Is a big part of the rhythm to an action movie?

(55:03):
Well, if he's standing by the window when he's fighting one guy and then he turns around
and he's standing by the doorway fighting another guy, you're like, oh, so does he teleport?
Is the room just that small?
Like, how does this work?
And just also additional combatants.
Where is this additional combatant coming from in the first place?
And why was he not involved in it from the beginning?

(55:25):
Right.
Right.
I don't know if you've ever seen like a real street fight, but they very rarely go like
take their turn, take their turn and wait to throw a punch.
Usually it's like swarms, stomp, stomp, stomp, stomp.
So he gets, he gets swarmed a bunch and he gets his ass kicked and really good with you.
You should watch it.
I have every intention to do.
I promise I will give a full report back to you personally when I, when I do that.

(55:47):
Like it's just it's unfortunate it's been added to the list of the growth, the never
ending growing list of movies.
Like, I'll get to it.
Yeah, sure.
You'll enjoy it.
I haven't seen Green Knight.
So that's a harder watch.
It's harder.
It's slower.
Monkey Man, you're going to fly through it.
Okay.
You're not.

(56:07):
You can put it on in the background like what's happening now?
Like, you know, a John Wick movie.
It's not going to capture you like a John Wick movie, though.
You're not going to be like, this movie is fucking amazing and I can't turn away.
I can't go make a sandwich and come back.
You'll be fine.
Okay.
Not missing a whole lot.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, more punching happens and then flashbacks and like, why is this flashback happening?
Oh, we're telling about why he's the Monkey Man now.

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Okay.
You'll be fine.
Take it easy.
It's not a hard watch.
Okay.
Okay.
So it's like irreversible meets John Wick.
I don't know what that means, but I sure.
Sure.
I'm going to stick with Brown John Wick.
Okay.
What do you rate it?

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Oh, the five point exploiting palm technique.
Oh, all five points?
Four of the five.
Four out of five.
Okay.
All right.
I don't know what that means either.
All right.
What has been watching, brother?
Hit me.
Hit me with it.
Let me see.
I watched, I saw the TV glow.
Okay.

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Have you seen that?
I have not.
That's a...
No.
I mean, yeah, kind of.
It's hard to explain.
It sets up like he, this guy, and this older girl are obsessed with this TV show that is
basically, I don't know, like Supernatural or like Sailor Moon or something.

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And it's like a magical girl show that they're obsessed with, that they solve crimes.
I would say that's two totally different genres of TV shows.
Not really.
Sailor Moon and Supernatural?
Not really.
They're kind of the same.
Or Buffy or something like that.
Okay.
Buffy and Supernatural I could go with.
Okay.
So they're obsessed with this show and then they grow up and they grow apart and at some

(57:54):
point she realizes that she is gay and she has to leave the small town that they're in.
The main protagonist girl?
Not main protagonist.
The main protagonist is a guy, it's actually the guy from Dungeons and Dragons on or among
these who plays, oh man, I forget his name.

(58:16):
Whatever, he's in it.
So some guy from that movie one time.
Yeah, I don't remember his name off the top of my head.
Chris Pine?
No, no, no, no.
He plays the wizard, the sorcerer in the movie.
So he is supposed to be having a gay, a queer awakening and never realizes that that's what's

(58:39):
going on with him and it's kind of like his voice is cut down all the time and he never
realizes who he actually is.
Okay.
So it's like a queer coming out story that is also horror movie.
Okay.
And it's kind of like the lived experience of like a queer person, how terrifying it

(59:01):
is living in that existence and not knowing who you are because you're living two lives
without knowing it.
So where does the horror at like, is there a super natural?
I don't know how to explain that.
It just is terrifying.
Just the way it's played out like because he's totally unaware of it and confused by

(59:21):
everything.
So it has this like surrealist nature to it where he's crossing realities between the
show he is obsessed with with his real reality and also people keep coming into his life
and you don't know if they're imaginary or real or not.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
So it's so hard to explain.

(59:43):
It's such a weird movie and it doesn't tell you anything.
So it's a it's a hard to explain movie that's difficult to understand and it doesn't answer
any questions.
Yeah.
So what's the appeal here, man?
I gotta ask you.
No, it's just it's surrealist and kind of about queer awakening and coming out and

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he never gets to that point where he understands who he is, she is and never makes the step
beyond what his reality.
He's been told he is from the beginning of his life.
So he's he's supposed to be a woman, right?

(01:00:26):
Okay.
So what he does when he realizes it is gas lights himself and his gas light by his situation
and never awakens into it.
So yeah, that's the best I can do to explain it.
He's reacting to this lost look on my face.
Yeah, I really am.

