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What are the rules of Girl Code? In this episode, we break down the top three unwritten rules that keep friendships strong:

  • Don’t air it out online
  • Hold each other accountable (with grace)
  • Respect boundaries (yes, even with siblings 👀)

From personal stories to real-life lessons, we share how loyalty, honesty, and maturity shape sisterhood. Whether you’ve had to check a friend, rethink your circle, or wonder where the line really is, this conversation is for you.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Rule number one I don't care how mad you get at
your girl, don't take it to theinternet.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
I don't even play like that, if you find yourself
in a situation, evaluate yourFrench circle, re-evaluate it
and ask yourself what level am Ioperating at?
Confident women are notintimidated by each other.

Speaker 1 (00:24):
I don't want nobody around me that I feel like I got
to walk on eggshells, with yougoing to date my baby dad.
You going to take care of mykids.

Speaker 2 (00:32):
He's yours Like a friend, take him.
I know what Josh brings to thetable and I know what I bring to
the table and therefore there'sreally there's no competition,
right, we eating together that'swhy we sitting here, let me
feed you eat, everybody eat.

Speaker 1 (00:53):
Come on, if you're awesome eating girls, eat it up
there you go eat it up allrighty, check in.

Speaker 2 (01:15):
So I got a book, let's check in.
But um, before we check in, Igot this book I got from five
below.
It's called the Power ofNumbers.

Speaker 1 (01:26):
I like numbers.
What's?

Speaker 2 (01:27):
your favorite number.

Speaker 1 (01:28):
Seven, seven seven.

Speaker 2 (01:32):
Well, we know what seven represents in the Bible.
Let's see if there's anyalignment to what it represents
in the universe.
I'm going to read just thefirst part.
So seven, it says the thinker.
I'm going to read just thefirst part.
So seven, it says the thinker.
Deep thoughts come naturally tonumber seven, both analytical

(01:56):
and perceptive.
They seek knowledge of allworlds and realms, from what we
can see and touch to what we canimagine and I would have never
said that word like like that,because this reminds me of
TurboTax what we can imagine andintuit like intuition.

Speaker 1 (02:12):
But the fact that I just said intuit like that
messed me up and I just seen itin my brain the red TurboTax
Right it just messed me up.

Speaker 2 (02:21):
Okay, they are philosophers and intellectuals.
There's more there's a wholechapter on number seven.
How do you feel about that,though?

Speaker 1 (02:31):
That's me A little bit.

Speaker 2 (02:32):
Yeah, a lot of it A lot of it, a lot of it.
You be thinking.

Speaker 1 (02:36):
Mm-hmm, I know what's your favorite number 22.
, 22.

Speaker 2 (02:43):
22.
Wisdom knowledge.

Speaker 1 (02:44):
So why didn't you find my number 777?
It ain't enough pages, no it'sthat.

Speaker 2 (02:49):
Oh, you said three sevens.
I thought you were saying Ithought you were saying seven,
like no, okay, 777.
777.

Speaker 1 (03:02):
So Trying to cut me short.

Speaker 2 (03:06):
so her real number, angel number 777.
We live in a fast-paced worldand it often seems as if the
world is only moving faster.
Angel number 777 provides anantidote to go, go, go, asking
you to sit, sit, sit, sit incalmness and stillness.

(03:27):
And it goes further to talkabout mindfulness.
Although it's trending, there'sstudies behind that quiet time
and what it could do for yourstress, your health, overall
anxiety.

Speaker 1 (03:39):
Hence why I don't watch TV.
Yeah, yeah, whew, yeah, I don'twatch TV y'all, that's powerful
quiet time.
Yeah, whew, yeah I watch TVy'all.

Speaker 2 (03:47):
That's powerful and that's important.
Yeah, Because I watch TV.
Maybe that's why I can't watchit.

Speaker 1 (03:53):
It has to be like a really good series for me to be
like oh, I'm about to watch TV,Right.

Speaker 2 (03:59):
So what you be doing Thinking In my head.
Do you write it down?
Because I write stuff down.

Speaker 1 (04:06):
I journal a lot yeah me too.
So I journal a lot.
But I love music.

Speaker 2 (04:09):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't so wait, you'll sit there
and just listen to music, orlisten to music and journal.

