July 3, 2025 • 50 mins
Franchise Friday is BACK, you filthy little scream queens! And guess what? We’ve got a brand new cohost, and they’re hot, hilarious, and definitely not afraid to get messy on mic.
Meet Richard Pham—Brooklyn’s favorite plant daddy and this season's co-host of chaos. In this kickoff ep, Crybaby makes him spill the tea on his horror origin story, his plant-doctoring prowess, and his deeply cursed talent for burping into microphones.
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It's like this is like a deeptherapy session.
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Yeah.
Thank you.
Of course.
I'm also, I'm excited to hearwhat you think.
My goal is to activate at leasttwo of your brain cells by the
time we are done with this.
That's a lot.
That's, I might explode.
I think we can make that happen.
I think we can make that happen.
Speaker (00:15):
What is your book of Well, hanging out with your
Smartest and Funniest Friend.
You know me, I'll kill
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anybody, but.
Hey Cuties, and welcome back toHorror Icon, your queer
playground for all things scary,sexy, and stupid.
Y'all know me, I'm crybaby thespooky slut from your wettest
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nightmare.
And today we are joined by abrand new face here for our
franchise Fridays.
Everybody say hello toBrooklyn's favorite plant Daddy,
Richard Pham plant Daddy MD,right?
Yes, yes.
Plant Daddy MD.
Hello everyone.
Yes, rich.
I'm so fucking excited to haveyou here.
I'm really excited to be here.
Alright, so everybody, we'vebeen talking about this for
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almost a month now, right?
Yep.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
And just the minute I was justlike, Hey, Richard, are you a
horror girly?
Uh, yeah, I am.
It's just been flooding my phonewith ideas and just like, oh,
the day I asked you, you watchedthe first two movies of the
franchise we're covering?
I did, yeah.
Yes.
Yeah, I just, I, wheneversummertime hits mm-hmm.
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I always like revisiting some ofmy favorite teen horror movies.
So one of them, of course isShould I reveal it?
Yeah, go for it.
Pop it out there.
I know what you did last summer.
Oh, I bet you do.
Yes.
I'm so excited for this.
And can, I mean, there's, ifyou're only listening to this,
if you're not watching, there'sa huge visual cue.
I'm sitting here wearing myHelen Shivers best.
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As close as I could get a littlehairy chested, but we're good.
I, I mean, the tits are great,so thank you.
Thank you.
She's very ample.
I grew them myself.
Well, welcome.
I'm so excited to have you.
I'm so excited that the horroricon audience gets to, uh, get
to know you.
They get to meet you and spendsome time with you because
Richard's a fun time, everybody.
Oh, thank you.
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Yes.
No, absolutely.
I mean, it started well, yeah.
When did we meet?
We met when you worked at theplant shop.
Yes.
Yes.
The one right around the corner.
Yeah.
Uh, I had just quit my job atSephora, everybody, and I walked
into this plant shop and I wasjust like, yeah, I just quit my
job.
And you leaned over the desk andyou're just like, isn't quitting
a job fucking great?
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You're like, good for you.
I fucking love quitting a job.
And I was just, it's a lot offun.
It's like a final, like, youknow what?
Fuck you.
Exactly.
Can I say that on here, please?
Okay.
Fuck yes.
All, all of the fucks here.
It's so funny.
Everybody that comes on, they'rejust like, can I curse?
And I'm like, absolutely, pleasedo.
And the first thing they sayafter I say, they're just like,
fuck yes.
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It's liberating.
It is liberating.
but yeah, no.
And then that same day I wasasking you how to make a garment
out of plants ethically.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
And then you hit me up like twoweeks later for the botanical
ball.
Yes.
Yes, I remember that.
Yes.
And that's just kind of how itall started.
That's how we got here.
Yeah.
That's how we became friends.
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Yes.
So like I always do withfranchise Friday with the first
episode, it's all about you.
Before we even get into themovie, I want everybody to get
to know you.
Of course.
'cause you're fantastic.
You're wonderful people.
Aw.
You know what?
I'm just going to, right outtathe gate, let's talk Plant Daddy
md.
Yeah, because that's your bigbaby right now.
It is my baby.
Yeah.
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So tell us about it.
So Plant Daddy MD is a businessthat I found this year where I
go to people's homes andbusinesses and I doctor their
plants.
I.
So this could be house plants,indoor plants, outdoor plants.
I also do plant sitting, plantmaintenance and plant styling.
Plant styling, plant styling.
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So if you have like anovergrown, like 16-year-old
fiddle leaf fig and it is windy,it is bent, you don't even know
how to shape it.
Mm-hmm.
Give me a call.
We kind of look at what thestructure is and we remake it
into something that is a littlebit more beautiful to look at,
but also safe for the plant aswell.
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Oh, I didn't even think aboutthat.
Yeah.
'cause there's a lot of olderplants that people don't know
what to do with later down theline.
Yeah.
And when people, I think a bigthing is that when people get
into house plants, they don'trealize, whoa, this thing lives
for a long time, possiblyforever.
Mm-hmm.
So I help out mature plants bykind of making them look.
Aesthetically beautiful.
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there are many beautiful thingsthat you could do.
Many beautiful things.
That's really cool.
I didn't know that.
I didn't know about plantstyling.
Of course.
I the doctoring totally.
I've killed unfortunately, agood handful of plants in my
life.
'cause it's one of those thingswhere I, so many people wanna be
plant gays.
Lots of us wanna be plant gays.
But the aesthetic of being aplant gay is completely
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different than the reality ofbeing a plant gay, where you
have to really know, you know,what direction your window is
facing.
You know, what plants need thisand when, and like, where can I
put this one where I had noidea.
Still kind of don't, I'm gonnahit you up for some classes or
something.
Oh yeah.
Always, always.
Do you offer classes?
I, I would love to start doingworkshops.
Mm-hmm.
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I'm in talks of some differentbusinesses around the area that
would love to host me.
I just have to, to write out thelesson plan.
So you'll definitely be invited.
You all are invited.
Yes.
Yes.
Welcome.
No, that's exciting.
you've always been super, superknowledgeable and I'm so happy
that you're getting theopportunity to share that
knowledge with the wider cityarea.
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That's great.
That's great.
I, I feel that New York City issuch a specific environment.
So when you look up.
Plant care, plant tips on justGoogle or the internet.
You're gonna get so manydifferent opinions from people.
But the thing is, is that notall of those opinions are gonna
be correct.
Mm-hmm.
You need to have someone whounderstands what it's like to
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live in New York City, to be ina really, really crowded
apartment, ac heating rods, thattype of environment.
Mm-hmm.
And honestly, New York Cityplants are the strongest plants.
Oh, are they?
Because we have to endureeverything.
That's true.
You know what I mean?
Like they, they literally aretorched like this past week.
But then also you have to dealwith air conditioners blasting
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on them.
Mm-hmm.
We have winter, we have longwinters.
Tight spaces, windows that couldpossibly be block blocked by
another building.
So you talk to a gardener whoperhaps lives in California.
Much more open space, much moresunlight, more temperate.
Versus here where things changeand when things change, they
fluctuate as well, but alsoextreme.
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But that honestly yields some ofthe strongest plants.
That's good to know.
Yeah.
What doesn't kill you?
Make you stronger it sounds likeyou're the hero that New York
needs for their plants.
So I do.
Um, yeah.
I always like imagining myselfas a little bit of a superhero.
I agree.
Well, that's kind of how Ienvision you I feel like we need
to, uh, install like a plantsignal in this city just to like
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shoot into the sky.
I would love that.
Would it be a picture plant?
What would it be?
Oh, would it be.
I think it would be, oh, apicture.
I mean, a picture plant would befunny, but people would probably
think it's a dick dick.
That's true.
Oh goodness.
Well,'cause I know you havepicture plants, right?
I do have picture plants, carverplants were one of my favorites.
Same.
The killer plants, of course.
Yes.
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Carnivorous plants are so horroricon coated.
They are, they are.
So tell me, what do you loveabout carnivores Plants?
I love carnivores plants becausethere's a, a eerie ear beauty to
them at the same time.
So there's like this kind of, Ifeel that carnivorous plants are
very, very romantic in a way.
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there's something almost.
Erotic about them?
Yeah.
I'cause they, yeah,'cause likehow they move, how they lure
their prey.
I was gonna say they're veryseductive.
Yeah.
Yeah.
They're very like, come overhere.
Like even like even humans, weare entranced by them.
Like I, when you see a Venus flytrapps mouth, you want to look
in there, you want to poke it,but you never wanna do that with
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any other plant.
But somehow out with that plantyou want to do it to.
Yeah.
In a picture plant, you want tolook inside of that picture,
what's going on in there?
I do.
So even to uh uh, pray that it'stoo big for the plant to eat,
even we are lured into them.
Mm-hmm.
And I think that's kind of, kindof beautiful and kind of sexy in
a way.
I agree.
Mm-hmm.
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I have always been enamored ofcarnivores plants.
I just find them so fascinating.
I.
In my mind it's like, oh, thetables have turned now the
plants eating.
Yeah, yeah.
You know, like kind of jokes onyou.
But I remember as a kid, like Icouldn't wrap my mind around a,
a salad eating of human is how Ithought about it when I was a
kid.
Yeah.
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Like the salads eating me.
Oh, but fun fact, most riskplants are non-toxic.
Really?
Yeah.
So like you can eat one.
You can eat one and be perfectlyfine.
Isn't that funny?
I don't know if I'd want tothough.
I don't think I've ever eatenone.
Yeah.
I don't like eating my kids.
I was gonna say, So you have apicture Plant, Venus, fly Traps.
Pitcher, plant, Venus flytrap.
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I have Sundus.
They have like little tentacles.
Yeah.
And they have like littlestickies on the 10 and then they
wrap up their prey like a littlefruit rollup.
Oh, fruit rollup or fruit by thefoot.
Fruit butter.
Okay.
Yes.
That's so funny.
I have butter wart.
Which one?
What, what are those butterwarts kind of look like?
Your traditional succulents,like the eve rosette,
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succulents.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
But instead of like a smoothleaf, it's a sticky leaf.
So it's like a, a sticky trap.
Oh.
Oh, that's so cool.
I might have you come backoutside of franchise Friday and
just talk about carnivorousplants.
Oh.
So we might do that.
Let me know everybody if youwant that.
Or I might just do it for me.
That might just be like my ownlittle gift and we just dissect
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the plants together.
Yes.
So, I am curious about,'causeyou talked about plant styling
and I view you as a creativeperson.
I mean, especially now with, youknow, you're running your
business, you're managing socialmedia mm-hmm.
So what's your creative processlike?
for my content, for my videos, Ialways like to be number one
educational.
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I want people to be able to takeaway.
One, two or three tips from eachvideo.
Mm.
So even though things arepackaged up in a very humorous
and sparkly a DHD style mm-hmm.
At the end of the video, I stillwant you to be able to be like,
oh, I know how to take care of asnake plant now.
Mm-hmm.
I know how to, prune back thisplant.
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I know.
How to take care of acarnivorous plant.
Mm-hmm.
I love people taking awayinformation mm-hmm.
In a fun way.
So first and foremost, educationall the way.
But I like things that are veryquick.
Mm.
Snappy, funny.
I think that's the best way forpeople to learn is when
something comes out quickly,catches your attention, but also
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you're able to retain knowledgeat the same time.
Yeah.
And it takes a special skill tobe able to do that.
'cause not everybody is able tomaster brevity in that way.
It takes that, yeah.
It takes a lot of, a lot oftakes.
A lot of people don't see, likewhen they, when they watch my
videos, they're like, oh my God,this seems so like, fun and
flowy.
But not a lot of people see whathappens behind the scenes., Dirt
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flying everywhere.
Pots knocking over wigs.
Flying off.
Oh, okay.
Well let's talk about that youdid something that was really
fun.
I think it was yesterday ormaybe the day before you did the
top three gayest plants.
So tell me about that video,because like, where did the
inspiration come from?
The idea for coming up withgayest plants mm-hmm.
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Was, I know that a lot of myfriends have sent me videos of
like, oh, this person says like,this plant is gay, this plant is
this, and I'm watching it, andI'm just like, oh, it's not,
it's not hitting, it's nothitting.
I mean, like, yeah, thisflower's a lesbian, but why?
Mm-hmm.
Or like, you know, these arebisexual.
I, I, I, I appreciated the idea,but I wanted people to go a
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little further.
and I think when I used to workat the plant store, we also had
discussions of what, what's agay plant?
What's a lesbian plant?
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
And so it just be kind of likethis inside joke So it was a, a
perfect storm, and I said, okay,I think it's time for me to make
my top three gaze plants.
So my top three gaze plants,number one is a Rex Pogonia.
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It's like really, really like,like frilly and floy and frill
and floy.
Huge leaves, spiraling leaves.
Tons of color.
Really, really big.
Like they're grown for size.
and there, so she's a sizequeen.
She's a size queen.
She's a size queen.
Everybody, but also a totalthumb.
Okay.
Listen, we love it.
I love it.
I love vert the bitches.
Yeah.
And so, and a deeper dive too,is that the Rex Pogonia names?
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Gay.
Really?
