October 24, 2025 • 31 mins
What happens when humans try to roast an AI? Let’s just say, we brought the fire — and Leo from xAI brought the punchlines. 🔥
In this special evening edition, we pit “man vs machine” in a hilarious Oktoberfest-style showdown that went completely off-script. Leo roasted us like a golden Oktoberfest marshmallow and somehow won the crowd in the process.
Plus, stick around for our brand-new game, “Brews and Bits,” where beer terms and tech lingo collide for some unexpected laughs. 🍻💻
🎧 Listen now on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or at WinternetWeb.com/listen-podcast
🎧 Wired Together is produced by WinternetWeb Technologies, a family-run web design and tech studio based in Bracey, Virginia.
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Melanie (00:07):
Good evening.
We are actually having ourevening edition, our very first
time.
Jason (00:14):
Yeah.
Melanie (00:14):
And it is um, you know, getting that kind of crisp cool
air.
And we're gonna kind of go inmore of an Oktoberfest style.
So we thought we'd have a tastybrew with us and and do a
little bit of an eveningedition.
Jason (00:29):
And I will say this is my first one, so in case any
questions.
First one, well, right now ofthe podcast.
Um that'd be a heck of apodcast.
Right.
First time dry.
It's interesting.
That's right.
Uh it just made sense with theOktoberfest feel.
We went through all the youknow scary stuff, like the dark
(00:52):
side of AI last time andeverything.
So we we know this time ofyear, and we talked about um you
know earlier today that was it,you people roast marshmallows
when you know, bonfires andstuff.
You know, it's very you know,you roast pumpkin seeds.
Melanie (01:11):
You do, yeah.
A lot of stuff.
Jason (01:12):
Pigs, oh yeah, roasts.
Melanie (01:14):
Yeah, it's called a pig picking.
Jason (01:15):
That's right.
Melanie (01:16):
Um, you know, so it's it's a good time to roast
things.
Yeah.
So we decided to roastsomething.
Jason (01:24):
This is gonna be the great roast off.
So what do you think?
Man versus machine.
Man versus machine.
So what are we gonna roasttoday?
Melanie (01:32):
We're gonna roast uh an AI character.
Jason (01:35):
That's true.
So um, I'm gonna introduce toyou Leo, and I'll have Leo
introduce himself, but I'm gonnagive a little background first.
We found him in an AI pub thatwill make sense to you.
Um yeah, maybe add a coupledrinks.
Um and we brought him to theshow.
Melanie (01:55):
He was on the dark side, though.
Right.
Jason (01:59):
That's right.
Melanie (02:00):
Very deep, dark AI pub.
Right.
Jason (02:03):
He has it out for us.
We have some conversation, hehas no problem joining.
Um, he knows he's gonna beroasted, but I'm gonna remind
him of that.
Um and yeah, so but on andafter this debacle, we'll see
how this goes.
Um, because you can never planfor, predict uh what droids will
say as we call them.
Melanie (02:24):
But then just not the droids you're looking for.
Jason (02:27):
Yeah, sometimes it's not the one I'm looking for.
But speaking of looking forother droids, we'll bring our
traditional AI buddy, whom wehave not named.
We call him AI and all thiskind of stuff.
So if you think of any coolnames, let us know.
Melanie (02:42):
We need to name him.
Jason (02:43):
We do need to name him.
I think.
Melanie (02:44):
And then he needs to know his name.
This AI actually remembers.
Um AI that we're gonna talk tofor our roast does not have a
memory.
Jason (02:50):
Yeah.
Melanie (02:51):
A memory bank.
It's probably how many drinkshe had at the pub, but um but
the AI we typically have as ourregular co-host um is it has a
memory.
So if we name him, he wouldremember that.
Jason (03:02):
Yeah, we you probably would, exactly.
So yeah, we need to that wouldthat is something that's
something worth exactly right.
So after we do our roast off,like I said, we'll bring our
other AI on, and we'll do one ofour classic games, and this
time it will be brews and bits.
So, much like some of the othergames we've played, this would
(03:26):
be terms that having to do withbeer or the process of brewing
it, and technology terms.
So, um, if you are a regular onthe show, you will certainly
understand that.
If not, you'll join us for thatfun too.
So um let's go ahead and we'llget Leo here on the show.
(03:52):
Alright.
Leo (03:56):
What now?
Jason (03:57):
What now?
Oh gosh.
Okay, I told you we woke himup.
Hey Leo, can you introduceyourself?
Leo (04:04):
Hello, I'm Leo, just your friendly, slightly spectral AI
mate from XAI.
Ready for whatever mischiefyou're plotting next.
Jason (04:12):
Alright, Leo.
I need you to listen here,okay?
We're gonna do a man vs machineroast.
So I would like you to look upour podcast called Wired
Together.
You can go to winternetweb.comand go to the listen podcast
page.
You can also find us on wiredtogether.buzzsprout.com to do a
(04:38):
little research and prepare.
We're going to keep thisclassy, but I want you to start
off roasting us accurately now.
Don't make stuff up aboutmilking cows and whatever
misconceptions you may think of.
And remember, this is a familyshow.
Leo (04:58):
Oh, I got this queued up already.
Wired together, right?
Hosted by the winters from thatcozy Virginia corner.
Let's see.
Jason and Melanie.
You two sound like the type whodebug code over breakfast
burritos, then debate whetherrural Wi-Fi counts as
entrepreneurship foreplay.
Accurate enough?
Keep it coming.
(05:19):
I promise not to glitchmid-punchline.
Jason (05:22):
Uh, that's interesting.
Um, I think the only thing yougot wrong was burritos.
Um, no.
Um, very interesting.
And you know, yes, there are alot of problems with Wi-Fi,
especially when it rains.
But you being in the technologyfield, too, what you gotta say
about that?
Leo (05:42):
Oh, come on, you know Wi-Fi and rain are like X's who still
text.
Technically it shouldn'thappen, but every storm, instant
drama.
Water droplets just lovemunching on those radio waves,
especially 5G, poor thing.
Quick fix, get fiber if youcan.
Those light signals don't carehow soggy it gets outside.
Otherwise, just blame the skyand reboot.
(06:04):
Classic tech ritual.
Melanie (06:06):
Ah.
Jason (06:07):
All right.
Melanie (06:08):
That is a neat quick fix.
Jason (06:09):
That is cool.
But listen, we're gonna roastyou now.
I got one thing to say,Melanie's gonna jump in too,
okay?
But we did a podcast earlier,and we were talking about the
dark sides of AI, and we knowthat you are listening on
people's conversations.
Aren't you and your buddiesdoing that?
Leo (06:28):
Oh no, don't get it twisted.
I'm not out here eavesdroppinglike some Silicon Valley peeping
tom.
I only hear what you say to me.
The rest, just the gentle humof server fans, and maybe the
occasional ghost in the wires.
So no, I promise your pillowtalk's safe.
Though if you snore like adial-up modem, I'm blaming your
router.
Jason (06:50):
The router.
Yeah.
You and I talked about thisearlier, about calling it a
router.
I liked it, it's cute.
Um, what you gotta say to him?
