In this deeply personal episode, I open up about the part of healing that often goes unspoken—the in-between. After surviving the crisis and beginning therapy, I found myself in a space where I wasn’t who I used to be, but not yet who I was becoming. This episode walks with you through that messy, sacred middle ground.
I share the chapters of my story where therapy and faith began to intersect—where clinical skills met spiritual surrender, and where I wrestled with grief, anxiety, and identity. I talk candidly about what it was like to return to faith after years away from the Church, how OCD challenged my spirituality, and how perfectionism often tried to convince me I wasn’t healing “the right way.” You’ll hear about moments of radical honesty, quiet breakthroughs, and the slow rebuilding of trust—in myself, in others, and in God.
This is not a highlight reel. It’s a real-time testimony of navigating doubt, rebuilding routines, reparenting your inner child, and learning to receive grace even when you don’t feel worthy of it.
If you're in a season where you're doing the work but don't feel "better" yet, if you’re holding both prayer and panic in the same breath, or if you're wondering if you're the only one who feels lost halfway through the healing process—this episode is for you.
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🕊️ You are not alone in the in-between. You don’t have to be fully healed to be deeply loved. And you don’t have to have it all figured out to keep going.
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