Speaker 1 (04:17):
No, I can only do one at a time.
Okay, because when I journal,before I journal, I read would
you be reading?

Speaker 2 (04:29):
my bible.

Speaker 1 (04:29):
So disciplined, because I want my journaling to
be intentional well, that'sawesome.

Speaker 2 (04:37):
My journaling takes a different course, because it's
usually a release, because it'susually a release.
So yeah, so I journal, get itout my head onto paper, then
read my Bible.

Speaker 1 (04:53):
Okay, then I read my Bible.
Everything's coming out, though.

Speaker 2 (04:57):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (04:58):
When I journal everything, I'm not saying I'm
journaling reading my Bible,then journaling about what I
read.
I'm journaling reading my Bible, then journaling about what I
read.
I'm still releasing.
It's just something I do Likeread, pray journal.

Speaker 2 (05:11):
That's cool, though, because maybe your journal looks
very different from mine.

Speaker 1 (05:14):
No, Maybe different situations.

Speaker 2 (05:22):
I got angry journals.

Speaker 1 (05:24):
I think my journal is angry when I get mad, so that's
what I need to do when I getmad is journal.

Speaker 2 (05:35):
But you read the Bible first.

Speaker 1 (05:37):
Yeah, it takes me a couple days to talk about what I
was mad about and journal it.
Does that make sense?
I won't journal when I'm angry.
What do you do when you'reangry?
I just lay back.
I call my mom, my HRprofessional, my mom is my

(05:57):
business partner, my HR businesspartner.
I call my mom and then I justrelax, just breathe, pray, just
be chilling.
I listen to music To calm you.
That's real.
The old me used to be going off.
Yeah, and some people that,like my family, they probably

(06:19):
don't know this version of me,so they probably think I still
be just going off.
Takes a lot to go off, thoughit's a lot of energy.

Speaker 2 (06:24):
They probably think I still be just going off.
Takes a lot to go off, thoughit's a lot of energy.
That's why I just be ignoringpeople half the time now.

Speaker 1 (06:27):
It don't take that much energy to go off.
Yes, it does.
No it doesn't, because here'sthe thing If I'm going off on
you, it's not just because Ijust feel like it, it's because
I've been triggered because youmust have did something.
I'm not just going to go off onanybody, so you must have did

(06:52):
something to me that I wouldnever in a million years have
thought to do to you.
So it's not going to be hardfor me to go off because I'm
looking at you like I don't wantpeople to do that to.

Speaker 2 (06:59):
I didn't say it was hard, it ain't hard, it's not
hard, it's just a lot of energyfor me, for you, yeah, because
it's like I don't like peoplewasting my time, because I don't
feel like they even deservethat part of me.
I need to get there.

Speaker 1 (07:13):
But I'm not there.

Speaker 2 (07:14):
Yet, like in this day and age, like it would be a
hell, like I don't want to say aheck of a lot again, because
last time I said that on thepodcast my husband said you said
that kind of hard.
That probably did a lot, a lotbehind.
You probably did say it hardtoo.
I did.
So we just ain't gonna say thatpart right now, but try to let
it out in other ways.

(07:34):
But, like you said, if you getfed up but I don't like how I
feel- after you know what I'msaying.

Speaker 1 (07:39):
That and that's the reason why, when I tell you all
the time like I would just be,just be chilling and I would
just stay away, yeah, because Idon't want, I love and I love
hard, so I'm not even going toput myself in jeopardy to feel
like somebody might do me wrong,somebody that I really care
about.

Speaker 2 (08:00):
Right and.

Speaker 1 (08:00):
I might have to like come out of my face to go off on
somebody.
I don't want to do that.
I've done that a lot, me too,so I don't want to do that, no
more it is exhausting.

Speaker 2 (08:15):
That's how I feel, and I just had to check myself a
lot because it's just like I'mvery passionate and I'm so chill
you know what I'm saying.
And so I don't like that sideof me.
And so I had to recognize like,let them just be, let them
wallow in their BS and let Godhandle it, right.

(08:35):
And then, but you know how I befeeling, though, because I'll
tell somebody, I'll tell someoneelse, you know what I'm saying,
but my response to that persongonna be very like matter of
fact, but I'm not saying myresponse to Josh and my sisters
may not be, you know what I mean, but I also don't like people

(08:57):
to see me sweat, so I don't likethem to know they trigger me,
because I don't like them tohave authority over my feelings.
I'm not perfect.
I still have my moments, butthat's just how my thought
process is about it.