(01:00:47):
I mean, it sounds, I hate to say interesting, but at least unique.
I don't know if it's a hook that I'm willing to get into, but I don't know if it I'll give
it 20 minutes and if it doesn't hook me by then it's not it's not going to get you in
20 minutes.
Oh, good.
Yeah.

(01:01:08):
I hate to be like that.
It's a good movie.
You should see it if you are interested in that.
I didn't know what it was when I saw it.
I just watched it and then kind of figured it out after the fact.
But it's like you do have a really fondness for sort of going into movies.
Totally blank.
Like you don't want to read the back of the box.
You don't want to like.
Watch a trailer.

(01:01:29):
Yeah, I don't care.
Yeah, I don't care.
They give away so much in trailers anyway.
Well, especially modern day trailers.
Sometimes though, I won't watch a movie until I have it spoiled.
If you if you if I didn't know what the spoiler for sorry to bother you was.
Okay, I wouldn't have watched it.
But that's a unique hook though.
It is so out there and we're like, oh, he works at a telecommunication place and he

(01:01:52):
has to like call people and put on his white voice like, OK, and well, then they turn them
into a horse.
What lead with that?
That's the elevator pitch.
I saw the TV glow.
I don't know how to describe it because it is like a trans coming out movie, but he never

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realizes that that's the person he actually is.
And he's projecting what he he's obsessed with this TV show and he's getting the TV
show and his reality confused.
And then he grows up and when he watches the movie at the end of the or the TV show at
the end of the movie, it's not what he remembers.

(01:02:34):
Oh, OK.
And it's really lame and dumb.
When he watched it as a kid, he remembers it as.
This special magical thing.
Right, right, right, right, right.
So I don't know.
Watch it or don't.
I don't know.
I enjoyed it.
It's it's captivating.
It draws you in and you just have to sit there and take the ride.

(01:02:58):
OK, see, that's the hook right there, sir.
That's the hook.
It's such a hard movie.
I can't spoil it because not really much happens in it.
It's kind of a premise only movie.
OK.
I like stuff like that, though.
Like human centipede.
No, not like that.

(01:03:21):
I I'm what would I give this?
Yeah, go ahead and rate it.
Um, 3.5 colors of the rainbow.
Three and a half.
Yeah. How many colors of the rainbow are there?
Well, if you want to get in technical, it's six, but everyone says seven.

(01:03:43):
No, I want to get in technical, Matthew.
Ah, rainbow joke, Technicolor.
It's six.
Indigo is not real.
Yeah, it's a controversial statement.
It's not. They just like the number seven when they made the rainbow.
Hot news flash, Indigo isn't real.

(01:04:04):
Neither are birds.
Quotas Matthew Dudley.
What else?
Why don't you been watching by the hit me?
Immaculate.
OK.
Sydney Sweeney.
I have not seen that one.
No. Mm hmm.
I should be told I I actually have not seen anything.

(01:04:26):
Sydney Sweeney has done.
I haven't seen Madame Web.
I haven't watched Euphoria.
I just know that this girl was somehow foisted upon me as the new it girl.
I'm all for it.
She's very attractive.
But I don't know anything about her other than quite frankly, her nude scenes.
So I don't even know about that.
I saw this movie.
I she's in stuff and she does things.

(01:04:46):
I couldn't name them.
I couldn't name them.
She's famous and everyone knows who she is.
And they're like, Sydney Sweeney's in this movie.
I was like, who is also co produced by her.
So I assume Nepo, baby.
I don't actually know.
She's actually really good in it.
OK, really good in it.
I do know the premise.
I do not. I do not.

(01:05:06):
So she is a young woman in
that is a nun and is shipped off to Italy to join a special convent.
OK, where they are basically a hospital and helping people.
Spoiler is not what you think it is.
Oh, really?
It's a forced pregnancy and they.

(01:05:28):
Oh, really? Yeah.
Like Handmaid's Tale or something.
They're trying to.
Can I spoiler this?
Just spoil it. Yeah. Just just spoil it.
Yeah, just go ahead.
So they there's a huge buy in in this movie
and you either buy in or you don't.
Oh, it's one of those twists.
Yeah. So the twist is basically that the priest that she trusts drugs her

(01:05:51):
and then impregnates her with the DNA of Christ that he scraped off the nail
that he was crucified with. OK.
So dumb because DNA breaks down so fast.
And also Jesus wasn't real, but I was going to say.
But what about Jesus blood, Matthew?
That's magical.
Miss. So she's supposed to birth the second coming.