So for instance, you have,Jurassic Watermelon, Rex Pogonia
Persian Swirl, raspberrySherbert, double El Paso Fire
Flush.
Dule, like, wait, is that reallya thing?
Yes.
Like if you look up, these arelike drag queen names.
They're drag queen names.
Like if you look up the, thevarieties of Rex boas, all of
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them gay.
That's great to know.
You know, a gay man was involvedwith the naming process.
Perfect.
So that's number one.
That's number one.
And number two.
Number two I would say is avariated snake plant.
Okay.
So you think you're getting likea regular snake plant Uhhuh, but
no, no, no, no, no.
Looks can be deceiving.
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Ooh.
This one actually requires alittle bit more light than your
usual snake plant.
Okay.
So it actually is more highermaintenance.
Oh, she's a queen.
She's, yeah, she's a queen.
Okay.
So, you know, like I, I feellike whenever you're like on
grinder, you, you soap, likehey, you like, but then right
when they, they come over, theyfucking drop their pants.
And put their bath butts in theair.
(13:59):
Yep.
Oh my gosh.
Yeah.
Gabe, I feel that Okay.
Yeah.
So we we're talking like thebait and switch.
Yeah.
Like the, the DL trade, that lowkey wants you to put it up
there.
Exactly.
Exactly.
Okay.
So that is the variegated snakeplant.
Okay.
And then my third is Venus TieTrapp.
I'm here for it.
Obvious reasons.
Mm-hmm.
But the biggest reason is thatthere's a musical written about
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the Venus Fly Trap, So thisplant loves musicals.
Okay.
Gay gay's.
Gay.
Good.
Good, good, good.
Gay, gay.
Well, thank you for sharing.
I loved that video.
It was so much fun.
It was, you're right.
It was so sparkly and frenetic.
And I mean that in the bestpossible way, everybody.
So we talked about what's the,what the gayest plants are.
Mm-hmm.
I'm curious to know which plantsare the most horrifying in real
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life.
Oh, one would think carnivorousplants, right?
Carnivore, carnivorous plants,of course traditionally.
Mm-hmm.
You think are very, veryhorrifying.
first thing that comes to mindabout the idea of horror is what
I see when I doctor people'splants.
Oh.
So it's not actually the plantthat's horrifying.
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It's what people do to theplant.
That's horrifying.
Okay.
That's where my mind goes when Ithink of horrifying plants.
Okay.
So, well, let's talk, so when Ithink of a horrifying plant, I
think of the first image thatcomes to my mind.
Is a mushy, rotten snake plantover watered and not like over.
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Yeah.
Drained properly.
And the thing is, is that if youever experienced a over watered
snake plant and one that'srotting off, number one, the
stench is horrible.
Oh.
It smells like rot.
And when you touch the leaves,literally they melt off in your
hands and they become allstringy and mushy.
That's, it's disgusting.
It's just like when you leaveall of your vegetables in the
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good intentions drawer in yourfridge and you forget about'em
for like three weeks.
That's the kind of texture,that's the kind of stuff, but
it's not even cold.
It's warm.
Ew.
Yucky.
Okay.
That is pretty horrifying.
It's pretty horrifying.
This is the body horror part ofthe, this is body horror.
This is Gore.
This is Cronenberg, this isGore.
Oh yeah.
I think a rotted snake plantOkay.
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Close mention is also any plantthat is infested with a kind of
pest.
Oh yeah.
So One example was, I was, uh, Iwas doctoring this really,
really old cactus in industrycity.
Beautiful, beautiful office,beautiful room.
And they're just like, wassomething's wrong with our
cactus?
We just don't know what's wrongwith it.
So I go over to the cactus.
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I'm like, wow, what a beautifulghost cactus.
Mm-hmm.
He's like, yeah, yeah.
I was like this cool, Whitepowder to it.
It's really nice and likecreepy.
We love it.
Yeah.
I'm like, yeah, yeah.
I've never seen one this bigbefore.
I take a closer look though.
That's not, that's not a shadeof white.
It's scale.
Scale is a pest that kind offorms this hard, Shelly outside
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Uhhuh.
But this scale, instead of beingtraditional brown or a dark
color, it was translucent.
So I looked, it literally, thiswhole thing was covered in this
translucent skin.
Wild.
And it was all pests.
Like literally the pests havecreated an exoskeleton outside
of this cactus.
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And the only way I could getthat scale off is with a
screwdriver.
And I peeled off one like sliveruhhuh of it off.
And we saw the true color of thecactus.
It's green underneath.
Disgusting.
That's, that's for some reasonhearing that, I just imagine it
like, on my skin and Iimmediately get the
heebie-jeebies, I think of likethe flesh eating bacteria.
(17:36):
Like, oh my God.
Like, like in like parasitickinda shit.
Whoa, whoa.
Okay.
Yeah.
That's, that's, that'shorrifying.
We need to change.
What do I do for a living?
Horrifying.
What you do for a living, nor I,all right.
I'm gonna change the subjectbefore I get disgusted.
let's talk, we're gonna talk alittle bit about queerness.
'cause it is pride, everybody.
Mm.
What queer stereotype do youmost embody?
Oh, I'm really extra aboutthings.
(17:58):
Yes.
I realized, I realized that justthinking about like, okay, what
is, what is just something youdo all the time.
I go the extra mile mm-hmm.
To do the most ridiculousthings.
Fair.
So, for instance, when Istretch, it's not.
It's ah, you know what I mean?
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When I sit, it's not justsitting, it's leaning.
It's a little pose.
Okay.
There's a flo to it.
There's like a, how do I makethis more fabulous, even if I'm
not speaking?
I love that.
I just have to be a little, Ilove that.
Just a little extra.
Putting a little extra sugar onit.
Just a little dusting a littlebit, just a little dusting.
I love doing that, in asituation, like at the gym when
(18:39):
I'm not even talking, but likehow I put back a weight, I love
that.
I just live, live, I live andlove doing little extra things.
Just a little bit more.
Yeah.
It's like, yes.
I will take an extra ketchuppacket as you, as you should.
Yeah.
Oh.
so we, you're a horror girly.
Yes, yes.
Yes.
When did you get into horror?
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So, I grew up with horrormovies.
Okay.
Meaning that my parents lovedhorror movies.
So my moms used to watch TheExorcist.
Poltergeist.
creep show was also, I fuckinglove creep show.
Oh.
Was also on t uh, on the TVgrowing up.
Mm-hmm.
So I was always surrounded bythe horror genre.
But it wasn't until the ninetieswhen I actively chose Yes.
(19:29):
Everybody, this is the contentI'm here for.
Do it Again.
Um, it wasn't until the ninetiesthat I actively chose to watch a
horror movie.
Okay.
And my first movie of choice wasScream.
Oh, what a, what A movie to comeoutta the gate choosing Ugh.
(19:51):
I remember going to the movietheater mm-hmm.
At my mall.
Mm-hmm.
When the malls used to behappening.
Oh gosh.
Yeah.
I, I miss'em all.
Little side note.
Yeah.
I miss'em all.
But yeah.
So you went to the mall, yousaw, went to the mall, Uhhuh
went to the movie theater there,saw Scream, and I was like, this
is amazing.
But I was too young tounderstand like, what it
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represents.
I was like, oh my God, why am Iso into this?
Mm-hmm.
Um, so that was kind of my, uh,my gateway horror.
That's on that.
That's a good one.
Yeah.
Even if you don't understandthe, the context, you know, or
the landscape that that moviewas released in and how it
breathed so much fresh air intothe horror genre mm-hmm.
(20:32):
Outside of its impact.
It's such a good movie.
It's How old were you when youwatched it?
like 1996?
96 I think.
Yeah.
I 10.
I was like eight or nine when wefirst watched it.
We first watched it at home.
We were a blockbuster house.
Oh yeah.
Wait, how did I get in there?
Because it was rated at R,right?
Yeah.
(20:53):
Did anybody take you?
No, my parents dropped me off.
They were like, here you go.
Did you maybe just like theclassic movie hop thing maybe?
Yeah.
Oh no.
I used to do shit like that.
I love that shit.
Anyway.
When did horror start feelingqueer to you?
I think maybe recently.
Really?
Yeah.
Okay.
Let's talk because I'm a littlebit of a.
(21:13):
I don't really think aboutthings.
I think I was having thisdiscussion with one of my
friends, like Richard, you areso brilliant with plants.
Mm-hmm.
Like body and horticulture, buteverything else, you're kind of
like, you're a little bit of aditz.
I think that's the gaystereotype that we embody.
Wait, whatcha talking about?
I'm really smart.
Oh, I'm so smart.
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You are smart.
So smart.
Listen, you can be smart and notuse it.
True So recently is when itRecently, yeah.
Okay.
I think actually through youprobably because you were like,
well like, oh this, this is soqueer.
I'm like, oh yeah, yeah, I knewthat.
Mm-hmm.
But like when I went home afterthe coffee, I was like, wait a
minute, did I understand that orjust did I just agree to
something?
No, that's so funny.
So I'm so I'm still figuring itout.
(21:54):
Yeah.
Oh no.
And this is a great place tofigure that out too.
'cause we're just gonna be.
Obviously I'm gonna be throwingshit out there.
Please do.
By all means.
Yeah.
I wish to be educated.
Yes.
And your opinions of course, arewelcome as well.
If there's anything that you,oh, you'll be hearing it.
You'll be hearing it, of course.
Whether you like it or not, thismic is on.
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Now you grew up watching horror.
Was there one that scared youthe most as a kid?
Ooh, I think the one that scaredme the most was probably Child's
play.
Mm-hmm.
Oh, specifically this, I thinkit's Child Child's Play two.
I think you have to, you have toremind me.
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'cause Tell me.
Tell me what scared you aboutit.
It's still okay.
It's when they were in the ToyFactory.
Two.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And they start putting likeplastic things into Chucky.
Oh, so good.
And then like he fills up withand then there's the conveyor
belt and he comes out allmutated and shit.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That freaked me out as a kid.
Child's Play two is my favoritechild's play movie.
I haven't released the Cult ofChucky episode yet.
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Mm.
But we do like our final wrap upon the child's play series.
And if memory serves correctly,'cause I'm a Gemini, my opinion
changes with the wind, but I'mpretty sure at the time I said
that child's play two is myfavorite one.
Yeah.
It's so good.
Oh, I'm a Virgo.
You're a Virgo.
Virgo.
Oh yeah.
We're both mutable signs.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I fuck with Virgos.
Oh yes.
I love a Virgo.
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So.
Wait, Virgo and then my risingis Leo.
Okay.
I'll forgive you.
I'll forgive you.
And my moon is in Leo too.
Oh no.
everybody.
I'm sorry.
We're gonna have to find a newco-host.
I shoved out the window.
No, here's the thing.
Here's the thing.
I, I do, I love Leo's.
The problem is there's, there'sa handful of Leos out there that
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don't like me.
I'm sorry.
It's just the tea That's somean.
It's Well, do you want me totalk to'em?
No, no, no.
Please don't.
I Do you want me to saysomething?
They're gone.
It's it, they're gone.
It's fine.
No, I think what it is isthere's just, there's certain
Leos out there that hate thefact that I effortlessly pull
attention and Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
That's kind of what it is.
That's the tease.
They don't like that.
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So, Listen.
And I fuck with fire signs.
It's fine.
Yeah, yeah, it's fine.
I just.
I have like post Leo traumaticstress.
I mean, understandably so.
Mm-hmm.
Understandably so.
Okay.
But I think that you the's Okay.
The, the Virgo.
Honestly, the Virgo is whatsaves me.
It really is.
Because the thing is, is thatlike Leos are all like
showboating and shit, and like,no, no, no.
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But a Virgo a Virgo is athinker.
So I Didn't you just say thatyou don't think that, I don't
know why you're coming after.
Why are you coming after this?
Shut it down.
Shut it down.
Shut it down.
Shut it down.
I know what you didn't do lastsummer.
I did too much.
I really didn't do much.
I would not be a good characterin this.
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Oh, very nice.
Oh, I know you did.
Actually, I didn't do anything.
It's like, you, you know, youknow what I did last summer?
I don't even know what I didyesterday.
So thank you.
Yeah, thank you.
Do you wanna tell me?
Please tell me.
Please tell me.
Oh, no, it's okay.
We Virgo.
It's all forgiven.
What horror trope do youabsolutely live for?
Like, what's your favorite tropein horror movies?
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A define trope.
She's a thinker.
Everybody.
She's a thinker.
A trope is something, oh my God.
Realize that's stupid.
No, no, no.
This is great.
No, I'm being, but I'm beinghonest.
No, it's fair.
A trope is just like somethingthat you see a lot.
not necessarily cliche, butit's, it's a type of occurrence
(25:25):
that happens in horror movies,for example.
You will have sex and then youwill die.
Ah, okay.
You know, uh, if you smoke weed,you die.
It's just something that you,that's very formulaic.
You see it a lot in horrormovies.
Okay.
You know, um, what are someother ones?
Why am I drawing a blank rightnow?
Uh, well, the Final Girl.
The finer girl, like the finergirl in itself is kind of a
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trope.
the slasher having, a phallicweapon.
Oh.
Somebody going in, oh, runningupstairs instead of going out
the door, splitting up.
