July 29, 2025 • 34 mins
It’s game time on Wired Together—and this isn’t your typical tech talk. We’ve programmed our very own AI gameshow host to lead us through a rapid-fire challenge where we have to guess: Is this mysterious tech term from the past or the present?
In this special episode, we dive into our first-ever interactive game segment, mixing tech trivia, laughs, and a little friendly competition. The catch? We don’t know the questions ahead of time—and our AI host is calling the shots.
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SPEAKER_02 (00:02):
All right.
Welcome back to another episodeof Wired Together with your
Winternet Web Technology host.
I'm Melanie Winter.
SPEAKER_00 (00:11):
And I'm Jason Winter.
SPEAKER_02 (00:13):
And today we are going to talk about something
near and dear to our hearts.
When we think about what all ofthe the who we are of everything
that we do, we are this weird,interesting dichotomy of the old
and the new.
And so we are we operate out ofa very old building.
(00:42):
And we have a very very much alove of our definitely an
affinity for.
An affinity for the older style.
We have a very old house.
(01:04):
And so we we love that kind ofuh feel that uh a little bit
broken, a little bit squeaky.
That is something we're gonnalike really jump into.
Um and so we have in in ourhouse um, you know, butter
churns and and hurricanelanguage.
(01:24):
Quite a few.
Um, you know, it it is just kindof something that is us and um
something we value, and ofcourse our value system.
We're kind of old people in inin heart.
Um so we definitely old souls.
We have more of that, you know,kind of self-sustaining
do-it-yourself values and and umbeing connected to people in in
(01:48):
the old community way.
Um so we we love that.
And then of course, what makesus kind of flutter away from
that or not away, but it's it'sa contrast, but it's kind of the
contrast, it's still very is um,you know, we have children we've
raised who are actuallytroubleshooters, uh they're very
good at um taking something uhon in the tech world and and
(02:14):
making it work for them andtroubleshooting.
Yeah um they we do have a lot ofthe latest technology in the
house, which is wild because youknow, you get a butter churn and
like a um you know, Alexa droidthat talks to you um and plays
whatever music we want.
Um and so that's kind of cool,you know, the the two things
(02:37):
going together, and then kind ofa uh a philosophy of what we
believe in is with our oldsystem values.
We also have a tech is freedomkind of philosophy.
So we talk about this a lot.
Um what all of these newtechnologies mean for the the
freedom of things, you know, tobe able to do to be
self-sustaining through tech.
SPEAKER_03 (02:58):
Right.
SPEAKER_02 (02:59):
Which goes back to the self-sustaining ideas of the
values.
So it kind of goes together,even though it sounds like it's
opposite or um, well, I I mean Iwould say that you gotta know
history to know where it'sgoing, people say that.
SPEAKER_00 (03:13):
So I think having an understanding of that history
gives you a respect and also ayou know, we see how I mean
looking at our house, you caneasily, you know, it's really
fun.
If you do any demolition, youknow, any of you out there that
have restored an older home, youcan kind of see um how things
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have come along and how thetechnologies have changed as you
get behind the wall and you seecertain things.
So by seeing what was there, itgives you a respect for it, but
also an understanding of what isto come.
And also, ironically, in thissame building that we're
recording this podcast in about20 years ago, you you started an
antique shop.
SPEAKER_02 (03:54):
Right.
SPEAKER_00 (03:54):
So here we are once again, this whole renaissance
cyclical nature of things.
SPEAKER_02 (03:58):
Oh, the smell of antiques or an auction house is
just Oh, yeah, exactly.
SPEAKER_00 (04:03):
No.
SPEAKER_02 (04:04):
Something that gets me excited.
SPEAKER_00 (04:06):
You you came up with a really neat idea, and I'm very
excited about this.
SPEAKER_02 (04:10):
So, with this cool idea of the two, the old and the
new, we decided to to create agame with our um our AI co-host.
That uh so the AI is going to bethe the host of this game.
Game shape.
And we're gonna be the the poorvictims of tonight.
SPEAKER_00 (04:32):
I'm a little nervous because I have no idea what it's
gonna throw at us.
SPEAKER_02 (04:35):
Um we we've gone through it, but the AI knows
it's not allowed to use any ofthe terms that we have already
seen.
SPEAKER_00 (04:41):
Yeah, we've already programmed it, yep.
SPEAKER_02 (04:43):
Um but we are gonna use um so AI is gonna ask us
technology terms, and so we'vegiven it a prompt of um what we
mean by old technology terms andthe newer technology terms.
So the prompt is um pretty muchthe turn of the last century.
So um we're talking before 1900.
(05:04):
Right, would be the oldtechnologies, so 1800s or yeah,
eighteen hundreds and back.
And behind behind that, so allthe way to ancient technologies.
SPEAKER_00 (05:16):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (05:16):
Uh because technology is something that's
just you know new to to thecommunity or new, you know, um
something that has beeninvented.
So technology is everything.
Um so and then the new isconsidered the 20th and 21st
century.
SPEAKER_00 (05:35):
So I guess also with that, um our the name that we
collaborated and came up withwas uh Tech Through Time.
SPEAKER_02 (05:46):
Tech Through Time.
SPEAKER_00 (05:47):
So then that's an inside joke between us, but um,
maybe if you comment and we'lltell you.
But the we also were like, well,what's a game show without a
like a theme song?
So we also used AI to come upand generate a theme song based
(06:10):
on a prompt, and we are justgoing to play that for you.
And if you know us, we're gonnaget ourselves started.
We're gonna get ourselvesstarted, and we're gonna play.
SPEAKER_02 (06:21):
Feeling good?
SPEAKER_00 (06:22):
Um, yeah, we'll find out.
So we're gonna go ahead and playour little theme song here,
intro, and uh there it goes.
SPEAKER_02 (06:35):
It's very exciting.
SPEAKER_00 (06:36):
It is very exciting, very 8-bit.
Yes, very 8-bit.
Now I'll tell you this.
My plan was to only do this fora few seconds, but I just need a
moment here.
SPEAKER_02 (06:47):
I am dancing.
SPEAKER_00 (06:48):
Yep.
Thankfully, there's no video tothis.
And it's only audio.
No, this is kind of cool.
Look, any of y'all played theold NES games?
Um What'd you say?
SPEAKER_02 (07:03):
DuckTales is made you think of DuckTales.
SPEAKER_00 (07:06):
Yeah, it definitely had a DuckTales uh Mega Man
Capcom vibes.
SPEAKER_02 (07:11):
Oh yeah, I can definitely see the little guy
running through.
SPEAKER_00 (07:14):
Oh yeah.
I mean my girls love to playDuckTales.
Um, they're actually, of course,the classic one.
And alright, I'm geeking outhere.
The uh the moon level isprobably one of the best uh
soundtracks of any NES game.
And uh, but then there was areboot that came out, I don't
(07:34):
know, six, seven years ago.
I don't even know what system,but we downloaded it.
Um yeah, that shows us new wherewe downloaded it, not you know,
didn't have a cartridge.
Um and so I was able toexperience ducktails with my
girls, and that was a really funtime.
So, but yeah.
Alright, that's a squirrel.
Yeah, that is a squirrel.
(07:55):
That's fine, but it's a worthysquirrel.
Alright, someone back me up outthere.
Alright, so we are going tostart our game here, and we pray
that our co-host here doesn'thave connection issues.
Alright, so here we go.
(08:18):
Alright, let's play tech throughtime.
Give us one mystery term toguess.
SPEAKER_01 (08:27):
Alright, let's do it.
Your mystery term is punch card.
What do you think?
Is that old tech or new tech?
SPEAKER_00 (08:37):
Well, I'm glad you started with uh well, yes,
actually.
Technically it is, it bridgesthe gap.
I mean, the punch card probablystarted with the loom.
Yeah.
Very early 1800s.
And but it was used up untilthrough the 70s.
I mean, you don't drop yourstack of punch cards, because
(08:59):
that's a really sad time oftrying to get everything back in
order.
SPEAKER_02 (09:03):
That's a bit tricky question there.
Yes, I don't know.
SPEAKER_00 (09:06):
I really feel like it's old and new, but it's
probably not gonna realize thateven though the punch card as a
concept started back in the veryearly 1800s, the punch card in
this case might be newtechnology.
