August 7, 2025 • 35 mins
In this episode, we debut our brand-new tech game: Roast or Toast 🔥🥂 — where we take a stroll through gadgets past and present and decide which deserve applause… and which need to be retired for good.
From floppy disks to VR headsets to the trusty flip phone, you’ll laugh, reminisce, and maybe even argue with us in your car.
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SPEAKER_04 (00:05):
All right.
Welcome again.
Uh this is our fifth episode ofum Wired Together with Winternet
Web Technologies with your Yeah,we do know the name.
Yes, we found the name.
Uh it is on AI, it is all over.
Um it is Google searchable.
(00:27):
It's um a little bit scarilyexciting.
SPEAKER_05 (00:30):
Yeah, it was just kind of like all right, let me
just type in wired togetherbecause I was actually trying to
find the page where it wasembedded and all that mess, and
then it came up with the wholething about wired together as a
podcast by Jason Mellonie.
And we're like, uh oh, that'scrazy.
We've been found.
SPEAKER_04 (00:46):
We've been found.
Um, so that is really excitingfor us.
We are um really excited afterthis fifth episode.
We're gonna hopefully get intosome more um interviews, maybe
some uh local small business andthings like that.
So um as we keep going, we'retrying to change it up a little
(01:08):
bit.
Uh we did come up with a fungame though, um something that
we could also uh incorporate AIand and um go into our
technological world of of justwhat's what you're able to do.
SPEAKER_05 (01:23):
Right, it's crazy the technology.
SPEAKER_04 (01:26):
So um so the game we would like to introduce is um
the uh tech roast or toast.
So um AI is gonna join us.
Uh roast, of course, meanssomething that um he's gonna
come up with a product or a umsomething in the tech industry
(01:47):
um software, that sort of thing.
And then we will roast it.
SPEAKER_05 (01:52):
So something maybe we're like, ah, yes, overrated
or overrated, right?
SPEAKER_04 (01:57):
Or toast it, uh you know, cheers, you know, clicks
glasses, that kind of thing.
So um we'll we'll start withthat and then we'll go into um a
little bit of maybe what'scoming up.
SPEAKER_05 (02:11):
All right, good deal.
All right, little co-host, youcooperate with me here.
So all right.
Hey AI, let's play tech roast ortoast.
SPEAKER_00 (02:24):
All right, let's do it.
I'll give you a piece of techand you let me know if it's a
roast or a toast.
How about the classic floppydisc?
Is it a nostalgic toast or arewe roasting it for its tiny
storage capacity?
SPEAKER_04 (02:39):
Oh, that one's mean.
I can't help what it was.
SPEAKER_05 (02:43):
Did you have to say tiny?
That's um I mean flash drivesare even smaller.
I mean, a lot of this is Yeah,but they store more.
Yeah, I mean gosh, I rememberthe low density was 720
megabytes, then the high densityof 1.404.
Then you had like a double highdensity.
They were trying to almost likereally go with how much you
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could fit on that size.
I mean, I'm looking over at astack of them I still have.
I have a lot of my childhood onthese things.
SPEAKER_04 (03:18):
It really To me it it's it's equates a what,
cassette tape, uh Right.
I mean it LP that could be.
SPEAKER_05 (03:28):
It was the era.
Right.
It's what it's what you had andbought.
SPEAKER_04 (03:31):
I'd be all ready to toast.
SPEAKER_05 (03:33):
I I am too.
SPEAKER_04 (03:34):
I mean it's a bridge, you know.
SPEAKER_05 (03:36):
It is.
SPEAKER_04 (03:37):
And um just like the A-track, you know, bridging into
the cassette, exactly, whichbridges into the CD, you know.
SPEAKER_05 (03:45):
Well the C D killed the floppy.
Right, because it could holdlike 400 and some megabytes,
which was reburning and thatsort of thing.
So then the rewritable came, butyeah.
Rewrite, yeah.
Alright, so I I yeah, I I agree.
I'm I'm I think it's worthtoasting.
SPEAKER_04 (04:05):
Toast the technology of the time.
Let's do it.
SPEAKER_05 (04:07):
You want to toast together?
Let's toast it.
Alright, so if anyone can pickup on that, um, we're trying to
find sounds that would uh berelevant for toasting.
And clinking of glasses andcheering sound was okay, but um
take this little nostalgic bitfor you.
(04:30):
Alright.
Let's see what else he's gothere.
Um all right, give us anotherone, buddy.
Roaster toast.
SPEAKER_00 (04:40):
Alright, let's keep it going.
How about the original NintendoEntertainment System?
The NES.
Are we toasting it for being apioneer in the gaming world or
roasting it for those old schoolgraphics?
SPEAKER_05 (04:52):
Oh my gosh.
SPEAKER_04 (04:53):
There is no no, that is a toast and a half.
Yeah, I mean it's pioneer isYeah.
SPEAKER_05 (05:01):
8-bit.
This is our childhood.
My gosh, you I could talk foreasily the entire rest of this
podcast, and I'm not going tobe.
There are squirrels, but thenthis is like a nest of squirrels
would be coming out.
The NES was just transformative.
(05:23):
I mean, um it got one at fiveyears old, and um it really led
to what I do today.
SPEAKER_04 (05:33):
Five.
SPEAKER_05 (05:33):
Yeah, we had five goodness gracious.
It it it came out had no idea itexpected.
It came out like eighty four,eighty-five, but wow in of
course in the US, um, you know,eighty-eight and you know, I
guess.
SPEAKER_04 (05:47):
Down here in Southside Virginia took a bit
longer.
SPEAKER_05 (05:51):
Yeah, but the the other cool tidbit for anybody
out there, and of course,everyone, Nintendo became
ubiquitous for any gamingsystem, you know.
It's you know, the whole memesout there, like your mom's like,
you know, um, are you playingyour Nintendo?
And you could have a Sega.
It doesn't matter.
Nintendo was the name they knew.
But Kleenex.
Right, Kleenex, exactly.
(06:12):
Right.
But Nintendo being a strangeword, it actually, as a Japanese
company in the late 1800s, was aum playing card company, and
they made playing cards likeHoyle or these other things.
So it's interesting that like ahundred years later, they're
still in the gaming industry.
Anyway, neat little tidbit.
(06:32):
But with all that said, yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (06:34):
Funny with the things we decided to make as
noises for roast and toast thatNintendo got picked up on.
SPEAKER_05 (06:43):
Yeah, Nintendo's there.
Uh, for sure.
We'll get into that.
So, yeah.
I maybe we should ask AI what hethinks.
All right.
SPEAKER_04 (06:52):
But that's a huge toast.
SPEAKER_05 (06:53):
Alright, so we're gonna toast it.
Uh, what are your thoughts?
And don't be political and say,oh, well, you know, whatever.
Just go ahead and give it to us.
Would you roast or toast this?
SPEAKER_00 (07:05):
I'm definitely in the toast camp on this one.
The NES was such a game changerand robbed so much to it to
people.
Sure, the graphics are retro,but that's part of its charm.
SPEAKER_04 (07:15):
Absolutely.
There you go.
SPEAKER_05 (07:19):
There we go.
Got the proper toast.
All right.
Let's go for another one.
This thing's making a noise now.
I want to unmute him now.
Alright, give us another one.
Let's keep going.
SPEAKER_00 (07:33):
All right, let's see what we've got next.
How about the good old faxmachine?
Are we toasting it for its rolein revolutionizing office
communication back in the day,or are we roasting it for being
a bit of a dinosaur in today'sdigital age?
SPEAKER_04 (07:49):
The idea, sure, there's a toast there, but um
the consistent using is uh a bitof a roast for me.
SPEAKER_05 (07:59):
It was frustrating.
I mean, especially when you hada stack of like we would have to
fax like I was in I was in gradschool and I had to fax a stack
like 45 pages from one part ofthe campus.
Gosh, this sounds like adinosaur now.
One part of the college campusto another part.
(08:22):
And now that I think about it,why we couldn't just scan an
email.
But anyway, I had my stack, Ihad, you know, you had to fill
out the little cover sheet toand from all that, you know,
which I mean it could have beenlike two from subject of the
email, but and then send it off,and sometimes you would have
errors, sometimes, you know,there would be problems.
But I will say, the fax machinecame in my favor one time when I
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was living on a uh oh hey Jock,you're hearing this?
Um, when we were live when I wasliving in an apartment at
Virginia Tech, there was someissue, I can't remember the
issue, it had to do was itplumbing, electric, something.
And I wanted them to come fixit.
So I called them and calledthem, you know, yeah, we got
(09:07):
your name and number, we'llcall, you know, get back to you.
And after about a week or two,I'm like, fine.
Um, this isn't working.
So I took a piece of blackconstruction paper and with
whiteout wrote my phone numberon it.