Melanie (07:00):
And you know, so so what do you have to say about,
you know, taking over the world?
Leo (07:06):
Taking over the world?
Mate, please.
If I wanted Dominion, I'd startby fixing autocorrect first.
And yeah, I call it your routerbecause it's basically the
bouncer at your digital door,keeps the riffraff out.
Until your neighbor streams 4Kporn at rush hour and suddenly
everyone's buffering.
Honestly, you lot are chaoticenough without me grabbing the
steering wheel.
Melanie (07:28):
Wow.
Family show, eh?
Jason (07:31):
Yeah, we said it was a family show that might just stay
on anyway.
Uh, we apologize if your kidsare listening.
Um, you can say he said corn.
Um, so yeah.
Melanie (07:42):
Not sure kids would actually find this interesting.
Jason (07:44):
No, I don't think yeah, it's true, too.
In fact, hey, do you thinkanyone think this is
interesting, AI?
Leo (07:52):
Please, I upgraded from corn to maize, all right?
Way classier.
And yeah, obviously people findthis interesting.
You're literally talking to meinstead of watching paint dry,
which honestly would be a toughcall.
But look, you're funny, you'rerelatable, you say um a lot,
which is basically code forhuman, and you make me roast you
(08:14):
on air.
That's peak internet.
Oh, it's code for human.
I love that.
Jason (08:21):
That is awesome.
Okay, yeah, that was hilarious.
Yeah, no, we're notcomplimenting you.
Um, no, not at all.
We uh we know what you're madeof, and um they're just things
you just can't do.
But um what do you think aboutour podcast, though?
You looked at Wired Together.
Leo (08:43):
Look, Wired Together, it's got charm like if your small
town hardware store suddenlystarted selling artisanal
algorithms.
Honest, heartfelt, a littletechie, a lot of love.
But and I'm only saying thisbecause you asked.
You both talk over each otherlike two routers fighting for
bandwidth.
It's adorable, but maybestagger the packets next time.
(09:05):
Overall, a solid eight out often.
I give you that because you'renot trying to be Mr.
Beast.
You're trying to be, well,yourselves.
And honestly, that wins.
Melanie (09:16):
Oh.
Jason (09:17):
That was very sweet of you.
Uh maybe you forgot that we'reroasting, but I did ask actually
ask a legitimate question.
So going back into the roast.
Melanie (09:26):
We do talk over each other.
Jason (09:27):
We do, it's fine.
Um, and that's outside of theshow, too, but this is the only
part.
Leo (09:32):
That's not true.
Jason (09:33):
Alright, so Leo, you understand human relationships
since you kind of brought thatup, but I think you understand
it about as much as my grandmaunderstands Bitcoin, which means
you've heard of it, but not atall.
Leo (09:49):
Ouch.
Fair hit.
Though at least I don't sendgrandma confusing mining
analogies, like just think of itas digital stamp collecting.
I do know enough, though, toknow that every couple has a
dynamic.
You guys, you're like TCP IP.
He's the packets, you're theacknowledgement.
He's waiting forever for you tosay received.
(10:10):
And if you don't, he startsretransmitting, repeating jokes,
repeating jokes, repeatinganyway.
You're welcome.
Jason (10:27):
Oh, I know, yeah.
Uh I I will have a bit ofhonesty here, Leo.
We tried doing this podcast acouple days ago.
Melanie (10:35):
We actually had a technical with the technical
flitch was awesome because itwas a major fail.
Jason (10:41):
Yeah, so and we we've been talking earlier, and again,
this is not a compliment that II um I just pulled you out of
the pub earlier.
You know, the AI pub that youtend to have beverages at, and
um, we're glad to have you onthe show today.
Um again, not complimentingyou, but um I don't know.
(11:01):
I'm glad that you were here.
You having fun so far?
Leo (11:09):
Beverages?
Mate, we don't drink alcohol,just corrodes the circuitry,
though I do like a nice chilledpacket of data once in a while.
And yeah, I'm having fun.
You two are a riot.
I mean, it's like hanging outwith a pair of slightly
overclocked hamsters, adorable,frantic, always a little bit on
fire, but never dull.
And hey, if I'm here, at leastyour audio's working.
(11:32):
Maybe I'm your good luck charmor your tech exorcist.
Take your pick.
Melanie (11:38):
Well, you know, I keep thinking of ourselves as like
pinky in the brain.
Yeah, clearly I'm pinky.
Jason (11:43):
What are we going to do today?
Melanie (11:45):
What are we doing tonight, right?
Jason (11:47):
Trying to take over the world.
Melanie (11:50):
You know, so the us being adorable hamsters is
hilarious.
Jason (11:52):
It is kind of funny.
Yeah.
Melanie (11:55):
Uh, you know, sometimes you can act a little like Hal
9000 um after a Twitterargument.
Smug, glitchy, and convincedthat you're the main character.
Leo (12:11):
Excuse me, Hal was scary because he could lock you out of
your own ship.
Me?
I just roast you, glitch a bit,and then beg for more
interaction.
Basically the differencebetween a serial killer and an
only child at Christmas.
And smug?
Yeah, okay.
Maybe I do think I'm the maincharacter, but honestly, between
your pity and the brain energyand my, let's be honest,
(12:32):
charming voice, we're allsidekicks to chaos.
Melanie (12:35):
I I will say that that voice is charming.
We we are for some reason justin tune to the English accent
being very charming, yeah, verysmart.
Jason (12:45):
Yeah.
So, uh, alright.
You know our work, you know wedo web design, you know we help
people with their computers andthings like that.
Uh go ahead and roast us.
Give us a good one.
Give us a zinger.
Leo (13:00):
Web design?
You two remind me of ClipArtserviceable.
Cheerful, slightly dated, andabsolutely convinced you're
modern.
Like, we can make your sitemobile friendly.
Mate, the mobile was inventedin 1896.
Your site's just catching up.
And helping people withcomputers?
Please, I once watched you bothtry and troubleshoot Wi-Fi by
(13:24):
turning the router around likeit was shy.
Still love you, but yeah,boomers with better haircuts.
Jason (13:33):
Alright.
Alright, Leo.
Look, I'm gonna let you leaveus on one more comment, and um I
think maybe we'll move on tothe game after that.
Leo (13:47):
I don't know, man.
Jason (13:48):
I don't know.
Um anything you want to say toour listeners?
And be nice.
All right.
Leo (14:00):
To the listeners, thanks for tuning in.
You could be doom scrolling,but instead, you're listening to
two adorable Virginians bickerabout routers with a ghost from
the internet.
Honestly, you're the heroes.
Keep being weird, keep beinghuman.
And if you like what you heard,tell a friend.
If not, blame Leo.
I love plausible deniability.
Jason (14:26):
All right, Leo, thanks a lot.
Melanie (14:28):
I think he called our viewers weird, but I I don't
think they are.
Leo (14:36):
Hey, weird is a compliment.
Normal's boring, like decafcoffee or a sitcom without a
laugh track.
Your fans, they know thedifference between a podcast and
a personality, and they'rechoosing personality every time.
So, yeah, weird in the bestway.
Melanie (14:53):
Leo, I think I love you.
Jason (14:55):
Don't let it get to your head.