Look, we c alright, I'm gonnaramble the answer off to it.
It can understand where we'recoming from, that we think this
(09:27):
is a mix.
unknown (09:29):
Alright.
SPEAKER_00 (09:29):
We think this is both old and new.
We know it started with a a loomback in the early 1800s and was
used probably through the 1970s,so this is kind of a bridge.
Um, but we know punch card as aits term was probably part of
the new.
SPEAKER_01 (09:50):
You nailed it.
Punch cards definitely have afascinating history.
They started out in the early1800s with the card loom, and
then they became super importantfor computers all the way
through the mid-20th century.
So they definitely break thatgap between old tech and modern
computing.
SPEAKER_02 (10:09):
Oh man, we got I'm gonna put a mark every time
we're right about that.
We we by the way are not thecomputer clear.
SPEAKER_01 (10:18):
Anything else for your podcast?
SPEAKER_02 (10:20):
We do not have Google or anything.
We do have a computer up to dothe podcast, but we will not be
searching through it or anythinglike that.
SPEAKER_00 (10:29):
I got this thing set up for sound.
I am not messing with anythingat the risk of it falling.
SPEAKER_02 (10:35):
So I'm gonna put a notch on on our side.
SPEAKER_00 (10:40):
Alright, so I guess I'll ask it to do another one.
And we we're planning on doing10, but we're just gonna see how
it goes.
I mean, when yep, so let's moveon to the next one.
Alright, give us anotherquestion.
SPEAKER_01 (10:52):
Alright, here comes your next mystery term of vacuum
tube.
What do you think?
Is that old tech or new tech?
SPEAKER_00 (11:00):
Alright, the vacuum tube, I believe, was we're gonna
say new tech, because it's afterthe 1900s.
If I'm not mistaken, I think itwas the Univac that popularized
that for data storage.
SPEAKER_02 (11:11):
Right.
That would be my guess, is isnew tech for the way that we do
this establish new as the 20thcentury and the 21st.
SPEAKER_00 (11:19):
You know, there's a whole lore of debugging as a
term because you opened thewindows, the computers generated
so much heat and bugs would comein, bugs would go around just
like your light bulb fixture,and it would actually uh create
too much heat and the bulb wouldblow, which would cause a
malfunction.
So debugging meant take the bugsaround out from the tube.
Oh, it was real bugs.
Well, that uh there are somepeople that say no, that's not
(11:41):
how the story is, but I meanactually that that is a very
common concept, so but thejury's still out whether that's
how the term came about or not.
But anyway.
SPEAKER_02 (11:50):
Gribbing.
SPEAKER_00 (11:51):
All right, cool, cool.
Let's ask it.
Alright, I'm thinking new techbecause the Univac, I believe,
might have been one of the firstcomputers to use vacuum tubes,
but it's within probably the50s.
SPEAKER_01 (12:06):
Vacuum tubes are indeed a bit of a bridge between
errors, um, but they'reconsidered old tech.
Old early 20th centuryelectronics, including radio,
television on the firstcomputer, like the computer or
multiple.
Old school, but they pulled awayfor modern electronics.
SPEAKER_00 (12:28):
All right, well, new tech is post-1900s, I think, for
the concept of this game, butI'm not arguing with the droid.
Um, so alright, throw anotherone at us.
SPEAKER_01 (12:40):
Got it.
Well, keep it in mind thatanything post-1900 can count as
modern for the game.
unknown (12:44):
Here's another term for you.
SPEAKER_01 (12:46):
Floppy disk.
What do you think?
Old tech or new tech?
SPEAKER_02 (12:51):
And it's all you, buddy, you know this.
SPEAKER_00 (12:53):
Oh, the floppy disk.
I mean, technically they therewere 10 or 8 inch ones before
the five and a quarter that, youknow, I I remember.
Don't touch the magnetic stripe.
All the posters on the wall andall that.
Yep.
Um, but the floppy disc would beconsidered new tech.
It's after the 1900s.
And that's another squirrelmoment.
(13:14):
You're talking about the tubesand all that, and I had visions
to the ancient Egyptians andthose higher uh the etchings in
the wall that have thistube-looking thing.
So I was like, if it was gonnago back to that, I was dig out.
I'm like, whoa! Yeah, that isold tech.
Um, yeah, I mean, the floppydisk is new.
Then of course, then it stillwas a floppy disk, and it was a
three and a half inch drive.
(13:34):
Then you had high density,dual-sided, all that kind of
stuff.
This is the origins of mychildhood.
Uh very strongly.
I'm like, you go for it, but Ineed to go on to the next
question here.
So all right, so the floppy diskis new tech.
You had like eight 10-inch ones,five and a quarter, three and a
half, uh data storage.
What do you think?
SPEAKER_01 (13:59):
Absolutely you're online.
The floppy disk is definitelyconsidered a new tech in the
current timeline, even thoughit's a bit crypto now.
SPEAKER_02 (14:15):
Oh, yeah, all right.
SPEAKER_01 (14:17):
That was a lot of fun.
If you ever want to do it againor need anything else, just let
me know.
SPEAKER_00 (14:25):
So jovial.
Um, these strides there are.
We're gonna keep going.
I don't know.
It it's funny when you feel likethe AI is just as excited as you
are, but I know that's a uhextrapolation we put on tech
where we try to humanize thingsthat we connect with.
Um just makes us laugh eitherway.
Um so far I'm feeling betterabout this game, but let's see
(14:47):
what's next.
Alright, let's get another one.
SPEAKER_01 (14:52):
Sure thing.
Here's your next mystery term.
Graphene.
What do you think?
Is that old tech or new tech?
SPEAKER_00 (14:59):
Okay.
Graphene is related to graphite.
And geez, when did we startmining it for use?
And I don't remember.
I remember seeing it in the newsprobably about a decade ago.
Um and it it had some reallycool properties that allowed us
(15:24):
to do things.
SPEAKER_02 (15:25):
And I'm gonna say Ooh, the steam is coming out too
easy.
SPEAKER_00 (15:30):
I wanna say new I wanna say new tech.
SPEAKER_02 (15:33):
I'll say old.
SPEAKER_00 (15:34):
Alright.
Uh she says old.
I say new.
Graphene is related to graphite,and it has a use in computing
every vague.
That was vague.
That was great.
SPEAKER_01 (15:49):
No worries at all.
Uh graphene is indeed considerednew tech.
Um it was first isolated in theearly 2000s, and it's known for
its incredible conductivity,making it uh cutting out
material and other technologyand keep going or you take it
down.
SPEAKER_00 (16:08):
All right, let's let's keep going.
SPEAKER_02 (16:09):
I don't have to.
SPEAKER_01 (16:16):
Let's keep it ongoing.
What do you think about it?
SPEAKER_02 (16:22):
No, we talk about this one a lot.
SPEAKER_00 (16:24):
Yeah, this is unfair.
And we use it.
SPEAKER_01 (16:26):
The advocates are definitely old tech.
SPEAKER_02 (16:28):
It's one of the earliest answer both back for
thousands of years.
Yeah, we knew that one.
SPEAKER_01 (16:35):
Great job.
Let me know if you're ready foranother one.
SPEAKER_00 (16:37):
All right.
You're supposed to mute it andall the way.
I did.
Um, but I think there's a delayin the muting.
Uh um, I hit it right away thistime, but for some reason
there's inconsistency in when ithears and doesn't.
SPEAKER_02 (16:49):
All right, so Yeah, we knew that when we always talk
about that one as far as it's inevery textbook.
Yeah, it it's really just partof the same old technology of um
even ancient Inca and that sortof thing too.
The the knots and the ropes andoh yeah, the rope thing.
Yeah, so it's somehow theytwisted them and it kept track
(17:10):
of uh maybe numbers or I don'tknow if they could really make
calculations with it or not, butit's the first technical
computer, ancient uh maybeGreek, when they would do the
the notches in the um they wouldturn ropes around the logs.
Oh yeah, yeah.
And it was either a notch or nota notch, so like a one or a
(17:33):
zero.
SPEAKER_00 (17:33):
So that was yeah, which is binary, which is
binary, which is the same thing.
SPEAKER_02 (17:38):
In the Inca did it, the the ancient Greeks.
Right.
