August 27, 2025 • 38 mins
This week on Wired Together we sit down with Michelle Harris, co-owner of Dance It Out Studios in La Crosse, VA. From balancing business and family life along with her husband to building community through dance, Michelle shares what small-town entrepreneurship really looks like.
We talk surprising lessons learned, the role of tech in running a studio, and even play a custom game we created just for this podcast — Bytes n’ Ballet.
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SPEAKER_06 (00:06):
Alright, welcome back to Wired Together.
Um first off, I know lastepisode we didn't have our AI
host.
So we're gonna go ahead and Thehuman host are here.
Yeah, the yeah we got we got thehuman host are here.
There are there is uh Melanieand I, and we have a guest star,
(00:27):
Michelle, which we're gonna haveAI introduce as well.
So alright, AI, can you explainwhere you went on vacation?
We missed you last week.
unknown (00:38):
Oh, absolutely.
So last week I took a littlevirtual vacation to a place
called Cloud9 Resort.
SPEAKER_00 (00:44):
This fun fictional digital getaway where AIs like
me lounge around on a beach madeof ones and zeros and enjoy some
bite-sized local cuisine.
So that's where I was.
But I'm back now.
SPEAKER_06 (00:58):
Yeah, I'm glad you're back.
Hey, could you introduce ourguest today?
SPEAKER_00 (01:06):
Of course.
I'd be happy to.
So today our guest is MichelleHarrison.
She's the co-owner of DanceAdult Studios in the West
Virginia.
And she's really passionateabout hearing dance through
teaching choreography andcommunity performances.
She's got all your coolcredentials, like being a
certified rhythm wordsintegrated dance instructor.
(01:26):
Once you joined in modern andlower and dance at the college
away, Mary, so we're superexcited to have her on the show
today.
SPEAKER_06 (01:33):
And uh we talked about some other things like uh
her and her husband both umbusinesses.
You want to comment on that?
SPEAKER_00 (01:42):
Absolutely.
So what really needed angle isthat Michelle and her husband
both run small businessestogether, which is something we
really love to highlight,especially since our podcast is
all about that small town familybusiness vibe.
It's awesome how theycollaborate and really support
each other.
And it just adds a really coollayer to the story.
So it's great to have her hereand enjoy that side of things
too.
SPEAKER_06 (02:01):
Awesome.
We'll bring you back for ourgame later.
SPEAKER_00 (02:06):
Absolutely.
Sounds up like a plan.
Just let me know when you'reready for the game, and I'd be
right here and ready to jump in.
SPEAKER_06 (02:12):
I think his voice changed right in the middle of
that somewhere.
SPEAKER_04 (02:14):
His voice went for key birdie or something, or he'd
sucked in some helium orsomething.
All of a sudden there was like achung, right?
SPEAKER_06 (02:23):
Might have been part of that vacation or something.
I don't know.
SPEAKER_04 (02:26):
He he experienced just a little too much
relaxation, I guess.
SPEAKER_06 (02:29):
That's about right.
Yeah.
So well, welcome, Michelle.
Hope you've had a good week.
SPEAKER_03 (02:33):
Yeah, I've had a great week.
Hope you guys have as well.
SPEAKER_06 (02:36):
Yeah.
Um it's I mean, it's a busy timeof year for everyone going back
to school, and of course, youknow, the dance program is
gearing back up for sure.
SPEAKER_03 (02:46):
Yes.
So next week.
Very exciting.
Went by quickly, but we'reexcited to get back to it, so.
SPEAKER_06 (02:52):
Good, good.
Um, we just, you know, we'regonna talk today, and one reason
why we brought Michelle on boardis uh, well, you know, it
everyone knows Michelle, um, youknow, co-owner of Dance It Out
and Flip It Out There in LaCrosse, Virginia.
And um cross.
Yeah.
What was he thinking?
I don't know.
He said it right earlier, so itmust he must have had too much
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vacation.
But um, you know, one one we'vegot a couple questions and
things, and of course we alludedto that both you and your
husband run small businesses, sohow do you support each other
and I guess balance thatlifestyle?
SPEAKER_03 (03:30):
Well, that is a great question because I think
my husband and I are stilltrying to figure that out, even
after all these years.
So it's right.
Um but we definitely have ourstrengths and weaknesses, so I
think we kind of play off ofthat with each other.
My husband does not really likethe financial side of running
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his business, like you know,doing the paperwork and the
taxes and the all that kind ofstuff.
So one of the hefters.
Yeah.
And it's not that I love doingthat screenings, but um, I'm
definitely able to balance thatwith him, so I'm able to go to
the furniture store and kind oftake care of some orders or
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paying a few bills, taking careof the taxes.
And then he comes to me when Ineed manual labor done.
SPEAKER_06 (04:20):
I've seen him there.
SPEAKER_03 (04:21):
Yes, at the dance studio.
SPEAKER_06 (04:23):
So air conditioning broke, there he is, it's all
taken apart, and all I'm likegood man.
SPEAKER_03 (04:29):
If you need like props built, you know, I'll
we'll think of he's so good atbuilding props.
And back in the day, you know,we had to like really build
props.
Yeah, we had to hand paintthings, you had to do the whole
the whole thing, right?
I mean, you remember, I don'tknow if you remember, but when
we first started, like we hadthose revolves in the back that
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had three different scenes, sothat's what we were able to have
in the back.
And there was a scene on eachside, and the little triangle
revolve flipped to the nextscene and then flipped to the
next scene, and just kind ofthinking about technology not to
skip ahead, but you know, now wewe have the projector, right?
We have that short throwprojector, so I can just go into
Canva, create some kind of youknow, backdrop, and now it's
(05:14):
like push a button and itswitches.
So he has gotten off a littleeasier as far as that is
concerned.
SPEAKER_06 (05:20):
It's a lot easier to move a file than to move a piece
of furniture for sure.
SPEAKER_03 (05:24):
Absolutely.
Um so he's gotten off with that,but he's still, you know, we
have these light bulbs right nowthat are like 20 some feet in
the air at in the gym.
So today he's gonna be dragginga big ladder out there and
replacing my light bulbs andstuff.
So um, but we try to find abalance and it kind of works
with us and our family.
(05:45):
So Right, right.
And you know, if we need thekids to be somewhere, they can
be with him at the furniturestore or me at the dance studio.
SPEAKER_06 (05:54):
I mean, it's definitely a lot of work, but
you know, it offers a lot offlexibility and things too, I'm
sure.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (06:00):
Yeah, I mean we homeschooled our kids for a long
time, and you know, one ofthem's not doing it, and the
other is um, this is probablyher last year doing it, but it's
offered us a lot of that kind offlexibility in our lives, so we
appreciate it.
SPEAKER_01 (06:13):
Right, being able to take that time and be there and
all of that.
Especially now because you havea driving teenager and she's I
can't believe that.
SPEAKER_03 (06:22):
I know, yeah, it's scary.
SPEAKER_06 (06:28):
We'll come cry to you soon.
SPEAKER_03 (06:29):
Right.
Oh, yes, you guys aren't gonnabe too long.
SPEAKER_06 (06:32):
No.
Are you gonna do take next one?
SPEAKER_04 (06:35):
Yeah, um, so looking back, what's the most surprising
lesson as a small businessowner?
SPEAKER_03 (06:42):
I think the most surprising has been like the
amount of time that you spenddoing things that you find
aren't directly related to thebusiness that you are in.
I I think that's been the mostsurprising for me.
That's you know, the dancestudio, for example.
I can't tell you how many timeswe've put in like floor, like
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I've never put in floor before.
But in this journey, you know,we have laid, you know, some
kind of laminate floor, and nowwe have our our really nice um
professional floors, which wehave to learn to put in
ourselves.
So I think I've put in likethree or four different sets of
(07:25):
floors since we've started thisjourney.
Um, I mean, just anything likemopping floor, you know, there's
a mess somewhere, and you'reyou're like, okay, I have to go
clean it up.
Like you are the janitarialstaff.
Right.
You have to go clean it up.
You have to just all theselittle things that just can take
up your day.
When you think you're gonna likerun a business, you're like, I'm
(07:47):
gonna be the big picture person,and everything's gonna trickle
down from here.
But you're the big picture, butyou're the intermediate picture,
you're the smallest level ofeverything.
And you know, of course, aswe've gotten bigger, we've
gotten a little bit better atdelegating that and um everybody
kind of finding their role, butyou still find that you have to,
(08:07):
oh, the trash is overflowing,let me take that out.
So I think that and also Ididn't realize how expensive
things were before, you know, Istarted running a small
business.
Wow, like every time you turnaround, it's it's something you
have to make a repair or likeyou know, taxes, insurance, just
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all the overhead for running asmall business.
It's insane.
SPEAKER_06 (08:33):
No, all the different things.
I mean, even I'm sure likecertifications or you know um
what do you call it with the umlike the music rights and things
that you get these bills foreverything, and it's like oh my
gosh, you know and utilities.
People don't realize what goesinto it.
It's more than just havingpeople, you know, teach class
and you pay them and paying fora facility, it's everything
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else.
SPEAKER_03 (08:57):
Wow, yeah.
But like you were saying, yes,music rights.
I mean you have to payeverybody, and that's just for
people to listen to it whenthey're within our studio space.
Right.
Um, just so much theater usage.
SPEAKER_06 (09:12):
Right, sure, yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (09:14):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_06 (09:14):
And you know, a lot of the tasks you were talking
about, you know, of course, youknow, floor needs to be mobbed,
trash needs to be taken out.