You know, those are, those aretropes.
Okay, okay.
You know?
And you also think of likecharacter types.
Like you have your, your stonercharacter.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Again, you have the final girl,you have the shitty boyfriend,
things like that.
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My favorite trope is probablythe bad girl.
The Bad girl.
I love a good, bad girl.
Oh yeah.
Oh yeah.
We love a bad girl.
She's, she's always like the onethat's always paired up with the
innocent one or the virgin.
Mm-hmm.
And she's just like the badass,she's like the bad influence.
Love the bad girls.
I think of my favorite bad girl.
This is horror.
It's not slasher, but myfavorite bad girl is Faith from
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Buffy the Vampire Slayer.
Oh, yes.
Yes.
I'm rewatch, I'm doing a Buffyrewatch right now, everybody,
which I'm super happy.
'cause SMG is in this movie thatwe're talking about.
She is.
Oh, wait.
Oh, oh, I'm sorry.
No, no, no.
She has no, she has no, she,sorry.
I like I fast, I fast forwarded.
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Oh my God.
So fucking funny.
Uh, So I'm on se I just finishedseason three, so Faith is Fresh
on my mind.
Faith is my favorite characterin that whole franchise.
Uh, that whole, the series.
I love Faith.
I mean like, uh, of course Ilove Buffy.
Yeah.
Oh yeah.
Everyone loves Buffy.
Everyone loves Buffy.
I and Willow too.
I love Willow.
I love Willow.
Willow.
Yeah.
Who would be my favorite though?
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I kind of like Giles.
Giles is great.
They're all great.
Yeah.
They're actually all except forXander, if you stand Xander.
Oh, no, no, no.
That's cool.
Yeah, we, he's like a, JossWhedon has admitted himself.
Xander is a self insert and itshows.
Yeah.
Although I did think he was kindof cute, like I did too,
specifically in, It was atseason two.
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It was when he joined theswimming team episode, the swim
team.
Oh my God.
How did you know what too?
Because same.
I was like, oh, what a loser.
And then right when he joinedthe, I was like, actually, hmm.
Yeah, it's the episode's calledGo Fish.
It's the episode before the, thetwo part season finale think's
like episode 20.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We, we get a nice little slow moshot of him in the Speedo.
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I get it.
I was like, ah, it's Xander.
And in the nineties, theobjectification of males like
that wasn't that common.
So I get it.
I 100% get it.
I'm curious to know how I'm,this is gassy.
Lemme have some of that.
I feel like I need some now Iknow I'm not this bel.
I don't know why you just bringit outta me.
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It's the gas.
Yes.
I bring gas outta people.
I need to get on board with you.
Ugh.
There we go.
Not as good as yours.
Yours is deeper.
It is cute.
Thank you.
Yeah, I'm just, keep it cute.
I'm just a woman.
Keep I'm just a dainty littlewoman.
do you have a guilty pleasurehorror movie?
Mm-hmm.
Like a horror movie that youenjoy that other people don't or
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that you feel like you shouldn'tenjoy?
I really liked Megan.
Is that considered a horrormovie?
Uh, it is considered a horrormovie.
I don't think that's a guiltypleasure though.
But that's fine.
Everyone like it?
Yeah.
Everyone, yeah.
Megan's Cty.
I'm trying to think like, what'ssomething that no one likes?
I think of things like Evil Bongor, um, oh, okay.
Okay.
You've opened the door.
Yeah.
Okay, great.
there's a movie called Santa'sSleigh.
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I haven't.
Have I seen it?
It's really bad.
Okay.
I think Chris Catan is, is init.
Okay.
It's an all star opening castUhhuh.
Oh, is that the one with fuckingfriend?
The nanny?
Yes.
Yeah.
Yeah.
When she's like Santa.
Yes.
I think that's the one.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I haven't seen it, but I'veheard about it.
It's pretty bad love.
And like, there's a claymationlike part of the movie, like
it's really bad.
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One of the most ridiculoustwists is that Santa Claus can
like throw fireballs out of hismouth.
It was, it was really weird.
the protagonists were likerunning away from Santa.
Like, ha ha, get, take thatSanta and Santa goes.
Sorry about, that's wild.
That is wild.
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I do have to see that movie.
It's really bad.
I will say though, I'm a slutfor Claymation.
I love claymation.
Like stop motion claymation,that kind of stuff.
It's a, it's an art form.
If they throw it into a movie,it doesn't matter how good or
bad it is.
I'm gonna, I'm gonna appreciatethe fuck out of it, everybody.
I'm gonna appreciate the fuckout of that.
I'm gonna, I have to wait.
I refuse to watch any kind ofChristmas or holiday horror
until the holiday until Yes,yes, yes.
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So we're gonna put a pin inthat.
Everybody, everybody listeningat home and watching at home.
Put a pin in that we're allgonna watch Santa Slay this
season.
And when you hate it, go aheadand uh, shoot Richard a dm.
I'm gonna do a burp count.
I'm gonna do a burp counteverybody.
(30:22):
I'm not even kidding.
whatever burps, make it into theedit.
at the end of our seasontogether, I'm going to let you
know how many times you burpedinto my microphone.
All right, everybody.
Cha, challenge, accept,challenge, acceptance, challenge
accepted.
I've already lost count.
Editing.
Cry Baby Future.
Cry baby out there.
Have fun with that.
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You committed to it on camera.
Is there a horror movie that is.
Critically acclaimed one that isgenerally said to be good that
you don't like.
Yes.
Yes.
Okay.
Um, Nosferatu, you didn't likeNosferatu?
No, that was kind of boring.
Okay.
That's fair.
You don't strike me as a periodgirly though.
No, no, no.
Definitely not.
I'm like, why does, why does thequality look so bad?
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Eggers is very much about like,transporting you back to a
historically accurate piece oftime.
Mm.
So I get it.
The dialogue can be kind of dry,but you didn't like how horny it
was.
I didn.
I You didn't like, you didn'tlike the Nosferatu dong just
being slung all over the place.
I just, I literally was cleaningmy kitchen while watching it.
Okay.
Yeah.
I was, listen, listen, thejudgment, I'm not judging you.
(31:28):
I get it.
Okay.
Here.
No, no, no.
I get it.
Because when I first watched it,I.
I wasn't sure.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I wasn't sure if I liked it ornot, you know?
I had to sit with it and then Iwent back and watched it again
and I'm like, okay.
Like, it was good.
Mm-hmm.
It's not as good as everybodysaid it was, but like, I liked
it.
Yeah.
I fucking love thecinematography in it, I think.
Oh, okay.
Oh, you're coming from like afilm perspective.
Yeah.
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I can get the story kind of gigand, you know, some of the
acting wasn't the best.
Yeah.
So no judgment here.
It's hard to get me like towatch a movie though.
Like I will get, I wonder why Iwill get distracted.
I'll get distracted reallyeasily.
Yes.
I can tell I'm reallydistracted.
(32:10):
Like if something doesn't hookme in within like 30 seconds,
I'm like, ah, I have to changethis.
Okay.
Fair.
Yeah.
So everybody, if you ever wantto get Rich's attention, you got
30 seconds to do it.
You got 30 seconds.
All right.
I always feel bad on like firstdates with guys.
Oh gosh.
I'm like, don't, don't ever feelbad about a first date with a
guy.
I never feel bad on a first dateever.
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First off, I'm just gonna behonest.
It's impossible to get me on afirst date.
Really?
Yeah.
I just, I dunno how to explainit without sounding like a
bitch, but it's just, I have somuch going on in my life right
now.
Yeah.
So much that I'm working on.
You know, I have a wonderfulgroup of friends and I have such
a rich number of platonic,enriching relationships that I
(32:57):
don't find myself.
Actively searching for aromantic partner.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You know, and that's not to saythat I don't want one, like I'm
not a romantic.
I very much am into it, but Ijust, it it, I need a very
special kind of person to dothat.
Yeah.
And you got a lot, you got allon your plate right now.
I have so much on my plate.
She doesn't have time.
But some tea.
One of my favorite things, Ifirmly believe that environment
(33:20):
is like crucial to things,right?
Yes.
Our bodies rememberenvironments.
Mm-hmm.
So I have a first date coffeeshop and I have a breakup coffee
shop.
Oh yeah.
I haven't been there in aminute, but they were both in
Williamsburg where I used towork.
Yeah.
I had the coffee shop that, notone that I loved too much, but
it was one that was cute that Ienjoyed being in.
(33:41):
That was my first day coffeeshop.
Mm.
And then the coffee shop that Iabsolutely hated.
I thought it was trash,everybody.
I was like, okay, this is whereI'm gonna break up with people.
So this poor barista is probablynew.
Anytime I came in there with aguy that all something's
happening, someone's gonna becrying.
So, and people say that, that'slike crazy behavior.
I don't think so.
Do you think it, I don't thinkthat's crazy at all.
I don't think it's crazybehavior at all.
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Not at all.
I've seen a lot crazier on thestreets here.
Thank you.
Alright, my final question foryou, before we do our rapid fire
shit, final question.
Final question.
What do you love the most abouthorror?
I like horror movies because itgives young actresses a chance
to, to be the the new girl.
a lot of, horror movies.
(34:23):
There's always a new talent, anew actress to be, to be shown
off.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
So I think it's a great, a greatmovie to highlight really,
really strong female actors.
No, I, I think that's a greatanswer.
Yeah.
I especially like, because it'snever about the guy.
Let's be honest.
Horror movies are always aboutthe girl.
Yes.
Yes they are.
'Cause they're more interesting.
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Way more interesting.
Way more interesting.
And we wanna see them fuckingkick ass too.
Absolutely.
Feminism, I was, I would suggestCarol Clover, she's an academic
that talks about the final girland everything, but you don't
like to think I was, yeah.
You lost me.
Yes.
All right, Richard, you havegraduated from the hard
(35:05):
questions.
Now we're gonna get to our rapidfire interview questions.
Oh no.
I do this with every personthat's new on my show.
Just a bunch of questions.
Don't think about them, whichshouldn't be hard for you.
Oh, it should be easy.
Okay.
I'm scared.
Whatever falls out of your mouthis what it is.
First most important question,are we feeling hydrated today?
(35:26):
We could be more.
We could be more.
Oh God.
We just get a good swing.
There's gonna be about two and ahalf minutes before we hit a
burp.
Everybody, maybe less to answerthe first rapid Yes.
Yes.
You're feeling hydrated.
I'm wonderful.
Even though you're hungover.
I, oh yeah.
No, I'm hydrated.
Good for you.
I'm hydrated.
Good for you.
What's your go-to breakfast?
None.
I, you know what?
(35:47):
No, no, no, no, no.
I skip breakfast too.
I don't, I don't, the firstthing in my mind in the morning
is not what I'm going to eat.
Mm-hmm.
It's what I'm going to eat likelater.
Like later.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I, I like skipping breakfast aswell.
Everybody, I work out fasted.
All that stuff is way better.
Yeah.
I don't like, that's like heavy.
Like I wanna Exactly.
I like, I like my coffee, I likemy caffeine.
Mm-hmm.
That's my go-to breakfast.
(36:07):
That's my, yeah.
That's my go-to breakfast.
Yes.
Yes.
Okay.
Perfect.
Coffee.
Coffee.
Wonderful.
Do you have a go-to movie snack?
None.
None.
None.
None.
You just, I want to be dedicatedto the movie.
Like literally don't give mepopcorn.
I don't need water.
I don't need candy.
It's just my hands like this onchair.
All of your senses.
Okay.
'cause if I'm locked in, I'mlocked in.
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I don't want any distractions.
Okay.
Fair, fair enough.
Would you rather watch a slasheror a supernatural movie?
Oh, supernatural.
Supernatural.
Super supernatural.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Do you prefer a movie that'smore of a slow burn or one that
has lots of jump scares?
Jump scares, of course.
Absolutely matches your energy.
It was like slow burn.
Now, do you prefer, trashy cultclassics?
Trash or pristi?
(36:52):
This is rapid.
Listen, I get it trashy as well.
Do you have a horror movie, ick.
Just something that you see in ahorror movie that immediately
you're just like, I fucking hatethat tokens to Oh, yeah.
Im just like, come on.
Yeah.
Like, I just, ugh.
Thankfully we're kind of movingaway from tokens sometimes.
Who's an underrated final girl?
Aren't they all kind of likeoverrated?
(37:14):
It depends.
I feel like there's some outthere that are kind of
underrated, that are overlooked.
Because you, you have your bighitters, right?
Like you have Sidney Prescott.
Yeah, yeah.
And Lori Strode and NancyThompson.
But who would be, yeah, whowould be on your, but people
think, you know, I think aboutKirsti Cotton from Hellraiser.
Nobody really thinks about her.
Oh.
You know?
Yeah.
Grace from Reddy or not ispretty wildly loved as a, as a
final girl.
But yeah, just like maybe inthose like forgotten horror
(37:36):
movies, you know, the ones thataren't like the big ones.
The big ones, yeah.
how about the Alien from Alien?
The, the Alien is the finalgirl.
Yeah.
Is the final girl.
Well, she's like a mom, but sheis, she's the killer.
But from whose perspective here,that's true.
(37:57):
That's a good point.
From whose perspective?
Who's perspective.