And so um the abacus is reallynot that far as a concept from
all of that.
SPEAKER_00 (17:46):
And I mean I I think and I I can't remember exactly,
and I hope it doesn't ask me,but Charles Babbage had some
type of machine, and I cannotremember the particulars.
Um, but uh it built off of thatconcept, which then led to the
idea of hey, how we can make acomputer.
And if anyone in the 80sremembers Babbage's as a
(18:08):
computer store, that's where Icame from.
But anyway.
Alright.
Let's go.
Alright, let's go.
Give me another one.
SPEAKER_01 (18:17):
Alright, here we go.
Your next mystery term isBluetooth.
Blue tech.
Old tech or new tech?
SPEAKER_02 (18:23):
Oh, well definitely new.
SPEAKER_01 (18:27):
You got it.
SPEAKER_00 (18:29):
I don't know the I don't know the time frame of
meeting and came into play inthe late 1990s and is now
everywhere convinced.
SPEAKER_01 (18:37):
Oh yeah, no.
Seriously, let me know if youwant to keep going or if you
need anything else.
SPEAKER_02 (18:41):
I thought that was my kid's time, not mine's
childhood.
SPEAKER_00 (18:45):
I mean, we had like Bluetooth, I think, went more
into like speaker systems andthings like that, and but for
phones that came later.
SPEAKER_02 (18:55):
Um Well yeah, technology's out way before it's
actually in the home.
SPEAKER_00 (19:00):
Yeah, usually it's sometimes it's for a certain
market, and then once itexpands, and of course, once it
hits smartphones and it, youknow, there she wrote and that
is it.
Right.
But I'm muting this thing rightaway after SQL.
But we may we may need to giveit like five or six seconds
before getting excited becauseapparently it takes a while for
it to Alright.
Are we still?
SPEAKER_02 (19:21):
Okay, we're at six, we were thinking ten.
SPEAKER_00 (19:23):
Hey, let's do another one.
SPEAKER_01 (19:28):
Alright, let's keep it rolling.
Your next mystery term issundial.
What do you think?
Old tech or new tech?
unknown (19:36):
Alright.
SPEAKER_00 (19:37):
Are you muted yet?
SPEAKER_02 (19:39):
Oh, there he goes.
I can hear him mute.
Okay.
SPEAKER_00 (19:42):
Oh, cool.
Isn't this cool?
SPEAKER_02 (19:43):
Uh now that we know.
SPEAKER_00 (19:44):
Sundial, come on, man.
I was expecting well, we need tohave it kick it up in the last
round.
We're gonna have it do somethingcrazy.
But I mean, it's everyone knowswhat a sundial is.
SPEAKER_02 (19:52):
Right, much older.
Very, very much older.
SPEAKER_00 (19:56):
Alright, so that's ancient.
Yeah, I mean, and you know, theystarted by creating like these
obelisks and put them there.
And it actually actually that'show they could also tell um the
sun rotated because the way theshadow was and how they recorded
and communicated the distance ofthis obelisk, and then ten miles
(20:16):
down the road that obelisk, andhow the sun actually created a
shadow at a different angle anda different length.
But um anyway, so let's move onto the next one.
Well, yeah, okay.
Alright, a sundial is definitelyold tech.
And when you're done talkingabout it, move on to the next
one.
SPEAKER_01 (20:36):
You got it.
A sundial is definitely oldtech.
unknown (20:39):
Uh one of the oldest timekeeping devices using the
sun's shadow to tell the time.
All right, let's jump right intothe next one.
SPEAKER_01 (20:47):
Here's your next term, QR code.
What do you think?
Old tech or new tech?
SPEAKER_02 (20:51):
He is, he's being a little too easy.
A little too easy on us.
SPEAKER_00 (20:55):
I the first three that we did as a trial were
hard, and then now it's veryYeah, because we were typing it
trying to get whatever, and thenyeah, we got to talking to it,
and then we told it never toshow this again.
Zoro troop.
Zoro troop, yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (21:08):
Which by the way is fascinating.
SPEAKER_00 (21:09):
I don't forgot what it was.
SPEAKER_02 (21:11):
The early, it's almost um the earliest movie
kind of and it's the animationthat turns.
Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_00 (21:18):
Using um like a candlelight and and yeah, and
then it turned and allowed thelight to get passed through and
it created images.
So it's kind of like a hologram,but it was more of a was it like
a projector.
Well, yeah, projector, but theway it's trying to create the
image.
Yeah, that's cool.
SPEAKER_02 (21:34):
Um that one was interesting than it has been.
SPEAKER_00 (21:39):
Um but the QR code also is, you know, it had yeah,
one nose the kind of bit lookingbox like thing, which has three
squares in the corners thatallows it to understand the
orientation of the image.
If I'm not mistaken, and I'llask this thing.
I think Nissan was involved inthe creation of the QR code and
(22:02):
the assembly line.
I could be completely wrong.
SPEAKER_02 (22:04):
But if I'm I'm be a fun fact if it were.
SPEAKER_00 (22:08):
It would be.
Well, I mean, we'll see here.
unknown (22:10):
Alright.
SPEAKER_00 (22:11):
Alright, the QR code is new tech.
Obviously, it is a block with uhthree corner points that allow
for the technology to understandand read the image, which then
translates into either a URL orother text.
But if I'm not mistaken, wasNissan involved in the creation
(22:32):
of it in the assembly line?
SPEAKER_01 (22:37):
You're absolutely right.
QR codes are definitely newtech, and they were indeed
created by a subsidiary ofToyota called Dentso Wave.
You've got that spot on.
Great job.
Let's uh let's keep going ifyou're up for it.
SPEAKER_02 (22:55):
Okay that's really cool.
Yeah, because uh as it passedthrough how much technology has
come from the the auto industry,that's amazing.
SPEAKER_00 (23:03):
Well, I mean the military and audio industry are
going to be your two biggest uhthings because um that's where
the pressure is, like audioindustry, to make it quicker,
more efficient.
SPEAKER_03 (23:13):
Right.
SPEAKER_00 (23:14):
So if in the assembly line, if something is
passing through, it's able tocommunicate information, you're
able to step in and say, okay,actually I need you to do it
this way because there's been achange in the process.
So you're able to communicatewith the robotic mechanisms to
do everything.
So anyway, but that's cool.
Alright, we we need to kick thisup.
This is um this is yeah, we donot expect this.
(23:37):
Alright, you've been doing agreat job, and we appreciate it,
but we want to go harder, solet's think of this as like
sudden death bonus round.
Uh, throw something at us thatwe may struggle with.
SPEAKER_01 (23:52):
Alright, let's kick it up an odds for the bonus
round.
Here's a tricky one.
Difference engine.
Is that old tech or new tech?
Let's see if you can get thisone.
SPEAKER_02 (24:02):
Oh, he laughed.
SPEAKER_00 (24:04):
Yeah, I didn't like that laugh.
SPEAKER_02 (24:06):
This is a little evil.
SPEAKER_00 (24:09):
I believe the difference engine is related to
Charles Babbage.
This early 1800s.
SPEAKER_02 (24:15):
Ooh.
Was that just because it was inyour head or what do you mean in
my head?
Well, you had already discussedthat, so but yeah, and that's
what I'm saying.
SPEAKER_00 (24:25):
Well, well, I I think because I mentioned it
earlier, it it became, you know,the the resume was on the top of
the pile now of reference.
So does the difference engine isthat old tech?
I'm thinking early 1800s.
It's related to what CharlesBabbage uh created, right?
SPEAKER_01 (24:51):
Exactly.
SPEAKER_00 (24:52):
Oh my gosh.
Oh no, keep talking.
SPEAKER_01 (24:58):
Got it.
The difference engine was indeedan early mechanical computer
designed by Charles Babbage inthe early 1800s, making it a
fascinating piece of old techhistory.
unknown (25:09):
Great job on that one.
SPEAKER_01 (25:10):
Let me know if you want to keep going with more
challenging terms or if there'sanything else I can do for you.
SPEAKER_02 (25:17):
Uh to do ten is one more.
SPEAKER_00 (25:19):
To do ten is one more.
SPEAKER_02 (25:20):
All right, so we have one no and one move we got
wrong and then um uh eight thatwe got right.
SPEAKER_00 (25:27):
All right, so let's do one more.