And I've faxed it to them everyfive minutes.
Will you believe it?
(09:28):
I got a phone call, and theywere like, look, okay, we'll be
there later this afternoon.
Stop draining our toner.
SPEAKER_02 (09:38):
Right.
Toner so important.
SPEAKER_05 (09:41):
Technological win.
I figured, look, let me hit itwhere it hurts.
They're gonna vote me.
So anyway, that's um that's afunny story related to the fax
machine.
So I mean, it it was beforescanning and email had its
place.
I mean, it's a dinosaur now, butyou know, it it did its job.
SPEAKER_04 (09:57):
So could we did spend some time roasting it
though, so can we can weconsider it roasted for all
right?
SPEAKER_05 (10:04):
Look, I'll be glad to roast a fax machine or a
printer or anything.
SPEAKER_04 (10:08):
So NES will still play, but fax machine machine,
we're done.
SPEAKER_05 (10:12):
Yeah, fax machine, get rid of it.
Roast it boosts boo hissed.
Okay, all right, so we'reroasting it.
Oh, okay.
Fax machine died.
Huzzah, that's great.
SPEAKER_03 (10:23):
This is our roasting sound and that really relates to
what we were just talking aboutwith NES.
SPEAKER_05 (10:29):
That's all right.
Yep.
All right, give us another one,buddy.
SPEAKER_00 (10:34):
All right, here we go.
How about virtual realityheadsets?
Are we toasting them forbringing immersive experiences
into our homes or roasting themfor still being a bit bulky and
pricey?
I have pricey, bulky, glitchy.
SPEAKER_04 (10:48):
I think I've heard I mean, I I think they're we're
we're not there yet for uh uhregular home consumption kind of
thing.
SPEAKER_05 (10:58):
Well, the yeah, because it's like this optimist
headset, and I'm talking like Ireally know much about it.
I mean, it's really has gottenbetter.
SPEAKER_04 (11:07):
I've never experienced one, so you know a
lot of people that are um I knowpeople who have them and it's
it's kind of causes a bit ofvertigo.
SPEAKER_05 (11:18):
Oh really?
SPEAKER_04 (11:19):
Yeah, this out of reality kind of feel that's not
I know a lot of people that areout of reality that don't even
use them, so I think we're Ithink we're not there as far as
you know, just like the PC, ittook a bit for that to be
something in the home.
Right.
SPEAKER_05 (11:36):
Yeah, and I mean yeah, the price point is
difficult.
SPEAKER_04 (11:38):
In the home um because of expense and because
of, you know, just wonky.
SPEAKER_05 (11:44):
Yeah, I mean it's I mean you put these things on,
you're in this in this world,but also you're running into the
wall.
I mean, no, again, it I think itwill improve.
I think if it could become morehologramic, so it wasn't over
your eyes, but you could seesomething, but also know where
your actual natural boundariesare, some way hybriding that
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would really make it better.
SPEAKER_04 (12:09):
When CGI was first starting, um I I remember them
talking about Shrek.
SPEAKER_05 (12:14):
Oh yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (12:15):
Shrek was um they had gotten to the point it was
so realistic, it was not itlooked fake.
It looked more fake than makingit slightly more animated.
Right.
Making it actually look better.
SPEAKER_05 (12:28):
Yep, exactly.
SPEAKER_04 (12:29):
Um so that they had to kind of pull back on how real
they made Shrek just because ofit being harder to take for the
brain.
The brain's trying to fill toomuch in.
SPEAKER_05 (12:40):
And so I think we're and you're judging it based on
reality versus judging it basedon this looks neat and looks
right.
SPEAKER_04 (12:45):
You know, I think that's where we are with home
virtual reality.
It's not really it it's almosttoo real that it doesn't work.
SPEAKER_05 (12:53):
Right.
All right, let's bring AI in onthis.
All right, what are yourthoughts on roasting or toasting
this?
And again, don't get allpolitical on me.
Make a decision.
SPEAKER_00 (13:06):
I definitely toast virtual reality Ansex.
They're opening up amazing newworlds and experiences, even if
they're still a bit bulky.
It's exciting to see where thetech is headed.
SPEAKER_05 (13:15):
Well, what what do you see as the problems?
Cause I mean, we're we're we'relooking at maybe leaning toward
roasting, but we aren't werespect it, but what do you
think?
SPEAKER_00 (13:27):
I get that.
One of the main things peoplemight roast VR headsets for is
that they can still be a bit onthe heavy side and not the most
comfortable for extended use.
Plus, the cost can be a barrierfor a lot of folks, and and not
everyone loves being tethered toa divide here dealing with
motion sickness.
So there's definitely room forsome light roasting, even if the
tech itself is super cool.
SPEAKER_05 (13:50):
So you want to roast it together with us?
SPEAKER_00 (13:54):
Absolutely.
Let's do it.
unknown (13:55):
All right.
SPEAKER_00 (13:55):
We'll roast it for being a little clunky and
causing us to feel like we'vegot a penny jam or got on our
heads, not to mention theoccasional motion sickness.
But hey, we can still appreciatethe awesome experiences it gives
us, right?
Oh, there you go.
You got political, but anyway.
SPEAKER_05 (14:11):
All right, roast it.
I really I really just wanted tohear that again.
SPEAKER_04 (14:18):
I know, right?
SPEAKER_05 (14:19):
All right, so all right, give us another one.
SPEAKER_00 (14:24):
All right, let's keep the fun going.
How about we take a look at thegood old flip phone?
Are we toasting it for itsdurability and satisfying snap,
or are we roasting it for itstiny screens and lack of apps?
SPEAKER_04 (14:36):
Oh god, we could go either way with those.
SPEAKER_05 (14:38):
Alright, I'll tell you.
And anyone that's local.
All right, so David Farmer cameto our house and sold us the
flip phone when we were withAltel.
SPEAKER_04 (14:48):
God, your memory is crazy.
SPEAKER_05 (14:49):
Okay.
Um he probably came to our houseto see if there were any bears
in the backyard that he wantedto hunt.
But anyway, he was there to sellcell phones, and um I remember
it was some Motorola VZR.
SPEAKER_04 (15:06):
It was that first name any set of letters.
I'm not gonna remember.
SPEAKER_05 (15:10):
Right.
And it, I mean, I I felt like Iwas big time.
I mean, you had the flip phones,so you act, you know, cell
phones initially.
I mean, all right, go back tothe um, you know, traditional,
you know, wired phone.
When you hang up on somebody,especially the the rotary ones,
because that the bell would godrank.
I mean satisfying.
It's satisfying.
(15:31):
Yes, it's the Nokia brick, youknow, boop, okay.
You hung up on somebody, it'snot satisfying.
The flip phone, for some reason,that little clamshell, take your
hand, clip, you felt like youhung up on that person.
And that's not the reason why Igot the phone, but for some
reason, with the marketing ofthe time, you you open that boy
(15:51):
up, you're sitting there walkingand talking to somebody, you're
like, Yeah, man, I got this flipphone, you know.
SPEAKER_04 (15:57):
Yeah, I'm I'm gonna go with Toast because you know
it still felt like it didsomething when you hung up and
so you know, as opposed to justput pushing a little button or
something.
SPEAKER_05 (16:08):
All phones now look the same.
SPEAKER_04 (16:09):
Really, it's not even a button anymore, it's just
the screen.
So it's you kind of get thisfeeling of that hardwired
feeling.
Right, exactly.
You know, in marketing gap um imall marketing, you know, the
the clicking of um high heels onthe wood floor.
Extremely important.
Um so the wall the floor has toreally match that because it it
(16:31):
gives this empower empowermentfor women and um or the clicking
of heels at all or of shoes.
So uh both genders could, youknow, kind of get this feeling.
SPEAKER_05 (16:42):
Yeah, if you're wearing dress shoes, you feel
you hear that.
SPEAKER_04 (16:44):
That that very mechanical flip up, flip-out,
you know.
I I think that's I'm I'm gonnasay worth toasting.
SPEAKER_05 (16:51):
Yeah, I'd say so too.
But um in today, all phonespretty much are the same.
It's all maximized the amount ofscreen space, it's flat, it's a
large um, you know, the largescreen at like a flat candy bar,
if you will.
And um I think we have lost,though, the creativity in
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development and aestheticsbecause everyone has now
navigated to what our phoneslook like now.
The flip phone and some of thoseother phones at that time with a
keyboard that might slide down,things like that, turn it
sideways, this spins around, allof those things were really cool
at the time.
We need to get back to that.
SPEAKER_04 (17:32):
So there was a bridge there as far as still uh
allowing you to feel like you'repushing something.
SPEAKER_05 (17:37):
Well, yeah, but you bought a phone based on what it
did and how cool it was.
Now you're just buying it basedon what provider you have and
what their next thing thatthey're giving you.