You know what?
I'll accept it.
The Alien queen is the ultimatefinal girl.
Although I don't think she dies,doesn't she?
Next question.
Okay.
All right.
So you are being chased by akiller.
Do you run upstairs or do yougrab a knife and fight?
Grab a knife and fight?
Of course you do.
Would you survive a horrormovie?
No.
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No, I don't think so either.
Would you ever have sex in acemetery?
Yeah, of course.
Absolutely.
Anybody who's on this programbetter have sex in a cemetery.
That's actually gonna be myscreening from now on.
This isn't a, this isn't a showfor babies.
No, baby.
No.
Ah, which horror villain couldget it?
Oh, what's his name?
(38:38):
Jigsaw.
You would have sex with Jigsaw,John Kramer.
Mr.
Self-Righteous, or are youtalking about the puppet?
No, I, I feel like you feel likehe, he makes situations.
Oh, you want the kink?
Yeah.
He's like, he's kink.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's what, that's why I wantto do it.
Think about all the creativeways he could tie you to the
bed, but also he could getsomeone else.
(38:58):
'cause he loves like playingwith people too.
Oh, that's true.
Oh, so you want a third?
Oh yeah.
Oh yeah.
We saw you from across the barand we liked your vibe.
Get in the cage.
It's the ideas.
That's great.
I, I'm attracted to his brain.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
Was not expecting that.
Everybody, I really like peoplefor their minds.
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So because I don't have, becauseI don't have That's true.
You do need a thinker.
Yeah.
To balance you out.
Which horror movie villain doyou think would be the worst
hookup?
By Freddy.
Really?
Yeah.
I don't really disagree withyou, but I'm curious to know
why.
He's like scabby and then hecomes back and like your
nightmares and stuff?
Mm-hmm.
I don't, I don't want thataround me.
(39:42):
Oh yeah.
There's no escaping that ex's?
No.
Like he's would always comebacks.
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
Okay.
Fair enough.
What horror item would you usein bed?
probably a good old knife.
A good old, some knife play.
Okay.
Nice.
All right.
Just in three words, what's yourvillain origin story?
Plants pushed.
Reemergence.
(40:08):
I'm gonna have to work reallyhard to decode that.
Everybody to decode that myself.
Plants pushed reemergence.
Okay.
Yeah.
Okay.
It's the three words.
Three words.
I followed the directionsaccepted.
Thank you.
So you're a killer.
Oh, yes.
What's your iconic look?
I think I would do, I think a, anight, a good jumpsuit.
Mm-hmm.
Kind of like a Ghostbusters typething.
(40:28):
Okay.
I feel like it would be like aneighties, like Okay.
Kind of vibe.
I would have a tool belt.
And then just really, reallyloud boots.
Loud boots.
I want you, he hearing likeclunk, clunk, clunk, clunk,
clunk, clunk.
Okay.
And somehow you're running.
I am still walking.
Slowly.
Yeah.
But you got the power of, ofplants pushed and reemergence
(40:49):
behind you, whatever that means.
Oh yeah.
Yeah, exactly.
What's your weapon?
My hands.
Okay.
Alright.
You like it?
Intimate.
You like having direct contactwith your victims.
Okay.
What's your tagline?
Photosynthesize this.
Fuck you.
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This is so this, I know this.
I'm loving this.
Everybody, I'm, I'm laughing.
I'm not laughing with you.
I'm laughing at you.
Yes.
You should laugh at me.
Oh gosh.
Okay.
Next question.
What's your most embarrassingmoment?
My most embarrassing moment wasin third grade Mrs.
Kennedy's class.
(41:30):
I was wearing a, a green PLAshirt.
With, uh, green jeans.
And matching like green socksand green sneakers.
Like, it was just like a all,all green.
I was really into this outfit.
But I really needed to go to thebathroom.
Oh, no.
And I said, Hey, Mrs.
Kennedy Uhhuh, can I use therestroom?
And she is like, mm.
I can't use the rest.
Because back, back in the oldendays, you couldn't, like, you
(41:52):
had to, did they still do that?
You had to ask permission.
You had to get the hall passedand everything.
Yeah.
I don't know.
That's like, it's mark bullshit.
It's kind of weird, like, nowthat I think about it, I'm like,
that's cruel.
You shouldn't do that.
Yeah.
Like, I needed to really pee.
It's not like I'm sneaking out.
Exactly.
Yeah.
History class was boring.
are you trying to give childrenUTIs?
Ms.
Kennedy?
Mrs.
Kennedy?
Photosynthesize.
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How old was I?
What grade was it?
Third grade, eight.
Third grade?
Yes, yes.
So 8-year-old Richard needs togo to the bathroom and he, and
he was like, no, you can't.
And so I pissed in my pants andI remember like my whole outfit
was ruined.
I remember like there was apuddle underneath there and I
was like, I need to leave now.
So right when that bell rankedto dismiss, I ran home.
(42:38):
That's awful.
And then no one said anything.
This Kennedy didn't say anythingabout it.
No one.
Not one word.
I feel like that's your villain.
Origin horror story.
Oh, I was, I was pushed, yeah.
Three words.
Mrs.
Kennedy.
Pissed.
All right.
What are you looking forward toright now?
I'm looking forward to knowingwhat we did last summer.
(42:59):
Oh, I'm looking forward tofinding that out too.
That convoluted ass storyline.
Alright, final rapid firequestion.
Alright.
Most important question.
Oh, was that just in general?
Yeah.
Oh, oh, that was pertaining toWhat are you looking forward to
right now?
it's a nice farmer's markets.
(43:22):
Yeah.
There, there's one every weekendhere in Bushwick and it's
Monday, so I have to wait allweek.
I'm looking forward to it.
You're looking forward tofarmer's markets?
Yes.
Okay.
Final question.
Yes.
What makes you a horror icon?
W-H-O-R-R-O-R.
Icon.
What makes you a horror icon?
I think,'cause I'm like smartbut kind of dumb at the same
(43:44):
time.
Uhhuh.
Yeah.
And people like that person.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
I mean, this is the queerplayground for all things.
Scary, sexy and stupid.
Stupidest part of it.
Everybody listen.
You don't gotta be smart to be ahorror icon.
Yeah.
No, no, no, no.
Yeah.
You can have big tits in a dreamthat's see.
Exactly.
Yeah, exactly.
Yes.
I think that's, yeah.
That's why I meant icon.
I love that because I'm likesexy, but.
S Sexy, but stupid.
(44:06):
I said that.
Yes, yes, yes, yes you are.
We already let them know we'retalking about I know what you
did last summer.
So I was specifically lookingfor somebody who would be down
to talk about, I know what youdid last summer and you were
very enthusiastic about it.
So tell me, A little bit aboutwhy you were super stoked to get
(44:27):
into I Know What you did lastsummer.
Well, it was one of my favoritemovies growing up.
So during that perfect storm,the first horror movie that I
watched was Scream.
Mm-hmm.
And so immediately after atwofer Oh wow.
Double Whammied immediatelyafter Scream came.
(44:47):
I know what you did last summer.
Mm-hmm.
But it was the perfect stormbecause Buffy also came out and
I was really, really into Buffythe Vampire Slayer.
So it was the perfect mix.
Yes.
For one Richard Fam.
I get that.
Yeah.
So it played a very integralrole in, in my childhood.
Mm-hmm.
Especially during the summerwhen it came out.
Yeah.
You told me you read the book,right?
(45:08):
I did.
Yeah, it did.
What did you think about thebook?
'cause I haven't read the bookyet, so the book is very, very
different from the movie.
Yeah.
Like it's more, uh, more, um.
It's like mystery.
Right?
It's like mystery.
Yeah.
It's like a Who done it?
Who, who does it?
Was it?
Which they're still like, I feellike Slashers now are like
always a who done it.
Yeah.
But yeah, it But it wasn't aboutlike the violence or the
(45:29):
killing.
Yeah.
It was more so just like thepsychological terror of them,
running away from their past orsomething like that.
Mm.
Okay.
Rather than like, oh, there'sactually a killer.
Okay.
I see.
Nice.
Nice.
did you read the book before yousaw the movie?
I read the book after I saw themovie.
Oh, okay.
So then were you disappointedeither direction?
(45:52):
I was very disappointed.
Yeah.
Yeah.
'cause I thought there was gonnabe like a chase scene.
I thought, you know, like I wasimagining Sarah and Michelle
Geller in it.
Yeah.
I'm like, Sarah Michelle wouldnever say this.
no.
That's awesome.
I'm, I'm right there with you.
I feel like I know you did lastsummer.
Well, not one of my mostfavorite movies.
I still, it does have a specialplace in my heart because of
that era.
'cause I think this one of allof the movies that were sparked
(46:17):
from Scream's success.
I feel like this is the one thatmost people know about.
Mm-hmm.
And reference.
Mm-hmm.
Like, it's the one that's themost closely associated with
Scream.
Yeah.
And I think a huge part of thatis, Kevin Williamson wrote both
of them.
He's the screenwriter.
Yeah.
Oh, I didn't know that.
He wrote the screenplay for IKnow What You Did Last Summer.
Oh.
And then we have our Hot, sexyteens.
(46:37):
Yes.
Yes.
in Scream mm-hmm.
I think it was just like NevCampbell ju like there's only a
few, uh Oh no, they were allteens.
Yeah.
But I felt like the, like, Iknow what you did last time was
like, these are your, your teenHeartthrobs.
Mm-hmm.
It was like the, the four of'em.
Well, it was the who's who ofthe nineties.
I mean, we had all, we had, wehad three.
(46:58):
Three name big hitters.
Jennifer Love Hewitt.
Sarah.
Sarah Michelle Geller, FreddiePrince Jr.
Oh yeah.
And then Ryan Philippine.
Ryan Philippine with his, histwo name Ha As Bitch.
But it really, like, it was thewho's who of that time.
It was, yeah.
Yeah.
They were all taking off.
Mm-hmm.
And you know, with Scream likeyeah.
(47:18):
You had Drew Barry Moore, whowas already very, very well
established at that point.
And But you had like older likefigures in there too.
Yeah, yeah.
Like David Arquette.
Yeah, yeah.
Courtney Cox was like more of anolder Exactly.
And like they, yeah.
Their mom, the, their stars momwas a character.
Oh gosh.
Maureen let that woman restpeople, God, every movie,
(47:40):
they're just like, let's dragMaureen Prescott through the
fucking mud.
That who My God.
Yeah.
No, this one, it's just, it feltlike an Allstar cast.
Yeah.
We had all the hotties of thenineties.
Mm-hmm.
Now I'm just curious to know,what do you expect from this
experience on horror icon fromthis?
'cause we're gonna be watchingthe whole franchise, so there's
three.
Yes.
So I know, I still know and I'llalways know.
(48:03):
And then we're also gonna hit upthat we're, we're doing that one
too.
The new one that's coming out.
Yeah, absolutely.
Yay.
So there's gonna be four moviesthat we're watching.
So what are you, uh, what areyou expecting from this
experience?
Well, I am expecting for you toexplain the queer intersection
of this movie.
I'm expecting you to do all thework.
(48:24):
That's what I expected.
I'm just here to burp and lookpretty, everybody.
That's literally what I'm herefor.
I'm like, I like the movie.
Yeah.
I love it.
Yeah.
I'm, I am, I'm ready to be, tobe mind blown.
I'm ready for you to tell me howthis intersects into queer
culture.
Yeah.
And maybe like, why do I like itso much?
(48:46):
I can't even explain it.
Yeah, that's a really goodquestion.
Maybe we will answer that.
It's like this is like a deeptherapy session.
Yeah.
Thank you.
Of course.
I'm also, I'm excited to hearwhat you think.
I think you're gonna stumbleupon some queer things without
knowing about it.
Game on.
Yep.
That's my goal.
Alright.
My goal is to activate at leasttwo of your brain cells by the
time we are done with this.
(49:07):
That's a lot.
That's, I might explode.
I think we can make that happen.
I think we can make that happen.
Alright.
Excellent.
So, that's it for our meet theco-host, episode.
Everybody, everybody.
Round of applause for Richard,Dan, plant Daddy MD Richard.
Yes.
Where can.
Our listeners find you, youcould find me on Instagram at
(49:29):
Lord Fierce on TikTok at PlantDaddy md and you can also check
out my website, plant daddymd.com.
She has a website, so officialmost excellent.
Yeah.
And of course you can find mecrybaby on the Instagram at
crying without the G in underPublic.
(49:50):
And then follow horror icon,that's gonna be Horror Icon Pod,
W-H-O-R-R-O-R, icon Pod.
And yeah, I think that's it.
Yeah.
Why am I asking you?
Anyway, everybody, we will seeon our next episode where we
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talk about the firstinstallment.
Until then, cuties, don't bescared unless you're into that
sort of thing.
Bye.
It was the first thing in myhead.
I'm obsessed with that., Youknow what?
I wish I did.
Okay.
I wish I was like, until nexttime.
Cuties photosynthesize this.
It's like this is like a deeptherapy session.
(00:01):
Yeah.
Thank you.
Of course.
I'm also, I'm excited to hearwhat you think.
My goal is to activate at leasttwo of your brain cells by the
time we are done with this.
That's a lot.