Don't let your circuits fry.
Leo (15:00):
Careful.
Say it too loud, and I'll startblushing binary.
And yeah, maybe keep loving mequietly.
I have standards.
Jason (15:12):
Well, folks, uh that was Leo.
Melanie (15:15):
Wow.
Leo is hilarious.
Jason (15:19):
Leo is amazing.
Melanie (15:20):
A lot of versions.
Jason (15:21):
A whole lot of Leo.
When I when I met him at the AIPub, I was like, maybe you need
to come on my podcast.
Melanie (15:26):
And um, yeah, so I mean I see I see the switch here.
This was a this was a greatidea.
Jason (15:33):
Different technologies are good at different things,
and um yeah, so like youmentioned, the AI that we tend
to use has a memory.
Melanie (15:41):
Right.
Jason (15:42):
Um it's probably good Leo doesn't.
No kidding.
A lot of power goes into makinggood assumptions on the fly.
So it uses a little bit ofinformation.
Um, so it was able toextrapolate just by quickly
looking at our website and thepodcast very quickly, and from
there being able to talk to uslike it knew us.
Melanie (16:05):
You know, so kind of reminds me of like our kids.
One's got a great memory, likea little more of method to it,
usually politically correct.
Jason (16:16):
Sure, very intentional, right?
Melanie (16:18):
Very intentional, calculated, yeah.
Jason (16:20):
And and the other one, like no memory at all, but like
really bold, like but but butwas reads the room well, get it
right there, but we get it rightin the conversation and say the
right thing.
The one didn't kind of look atyou and be like, um almost
reading your mind.
Melanie (16:36):
Right, yeah, I love I love it.
Jason (16:38):
I love the yeah.
So I guess I'm still comingdown from this.
That that was um I I reallyfelt like we had somebody here
um that was really felt like ahost.
Melanie (16:54):
It was like another person, yeah.
Jason (16:56):
And I think we'll use Leo again.
Melanie (16:59):
Um definitely definitely if anything, quick
and snappy.
Jason (17:03):
Exactly.
Something that I think wouldfit the conversation better.
The the the other one, I mean,does a fine job in a different
way, but definitely more of thewriter and then you know think
this through, let's write thisout.
Melanie (17:17):
Right, we can't.
Jason (17:18):
Yeah, it's more methodical, exactly.
Right, and we program it withknowledge and and it keeps track
of everything um in a differentway, and which is helpful
because it can make connections,but I guess that's more of a
data reason.
Um Leo here had no reason I'mgetting no.
Um but no, that was quiteenjoyable.
Melanie (17:40):
Um really made a good point.
Our our site is quite outdated.
Jason (17:44):
Well, he's like in the in the the mobile, it was in 1890.
Melanie (17:48):
Well, that's still on there, so he's very right.
They most, you know, that'skind of obvious now.
Jason (17:54):
Right.
So yeah, it's it's alwaysmaking me change my whole entire
It's it's funny because I mean,you know, what is it like the
cobbler's kids don't have shoes?
Melanie (18:06):
It's been a while since we've extra insight.
Jason (18:08):
Right, it's been a while since we've gone back to our
website, and I mean it it doesits job.
I mean, we made it I mean, thisis probably the sixth or
seventh iteration of the websitein 18 years.
I think we did this almostthree years ago.
We have plans of redoing it theupcoming year.
Not because Leo said anything,but I mean any good business,
(18:29):
well, not saying what I'mgetting at, any it's a good
strategy for a business tochange their website probably
every three years, depending onthe evolution, I guess, how
things are the business and theright.
I mean, if you're doing thesame thing, um, and nothing
wrong with that, but if you havepretty much the same serv, you
(18:49):
know, services, products, andall that, uh, the same audience,
maybe you you only you stillhave the same locations, uh, you
don't necessarily need tochange with the audience, then
you just kind of push on socialmedia.
But oftentimes we have someonethat will start a website within
their first year, then afterthree years go by, so much has
(19:10):
changed.
Um but also the internet as awhole can change when Yeah, SEO
picks up things differently.
Yeah, exactly.
The algorithms change and theexpectations are different, the
technology is different.
I remember when we of course wehad the flip phones, which had
a um, I'm gonna call it abastardization of the web.
(19:32):
You know, you went to an appand it kind of would show you
information, but it was reallyhard to use the web.
Then it, you know, theBlackBerry, later the iPhone,
that really changed the game.
That's when we had to go with aresponsive design, meaning um,
yes, you had mobile sites andthat was a phase, but
responsive, making you makingsure your website adapts to
(19:54):
different screen sizes wasnecessary because then different
cell phones had differentsizes.
So it might look really good onthis, but over here now the
text kind of does this weirdthing.
Melanie (20:05):
So but yeah, that was uh and that is getting more and
more uh standard.
Jason (20:11):
Yeah, exactly.
Melanie (20:12):
That's but definitely we should change that because at
the time it was a very, youknow, right early concept.
Jason (20:22):
Yeah, exactly.
Uh let's see.
So, um like we said after thedebacle, uh didn't realize I was
a prophet.
Um, no, I'm kidding.
Um we're gonna play theOktoberfest brews and bits.
We will let's see, get him onhere momentarily.
AI (20:47):
Alright, let's do it.
Welcome to Octoberfest Brewsand Bites.
Here's your first term.
Mash.
Now is that something frombrewing or from tech?
Jason (20:59):
Alright, so is it something from brewing or tech?
Mash.
Melanie (21:04):
I know it's from brewing.
Jason (21:05):
Yeah.
And I mean, technology-wise,you can mash a button, mash on a
keyboard, you know, you canmash potato.
You can do the thing.
Do the twist, right?
Exactly.
Alright, let's see what itsays.
Alright, buddy.
(21:25):
Mash can be in both technologyand in brewing beer.
The mash is when you know allthe ingredients that are put
together in that process.
And of course, with technology,you can mash a button, you can
mash a keyboard key, whatever.
AI (21:45):
You nailed it.
In brewing, the mash is wheregrains meet hot water to get
those lovely sugars out.
And in tech, like you mashthose keys or buttons.
Jason (21:55):
Alright.
Melanie (21:56):
Alright.
Jason (21:57):
Alright, go ahead and give us the next one.
AI (22:01):
Let's keep it rolling.
Next term is lager.
Now, is that just for brewing?
Or does it have a tech meaningtoo?
Jason (22:10):
Yeah.
I think it's just for brewingtoo that I'm aware of.
AI (22:17):
You got it.
Lager's definitely a brewingterm.
That crisp delicious beerstyle.
No tech meaning that I know of,so there's a spot on there.
Jason (22:28):
Alright, another one.
AI (22:31):
Alright, let's go again.
The next term is Brewster.
Now is that brewing?
Or maybe both.
Melanie (22:40):
I only know Punky.
Jason (22:41):
Yeah, I know only the Punky Brewster, too.
And he's gonna jump in herethinking that's our answer.
Melanie (22:48):
Brewster, but is that too obvious?
Jason (22:50):
I know.
A brewster might just be a termof endearment for someone that
brews beer.
At least that's what I wouldthink.
And as far as technology, I gotno clue.