Um, we don't really have robotsto do that, but for some of the
other things, all the data, allthe information, um has tech
helped in ways that maybe allowsfor more freedom than you know.
SPEAKER_01 (09:33):
Oh, absolutely.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (09:34):
I was uh the props certainly the props that we
mentioned.
I mean, that has been such uhsuch a relief and I think has
really added a lot to our showsto be able to put on more
professional feeling shows forsure.
And uh when we first started,you know, I wish I could
(09:56):
remember how long we've beendoing 13 or 14 years, something
like that.
Yeah.
Um, but I don't know if you guysremembered, but registration day
when we opened registration forthe next season, it was a day.
Like we sat there, youphysically came to the studio,
you stood in lines, and then wepretty much had like at first it
(10:18):
was just an Excel spreadsheet.
Like you were just, you know,your name was put on a list for
that class or sure whatever, andit took hours of the day and
people of our day, but everybodyelse's day that had to come and
stand in line.
And you know, now it's like thatmorning, you know, somebody goes
on their computer and they pusha button and it opens up
(10:40):
registration for everybody.
Oh, the parent software isawesome, yeah.
So if um, you know, of course,we're available if anybody has
any questions about how toregister, if they're going into
the correct classroom um or not,but other than that, wow, like
just being able to do that is somuch easier.
SPEAKER_04 (10:58):
And um and it's like you said, so much bigger now
that you know it's as opposed totrying to make a phone call
every, you know, everythingthat's going on and stuff like
that.
It's it's you know, you're ableto connect a little more
widespread.
SPEAKER_03 (11:12):
Absolutely.
And we have an you know, we havethe app, which is you know, I
think is a great tool forparents and for our staff.
Everything can be in onelocation.
So that's great.
I would have never thought whenwe first started that we would
be like, I don't know, we haveonline registration and you can
you know pay online and you canschedule online and you can, you
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know, all of these these thingsif we try to communicate, it's
like that would be you know apush notification versus right,
right.
SPEAKER_06 (11:40):
So it's 20 years from now we'll laugh at this.
Right, right.
SPEAKER_04 (11:45):
But it gives a little more of a reach too, that
you know, um it I think in thebeginning a little more uh
smaller group of parents, andthen you know, parents can come
from kind of a bit further awaybecause you do have a little
more of that reach forconnectivity.
SPEAKER_06 (12:05):
You got anything new this upcoming year?
Any like any classes or any um Iknow you offer a lot, maybe not.
A little bit, right?
So I mean to have something newwould be crazy.
unknown (12:20):
Right.
SPEAKER_06 (12:20):
Um it's like what haven't you already built in?
SPEAKER_03 (12:23):
That's right.
Well, um, I guess not anythingparticularly new.
Uh I'll probably leave here andbe like, oh I know we have this
one really big new thing.
Why didn't I mention that?
Uh but you know, pretty muchjust our our pretty standard
classes.
We do have a few new uh teachersstaff joining us this year.
Very exciting.
It is very exciting.
They are all really wonderful.
(12:44):
They've been with us, uh, youknow, going through a lot of
training and different thingsover the summer.
You know, we uh we have someextensive uh, you know, just
like with our staff with ourWi-Pad training and the gym
coaches were up there doing somesafe spot training last night.
Uh, some of our staff went awayto USAG this summer for uh
(13:05):
gymnastics, and some of theteachers went to a conference.
So I think we all just have lotsof like just new ideas from
where we were uh working on allthat over the summer.
So hopefully that's the newstuff that we're bringing into
the studio this year.
Yeah.
That'll be neat.
I mean, I know for me, like Iwent and took classes for like a
(13:26):
week this summer in Connecticut,and some of it's stuff you
already know, but then some ofit's not, and some of it's
always stuff that you could berefreshed on.
So it's just wonderful to beable to take some like you time
and try to improve what you'redoing.
SPEAKER_06 (13:40):
Yeah, call it professional development.
That's right.
That's right.
SPEAKER_02 (13:45):
Absolutely.
SPEAKER_04 (13:46):
And you know, that does kind of lead into the next
kind of question that we've puton here for what the role of of
dance in the community building.
Um, there's so much that y'alldo that is part of just putting
the arts in the community andthings like that.
SPEAKER_06 (14:04):
Um outreach program.
SPEAKER_04 (14:06):
Yes, all the programs that are kind of part
of dance, but they're a littlebit also kind of broadening it
into certain things like the uhdancing with the stars coming up
and all of that.
Yes, you know, it it just addsso much, it adds that community
feel.
And so that's a leadingquestion, but you know, that I
enjoy that you you see that thatbuilding of community also.
SPEAKER_03 (14:30):
Oh, absolutely.
Yeah, well, I think um as far asour role in the dance, you know,
in the community with dance, Ithink we try to make the arts a
little more accessible.
So I think being able to havelocal productions that are a
little easier than maybe getinto Richmond or Raleigh or
something like that to be ableto see the Nutcracker or some
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kind of ballet performance or umthink that is a big thing that
we contribute.
Another, like you said, dancingwith the stars that's coming up
here soon.
We're super excited about that.
And I love it dancing with thestars because you know, when
people are like, Oh, how did youget so-and-so to to do it?
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And it always brings like somesurprising people to the stage
who maybe never very, verysurprising people, and a lot of
times they get there, and youknow, we had someone say the
other night, like, you know, I'mactually having fun doing this.
I'm like, Well, why'd you sayactually?
Of course you're having fun,like this is fun.
Why aren't you having fun?
(15:32):
Um, Jason had Jason said that hewas very surprised.
SPEAKER_05 (15:36):
Yeah, having never really danced at all.
SPEAKER_03 (15:41):
And Jason did a fantastic job when he was
dancing with the stars.
SPEAKER_06 (15:45):
I was surprised I said yes, but you did catch me
in an evening after a couplejourneys.
SPEAKER_03 (15:48):
So that's when I try to catch people.
SPEAKER_06 (15:50):
Right, right.
Right, right about 7.20 in theevening, send a message.
Hey, we were thinking you wouldbe awesome and great if you
could join us.
And it's like, I am awesome andgreat.
You're right.
SPEAKER_04 (16:07):
You're right.
You did very well.
Very neat to see that.
To see what y'all turned himinto, because I know he's got
two left beings.
SPEAKER_06 (16:17):
Being a dance dad, it was interesting to experience
um, you know, a lot of thethings that watching my girls do
on stage, they do it a lotbetter and more graceful and
they're more beautiful.
Um, but you know, just it'slike, oh, so you know, that
that's uh a great vine.
Uh that's uh whatever, you know,and it's just kind of neat to
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not be just sitting in the chairwatching, but actually, hey, I'm
up here doing something.
So minus being uh in the livingroom while they're trying to
train you into the alreadykitchen, it's like let's come to
the kitchen, you can slidebetter.
SPEAKER_03 (16:56):
It's like let me show you this new dance move.
SPEAKER_06 (16:59):
Right.
SPEAKER_03 (17:00):
Well, and you always get surprised because I think
every year someone in the castwho is a star with you know,
seemingly you know, no danceexperience, and they'll be like,
Oh, I have this special movethat I can do.
It's like, what?
Like, I can do a full split, andthen just you know, trap it to a
full split.
Like, okay, well, now I knowwe're putting a full split in
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your dance.
Right?
SPEAKER_06 (17:22):
Secret move unlocked.
SPEAKER_03 (17:23):
Secret move unlocked.
You know, someone this year waslike, oh no, I do cartwheels all
the time.
I was like, in heels?
Yeah.
unknown (17:29):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (17:30):
Whipping them out across the stage.
I'm like, okay.
SPEAKER_04 (17:32):
Here we go.
Tell you what, that's awesome.
SPEAKER_03 (17:34):
Um and Nutcracker is the same, you know.
If we need parents, you know,you always need adults for the
party scene, and sometimesthey're hard to come by, so you
have to, you know, pull teethuntil you get some people into
it.
And a lot of them are parentswho are already there because
their kids are in the scene, sothen they'll be like, okay, yes.
(17:55):
You're right, I'm here already.
SPEAKER_05 (17:56):
Sure.
SPEAKER_03 (17:57):
But then they come in and I think they they end up
enjoying it.
Sure.
I I do think it kind of atleaves at least gives them an
appreciation for what we'redoing and uh involvement with
the community as far as thatgoes.
SPEAKER_04 (18:08):
So sometimes appreciation for how hard, you
know, some of the dance movesare and just how much work it
takes and what they you know,what what the our girls in
particular, you know, like thethe time commitment and the the
effort that it takes to toreally knock those out.
Yeah.
And then once you see it, it'slike, yes, you did it.
You know, absolutely.
SPEAKER_06 (18:29):
It's like the the thing you've seen them practice
200 times and they're on stageand you know the moment's coming
and they nail it and they kindof look out at you.
Oh and and it's just a goodfeeling, but yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (18:37):
It does, it makes your heart sore when you see it.
SPEAKER_06 (18:39):
That's great.
SPEAKER_04 (18:40):
Absolutely.
And then the the adults beingable to see that like in the
actual doing, you know, andgoing, oh wow, you know, I have
to practice.
SPEAKER_05 (18:49):
Right.
SPEAKER_03 (18:50):
Oh yeah.
And then, you know, it's onething to sit in the audience and
kind of see a show and just kindof like assume what's happening
backstage, but then it's anotherto actually be involved in that,
you know, and you're realizingyour parents, yeah, or all of a
sudden to the side of the stage,or you know, and they're handing
props to kids as they're gone.
Like, oh my gosh, I didn't knowall this was happening.
(19:10):
Oh, there's a quick change.