Make it hard, man.
Make it hard.
unknown (25:33):
All right.
SPEAKER_01 (25:34):
Let's go for a tough one.
Here's your final challenge.
unknown (25:37):
Teletype machine.
What do you think?
Old tech or new tech?
SPEAKER_01 (25:41):
Let's see if this one can stump yet.
SPEAKER_00 (25:47):
I'm waiting so it doesn't hear me.
Okay, I think it went to sleep.
All right.
Teletype, I mean, it's oldertech.
I mean we were able to printwith you know, like sliding in.
(26:07):
Yeah, actually it's whereuppercase and lowercase came
from.
Um because if you thought aboutall the little pieces you had to
slide into, then or is noteletype would be You're
thinking printing press.
I'm thinking printing press.
Okay, we're talking about likethe um like Morse code, right?
SPEAKER_02 (26:23):
Right.
All right, which is still oldtech.
SPEAKER_00 (26:26):
It's still old tech.
SPEAKER_02 (26:27):
My great-great-grandfather did
Morse code.
SPEAKER_00 (26:29):
Yeah, I know.
SPEAKER_02 (26:30):
And you want to talk about the story about uh well,
it's the reason we we live in aplace called Brace of Virginia
because in uh we used to becalled Saint Tammany as a uh
charter town, and then becausethe train came through and my
grandfather um well my greatgreat great grandfather gave
money um money, land and thenvery close.
(26:55):
Right, uh gave land to the umthe railroad um to to build the
railroad station and then alsothe fact that it was actually
easier to teletype or to tele umto Morse Coast Bracie than it
was Saint Tammoni, which wasvery long, that um they started
(27:15):
calling it Bracie, even thoughthe the town originally was St.
Tammany, they just called itBracie, and so that is where we
live now.
SPEAKER_00 (27:22):
Yeah, which is the last name that got you know it
was easier.
Yep, that's really cool.
And so yeah, that technically isit gets back to the history
thing we're talking about here.
SPEAKER_02 (27:32):
Well, that's right at the turn of the century, so
we're talking about that storyis the turn of the century.
Which I would say before that.
SPEAKER_00 (27:40):
So now we have a argument here of when it came
through.
I want to say it was beforethat, because I mean if it was
used for the railroad, yeah.
If I'm not mistaken, it mighthave been not too long after
World War II.
I mean, not World War II, geez,listen to me, Civil War, that we
(28:00):
started stringing lines forcommunication.
I mean, because I mean, think oflike I mean, even like I want to
say maybe 1880s.
SPEAKER_02 (28:11):
So if we're talking about late 1800s, then that oh,
he really did do a hard onebecause it's right on the cusp
before we did the timeline.
SPEAKER_00 (28:20):
You know, the the I'm just gonna I'm gonna go out
there and say eighteen eightiesand let him say I'm wrong.
But it's old tech, but I justwant to hear the correction it
might give me the decade.
Alright, we're we were talking,it's old tech based on what
we're talking about for thegame.
I want to say maybe 1880s.
Where are we?
SPEAKER_01 (28:41):
You're absolutely right.
The teletech machine is indeedold tech.
It came into use in the late19th and early 20th centuries
and was a big part of uh earlytelecommunications.
Great job on that one.
You really build it?
SPEAKER_02 (28:53):
Right there on the line.
All right.
SPEAKER_01 (29:00):
I'm glad you enjoyed that.
You didn't ask a job with thegame.
SPEAKER_00 (29:11):
All right, so you of course understand our podcast
and everything.
Um will you say, you know,goodbye to our listeners and um
just speak to anything you wantto?
SPEAKER_01 (29:27):
Absolutely.
Uh well, thank you so much toeveryone for tuning in and
joining us for this fun round ofof tech to time.
It's been a blast uh exploringthese tech mysteries with you
all.
Until next time, stay curiousand keep having fun with
technology.
SPEAKER_00 (29:41):
All right, thank you.
All right, bye bye.
SPEAKER_02 (29:44):
Stay curious.
SPEAKER_00 (29:46):
I'll do, I know.
We already have a slogan, butum, I like that too.
SPEAKER_02 (29:51):
Stay curious.
Stay curious, right?
So absolutely, I will do that.
SPEAKER_00 (29:56):
Well, I mean, I think we have we've reached our
time a lot, man.
I mean, this has been A lot offun.
We may do it again.
I don't know.
Well, it depends on y'all'sfeedback and all that.
We might, and we might take itin a different direction, but
you need to let us know whatmight be interesting to you.
SPEAKER_02 (30:10):
Um we are hoping to do uh as we go through some
interviews, um, so going into uha little bit of the small
business realm as opposed to thetechnology.
Um, so uh we are also we're atechnology company, but also
small business.
So we we wanted to kind of go inthat direction too.
So hopefully in the next fewepisodes we'll eventually have a
(30:32):
few little interviews and thatkind of thing.
SPEAKER_00 (30:33):
Yeah, we'd like to have, and our co-host is fun and
everything, but we would like tohave another human maybe talks.
Another human, yeah.
Yeah, that may be able to jointhe conversation and um you
don't, you know, uh someonelocal that may, you know, we're
just reach out and we have acouple people in mind already
(30:54):
that we'll probably be talkingto, but it would be really neat
just to just talk about smallbusiness, or even if you're an
individual that has a backgroundin technology, maybe something
in the military and you know,like um a lot of our no, no, no.
I'm not talking like um area,you know.
(31:15):
Um I'm not even gonna say it,but no.
Um, you know, people thatbecause the military obviously
had some of the onset oftechnology, you know, some of
the like you know first harddrive, first whatever.
And um I I've had people comeback.
SPEAKER_02 (31:32):
We wouldn't have the jumps without it.
SPEAKER_00 (31:33):
What's that?
SPEAKER_02 (31:34):
We wouldn't have had the jumps of technology without.
SPEAKER_00 (31:35):
No, you're exactly right.
But I mean, a lot of thesepeople are very proud of what
they did, so it would be reallyneat if you know anyone, if um
if you have your your your yourfolks, your grandparents,
whatever, it would be great.
Reach out please, because wewould love to just collaborate
and just talk about how all thishas come about.
But also like Melanie was sayingon the small business realm, um,
(31:57):
you know, just having aconversation about what it's
like to have a small businessand um, you know, we can talk
about the you know the theenjoyable moments and the
challenging moments and all ofthat.
So but um and just before wesign off here, we we just first
want to thank you all foreveryone's support and feedback
(32:19):
for it has been lovely feedback,yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (32:23):
It really has kept the nerves from being too far,
right?
Too too high.
SPEAKER_00 (32:26):
And um, but I mean this podcast thing really I
mean, honestly, if you haven'tlooked at the first one, look at
it, and I said, oops, I presseda button, and that was about as
prepared as we were for thatone.
And um so raw.
Right, it's raw, right?
Um, so we just just it'ssomething we have grown to love,
(32:48):
and and we've put it out thereand as a podcast, um you can
find us on, you know, of course,uh iHeart Radio, Apple Podcast,
YouTube, your Smart TV, um,Spotify.
I mean, if it if you log in yoursmart TV and do a search, you
can find it, and that freaked usout.
(33:09):
But um, you can ask your Alexaand other entities in droids.
I'm sure they can find us.
Oh, of course.
These are not the droids you'relooking for.
Right.
Exactly.
But you can even go to ourwebsite and there's a podcast
link, and we have the playerembedded in there as well.
SPEAKER_02 (33:28):
Winternetweb.com.
Always go to the website.
That's the easiest way to do it.
SPEAKER_00 (33:31):
Winternetweb.com.
I know a lot of people say likewinter web or winter net.
The reason why it's winternetweb is between the W's you
have the word internet.
See?
SPEAKER_02 (33:41):
Isn't that cute?
SPEAKER_00 (33:41):
Yep, isn't that cute?
And I thought about it whilecutting grass one day, and I
don't like cutting grass.
Um and so you have to think ofsomething, right?
I had to think of something tomake money.
So I was like, well, not cutgrass.
Right, so what am I gonna do?
Oh, yeah, there's that webdesign thing I've always done.
So why don't I make that abusiness?
That is the actual story, by theway.
Um all right, so I think this isspoiler alert, right?