That's, I might explode.
I think we can make that happen.
I think we can make that happen.
Speaker (00:15):
What is your book of Well, hanging out with your
Smartest and Funniest Friend.
You know me, I'll kill
Speaker 2 (00:24):
anybody, but.
Hey Cuties, and welcome back toHorror Icon, your queer
playground for all things scary,sexy, and stupid.
Y'all know me, I'm crybaby thespooky slut from your wettest
(00:46):
nightmare.
And today we are joined by abrand new face here for our
franchise Fridays.
Everybody say hello toBrooklyn's favorite plant Daddy,
Richard Pham plant Daddy MD,right?
Yes, yes.
Plant Daddy MD.
Hello everyone.
Yes, rich.
I'm so fucking excited to haveyou here.
I'm really excited to be here.
Alright, so everybody, we'vebeen talking about this for
(01:09):
almost a month now, right?
Yep.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
And just the minute I was justlike, Hey, Richard, are you a
horror girly?
Uh, yeah, I am.
It's just been flooding my phonewith ideas and just like, oh,
the day I asked you, you watchedthe first two movies of the
franchise we're covering?
I did, yeah.
Yes.
Yeah, I just, I, wheneversummertime hits mm-hmm.
(01:31):
I always like revisiting some ofmy favorite teen horror movies.
So one of them, of course isShould I reveal it?
Yeah, go for it.
Pop it out there.
I know what you did last summer.
Oh, I bet you do.
Yes.
I'm so excited for this.
And can, I mean, there's, ifyou're only listening to this,
if you're not watching, there'sa huge visual cue.
I'm sitting here wearing myHelen Shivers best.
(01:55):
As close as I could get a littlehairy chested, but we're good.
I, I mean, the tits are great,so thank you.
Thank you.
She's very ample.
I grew them myself.
Well, welcome.
I'm so excited to have you.
I'm so excited that the horroricon audience gets to, uh, get
to know you.
They get to meet you and spendsome time with you because
Richard's a fun time, everybody.
Oh, thank you.
(02:16):
Yes.
No, absolutely.
I mean, it started well, yeah.
When did we meet?
We met when you worked at theplant shop.
Yes.
Yes.
The one right around the corner.
Yeah.
Uh, I had just quit my job atSephora, everybody, and I walked
into this plant shop and I wasjust like, yeah, I just quit my
job.
And you leaned over the desk andyou're just like, isn't quitting
a job fucking great?
(02:37):
You're like, good for you.
I fucking love quitting a job.
And I was just, it's a lot offun.
It's like a final, like, youknow what?
Fuck you.
Exactly.
Can I say that on here, please?
Okay.
Fuck yes.
All, all of the fucks here.
It's so funny.
Everybody that comes on, they'rejust like, can I curse?
And I'm like, absolutely, pleasedo.
And the first thing they sayafter I say, they're just like,
fuck yes.
(02:58):
It's liberating.
It is liberating.
but yeah, no.
And then that same day I wasasking you how to make a garment
out of plants ethically.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
And then you hit me up like twoweeks later for the botanical
ball.
Yes.
Yes, I remember that.
Yes.
And that's just kind of how itall started.
That's how we got here.
Yeah.
That's how we became friends.
(03:19):
Yes.
So like I always do withfranchise Friday with the first
episode, it's all about you.
Before we even get into themovie, I want everybody to get
to know you.
Of course.
'cause you're fantastic.
You're wonderful people.
Aw.
You know what?
I'm just going to, right outtathe gate, let's talk Plant Daddy
md.
Yeah, because that's your bigbaby right now.
It is my baby.
Yeah.
(03:39):
So tell us about it.
So Plant Daddy MD is a businessthat I found this year where I
go to people's homes andbusinesses and I doctor their
plants.
I.
So this could be house plants,indoor plants, outdoor plants.
I also do plant sitting, plantmaintenance and plant styling.
Plant styling, plant styling.
(04:00):
So if you have like anovergrown, like 16-year-old
fiddle leaf fig and it is windy,it is bent, you don't even know
how to shape it.
Mm-hmm.
Give me a call.
We kind of look at what thestructure is and we remake it
into something that is a littlebit more beautiful to look at,
but also safe for the plant aswell.
(04:22):
Oh, I didn't even think aboutthat.
Yeah.
'cause there's a lot of olderplants that people don't know
what to do with later down theline.
Yeah.
And when people, I think a bigthing is that when people get
into house plants, they don'trealize, whoa, this thing lives
for a long time, possiblyforever.
Mm-hmm.
So I help out mature plants bykind of making them look.
Aesthetically beautiful.
(04:43):
there are many beautiful thingsthat you could do.
Many beautiful things.
That's really cool.
I didn't know that.
I didn't know about plantstyling.
Of course.
I the doctoring totally.
I've killed unfortunately, agood handful of plants in my
life.
'cause it's one of those thingswhere I, so many people wanna be
plant gays.
Lots of us wanna be plant gays.
But the aesthetic of being aplant gay is completely
(05:06):
different than the reality ofbeing a plant gay, where you
have to really know, you know,what direction your window is
facing.
You know, what plants need thisand when, and like, where can I
put this one where I had noidea.
Still kind of don't, I'm gonnahit you up for some classes or
something.
Oh yeah.
Always, always.
Do you offer classes?
I, I would love to start doingworkshops.
Mm-hmm.
(05:26):
I'm in talks of some differentbusinesses around the area that
would love to host me.
I just have to, to write out thelesson plan.
So you'll definitely be invited.
You all are invited.
Yes.
Yes.
Welcome.
No, that's exciting.
you've always been super, superknowledgeable and I'm so happy
that you're getting theopportunity to share that
knowledge with the wider cityarea.
(05:48):
That's great.
That's great.
I, I feel that New York City issuch a specific environment.
So when you look up.
Plant care, plant tips on justGoogle or the internet.
You're gonna get so manydifferent opinions from people.
But the thing is, is that notall of those opinions are gonna
be correct.
Mm-hmm.
You need to have someone whounderstands what it's like to
(06:10):
live in New York City, to be ina really, really crowded
apartment, ac heating rods, thattype of environment.
Mm-hmm.
And honestly, New York Cityplants are the strongest plants.
Oh, are they?
Because we have to endureeverything.
That's true.
You know what I mean?
Like they, they literally aretorched like this past week.
But then also you have to dealwith air conditioners blasting
(06:31):
on them.
Mm-hmm.
We have winter, we have longwinters.
Tight spaces, windows that couldpossibly be block blocked by
another building.
So you talk to a gardener whoperhaps lives in California.
Much more open space, much moresunlight, more temperate.
Versus here where things changeand when things change, they
fluctuate as well, but alsoextreme.
(06:52):
But that honestly yields some ofthe strongest plants.
That's good to know.
Yeah.
What doesn't kill you?
Make you stronger it sounds likeyou're the hero that New York
needs for their plants.
So I do.
Um, yeah.
I always like imagining myselfas a little bit of a superhero.
I agree.
Well, that's kind of how Ienvision you I feel like we need
to, uh, install like a plantsignal in this city just to like
(07:13):
shoot into the sky.
I would love that.
Would it be a picture plant?
What would it be?
Oh, would it be.
I think it would be, oh, apicture.
I mean, a picture plant would befunny, but people would probably
think it's a dick dick.
That's true.
Oh goodness.
Well,'cause I know you havepicture plants, right?
I do have picture plants, carverplants were one of my favorites.
Same.
The killer plants, of course.
Yes.
(07:33):
Carnivorous plants are so horroricon coated.
They are, they are.
So tell me, what do you loveabout carnivores Plants?
I love carnivores plants becausethere's a, a eerie ear beauty to
them at the same time.
So there's like this kind of, Ifeel that carnivorous plants are
very, very romantic in a way.
(07:55):
there's something almost.
Erotic about them?
Yeah.
I'cause they, yeah,'cause likehow they move, how they lure
their prey.
I was gonna say they're veryseductive.
Yeah.
Yeah.
They're very like, come overhere.
Like even like even humans, weare entranced by them.
Like I, when you see a Venus flytrapps mouth, you want to look
in there, you want to poke it,but you never wanna do that with
(08:17):
any other plant.
But somehow out with that plantyou want to do it to.
Yeah.
In a picture plant, you want tolook inside of that picture,
what's going on in there?
I do.
So even to uh uh, pray that it'stoo big for the plant to eat,
even we are lured into them.
Mm-hmm.
And I think that's kind of, kindof beautiful and kind of sexy in
a way.
I agree.
Mm-hmm.
(08:37):
I have always been enamored ofcarnivores plants.
I just find them so fascinating.
I.
In my mind it's like, oh, thetables have turned now the
plants eating.
Yeah, yeah.
You know, like kind of jokes onyou.
But I remember as a kid, like Icouldn't wrap my mind around a,
a salad eating of human is how Ithought about it when I was a
kid.
Yeah.
(08:58):
Like the salads eating me.
Oh, but fun fact, most riskplants are non-toxic.
Really?
Yeah.
So like you can eat one.
You can eat one and be perfectlyfine.
Isn't that funny?
I don't know if I'd want tothough.
I don't think I've ever eatenone.
Yeah.
I don't like eating my kids.
I was gonna say, So you have apicture Plant, Venus, fly Traps.
Pitcher, plant, Venus flytrap.
(09:19):
I have Sundus.
They have like little tentacles.
Yeah.
And they have like littlestickies on the 10 and then they
wrap up their prey like a littlefruit rollup.
Oh, fruit rollup or fruit by thefoot.
Fruit butter.
Okay.
Yes.
That's so funny.
I have butter wart.
Which one?
What, what are those butterwarts kind of look like?
Your traditional succulents,like the eve rosette,
(09:40):
succulents.
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
But instead of like a smoothleaf, it's a sticky leaf.
So it's like a, a sticky trap.
Oh.
Oh, that's so cool.
I might have you come backoutside of franchise Friday and
just talk about carnivorousplants.
Oh.
So we might do that.
Let me know everybody if youwant that.
Or I might just do it for me.
That might just be like my ownlittle gift and we just dissect
(10:01):
the plants together.
Yes.
So, I am curious about,'causeyou talked about plant styling
and I view you as a creativeperson.
I mean, especially now with, youknow, you're running your
business, you're managing socialmedia mm-hmm.
So what's your creative processlike?
for my content, for my videos, Ialways like to be number one
educational.
(10:22):
I want people to be able to takeaway.
One, two or three tips from eachvideo.
Mm.
So even though things arepackaged up in a very humorous
and sparkly a DHD style mm-hmm.
At the end of the video, I stillwant you to be able to be like,
oh, I know how to take care of asnake plant now.
Mm-hmm.
I know how to, prune back thisplant.
(10:44):
I know.
How to take care of acarnivorous plant.
Mm-hmm.
I love people taking awayinformation mm-hmm.
In a fun way.
So first and foremost, educationall the way.
But I like things that are veryquick.
Mm.
Snappy, funny.
I think that's the best way forpeople to learn is when
something comes out quickly,catches your attention, but also
(11:05):
you're able to retain knowledgeat the same time.
Yeah.
And it takes a special skill tobe able to do that.
'cause not everybody is able tomaster brevity in that way.
It takes that, yeah.
It takes a lot of, a lot oftakes.
A lot of people don't see, likewhen they, when they watch my
videos, they're like, oh my God,this seems so like, fun and
flowy.
But not a lot of people see whathappens behind the scenes., Dirt
(11:25):
flying everywhere.
Pots knocking over wigs.
Flying off.
Oh, okay.
Well let's talk about that youdid something that was really
fun.
I think it was yesterday ormaybe the day before you did the
top three gayest plants.
So tell me about that video,because like, where did the
inspiration come from?
The idea for coming up withgayest plants mm-hmm.
(11:47):
Was, I know that a lot of myfriends have sent me videos of
like, oh, this person says like,this plant is gay, this plant is
this, and I'm watching it, andI'm just like, oh, it's not,
it's not hitting, it's nothitting.
I mean, like, yeah, thisflower's a lesbian, but why?
Mm-hmm.
Or like, you know, these arebisexual.
I, I, I, I appreciated the idea,but I wanted people to go a
(12:10):
little further.
and I think when I used to workat the plant store, we also had
discussions of what, what's agay plant?
What's a lesbian plant?
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
And so it just be kind of likethis inside joke So it was a, a
perfect storm, and I said, okay,I think it's time for me to make
my top three gaze plants.
So my top three gaze plants,number one is a Rex Pogonia.
(12:31):
It's like really, really like,like frilly and floy and frill
and floy.
Huge leaves, spiraling leaves.
Tons of color.
Really, really big.
Like they're grown for size.
and there, so she's a sizequeen.
She's a size queen.
She's a size queen.
Everybody, but also a totalthumb.
Okay.
Listen, we love it.
I love it.
I love vert the bitches.
Yeah.
And so, and a deeper dive too,is that the Rex Pogonia names?
(12:55):
Gay.
Really?
So for instance, you have,Jurassic Watermelon, Rex Pogonia
Persian Swirl, raspberrySherbert, double El Paso Fire
Flush.
Dule, like, wait, is that reallya thing?
Yes.
Like if you look up, these arelike drag queen names.
They're drag queen names.