This kid only has like 90seconds to change before they
have to be back on the stage.
Like, you know, oh, watch out,the the sleigh is coming on
stage, being able to move out ofthe way.
Right?
So yeah.
SPEAKER_06 (19:25):
I am sure.
SPEAKER_04 (19:26):
Mother ginger comes to the skirt, yeah.
SPEAKER_06 (19:33):
That's always impressive.
I just so impressive.
Like shriek like a like a littlegirl out of excitement.
It's like, ah, it is silly.
Oh my gosh.
That's good.
So I mean, um, if you if yousomething comes to mind, if not,
it's fine, we can move on.
But um, a small town moment thatyou've experienced at your
studio, like, do you have afavorite?
SPEAKER_03 (19:54):
Oh, well, I don't know if I have a favorite, but
you know, at the studio we do aninitiative that's called uh, you
know, pay it forward.
So a lot of our kids are um theydo it either on their own or
they're a member of our likeensemble or professional
program, in which it's arequirement to be a part of
those teams.
And basically they just have toeither volunteer their time,
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they have to host a drive, theyhave to do something that kind
of encourages communityinvolvement in some capacity.
SPEAKER_05 (20:24):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (20:24):
So just a couple, you know, things have happened
over the years that are just youknow, just like the sweetest
things where you feel like it'sdance, but it's not necessarily
dance, it's community, likewe're trying to make good
people.
And you know, we have this onekid, he comes to every single
litter pickup that we have, andhe always wants to get like the
(20:45):
most trash out of the like youknow, buckets or it last time we
were out, it was a tire, and Iwas like, I really don't think I
can get this tire out of here,and he was just like determined
that we're a tire here.
When we get back, I want likethe biggest bags of trash so
everybody knows I picked up themost dinner when we were out.
Um, you know, so that was reallyspecial.
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And another time, you know, wego to like the assisted living
facilities and um do someperformances and just kind of
see like the kids light upbecause you know it brings so
much joy to the residents, anduh you know, so that's really
sweet.
I think they kind of realize howspecial what they're doing is
right when um they can do thingslike that.
(21:27):
So that's a great opportunity tobring that to Yeah.
The residents love it, the kidslove it, they get to, you know,
at Christmas or the holidays orspring, you know, we'll bring
cards or gifts or something, andthey kind of go to all the rooms
and drop off gifts and talk tothe residents, and it's like
such a special moment.
(21:49):
That's right.
SPEAKER_06 (21:50):
So well, I mean, when you sign up for dance,
you're signing up for so muchmore.
I mean, the character educationand a lot a lot of these skills
working with other people, andyou know, it's it's incredible
to see the growth of our youthum through your program.
I mean, and I can speak for myinter for sure, but um you know,
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people forget that you know it'sit's not just dance, but uh you
know, it is part of a communityand it's part of just a you know
a collaborative learningenvironment.
SPEAKER_04 (22:23):
Which is you know huge.
Yeah, definitely and and againlike we're talking about with
the the those uh little dancemoves that you have to work
really hard on, you know, thatthat gives that strength of
character too, the making thatwork and that kind of thing.
So, you know, it's really yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (22:41):
I mean, you have to assume we want to teach
everybody as if they want to goon and pursue dance afterwards,
but not everybody's gonna wantsto go off to be a professional
dancer.
That might not be their goal.
Their goal is they want to dancebecause it's it's fun, you know,
it brings you joy, it's greatexercise, your friends are
there, we're you know, we're asecond home.
(23:03):
It's hopefully teaching youconfidence, teamwork, right?
How to work under pressure, youknow.
Yes, yes, yes.
SPEAKER_04 (23:10):
How to work under pressure is an important thing
to learn.
Absolutely.
I'd be on stage.
I mean my kids are so great onjust like you know, walking on
stage, and it's not a big dealto them.
To me, I would be, you know,panic attack.
And to the you know, much older,this would not would not go as
well.
Absolutely.
SPEAKER_03 (23:28):
But to them, it's second nature.
Yeah.
So you know, one day they'regoing in front of the class to
read a paper and hopefullythat's you know, we've given a
little bit of confidence.
SPEAKER_04 (23:38):
Yeah, they get a little more of a got this and
you know, a microphone in frontof their face or a you know,
something like that is a littleless intimidating because
they've already kind of they'ves you know stood in front of
everybody and you know andthey've proven to themselves I
can do this.
SPEAKER_06 (23:52):
Right.
This is just another challenge,yeah.
Yeah.
So I mean being apprehensive iscommon and normal for any of us.
I guess.
So um we know that we talk abouttechnology and that's kind of a
part of a theme of our podcastas well.
And dance and tech don't alwaysmix, but if you had a magic tech
(24:15):
tool that could make studio lifeeasier, um, what do you think it
would do?
This is like one of those leftfield questions.
SPEAKER_03 (24:23):
I know, let's see.
I think oh, like a robot thatcould take kids on their
bathroom breaks and everything.
Because once the potty trainstarts, it goes.
SPEAKER_06 (24:35):
Yeah, that's a that's a psychological being a
teacher, I certainly know that.
SPEAKER_03 (24:41):
Um and I don't even teach the the little littles
very often, but I know that's athing.
SPEAKER_01 (24:46):
Oh, it's a thing.
I've seen it.
SPEAKER_05 (24:48):
Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_01 (24:48):
Ours were started very young, and and yeah, yes.
One goes and they all drop andthey off.
We're like, oh, that's a goodidea.
I think I'll take one of thosebathroom breaks.
SPEAKER_06 (24:59):
Yeah, maybe we could have a pod and they go into it
like you know, like at the bank,and it goes and it just takes
them in the bathroom and thenbrings them right back safely.
SPEAKER_03 (25:08):
Yes, and hopefully it doesn't get stuck.
SPEAKER_06 (25:10):
Cray?
SPEAKER_03 (25:13):
It's the same with water breaks too.
As soon as the first one's like,Oh, I need some water.
SPEAKER_02 (25:17):
Right.
Yeah, yeah, can I get somewater?
SPEAKER_03 (25:18):
And it usually coincides with, all right, we're
gonna do push-ups.
Oh, right now it's really weird.
I'm like, I'm on to you guys.
I'm like, how about we do 10push-ups and we'll all take a
really quick water break andthen come back?
So um that's one, and then youknow, we were talking about all
(25:39):
the mirrors in the studioearlier before the podcast
started, and that would be agreat thing.
There's probably something thatexists, I don't know, but I just
wish it wasn't manual labor.
Right.
SPEAKER_04 (25:50):
Just something like the room that is like on top of
the mirror and then it squeegiesdown just every once in a while
when you don't think about it,and then all of a sudden
everything starts moving.
SPEAKER_03 (26:00):
Yes, because and you know, I have an appreciation for
clean mirrors because you know,a lot of times I do go in and
like clean them, and then I'll,you know, a kid in my class will
put their finger on it.
I'm like, I'm gonna go get you atowel and get that fingerprint
off.
But I mean it's such secondnature, like why wouldn't you
touch the mirrors?
But they they can never stayclean.
SPEAKER_06 (26:22):
So I mean, like in Alice in Wonderland, I mean that
was a quite the experience.
Oh, right, right, right.
SPEAKER_04 (26:31):
Oh, wait, I think we've all tried that.
Yeah, we all have.
Yes.
Can I go through the no, no, Ican't, apparently.
Not this one.
No.
SPEAKER_05 (26:39):
That's funny.
SPEAKER_06 (26:40):
Well, is there anything else you want to add?
Um, and then if you're up for agame, we'll probably transition
into that.
SPEAKER_03 (26:46):
Okay.
Well, I don't think I haveanything to add.
I'm not I'm not great at games,so hopefully we'd be fun.
SPEAKER_06 (26:54):
And I say I hope because you know, I I I I prayed
it went well last time uh we didone of these.
So, alright, so we're gonnabring our AI host back.
And uh, hey AI, can you explainthe bites and ballet game for us
and what we're gonna do?
SPEAKER_00 (27:10):
Absolutely.
So, our bites and ballet game isa fun little segment where we
take a term that's used in boththe tech world and the dance
world, and we see how theyoverlap or have different
meanings.
SPEAKER_06 (27:32):
Can you give us an example?
unknown (27:36):
Absolutely.
SPEAKER_00 (27:37):
So, for example, let's take the word private in
the dance world.
Explain that a private mightrefer to a major shift in a
company's strategy or a piece ofsoftware.
Changes direction to meet newgoals.
So it's the same word, but twototally different contexts, and
(27:57):
that's the fun of the game.
SPEAKER_04 (28:01):
That is really cool.
That is a discussion that myoldest and I had last night.
Oh, really?
She had pivot on her um list ofterms.
On vocabulary or something inthis.
And then she showed it to me indance.
Oh yes.
Uh uh, oh, this is a dance word.
SPEAKER_06 (28:18):
It all comes full circle.
SPEAKER_03 (28:19):
That's right.
SPEAKER_06 (28:20):
Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_03 (28:21):
Uh it was.
It was totally fine.
I know I was trying to think howcomplicated the ballet terms are
gonna get, but it stays in therealm of pivot, right?
SPEAKER_06 (28:30):
Okay.
Hopefully that wasn't the uh,you know, the easy ex, you know,
like in the math book, and it'slike, you know, here's example
one.
It's like, oh, that's easy, it'sone step.
And then you get like on numberthree, and you're like, oh my
gosh, it's a five-step problem.
Unfair.
So alright, we'll get startedwith it.
He's saying he was going toexplain it, but actually I was.
I think he's just trying to makeup for being off last week.