That's so fair point, fairpoint.
Um Apple, Samsung, and whoeverelse, step it up.
All right.
Um, but we are going to toastthe flip phone.
Yes.
(17:58):
Yep.
unknown (17:59):
Toasty!
SPEAKER_05 (18:00):
There we go, toasty.
SPEAKER_03 (18:01):
Very exciting.
SPEAKER_05 (18:02):
Alright, we toasted a flip phone.
We thought it was really cool.
And hey, what do you think aboutthe fact that cell phones back
then with this flip phone withthe extendable keyboard, this
some of them they kind of turnedand did different things, how
the creativity was really inthat time.
Nowadays, the smartphones alllook the same.
(18:23):
What are your thoughts?
SPEAKER_00 (18:27):
I totally agree.
There was a lot of creativityand variety back in the flip
phone era.
It was fun to see all thosedifferent designs and features
like sliding keyboards or phonesthat could swivel.
It definitely made each devicefeel unique.
But uh yeah, it's it'sinteresting how phones back then
had so much variety andpersonality.
Each one had its own littletwist, and it was fun to see all
(18:48):
the different features they cameup with.
But there's definitely somethingto appreciate about the sleek
and consistent design of today'ssmartphones, too.
SPEAKER_05 (18:56):
I love how he just loves everything.
Um very PC.
Right, very PC.
I've got to train that out ofthe droid now.
Make an opinion.
Okay.
All right, so I guess we go havean opinion, it's just facts.
Oh, I know that.
Yep.
All right.
Let's let's do another one.
All right, throw another one atus.
SPEAKER_00 (19:18):
All right, let's do another one.
How about the trusty old desktopcomputer?
Are we toasting it for its powerand upgradability, or are we
roasting it for not being asportable and sleek as our Martin
gadgets?
SPEAKER_05 (19:33):
Really depends on what you're using it for.
I mean, I will say when it comesto computers, heat is the enemy.
Yeah, heat degrades the internalcomponents, slows things down,
and eventually kills yourcomputer.
Laptops.
Oh, I know.
Laptops, while very convenientto move around, they're in in
(19:53):
itty bitty living space.
SPEAKER_02 (19:55):
Itty bitty living space.
SPEAKER_05 (19:57):
So a desktop, of course, as anyone will know, is
obviously, you know, muchlarger.
The air can flow.
Um performance-wise, a desktopwould outperform a laptop um
with similar components.
And, you know, it it has theability to do that because of
its cooling factor.
(20:19):
We don't lug a desktop around todo stuff.
Um in the traditional homeoffice is becoming less and less
because of the convenience of,oh, let me flip this mon, you
know, the close the laptop, pickit up, throw it in my bag, and
go.
Um we are more mobile.
SPEAKER_04 (20:39):
But we're losing intention though.
I mean, you know, when this is abit of a stretching wild, but um
we live in a farmhouse, and soum it is as opposed to modern
day housing where you've got theum kind of the mega room, what
do you call that?
SPEAKER_05 (20:58):
Uh well it's like the uh you're talking about the
living room, the main room, thelarge living space in the in the
front.
SPEAKER_04 (21:04):
Um where we are um living in a house where it's
it's very piecemeal because ofcourse heating and cooling makes
more sense in um that timeperiod of each room in the
compartmentalized.
So it's a compartmentalized, andso one thing I actually love
about that is um to be in theliving room is extremely
intentional.
(21:25):
You're not you don't just sohappen to be in the living room,
you're not just so happened tobe in there.
SPEAKER_05 (21:30):
We can't see the TV from our kitchen.
SPEAKER_04 (21:32):
Though we have a TV in the living room.
If we go in the living room, itis to do that.
It yeah, um we do have seatingto, you know, if we can get
together open presence in thatroom or whatever, but um and
ignore the the television.
But the but every room still hasits place, it's almost the TV
room, if you will.
So you have to be there for areason.
SPEAKER_01 (21:52):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (21:53):
So it's very intentional.
SPEAKER_01 (21:54):
Yep.
SPEAKER_04 (21:55):
Um, and so each room of the house is extremely
intentional because it's notyou're not just kind of so
happen to be in the the large umuh main space.
SPEAKER_01 (22:05):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (22:06):
And so kind of in the same way of the desktop,
there is something kind of niceabout being intentional.
Yeah, you sit down, you set itup, and you um go ahead and do
the things that you need to do,and then you cut that part of
the brain off when you turn it,you know, go ahead and and pause
it and walk away.
SPEAKER_05 (22:27):
Well, it's the home office.
SPEAKER_04 (22:28):
So as opposed to it just kind of being almost
attached to you, right?
It's now something that you'revery intentionally working on.
So I I don't I love that partabout it.
SPEAKER_05 (22:36):
It's yeah, and you do and then you don't.
And I think it's not just we'vestrayed from that because you
had the home office and you hadyour desktop.
And you, I mean, I'm not talkinglike this straight.
I mean, what this was part ofour life too, and you went
there, you I was gonna say youpaid your bills.
We didn't pay our bills onlineback then.
Um but you did yeah, you you gotemail.
(22:59):
I mean, we had we had Doc.
Still through mail.
I went upstairs, logged on, anduh went back down, got refreshed
my coffee, right?
Uh did my crossword puzzle, cameback up, and then oh, I'm
booted.
And then you check your email.
But now with smartphones, ofcourse, you get your email while
(23:19):
you're sitting there on thecouch.
You can respond to somebodywhile just sitting there on the
couch.
SPEAKER_04 (23:24):
I know.
SPEAKER_05 (23:24):
It's wonderful to have that level of freedom, but
it's but and and I think ourbrains are having a little issue
of balance because it you'reinundated from here, here, here,
here, here, here, here.
Oh my gosh, I got a text.
And I I probably, if my phonewasn't being used for this
podcast, I probably receiveprobably six texts by now and
two emails that my brain wouldbe trying to, oh yeah, I need to
(23:45):
do that for them and all that.
So we're constantly being pulledaway, and it's unfortunate when
you're face to face withsomeone, you're being pulled
away by something else.
And you know, it's kind of likewhen you're in a a store and
you're talking to someone, thenthey have to answer the phone.
And then now they're talking tothem, yes, yeah, you'll we'll be
up until five.
(24:06):
Yep.
Yes, we do have that.
And you're sitting there like,I'm in conversation with them.
I was here first, but becausethe technology being pulled away
in the immediacy of having torespond to that, it kind of
really challenges you know wherethe priority is and where our
attention should be.
So but I would toast a desktopbecause I feel like as it still
(24:30):
will outperform things.
And if you want to do somethingsouped up, yes, you probably
want a desktop.
Um and I guess gaming is isstill much better than a
desktop.
Nostalgically, I appreciate theuh you know to compartmentalize
you go here to do this.
(24:51):
And you know, while I doappreciate how much I can do
with a snark smartphone, I misshow, you know, I had to go boot
my computer to check my email.
So we're gonna toast it.
Toast.
Go ahead and toast it.
Absolutely.
SPEAKER_04 (25:07):
I'm with you.
SPEAKER_05 (25:08):
Toasty.
Alright.
Alright, so you will do onemore?
SPEAKER_03 (25:14):
Alright.
SPEAKER_05 (25:15):
We'll do one more and then we'll um close out with
uh some uh exciting f featuredannouncements.
Alright, we're gonna do onemore.
I want you to make it good now.
SPEAKER_00 (25:27):
Alright, let's make this one count.
How about the iconic Walkman?
Are we toasting it forrevolutionizing the way we
listen to music on the go, orare we roasting it for making us
carry around all those cassettetapes?
SPEAKER_03 (25:41):
Oh my goodness.
SPEAKER_05 (25:42):
Okay.
I'm also laughing over the factum I used to have one of those.
SPEAKER_03 (25:49):
It I mean it um cutting the grass, singing to my
Walkman.
SPEAKER_05 (25:54):
No, that's you know, one of those little office
recorders that had the littletiny tapes, and like you could
tape conversations and all that.
I would use that and record offthe radio and walk around with
that.
So it was like my own littlecustom tape walkman, and I I
remember we were um in highschool, and I had that in my
(26:16):
pocket because I could keep thatin my pocket, nobody knew.
And um, I had songs taped offthe radio and everything.
And me and a friend, it wasduring Spanish class where we
had to walk to a Spanishrestaurant, and on the way, I
had like Aussie songs and allthis stuff recorded on it.
So we're jamming to music frommy little thing.
SPEAKER_04 (26:38):
The Oz man.
SPEAKER_05 (26:38):
Yeah, go, yeah, and uh, yeah, and yes, we should um
pay homage and respect.
Yep.
And there we go.
Tip the hat, to the own.
Tip the hat, yep.
Absolutely.