(34:07):
I should have held off thereason and did a spoiler, but
um, yeah, this has been fun.
So I think this ends our segmentof wired together.
So unplugging for now.
SPEAKER_02 (34:20):
But always stay connected.
All right.
Welcome back to another episodeof Wired Together with your
Winternet Web Technology host.
I'm Melanie Winter.
SPEAKER_00 (00:11):
And I'm Jason Winter.
SPEAKER_02 (00:13):
And today we are going to talk about something
near and dear to our hearts.
When we think about what all ofthe the who we are of everything
that we do, we are this weird,interesting dichotomy of the old
and the new.
And so we are we operate out ofa very old building.
(00:42):
And we have a very very much alove of our definitely an
affinity for.
An affinity for the older style.
We have a very old house.
(01:04):
And so we we love that kind ofuh feel that uh a little bit
broken, a little bit squeaky.
That is something we're gonnalike really jump into.
Um and so we have in in ourhouse um, you know, butter
churns and and hurricanelanguage.
(01:24):
Quite a few.
Um, you know, it it is just kindof something that is us and um
something we value, and ofcourse our value system.
We're kind of old people in inin heart.
Um so we definitely old souls.
We have more of that, you know,kind of self-sustaining
do-it-yourself values and and umbeing connected to people in in
(01:48):
the old community way.
Um so we we love that.
And then of course, what makesus kind of flutter away from
that or not away, but it's it'sa contrast, but it's kind of the
contrast, it's still very is um,you know, we have children we've
raised who are actuallytroubleshooters, uh they're very
good at um taking something uhon in the tech world and and
(02:14):
making it work for them andtroubleshooting.
Yeah um they we do have a lot ofthe latest technology in the
house, which is wild because youknow, you get a butter churn and
like a um you know, Alexa droidthat talks to you um and plays
whatever music we want.
Um and so that's kind of cool,you know, the the two things
(02:37):
going together, and then kind ofa uh a philosophy of what we
believe in is with our oldsystem values.
We also have a tech is freedomkind of philosophy.
So we talk about this a lot.
Um what all of these newtechnologies mean for the the
freedom of things, you know, tobe able to do to be
self-sustaining through tech.
SPEAKER_03 (02:58):
Right.
SPEAKER_02 (02:59):
Which goes back to the self-sustaining ideas of the
values.
So it kind of goes together,even though it sounds like it's
opposite or um, well, I I mean Iwould say that you gotta know
history to know where it'sgoing, people say that.
SPEAKER_00 (03:13):
So I think having an understanding of that history
gives you a respect and also ayou know, we see how I mean
looking at our house, you caneasily, you know, it's really
fun.
If you do any demolition, youknow, any of you out there that
have restored an older home, youcan kind of see um how things
(03:33):
have come along and how thetechnologies have changed as you
get behind the wall and you seecertain things.
So by seeing what was there, itgives you a respect for it, but
also an understanding of what isto come.
And also, ironically, in thissame building that we're
recording this podcast in about20 years ago, you you started an
antique shop.
SPEAKER_02 (03:54):
Right.
SPEAKER_00 (03:54):
So here we are once again, this whole renaissance
cyclical nature of things.
SPEAKER_02 (03:58):
Oh, the smell of antiques or an auction house is
just Oh, yeah, exactly.
SPEAKER_00 (04:03):
No.
SPEAKER_02 (04:04):
Something that gets me excited.
SPEAKER_00 (04:06):
You you came up with a really neat idea, and I'm very
excited about this.
SPEAKER_02 (04:10):
So, with this cool idea of the two, the old and the
new, we decided to to create agame with our um our AI co-host.
That uh so the AI is going to bethe the host of this game.
Game shape.
And we're gonna be the the poorvictims of tonight.
SPEAKER_00 (04:32):
I'm a little nervous because I have no idea what it's
gonna throw at us.
SPEAKER_02 (04:35):
Um we we've gone through it, but the AI knows
it's not allowed to use any ofthe terms that we have already
seen.
SPEAKER_00 (04:41):
Yeah, we've already programmed it, yep.
SPEAKER_02 (04:43):
Um but we are gonna use um so AI is gonna ask us
technology terms, and so we'vegiven it a prompt of um what we
mean by old technology terms andthe newer technology terms.
So the prompt is um pretty muchthe turn of the last century.
So um we're talking before 1900.
(05:04):
Right, would be the oldtechnologies, so 1800s or yeah,
eighteen hundreds and back.
And behind behind that, so allthe way to ancient technologies.
SPEAKER_00 (05:16):
Yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (05:16):
Uh because technology is something that's
just you know new to to thecommunity or new, you know, um
something that has beeninvented.
So technology is everything.
Um so and then the new isconsidered the 20th and 21st
century.
SPEAKER_00 (05:35):
So I guess also with that, um our the name that we
collaborated and came up withwas uh Tech Through Time.
SPEAKER_02 (05:46):
Tech Through Time.
SPEAKER_00 (05:47):
So then that's an inside joke between us, but um,
maybe if you comment and we'lltell you.
But the we also were like, well,what's a game show without a
like a theme song?
So we also used AI to come upand generate a theme song based
(06:10):
on a prompt, and we are justgoing to play that for you.
And if you know us, we're gonnaget ourselves started.
We're gonna get ourselvesstarted, and we're gonna play.
SPEAKER_02 (06:21):
Feeling good?
SPEAKER_00 (06:22):
Um, yeah, we'll find out.
So we're gonna go ahead and playour little theme song here,
intro, and uh there it goes.
SPEAKER_02 (06:35):
It's very exciting.
SPEAKER_00 (06:36):
It is very exciting, very 8-bit.
Yes, very 8-bit.
Now I'll tell you this.
My plan was to only do this fora few seconds, but I just need a
moment here.
SPEAKER_02 (06:47):
I am dancing.
SPEAKER_00 (06:48):
Yep.
Thankfully, there's no video tothis.
And it's only audio.
No, this is kind of cool.
Look, any of y'all played theold NES games?
Um What'd you say?
SPEAKER_02 (07:03):
DuckTales is made you think of DuckTales.
SPEAKER_00 (07:06):
Yeah, it definitely had a DuckTales uh Mega Man
Capcom vibes.
SPEAKER_02 (07:11):
Oh yeah, I can definitely see the little guy
running through.
SPEAKER_00 (07:14):
Oh yeah.
I mean my girls love to playDuckTales.
Um, they're actually, of course,the classic one.
And alright, I'm geeking outhere.
The uh the moon level isprobably one of the best uh
soundtracks of any NES game.
And uh, but then there was areboot that came out, I don't
(07:34):
know, six, seven years ago.
I don't even know what system,but we downloaded it.
Um yeah, that shows us new wherewe downloaded it, not you know,
didn't have a cartridge.
Um and so I was able toexperience ducktails with my
girls, and that was a really funtime.
So, but yeah.
Alright, that's a squirrel.
Yeah, that is a squirrel.
(07:55):
That's fine, but it's a worthysquirrel.
Alright, someone back me up outthere.
Alright, so we are going tostart our game here, and we pray
that our co-host here doesn'thave connection issues.
Alright, so here we go.
(08:18):
Alright, let's play tech throughtime.
Give us one mystery term toguess.
SPEAKER_01 (08:27):
Alright, let's do it.
Your mystery term is punch card.
What do you think?
Is that old tech or new tech?
SPEAKER_00 (08:37):
Well, I'm glad you started with uh well, yes,
actually.
Technically it is, it bridgesthe gap.
I mean, the punch card probablystarted with the loom.
Yeah.
Very early 1800s.
And but it was used up untilthrough the 70s.
I mean, you don't drop yourstack of punch cards, because
(08:59):
that's a really sad time oftrying to get everything back in
order.
SPEAKER_02 (09:03):
That's a bit tricky question there.
Yes, I don't know.
SPEAKER_00 (09:06):
I really feel like it's old and new, but it's
probably not gonna realize thateven though the punch card as a
concept started back in the veryearly 1800s, the punch card in
this case might be newtechnology.
Look, we c alright, I'm gonnaramble the answer off to it.
It can understand where we'recoming from, that we think this
(09:27):
is a mix.
unknown (09:29):
Alright.
SPEAKER_00 (09:29):
We think this is both old and new.