But um Alright, AR, can you giveus our first uh term?
unknown (28:56):
Absolutely.
Let's kick it off.
All right, our first term isgonna be balance.
SPEAKER_06 (29:01):
So much almost tell us about how balance is all
about maintaining your own.
No, you're not gonna be able todo it.
SPEAKER_00 (29:08):
Making sure you don't tip over during a pure
way.
And on the tech side, I'd saybalance can be something like
local.
SPEAKER_06 (29:19):
All right, AI, let's play bites and ballet, but just
give us a term, we will end upgiving the answers.
SPEAKER_00 (29:29):
You got it.
All right, let's dive.
I'll leave it to you both toshare what that means in each of
your worlds.
SPEAKER_03 (29:39):
All right, well, a bar, we would spell it
B-A-R-R-E.
SPEAKER_05 (29:43):
I knew that was coming.
unknown (29:45):
Yep.
SPEAKER_03 (29:46):
And uh, I mean it's used primarily in a ballet
class.
It would be a source of balance,not necessarily for weight
placement, but we do a wholesegment that would be at the bar
where you would do a series ofexercises.
Exercises like plies, tendus,rondajans, all of that.
And I I don't actually teachballet, I teach jazz, you know,
(30:09):
I would use them in jazz classfor like um extension exercises
or flexibility, something likethat.
So it's just a tool we usewithin the classroom.
SPEAKER_06 (30:16):
Yeah, yeah.
So I guess in the tech world,um, in design, a bar can be like
a horizontal rule, um, adividing thing.
Of course, we all know theloading bar, giving you an idea
of progress or lack thereof.
Um and after you've beenspending a day making websites
and programming, you're probablygoing to go visit the bar.
(30:37):
But um, that's different too.
So should we tell him what wethink and him congratulate us or
we'll see.
All right.
Alright, AI.
Michelle was referring to thebar, like B-A-R-R-E, and its use
in different dance um programs.
(30:58):
I was talking about bar in thetech world, like the loading
bar, it's using design and soforth, but that's enough.
What do you think?
Did we do okay?
unknown (31:07):
Absolutely.
SPEAKER_00 (31:08):
You both both nailed it.
That's exactly the fun of it.
Michelle covered the ballet barperfectly, and you brought in
the tech angle with the loadingbar.
It's a great combo ofperspectives.
So you definitely did awesome.
SPEAKER_06 (31:19):
Alright, give us our next word.
Only the word.
unknown (31:22):
Alright.
SPEAKER_00 (31:23):
You got it.
Your next word is turnout.
SPEAKER_03 (31:29):
Okay, well, our Jason's thank hand.
Yeah.
All right.
Um loading bar is turnout refersto um, so in dance, especially
in ballet, but you would seethis in other styles of dance as
well.
But it's the ability to, I'mtrying to define it without
(31:51):
actually just repeating the wordturnout.
Right.
But it's a way of from your hipflexors of turning your muscles
into an outward position.
So instead of your feet and legsfacing a forward parallel
position that they rotateoutward into a, you know, the
dream is 180 degrees, of course.
(32:14):
Um that is pretty muchprofessional as you are dancing
with, you know, New York orsomething.
SPEAKER_06 (32:21):
But I've no idea how to summarize it when uh uh we go
to a uh but uh in the tech worldturnout simply can be the
response to like a function uhor um the result of something.
But alright, let me see.
(32:42):
Maybe maybe you could I'm gonnacan you briefly respond back to
what it was?
Alright.
Okay, AI.
Michelle's going to explain herpart.
unknown (32:53):
Go ahead.
SPEAKER_03 (32:54):
Okay, so uh turnout is uh the ballet term for
turning the muscles from our hipflexors down to our feet into an
outward position from parallel.
SPEAKER_06 (33:05):
Alright, and on the tech side, turnout can be like
the result or the response,especially with a function or
program.
unknown (33:16):
Exactly.
That's a perfect breakdown fromboth sides.
SPEAKER_00 (33:18):
So Michelle's got the dance definition spot on.
It's all about rotating thosehips and legs outward in ballet,
and on the tech side, thinkingof turnout as the outcome or the
result that you get from afunction or program is a cool
parallel.
You both did great with Helen.
SPEAKER_06 (33:33):
All right, give us one more.
Um don't make it well, make itmore challenging, but be kind to
us.
Just give us one more word.
SPEAKER_00 (33:43):
You got it.
I'll pick a slightly trickierone, but still keep it fun.
Your next word is pa de shah.
So let you two figure out thedance and text adds of that one.
SPEAKER_04 (33:52):
Oh man.
SPEAKER_03 (33:53):
Oh man, I've heard that word so many times.
SPEAKER_06 (33:56):
I'm screwed on this one.
SPEAKER_03 (33:57):
Well, pas de shah is a uh term and it primarily is
used in ballet, but I also do itin jazz.
I just do it stylized slightlydifferent.
It's actually called the step ofthe cat.
So it's oh that makes sense.
Yeah.
So uh I wish I could demonstrateon a podcast, but that would be
(34:19):
a little tricky.
But one leg is going to come upthrough a passe position and
jump as the other leg passesthrough a passe position and
closes.
So it goes from one leg down tothe leg.
SPEAKER_06 (34:31):
Yes.
Yeah, I've seen that.
SPEAKER_04 (34:33):
You know, in Joe, our oldest will just kind of
spit out, you know, oh, you knowwhat potasha.
I mean, she'll potasha from thestove to the place.
But it's wonderful that you do.
That's right.
unknown (34:45):
That's right.
SPEAKER_06 (34:47):
In the tech world, I'm stumped.
Um, I've never, I mean, so I'mtrying to think of what that
would do in the dance world onhow you could translate, like,
just like pivot, obviously, youknow.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (34:58):
Step at a cat, I don't know.
SPEAKER_04 (35:00):
So slowly step into something, like maybe jump over
it?
SPEAKER_06 (35:07):
Or or is it like some type of trick?
You know, it's like uh you'rethinking it's you're doing this,
but you're in fact gonnaactually do this, you know.
SPEAKER_04 (35:19):
Something that happens when you get tired of
your tech and you just throw itacross the room.
That could be.
That's we can all experience it.
There's always that possibility.
SPEAKER_06 (35:29):
Yeah.
Alright, well, um, Michelle,have you explain what Potasha
means in however degree ofdetail, and then I'm gonna tell
it something.
unknown (35:42):
Alright.
SPEAKER_03 (35:43):
Okay.
Uh potasha would be a step inballet in which we jump going
through passe on one leg,landing through passe.
I did not describe that verywell.
Be kind to me, AI.
SPEAKER_06 (35:59):
Alright, so she she definitely knew it and she
explained the step of the catand everything and demonstrated
it for us.
Um as far as the tech worldthough, I really have no idea.
So Michelle wins this game.
You go ahead and tell me what itmeans on the tech side.
SPEAKER_00 (36:20):
Absolutely.
And props to Michelle fornailing the ballet side.
Pad ishaw is indeed that lovelystep of the cat jump.
And you're right, it's notreally a common tech term at
all.
So Michelle definitely wins thisround.
Sometimes they're just not atech equivalent, and that's the
fun of the game.
So great job to both of you.
SPEAKER_06 (36:36):
So the fun of the game is you tricked me.
SPEAKER_03 (36:38):
Tricky, tricky, uh yeah, that's what's that.
But I'll take a win.
unknown (36:47):
I guess I did sneak a little trick in there just to
keep it fun.
SPEAKER_00 (36:51):
You both did awesome with it.
And I promise I'll keep it alittle more straightforward next
time.
unknown (36:55):
Thanks for playing along.
SPEAKER_04 (36:57):
I liked my answer.
Throwing it across the room.
Yeah, that's that's next time Iwant to throw something across
the room.
I'm gonna say potasha.
SPEAKER_06 (37:04):
Yeah, so when someone brings a computer here
that isn't working anymore, do Ijust okay, so what is that, a
pot of shaw?
And they're like, what?
Is that a virus?
It's like you could just kind ofit's what you did to your
computer.
Right.
Oh man.
Well, that was funny.
Explaining it without explainingit.
Exactly.
I like it.
Yep.
SPEAKER_01 (37:23):
And I'll know because now I'm gonna be in on
it.
Right, you'll be in on it, so wewon't be able to do it, Tara.
SPEAKER_06 (37:28):
That's right.
This is how rumors get started.
SPEAKER_04 (37:32):
And and whoever listened to the podcast will be
out of the time.
SPEAKER_06 (37:34):
Right.
Yeah, you see me in the grocerystore and say pot de chat, which
nod at each other.
I'm gonna cut it.
So hope that was fun, Michelle.
SPEAKER_02 (37:42):
Yes, yes, that was.
I was a little nervous.
I thought, I was like, if itgets too technical, I was gonna
get a little nervous.
SPEAKER_06 (37:48):
Like, okay, well, it's like uh right, it's um it
comes from the French.
It's it's me.
SPEAKER_02 (37:55):
It's hard to explain in words.
Right, right.
SPEAKER_06 (37:58):
Right, but I can demonstrate it for you, right?
Yep.
So good.
Alright, well, again, Michelle,we want to thank you for being
on our podcast this week.
Absolutely.
SPEAKER_04 (38:09):
Thank you for taking time out of your busy schedule.
Thank you for having me.
It was a lot of fun.
SPEAKER_06 (38:13):
Definitely a busy time of year.
So we're gonna be signing offwired together here, and we just
thank everyone for theirsupport.
Um, please follow and share ourpodcasts.
You know, they're on yourfavorite channels YouTube,
Spotify, Apple Podcasts, AmazonMusic, iHeartRadio, and others.