So anyway, it's it's funny howthings have changed, and I mean
I don't I guess today you wouldjust have your oops, pods in and
all that.
I don't even know.
I I can't stand it in my ear.
SPEAKER_04 (27:00):
I I'm on the fence here because uh nostalgia, yes,
absolutely.
Um actually had the Osman Comethas uh uh tape cassette, yes, in
my walkman.
SPEAKER_05 (27:15):
Yep, I know, yep.
SPEAKER_04 (27:17):
Um but also watching, you know, our our
girls how easy music is.
SPEAKER_05 (27:26):
Oh yeah, I know it's beautiful, isn't it?
They they could they know a lot.
It would be a good thing.
SPEAKER_04 (27:30):
They have these wonderful playlists already
built.
Um it's it's not very difficultfor them to find the song that's
inspirational at the time.
Um it's music has becomeextremely accessible and easy.
SPEAKER_05 (27:44):
Right.
SPEAKER_04 (27:45):
And I'm so jealous, actually.
Yeah, you know, there's no likefast forward rewind.
SPEAKER_05 (27:50):
I know, fast forward rewind.
SPEAKER_04 (27:52):
It's like fast oh shoot, I missed it.
SPEAKER_05 (27:55):
Wait, do you have a pencil?
I need to put this boy backtogether.
Right.
Yeah.
But yeah, I know I no, I knowwhat you're talking about
though.
But what you're talking about isanother generation of what the
walkman allowed and got peopleto think about.
So you should still toast it.
SPEAKER_04 (28:12):
Uh toasting the bridge.
Um but yeah, I I actually lovethe direction music has has
turned into because it is so Imean, I walk in the kitchen and
I just tell Alexis to playsomething and and there it goes.
SPEAKER_05 (28:28):
Yeah, I get nervous when you say that word because
I'm like, oh my gosh, I justwant to chime in.
SPEAKER_04 (28:32):
But you know, it's uh any song zone.
It's as long as it understandsme.
Yeah, right.
Um, but any song, you know, andit's right there at my
fingertips.
And I don't know, there'ssomething just very incredible
about that.
SPEAKER_05 (28:44):
No, I get that.
SPEAKER_04 (28:45):
Um, especially music lovers, you know.
SPEAKER_05 (28:47):
Oh yeah, definitely.
SPEAKER_04 (28:48):
It's it's like I'm feeling, you know, 1991 right
now, you know.
So go ahead and play something.
SPEAKER_05 (28:53):
That's right.
Um so yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (28:57):
Or I'm I'm feeling in the like, you know,
especially in the wintertime, Iam um I'm a huge Buffett fan,
but only in the winter, so thatI can feel sunshine in during
wintertime.
SPEAKER_05 (29:12):
Yeah, it's definitely a psychological
component there.
SPEAKER_04 (29:15):
Um, so there, yeah, that's for me, that's kind of my
psychology of allowing myself toto deal with the winter blues.
SPEAKER_05 (29:23):
Yeah, no, and it's very important too.
SPEAKER_04 (29:25):
Um and then again, the ease of something like that
as opposed to, you know, we wehad a fantastic sound system
growing up.
Right.
Um, the CD changer, then ohyeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_05 (29:38):
The multi-d change.
SPEAKER_04 (29:39):
Multi, what, six CDs, I think, in one.
SPEAKER_05 (29:42):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (29:42):
And you know, daddy big on the bows speakers and
that kind of thing.
It sounded amazing.
Um, but I remember my bows,yeah.
You know, you still had to veryintentionally say I won C D
three, track seventeen.
Heart's desire could just bethere right there.
SPEAKER_05 (30:01):
Right.
SPEAKER_04 (30:02):
As soon as I say it.
SPEAKER_05 (30:03):
Speaking of C D, do you remember being a uh a a
passenger driving when I guessyou're not driving, passenger
riding down the road, puttingyour CD plate on top of a pillow
to keep it from skipping beforethe anti-skip technology.
When it had anti-skip, I'm like,oh my gosh, what kind of world
is this?
Are you kidding me?
(30:25):
We have reached the pinnacle ofcivilization.
SPEAKER_02 (30:29):
Like one of the bags from like Burger King or
something.
So it wouldn't move too muchchanged.
SPEAKER_05 (30:37):
Oh my gosh.
Oh, that's funny.
Well, I think that certainlywraps up our roasted.
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
SPEAKER_04 (30:44):
Did we roast it or toast it?
SPEAKER_05 (30:45):
Oh, I guess we didn't.
SPEAKER_04 (30:46):
I kind of roasted it more than toasted it.
You toasted it more than roastedit.
So What are we gonna decide?
We're just gonna play bothbecause we love them both.
SPEAKER_05 (30:53):
Alright, we're gonna play both on this one, but for
for the record, she wants toroast it, but really she wants
to toast it because it madeeverything else she just talked
about possible.
This is what made time travelpossible.
SPEAKER_04 (31:05):
Everything's a pretty good one.
SPEAKER_05 (31:06):
I know, I agree.
SPEAKER_04 (31:08):
So, okay.
SPEAKER_05 (31:09):
No, but there are some dumb ideas that never went
anywhere.
And we didn't get served any ofthese.
Yeah, I mean he didn't know.
SPEAKER_04 (31:17):
I'm not gonna say what again, not he, but it AI
really didn't.
SPEAKER_05 (31:20):
You know, but I mean there are some things that came
up came out, and you're like,yeah, that didn't really go
where we thought.
But so anyway.
SPEAKER_04 (31:27):
Alright, so Melanie roast.
SPEAKER_05 (31:33):
Oh boo hiss.
I love the walkman, but alright,that's fine.
Just not enough.
Alright, toast it for me now.
And then Jason toast.
Alright.
Love it.
SPEAKER_04 (31:45):
Love it.
SPEAKER_05 (31:46):
Alright, cool.
Well, we got a couple morethings before we close up.
SPEAKER_04 (31:49):
So um Um we're gonna, of course, uh do a little
plug for our next week's episodebecause we are super, super
excited to announce that ourvery own local celebrity, Greg
Thrift, yeah, will be joining usto talk about the changes of
technology in the communicationindustry.
SPEAKER_01 (32:06):
Yep.
SPEAKER_04 (32:07):
And so he is um, I mean, the the talker of the
town.
Oh, yeah.
If you need somebody to speak,if you need somebody on stage,
if you need uh MC for events, umhuge background in radio, audio
visual.
Oh my gosh.
SPEAKER_05 (32:23):
Um pioneer.
SPEAKER_04 (32:24):
Awesome actor, by the way.
Oh yeah, had the privilege ofseeing him in many um plays and
local plays and that sort ofthing.
So we are super, super exciteduh to to pick his brain, uh the
journey of where we were versuswhere we are, yeah.
Um how today's world haschanged, and um to just just
(32:46):
hear about his experiences.
So definitely looking forward tothat.
SPEAKER_05 (32:51):
Yeah, we just caught him just a bit ago, and um I was
like, hey, we will you be on ourpodcast?
And he's like, Yeah.
He's like, Yeah, I'd love to.
And um, I was like, so we'lltalk before, you know, now and
then, and uh, you know, to comeout with you know, just kind of
like an outline so we know wherewe're going.
(33:12):
I'm like, tell him I'm doing.
Yeah, I'm like, you've beendoing this for so many years,
and I'm telling you what to do.
So it's kind of really cool whenyou got somebody.
I've already probably got it allthe straight within five
seconds, he's like, I got it.
And right, see, I love that.
And um, I miss hearing him onthe radio.
Um, and actually was on on theradio with him one time.
(33:36):
So anytime he goes full circlelike that, it's always
interesting, and I love therenaissance of that.
But again, talking about thetechnology and how things have
changed and all, um, it I thinkthis would be, you know, it's
this is a love of ours.
So, and he told me, he's like,and I said, we do want to talk
(33:56):
about how the industry haschanged.
He said, He's like, son, when Ifirst started, we were using
45s.
SPEAKER_04 (34:01):
Right.
Which we didn't have a uh talkabout.
SPEAKER_05 (34:05):
Right, yep.
SPEAKER_04 (34:06):
So I think I'd toast that one.
SPEAKER_05 (34:08):
Yep.
SPEAKER_04 (34:09):
Toaster watch it, we got buttons.
SPEAKER_02 (34:12):
Right?
SPEAKER_05 (34:13):
Alright, so but yeah, um uh let's see.
So alright, I guess we're justgonna do the sign off.
Yeah, we're gonna sign off here,and um again, th thanks everyone
for their support.
We really appreciate when um youshare our posts, react to our
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(34:34):
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And we're just trying to get outthere because we know there are
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And um you can find us oniHeartRadio, Apple Podcasts, uh,
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You can fire us up and justsearch through your apps there.
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(34:55):
So dig around on there too, andagain, appreciate the support,
but I'm plugging for now.