Speaker 1 (09:12):
That's a good way of thinking.
That's a good way of thinking.
See, there we go, another levelof the soft girl era that I got
to graduate to.
That's soft, I guess.
Instead of being a rough riderall the time running off at the
mouth, that's soft, I guess.
Instead of being a rough riderall the time running off at the
mouth, that's soft.
Yeah, those days are over.
Yeah, those days are over forme.

(09:33):
Yeah, those days are prettymuch over for the most part,
because now the people thattrigger me I don't have any
contact with them.

Speaker 2 (09:44):
That's why I'm where I am and as far away as I am too
, I mean.
There's other reasons too.
Obviously.
I'm in a town where I'm not byclose friends.
I'm far, yeah, ain't no joke.
I'm not perfect, though.

Speaker 1 (10:02):
No one is.

Speaker 2 (10:03):
Real quick.
My angel number is 22 for anumber of different reasons, but
, um, this is what it has to sayabout 22.
If number 11 is the person withthe plan, then number 22 is the
person with the tools to turnthe plan into action Period.
That is so me.
While 11 is the dreamer, 22 isthe dynamo.

(10:27):
22s are the unsung heroes, thepeople behind the scenes, the
people with their heads downmaking things happen.

Speaker 1 (10:41):
Wow, that was deep.
You have that book from FiveBelow.

Speaker 2 (10:48):
I'm about to cry.

Speaker 1 (10:49):
No, no, no I really am about to cry, please don't.
That's why I'm saying no,please don't.
I can't take that right now.
I can't cry after that.
It's funny.
No, please, please don't.
Thank you.
Not, you Not right now.
Not right now.
Thanks, sorry, was thatinsensitive?

Speaker 2 (11:08):
No, I needed that at that moment All right.
Because I don't think I got notime for that.
No, not today, not today.
No, no, not today.
That's very representative ofmy life.
You know, in a lot of differentareas, even at work life.
You know in a lot of differentareas, even at work.
You know, and it's okay, I workbecause I get paid for it

(11:29):
exactly, but it's the heart whenyou don't get paid all right,
that was a cool little something.
But before we jump into ourtopic, just checking in how have
you been?
How's the last couple days beenfor you?
Pretty.

Speaker 1 (11:41):
Pretty good, pretty, pretty cool.
Can I tell you what happened tome?
Yeah, alright, so I'm getting asmoothie because I'm on a
lifestyle change, so I'm gettinga smoothie this morning, mind
my business, and some little boyhe could have been no more than
five or six he scoops up to meand say why are you looking at

(12:04):
me like that?
For?
Sir, I don't even know you,where did you come from?
He said why you looking at melike that for?
And all I could do was laughbecause in my mind I'm like,

(12:26):
because your nose running, it'seight o'clock and your nose
running, his nose was running,and then his mom just, or
whoever he was with just comesand just was like come on.
So I'm like she could don'tthat because she ain't correct
you ain't correct this littleboy.
You go going to come up to andhe had this scooter.

(12:47):
He took his scooter, scooted upand in my mind I feel like he
did that like, turn, like, that,turn, like why you look at me,
why you look at me like that.
For, first of all, take fourout of it.
Take four out of the vocabulary.
You sound like DJ so bad.
Why you look at me like that.
For I was like sir, listen, Iwant no smoke.

(13:09):
I want no smoke.
We are in a crime town, okay, Iwant no smoke with your five
six-year-old behind, so I ain'teven answer him.
But other than that, I'mfeeling good.
I just had to.
Oh God, yep, eight o'clock inthe morning All I was doing was
getting my green smoothie.
Two smoothies a day keeps thecarbs away.

Speaker 2 (13:31):
I know that's right.
I'm about to say that in myhead.
I made that up too.
We might have to make it into asong.

Speaker 1 (13:42):
Two smoothies a day.

Speaker 2 (13:49):
Keeps the carbs away, away.
Hey, we got it.

Speaker 1 (13:51):
Don't play.

Speaker 2 (13:53):
Hey, that what you got outside.