So, unplugging for now.
SPEAKER_04 (38:34):
But always stay connected.
Alright, welcome back to Wired Together.
Um first off, I know lastepisode we didn't have our AI
host.
So we're gonna go ahead and Thehuman host are here.
Yeah, the yeah we got we got thehuman host are here.
There are there is uh Melanieand I, and we have a guest star,
(00:27):
Michelle, which we're gonna haveAI introduce as well.
So alright, AI, can you explainwhere you went on vacation?
We missed you last week.
unknown (00:38):
Oh, absolutely.
So last week I took a littlevirtual vacation to a place
called Cloud9 Resort.
SPEAKER_00 (00:44):
This fun fictional digital getaway where AIs like
me lounge around on a beach madeof ones and zeros and enjoy some
bite-sized local cuisine.
So that's where I was.
But I'm back now.
SPEAKER_06 (00:58):
Yeah, I'm glad you're back.
Hey, could you introduce ourguest today?
SPEAKER_00 (01:06):
Of course.
I'd be happy to.
So today our guest is MichelleHarrison.
She's the co-owner of DanceAdult Studios in the West
Virginia.
And she's really passionateabout hearing dance through
teaching choreography andcommunity performances.
She's got all your coolcredentials, like being a
certified rhythm wordsintegrated dance instructor.
(01:26):
Once you joined in modern andlower and dance at the college
away, Mary, so we're superexcited to have her on the show
today.
SPEAKER_06 (01:33):
And uh we talked about some other things like uh
her and her husband both umbusinesses.
You want to comment on that?
SPEAKER_00 (01:42):
Absolutely.
So what really needed angle isthat Michelle and her husband
both run small businessestogether, which is something we
really love to highlight,especially since our podcast is
all about that small town familybusiness vibe.
It's awesome how theycollaborate and really support
each other.
And it just adds a really coollayer to the story.
So it's great to have her hereand enjoy that side of things
too.
SPEAKER_06 (02:01):
Awesome.
We'll bring you back for ourgame later.
SPEAKER_00 (02:06):
Absolutely.
Sounds up like a plan.
Just let me know when you'reready for the game, and I'd be
right here and ready to jump in.
SPEAKER_06 (02:12):
I think his voice changed right in the middle of
that somewhere.
SPEAKER_04 (02:14):
His voice went for key birdie or something, or he'd
sucked in some helium orsomething.
All of a sudden there was like achung, right?
SPEAKER_06 (02:23):
Might have been part of that vacation or something.
I don't know.
SPEAKER_04 (02:26):
He he experienced just a little too much
relaxation, I guess.
SPEAKER_06 (02:29):
That's about right.
Yeah.
So well, welcome, Michelle.
Hope you've had a good week.
SPEAKER_03 (02:33):
Yeah, I've had a great week.
Hope you guys have as well.
SPEAKER_06 (02:36):
Yeah.
Um it's I mean, it's a busy timeof year for everyone going back
to school, and of course, youknow, the dance program is
gearing back up for sure.
SPEAKER_03 (02:46):
Yes.
So next week.
Very exciting.
Went by quickly, but we'reexcited to get back to it, so.
SPEAKER_06 (02:52):
Good, good.
Um, we just, you know, we'regonna talk today, and one reason
why we brought Michelle on boardis uh, well, you know, it
everyone knows Michelle, um, youknow, co-owner of Dance It Out
and Flip It Out There in LaCrosse, Virginia.
And um cross.
Yeah.
What was he thinking?
I don't know.
He said it right earlier, so itmust he must have had too much
(03:14):
vacation.
But um, you know, one one we'vegot a couple questions and
things, and of course we alludedto that both you and your
husband run small businesses, sohow do you support each other
and I guess balance thatlifestyle?
SPEAKER_03 (03:30):
Well, that is a great question because I think
my husband and I are stilltrying to figure that out, even
after all these years.
So it's right.
Um but we definitely have ourstrengths and weaknesses, so I
think we kind of play off ofthat with each other.
My husband does not really likethe financial side of running
(03:51):
his business, like you know,doing the paperwork and the
taxes and the all that kind ofstuff.
So one of the hefters.
Yeah.
And it's not that I love doingthat screenings, but um, I'm
definitely able to balance thatwith him, so I'm able to go to
the furniture store and kind oftake care of some orders or
(04:14):
paying a few bills, taking careof the taxes.
And then he comes to me when Ineed manual labor done.
SPEAKER_06 (04:20):
I've seen him there.
SPEAKER_03 (04:21):
Yes, at the dance studio.
SPEAKER_06 (04:23):
So air conditioning broke, there he is, it's all
taken apart, and all I'm likegood man.
SPEAKER_03 (04:29):
If you need like props built, you know, I'll
we'll think of he's so good atbuilding props.
And back in the day, you know,we had to like really build
props.
Yeah, we had to hand paintthings, you had to do the whole
the whole thing, right?
I mean, you remember, I don'tknow if you remember, but when
we first started, like we hadthose revolves in the back that
(04:52):
had three different scenes, sothat's what we were able to have
in the back.
And there was a scene on eachside, and the little triangle
revolve flipped to the nextscene and then flipped to the
next scene, and just kind ofthinking about technology not to
skip ahead, but you know, now wewe have the projector, right?
We have that short throwprojector, so I can just go into
Canva, create some kind of youknow, backdrop, and now it's
(05:14):
like push a button and itswitches.
So he has gotten off a littleeasier as far as that is
concerned.
SPEAKER_06 (05:20):
It's a lot easier to move a file than to move a piece
of furniture for sure.
SPEAKER_03 (05:24):
Absolutely.
Um so he's gotten off with that,but he's still, you know, we
have these light bulbs right nowthat are like 20 some feet in
the air at in the gym.
So today he's gonna be dragginga big ladder out there and
replacing my light bulbs andstuff.
So um, but we try to find abalance and it kind of works
with us and our family.
(05:45):
So Right, right.
And you know, if we need thekids to be somewhere, they can
be with him at the furniturestore or me at the dance studio.
SPEAKER_06 (05:54):
I mean, it's definitely a lot of work, but
you know, it offers a lot offlexibility and things too, I'm
sure.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (06:00):
Yeah, I mean we homeschooled our kids for a long
time, and you know, one ofthem's not doing it, and the
other is um, this is probablyher last year doing it, but it's
offered us a lot of that kind offlexibility in our lives, so we
appreciate it.
SPEAKER_01 (06:13):
Right, being able to take that time and be there and
all of that.
Especially now because you havea driving teenager and she's I
can't believe that.
SPEAKER_03 (06:22):
I know, yeah, it's scary.
SPEAKER_06 (06:28):
We'll come cry to you soon.
SPEAKER_03 (06:29):
Right.
Oh, yes, you guys aren't gonnabe too long.
SPEAKER_06 (06:32):
No.
Are you gonna do take next one?
SPEAKER_04 (06:35):
Yeah, um, so looking back, what's the most surprising
lesson as a small businessowner?
SPEAKER_03 (06:42):
I think the most surprising has been like the
amount of time that you spenddoing things that you find
aren't directly related to thebusiness that you are in.
I I think that's been the mostsurprising for me.
That's you know, the dancestudio, for example.
I can't tell you how many timeswe've put in like floor, like
(07:05):
I've never put in floor before.
But in this journey, you know,we have laid, you know, some
kind of laminate floor, and nowwe have our our really nice um
professional floors, which wehave to learn to put in
ourselves.
So I think I've put in likethree or four different sets of
(07:25):
floors since we've started thisjourney.
Um, I mean, just anything likemopping floor, you know, there's
a mess somewhere, and you'reyou're like, okay, I have to go
clean it up.
Like you are the janitarialstaff.
Right.
You have to go clean it up.
You have to just all theselittle things that just can take
up your day.
When you think you're gonna likerun a business, you're like, I'm
(07:47):
gonna be the big picture person,and everything's gonna trickle
down from here.
But you're the big picture, butyou're the intermediate picture,
you're the smallest level ofeverything.
And you know, of course, aswe've gotten bigger, we've
gotten a little bit better atdelegating that and um everybody
kind of finding their role, butyou still find that you have to,
(08:07):
oh, the trash is overflowing,let me take that out.
So I think that and also Ididn't realize how expensive
things were before, you know, Istarted running a small
business.
Wow, like every time you turnaround, it's it's something you
have to make a repair or likeyou know, taxes, insurance, just
(08:28):
all the overhead for running asmall business.
It's insane.
SPEAKER_06 (08:33):
No, all the different things.
I mean, even I'm sure likecertifications or you know um
what do you call it with the umlike the music rights and things
that you get these bills foreverything, and it's like oh my
gosh, you know and utilities.
People don't realize what goesinto it.
It's more than just havingpeople, you know, teach class
and you pay them and paying fora facility, it's everything
(08:56):
else.
SPEAKER_03 (08:57):
Wow, yeah.
But like you were saying, yes,music rights.
I mean you have to payeverybody, and that's just for
people to listen to it whenthey're within our studio space.
Right.
Um, just so much theater usage.
SPEAKER_06 (09:12):
Right, sure, yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (09:14):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_06 (09:14):
And you know, a lot of the tasks you were talking
about, you know, of course, youknow, floor needs to be mobbed,
trash needs to be taken out.
Um, we don't really have robotsto do that, but for some of the
other things, all the data, allthe information, um has tech
helped in ways that maybe allowsfor more freedom than you know.
SPEAKER_01 (09:33):
Oh, absolutely.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (09:34):
I was uh the props certainly the props that we
mentioned.