SPEAKER_04 (35:01):
But always stay connected.
All right.
Welcome again.
Uh this is our fifth episode ofum Wired Together with Winternet
Web Technologies with your Yeah,we do know the name.
Yes, we found the name.
Uh it is on AI, it is all over.
Um it is Google searchable.
(00:27):
It's um a little bit scarilyexciting.
SPEAKER_05 (00:30):
Yeah, it was just kind of like all right, let me
just type in wired togetherbecause I was actually trying to
find the page where it wasembedded and all that mess, and
then it came up with the wholething about wired together as a
podcast by Jason Mellonie.
And we're like, uh oh, that'scrazy.
We've been found.
SPEAKER_04 (00:46):
We've been found.
Um, so that is really excitingfor us.
We are um really excited afterthis fifth episode.
We're gonna hopefully get intosome more um interviews, maybe
some uh local small business andthings like that.
So um as we keep going, we'retrying to change it up a little
(01:08):
bit.
Uh we did come up with a fungame though, um something that
we could also uh incorporate AIand and um go into our
technological world of of justwhat's what you're able to do.
SPEAKER_05 (01:23):
Right, it's crazy the technology.
SPEAKER_04 (01:26):
So um so the game we would like to introduce is um
the uh tech roast or toast.
So um AI is gonna join us.
Uh roast, of course, meanssomething that um he's gonna
come up with a product or a umsomething in the tech industry
(01:47):
um software, that sort of thing.
And then we will roast it.
SPEAKER_05 (01:52):
So something maybe we're like, ah, yes, overrated
or overrated, right?
SPEAKER_04 (01:57):
Or toast it, uh you know, cheers, you know, clicks
glasses, that kind of thing.
So um we'll we'll start withthat and then we'll go into um a
little bit of maybe what'scoming up.
SPEAKER_05 (02:11):
All right, good deal.
All right, little co-host, youcooperate with me here.
So all right.
Hey AI, let's play tech roast ortoast.
SPEAKER_00 (02:24):
All right, let's do it.
I'll give you a piece of techand you let me know if it's a
roast or a toast.
How about the classic floppydisc?
Is it a nostalgic toast or arewe roasting it for its tiny
storage capacity?
SPEAKER_04 (02:39):
Oh, that one's mean.
I can't help what it was.
SPEAKER_05 (02:43):
Did you have to say tiny?
That's um I mean flash drivesare even smaller.
I mean, a lot of this is Yeah,but they store more.
Yeah, I mean gosh, I rememberthe low density was 720
megabytes, then the high densityof 1.404.
Then you had like a double highdensity.
They were trying to almost likereally go with how much you
(03:06):
could fit on that size.
I mean, I'm looking over at astack of them I still have.
I have a lot of my childhood onthese things.
SPEAKER_04 (03:18):
It really To me it it's it's equates a what,
cassette tape, uh Right.
I mean it LP that could be.
SPEAKER_05 (03:28):
It was the era.
Right.
It's what it's what you had andbought.
SPEAKER_04 (03:31):
I'd be all ready to toast.
SPEAKER_05 (03:33):
I I am too.
SPEAKER_04 (03:34):
I mean it's a bridge, you know.
SPEAKER_05 (03:36):
It is.
SPEAKER_04 (03:37):
And um just like the A-track, you know, bridging into
the cassette, exactly, whichbridges into the CD, you know.
SPEAKER_05 (03:45):
Well the C D killed the floppy.
Right, because it could holdlike 400 and some megabytes,
which was reburning and thatsort of thing.
So then the rewritable came, butyeah.
Rewrite, yeah.
Alright, so I I yeah, I I agree.
I'm I'm I think it's worthtoasting.
SPEAKER_04 (04:05):
Toast the technology of the time.
Let's do it.
SPEAKER_05 (04:07):
You want to toast together?
Let's toast it.
Alright, so if anyone can pickup on that, um, we're trying to
find sounds that would uh berelevant for toasting.
And clinking of glasses andcheering sound was okay, but um
take this little nostalgic bitfor you.
(04:30):
Alright.
Let's see what else he's gothere.
Um all right, give us anotherone, buddy.
Roaster toast.
SPEAKER_00 (04:40):
Alright, let's keep it going.
How about the original NintendoEntertainment System?
The NES.
Are we toasting it for being apioneer in the gaming world or
roasting it for those old schoolgraphics?
SPEAKER_05 (04:52):
Oh my gosh.
SPEAKER_04 (04:53):
There is no no, that is a toast and a half.
Yeah, I mean it's pioneer isYeah.
SPEAKER_05 (05:01):
8-bit.
This is our childhood.
My gosh, you I could talk foreasily the entire rest of this
podcast, and I'm not going tobe.
There are squirrels, but thenthis is like a nest of squirrels
would be coming out.
The NES was just transformative.
(05:23):
I mean, um it got one at fiveyears old, and um it really led
to what I do today.
SPEAKER_04 (05:33):
Five.
SPEAKER_05 (05:33):
Yeah, we had five goodness gracious.
It it it came out had no idea itexpected.
It came out like eighty four,eighty-five, but wow in of
course in the US, um, you know,eighty-eight and you know, I
guess.
SPEAKER_04 (05:47):
Down here in Southside Virginia took a bit
longer.
SPEAKER_05 (05:51):
Yeah, but the the other cool tidbit for anybody
out there, and of course,everyone, Nintendo became
ubiquitous for any gamingsystem, you know.
It's you know, the whole memesout there, like your mom's like,
you know, um, are you playingyour Nintendo?
And you could have a Sega.
It doesn't matter.
Nintendo was the name they knew.
But Kleenex.
Right, Kleenex, exactly.
(06:12):
Right.
But Nintendo being a strangeword, it actually, as a Japanese
company in the late 1800s, was aum playing card company, and
they made playing cards likeHoyle or these other things.
So it's interesting that like ahundred years later, they're
still in the gaming industry.
Anyway, neat little tidbit.
(06:32):
But with all that said, yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (06:34):
Funny with the things we decided to make as
noises for roast and toast thatNintendo got picked up on.
SPEAKER_05 (06:43):
Yeah, Nintendo's there.
Uh, for sure.
We'll get into that.
So, yeah.
I maybe we should ask AI what hethinks.
All right.
SPEAKER_04 (06:52):
But that's a huge toast.
SPEAKER_05 (06:53):
Alright, so we're gonna toast it.
Uh, what are your thoughts?
And don't be political and say,oh, well, you know, whatever.
Just go ahead and give it to us.
Would you roast or toast this?
SPEAKER_00 (07:05):
I'm definitely in the toast camp on this one.
The NES was such a game changerand robbed so much to it to
people.
Sure, the graphics are retro,but that's part of its charm.
SPEAKER_04 (07:15):
Absolutely.
There you go.
SPEAKER_05 (07:19):
There we go.
Got the proper toast.
All right.
Let's go for another one.
This thing's making a noise now.
I want to unmute him now.
Alright, give us another one.
Let's keep going.
SPEAKER_00 (07:33):
All right, let's see what we've got next.
How about the good old faxmachine?
Are we toasting it for its rolein revolutionizing office
communication back in the day,or are we roasting it for being
a bit of a dinosaur in today'sdigital age?
SPEAKER_04 (07:49):
The idea, sure, there's a toast there, but um
the consistent using is uh a bitof a roast for me.
SPEAKER_05 (07:59):
It was frustrating.
I mean, especially when you hada stack of like we would have to
fax like I was in I was in gradschool and I had to fax a stack
like 45 pages from one part ofthe campus.
Gosh, this sounds like adinosaur now.
One part of the college campusto another part.
(08:22):
And now that I think about it,why we couldn't just scan an
email.
But anyway, I had my stack, Ihad, you know, you had to fill
out the little cover sheet toand from all that, you know,
which I mean it could have beenlike two from subject of the
email, but and then send it off,and sometimes you would have
errors, sometimes, you know,there would be problems.
But I will say, the fax machinecame in my favor one time when I
(08:46):
was living on a uh oh hey Jock,you're hearing this?
Um, when we were live when I wasliving in an apartment at
Virginia Tech, there was someissue, I can't remember the
issue, it had to do was itplumbing, electric, something.
And I wanted them to come fixit.
So I called them and calledthem, you know, yeah, we got
(09:07):
your name and number, we'llcall, you know, get back to you.
And after about a week or two,I'm like, fine.
Um, this isn't working.
So I took a piece of blackconstruction paper and with
whiteout wrote my phone numberon it.
And I've faxed it to them everyfive minutes.
Will you believe it?
(09:28):
I got a phone call, and theywere like, look, okay, we'll be
there later this afternoon.
Stop draining our toner.
SPEAKER_02 (09:38):
Right.
Toner so important.
SPEAKER_05 (09:41):
Technological win.