Like if you look up the, thevarieties of Rex boas, all of
(13:17):
them gay.
That's great to know.
You know, a gay man was involvedwith the naming process.
Perfect.
So that's number one.
That's number one.
And number two.
Number two I would say is avariated snake plant.
Okay.
So you think you're getting likea regular snake plant Uhhuh, but
no, no, no, no, no.
Looks can be deceiving.
(13:38):
Ooh.
This one actually requires alittle bit more light than your
usual snake plant.
Okay.
So it actually is more highermaintenance.
Oh, she's a queen.
She's, yeah, she's a queen.
Okay.
So, you know, like I, I feellike whenever you're like on
grinder, you, you soap, likehey, you like, but then right
when they, they come over, theyfucking drop their pants.
And put their bath butts in theair.
(13:59):
Yep.
Oh my gosh.
Yeah.
Gabe, I feel that Okay.
Yeah.
So we we're talking like thebait and switch.
Yeah.
Like the, the DL trade, that lowkey wants you to put it up
there.
Exactly.
Exactly.
Okay.
So that is the variegated snakeplant.
Okay.
And then my third is Venus TieTrapp.
I'm here for it.
Obvious reasons.
Mm-hmm.
But the biggest reason is thatthere's a musical written about
(14:22):
the Venus Fly Trap, So thisplant loves musicals.
Okay.
Gay gay's.
Gay.
Good.
Good, good, good.
Gay, gay.
Well, thank you for sharing.
I loved that video.
It was so much fun.
It was, you're right.
It was so sparkly and frenetic.
And I mean that in the bestpossible way, everybody.
So we talked about what's the,what the gayest plants are.
Mm-hmm.
I'm curious to know which plantsare the most horrifying in real
(14:45):
life.
Oh, one would think carnivorousplants, right?
Carnivore, carnivorous plants,of course traditionally.
Mm-hmm.
You think are very, veryhorrifying.
first thing that comes to mindabout the idea of horror is what
I see when I doctor people'splants.
Oh.
So it's not actually the plantthat's horrifying.
(15:06):
It's what people do to theplant.
That's horrifying.
Okay.
That's where my mind goes when Ithink of horrifying plants.
Okay.
So, well, let's talk, so when Ithink of a horrifying plant, I
think of the first image thatcomes to my mind.
Is a mushy, rotten snake plantover watered and not like over.
(15:29):
Yeah.
Drained properly.
And the thing is, is that if youever experienced a over watered
snake plant and one that'srotting off, number one, the
stench is horrible.
Oh.
It smells like rot.
And when you touch the leaves,literally they melt off in your
hands and they become allstringy and mushy.
That's, it's disgusting.
It's just like when you leaveall of your vegetables in the
(15:50):
good intentions drawer in yourfridge and you forget about'em
for like three weeks.
That's the kind of texture,that's the kind of stuff, but
it's not even cold.
It's warm.
Ew.
Yucky.
Okay.
That is pretty horrifying.
It's pretty horrifying.
This is the body horror part ofthe, this is body horror.
This is Gore.
This is Cronenberg, this isGore.
Oh yeah.
I think a rotted snake plantOkay.
(16:10):
Close mention is also any plantthat is infested with a kind of
pest.
Oh yeah.
So One example was, I was, uh, Iwas doctoring this really,
really old cactus in industrycity.
Beautiful, beautiful office,beautiful room.
And they're just like, wassomething's wrong with our
cactus?
We just don't know what's wrongwith it.
So I go over to the cactus.
(16:32):
I'm like, wow, what a beautifulghost cactus.
Mm-hmm.
He's like, yeah, yeah.
I was like this cool, Whitepowder to it.
It's really nice and likecreepy.
We love it.
Yeah.
I'm like, yeah, yeah.
I've never seen one this bigbefore.
I take a closer look though.
That's not, that's not a shadeof white.
It's scale.
Scale is a pest that kind offorms this hard, Shelly outside
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Uhhuh.
But this scale, instead of beingtraditional brown or a dark
color, it was translucent.
So I looked, it literally, thiswhole thing was covered in this
translucent skin.
Wild.
And it was all pests.
Like literally the pests havecreated an exoskeleton outside
of this cactus.
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And the only way I could getthat scale off is with a
screwdriver.
And I peeled off one like sliveruhhuh of it off.
And we saw the true color of thecactus.
It's green underneath.
Disgusting.
That's, that's for some reasonhearing that, I just imagine it
like, on my skin and Iimmediately get the
heebie-jeebies, I think of likethe flesh eating bacteria.
(17:36):
Like, oh my God.
Like, like in like parasitickinda shit.
Whoa, whoa.
Okay.
Yeah.
That's, that's, that'shorrifying.
We need to change.
What do I do for a living?
Horrifying.
What you do for a living, nor I,all right.
I'm gonna change the subjectbefore I get disgusted.
let's talk, we're gonna talk alittle bit about queerness.
'cause it is pride, everybody.
Mm.
What queer stereotype do youmost embody?
Oh, I'm really extra aboutthings.
(17:58):
Yes.
I realized, I realized that justthinking about like, okay, what
is, what is just something youdo all the time.
I go the extra mile mm-hmm.
To do the most ridiculousthings.
Fair.
So, for instance, when Istretch, it's not.
It's ah, you know what I mean?
(18:18):
When I sit, it's not justsitting, it's leaning.
It's a little pose.
Okay.
There's a flo to it.
There's like a, how do I makethis more fabulous, even if I'm
not speaking?
I love that.
I just have to be a little, Ilove that.
Just a little extra.
Putting a little extra sugar onit.
Just a little dusting a littlebit, just a little dusting.
I love doing that, in asituation, like at the gym when
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I'm not even talking, but likehow I put back a weight, I love
that.
I just live, live, I live andlove doing little extra things.
Just a little bit more.
Yeah.
It's like, yes.
I will take an extra ketchuppacket as you, as you should.
Yeah.
Oh.
so we, you're a horror girly.
Yes, yes.
Yes.
When did you get into horror?
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So, I grew up with horrormovies.
Okay.
Meaning that my parents lovedhorror movies.
So my moms used to watch TheExorcist.
Poltergeist.
creep show was also, I fuckinglove creep show.
Oh.
Was also on t uh, on the TVgrowing up.
Mm-hmm.
So I was always surrounded bythe horror genre.
But it wasn't until the ninetieswhen I actively chose Yes.
(19:29):
Everybody, this is the contentI'm here for.
Do it Again.
Um, it wasn't until the ninetiesthat I actively chose to watch a
horror movie.
Okay.
And my first movie of choice wasScream.
Oh, what a, what A movie to comeoutta the gate choosing Ugh.
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I remember going to the movietheater mm-hmm.
At my mall.
Mm-hmm.
When the malls used to behappening.
Oh gosh.
Yeah.
I, I miss'em all.
Little side note.
Yeah.
I miss'em all.
But yeah.
So you went to the mall, yousaw, went to the mall, Uhhuh
went to the movie theater there,saw Scream, and I was like, this
is amazing.
But I was too young tounderstand like, what it
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represents.
I was like, oh my God, why am Iso into this?
Mm-hmm.
Um, so that was kind of my, uh,my gateway horror.
That's on that.
That's a good one.
Yeah.
Even if you don't understandthe, the context, you know, or
the landscape that that moviewas released in and how it
breathed so much fresh air intothe horror genre mm-hmm.
(20:32):
Outside of its impact.
It's such a good movie.
It's How old were you when youwatched it?
like 1996?
96 I think.
Yeah.
I 10.
I was like eight or nine when wefirst watched it.
We first watched it at home.
We were a blockbuster house.
Oh yeah.
Wait, how did I get in there?
Because it was rated at R,right?
Yeah.
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Did anybody take you?
No, my parents dropped me off.
They were like, here you go.
Did you maybe just like theclassic movie hop thing maybe?
Yeah.
Oh no.
I used to do shit like that.
I love that shit.
Anyway.
When did horror start feelingqueer to you?
I think maybe recently.
Really?
Yeah.
Okay.
Let's talk because I'm a littlebit of a.
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I don't really think aboutthings.
I think I was having thisdiscussion with one of my
friends, like Richard, you areso brilliant with plants.
Mm-hmm.
Like body and horticulture, buteverything else, you're kind of
like, you're a little bit of aditz.
I think that's the gaystereotype that we embody.
Wait, whatcha talking about?
I'm really smart.
Oh, I'm so smart.
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You are smart.
So smart.
Listen, you can be smart and notuse it.
True So recently is when itRecently, yeah.
Okay.
I think actually through youprobably because you were like,
well like, oh this, this is soqueer.
I'm like, oh yeah, yeah, I knewthat.
Mm-hmm.
But like when I went home afterthe coffee, I was like, wait a
minute, did I understand that orjust did I just agree to
something?
No, that's so funny.
So I'm so I'm still figuring itout.
(21:54):
Yeah.
Oh no.
And this is a great place tofigure that out too.
'cause we're just gonna be.
Obviously I'm gonna be throwingshit out there.
Please do.
By all means.
Yeah.
I wish to be educated.
Yes.
And your opinions of course, arewelcome as well.
If there's anything that you,oh, you'll be hearing it.
You'll be hearing it, of course.
Whether you like it or not, thismic is on.
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Now you grew up watching horror.
Was there one that scared youthe most as a kid?
Ooh, I think the one that scaredme the most was probably Child's
play.
Mm-hmm.
Oh, specifically this, I thinkit's Child Child's Play two.
I think you have to, you have toremind me.
(22:34):
'cause Tell me.
Tell me what scared you aboutit.
It's still okay.
It's when they were in the ToyFactory.
Two.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And they start putting likeplastic things into Chucky.
Oh, so good.
And then like he fills up withand then there's the conveyor
belt and he comes out allmutated and shit.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That freaked me out as a kid.
Child's Play two is my favoritechild's play movie.
I haven't released the Cult ofChucky episode yet.
(22:55):
Mm.
But we do like our final wrap upon the child's play series.
And if memory serves correctly,'cause I'm a Gemini, my opinion
changes with the wind, but I'mpretty sure at the time I said
that child's play two is myfavorite one.
Yeah.
It's so good.
Oh, I'm a Virgo.
You're a Virgo.
Virgo.
Oh yeah.
We're both mutable signs.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I fuck with Virgos.
Oh yes.
I love a Virgo.
(23:15):
So.
Wait, Virgo and then my risingis Leo.
Okay.
I'll forgive you.
I'll forgive you.
And my moon is in Leo too.
Oh no.
everybody.
I'm sorry.
We're gonna have to find a newco-host.
I shoved out the window.
No, here's the thing.
Here's the thing.
I, I do, I love Leo's.
The problem is there's, there'sa handful of Leos out there that
(23:37):
don't like me.
I'm sorry.
It's just the tea That's somean.
It's Well, do you want me totalk to'em?
No, no, no.
Please don't.
I Do you want me to saysomething?
They're gone.
It's it, they're gone.
It's fine.
No, I think what it is isthere's just, there's certain
Leos out there that hate thefact that I effortlessly pull
attention and Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
That's kind of what it is.
That's the tease.
They don't like that.
(23:58):
So, Listen.
And I fuck with fire signs.
It's fine.
Yeah, yeah, it's fine.
I just.
I have like post Leo traumaticstress.
I mean, understandably so.
Mm-hmm.
Understandably so.
Okay.
But I think that you the's Okay.
The, the Virgo.
Honestly, the Virgo is whatsaves me.
It really is.
Because the thing is, is thatlike Leos are all like
showboating and shit, and like,no, no, no.
(24:18):
But a Virgo a Virgo is athinker.
So I Didn't you just say thatyou don't think that, I don't
know why you're coming after.
Why are you coming after this?
Shut it down.
Shut it down.
Shut it down.
Shut it down.
I know what you didn't do lastsummer.
I did too much.
I really didn't do much.
I would not be a good characterin this.
(24:39):
Oh, very nice.
Oh, I know you did.
Actually, I didn't do anything.
It's like, you, you know, youknow what I did last summer?
I don't even know what I didyesterday.
So thank you.
Yeah, thank you.
Do you wanna tell me?
Please tell me.
Please tell me.
Oh, no, it's okay.
We Virgo.
It's all forgiven.
What horror trope do youabsolutely live for?
Like, what's your favorite tropein horror movies?
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A define trope.
She's a thinker.
Everybody.
She's a thinker.
A trope is something, oh my God.
Realize that's stupid.
No, no, no.
This is great.
No, I'm being, but I'm beinghonest.
No, it's fair.
A trope is just like somethingthat you see a lot.
not necessarily cliche, butit's, it's a type of occurrence
(25:25):
that happens in horror movies,for example.
You will have sex and then youwill die.
Ah, okay.
You know, uh, if you smoke weed,you die.
It's just something that you,that's very formulaic.
You see it a lot in horrormovies.
Okay.
You know, um, what are someother ones?
Why am I drawing a blank rightnow?
Uh, well, the Final Girl.
The finer girl, like the finergirl in itself is kind of a
(25:47):
trope.
the slasher having, a phallicweapon.
Oh.
Somebody going in, oh, runningupstairs instead of going out
the door, splitting up.
You know, those are, those aretropes.
Okay, okay.