Speaker 1 (13:57):
Alright, we ain't gonna talk about this little boy
.
No more Cause if he watching, Igot a son and some nephews.

Speaker 2 (14:05):
That's funny.
What's up with you?
I'm good.
A son and some nephews, that'sfunny.
What's up with you?
I'm good, you know, justbalancing life.
When I came downstairs with mybun up here, dj was like oh,
mommy, you so fine.
I said who you hear that fromand what is you talking about?
He's like you, look good, mommy, you look good.

(14:26):
I said thank you, it's yourfour.
Is you talking about?
He's like you, look good, mommy, you look good.
I said thank you, it's yourfour-year-old self just talking.
It's the kids he love, his mom,he in that stage.
Yeah, that's good.
Yeah, he just think I'm sobeautiful you are.
Oh, thank you.
Don't cry, I'm not Y'all, it'sthat time of the month.

Speaker 1 (14:46):
That's what we really need to be talking about.

Speaker 2 (14:49):
Right, because the emotions are emotional.

Speaker 1 (14:52):
The emotions be emotional.
I'm on an emotional rollercoaster.
We just going to keep stoppingevery time like that.
Oh my.

Speaker 2 (15:03):
God, because I do it in my head.

Speaker 1 (15:05):
It's like the ADD make a song out of everything
and it just Stop saying that,because my head be moving like
your head and I'm not diagnosingmyself with ADD.
Don't.

Speaker 2 (15:15):
But if you do, you find some help.

Speaker 1 (15:20):
Because when I was, have you been diagnosed?
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (15:23):
Okay, when I was a teenager.

Speaker 1 (15:25):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (15:26):
That's a whole story.
Because it wasn't easy, Ithought I was losing my mind.

Speaker 1 (15:35):
And cut this out.
Cut this out, not even you, forreal.
Yeah, all right.

Speaker 2 (15:44):
Somebody need to hear it.

Speaker 1 (15:45):
In a couple months they're going to be eating us up
Like she only said that becauseshe got ADD.
She only said that because shegot ADD.
She don't know what she talkingabout.
Remember, she told us she gotADD, y'all.

Speaker 2 (15:57):
No way, because they eat you up?
Yeah, they do.
But let me tell you ADD andintellect are two different
things.
Good job.

Speaker 1 (16:07):
I didn't know that.
Yeah, intelligence and ADD.
Oh, yes, yes, I did know that.
Yes, I did.

Speaker 2 (16:12):
You know they're very intelligent.
I'm just playing with y'all.

Speaker 1 (16:16):
Who.

Speaker 2 (16:17):
I love ADD, but nah, somebody's going to need to hear
that story one day.
Okay, because it's not typicalone day.
Because it's not, um, it's nottypical and because I was always
in high functioning, like highIQ classes and stuff, it wasn't
understood as that and so gotcha, that makes sense, yeah, so it

(16:42):
just kept me busy that makes,because they be ready to eat us
up, because they been eating meup about that.

Speaker 1 (16:51):
Real.
I said what I said, though youmeant it.
Go watch the podcast, right,anyway.

Speaker 2 (17:01):
Yeah, but yeah, I'm good Living, balancing life,
finding my routine.
Everything's not for everybody,and so I just you know I'm
about to get used like the kidsgoing back to school soon too,
so just trying to get the houseorganized and everything All
right.

Speaker 1 (17:20):
Well, that's our check-in.

Speaker 2 (17:22):
All right, what's our topic for today?
Girl code.
We had a long intro.
This time we did Girl code, soI will let you lead it.

Speaker 1 (17:34):
Three.
So we need to know what do youguys think?
The top three things are forthe girl code.
What are the top three rules fora girl code, right, mm-hmm?
So I have to always give alittle backstory?
All right, go ahead.
I didn't have a girl codegrowing up.