I figured, look, let me hit itwhere it hurts.
They're gonna vote me.
So anyway, that's um that's afunny story related to the fax
machine.
So I mean, it it was beforescanning and email had its
place.
I mean, it's a dinosaur now, butyou know, it it did its job.
SPEAKER_04 (09:57):
So could we did spend some time roasting it
though, so can we can weconsider it roasted for all
right?
SPEAKER_05 (10:04):
Look, I'll be glad to roast a fax machine or a
printer or anything.
SPEAKER_04 (10:08):
So NES will still play, but fax machine machine,
we're done.
SPEAKER_05 (10:12):
Yeah, fax machine, get rid of it.
Roast it boosts boo hissed.
Okay, all right, so we'reroasting it.
Oh, okay.
Fax machine died.
Huzzah, that's great.
SPEAKER_03 (10:23):
This is our roasting sound and that really relates to
what we were just talking aboutwith NES.
SPEAKER_05 (10:29):
That's all right.
Yep.
All right, give us another one,buddy.
SPEAKER_00 (10:34):
All right, here we go.
How about virtual realityheadsets?
Are we toasting them forbringing immersive experiences
into our homes or roasting themfor still being a bit bulky and
pricey?
I have pricey, bulky, glitchy.
SPEAKER_04 (10:48):
I think I've heard I mean, I I think they're we're
we're not there yet for uh uhregular home consumption kind of
thing.
SPEAKER_05 (10:58):
Well, the yeah, because it's like this optimist
headset, and I'm talking like Ireally know much about it.
I mean, it's really has gottenbetter.
SPEAKER_04 (11:07):
I've never experienced one, so you know a
lot of people that are um I knowpeople who have them and it's
it's kind of causes a bit ofvertigo.
SPEAKER_05 (11:18):
Oh really?
SPEAKER_04 (11:19):
Yeah, this out of reality kind of feel that's not
I know a lot of people that areout of reality that don't even
use them, so I think we're Ithink we're not there as far as
you know, just like the PC, ittook a bit for that to be
something in the home.
Right.
SPEAKER_05 (11:36):
Yeah, and I mean yeah, the price point is
difficult.
SPEAKER_04 (11:38):
In the home um because of expense and because
of, you know, just wonky.
SPEAKER_05 (11:44):
Yeah, I mean it's I mean you put these things on,
you're in this in this world,but also you're running into the
wall.
I mean, no, again, it I think itwill improve.
I think if it could become morehologramic, so it wasn't over
your eyes, but you could seesomething, but also know where
your actual natural boundariesare, some way hybriding that
(12:08):
would really make it better.
SPEAKER_04 (12:09):
When CGI was first starting, um I I remember them
talking about Shrek.
SPEAKER_05 (12:14):
Oh yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (12:15):
Shrek was um they had gotten to the point it was
so realistic, it was not itlooked fake.
It looked more fake than makingit slightly more animated.
Right.
Making it actually look better.
SPEAKER_05 (12:28):
Yep, exactly.
SPEAKER_04 (12:29):
Um so that they had to kind of pull back on how real
they made Shrek just because ofit being harder to take for the
brain.
The brain's trying to fill toomuch in.
SPEAKER_05 (12:40):
And so I think we're and you're judging it based on
reality versus judging it basedon this looks neat and looks
right.
SPEAKER_04 (12:45):
You know, I think that's where we are with home
virtual reality.
It's not really it it's almosttoo real that it doesn't work.
SPEAKER_05 (12:53):
Right.
All right, let's bring AI in onthis.
All right, what are yourthoughts on roasting or toasting
this?
And again, don't get allpolitical on me.
Make a decision.
SPEAKER_00 (13:06):
I definitely toast virtual reality Ansex.
They're opening up amazing newworlds and experiences, even if
they're still a bit bulky.
It's exciting to see where thetech is headed.
SPEAKER_05 (13:15):
Well, what what do you see as the problems?
Cause I mean, we're we're we'relooking at maybe leaning toward
roasting, but we aren't werespect it, but what do you
think?
SPEAKER_00 (13:27):
I get that.
One of the main things peoplemight roast VR headsets for is
that they can still be a bit onthe heavy side and not the most
comfortable for extended use.
Plus, the cost can be a barrierfor a lot of folks, and and not
everyone loves being tethered toa divide here dealing with
motion sickness.
So there's definitely room forsome light roasting, even if the
tech itself is super cool.
SPEAKER_05 (13:50):
So you want to roast it together with us?
SPEAKER_00 (13:54):
Absolutely.
Let's do it.
unknown (13:55):
All right.
SPEAKER_00 (13:55):
We'll roast it for being a little clunky and
causing us to feel like we'vegot a penny jam or got on our
heads, not to mention theoccasional motion sickness.
But hey, we can still appreciatethe awesome experiences it gives
us, right?
Oh, there you go.
You got political, but anyway.
SPEAKER_05 (14:11):
All right, roast it.
I really I really just wanted tohear that again.
SPEAKER_04 (14:18):
I know, right?
SPEAKER_05 (14:19):
All right, so all right, give us another one.
SPEAKER_00 (14:24):
All right, let's keep the fun going.
How about we take a look at thegood old flip phone?
Are we toasting it for itsdurability and satisfying snap,
or are we roasting it for itstiny screens and lack of apps?
SPEAKER_04 (14:36):
Oh god, we could go either way with those.
SPEAKER_05 (14:38):
Alright, I'll tell you.
And anyone that's local.
All right, so David Farmer cameto our house and sold us the
flip phone when we were withAltel.
SPEAKER_04 (14:48):
God, your memory is crazy.
SPEAKER_05 (14:49):
Okay.
Um he probably came to our houseto see if there were any bears
in the backyard that he wantedto hunt.
But anyway, he was there to sellcell phones, and um I remember
it was some Motorola VZR.
SPEAKER_04 (15:06):
It was that first name any set of letters.
I'm not gonna remember.
SPEAKER_05 (15:10):
Right.
And it, I mean, I I felt like Iwas big time.
I mean, you had the flip phones,so you act, you know, cell
phones initially.
I mean, all right, go back tothe um, you know, traditional,
you know, wired phone.
When you hang up on somebody,especially the the rotary ones,
because that the bell would godrank.
I mean satisfying.
It's satisfying.
(15:31):
Yes, it's the Nokia brick, youknow, boop, okay.
You hung up on somebody, it'snot satisfying.
The flip phone, for some reason,that little clamshell, take your
hand, clip, you felt like youhung up on that person.
And that's not the reason why Igot the phone, but for some
reason, with the marketing ofthe time, you you open that boy
(15:51):
up, you're sitting there walkingand talking to somebody, you're
like, Yeah, man, I got this flipphone, you know.
SPEAKER_04 (15:57):
Yeah, I'm I'm gonna go with Toast because you know
it still felt like it didsomething when you hung up and
so you know, as opposed to justput pushing a little button or
something.
SPEAKER_05 (16:08):
All phones now look the same.
SPEAKER_04 (16:09):
Really, it's not even a button anymore, it's just
the screen.
So it's you kind of get thisfeeling of that hardwired
feeling.
Right, exactly.
You know, in marketing gap um imall marketing, you know, the
the clicking of um high heels onthe wood floor.
Extremely important.
Um so the wall the floor has toreally match that because it it
(16:31):
gives this empower empowermentfor women and um or the clicking
of heels at all or of shoes.
So uh both genders could, youknow, kind of get this feeling.
SPEAKER_05 (16:42):
Yeah, if you're wearing dress shoes, you feel
you hear that.
SPEAKER_04 (16:44):
That that very mechanical flip up, flip-out,
you know.
I I think that's I'm I'm gonnasay worth toasting.
SPEAKER_05 (16:51):
Yeah, I'd say so too.
But um in today, all phonespretty much are the same.
It's all maximized the amount ofscreen space, it's flat, it's a
large um, you know, the largescreen at like a flat candy bar,
if you will.
And um I think we have lost,though, the creativity in
(17:14):
development and aestheticsbecause everyone has now
navigated to what our phoneslook like now.
The flip phone and some of thoseother phones at that time with a
keyboard that might slide down,things like that, turn it
sideways, this spins around, allof those things were really cool
at the time.
We need to get back to that.
SPEAKER_04 (17:32):
So there was a bridge there as far as still uh
allowing you to feel like you'repushing something.
SPEAKER_05 (17:37):
Well, yeah, but you bought a phone based on what it
did and how cool it was.
Now you're just buying it basedon what provider you have and
what their next thing thatthey're giving you.
That's so fair point, fairpoint.
Um Apple, Samsung, and whoeverelse, step it up.
All right.
Um, but we are going to toastthe flip phone.
Yes.
(17:58):
Yep.
unknown (17:59):
Toasty!
