#21 - Raised Mormon, Tripping at Burning Man, and Everything Will Be OK

This anonymous caller doesn’t claim to know what happens when we die and he’s completely at peace with that.

In this episode, we talk about what it means to live without answers but still find meaning. From a childhood shaped by death anxiety to a life enriched by spiritual study, psychedelics, and profound loss, he shares how grief transformed his relationship with death. And how, despite not having a clear belief about what comes next, one message remains constant: Everything Will Be O.K.

We also talk about growing up Mormon, the importance of animals, and the moment a mysterious song blaring from a stereo felt like a message from the other side. Whether you believe in the stars, the soul, or nothing at all, this conversation is a reminder that peace can still exist in uncertainty.

Mentioned in this episode:

• Favorite Book: A Heartbreaking Work of Staggering Genius
• Growing up with fear of death and learning to let it go
• Losing a beloved cat, dog, and parent
• Burning Man, acid trips, and a connected universe
• A mysterious stereo moment that felt like a message from his mom
• What it means to love an animal who’s known lack

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