(01:06:13):
The second coming. Yeah. OK. OK. OK.
Yeah. That's the whole premise.
And it is basically like a forced birth movie
where she stuck in a convent that is run by dudes,
even though it's mostly women, like all the higher ups are men
that are making decisions about women's bodies and stuff like that.

(01:06:34):
Welcome to America 2025. I know.
But I. And so this is a train that I noticed a lot of during 2024.
So I basically the same movie, again, is called First Omen.
And it's a prequel to the Omen.
Oh, like Damien, the Omen.
Like where he came from. Yeah.
And it's the same plot as Immaculate. OK.

(01:06:56):
And this also came out last year, right?
It's different and it's grittier and grimeer.
Sort of a what was it?
It was a deep impact and Armageddon situation.
Where it's like we have two asteroid movies.
They're different. They're both really good movies.
And they have the same kind of plot line
with a different approach to them. OK.
Because Immaculate, I'd say is the classy version of this.

(01:07:20):
OK. OK. First Omen is the gritty
70s gross out movie of it, whereas really disgusting stuff.
So which one was your favorite?
I liked them both. I'm going to go with First Omen.
Of course. Yeah. I like it gross.
I like it gross. And whoever the chick is, First Omen, really great, too.
Both really good movies.

(01:07:41):
I'm going to give them both.
Oh, man.
Careful now.
I see the wheels turning.
Yeah, what do I do here?
I find myself into a corner.
If only there was a way you could abort out of this.

(01:08:02):
Oh, no. Oh, he did the joke.
Oh, no. He did the thing.
I like them both.
I'm going to give them a
Austin 316.
With the breaking glass and everything.
Yeah. Yeah. And checking a beer also.

(01:08:25):
I don't know why.
I don't know what it has to do with the movie,
but I like your rating system. Yeah, I like it.
We're here for it.
All right, brother, I guess the only other question I got for you is,
what else have you been watching?
Give me one more.
Let's give let's give one more solid one to the people.
Late night with the devil.
Oh, the Dave Dismulsion.
He had polka dot man.

(01:08:45):
Yeah, he he wrote, directed, produced.
I don't think he wrote and directed it.
He probably co-produced it, though. OK.
He's great in it.
I mean, he's great in everything. Yeah, he's.
Yeah, that's true.
Have you seen this? I have not. OK.
Once again, my movie watching has been relegated to like children's
movies aged five to 12.

(01:09:05):
So that's fair.
Dunstan checks in.
Dunstan checks in.
Coming soon.
Spoilers.
I will watch it and I will get back to you on that.
Oh, we're going to do a deep dive on this.
It's going to happen.
We're going into turtle style on this.
We're going all in.
So late night with the devil.
Are you familiar with the premise, you know anything about it?

(01:09:27):
I believe it's about a TV show.
TV host who experiences like paranormal.
It's almost like poltergeist, but with on live TV.
Yeah, yeah, with like David Letterman or something.
Yeah, so he brings in a girl.
He brings in a host of characters.
One of them is like like a magician kind of con man kind of guy.

(01:09:51):
And he's kind of a debunker.
And so like a like a amazing, not amazing, amazing.
Yeah, that kind of guy.
This guy's more bombastic and full of himself
than in denial when stuff is legitimately in front of him.
OK, so the next guess, there's a few of them.

(01:10:12):
I can't remember the other one.
The next guess is a little girl that's possessed by a demon
and has been working with like a like a warren's kind of family thing.
A warren's kind of family.
Yeah, like a psychologist.
A spiritual psychologist that is like doing like extra systems.

(01:10:32):
Oh, yes, I know what you mean.
Yeah, right.
Ed and Lorraine Warren, right.
So they bring a little girl on and they're like,
oh, can I talk to the demon and blah, blah, blah.
And then shit happens. OK.
Insanity. They unleash the devil watching a possession on live TV.

(01:10:53):
Come back after the commercials, right?
Here's from our sponsor, Corn Flakes.
Right. And so it goes it goes tits up.
Of course, as as most demon possessions do.
So then we we learned that Polkadot man.
Dave Dismulsion, right?
His wife died suddenly of cancer or something.

(01:11:15):
And he had been kind of like a Conan O'Brien type
where he had been trying to sell his late night TV show
and they get into the big leagues and it never happens.
OK, and then suddenly his wife dies and he becomes huge.
As like because of the news, like the news frenzy off of like.
Yeah, that's what you're led to believe when you find this out.

(01:11:37):
But what it actually happens is that he's in a weird cult
that sacrifices life, maybe kind of. Oh.
And he blows up because of his wife dies.
A pact with Beelzebub, as it were.
Yeah, something like that. And so he's in like a weird secret
Hollywood cabal that sacrificed his wife,
even though it looked like cancer or something.