SPEAKER_05 (18:00):
There we go, toasty.
SPEAKER_03 (18:01):
Very exciting.
SPEAKER_05 (18:02):
Alright, we toasted a flip phone.
We thought it was really cool.
And hey, what do you think aboutthe fact that cell phones back
then with this flip phone withthe extendable keyboard, this
some of them they kind of turnedand did different things, how
the creativity was really inthat time.
Nowadays, the smartphones alllook the same.
(18:23):
What are your thoughts?
SPEAKER_00 (18:27):
I totally agree.
There was a lot of creativityand variety back in the flip
phone era.
It was fun to see all thosedifferent designs and features
like sliding keyboards or phonesthat could swivel.
It definitely made each devicefeel unique.
But uh yeah, it's it'sinteresting how phones back then
had so much variety andpersonality.
Each one had its own littletwist, and it was fun to see all
(18:48):
the different features they cameup with.
But there's definitely somethingto appreciate about the sleek
and consistent design of today'ssmartphones, too.
SPEAKER_05 (18:56):
I love how he just loves everything.
Um very PC.
Right, very PC.
I've got to train that out ofthe droid now.
Make an opinion.
Okay.
All right, so I guess we go havean opinion, it's just facts.
Oh, I know that.
Yep.
All right.
Let's let's do another one.
All right, throw another one atus.
SPEAKER_00 (19:18):
All right, let's do another one.
How about the trusty old desktopcomputer?
Are we toasting it for its powerand upgradability, or are we
roasting it for not being asportable and sleek as our Martin
gadgets?
SPEAKER_05 (19:33):
Really depends on what you're using it for.
I mean, I will say when it comesto computers, heat is the enemy.
Yeah, heat degrades the internalcomponents, slows things down,
and eventually kills yourcomputer.
Laptops.
Oh, I know.
Laptops, while very convenientto move around, they're in in
(19:53):
itty bitty living space.
SPEAKER_02 (19:55):
Itty bitty living space.
SPEAKER_05 (19:57):
So a desktop, of course, as anyone will know, is
obviously, you know, muchlarger.
The air can flow.
Um performance-wise, a desktopwould outperform a laptop um
with similar components.
And, you know, it it has theability to do that because of
its cooling factor.
(20:19):
We don't lug a desktop around todo stuff.
Um in the traditional homeoffice is becoming less and less
because of the convenience of,oh, let me flip this mon, you
know, the close the laptop, pickit up, throw it in my bag, and
go.
Um we are more mobile.
SPEAKER_04 (20:39):
But we're losing intention though.
I mean, you know, when this is abit of a stretching wild, but um
we live in a farmhouse, and soum it is as opposed to modern
day housing where you've got theum kind of the mega room, what
do you call that?
SPEAKER_05 (20:58):
Uh well it's like the uh you're talking about the
living room, the main room, thelarge living space in the in the
front.
SPEAKER_04 (21:04):
Um where we are um living in a house where it's
it's very piecemeal because ofcourse heating and cooling makes
more sense in um that timeperiod of each room in the
compartmentalized.
So it's a compartmentalized, andso one thing I actually love
about that is um to be in theliving room is extremely
intentional.
(21:25):
You're not you don't just sohappen to be in the living room,
you're not just so happened tobe in there.
SPEAKER_05 (21:30):
We can't see the TV from our kitchen.
SPEAKER_04 (21:32):
Though we have a TV in the living room.
If we go in the living room, itis to do that.
It yeah, um we do have seatingto, you know, if we can get
together open presence in thatroom or whatever, but um and
ignore the the television.
But the but every room still hasits place, it's almost the TV
room, if you will.
So you have to be there for areason.
SPEAKER_01 (21:52):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (21:53):
So it's very intentional.
SPEAKER_01 (21:54):
Yep.
SPEAKER_04 (21:55):
Um, and so each room of the house is extremely
intentional because it's notyou're not just kind of so
happen to be in the the large umuh main space.
SPEAKER_01 (22:05):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (22:06):
And so kind of in the same way of the desktop,
there is something kind of niceabout being intentional.
Yeah, you sit down, you set itup, and you um go ahead and do
the things that you need to do,and then you cut that part of
the brain off when you turn it,you know, go ahead and and pause
it and walk away.
SPEAKER_05 (22:27):
Well, it's the home office.
SPEAKER_04 (22:28):
So as opposed to it just kind of being almost
attached to you, right?
It's now something that you'revery intentionally working on.
So I I don't I love that partabout it.
SPEAKER_05 (22:36):
It's yeah, and you do and then you don't.
And I think it's not just we'vestrayed from that because you
had the home office and you hadyour desktop.
And you, I mean, I'm not talkinglike this straight.
I mean, what this was part ofour life too, and you went
there, you I was gonna say youpaid your bills.
We didn't pay our bills onlineback then.
Um but you did yeah, you you gotemail.
(22:59):
I mean, we had we had Doc.
Still through mail.
I went upstairs, logged on, anduh went back down, got refreshed
my coffee, right?
Uh did my crossword puzzle, cameback up, and then oh, I'm
booted.
And then you check your email.
But now with smartphones, ofcourse, you get your email while
(23:19):
you're sitting there on thecouch.
You can respond to somebodywhile just sitting there on the
couch.
SPEAKER_04 (23:24):
I know.
SPEAKER_05 (23:24):
It's wonderful to have that level of freedom, but
it's but and and I think ourbrains are having a little issue
of balance because it you'reinundated from here, here, here,
here, here, here, here.
Oh my gosh, I got a text.
And I I probably, if my phonewasn't being used for this
podcast, I probably receiveprobably six texts by now and
two emails that my brain wouldbe trying to, oh yeah, I need to
(23:45):
do that for them and all that.
So we're constantly being pulledaway, and it's unfortunate when
you're face to face withsomeone, you're being pulled
away by something else.
And you know, it's kind of likewhen you're in a a store and
you're talking to someone, thenthey have to answer the phone.
And then now they're talking tothem, yes, yeah, you'll we'll be
up until five.
(24:06):
Yep.
Yes, we do have that.
And you're sitting there like,I'm in conversation with them.
I was here first, but becausethe technology being pulled away
in the immediacy of having torespond to that, it kind of
really challenges you know wherethe priority is and where our
attention should be.
So but I would toast a desktopbecause I feel like as it still
(24:30):
will outperform things.
And if you want to do somethingsouped up, yes, you probably
want a desktop.
Um and I guess gaming is isstill much better than a
desktop.
Nostalgically, I appreciate theuh you know to compartmentalize
you go here to do this.
(24:51):
And you know, while I doappreciate how much I can do
with a snark smartphone, I misshow, you know, I had to go boot
my computer to check my email.
So we're gonna toast it.
Toast.
Go ahead and toast it.
Absolutely.
SPEAKER_04 (25:07):
I'm with you.
SPEAKER_05 (25:08):
Toasty.
Alright.
Alright, so you will do onemore?
SPEAKER_03 (25:14):
Alright.
SPEAKER_05 (25:15):
We'll do one more and then we'll um close out with
uh some uh exciting f featuredannouncements.
Alright, we're gonna do onemore.
I want you to make it good now.
SPEAKER_00 (25:27):
Alright, let's make this one count.
How about the iconic Walkman?
Are we toasting it forrevolutionizing the way we
listen to music on the go, orare we roasting it for making us
carry around all those cassettetapes?
SPEAKER_03 (25:41):
Oh my goodness.
SPEAKER_05 (25:42):
Okay.
I'm also laughing over the factum I used to have one of those.
SPEAKER_03 (25:49):
It I mean it um cutting the grass, singing to my
Walkman.
SPEAKER_05 (25:54):
No, that's you know, one of those little office
recorders that had the littletiny tapes, and like you could
tape conversations and all that.
I would use that and record offthe radio and walk around with
that.
So it was like my own littlecustom tape walkman, and I I
remember we were um in highschool, and I had that in my
(26:16):
pocket because I could keep thatin my pocket, nobody knew.
And um, I had songs taped offthe radio and everything.
And me and a friend, it wasduring Spanish class where we
had to walk to a Spanishrestaurant, and on the way, I
had like Aussie songs and allthis stuff recorded on it.
So we're jamming to music frommy little thing.
SPEAKER_04 (26:38):
The Oz man.
SPEAKER_05 (26:38):
Yeah, go, yeah, and uh, yeah, and yes, we should um
pay homage and respect.
Yep.
And there we go.
Tip the hat, to the own.
Tip the hat, yep.
Absolutely.
So anyway, it's it's funny howthings have changed, and I mean
I don't I guess today you wouldjust have your oops, pods in and
all that.
I don't even know.
I I can't stand it in my ear.
SPEAKER_04 (27:00):
I I'm on the fence here because uh nostalgia, yes,
absolutely.