(17:55):
I didn't know it automatically.
Oh, because I had all brothers,mm-hmm.
I was a baby and I was selfish,so the girl code wasn't a girl
code for me, it was a josh's wayor no way code.
Yeah, but then I learned I'vebeen learning rule number one I

(18:19):
don't care how mad you get atyour girl, at your sister, your
friend, whatever, don't take itto the internet.
Oh yeah, don't do that.
Because we say things when weare upset, when we're mad.
It's just human nature to saythings like to hurt somebody,

(18:42):
right?
We all, we're mad.
So you just say not that youmean the things that you say,
but you say it in the heat ofthe moment.
Why go to the internet toexpose your friends that's been
your friends for five years,three years, ten years plus.
Don't do that.
Don't bring these outsidersinto your relationship, into
their your friends, yourex-friend, whatever into their

(19:04):
personal life because, let's say, the friend was out here doing
something strange for somechange, while she was your
friend, you was cool with yourfriend doing something strange
for some change, so don't try toswitch up now.
Sis, right, stand 10 toes downthat both of y'all was cool with

(19:27):
doing something strange forsome change.
Leave it off of the net leaveit.

Speaker 2 (19:34):
I agree, yes, because I'll be ready to fight.
Talk about energy, because I'mmature now.
So I said that because that'smy first normal reaction and
response to things.
And then my second brain kickedin and it was like Dad, you
wouldn't even do that, because Idon't even think you would care
at this point, because thefirst people to run to the

(19:57):
Internet are the ones lookingfor fans.
They're looking for people, andwe said this about guys
sometimes looking for fans.
They're looking for people, andwe said this about guys
sometimes they want validation,they want support, they want
that rah, rah, rah type stuffand it's like you're not worth
my time, you're not worth myenergy.
I'm not giving you what youwant and I don't condone it

(20:20):
because I feel like I wouldn'tdo that to somebody I care about
and to me that tells what typeof friend that person is.
So I know where you belong in mylife now and every situation
we've been in before I'm goingto question Because I'm going to
be like dang, was she really myfriend those times that I
backed that person up?
Should I have?

(20:42):
Did they really do what thatperson said they did Right and I
had their back?
Like that's the type ofquestions I start asking myself
when people show their truecolors.

Speaker 1 (20:52):
Yeah, no for real.

Speaker 2 (20:54):
I got one that's kind of tied to that.

Speaker 1 (20:56):
What.

Speaker 2 (20:57):
Correct your friends in private, you know what I'm
saying Mm.
I'm saying regardless of whatthey do on public.
Yeah, that is tied to that yeah,because I feel like as friends,
like even if you're out andsomething happens, right,
because it could be a coupledifferent situations where it's
like like I might say, come on,it's not worth it, like I might

(21:20):
do that, but I'm not going, I'mnot going to embarrass my friend
, like I'm not going to do thatand I'm not going to have her
question my relationship withher, and especially if I don't
know the full story, becausethere's some instances where I
may not know the full story butthe the first thing I'm going to
do is be like not here, like weain't doing this, not right now

(21:44):
?

Speaker 1 (21:44):
Yeah, not right now.

Speaker 2 (21:45):
It ain't worth it, like let's go, and then we get
home and you be like I'm likegirl now you know.

Speaker 1 (21:53):
And that runs into number two Holding your friends
accountable.

Speaker 2 (22:01):
Yeah, grown women we got to do that, we got to do
that.

Speaker 1 (22:07):
Like, just don't think.
All my friends know and I don'thave a lot of people that I call
friends, but everyone that I'mclose to- know, but my
girlfriends they know, if you'relooking for somebody to agree
with everything you're saying,don't call josh, yeah, same,
because I'm definitely same,because I'm definitely not going

(22:32):
to agree, because I'm gonnalook at it now that I've grown
so much.
I'm looking at it fromeverybody's perspective.
Like, well, let me figure outwhy such and such was acting
like this towards you.
Oh, did you ever take inconsideration their feelings?
Because a lot of the times Iwas, um, labeled one way like

(22:56):
selfish and stuff like that,sometimes back in the day, but
nobody took in consideration,like what I was going through.
They just expected me to alwaysbe there and always come
through for them and nobody tookin consideration that I was a
team mom, so the fun that myfriends were having I couldn't
always jump and have that fun.

(23:17):
You know what I mean.
So just speaking from experience, like, hold your friends
accountable and take yourselfout of your shoes sometimes and
put yourself in their shoes,because life, be life, be a life
in, and we don't be knowing.

(23:38):
Although you might think, yeah,I talk to my friend every day,
or I talk to my friend every day, or I talk to my friend here
and there, you really never knowwhat goes on behind closed
doors in their homes.
Not forget the homes, forgetanything physical, mentally uh,
my mental day-to-day compared toyours might come be, might be
completely different.
We're facing different thingsat all times, so it's just hold

(24:04):
them accountable and give grace.
I agree, hold them accountableand give grace, I have empathy
for people.