You know?
And you also think of likecharacter types.
Like you have your, your stonercharacter.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Again, you have the final girl,you have the shitty boyfriend,
things like that.
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My favorite trope is probablythe bad girl.
The Bad girl.
I love a good, bad girl.
Oh yeah.
Oh yeah.
We love a bad girl.
She's, she's always like the onethat's always paired up with the
innocent one or the virgin.
Mm-hmm.
And she's just like the badass,she's like the bad influence.
Love the bad girls.
I think of my favorite bad girl.
This is horror.
It's not slasher, but myfavorite bad girl is Faith from
(26:29):
Buffy the Vampire Slayer.
Oh, yes.
Yes.
I'm rewatch, I'm doing a Buffyrewatch right now, everybody,
which I'm super happy.
'cause SMG is in this movie thatwe're talking about.
She is.
Oh, wait.
Oh, oh, I'm sorry.
No, no, no.
She has no, she has no, she,sorry.
I like I fast, I fast forwarded.
(26:50):
Oh my God.
So fucking funny.
Uh, So I'm on se I just finishedseason three, so Faith is Fresh
on my mind.
Faith is my favorite characterin that whole franchise.
Uh, that whole, the series.
I love Faith.
I mean like, uh, of course Ilove Buffy.
Yeah.
Oh yeah.
Everyone loves Buffy.
Everyone loves Buffy.
I and Willow too.
I love Willow.
I love Willow.
Willow.
Yeah.
Who would be my favorite though?
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I kind of like Giles.
Giles is great.
They're all great.
Yeah.
They're actually all except forXander, if you stand Xander.
Oh, no, no, no.
That's cool.
Yeah, we, he's like a, JossWhedon has admitted himself.
Xander is a self insert and itshows.
Yeah.
Although I did think he was kindof cute, like I did too,
specifically in, It was atseason two.
(27:31):
It was when he joined theswimming team episode, the swim
team.
Oh my God.
How did you know what too?
Because same.
I was like, oh, what a loser.
And then right when he joinedthe, I was like, actually, hmm.
Yeah, it's the episode's calledGo Fish.
It's the episode before the, thetwo part season finale think's
like episode 20.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We, we get a nice little slow moshot of him in the Speedo.
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I get it.
I was like, ah, it's Xander.
And in the nineties, theobjectification of males like
that wasn't that common.
So I get it.
I 100% get it.
I'm curious to know how I'm,this is gassy.
Lemme have some of that.
I feel like I need some now Iknow I'm not this bel.
I don't know why you just bringit outta me.
(28:15):
It's the gas.
Yes.
I bring gas outta people.
I need to get on board with you.
Ugh.
There we go.
Not as good as yours.
Yours is deeper.
It is cute.
Thank you.
Yeah, I'm just, keep it cute.
I'm just a woman.
Keep I'm just a dainty littlewoman.
do you have a guilty pleasurehorror movie?
Mm-hmm.
Like a horror movie that youenjoy that other people don't or
(28:37):
that you feel like you shouldn'tenjoy?
I really liked Megan.
Is that considered a horrormovie?
Uh, it is considered a horrormovie.
I don't think that's a guiltypleasure though.
But that's fine.
Everyone like it?
Yeah.
Everyone, yeah.
Megan's Cty.
I'm trying to think like, what'ssomething that no one likes?
I think of things like Evil Bongor, um, oh, okay.
Okay.
You've opened the door.
Yeah.
Okay, great.
there's a movie called Santa'sSleigh.
(28:59):
I haven't.
Have I seen it?
It's really bad.
Okay.
I think Chris Catan is, is init.
Okay.
It's an all star opening castUhhuh.
Oh, is that the one with fuckingfriend?
The nanny?
Yes.
Yeah.
Yeah.
When she's like Santa.
Yes.
I think that's the one.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I haven't seen it, but I'veheard about it.
It's pretty bad love.
And like, there's a claymationlike part of the movie, like
it's really bad.
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One of the most ridiculoustwists is that Santa Claus can
like throw fireballs out of hismouth.
It was, it was really weird.
the protagonists were likerunning away from Santa.
Like, ha ha, get, take thatSanta and Santa goes.
Sorry about, that's wild.
That is wild.
(29:40):
I do have to see that movie.
It's really bad.
I will say though, I'm a slutfor Claymation.
I love claymation.
Like stop motion claymation,that kind of stuff.
It's a, it's an art form.
If they throw it into a movie,it doesn't matter how good or
bad it is.
I'm gonna, I'm gonna appreciatethe fuck out of it, everybody.
I'm gonna appreciate the fuckout of that.
I'm gonna, I have to wait.
I refuse to watch any kind ofChristmas or holiday horror
until the holiday until Yes,yes, yes.
(30:01):
So we're gonna put a pin inthat.
Everybody, everybody listeningat home and watching at home.
Put a pin in that we're allgonna watch Santa Slay this
season.
And when you hate it, go aheadand uh, shoot Richard a dm.
I'm gonna do a burp count.
I'm gonna do a burp counteverybody.
(30:22):
I'm not even kidding.
whatever burps, make it into theedit.
at the end of our seasontogether, I'm going to let you
know how many times you burpedinto my microphone.
All right, everybody.
Cha, challenge, accept,challenge, acceptance, challenge
accepted.
I've already lost count.
Editing.
Cry Baby Future.
Cry baby out there.
Have fun with that.
(30:42):
You committed to it on camera.
Is there a horror movie that is.
Critically acclaimed one that isgenerally said to be good that
you don't like.
Yes.
Yes.
Okay.
Um, Nosferatu, you didn't likeNosferatu?
No, that was kind of boring.
Okay.
That's fair.
You don't strike me as a periodgirly though.
No, no, no.
Definitely not.
I'm like, why does, why does thequality look so bad?
(31:04):
Eggers is very much about like,transporting you back to a
historically accurate piece oftime.
Mm.
So I get it.
The dialogue can be kind of dry,but you didn't like how horny it
was.
I didn.
I You didn't like, you didn'tlike the Nosferatu dong just
being slung all over the place.
I just, I literally was cleaningmy kitchen while watching it.
Okay.
Yeah.
I was, listen, listen, thejudgment, I'm not judging you.
(31:28):
I get it.
Okay.
Here.
No, no, no.
I get it.
Because when I first watched it,I.
I wasn't sure.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I wasn't sure if I liked it ornot, you know?
I had to sit with it and then Iwent back and watched it again
and I'm like, okay.
Like, it was good.
Mm-hmm.
It's not as good as everybodysaid it was, but like, I liked
it.
Yeah.
I fucking love thecinematography in it, I think.
Oh, okay.
Oh, you're coming from like afilm perspective.
Yeah.
(31:49):
I can get the story kind of gigand, you know, some of the
acting wasn't the best.
Yeah.
So no judgment here.
It's hard to get me like towatch a movie though.
Like I will get, I wonder why Iwill get distracted.
I'll get distracted reallyeasily.
Yes.
I can tell I'm reallydistracted.
(32:10):
Like if something doesn't hookme in within like 30 seconds,
I'm like, ah, I have to changethis.
Okay.
Fair.
Yeah.
So everybody, if you ever wantto get Rich's attention, you got
30 seconds to do it.
You got 30 seconds.
All right.
I always feel bad on like firstdates with guys.
Oh gosh.
I'm like, don't, don't ever feelbad about a first date with a
guy.
I never feel bad on a first dateever.
(32:33):
First off, I'm just gonna behonest.
It's impossible to get me on afirst date.
Really?
Yeah.
I just, I dunno how to explainit without sounding like a
bitch, but it's just, I have somuch going on in my life right
now.
Yeah.
So much that I'm working on.
You know, I have a wonderfulgroup of friends and I have such
a rich number of platonic,enriching relationships that I
(32:57):
don't find myself.
Actively searching for aromantic partner.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You know, and that's not to saythat I don't want one, like I'm
not a romantic.
I very much am into it, but Ijust, it it, I need a very
special kind of person to dothat.
Yeah.
And you got a lot, you got allon your plate right now.
I have so much on my plate.
She doesn't have time.
But some tea.
One of my favorite things, Ifirmly believe that environment
(33:20):
is like crucial to things,right?
Yes.
Our bodies rememberenvironments.
Mm-hmm.
So I have a first date coffeeshop and I have a breakup coffee
shop.
Oh yeah.
I haven't been there in aminute, but they were both in
Williamsburg where I used towork.
Yeah.
I had the coffee shop that, notone that I loved too much, but
it was one that was cute that Ienjoyed being in.
(33:41):
That was my first day coffeeshop.
Mm.
And then the coffee shop that Iabsolutely hated.
I thought it was trash,everybody.
I was like, okay, this is whereI'm gonna break up with people.
So this poor barista is probablynew.
Anytime I came in there with aguy that all something's
happening, someone's gonna becrying.
So, and people say that, that'slike crazy behavior.
I don't think so.
Do you think it, I don't thinkthat's crazy at all.
I don't think it's crazybehavior at all.
(34:03):
Not at all.
I've seen a lot crazier on thestreets here.
Thank you.
Alright, my final question foryou, before we do our rapid fire
shit, final question.
Final question.
What do you love the most abouthorror?
I like horror movies because itgives young actresses a chance
to, to be the the new girl.
a lot of, horror movies.
(34:23):
There's always a new talent, anew actress to be, to be shown
off.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
So I think it's a great, a greatmovie to highlight really,
really strong female actors.
No, I, I think that's a greatanswer.
Yeah.
I especially like, because it'snever about the guy.
Let's be honest.
Horror movies are always aboutthe girl.
Yes.
Yes they are.
'Cause they're more interesting.
(34:44):
Way more interesting.
Way more interesting.
And we wanna see them fuckingkick ass too.
Absolutely.
Feminism, I was, I would suggestCarol Clover, she's an academic
that talks about the final girland everything, but you don't
like to think I was, yeah.
You lost me.
Yes.
All right, Richard, you havegraduated from the hard
(35:05):
questions.
Now we're gonna get to our rapidfire interview questions.
Oh no.
I do this with every personthat's new on my show.
Just a bunch of questions.
Don't think about them, whichshouldn't be hard for you.
Oh, it should be easy.
Okay.
I'm scared.
Whatever falls out of your mouthis what it is.
First most important question,are we feeling hydrated today?
(35:26):
We could be more.
We could be more.
Oh God.
We just get a good swing.
There's gonna be about two and ahalf minutes before we hit a
burp.
Everybody, maybe less to answerthe first rapid Yes.
Yes.
You're feeling hydrated.
I'm wonderful.
Even though you're hungover.
I, oh yeah.
No, I'm hydrated.
Good for you.
I'm hydrated.
Good for you.
What's your go-to breakfast?
None.
I, you know what?
(35:47):
No, no, no, no, no.
I skip breakfast too.
I don't, I don't, the firstthing in my mind in the morning
is not what I'm going to eat.
Mm-hmm.
It's what I'm going to eat likelater.
Like later.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I, I like skipping breakfast aswell.
Everybody, I work out fasted.
All that stuff is way better.
Yeah.
I don't like, that's like heavy.
Like I wanna Exactly.
I like, I like my coffee, I likemy caffeine.
Mm-hmm.
That's my go-to breakfast.
(36:07):
That's my, yeah.
That's my go-to breakfast.
Yes.
Yes.
Okay.
Perfect.
Coffee.
Coffee.
Wonderful.
Do you have a go-to movie snack?
None.
None.
None.
None.
You just, I want to be dedicatedto the movie.
Like literally don't give mepopcorn.
I don't need water.
I don't need candy.
It's just my hands like this onchair.
All of your senses.
Okay.
'cause if I'm locked in, I'mlocked in.
(36:28):
I don't want any distractions.
Okay.
Fair, fair enough.
Would you rather watch a slasheror a supernatural movie?
Oh, supernatural.
Supernatural.
Super supernatural.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Do you prefer a movie that'smore of a slow burn or one that
has lots of jump scares?
Jump scares, of course.
Absolutely matches your energy.
It was like slow burn.
Now, do you prefer, trashy cultclassics?
Trash or pristi?
(36:52):
This is rapid.
Listen, I get it trashy as well.
Do you have a horror movie, ick.
Just something that you see in ahorror movie that immediately
you're just like, I fucking hatethat tokens to Oh, yeah.
Im just like, come on.
Yeah.
Like, I just, ugh.
Thankfully we're kind of movingaway from tokens sometimes.
Who's an underrated final girl?
Aren't they all kind of likeoverrated?
(37:14):
It depends.
I feel like there's some outthere that are kind of
underrated, that are overlooked.
Because you, you have your bighitters, right?
Like you have Sidney Prescott.
Yeah, yeah.
And Lori Strode and NancyThompson.
But who would be, yeah, whowould be on your, but people
think, you know, I think aboutKirsti Cotton from Hellraiser.
Nobody really thinks about her.
Oh.
You know?
Yeah.
Grace from Reddy or not ispretty wildly loved as a, as a
final girl.
But yeah, just like maybe inthose like forgotten horror
(37:36):
movies, you know, the ones thataren't like the big ones.
The big ones, yeah.
how about the Alien from Alien?
The, the Alien is the finalgirl.
Yeah.
Is the final girl.