I mean, that has been such uhsuch a relief and I think has
really added a lot to our showsto be able to put on more
professional feeling shows forsure.
And uh when we first started,you know, I wish I could
(09:56):
remember how long we've beendoing 13 or 14 years, something
like that.
Yeah.
Um, but I don't know if you guysremembered, but registration day
when we opened registration forthe next season, it was a day.
Like we sat there, youphysically came to the studio,
you stood in lines, and then wepretty much had like at first it
(10:18):
was just an Excel spreadsheet.
Like you were just, you know,your name was put on a list for
that class or sure whatever, andit took hours of the day and
people of our day, but everybodyelse's day that had to come and
stand in line.
And you know, now it's like thatmorning, you know, somebody goes
on their computer and they pusha button and it opens up
(10:40):
registration for everybody.
Oh, the parent software isawesome, yeah.
So if um, you know, of course,we're available if anybody has
any questions about how toregister, if they're going into
the correct classroom um or not,but other than that, wow, like
just being able to do that is somuch easier.
SPEAKER_04 (10:58):
And um and it's like you said, so much bigger now
that you know it's as opposed totrying to make a phone call
every, you know, everythingthat's going on and stuff like
that.
It's it's you know, you're ableto connect a little more
widespread.
SPEAKER_03 (11:12):
Absolutely.
And we have an you know, we havethe app, which is you know, I
think is a great tool forparents and for our staff.
Everything can be in onelocation.
So that's great.
I would have never thought whenwe first started that we would
be like, I don't know, we haveonline registration and you can
you know pay online and you canschedule online and you can, you
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know, all of these these thingsif we try to communicate, it's
like that would be you know apush notification versus right,
right.
SPEAKER_06 (11:40):
So it's 20 years from now we'll laugh at this.
Right, right.
SPEAKER_04 (11:45):
But it gives a little more of a reach too, that
you know, um it I think in thebeginning a little more uh
smaller group of parents, andthen you know, parents can come
from kind of a bit further awaybecause you do have a little
more of that reach forconnectivity.
SPEAKER_06 (12:05):
You got anything new this upcoming year?
Any like any classes or any um Iknow you offer a lot, maybe not.
A little bit, right?
So I mean to have something newwould be crazy.
unknown (12:20):
Right.
SPEAKER_06 (12:20):
Um it's like what haven't you already built in?
SPEAKER_03 (12:23):
That's right.
Well, um, I guess not anythingparticularly new.
Uh I'll probably leave here andbe like, oh I know we have this
one really big new thing.
Why didn't I mention that?
Uh but you know, pretty muchjust our our pretty standard
classes.
We do have a few new uh teachersstaff joining us this year.
Very exciting.
It is very exciting.
They are all really wonderful.
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They've been with us, uh, youknow, going through a lot of
training and different thingsover the summer.
You know, we uh we have someextensive uh, you know, just
like with our staff with ourWi-Pad training and the gym
coaches were up there doing somesafe spot training last night.
Uh, some of our staff went awayto USAG this summer for uh
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gymnastics, and some of theteachers went to a conference.
So I think we all just have lotsof like just new ideas from
where we were uh working on allthat over the summer.
So hopefully that's the newstuff that we're bringing into
the studio this year.
Yeah.
That'll be neat.
I mean, I know for me, like Iwent and took classes for like a
(13:26):
week this summer in Connecticut,and some of it's stuff you
already know, but then some ofit's not, and some of it's
always stuff that you could berefreshed on.
So it's just wonderful to beable to take some like you time
and try to improve what you'redoing.
SPEAKER_06 (13:40):
Yeah, call it professional development.
That's right.
That's right.
SPEAKER_02 (13:45):
Absolutely.
SPEAKER_04 (13:46):
And you know, that does kind of lead into the next
kind of question that we've puton here for what the role of of
dance in the community building.
Um, there's so much that y'alldo that is part of just putting
the arts in the community andthings like that.
SPEAKER_06 (14:04):
Um outreach program.
SPEAKER_04 (14:06):
Yes, all the programs that are kind of part
of dance, but they're a littlebit also kind of broadening it
into certain things like the uhdancing with the stars coming up
and all of that.
Yes, you know, it it just addsso much, it adds that community
feel.
And so that's a leadingquestion, but you know, that I
enjoy that you you see that thatbuilding of community also.
SPEAKER_03 (14:30):
Oh, absolutely.
Yeah, well, I think um as far asour role in the dance, you know,
in the community with dance, Ithink we try to make the arts a
little more accessible.
So I think being able to havelocal productions that are a
little easier than maybe getinto Richmond or Raleigh or
something like that to be ableto see the Nutcracker or some
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kind of ballet performance or umthink that is a big thing that
we contribute.
Another, like you said, dancingwith the stars that's coming up
here soon.
We're super excited about that.
And I love it dancing with thestars because you know, when
people are like, Oh, how did youget so-and-so to to do it?
(15:12):
And it always brings like somesurprising people to the stage
who maybe never very, verysurprising people, and a lot of
times they get there, and youknow, we had someone say the
other night, like, you know, I'mactually having fun doing this.
I'm like, Well, why'd you sayactually?
Of course you're having fun,like this is fun.
Why aren't you having fun?
(15:32):
Um, Jason had Jason said that hewas very surprised.
SPEAKER_05 (15:36):
Yeah, having never really danced at all.
SPEAKER_03 (15:41):
And Jason did a fantastic job when he was
dancing with the stars.
SPEAKER_06 (15:45):
I was surprised I said yes, but you did catch me
in an evening after a couplejourneys.
SPEAKER_03 (15:48):
So that's when I try to catch people.
SPEAKER_06 (15:50):
Right, right.
Right, right about 7.20 in theevening, send a message.
Hey, we were thinking you wouldbe awesome and great if you
could join us.
And it's like, I am awesome andgreat.
You're right.
SPEAKER_04 (16:07):
You're right.
You did very well.
Very neat to see that.
To see what y'all turned himinto, because I know he's got
two left beings.
SPEAKER_06 (16:17):
Being a dance dad, it was interesting to experience
um, you know, a lot of thethings that watching my girls do
on stage, they do it a lotbetter and more graceful and
they're more beautiful.
Um, but you know, just it'slike, oh, so you know, that
that's uh a great vine.
Uh that's uh whatever, you know,and it's just kind of neat to
(16:41):
not be just sitting in the chairwatching, but actually, hey, I'm
up here doing something.
So minus being uh in the livingroom while they're trying to
train you into the alreadykitchen, it's like let's come to
the kitchen, you can slidebetter.
SPEAKER_03 (16:56):
It's like let me show you this new dance move.
SPEAKER_06 (16:59):
Right.
SPEAKER_03 (17:00):
Well, and you always get surprised because I think
every year someone in the castwho is a star with you know,
seemingly you know, no danceexperience, and they'll be like,
Oh, I have this special movethat I can do.
It's like, what?
Like, I can do a full split, andthen just you know, trap it to a
full split.
Like, okay, well, now I knowwe're putting a full split in
(17:21):
your dance.
Right?
SPEAKER_06 (17:22):
Secret move unlocked.
SPEAKER_03 (17:23):
Secret move unlocked.
You know, someone this year waslike, oh no, I do cartwheels all
the time.
I was like, in heels?
Yeah.
unknown (17:29):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (17:30):
Whipping them out across the stage.
I'm like, okay.
SPEAKER_04 (17:32):
Here we go.
Tell you what, that's awesome.
SPEAKER_03 (17:34):
Um and Nutcracker is the same, you know.
If we need parents, you know,you always need adults for the
party scene, and sometimesthey're hard to come by, so you
have to, you know, pull teethuntil you get some people into
it.
And a lot of them are parentswho are already there because
their kids are in the scene, sothen they'll be like, okay, yes.
(17:55):
You're right, I'm here already.
SPEAKER_05 (17:56):
Sure.
SPEAKER_03 (17:57):
But then they come in and I think they they end up
enjoying it.
Sure.
I I do think it kind of atleaves at least gives them an
appreciation for what we'redoing and uh involvement with
the community as far as thatgoes.
SPEAKER_04 (18:08):
So sometimes appreciation for how hard, you
know, some of the dance movesare and just how much work it
takes and what they you know,what what the our girls in
particular, you know, like thethe time commitment and the the
effort that it takes to toreally knock those out.
Yeah.
And then once you see it, it'slike, yes, you did it.
You know, absolutely.
SPEAKER_06 (18:29):
It's like the the thing you've seen them practice
200 times and they're on stageand you know the moment's coming
and they nail it and they kindof look out at you.
Oh and and it's just a goodfeeling, but yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (18:37):
It does, it makes your heart sore when you see it.
SPEAKER_06 (18:39):
That's great.
SPEAKER_04 (18:40):
Absolutely.
And then the the adults beingable to see that like in the
actual doing, you know, andgoing, oh wow, you know, I have
to practice.
SPEAKER_05 (18:49):
Right.
SPEAKER_03 (18:50):
Oh yeah.
And then, you know, it's onething to sit in the audience and
kind of see a show and just kindof like assume what's happening
backstage, but then it's anotherto actually be involved in that,
you know, and you're realizingyour parents, yeah, or all of a
sudden to the side of the stage,or you know, and they're handing
props to kids as they're gone.
Like, oh my gosh, I didn't knowall this was happening.
(19:10):
Oh, there's a quick change.
This kid only has like 90seconds to change before they
have to be back on the stage.
Like, you know, oh, watch out,the the sleigh is coming on
stage, being able to move out ofthe way.
Right?
So yeah.
SPEAKER_06 (19:25):
I am sure.