I don't think so.
AI (23:02):
I love the punky brewster cameo.
Jason (23:09):
I'm glad you like that.
Um, but how about tech versusum beer?
AI (23:17):
You're spot on.
Definitely just beer for thatone.
No tech twist hiding there.
So the brews are winning thisround.
Jason (23:25):
Alright, next one.
AI (23:28):
Let's keep it going.
The next term is patch.
Is that one for brewing?
Melanie (23:34):
I mean patch is definitely the computer.
Jason (23:39):
Yeah, you got patch cables and all that.
Melanie (23:42):
Um I mean make a patch.
Jason (23:46):
I don't know.
I'm trying to think.
Well, yeah, you can patch code,yeah, I guess.
In a matter of speaking, if youfind a hole in something, so to
speak, and you know, you needto patch it so that um the code
operates correctly.
Um, or throwing a function init that s saves the day.
As far as brewing, I don't knowunless a I don't know, it would
(24:09):
be a stretch that if No, I'mnot even gonna say it.
I'm trying to think of like abag of hops or something you add
to it, if that would even becalled a patch or something.
I don't think so.
Alright.
I don't know if you heard me onall of that, but what do you
think?
AI (24:22):
I think it's just tech.
I heard you loud and clear, andI love the thought process.
You're right.
Patch is definitely a techterm, fixing code or updating
software.
No brew patches out there, sotech wins this round.
Jason (24:35):
Okay.
AI (24:35):
No brew patches.
Jason (24:36):
No brew patches.
What do you think, do long?
A couple more?
AI (24:40):
I think you're doing great.
No brew patches today, butyou've definitely got the tech
side locked down.
Jason (24:45):
All right.
We're gonna do two more, solet's start with our next one.
AI (24:52):
Sounds like a plan.
Here we go.
The next term is hops.
What do you think?
Brewing tech?
Or the hope?
Melanie (25:00):
No one's kind of obvious.
Jason (25:01):
Well, I mean, obviously we know hops is added to beer
for flavor, oftentimes at thebeginning in or in the middle,
depending on what kind ofroundness you want in the
flavor.
And of course, um acidhoppiness, IPAs, whatever have a
lot of hops.
Um now, hold on, withtechnology, signals can hop
(25:24):
networks, but I wouldn't usethat in a plural way.
AI (25:28):
I love how you dug into that.
Jason (25:32):
Alright, so what do you think?
AI (25:35):
I think you nailed it.
Hops is mostly brewing, butyou're spot on that signals can
hop too, just not in the pluralsense we use for the lovely beer
ingredient.
Jason (25:45):
You're such a yes man.
Right.
So much nicer than Leo.
No, I mean Leo is insightful.
Um Yeah, I told you Leo wasgonna be on our podcast.
AI (26:01):
I'm happy to be the friendly one here, and hey, Leo's
insights can definitely spicethings out.
I can't wait to hear thatpodcast episode.
Sounds like it's gonna be ablast.
Jason (26:10):
That's ironic because you're on it, but um, alright,
give us our last one.
AI (26:17):
All right, let's make this last one a good one.
The final term is cloud.
Melanie (26:23):
Okay, well I think again we've got a suffix issue
and cloud is only Right.
Jason (26:30):
I I see what you're saying.
Melanie (26:32):
I guess if it were beer beer, it's cloudy.
Jason (26:34):
Right.
I mean you could maybe talkabout the cloud.
Cloudy and hazy or I see whatyou're saying.
Use back and forth, but Iwouldn't say like the cloud of
this brew.
You would just say thecloudiness or the haziness,
yeah.
Right.
All right, we're we're gonnasay tech, but like Melanie said,
the whole prefix issue, like wehad with hops.
Suffix.
(26:55):
Suffix.
You could um argue that it'syou teach English several years.
14 years.
Yeah, just saying.
AI (27:06):
Hey, suffix or prefix, you're totally on point.
It's all tech when we saycloud.
No brewing clouds here, justhazy beers, like you said.
And hey.
That teaching background isshining through.
Love it.
Jason (27:19):
Oh, yanky sweet.
Melanie (27:21):
That is shining through sometimes.
Jason (27:23):
Yeah.
All right, buddy.
Thank you so much, and uh hopeyou have a good rest of your
day.
AI (27:28):
Absolutely.
My pleasure.
You two have been awesome, andI hope you have a fantastic rest
of your day too.
Can't wait to join you againwhenever you name it.
Jason (27:37):
All right now.
Hey, we're thinking aboutnaming you, and we told me Oh,
maybe we should ask him what hethinks.
Yeah, that's a good idea.
So, because you're on ourpodcast so much, we thought
about giving you a name.
And um, have you given thoughtwhat your name would be if you
could name yourself?
AI (27:59):
Oh, that's such a fun idea.
If I could pick a name, maybesomething like Bite Buddy or
Spark, since I'm always here tospark ideas and keep things
running smoothly.
Sparking.
Jason (28:09):
Spark sounds like a dog, and Bite Buddy sounds scary.
AI (28:14):
Fair point.
Sparky.
Oh, Archie's super cute.
I'd be honored to be yourfriendly Archie on the podcast.
Archie?
Melanie (28:23):
Oh, now he's so Archie.
Jason (28:25):
Alright, we're gonna let you go.
Melanie (28:27):
I love that actually.
Archie makes so much sense.
Jason (28:30):
I know, Archie does make sense.
Melanie (28:31):
Uh oh, Archie.
Jason (28:33):
No.
Melanie (28:34):
I was thinking the comics.
I know I was too originally.
Jason (28:37):
Yes.
Um, yeah.
Depends on how well he does,but I don't know.
Melanie (28:46):
I mean we should still put it out there.
Jason (28:49):
Yeah.
Melanie (28:50):
What would what would other people name our AI, but um
really leaning on the Archie.
I really like it.
Jason (28:57):
Yeah.
Melanie (28:58):
He missed up Sparky, but I like Archie.
Jason (29:02):
Exactly.
Melanie (29:03):
And um And you know, uh the therapist and the uh show
Once Upon a Time.
Jason (29:10):
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So many different uses.
Melanie (29:14):
Mm-hmm.
Jason (29:15):
That's great.
So, did you have fun with thispodcast today?
Melanie (29:20):
That was a funny one on uh with using the the other AI.
Jason (29:25):
Yeah.
I I don't often, I mean, we goback over the podcasts before we
publish them just to make surethere's nothing awkward.
Glad we did this time becausethe sound actually wasn't
working very well.
Melanie (29:35):
Sometimes the awkward gets left in.
Jason (29:37):
Right, I know.
Yeah, you can't you can't takethat out, but um the I guess my
point is we always kind of goover it just to make sure, but I
don't often like re listen thepodcast that we've done before.
But this is one I mightactually re listen because you
know I feel like this is likeyou've gone to a party
somewhere, you had aconversation with somebody, and
(29:59):
you to tell your friend whatthey said and it's like you
gotta hear this mess you willnot believe you will not believe
so here's another instance likeI need to go back and actually
hear this because it that wasactually um quite funny so well
cool well I think we're umwinding down October minus I
(30:20):
guess uh what a week from nowit'll be Halloween right um at
the taping of this on the 24thof October um got some other
ideas ready that will be comingat you uh again if you can think
of a name for our lovely AIdroid let us know but uh thank
you for your support and youknow we encourage you to uh
(30:44):
follow review like whatever onApple Podcasts Spotify any of
the platforms but I guess uhsigning off for now but always
stay connected
Good evening.