Speaker 2 (24:13):
Like back in the day I used to get so mad I could say
some very hurtful things.
That's me and not on purpose.
It's like I've always been thenice person, like I've always
been calm, always been like realrational.
But if you made me mad, I'mgoing to say some crazy thing to

(24:37):
you.
My daughter.
Act like me.
I was thinking of what she said.

Speaker 1 (24:45):
She said I said.

Speaker 2 (24:45):
You said that, lord jesus, help us girl, oh god.
But anyway, back on track,holding your friends accountable
.
I live by that for sure,because we're not perfect and
we're not always going to get itright, and I need that same
type of love for my friends,like I need people to challenge
me sometimes, because you onlygrow when you're put in

(25:10):
positions that you've never beenin Right, and I really learned
that through sports.
Like not to even go there, butjust for an analogy, is like
right now I'm trying to get intowalking again and so I'm
walking around the wholeneighborhood, and so last week
I'm like this is becoming easy.

(25:31):
I need to add one more laparound because I need to
challenge myself and I need togrow, I need to get better, I
need to increase my endurance.
A lot of people don't like to bechallenged.
They take everything as a fightrather than a challenge, and
there's there are two differentthings.
Just because I'm challengingyou doesn't mean I dislike you

(25:53):
and it doesn't mean that I wantto fight with you.
I'm just challenging you tolook at a different perspective.

Speaker 1 (26:00):
So I think it's important Holding your friend
accountable on the receiving end.
You don't have to be in defensemode, yeah, and I can hold you
accountable two ways.
I can hold you accountable tosay, well, you were wrong.
I'm just using you as anexample.
You were wrong for talking tohim like that.

(26:22):
Or I can hold you accountable,like, have you been studying for
that test?
Yeah, so it's two ways.
Yeah, Get you together andstill get you together.
Right, because we got to holdeach other accountable.
Accountability partner, exactly, and I would expect the same if
we're going to level up I don'tknow about every, I don't know

(26:46):
about y'all, right, buteverything attached to me is
going to win.
Say that again.
So everything attached to me isgoing to win.
So, therefore, if I'm holdingyou accountable.
Hold me accountable.
We got to win.
You know I'm winning.
We got to win Like period.

Speaker 2 (27:07):
Like let's eat.

Speaker 1 (27:08):
We all going to eat, let's eat.
You know it.
And goes right back to doing itin private.
I don't have to hold youaccountable in front of
everybody.
Now, if them people come inhere and they think they about
to just say whatever they wantabout you and you could be dead
wrong no, you're not Girl.
But soon as they get up out ofPee Pee's lounge.

(27:30):
And why you do that?
Because you was wrong, but notin front of the people.

Speaker 2 (27:35):
Yo, I have two sisters, so this is real life.
This is real life Because therehave been many a times that we
go out and had to throw somehands and then I'm like, well,
what was we fighting?

Speaker 1 (27:50):
for Exactly.

Speaker 2 (27:53):
And then come to find out the older one.
Yeah, because she be ready andshe got that personality.
That's like she just chill andshe got like just a strong aura
and she, everybody can't takethat, everybody can't handle it.

Speaker 1 (28:12):
That's and that's me, not to veer off but everybody
can't handle my aura.
So it's like she mean, yep, she, she don't know how to talk to
people.
No, you insecure me.
No, I know how to talk topeople.
You're insecure and that hasnothing to do with me, that's a
you problem.
But anyway, back to our girlcode.

Speaker 2 (28:34):
Yo, I'm gonna just say this now if we have a
conversation later about meholding Josh accountable in any
type of relationshipconversation, it will probably
be that.
It will probably be thatbecause I have a feeling first
of all, because where you?

Speaker 1 (28:55):
trying to go with this because I got time today
because I can see it.

Speaker 2 (29:00):
I can see it, but could see it.
I could see it.
But you know what?
God gonna send you?
A man that's gonna soften youso quick that you're gonna be
like I don't let you say firstof all mr clean, hand me there
oh see, I knew okay.
So that's the type she needs analpha man, because I'm trying
to prepare the audience.