SPEAKER_04 (19:26):
Mother ginger comes to the skirt, yeah.
SPEAKER_06 (19:33):
That's always impressive.
I just so impressive.
Like shriek like a like a littlegirl out of excitement.
It's like, ah, it is silly.
Oh my gosh.
That's good.
So I mean, um, if you if yousomething comes to mind, if not,
it's fine, we can move on.
But um, a small town moment thatyou've experienced at your
studio, like, do you have afavorite?
SPEAKER_03 (19:54):
Oh, well, I don't know if I have a favorite, but
you know, at the studio we do aninitiative that's called uh, you
know, pay it forward.
So a lot of our kids are um theydo it either on their own or
they're a member of our likeensemble or professional
program, in which it's arequirement to be a part of
those teams.
And basically they just have toeither volunteer their time,
(20:16):
they have to host a drive, theyhave to do something that kind
of encourages communityinvolvement in some capacity.
SPEAKER_05 (20:24):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (20:24):
So just a couple, you know, things have happened
over the years that are just youknow, just like the sweetest
things where you feel like it'sdance, but it's not necessarily
dance, it's community, likewe're trying to make good
people.
And you know, we have this onekid, he comes to every single
litter pickup that we have, andhe always wants to get like the
(20:45):
most trash out of the like youknow, buckets or it last time we
were out, it was a tire, and Iwas like, I really don't think I
can get this tire out of here,and he was just like determined
that we're a tire here.
When we get back, I want likethe biggest bags of trash so
everybody knows I picked up themost dinner when we were out.
Um, you know, so that was reallyspecial.
(21:06):
And another time, you know, wego to like the assisted living
facilities and um do someperformances and just kind of
see like the kids light upbecause you know it brings so
much joy to the residents, anduh you know, so that's really
sweet.
I think they kind of realize howspecial what they're doing is
right when um they can do thingslike that.
(21:27):
So that's a great opportunity tobring that to Yeah.
The residents love it, the kidslove it, they get to, you know,
at Christmas or the holidays orspring, you know, we'll bring
cards or gifts or something, andthey kind of go to all the rooms
and drop off gifts and talk tothe residents, and it's like
such a special moment.
(21:49):
That's right.
SPEAKER_06 (21:50):
So well, I mean, when you sign up for dance,
you're signing up for so muchmore.
I mean, the character educationand a lot a lot of these skills
working with other people, andyou know, it's it's incredible
to see the growth of our youthum through your program.
I mean, and I can speak for myinter for sure, but um you know,
(22:11):
people forget that you know it'sit's not just dance, but uh you
know, it is part of a communityand it's part of just a you know
a collaborative learningenvironment.
SPEAKER_04 (22:23):
Which is you know huge.
Yeah, definitely and and againlike we're talking about with
the the those uh little dancemoves that you have to work
really hard on, you know, thatthat gives that strength of
character too, the making thatwork and that kind of thing.
So, you know, it's really yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (22:41):
I mean, you have to assume we want to teach
everybody as if they want to goon and pursue dance afterwards,
but not everybody's gonna wantsto go off to be a professional
dancer.
That might not be their goal.
Their goal is they want to dancebecause it's it's fun, you know,
it brings you joy, it's greatexercise, your friends are
there, we're you know, we're asecond home.
(23:03):
It's hopefully teaching youconfidence, teamwork, right?
How to work under pressure, youknow.
Yes, yes, yes.
SPEAKER_04 (23:10):
How to work under pressure is an important thing
to learn.
Absolutely.
I'd be on stage.
I mean my kids are so great onjust like you know, walking on
stage, and it's not a big dealto them.
To me, I would be, you know,panic attack.
And to the you know, much older,this would not would not go as
well.
Absolutely.
SPEAKER_03 (23:28):
But to them, it's second nature.
Yeah.
So you know, one day they'regoing in front of the class to
read a paper and hopefullythat's you know, we've given a
little bit of confidence.
SPEAKER_04 (23:38):
Yeah, they get a little more of a got this and
you know, a microphone in frontof their face or a you know,
something like that is a littleless intimidating because
they've already kind of they'ves you know stood in front of
everybody and you know andthey've proven to themselves I
can do this.
SPEAKER_06 (23:52):
Right.
This is just another challenge,yeah.
Yeah.
So I mean being apprehensive iscommon and normal for any of us.
I guess.
So um we know that we talk abouttechnology and that's kind of a
part of a theme of our podcastas well.
And dance and tech don't alwaysmix, but if you had a magic tech
(24:15):
tool that could make studio lifeeasier, um, what do you think it
would do?
This is like one of those leftfield questions.
SPEAKER_03 (24:23):
I know, let's see.
I think oh, like a robot thatcould take kids on their
bathroom breaks and everything.
Because once the potty trainstarts, it goes.
SPEAKER_06 (24:35):
Yeah, that's a that's a psychological being a
teacher, I certainly know that.
SPEAKER_03 (24:41):
Um and I don't even teach the the little littles
very often, but I know that's athing.
SPEAKER_01 (24:46):
Oh, it's a thing.
I've seen it.
SPEAKER_05 (24:48):
Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_01 (24:48):
Ours were started very young, and and yeah, yes.
One goes and they all drop andthey off.
We're like, oh, that's a goodidea.
I think I'll take one of thosebathroom breaks.
SPEAKER_06 (24:59):
Yeah, maybe we could have a pod and they go into it
like you know, like at the bank,and it goes and it just takes
them in the bathroom and thenbrings them right back safely.
SPEAKER_03 (25:08):
Yes, and hopefully it doesn't get stuck.
SPEAKER_06 (25:10):
Cray?
SPEAKER_03 (25:13):
It's the same with water breaks too.
As soon as the first one's like,Oh, I need some water.
SPEAKER_02 (25:17):
Right.
Yeah, yeah, can I get somewater?
SPEAKER_03 (25:18):
And it usually coincides with, all right, we're
gonna do push-ups.
Oh, right now it's really weird.
I'm like, I'm on to you guys.
I'm like, how about we do 10push-ups and we'll all take a
really quick water break andthen come back?
So um that's one, and then youknow, we were talking about all
(25:39):
the mirrors in the studioearlier before the podcast
started, and that would be agreat thing.
There's probably something thatexists, I don't know, but I just
wish it wasn't manual labor.
Right.
SPEAKER_04 (25:50):
Just something like the room that is like on top of
the mirror and then it squeegiesdown just every once in a while
when you don't think about it,and then all of a sudden
everything starts moving.
SPEAKER_03 (26:00):
Yes, because and you know, I have an appreciation for
clean mirrors because you know,a lot of times I do go in and
like clean them, and then I'll,you know, a kid in my class will
put their finger on it.
I'm like, I'm gonna go get you atowel and get that fingerprint
off.
But I mean it's such secondnature, like why wouldn't you
touch the mirrors?
But they they can never stayclean.
SPEAKER_06 (26:22):
So I mean, like in Alice in Wonderland, I mean that
was a quite the experience.
Oh, right, right, right.
SPEAKER_04 (26:31):
Oh, wait, I think we've all tried that.
Yeah, we all have.
Yes.
Can I go through the no, no, Ican't, apparently.
Not this one.
No.
SPEAKER_05 (26:39):
That's funny.
SPEAKER_06 (26:40):
Well, is there anything else you want to add?
Um, and then if you're up for agame, we'll probably transition
into that.
SPEAKER_03 (26:46):
Okay.
Well, I don't think I haveanything to add.
I'm not I'm not great at games,so hopefully we'd be fun.
SPEAKER_06 (26:54):
And I say I hope because you know, I I I I prayed
it went well last time uh we didone of these.
So, alright, so we're gonnabring our AI host back.
And uh, hey AI, can you explainthe bites and ballet game for us
and what we're gonna do?
SPEAKER_00 (27:10):
Absolutely.
So, our bites and ballet game isa fun little segment where we
take a term that's used in boththe tech world and the dance
world, and we see how theyoverlap or have different
meanings.
SPEAKER_06 (27:32):
Can you give us an example?
unknown (27:36):
Absolutely.
SPEAKER_00 (27:37):
So, for example, let's take the word private in
the dance world.
Explain that a private mightrefer to a major shift in a
company's strategy or a piece ofsoftware.
Changes direction to meet newgoals.
So it's the same word, but twototally different contexts, and
(27:57):
that's the fun of the game.
SPEAKER_04 (28:01):
That is really cool.
That is a discussion that myoldest and I had last night.
Oh, really?
She had pivot on her um list ofterms.
On vocabulary or something inthis.
And then she showed it to me indance.
Oh yes.
Uh uh, oh, this is a dance word.
SPEAKER_06 (28:18):
It all comes full circle.
SPEAKER_03 (28:19):
That's right.
SPEAKER_06 (28:20):
Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_03 (28:21):
Uh it was.
It was totally fine.
I know I was trying to think howcomplicated the ballet terms are
gonna get, but it stays in therealm of pivot, right?
SPEAKER_06 (28:30):
Okay.
Hopefully that wasn't the uh,you know, the easy ex, you know,
like in the math book, and it'slike, you know, here's example
one.
It's like, oh, that's easy, it'sone step.
And then you get like on numberthree, and you're like, oh my
gosh, it's a five-step problem.
Unfair.
So alright, we'll get startedwith it.
He's saying he was going toexplain it, but actually I was.
I think he's just trying to makeup for being off last week.
But um Alright, AR, can you giveus our first uh term?
unknown (28:56):
Absolutely.
Let's kick it off.
All right, our first term isgonna be balance.