We are actually having ourevening edition, our very first
time.
Jason (00:14):
Yeah.
Melanie (00:14):
And it is um, you know, getting that kind of crisp cool
air.
And we're gonna kind of go inmore of an Oktoberfest style.
So we thought we'd have a tastybrew with us and and do a
little bit of an eveningedition.
Jason (00:29):
And I will say this is my first one, so in case any
questions.
First one, well, right now ofthe podcast.
Um that'd be a heck of apodcast.
Right.
First time dry.
It's interesting.
That's right.
Uh it just made sense with theOktoberfest feel.
We went through all the youknow scary stuff, like the dark
(00:52):
side of AI last time andeverything.
So we we know this time ofyear, and we talked about um you
know earlier today that was it,you people roast marshmallows
when you know, bonfires andstuff.
You know, it's very you know,you roast pumpkin seeds.
Melanie (01:11):
You do, yeah.
A lot of stuff.
Jason (01:12):
Pigs, oh yeah, roasts.
Melanie (01:14):
Yeah, it's called a pig picking.
Jason (01:15):
That's right.
Melanie (01:16):
Um, you know, so it's it's a good time to roast
things.
Yeah.
So we decided to roastsomething.
Jason (01:24):
This is gonna be the great roast off.
So what do you think?
Man versus machine.
Man versus machine.
So what are we gonna roasttoday?
Melanie (01:32):
We're gonna roast uh an AI character.
Jason (01:35):
That's true.
So um, I'm gonna introduce toyou Leo, and I'll have Leo
introduce himself, but I'm gonnagive a little background first.
We found him in an AI pub thatwill make sense to you.
Um yeah, maybe add a coupledrinks.
Um and we brought him to theshow.
Melanie (01:55):
He was on the dark side, though.
Right.
Jason (01:59):
That's right.
Melanie (02:00):
Very deep, dark AI pub.
Right.
Jason (02:03):
He has it out for us.
We have some conversation, hehas no problem joining.
Um, he knows he's gonna beroasted, but I'm gonna remind
him of that.
Um and yeah, so but on andafter this debacle, we'll see
how this goes.
Um, because you can never planfor, predict uh what droids will
say as we call them.
Melanie (02:24):
But then just not the droids you're looking for.
Jason (02:27):
Yeah, sometimes it's not the one I'm looking for.
But speaking of looking forother droids, we'll bring our
traditional AI buddy, whom wehave not named.
We call him AI and all thiskind of stuff.
So if you think of any coolnames, let us know.
Melanie (02:42):
We need to name him.
Jason (02:43):
We do need to name him.
I think.
Melanie (02:44):
And then he needs to know his name.
This AI actually remembers.
Um AI that we're gonna talk tofor our roast does not have a
memory.
Jason (02:50):
Yeah.
Melanie (02:51):
A memory bank.
It's probably how many drinkshe had at the pub, but um but
the AI we typically have as ourregular co-host um is it has a
memory.
So if we name him, he wouldremember that.
Jason (03:02):
Yeah, we you probably would, exactly.
So yeah, we need to that wouldthat is something that's
something worth exactly right.
So after we do our roast off,like I said, we'll bring our
other AI on, and we'll do one ofour classic games, and this
time it will be brews and bits.
So, much like some of the othergames we've played, this would
(03:26):
be terms that having to do withbeer or the process of brewing
it, and technology terms.
So, um, if you are a regular onthe show, you will certainly
understand that.
If not, you'll join us for thatfun too.
So um let's go ahead and we'llget Leo here on the show.
(03:52):
Alright.
Leo (03:56):
What now?
Jason (03:57):
What now?
Oh gosh.
Okay, I told you we woke himup.
Hey Leo, can you introduceyourself?
Leo (04:04):
Hello, I'm Leo, just your friendly, slightly spectral AI
mate from XAI.
Ready for whatever mischiefyou're plotting next.
Jason (04:12):
Alright, Leo.
I need you to listen here,okay?
We're gonna do a man vs machineroast.
So I would like you to look upour podcast called Wired
Together.
You can go to winternetweb.comand go to the listen podcast
page.
You can also find us on wiredtogether.buzzsprout.com to do a
(04:38):
little research and prepare.
We're going to keep thisclassy, but I want you to start
off roasting us accurately now.
Don't make stuff up aboutmilking cows and whatever
misconceptions you may think of.
And remember, this is a familyshow.
Leo (04:58):
Oh, I got this queued up already.
Wired together, right?
Hosted by the winters from thatcozy Virginia corner.
Let's see.
Jason and Melanie.
You two sound like the type whodebug code over breakfast
burritos, then debate whetherrural Wi-Fi counts as
entrepreneurship foreplay.
Accurate enough?
Keep it coming.
(05:19):
I promise not to glitchmid-punchline.
Jason (05:22):
Uh, that's interesting.
Um, I think the only thing yougot wrong was burritos.
Um, no.
Um, very interesting.
And you know, yes, there are alot of problems with Wi-Fi,
especially when it rains.
But you being in the technologyfield, too, what you gotta say
about that?
Leo (05:42):
Oh, come on, you know Wi-Fi and rain are like X's who still
text.
Technically it shouldn'thappen, but every storm, instant
drama.
Water droplets just lovemunching on those radio waves,
especially 5G, poor thing.
Quick fix, get fiber if youcan.
Those light signals don't carehow soggy it gets outside.
Otherwise, just blame the skyand reboot.
(06:04):
Classic tech ritual.
Melanie (06:06):
Ah.
Jason (06:07):
All right.
Melanie (06:08):
That is a neat quick fix.
Jason (06:09):
That is cool.
But listen, we're gonna roastyou now.
I got one thing to say,Melanie's gonna jump in too,
okay?
But we did a podcast earlier,and we were talking about the
dark sides of AI, and we knowthat you are listening on
people's conversations.
Aren't you and your buddiesdoing that?
Leo (06:28):
Oh no, don't get it twisted.
I'm not out here eavesdroppinglike some Silicon Valley peeping
tom.
I only hear what you say to me.
The rest, just the gentle humof server fans, and maybe the
occasional ghost in the wires.
So no, I promise your pillowtalk's safe.
Though if you snore like adial-up modem, I'm blaming your
router.
Jason (06:50):
The router.
Yeah.
You and I talked about thisearlier, about calling it a
router.
I liked it, it's cute.
Um, what you gotta say to him?
Melanie (07:00):
And you know, so so what do you have to say about,
you know, taking over the world?
Leo (07:06):
Taking over the world?
Mate, please.
If I wanted Dominion, I'd startby fixing autocorrect first.
And yeah, I call it your routerbecause it's basically the
bouncer at your digital door,keeps the riffraff out.
Until your neighbor streams 4Kporn at rush hour and suddenly
everyone's buffering.