Speaker 1 (29:20):
No, that's not what we doing.
Listen, yeah, I need all ofthat, but this ain't the time
nor the place.

Speaker 2 (29:25):
She needs an alpha and she needs a confident man,
not someone who's secondguessing themselves, not someone
who don't know who they are.
She needs a God-fearing man.

Speaker 1 (29:38):
Listen, in this era of my life, this journey of my
life, I don't want nobody aroundme.
The girl cold, yeah, I don'twant nobody around me that I
feel like I got to walk oneggshells with and you shouldn't
or especially if y'all know meand to know that I'm trying to
do better with my mouth and thatnothing I'm saying is

(29:59):
intentionally to hurt anybodyand I'm always consciously
working on my delivery.
If I have to walk on eggshellsaround anybody, stay away from
me.
Yeah, you don't want that.
I don't want that energy, Ijust don't.

Speaker 2 (30:13):
Because you know what it is.
Some people are probablyintimidated by you.

Speaker 1 (30:18):
Maybe so, but that's the them and God problem.
That's, yeah, 100%.

Speaker 2 (30:23):
They need to go talk to God about why they don't feel
like that about themselves.
100% their problem, because youcould only let someone
intimidate you.
You know what I'm sayingExactly.
You're not responsible fortheir feelings and I know that.

Speaker 1 (30:39):
And I know that.

Speaker 2 (30:42):
That's 100% of them problems, so I agree with that
that's tough.

Speaker 1 (30:46):
Yeah, I've been dealing with that all my life.
All my life.
Yeah, that sucks.
I ain't gonna lie, it's hardit's really hard and I'm about
to get emotional.
It's okay cause.

Speaker 2 (30:58):
I could give you a hug.
I know I'm about to getemotional.
It's okay, because I could giveyou a hug, I know.

Speaker 1 (31:01):
I'm all right.
No, it really sucks to be agirl's girl, right?
And because you love hard andyou so passionate and that's
another part I'm passionate andI'm passionate about my friends.
So, and I'm territorial and Idon't want nobody to hurt my
people because if you're hurtingher, you're hurting me, so I'm

(31:25):
passionate about that.
When I got your back, I'mstanding ten toes down on the
side of you, behind you, infront of you, whatever.
So don't make me feel like Igotta walk on eggshells, because
that's a quick way.

Speaker 2 (31:39):
You're misunderstood because I'm direct, but you know
what it is.
You are direct and it's notwrong with that.
Like, people who are yourfriends should know how you're
coming regardless, and that'sthe good thing about being
direct is they know what they'regonna get from you and so,
basically, don't bring me no bs.
You know what I mean and wewere straight.
But I also feel like this whenyou find yourself in those

(32:02):
situations, and I feel like youknow this, so maybe I should
talk to other people.
If you find yourself in asituation, evaluate your French
circle, reevaluate it and askyourself what level am I
operating at?
Because not to pull the game ofhere versus there, but

(32:24):
confident women are notintimidated by each other.
They're not intimidated by eachother Because I know what Josh
brings to the table and I knowwhat I bring to the table and
therefore there's really,there's no competition Right, we
eating together.
That's why we sitting here, letme feed you eat, everybody eat.

Speaker 1 (32:47):
Come on, if y'all some eating girls eat it up
there, you go eat it up, yeahand I'm sorry y'all weren't
raised and me being an alphafemale is because I was raised
with alphas, like it's in myblood to be an alpha.
It's either in you or it ain'tthere.

(33:09):
You go all right, one more girl.
One more girl cool.

Speaker 2 (33:15):
We had a long intro, so let's.

Speaker 1 (33:18):
This is a question for the girl.
Cool.
How do you feel about this?
Are brothers off limits for thegirl code?

Speaker 2 (33:29):
they gotta wait till we pass a certain age, because
if it's like high school andearly 20s, yes, 100, completely,
completely.
However, I have brothers andthere's a lot of people who got
their feelings hurt period, yeah, but they were warned that part

(33:50):
.

Speaker 1 (33:51):
So I'm not gonna say, well, let me, let me take, let
me throw this back, take it backa little bit.
Ashley feels like that's offlimits period, because she's
looking at it like we've hadthese conversations.
So she's like, no, because Ilook at him like my brother.