We know it started with a a loomback in the early 1800s and was
used probably through the 1970s,so this is kind of a bridge.
Um, but we know punch card as aits term was probably part of
the new.
SPEAKER_01 (09:50):
You nailed it.
Punch cards definitely have afascinating history.
They started out in the early1800s with the card loom, and
then they became super importantfor computers all the way
through the mid-20th century.
So they definitely break thatgap between old tech and modern
computing.
SPEAKER_02 (10:09):
Oh man, we got I'm gonna put a mark every time
we're right about that.
We we by the way are not thecomputer clear.
SPEAKER_01 (10:18):
Anything else for your podcast?
SPEAKER_02 (10:20):
We do not have Google or anything.
We do have a computer up to dothe podcast, but we will not be
searching through it or anythinglike that.
SPEAKER_00 (10:29):
I got this thing set up for sound.
I am not messing with anythingat the risk of it falling.
SPEAKER_02 (10:35):
So I'm gonna put a notch on on our side.
SPEAKER_00 (10:40):
Alright, so I guess I'll ask it to do another one.
And we we're planning on doing10, but we're just gonna see how
it goes.
I mean, when yep, so let's moveon to the next one.
Alright, give us anotherquestion.
SPEAKER_01 (10:52):
Alright, here comes your next mystery term of vacuum
tube.
What do you think?
Is that old tech or new tech?
SPEAKER_00 (11:00):
Alright, the vacuum tube, I believe, was we're gonna
say new tech, because it's afterthe 1900s.
If I'm not mistaken, I think itwas the Univac that popularized
that for data storage.
SPEAKER_02 (11:11):
Right.
That would be my guess, is isnew tech for the way that we do
this establish new as the 20thcentury and the 21st.
SPEAKER_00 (11:19):
You know, there's a whole lore of debugging as a
term because you opened thewindows, the computers generated
so much heat and bugs would comein, bugs would go around just
like your light bulb fixture,and it would actually uh create
too much heat and the bulb wouldblow, which would cause a
malfunction.
So debugging meant take the bugsaround out from the tube.
Oh, it was real bugs.
Well, that uh there are somepeople that say no, that's not
(11:41):
how the story is, but I meanactually that that is a very
common concept, so but thejury's still out whether that's
how the term came about or not.
But anyway.
SPEAKER_02 (11:50):
Gribbing.
SPEAKER_00 (11:51):
All right, cool, cool.
Let's ask it.
Alright, I'm thinking new techbecause the Univac, I believe,
might have been one of the firstcomputers to use vacuum tubes,
but it's within probably the50s.
SPEAKER_01 (12:06):
Vacuum tubes are indeed a bit of a bridge between
errors, um, but they'reconsidered old tech.
Old early 20th centuryelectronics, including radio,
television on the firstcomputer, like the computer or
multiple.
Old school, but they pulled awayfor modern electronics.
SPEAKER_00 (12:28):
All right, well, new tech is post-1900s, I think, for
the concept of this game, butI'm not arguing with the droid.
Um, so alright, throw anotherone at us.
SPEAKER_01 (12:40):
Got it.
Well, keep it in mind thatanything post-1900 can count as
modern for the game.
unknown (12:44):
Here's another term for you.
SPEAKER_01 (12:46):
Floppy disk.
What do you think?
Old tech or new tech?
SPEAKER_02 (12:51):
And it's all you, buddy, you know this.
SPEAKER_00 (12:53):
Oh, the floppy disk.
I mean, technically they therewere 10 or 8 inch ones before
the five and a quarter that, youknow, I I remember.
Don't touch the magnetic stripe.
All the posters on the wall andall that.
Yep.
Um, but the floppy disc would beconsidered new tech.
It's after the 1900s.
And that's another squirrelmoment.
(13:14):
You're talking about the tubesand all that, and I had visions
to the ancient Egyptians andthose higher uh the etchings in
the wall that have thistube-looking thing.
So I was like, if it was gonnago back to that, I was dig out.
I'm like, whoa! Yeah, that isold tech.
Um, yeah, I mean, the floppydisk is new.
Then of course, then it stillwas a floppy disk, and it was a
three and a half inch drive.
(13:34):
Then you had high density,dual-sided, all that kind of
stuff.
This is the origins of mychildhood.
Uh very strongly.
I'm like, you go for it, but Ineed to go on to the next
question here.
So all right, so the floppy diskis new tech.
You had like eight 10-inch ones,five and a quarter, three and a
half, uh data storage.
What do you think?
SPEAKER_01 (13:59):
Absolutely you're online.
The floppy disk is definitelyconsidered a new tech in the
current timeline, even thoughit's a bit crypto now.
SPEAKER_02 (14:15):
Oh, yeah, all right.
SPEAKER_01 (14:17):
That was a lot of fun.
If you ever want to do it againor need anything else, just let
me know.
SPEAKER_00 (14:25):
So jovial.
Um, these strides there are.
We're gonna keep going.
I don't know.
It it's funny when you feel likethe AI is just as excited as you
are, but I know that's a uhextrapolation we put on tech
where we try to humanize thingsthat we connect with.
Um just makes us laugh eitherway.
Um so far I'm feeling betterabout this game, but let's see
(14:47):
what's next.
Alright, let's get another one.
SPEAKER_01 (14:52):
Sure thing.
Here's your next mystery term.
Graphene.
What do you think?
Is that old tech or new tech?
SPEAKER_00 (14:59):
Okay.
Graphene is related to graphite.
And geez, when did we startmining it for use?
And I don't remember.
I remember seeing it in the newsprobably about a decade ago.
Um and it it had some reallycool properties that allowed us
(15:24):
to do things.
SPEAKER_02 (15:25):
And I'm gonna say Ooh, the steam is coming out too
easy.
SPEAKER_00 (15:30):
I wanna say new I wanna say new tech.
SPEAKER_02 (15:33):
I'll say old.
SPEAKER_00 (15:34):
Alright.
Uh she says old.
I say new.
Graphene is related to graphite,and it has a use in computing
every vague.
That was vague.
That was great.
SPEAKER_01 (15:49):
No worries at all.
Uh graphene is indeed considerednew tech.
Um it was first isolated in theearly 2000s, and it's known for
its incredible conductivity,making it uh cutting out
material and other technologyand keep going or you take it
down.
SPEAKER_00 (16:08):
All right, let's let's keep going.
SPEAKER_02 (16:09):
I don't have to.
SPEAKER_01 (16:16):
Let's keep it ongoing.
What do you think about it?
SPEAKER_02 (16:22):
No, we talk about this one a lot.
SPEAKER_00 (16:24):
Yeah, this is unfair.
And we use it.
SPEAKER_01 (16:26):
The advocates are definitely old tech.
SPEAKER_02 (16:28):
It's one of the earliest answer both back for
thousands of years.
Yeah, we knew that one.
SPEAKER_01 (16:35):
Great job.
Let me know if you're ready foranother one.
SPEAKER_00 (16:37):
All right.
You're supposed to mute it andall the way.
I did.
Um, but I think there's a delayin the muting.
Uh um, I hit it right away thistime, but for some reason
there's inconsistency in when ithears and doesn't.
SPEAKER_02 (16:49):
All right, so Yeah, we knew that when we always talk
about that one as far as it's inevery textbook.
Yeah, it it's really just partof the same old technology of um
even ancient Inca and that sortof thing too.
The the knots and the ropes andoh yeah, the rope thing.
Yeah, so it's somehow theytwisted them and it kept track
(17:10):
of uh maybe numbers or I don'tknow if they could really make
calculations with it or not, butit's the first technical
computer, ancient uh maybeGreek, when they would do the
the notches in the um they wouldturn ropes around the logs.
Oh yeah, yeah.
And it was either a notch or nota notch, so like a one or a
(17:33):
zero.
SPEAKER_00 (17:33):
So that was yeah, which is binary, which is
binary, which is the same thing.
SPEAKER_02 (17:38):
In the Inca did it, the the ancient Greeks.
Right.
And so um the abacus is reallynot that far as a concept from
all of that.
SPEAKER_00 (17:46):
And I mean I I think and I I can't remember exactly,
and I hope it doesn't ask me,but Charles Babbage had some
type of machine, and I cannotremember the particulars.