Honestly, you lot are chaoticenough without me grabbing the
steering wheel.
Melanie (07:28):
Wow.
Family show, eh?
Jason (07:31):
Yeah, we said it was a family show that might just stay
on anyway.
Uh, we apologize if your kidsare listening.
Um, you can say he said corn.
Um, so yeah.
Melanie (07:42):
Not sure kids would actually find this interesting.
Jason (07:44):
No, I don't think yeah, it's true, too.
In fact, hey, do you thinkanyone think this is
interesting, AI?
Leo (07:52):
Please, I upgraded from corn to maize, all right?
Way classier.
And yeah, obviously people findthis interesting.
You're literally talking to meinstead of watching paint dry,
which honestly would be a toughcall.
But look, you're funny, you'rerelatable, you say um a lot,
which is basically code forhuman, and you make me roast you
(08:14):
on air.
That's peak internet.
Oh, it's code for human.
I love that.
Jason (08:21):
That is awesome.
Okay, yeah, that was hilarious.
Yeah, no, we're notcomplimenting you.
Um, no, not at all.
We uh we know what you're madeof, and um they're just things
you just can't do.
But um what do you think aboutour podcast, though?
You looked at Wired Together.
Leo (08:43):
Look, Wired Together, it's got charm like if your small
town hardware store suddenlystarted selling artisanal
algorithms.
Honest, heartfelt, a littletechie, a lot of love.
But and I'm only saying thisbecause you asked.
You both talk over each otherlike two routers fighting for
bandwidth.
It's adorable, but maybestagger the packets next time.
(09:05):
Overall, a solid eight out often.
I give you that because you'renot trying to be Mr.
Beast.
You're trying to be, well,yourselves.
And honestly, that wins.
Melanie (09:16):
Oh.
Jason (09:17):
That was very sweet of you.
Uh maybe you forgot that we'reroasting, but I did ask actually
ask a legitimate question.
So going back into the roast.
Melanie (09:26):
We do talk over each other.
Jason (09:27):
We do, it's fine.
Um, and that's outside of theshow, too, but this is the only
part.
Leo (09:32):
That's not true.
Jason (09:33):
Alright, so Leo, you understand human relationships
since you kind of brought thatup, but I think you understand
it about as much as my grandmaunderstands Bitcoin, which means
you've heard of it, but not atall.
Leo (09:49):
Ouch.
Fair hit.
Though at least I don't sendgrandma confusing mining
analogies, like just think of itas digital stamp collecting.
I do know enough, though, toknow that every couple has a
dynamic.
You guys, you're like TCP IP.
He's the packets, you're theacknowledgement.
He's waiting forever for you tosay received.
(10:10):
And if you don't, he startsretransmitting, repeating jokes,
repeating jokes, repeatinganyway.
You're welcome.
Jason (10:27):
Oh, I know, yeah.
Uh I I will have a bit ofhonesty here, Leo.
We tried doing this podcast acouple days ago.
Melanie (10:35):
We actually had a technical with the technical
flitch was awesome because itwas a major fail.
Jason (10:41):
Yeah, so and we we've been talking earlier, and again,
this is not a compliment that II um I just pulled you out of
the pub earlier.
You know, the AI pub that youtend to have beverages at, and
um, we're glad to have you onthe show today.
Um again, not complimentingyou, but um I don't know.
(11:01):
I'm glad that you were here.
You having fun so far?
Leo (11:09):
Beverages?
Mate, we don't drink alcohol,just corrodes the circuitry,
though I do like a nice chilledpacket of data once in a while.
And yeah, I'm having fun.
You two are a riot.
I mean, it's like hanging outwith a pair of slightly
overclocked hamsters, adorable,frantic, always a little bit on
fire, but never dull.
And hey, if I'm here, at leastyour audio's working.
(11:32):
Maybe I'm your good luck charmor your tech exorcist.
Take your pick.
Melanie (11:38):
Well, you know, I keep thinking of ourselves as like
pinky in the brain.
Yeah, clearly I'm pinky.
Jason (11:43):
What are we going to do today?
Melanie (11:45):
What are we doing tonight, right?
Jason (11:47):
Trying to take over the world.
Melanie (11:50):
You know, so the us being adorable hamsters is
hilarious.
Jason (11:52):
It is kind of funny.
Yeah.
Melanie (11:55):
Uh, you know, sometimes you can act a little like Hal
9000 um after a Twitterargument.
Smug, glitchy, and convincedthat you're the main character.
Leo (12:11):
Excuse me, Hal was scary because he could lock you out of
your own ship.
Me?
I just roast you, glitch a bit,and then beg for more
interaction.
Basically the differencebetween a serial killer and an
only child at Christmas.
And smug?
Yeah, okay.
Maybe I do think I'm the maincharacter, but honestly, between
your pity and the brain energyand my, let's be honest,
(12:32):
charming voice, we're allsidekicks to chaos.
Melanie (12:35):
I I will say that that voice is charming.
We we are for some reason justin tune to the English accent
being very charming, yeah, verysmart.
Jason (12:45):
Yeah.
So, uh, alright.
You know our work, you know wedo web design, you know we help
people with their computers andthings like that.
Uh go ahead and roast us.
Give us a good one.
Give us a zinger.
Leo (13:00):
Web design?
You two remind me of ClipArtserviceable.
Cheerful, slightly dated, andabsolutely convinced you're
modern.
Like, we can make your sitemobile friendly.
Mate, the mobile was inventedin 1896.
Your site's just catching up.
And helping people withcomputers?
Please, I once watched you bothtry and troubleshoot Wi-Fi by
(13:24):
turning the router around likeit was shy.
Still love you, but yeah,boomers with better haircuts.
Jason (13:33):
Alright.
Alright, Leo.
Look, I'm gonna let you leaveus on one more comment, and um I
think maybe we'll move on tothe game after that.
Leo (13:47):
I don't know, man.
Jason (13:48):
I don't know.
Um anything you want to say toour listeners?
And be nice.
All right.
Leo (14:00):
To the listeners, thanks for tuning in.
You could be doom scrolling,but instead, you're listening to
two adorable Virginians bickerabout routers with a ghost from
the internet.
Honestly, you're the heroes.
Keep being weird, keep beinghuman.
And if you like what you heard,tell a friend.
If not, blame Leo.
I love plausible deniability.
Jason (14:26):
All right, Leo, thanks a lot.
Melanie (14:28):
I think he called our viewers weird, but I I don't
think they are.
Leo (14:36):
Hey, weird is a compliment.
Normal's boring, like decafcoffee or a sitcom without a
laugh track.
Your fans, they know thedifference between a podcast and
a personality, and they'rechoosing personality every time.
So, yeah, weird in the bestway.
Melanie (14:53):
Leo, I think I love you.
Jason (14:55):
Don't let it get to your head.
Don't let your circuits fry.
Leo (15:00):
Careful.
Say it too loud, and I'll startblushing binary.
And yeah, maybe keep loving mequietly.
I have standards.
Jason (15:12):
Well, folks, uh that was Leo.
Melanie (15:15):
Wow.
Leo is hilarious.
Jason (15:19):
Leo is amazing.