Well, she's like a mom, but sheis, she's the killer.
But from whose perspective here,that's true.
(37:57):
That's a good point.
From whose perspective?
Who's perspective.
You know what?
I'll accept it.
The Alien queen is the ultimatefinal girl.
Although I don't think she dies,doesn't she?
Next question.
Okay.
All right.
So you are being chased by akiller.
Do you run upstairs or do yougrab a knife and fight?
Grab a knife and fight?
Of course you do.
Would you survive a horrormovie?
No.
(38:17):
No, I don't think so either.
Would you ever have sex in acemetery?
Yeah, of course.
Absolutely.
Anybody who's on this programbetter have sex in a cemetery.
That's actually gonna be myscreening from now on.
This isn't a, this isn't a showfor babies.
No, baby.
No.
Ah, which horror villain couldget it?
Oh, what's his name?
(38:38):
Jigsaw.
You would have sex with Jigsaw,John Kramer.
Mr.
Self-Righteous, or are youtalking about the puppet?
No, I, I feel like you feel likehe, he makes situations.
Oh, you want the kink?
Yeah.
He's like, he's kink.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's what, that's why I wantto do it.
Think about all the creativeways he could tie you to the
bed, but also he could getsomeone else.
(38:58):
'cause he loves like playingwith people too.
Oh, that's true.
Oh, so you want a third?
Oh yeah.
Oh yeah.
We saw you from across the barand we liked your vibe.
Get in the cage.
It's the ideas.
That's great.
I, I'm attracted to his brain.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
Was not expecting that.
Everybody, I really like peoplefor their minds.
(39:22):
So because I don't have, becauseI don't have That's true.
You do need a thinker.
Yeah.
To balance you out.
Which horror movie villain doyou think would be the worst
hookup?
By Freddy.
Really?
Yeah.
I don't really disagree withyou, but I'm curious to know
why.
He's like scabby and then hecomes back and like your
nightmares and stuff?
Mm-hmm.
I don't, I don't want thataround me.
(39:42):
Oh yeah.
There's no escaping that ex's?
No.
Like he's would always comebacks.
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
Okay.
Fair enough.
What horror item would you usein bed?
probably a good old knife.
A good old, some knife play.
Okay.
Nice.
All right.
Just in three words, what's yourvillain origin story?
Plants pushed.
Reemergence.
(40:08):
I'm gonna have to work reallyhard to decode that.
Everybody to decode that myself.
Plants pushed reemergence.
Okay.
Yeah.
Okay.
It's the three words.
Three words.
I followed the directionsaccepted.
Thank you.
So you're a killer.
Oh, yes.
What's your iconic look?
I think I would do, I think a, anight, a good jumpsuit.
Mm-hmm.
Kind of like a Ghostbusters typething.
(40:28):
Okay.
I feel like it would be like aneighties, like Okay.
Kind of vibe.
I would have a tool belt.
And then just really, reallyloud boots.
Loud boots.
I want you, he hearing likeclunk, clunk, clunk, clunk,
clunk, clunk.
Okay.
And somehow you're running.
I am still walking.
Slowly.
Yeah.
But you got the power of, ofplants pushed and reemergence
(40:49):
behind you, whatever that means.
Oh yeah.
Yeah, exactly.
What's your weapon?
My hands.
Okay.
Alright.
You like it?
Intimate.
You like having direct contactwith your victims.
Okay.
What's your tagline?
Photosynthesize this.
Fuck you.
(41:10):
This is so this, I know this.
I'm loving this.
Everybody, I'm, I'm laughing.
I'm not laughing with you.
I'm laughing at you.
Yes.
You should laugh at me.
Oh gosh.
Okay.
Next question.
What's your most embarrassingmoment?
My most embarrassing moment wasin third grade Mrs.
Kennedy's class.
(41:30):
I was wearing a, a green PLAshirt.
With, uh, green jeans.
And matching like green socksand green sneakers.
Like, it was just like a all,all green.
I was really into this outfit.
But I really needed to go to thebathroom.
Oh, no.
And I said, Hey, Mrs.
Kennedy Uhhuh, can I use therestroom?
And she is like, mm.
I can't use the rest.
Because back, back in the oldendays, you couldn't, like, you
(41:52):
had to, did they still do that?
You had to ask permission.
You had to get the hall passedand everything.
Yeah.
I don't know.
That's like, it's mark bullshit.
It's kind of weird, like, nowthat I think about it, I'm like,
that's cruel.
You shouldn't do that.
Yeah.
Like, I needed to really pee.
It's not like I'm sneaking out.
Exactly.
Yeah.
History class was boring.
are you trying to give childrenUTIs?
Ms.
Kennedy?
Mrs.
Kennedy?
Photosynthesize.
(42:14):
How old was I?
What grade was it?
Third grade, eight.
Third grade?
Yes, yes.
So 8-year-old Richard needs togo to the bathroom and he, and
he was like, no, you can't.
And so I pissed in my pants andI remember like my whole outfit
was ruined.
I remember like there was apuddle underneath there and I
was like, I need to leave now.
So right when that bell rankedto dismiss, I ran home.
(42:38):
That's awful.
And then no one said anything.
This Kennedy didn't say anythingabout it.
No one.
Not one word.
I feel like that's your villain.
Origin horror story.
Oh, I was, I was pushed, yeah.
Three words.
Mrs.
Kennedy.
Pissed.
All right.
What are you looking forward toright now?
I'm looking forward to knowingwhat we did last summer.
(42:59):
Oh, I'm looking forward tofinding that out too.
That convoluted ass storyline.
Alright, final rapid firequestion.
Alright.
Most important question.
Oh, was that just in general?
Yeah.
Oh, oh, that was pertaining toWhat are you looking forward to
right now?
it's a nice farmer's markets.
(43:22):
Yeah.
There, there's one every weekendhere in Bushwick and it's
Monday, so I have to wait allweek.
I'm looking forward to it.
You're looking forward tofarmer's markets?
Yes.
Okay.
Final question.
Yes.
What makes you a horror icon?
W-H-O-R-R-O-R.
Icon.
What makes you a horror icon?
I think,'cause I'm like smartbut kind of dumb at the same
(43:44):
time.
Uhhuh.
Yeah.
And people like that person.
Yeah.
Absolutely.
I mean, this is the queerplayground for all things.
Scary, sexy and stupid.
Stupidest part of it.
Everybody listen.
You don't gotta be smart to be ahorror icon.
Yeah.
No, no, no, no.
Yeah.
You can have big tits in a dreamthat's see.
Exactly.
Yeah, exactly.
Yes.
I think that's, yeah.
That's why I meant icon.
I love that because I'm likesexy, but.
S Sexy, but stupid.
(44:06):
I said that.
Yes, yes, yes, yes you are.
We already let them know we'retalking about I know what you
did last summer.
So I was specifically lookingfor somebody who would be down
to talk about, I know what youdid last summer and you were
very enthusiastic about it.
So tell me, A little bit aboutwhy you were super stoked to get
(44:27):
into I Know What you did lastsummer.
Well, it was one of my favoritemovies growing up.
So during that perfect storm,the first horror movie that I
watched was Scream.
Mm-hmm.
And so immediately after atwofer Oh wow.
Double Whammied immediatelyafter Scream came.
(44:47):
I know what you did last summer.
Mm-hmm.
But it was the perfect stormbecause Buffy also came out and
I was really, really into Buffythe Vampire Slayer.
So it was the perfect mix.
Yes.
For one Richard Fam.
I get that.
Yeah.
So it played a very integralrole in, in my childhood.
Mm-hmm.
Especially during the summerwhen it came out.
Yeah.
You told me you read the book,right?
(45:08):
I did.
Yeah, it did.
What did you think about thebook?
'cause I haven't read the bookyet, so the book is very, very
different from the movie.
Yeah.
Like it's more, uh, more, um.
It's like mystery.
Right?
It's like mystery.
Yeah.
It's like a Who done it?
Who, who does it?
Was it?
Which they're still like, I feellike Slashers now are like
always a who done it.
Yeah.
But yeah, it But it wasn't aboutlike the violence or the
(45:29):
killing.
Yeah.
It was more so just like thepsychological terror of them,
running away from their past orsomething like that.
Mm.
Okay.
Rather than like, oh, there'sactually a killer.
Okay.
I see.
Nice.
Nice.
did you read the book before yousaw the movie?
I read the book after I saw themovie.
Oh, okay.
So then were you disappointedeither direction?
(45:52):
I was very disappointed.
Yeah.
Yeah.
'cause I thought there was gonnabe like a chase scene.
I thought, you know, like I wasimagining Sarah and Michelle
Geller in it.
Yeah.
I'm like, Sarah Michelle wouldnever say this.
no.
That's awesome.
I'm, I'm right there with you.
I feel like I know you did lastsummer.
Well, not one of my mostfavorite movies.
I still, it does have a specialplace in my heart because of
that era.
'cause I think this one of allof the movies that were sparked
(46:17):
from Scream's success.
I feel like this is the one thatmost people know about.
Mm-hmm.
And reference.
Mm-hmm.
Like, it's the one that's themost closely associated with
Scream.
Yeah.
And I think a huge part of thatis, Kevin Williamson wrote both
of them.
He's the screenwriter.
Yeah.
Oh, I didn't know that.
He wrote the screenplay for IKnow What You Did Last Summer.
Oh.
And then we have our Hot, sexyteens.
(46:37):
Yes.
Yes.
in Scream mm-hmm.
I think it was just like NevCampbell ju like there's only a
few, uh Oh no, they were allteens.
Yeah.
But I felt like the, like, Iknow what you did last time was
like, these are your, your teenHeartthrobs.
Mm-hmm.
It was like the, the four of'em.
Well, it was the who's who ofthe nineties.
I mean, we had all, we had, wehad three.
(46:58):
Three name big hitters.
Jennifer Love Hewitt.
Sarah.
Sarah Michelle Geller, FreddiePrince Jr.
Oh yeah.
And then Ryan Philippine.
Ryan Philippine with his, histwo name Ha As Bitch.
But it really, like, it was thewho's who of that time.
It was, yeah.
Yeah.
They were all taking off.
Mm-hmm.
And you know, with Scream likeyeah.
(47:18):
You had Drew Barry Moore, whowas already very, very well
established at that point.
And But you had like older likefigures in there too.
Yeah, yeah.
Like David Arquette.
Yeah, yeah.
Courtney Cox was like more of anolder Exactly.
And like they, yeah.
Their mom, the, their stars momwas a character.
Oh gosh.
Maureen let that woman restpeople, God, every movie,
(47:40):
they're just like, let's dragMaureen Prescott through the
fucking mud.
That who My God.
Yeah.
No, this one, it's just, it feltlike an Allstar cast.
Yeah.
We had all the hotties of thenineties.
Mm-hmm.
Now I'm just curious to know,what do you expect from this
experience on horror icon fromthis?
'cause we're gonna be watchingthe whole franchise, so there's
three.
Yes.
So I know, I still know and I'llalways know.
(48:03):
And then we're also gonna hit upthat we're, we're doing that one
too.
The new one that's coming out.
Yeah, absolutely.
Yay.
So there's gonna be four moviesthat we're watching.
So what are you, uh, what areyou expecting from this
experience?
Well, I am expecting for you toexplain the queer intersection
of this movie.
I'm expecting you to do all thework.
(48:24):
That's what I expected.
I'm just here to burp and lookpretty, everybody.
That's literally what I'm herefor.
I'm like, I like the movie.
Yeah.
I love it.
Yeah.
I'm, I am, I'm ready to be, tobe mind blown.
I'm ready for you to tell me howthis intersects into queer
culture.
Yeah.
And maybe like, why do I like itso much?
(48:46):
I can't even explain it.
Yeah, that's a really goodquestion.
Maybe we will answer that.
It's like this is like a deeptherapy session.
Yeah.
Thank you.
Of course.
I'm also, I'm excited to hearwhat you think.
I think you're gonna stumbleupon some queer things without
knowing about it.
Game on.
Yep.
That's my goal.
Alright.
My goal is to activate at leasttwo of your brain cells by the
time we are done with this.
(49:07):
That's a lot.
That's, I might explode.
I think we can make that happen.
I think we can make that happen.
Alright.
Excellent.
So, that's it for our meet theco-host, episode.
Everybody, everybody.
Round of applause for Richard,Dan, plant Daddy MD Richard.
Yes.
Where can.
Our listeners find you, youcould find me on Instagram at
(49:29):
Lord Fierce on TikTok at PlantDaddy md and you can also check
out my website, plant daddymd.com.
She has a website, so officialmost excellent.
Yeah.
And of course you can find mecrybaby on the Instagram at
crying without the G in underPublic.
(49:50):
And then follow horror icon,that's gonna be Horror Icon Pod,
W-H-O-R-R-O-R, icon Pod.
And yeah, I think that's it.
Yeah.
Why am I asking you?
Anyway, everybody, we will seeon our next episode where we
(50:12):
talk about the firstinstallment.
Until then, cuties, don't bescared unless you're into that
sort of thing.
Bye.
It was the first thing in myhead.
I'm obsessed with that., Youknow what?
I wish I did.
Okay.
I wish I was like, until nexttime.
Cuties photosynthesize this.
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