Um, but uh it built off of thatconcept, which then led to the
idea of hey, how we can make acomputer.
And if anyone in the 80sremembers Babbage's as a
(18:08):
computer store, that's where Icame from.
But anyway.
Alright.
Let's go.
Alright, let's go.
Give me another one.
SPEAKER_01 (18:17):
Alright, here we go.
Your next mystery term isBluetooth.
Blue tech.
Old tech or new tech?
SPEAKER_02 (18:23):
Oh, well definitely new.
SPEAKER_01 (18:27):
You got it.
SPEAKER_00 (18:29):
I don't know the I don't know the time frame of
meeting and came into play inthe late 1990s and is now
everywhere convinced.
SPEAKER_01 (18:37):
Oh yeah, no.
Seriously, let me know if youwant to keep going or if you
need anything else.
SPEAKER_02 (18:41):
I thought that was my kid's time, not mine's
childhood.
SPEAKER_00 (18:45):
I mean, we had like Bluetooth, I think, went more
into like speaker systems andthings like that, and but for
phones that came later.
SPEAKER_02 (18:55):
Um Well yeah, technology's out way before it's
actually in the home.
SPEAKER_00 (19:00):
Yeah, usually it's sometimes it's for a certain
market, and then once itexpands, and of course, once it
hits smartphones and it, youknow, there she wrote and that
is it.
Right.
But I'm muting this thing rightaway after SQL.
But we may we may need to giveit like five or six seconds
before getting excited becauseapparently it takes a while for
it to Alright.
Are we still?
SPEAKER_02 (19:21):
Okay, we're at six, we were thinking ten.
SPEAKER_00 (19:23):
Hey, let's do another one.
SPEAKER_01 (19:28):
Alright, let's keep it rolling.
Your next mystery term issundial.
What do you think?
Old tech or new tech?
unknown (19:36):
Alright.
SPEAKER_00 (19:37):
Are you muted yet?
SPEAKER_02 (19:39):
Oh, there he goes.
I can hear him mute.
Okay.
SPEAKER_00 (19:42):
Oh, cool.
Isn't this cool?
SPEAKER_02 (19:43):
Uh now that we know.
SPEAKER_00 (19:44):
Sundial, come on, man.
I was expecting well, we need tohave it kick it up in the last
round.
We're gonna have it do somethingcrazy.
But I mean, it's everyone knowswhat a sundial is.
SPEAKER_02 (19:52):
Right, much older.
Very, very much older.
SPEAKER_00 (19:56):
Alright, so that's ancient.
Yeah, I mean, and you know, theystarted by creating like these
obelisks and put them there.
And it actually actually that'show they could also tell um the
sun rotated because the way theshadow was and how they recorded
and communicated the distance ofthis obelisk, and then ten miles
(20:16):
down the road that obelisk, andhow the sun actually created a
shadow at a different angle anda different length.
But um anyway, so let's move onto the next one.
Well, yeah, okay.
Alright, a sundial is definitelyold tech.
And when you're done talkingabout it, move on to the next
one.
SPEAKER_01 (20:36):
You got it.
A sundial is definitely oldtech.
unknown (20:39):
Uh one of the oldest timekeeping devices using the
sun's shadow to tell the time.
All right, let's jump right intothe next one.
SPEAKER_01 (20:47):
Here's your next term, QR code.
What do you think?
Old tech or new tech?
SPEAKER_02 (20:51):
He is, he's being a little too easy.
A little too easy on us.
SPEAKER_00 (20:55):
I the first three that we did as a trial were
hard, and then now it's veryYeah, because we were typing it
trying to get whatever, and thenyeah, we got to talking to it,
and then we told it never toshow this again.
Zoro troop.
Zoro troop, yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (21:08):
Which by the way is fascinating.
SPEAKER_00 (21:09):
I don't forgot what it was.
SPEAKER_02 (21:11):
The early, it's almost um the earliest movie
kind of and it's the animationthat turns.
Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_00 (21:18):
Using um like a candlelight and and yeah, and
then it turned and allowed thelight to get passed through and
it created images.
So it's kind of like a hologram,but it was more of a was it like
a projector.
Well, yeah, projector, but theway it's trying to create the
image.
Yeah, that's cool.
SPEAKER_02 (21:34):
Um that one was interesting than it has been.
SPEAKER_00 (21:39):
Um but the QR code also is, you know, it had yeah,
one nose the kind of bit lookingbox like thing, which has three
squares in the corners thatallows it to understand the
orientation of the image.
If I'm not mistaken, and I'llask this thing.
I think Nissan was involved inthe creation of the QR code and
(22:02):
the assembly line.
I could be completely wrong.
SPEAKER_02 (22:04):
But if I'm I'm be a fun fact if it were.
SPEAKER_00 (22:08):
It would be.
Well, I mean, we'll see here.
unknown (22:10):
Alright.
SPEAKER_00 (22:11):
Alright, the QR code is new tech.
Obviously, it is a block with uhthree corner points that allow
for the technology to understandand read the image, which then
translates into either a URL orother text.
But if I'm not mistaken, wasNissan involved in the creation
(22:32):
of it in the assembly line?
SPEAKER_01 (22:37):
You're absolutely right.
QR codes are definitely newtech, and they were indeed
created by a subsidiary ofToyota called Dentso Wave.
You've got that spot on.
Great job.
Let's uh let's keep going ifyou're up for it.
SPEAKER_02 (22:55):
Okay that's really cool.
Yeah, because uh as it passedthrough how much technology has
come from the the auto industry,that's amazing.
SPEAKER_00 (23:03):
Well, I mean the military and audio industry are
going to be your two biggest uhthings because um that's where
the pressure is, like audioindustry, to make it quicker,
more efficient.
SPEAKER_03 (23:13):
Right.
SPEAKER_00 (23:14):
So if in the assembly line, if something is
passing through, it's able tocommunicate information, you're
able to step in and say, okay,actually I need you to do it
this way because there's been achange in the process.
So you're able to communicatewith the robotic mechanisms to
do everything.
So anyway, but that's cool.
Alright, we we need to kick thisup.
This is um this is yeah, we donot expect this.
(23:37):
Alright, you've been doing agreat job, and we appreciate it,
but we want to go harder, solet's think of this as like
sudden death bonus round.
Uh, throw something at us thatwe may struggle with.
SPEAKER_01 (23:52):
Alright, let's kick it up an odds for the bonus
round.
Here's a tricky one.
Difference engine.
Is that old tech or new tech?
Let's see if you can get thisone.
SPEAKER_02 (24:02):
Oh, he laughed.
SPEAKER_00 (24:04):
Yeah, I didn't like that laugh.
SPEAKER_02 (24:06):
This is a little evil.
SPEAKER_00 (24:09):
I believe the difference engine is related to
Charles Babbage.
This early 1800s.
SPEAKER_02 (24:15):
Ooh.
Was that just because it was inyour head or what do you mean in
my head?
Well, you had already discussedthat, so but yeah, and that's
what I'm saying.
SPEAKER_00 (24:25):
Well, well, I I think because I mentioned it
earlier, it it became, you know,the the resume was on the top of
the pile now of reference.
So does the difference engine isthat old tech?
I'm thinking early 1800s.
It's related to what CharlesBabbage uh created, right?
SPEAKER_01 (24:51):
Exactly.
SPEAKER_00 (24:52):
Oh my gosh.
Oh no, keep talking.
SPEAKER_01 (24:58):
Got it.
The difference engine was indeedan early mechanical computer
designed by Charles Babbage inthe early 1800s, making it a
fascinating piece of old techhistory.
unknown (25:09):
Great job on that one.
SPEAKER_01 (25:10):
Let me know if you want to keep going with more
challenging terms or if there'sanything else I can do for you.
SPEAKER_02 (25:17):
Uh to do ten is one more.
SPEAKER_00 (25:19):
To do ten is one more.
SPEAKER_02 (25:20):
All right, so we have one no and one move we got
wrong and then um uh eight thatwe got right.
SPEAKER_00 (25:27):
All right, so let's do one more.
Make it hard, man.
Make it hard.
unknown (25:33):
All right.
SPEAKER_01 (25:34):
Let's go for a tough one.
Here's your final challenge.
unknown (25:37):
Teletype machine.
What do you think?