SPEAKER_06 (29:01):
So much almost tell us about how balance is all
about maintaining your own.
No, you're not gonna be able todo it.
SPEAKER_00 (29:08):
Making sure you don't tip over during a pure
way.
And on the tech side, I'd saybalance can be something like
local.
SPEAKER_06 (29:19):
All right, AI, let's play bites and ballet, but just
give us a term, we will end upgiving the answers.
SPEAKER_00 (29:29):
You got it.
All right, let's dive.
I'll leave it to you both toshare what that means in each of
your worlds.
SPEAKER_03 (29:39):
All right, well, a bar, we would spell it
B-A-R-R-E.
SPEAKER_05 (29:43):
I knew that was coming.
unknown (29:45):
Yep.
SPEAKER_03 (29:46):
And uh, I mean it's used primarily in a ballet
class.
It would be a source of balance,not necessarily for weight
placement, but we do a wholesegment that would be at the bar
where you would do a series ofexercises.
Exercises like plies, tendus,rondajans, all of that.
And I I don't actually teachballet, I teach jazz, you know,
(30:09):
I would use them in jazz classfor like um extension exercises
or flexibility, something likethat.
So it's just a tool we usewithin the classroom.
SPEAKER_06 (30:16):
Yeah, yeah.
So I guess in the tech world,um, in design, a bar can be like
a horizontal rule, um, adividing thing.
Of course, we all know theloading bar, giving you an idea
of progress or lack thereof.
Um and after you've beenspending a day making websites
and programming, you're probablygoing to go visit the bar.
(30:37):
But um, that's different too.
So should we tell him what wethink and him congratulate us or
we'll see.
All right.
Alright, AI.
Michelle was referring to thebar, like B-A-R-R-E, and its use
in different dance um programs.
(30:58):
I was talking about bar in thetech world, like the loading
bar, it's using design and soforth, but that's enough.
What do you think?
Did we do okay?
unknown (31:07):
Absolutely.
SPEAKER_00 (31:08):
You both both nailed it.
That's exactly the fun of it.
Michelle covered the ballet barperfectly, and you brought in
the tech angle with the loadingbar.
It's a great combo ofperspectives.
So you definitely did awesome.
SPEAKER_06 (31:19):
Alright, give us our next word.
Only the word.
unknown (31:22):
Alright.
SPEAKER_00 (31:23):
You got it.
Your next word is turnout.
SPEAKER_03 (31:29):
Okay, well, our Jason's thank hand.
Yeah.
All right.
Um loading bar is turnout refersto um, so in dance, especially
in ballet, but you would seethis in other styles of dance as
well.
But it's the ability to, I'mtrying to define it without
(31:51):
actually just repeating the wordturnout.
Right.
But it's a way of from your hipflexors of turning your muscles
into an outward position.
So instead of your feet and legsfacing a forward parallel
position that they rotateoutward into a, you know, the
dream is 180 degrees, of course.
(32:14):
Um that is pretty muchprofessional as you are dancing
with, you know, New York orsomething.
SPEAKER_06 (32:21):
But I've no idea how to summarize it when uh uh we go
to a uh but uh in the tech worldturnout simply can be the
response to like a function uhor um the result of something.
But alright, let me see.
(32:42):
Maybe maybe you could I'm gonnacan you briefly respond back to
what it was?
Alright.
Okay, AI.
Michelle's going to explain herpart.
unknown (32:53):
Go ahead.
SPEAKER_03 (32:54):
Okay, so uh turnout is uh the ballet term for
turning the muscles from our hipflexors down to our feet into an
outward position from parallel.
SPEAKER_06 (33:05):
Alright, and on the tech side, turnout can be like
the result or the response,especially with a function or
program.
unknown (33:16):
Exactly.
That's a perfect breakdown fromboth sides.
SPEAKER_00 (33:18):
So Michelle's got the dance definition spot on.
It's all about rotating thosehips and legs outward in ballet,
and on the tech side, thinkingof turnout as the outcome or the
result that you get from afunction or program is a cool
parallel.
You both did great with Helen.
SPEAKER_06 (33:33):
All right, give us one more.
Um don't make it well, make itmore challenging, but be kind to
us.
Just give us one more word.
SPEAKER_00 (33:43):
You got it.
I'll pick a slightly trickierone, but still keep it fun.
Your next word is pa de shah.
So let you two figure out thedance and text adds of that one.
SPEAKER_04 (33:52):
Oh man.
SPEAKER_03 (33:53):
Oh man, I've heard that word so many times.
SPEAKER_06 (33:56):
I'm screwed on this one.
SPEAKER_03 (33:57):
Well, pas de shah is a uh term and it primarily is
used in ballet, but I also do itin jazz.
I just do it stylized slightlydifferent.
It's actually called the step ofthe cat.
So it's oh that makes sense.
Yeah.
So uh I wish I could demonstrateon a podcast, but that would be
(34:19):
a little tricky.
But one leg is going to come upthrough a passe position and
jump as the other leg passesthrough a passe position and
closes.
So it goes from one leg down tothe leg.
SPEAKER_06 (34:31):
Yes.
Yeah, I've seen that.
SPEAKER_04 (34:33):
You know, in Joe, our oldest will just kind of
spit out, you know, oh, you knowwhat potasha.
I mean, she'll potasha from thestove to the place.
But it's wonderful that you do.
That's right.
unknown (34:45):
That's right.
SPEAKER_06 (34:47):
In the tech world, I'm stumped.
Um, I've never, I mean, so I'mtrying to think of what that
would do in the dance world onhow you could translate, like,
just like pivot, obviously, youknow.
Yeah.
SPEAKER_03 (34:58):
Step at a cat, I don't know.
SPEAKER_04 (35:00):
So slowly step into something, like maybe jump over
it?
SPEAKER_06 (35:07):
Or or is it like some type of trick?
You know, it's like uh you'rethinking it's you're doing this,
but you're in fact gonnaactually do this, you know.
SPEAKER_04 (35:19):
Something that happens when you get tired of
your tech and you just throw itacross the room.
That could be.
That's we can all experience it.
There's always that possibility.
SPEAKER_06 (35:29):
Yeah.
Alright, well, um, Michelle,have you explain what Potasha
means in however degree ofdetail, and then I'm gonna tell
it something.
unknown (35:42):
Alright.
SPEAKER_03 (35:43):
Okay.
Uh potasha would be a step inballet in which we jump going
through passe on one leg,landing through passe.
I did not describe that verywell.
Be kind to me, AI.
SPEAKER_06 (35:59):
Alright, so she she definitely knew it and she
explained the step of the catand everything and demonstrated
it for us.
Um as far as the tech worldthough, I really have no idea.
So Michelle wins this game.
You go ahead and tell me what itmeans on the tech side.
SPEAKER_00 (36:20):
Absolutely.
And props to Michelle fornailing the ballet side.
Pad ishaw is indeed that lovelystep of the cat jump.
And you're right, it's notreally a common tech term at
all.
So Michelle definitely wins thisround.
Sometimes they're just not atech equivalent, and that's the
fun of the game.
So great job to both of you.
SPEAKER_06 (36:36):
So the fun of the game is you tricked me.
SPEAKER_03 (36:38):
Tricky, tricky, uh yeah, that's what's that.
But I'll take a win.
unknown (36:47):
I guess I did sneak a little trick in there just to
keep it fun.
SPEAKER_00 (36:51):
You both did awesome with it.
And I promise I'll keep it alittle more straightforward next
time.
unknown (36:55):
Thanks for playing along.
SPEAKER_04 (36:57):
I liked my answer.
Throwing it across the room.
Yeah, that's that's next time Iwant to throw something across
the room.
I'm gonna say potasha.
SPEAKER_06 (37:04):
Yeah, so when someone brings a computer here
that isn't working anymore, do Ijust okay, so what is that, a
pot of shaw?
And they're like, what?
Is that a virus?
It's like you could just kind ofit's what you did to your
computer.
Right.
Oh man.
Well, that was funny.
Explaining it without explainingit.
Exactly.
I like it.
Yep.
SPEAKER_01 (37:23):
And I'll know because now I'm gonna be in on
it.
Right, you'll be in on it, so wewon't be able to do it, Tara.
SPEAKER_06 (37:28):
That's right.
This is how rumors get started.
SPEAKER_04 (37:32):
And and whoever listened to the podcast will be
out of the time.
SPEAKER_06 (37:34):
Right.
Yeah, you see me in the grocerystore and say pot de chat, which
nod at each other.
I'm gonna cut it.
So hope that was fun, Michelle.
SPEAKER_02 (37:42):
Yes, yes, that was.
I was a little nervous.
I thought, I was like, if itgets too technical, I was gonna
get a little nervous.
SPEAKER_06 (37:48):
Like, okay, well, it's like uh right, it's um it
comes from the French.
It's it's me.
SPEAKER_02 (37:55):
It's hard to explain in words.
Right, right.
SPEAKER_06 (37:58):
Right, but I can demonstrate it for you, right?
Yep.
So good.
Alright, well, again, Michelle,we want to thank you for being
on our podcast this week.
Absolutely.
SPEAKER_04 (38:09):
Thank you for taking time out of your busy schedule.
Thank you for having me.
It was a lot of fun.
SPEAKER_06 (38:13):
Definitely a busy time of year.
So we're gonna be signing offwired together here, and we just
thank everyone for theirsupport.
Um, please follow and share ourpodcasts.
You know, they're on yourfavorite channels YouTube,
Spotify, Apple Podcasts, AmazonMusic, iHeartRadio, and others.
So, unplugging for now.
SPEAKER_04 (38:34):
But always stay connected.
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