(01:12:00):
And then he blows up and gets so big.
And then one of his last hurrahs is having this
possession on live TV.
And then it goes tits up and he's canceled after that and never comes back.
OK. Yeah, it gets weird and surrealist also.
Oh, is it is it like gory?

(01:12:21):
Is it no, it's shot like
like it's a 70s live TV show, like the cameras.
If they're not like a cabin or something like that.
Yeah, everything's like the contrast is really high.
The saturation is really high. Got you.
Got you.
He's wearing like the pearl blue suit and the dudes wear the, you know, yeah.
Yeah, it's kind of grimy looking.

(01:12:42):
But it's obviously like it was shot on like 4K and then they digitize it
to look that way. So it doesn't really look like a 70s TV show.
But it looks like a facsimile or something.
But it's close enough and it's enough to buy in. OK.
I mean, I do love David Dismolish and he's he's great.
And he he's the star of the show. OK.

(01:13:03):
He's great. OK. Cool. Cool.
I mean, it on the scale of horror, how does it how does it raise?
It's somewhere between, you know, like scream and the thing or, you know,
like what's what what would be the closest approximation of like that type of horror movie?
Well, I that's hard
because I haven't seen something like it before and it still does the troops

(01:13:27):
because it has like exorcism stuff on it.
You're used to seeing stuff like that.
It's kind of funny. OK.
Because it's a TV show.
So it's just like keep the cameras rolling, you know, right, right.
No matter what, no matter what. Yeah, exactly.
And the character, the cast of characters that comes on like the
the amazing Randy, dude, he's very full of himself and pompous

(01:13:50):
and doesn't believe anything.
And like this girl is levitating.
Is like, oh, it's obviously, you know, a pulley system pulling her into the air.
And he's such a cynic the entire which.
And then, of course, he she bites his face off or something like that.
Yeah, someone gets the lights go out and someone goes gets murdered.
You know, that sort of. Oh, right, right, right.
It's like, ah, and then the crowd panics and they scream and leave.

(01:14:13):
And then a camera falls over and yeah, it just like keeps ramping up
right at the end of the movie. OK, OK.
Polkadot man is great in it.
I already don't remember his name.
I just love that no matter what he does, you're going to be like,
yeah, it starts polka dot man.

(01:14:33):
Exactly. You're talking about.
I'll remember him as that forever.
So he's great.
He started the show.
I really recommend it. Yeah, you should watch it.
So is he getting the underrated performance of the week?
Underrated.
Or is or is he properly rated?
He's not rated enough, to be honest, whether it's under or over.

(01:14:57):
Not enough people are talking about him in this movie.
That sounds like an underrated performance.
Is he under underrated? I'd say Bill Skarsgard as a count allot for a lot.
Really? Yeah. From Nosferatu.
Yeah, yeah. Bill Skarsgard.
So good. I kind of feel like he's properly rated.
I don't know. Yeah, in general.

(01:15:17):
But if you don't know, it's him.
You wouldn't know it's him.
Ah, OK. He's so good in it that you don't even know that it is it.
OK, right. The monster.
He's so good in it. You have no idea.
And his mustache clutch.
The mustache's clutch.
Yeah.
Underrated performance of the week. Bill Skarsgard.

(01:15:39):
Polka Dot Man second.
OK, we'll take it. We'll take it.
Well, brother, I mean, thank you for hanging out.
Thank you for filling in.
We really do appreciate it.
Hopefully we'll get to bring in a lot more and hear your wild and wacky.
Yeah, obviously wrong opinions.
Yeah, obviously wildly wrong opinions.
Absolutely.

(01:16:00):
Lenny Prep next time, and we'll talk about stuff that I want.
Oh, no, no. Here's the here's the mission.
You and I, we're going to do a deep dive on Dunstan checks in.
We're going to watch this movie.
We're going to do a bunch of research frame by frame.
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
Breakdown of the plot.
The implications, the metaphors, allegory.
What the existential of existentialism.
Why does Dunstan check in?

(01:16:22):
Right. Who is Dunstan to check in in the first place?
Who is Dunstan?
Can he just check in anywhere?
Yeah, next time.
Next time, brother.
In the meantime, and in between time, marvelous Mike D signing off on behalf of MK Dudley.
Thank you all for joining us on this special episode.
I would recommend that you go watch a movie.

(01:16:45):
Yeah, watch a movie, watch Dunstan checks in.
And talk about it with somebody that you love.
.