Um actually had the Osman Comethas uh uh tape cassette, yes, in
my walkman.
SPEAKER_05 (27:15):
Yep, I know, yep.
SPEAKER_04 (27:17):
Um but also watching, you know, our our
girls how easy music is.
SPEAKER_05 (27:26):
Oh yeah, I know it's beautiful, isn't it?
They they could they know a lot.
It would be a good thing.
SPEAKER_04 (27:30):
They have these wonderful playlists already
built.
Um it's it's not very difficultfor them to find the song that's
inspirational at the time.
Um it's music has becomeextremely accessible and easy.
SPEAKER_05 (27:44):
Right.
SPEAKER_04 (27:45):
And I'm so jealous, actually.
Yeah, you know, there's no likefast forward rewind.
SPEAKER_05 (27:50):
I know, fast forward rewind.
SPEAKER_04 (27:52):
It's like fast oh shoot, I missed it.
SPEAKER_05 (27:55):
Wait, do you have a pencil?
I need to put this boy backtogether.
Right.
Yeah.
But yeah, I know I no, I knowwhat you're talking about
though.
But what you're talking about isanother generation of what the
walkman allowed and got peopleto think about.
So you should still toast it.
SPEAKER_04 (28:12):
Uh toasting the bridge.
Um but yeah, I I actually lovethe direction music has has
turned into because it is so Imean, I walk in the kitchen and
I just tell Alexis to playsomething and and there it goes.
SPEAKER_05 (28:28):
Yeah, I get nervous when you say that word because
I'm like, oh my gosh, I justwant to chime in.
SPEAKER_04 (28:32):
But you know, it's uh any song zone.
It's as long as it understandsme.
Yeah, right.
Um, but any song, you know, andit's right there at my
fingertips.
And I don't know, there'ssomething just very incredible
about that.
SPEAKER_05 (28:44):
No, I get that.
SPEAKER_04 (28:45):
Um, especially music lovers, you know.
SPEAKER_05 (28:47):
Oh yeah, definitely.
SPEAKER_04 (28:48):
It's it's like I'm feeling, you know, 1991 right
now, you know.
So go ahead and play something.
SPEAKER_05 (28:53):
That's right.
Um so yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (28:57):
Or I'm I'm feeling in the like, you know,
especially in the wintertime, Iam um I'm a huge Buffett fan,
but only in the winter, so thatI can feel sunshine in during
wintertime.
SPEAKER_05 (29:12):
Yeah, it's definitely a psychological
component there.
SPEAKER_04 (29:15):
Um, so there, yeah, that's for me, that's kind of my
psychology of allowing myself toto deal with the winter blues.
SPEAKER_05 (29:23):
Yeah, no, and it's very important too.
SPEAKER_04 (29:25):
Um and then again, the ease of something like that
as opposed to, you know, we wehad a fantastic sound system
growing up.
Right.
Um, the CD changer, then ohyeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_05 (29:38):
The multi-d change.
SPEAKER_04 (29:39):
Multi, what, six CDs, I think, in one.
SPEAKER_05 (29:42):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_04 (29:42):
And you know, daddy big on the bows speakers and
that kind of thing.
It sounded amazing.
Um, but I remember my bows,yeah.
You know, you still had to veryintentionally say I won C D
three, track seventeen.
Heart's desire could just bethere right there.
SPEAKER_05 (30:01):
Right.
SPEAKER_04 (30:02):
As soon as I say it.
SPEAKER_05 (30:03):
Speaking of C D, do you remember being a uh a a
passenger driving when I guessyou're not driving, passenger
riding down the road, puttingyour CD plate on top of a pillow
to keep it from skipping beforethe anti-skip technology.
When it had anti-skip, I'm like,oh my gosh, what kind of world
is this?
Are you kidding me?
(30:25):
We have reached the pinnacle ofcivilization.
SPEAKER_02 (30:29):
Like one of the bags from like Burger King or
something.
So it wouldn't move too muchchanged.
SPEAKER_05 (30:37):
Oh my gosh.
Oh, that's funny.
Well, I think that certainlywraps up our roasted.
Whoa, whoa, whoa.
SPEAKER_04 (30:44):
Did we roast it or toast it?
SPEAKER_05 (30:45):
Oh, I guess we didn't.
SPEAKER_04 (30:46):
I kind of roasted it more than toasted it.
You toasted it more than roastedit.
So What are we gonna decide?
We're just gonna play bothbecause we love them both.
SPEAKER_05 (30:53):
Alright, we're gonna play both on this one, but for
for the record, she wants toroast it, but really she wants
to toast it because it madeeverything else she just talked
about possible.
This is what made time travelpossible.
SPEAKER_04 (31:05):
Everything's a pretty good one.
SPEAKER_05 (31:06):
I know, I agree.
SPEAKER_04 (31:08):
So, okay.
SPEAKER_05 (31:09):
No, but there are some dumb ideas that never went
anywhere.
And we didn't get served any ofthese.
Yeah, I mean he didn't know.
SPEAKER_04 (31:17):
I'm not gonna say what again, not he, but it AI
really didn't.
SPEAKER_05 (31:20):
You know, but I mean there are some things that came
up came out, and you're like,yeah, that didn't really go
where we thought.
But so anyway.
SPEAKER_04 (31:27):
Alright, so Melanie roast.
SPEAKER_05 (31:33):
Oh boo hiss.
I love the walkman, but alright,that's fine.
Just not enough.
Alright, toast it for me now.
And then Jason toast.
Alright.
Love it.
SPEAKER_04 (31:45):
Love it.
SPEAKER_05 (31:46):
Alright, cool.
Well, we got a couple morethings before we close up.
SPEAKER_04 (31:49):
So um Um we're gonna, of course, uh do a little
plug for our next week's episodebecause we are super, super
excited to announce that ourvery own local celebrity, Greg
Thrift, yeah, will be joining usto talk about the changes of
technology in the communicationindustry.
SPEAKER_01 (32:06):
Yep.
SPEAKER_04 (32:07):
And so he is um, I mean, the the talker of the
town.
Oh, yeah.
If you need somebody to speak,if you need somebody on stage,
if you need uh MC for events, umhuge background in radio, audio
visual.
Oh my gosh.
SPEAKER_05 (32:23):
Um pioneer.
SPEAKER_04 (32:24):
Awesome actor, by the way.
Oh yeah, had the privilege ofseeing him in many um plays and
local plays and that sort ofthing.
So we are super, super exciteduh to to pick his brain, uh the
journey of where we were versuswhere we are, yeah.
Um how today's world haschanged, and um to just just
(32:46):
hear about his experiences.
So definitely looking forward tothat.
SPEAKER_05 (32:51):
Yeah, we just caught him just a bit ago, and um I was
like, hey, we will you be on ourpodcast?
And he's like, Yeah.
He's like, Yeah, I'd love to.
And um, I was like, so we'lltalk before, you know, now and
then, and uh, you know, to comeout with you know, just kind of
like an outline so we know wherewe're going.
(33:12):
I'm like, tell him I'm doing.
Yeah, I'm like, you've beendoing this for so many years,
and I'm telling you what to do.
So it's kind of really cool whenyou got somebody.
I've already probably got it allthe straight within five
seconds, he's like, I got it.
And right, see, I love that.
And um, I miss hearing him onthe radio.
Um, and actually was on on theradio with him one time.
(33:36):
So anytime he goes full circlelike that, it's always
interesting, and I love therenaissance of that.
But again, talking about thetechnology and how things have
changed and all, um, it I thinkthis would be, you know, it's
this is a love of ours.
So, and he told me, he's like,and I said, we do want to talk
(33:56):
about how the industry haschanged.
He said, He's like, son, when Ifirst started, we were using
45s.
SPEAKER_04 (34:01):
Right.
Which we didn't have a uh talkabout.
SPEAKER_05 (34:05):
Right, yep.
SPEAKER_04 (34:06):
So I think I'd toast that one.
SPEAKER_05 (34:08):
Yep.
SPEAKER_04 (34:09):
Toaster watch it, we got buttons.
SPEAKER_02 (34:12):
Right?
SPEAKER_05 (34:13):
Alright, so but yeah, um uh let's see.
So alright, I guess we're justgonna do the sign off.
Yeah, we're gonna sign off here,and um again, th thanks everyone
for their support.
We really appreciate when um youshare our posts, react to our
posts.
(34:34):
That just helps the algorithm.
And we're just trying to get outthere because we know there are
a lot of people around thecountry and the world just like
us.
And um you can find us oniHeartRadio, Apple Podcasts, uh,
YouTube, and of course yoursmart TV.
You can fire us up and justsearch through your apps there.
Spotify.
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(34:55):
So dig around on there too, andagain, appreciate the support,
but I'm plugging for now.
SPEAKER_04 (35:01):
But always stay connected.
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