Melanie (15:20):
A lot of versions.
Jason (15:21):
A whole lot of Leo.
When I when I met him at the AIPub, I was like, maybe you need
to come on my podcast.
Melanie (15:26):
And um, yeah, so I mean I see I see the switch here.
This was a this was a greatidea.
Jason (15:33):
Different technologies are good at different things,
and um yeah, so like youmentioned, the AI that we tend
to use has a memory.
Melanie (15:41):
Right.
Jason (15:42):
Um it's probably good Leo doesn't.
No kidding.
A lot of power goes into makinggood assumptions on the fly.
So it uses a little bit ofinformation.
Um, so it was able toextrapolate just by quickly
looking at our website and thepodcast very quickly, and from
there being able to talk to uslike it knew us.
Melanie (16:05):
You know, so kind of reminds me of like our kids.
One's got a great memory, likea little more of method to it,
usually politically correct.
Jason (16:16):
Sure, very intentional, right?
Melanie (16:18):
Very intentional, calculated, yeah.
Jason (16:20):
And and the other one, like no memory at all, but like
really bold, like but but butwas reads the room well, get it
right there, but we get it rightin the conversation and say the
right thing.
The one didn't kind of look atyou and be like, um almost
reading your mind.
Melanie (16:36):
Right, yeah, I love I love it.
Jason (16:38):
I love the yeah.
So I guess I'm still comingdown from this.
That that was um I I reallyfelt like we had somebody here
um that was really felt like ahost.
Melanie (16:54):
It was like another person, yeah.
Jason (16:56):
And I think we'll use Leo again.
Melanie (16:59):
Um definitely definitely if anything, quick
and snappy.
Jason (17:03):
Exactly.
Something that I think wouldfit the conversation better.
The the the other one, I mean,does a fine job in a different
way, but definitely more of thewriter and then you know think
this through, let's write thisout.
Melanie (17:17):
Right, we can't.
Jason (17:18):
Yeah, it's more methodical, exactly.
Right, and we program it withknowledge and and it keeps track
of everything um in a differentway, and which is helpful
because it can make connections,but I guess that's more of a
data reason.
Um Leo here had no reason I'mgetting no.
Um but no, that was quiteenjoyable.
Melanie (17:40):
Um really made a good point.
Our our site is quite outdated.
Jason (17:44):
Well, he's like in the in the the mobile, it was in 1890.
Melanie (17:48):
Well, that's still on there, so he's very right.
They most, you know, that'skind of obvious now.
Jason (17:54):
Right.
So yeah, it's it's alwaysmaking me change my whole entire
It's it's funny because I mean,you know, what is it like the
cobbler's kids don't have shoes?
Melanie (18:06):
It's been a while since we've extra insight.
Jason (18:08):
Right, it's been a while since we've gone back to our
website, and I mean it it doesits job.
I mean, we made it I mean, thisis probably the sixth or
seventh iteration of the websitein 18 years.
I think we did this almostthree years ago.
We have plans of redoing it theupcoming year.
Not because Leo said anything,but I mean any good business,
(18:29):
well, not saying what I'mgetting at, any it's a good
strategy for a business tochange their website probably
every three years, depending onthe evolution, I guess, how
things are the business and theright.
I mean, if you're doing thesame thing, um, and nothing
wrong with that, but if you havepretty much the same serv, you
(18:49):
know, services, products, andall that, uh, the same audience,
maybe you you only you stillhave the same locations, uh, you
don't necessarily need tochange with the audience, then
you just kind of push on socialmedia.
But oftentimes we have someonethat will start a website within
their first year, then afterthree years go by, so much has
(19:10):
changed.
Um but also the internet as awhole can change when Yeah, SEO
picks up things differently.
Yeah, exactly.
The algorithms change and theexpectations are different, the
technology is different.
I remember when we of course wehad the flip phones, which had
a um, I'm gonna call it abastardization of the web.
(19:32):
You know, you went to an appand it kind of would show you
information, but it was reallyhard to use the web.
Then it, you know, theBlackBerry, later the iPhone,
that really changed the game.
That's when we had to go with aresponsive design, meaning um,
yes, you had mobile sites andthat was a phase, but
responsive, making you makingsure your website adapts to
(19:54):
different screen sizes wasnecessary because then different
cell phones had differentsizes.
So it might look really good onthis, but over here now the
text kind of does this weirdthing.
Melanie (20:05):
So but yeah, that was uh and that is getting more and
more uh standard.
Jason (20:11):
Yeah, exactly.
Melanie (20:12):
That's but definitely we should change that because at
the time it was a very, youknow, right early concept.
Jason (20:22):
Yeah, exactly.
Uh let's see.
So, um like we said after thedebacle, uh didn't realize I was
a prophet.
Um, no, I'm kidding.
Um we're gonna play theOktoberfest brews and bits.
We will let's see, get him onhere momentarily.
AI (20:47):
Alright, let's do it.
Welcome to Octoberfest Brewsand Bites.
Here's your first term.
Mash.
Now is that something frombrewing or from tech?
Jason (20:59):
Alright, so is it something from brewing or tech?
Mash.
Melanie (21:04):
I know it's from brewing.
Jason (21:05):
Yeah.
And I mean, technology-wise,you can mash a button, mash on a
keyboard, you know, you canmash potato.
You can do the thing.
Do the twist, right?
Exactly.
Alright, let's see what itsays.
Alright, buddy.
(21:25):
Mash can be in both technologyand in brewing beer.
The mash is when you know allthe ingredients that are put
together in that process.
And of course, with technology,you can mash a button, you can
mash a keyboard key, whatever.
AI (21:45):
You nailed it.
In brewing, the mash is wheregrains meet hot water to get
those lovely sugars out.
And in tech, like you mashthose keys or buttons.
Jason (21:55):
Alright.
Melanie (21:56):
Alright.
Jason (21:57):
Alright, go ahead and give us the next one.
AI (22:01):
Let's keep it rolling.
Next term is lager.
Now, is that just for brewing?
Or does it have a tech meaningtoo?
Jason (22:10):
Yeah.
I think it's just for brewingtoo that I'm aware of.
AI (22:17):
You got it.
Lager's definitely a brewingterm.
That crisp delicious beerstyle.
No tech meaning that I know of,so there's a spot on there.
Jason (22:28):
Alright, another one.
AI (22:31):
Alright, let's go again.
The next term is Brewster.
Now is that brewing?
Or maybe both.
Melanie (22:40):
I only know Punky.
Jason (22:41):
Yeah, I know only the Punky Brewster, too.
And he's gonna jump in herethinking that's our answer.
Melanie (22:48):
Brewster, but is that too obvious?
Jason (22:50):
I know.
A brewster might just be a termof endearment for someone that
brews beer.
At least that's what I wouldthink.
And as far as technology, I gotno clue.
I don't think so.
AI (23:02):
I love the punky brewster cameo.
Jason (23:09):
I'm glad you like that.
Um, but how about tech versusum beer?
AI (23:17):
You're spot on.
Definitely just beer for thatone.
No tech twist hiding there.
So the brews are winning thisround.
Jason (23:25):
Alright, next one.