Old tech or new tech?
SPEAKER_01 (25:41):
Let's see if this one can stump yet.
SPEAKER_00 (25:47):
I'm waiting so it doesn't hear me.
Okay, I think it went to sleep.
All right.
Teletype, I mean, it's oldertech.
I mean we were able to printwith you know, like sliding in.
(26:07):
Yeah, actually it's whereuppercase and lowercase came
from.
Um because if you thought aboutall the little pieces you had to
slide into, then or is noteletype would be You're
thinking printing press.
I'm thinking printing press.
Okay, we're talking about likethe um like Morse code, right?
SPEAKER_02 (26:23):
Right.
All right, which is still oldtech.
SPEAKER_00 (26:26):
It's still old tech.
SPEAKER_02 (26:27):
My great-great-grandfather did
Morse code.
SPEAKER_00 (26:29):
Yeah, I know.
SPEAKER_02 (26:30):
And you want to talk about the story about uh well,
it's the reason we we live in aplace called Brace of Virginia
because in uh we used to becalled Saint Tammany as a uh
charter town, and then becausethe train came through and my
grandfather um well my greatgreat great grandfather gave
money um money, land and thenvery close.
(26:55):
Right, uh gave land to the umthe railroad um to to build the
railroad station and then alsothe fact that it was actually
easier to teletype or to tele umto Morse Coast Bracie than it
was Saint Tammoni, which wasvery long, that um they started
(27:15):
calling it Bracie, even thoughthe the town originally was St.
Tammany, they just called itBracie, and so that is where we
live now.
SPEAKER_00 (27:22):
Yeah, which is the last name that got you know it
was easier.
Yep, that's really cool.
And so yeah, that technically isit gets back to the history
thing we're talking about here.
SPEAKER_02 (27:32):
Well, that's right at the turn of the century, so
we're talking about that storyis the turn of the century.
Which I would say before that.
SPEAKER_00 (27:40):
So now we have a argument here of when it came
through.
I want to say it was beforethat, because I mean if it was
used for the railroad, yeah.
If I'm not mistaken, it mighthave been not too long after
World War II.
I mean, not World War II, geez,listen to me, Civil War, that we
(28:00):
started stringing lines forcommunication.
I mean, because I mean, think oflike I mean, even like I want to
say maybe 1880s.
SPEAKER_02 (28:11):
So if we're talking about late 1800s, then that oh,
he really did do a hard onebecause it's right on the cusp
before we did the timeline.
SPEAKER_00 (28:20):
You know, the the I'm just gonna I'm gonna go out
there and say eighteen eightiesand let him say I'm wrong.
But it's old tech, but I justwant to hear the correction it
might give me the decade.
Alright, we're we were talking,it's old tech based on what
we're talking about for thegame.
I want to say maybe 1880s.
Where are we?
SPEAKER_01 (28:41):
You're absolutely right.
The teletech machine is indeedold tech.
It came into use in the late19th and early 20th centuries
and was a big part of uh earlytelecommunications.
Great job on that one.
You really build it?
SPEAKER_02 (28:53):
Right there on the line.
All right.
SPEAKER_01 (29:00):
I'm glad you enjoyed that.
You didn't ask a job with thegame.
SPEAKER_00 (29:11):
All right, so you of course understand our podcast
and everything.
Um will you say, you know,goodbye to our listeners and um
just speak to anything you wantto?
SPEAKER_01 (29:27):
Absolutely.
Uh well, thank you so much toeveryone for tuning in and
joining us for this fun round ofof tech to time.
It's been a blast uh exploringthese tech mysteries with you
all.
Until next time, stay curiousand keep having fun with
technology.
SPEAKER_00 (29:41):
All right, thank you.
All right, bye bye.
SPEAKER_02 (29:44):
Stay curious.
SPEAKER_00 (29:46):
I'll do, I know.
We already have a slogan, butum, I like that too.
SPEAKER_02 (29:51):
Stay curious.
Stay curious, right?
So absolutely, I will do that.
SPEAKER_00 (29:56):
Well, I mean, I think we have we've reached our
time a lot, man.
I mean, this has been A lot offun.
We may do it again.
I don't know.
Well, it depends on y'all'sfeedback and all that.
We might, and we might take itin a different direction, but
you need to let us know whatmight be interesting to you.
SPEAKER_02 (30:10):
Um we are hoping to do uh as we go through some
interviews, um, so going into uha little bit of the small
business realm as opposed to thetechnology.
Um, so uh we are also we're atechnology company, but also
small business.
So we we wanted to kind of go inthat direction too.
So hopefully in the next fewepisodes we'll eventually have a
(30:32):
few little interviews and thatkind of thing.
SPEAKER_00 (30:33):
Yeah, we'd like to have, and our co-host is fun and
everything, but we would like tohave another human maybe talks.
Another human, yeah.
Yeah, that may be able to jointhe conversation and um you
don't, you know, uh someonelocal that may, you know, we're
just reach out and we have acouple people in mind already
(30:54):
that we'll probably be talkingto, but it would be really neat
just to just talk about smallbusiness, or even if you're an
individual that has a backgroundin technology, maybe something
in the military and you know,like um a lot of our no, no, no.
I'm not talking like um area,you know.
(31:15):
Um I'm not even gonna say it,but no.
Um, you know, people thatbecause the military obviously
had some of the onset oftechnology, you know, some of
the like you know first harddrive, first whatever.
And um I I've had people comeback.
SPEAKER_02 (31:32):
We wouldn't have the jumps without it.
SPEAKER_00 (31:33):
What's that?
SPEAKER_02 (31:34):
We wouldn't have had the jumps of technology without.
SPEAKER_00 (31:35):
No, you're exactly right.
But I mean, a lot of thesepeople are very proud of what
they did, so it would be reallyneat if you know anyone, if um
if you have your your your yourfolks, your grandparents,
whatever, it would be great.
Reach out please, because wewould love to just collaborate
and just talk about how all thishas come about.
But also like Melanie was sayingon the small business realm, um,
(31:57):
you know, just having aconversation about what it's
like to have a small businessand um, you know, we can talk
about the you know the theenjoyable moments and the
challenging moments and all ofthat.
So but um and just before wesign off here, we we just first
want to thank you all foreveryone's support and feedback
(32:19):
for it has been lovely feedback,yeah.
SPEAKER_02 (32:23):
It really has kept the nerves from being too far,
right?
Too too high.
SPEAKER_00 (32:26):
And um, but I mean this podcast thing really I
mean, honestly, if you haven'tlooked at the first one, look at
it, and I said, oops, I presseda button, and that was about as
prepared as we were for thatone.
And um so raw.
Right, it's raw, right?
Um, so we just just it'ssomething we have grown to love,
(32:48):
and and we've put it out thereand as a podcast, um you can
find us on, you know, of course,uh iHeart Radio, Apple Podcast,
YouTube, your Smart TV, um,Spotify.
I mean, if it if you log in yoursmart TV and do a search, you
can find it, and that freaked usout.
(33:09):
But um, you can ask your Alexaand other entities in droids.
I'm sure they can find us.
Oh, of course.
These are not the droids you'relooking for.
Right.
Exactly.
But you can even go to ourwebsite and there's a podcast
link, and we have the playerembedded in there as well.
SPEAKER_02 (33:28):
Winternetweb.com.
Always go to the website.
That's the easiest way to do it.
SPEAKER_00 (33:31):
Winternetweb.com.
I know a lot of people say likewinter web or winter net.
The reason why it's winternetweb is between the W's you
have the word internet.
See?
SPEAKER_02 (33:41):
Isn't that cute?
SPEAKER_00 (33:41):
Yep, isn't that cute?
And I thought about it whilecutting grass one day, and I
don't like cutting grass.
Um and so you have to think ofsomething, right?
I had to think of something tomake money.
So I was like, well, not cutgrass.
Right, so what am I gonna do?
Oh, yeah, there's that webdesign thing I've always done.
So why don't I make that abusiness?
That is the actual story, by theway.
Um all right, so I think this isspoiler alert, right?
(34:07):
I should have held off thereason and did a spoiler, but
um, yeah, this has been fun.
So I think this ends our segmentof wired together.
So unplugging for now.
SPEAKER_02 (34:20):
But always stay connected.
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