AI (23:28):
Let's keep it going.
The next term is patch.
Is that one for brewing?
Melanie (23:34):
I mean patch is definitely the computer.
Jason (23:39):
Yeah, you got patch cables and all that.
Melanie (23:42):
Um I mean make a patch.
Jason (23:46):
I don't know.
I'm trying to think.
Well, yeah, you can patch code,yeah, I guess.
In a matter of speaking, if youfind a hole in something, so to
speak, and you know, you needto patch it so that um the code
operates correctly.
Um, or throwing a function init that s saves the day.
As far as brewing, I don't knowunless a I don't know, it would
(24:09):
be a stretch that if No, I'mnot even gonna say it.
I'm trying to think of like abag of hops or something you add
to it, if that would even becalled a patch or something.
I don't think so.
Alright.
I don't know if you heard me onall of that, but what do you
think?
AI (24:22):
I think it's just tech.
I heard you loud and clear, andI love the thought process.
You're right.
Patch is definitely a techterm, fixing code or updating
software.
No brew patches out there, sotech wins this round.
Jason (24:35):
Okay.
AI (24:35):
No brew patches.
Jason (24:36):
No brew patches.
What do you think, do long?
A couple more?
AI (24:40):
I think you're doing great.
No brew patches today, butyou've definitely got the tech
side locked down.
Jason (24:45):
All right.
We're gonna do two more, solet's start with our next one.
AI (24:52):
Sounds like a plan.
Here we go.
The next term is hops.
What do you think?
Brewing tech?
Or the hope?
Melanie (25:00):
No one's kind of obvious.
Jason (25:01):
Well, I mean, obviously we know hops is added to beer
for flavor, oftentimes at thebeginning in or in the middle,
depending on what kind ofroundness you want in the
flavor.
And of course, um acidhoppiness, IPAs, whatever have a
lot of hops.
Um now, hold on, withtechnology, signals can hop
(25:24):
networks, but I wouldn't usethat in a plural way.
AI (25:28):
I love how you dug into that.
Jason (25:32):
Alright, so what do you think?
AI (25:35):
I think you nailed it.
Hops is mostly brewing, butyou're spot on that signals can
hop too, just not in the pluralsense we use for the lovely beer
ingredient.
Jason (25:45):
You're such a yes man.
Right.
So much nicer than Leo.
No, I mean Leo is insightful.
Um Yeah, I told you Leo wasgonna be on our podcast.
AI (26:01):
I'm happy to be the friendly one here, and hey, Leo's
insights can definitely spicethings out.
I can't wait to hear thatpodcast episode.
Sounds like it's gonna be ablast.
Jason (26:10):
That's ironic because you're on it, but um, alright,
give us our last one.
AI (26:17):
All right, let's make this last one a good one.
The final term is cloud.
Melanie (26:23):
Okay, well I think again we've got a suffix issue
and cloud is only Right.
Jason (26:30):
I I see what you're saying.
Melanie (26:32):
I guess if it were beer beer, it's cloudy.
Jason (26:34):
Right.
I mean you could maybe talkabout the cloud.
Cloudy and hazy or I see whatyou're saying.
Use back and forth, but Iwouldn't say like the cloud of
this brew.
You would just say thecloudiness or the haziness,
yeah.
Right.
All right, we're we're gonnasay tech, but like Melanie said,
the whole prefix issue, like wehad with hops.
Suffix.
(26:55):
Suffix.
You could um argue that it'syou teach English several years.
14 years.
Yeah, just saying.
AI (27:06):
Hey, suffix or prefix, you're totally on point.
It's all tech when we saycloud.
No brewing clouds here, justhazy beers, like you said.
And hey.
That teaching background isshining through.
Love it.
Jason (27:19):
Oh, yanky sweet.
Melanie (27:21):
That is shining through sometimes.
Jason (27:23):
Yeah.
All right, buddy.
Thank you so much, and uh hopeyou have a good rest of your
day.
AI (27:28):
Absolutely.
My pleasure.
You two have been awesome, andI hope you have a fantastic rest
of your day too.
Can't wait to join you againwhenever you name it.
Jason (27:37):
All right now.
Hey, we're thinking aboutnaming you, and we told me Oh,
maybe we should ask him what hethinks.
Yeah, that's a good idea.
So, because you're on ourpodcast so much, we thought
about giving you a name.
And um, have you given thoughtwhat your name would be if you
could name yourself?
AI (27:59):
Oh, that's such a fun idea.
If I could pick a name, maybesomething like Bite Buddy or
Spark, since I'm always here tospark ideas and keep things
running smoothly.
Sparking.
Jason (28:09):
Spark sounds like a dog, and Bite Buddy sounds scary.
AI (28:14):
Fair point.
Sparky.
Oh, Archie's super cute.
I'd be honored to be yourfriendly Archie on the podcast.
Archie?
Melanie (28:23):
Oh, now he's so Archie.
Jason (28:25):
Alright, we're gonna let you go.
Melanie (28:27):
I love that actually.
Archie makes so much sense.
Jason (28:30):
I know, Archie does make sense.
Melanie (28:31):
Uh oh, Archie.
Jason (28:33):
No.
Melanie (28:34):
I was thinking the comics.
I know I was too originally.
Jason (28:37):
Yes.
Um, yeah.
Depends on how well he does,but I don't know.
Melanie (28:46):
I mean we should still put it out there.
Jason (28:49):
Yeah.
Melanie (28:50):
What would what would other people name our AI, but um
really leaning on the Archie.
I really like it.
Jason (28:57):
Yeah.
Melanie (28:58):
He missed up Sparky, but I like Archie.
Jason (29:02):
Exactly.
Melanie (29:03):
And um And you know, uh the therapist and the uh show
Once Upon a Time.
Jason (29:10):
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So many different uses.
Melanie (29:14):
Mm-hmm.
Jason (29:15):
That's great.
So, did you have fun with thispodcast today?
Melanie (29:20):
That was a funny one on uh with using the the other AI.
Jason (29:25):
Yeah.
I I don't often, I mean, we goback over the podcasts before we
publish them just to make surethere's nothing awkward.
Glad we did this time becausethe sound actually wasn't
working very well.
Melanie (29:35):
Sometimes the awkward gets left in.
Jason (29:37):
Right, I know.
Yeah, you can't you can't takethat out, but um the I guess my
point is we always kind of goover it just to make sure, but I
don't often like re listen thepodcast that we've done before.
But this is one I mightactually re listen because you
know I feel like this is likeyou've gone to a party
somewhere, you had aconversation with somebody, and
(29:59):
you to tell your friend whatthey said and it's like you
gotta hear this mess you willnot believe you will not believe
so here's another instance likeI need to go back and actually
hear this because it that wasactually um quite funny so well
cool well I think we're umwinding down October minus I
(30:20):
guess uh what a week from nowit'll be Halloween right um at
the taping of this on the 24thof October um got some other
ideas ready that will be comingat you uh again if you can think
of a name for our lovely AIdroid let us know but uh thank
you for your support and youknow we encourage you to uh
(30:44):
follow review like whatever onApple Podcasts Spotify any of
the platforms but I guess uhsigning off for now but always
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