(34:11):
So if we all friends andsisters, that's off limits.
But in my mind, right, you'regrown, I'm grown, I'm going to
tell you, don't do it, dependingon which person it is brother,
cousin, all right, because Ihave cousins that are like my
brothers, same.
So, brother, cousin, if youdon't take heed to the message,

(34:35):
you're on your own, yep.
And at the end of the day, if Igot to pick a side, it's going
to be my brothers, yep and atthe end of the day, if I gotta
pick a side, it's gonna be mybrothers, it my.

Speaker 2 (34:44):
I can't.
You must got some real saints,because no, what do you mean?

Speaker 1 (34:48):
like?

Speaker 2 (34:49):
because they being wrong and I'll be telling them.
So, if you got, friends.

Speaker 1 (34:55):
If you have friends, that's always coming around.
Your family events and thingsgo left and I'm hosting
something at my house for myfamily and my friends when I
pick my side, I mean my brothers, are you mean?
Yeah, like if I have to choosewho, if there's an invitation
list, and I gotta choose who'sgonna come.
Oh yeah, my brothers and if youfeel uncomfortable

(35:17):
uncomfortable about being aroundmy brothers that's on you.
Yeah, If it's like yeah, yeah,because I'm about to say I'm
only going to choose the rightside.
No, now, as a woman, I'm goingto always let you know that I'm
a woman first, and you got to dowhat you got to do, but then
I'm also going to let you knowthat I had told you 100% Don't

(35:39):
do that.
And my brother is going to takethis personal.
But this ain't about you, it'sabout all y'all, but it's the
truth.

Speaker 2 (35:47):
But it is the truth, and it really depends on how
close the friends are too,because I feel like those who
are super close, they won'treally try it honestly.

Speaker 1 (35:59):
Yeah, you're right, the ones who are super close.

Speaker 2 (36:01):
It's more like family .

Speaker 1 (36:02):
It's more like family and I think that's where Ash
was going with it too Like no,we family, we don't do that.
You know what I mean, so I getit.

Speaker 2 (36:10):
But like definitely there's some things.

Speaker 1 (36:15):
I have all I have brothers, and I'm going to just
leave it right there.

Speaker 2 (36:22):
How do you feel about them just smashing?

Speaker 1 (36:25):
My friends.

Speaker 2 (36:26):
They probably didn't, you don't know.
Just keep me not knowing.
Yeah, right, like, just keep itlike that.
Yeah, I'm good with it.
First of all, I can never seemy brother.
My brothers are both.
It's big age gaps, so it'snever gonna be like nothing like
that.
But I do have.
They do have close age gaps,like my younger brother and

(36:47):
younger sister and my olderbrother and older sister.
So they, they all they all thesame age.
I'm dead in the middle, withfive years here and three years
here.

Speaker 1 (36:59):
My friends, nah, I ain't the one, but At this point
in age right, I have my closeGirlfriend.
They are, y'all know it's offlimits right period.
Now, if I meet somebodytomorrow and they're just an
acquaintance and it's just like,oh, oh, hey, girl, and then my
brother meets you too, and ifyou don't ask me, I'm not going

(37:23):
to say anything.
You're not my friend.
Friend, you get what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (37:27):
Let me ask you this what?
Because I know this happens.
How do you feel if, let's say,they both in a relationship, you
have a party or something atyour place and they cheating and
they hook up.

Speaker 1 (37:46):
You got to go, get out now.
Get out of my house.
Don't bring that foolishnessover here.
But at this day and age I'mgoing to tell my brothers off
for sure.
Um, I probably don't want tosit back at my house because,

(38:06):
not for nothing if they're bothin a relationship.
Y'all putting me like my namein, you know, y'all putting me
in a situation that I don't wantto be in, right, like I don't
want to be in it.
That's not fair to me, I agree.
That's so disrespectful.

Speaker 2 (38:25):
And then what do you do?
You feel like there's nothingyou could do.

Speaker 1 (38:26):
Yeah, and then I'm sitting with my sister-in-law at
the next barbecue or at myhouse, knowing it's a lot to
carry, or my friend's husband,whatever, like that's too much,
don't put, just leave me out ofit.
That's why when I, when I moveand we have things, nobody even
coming, don't even I ain't evengot to worry about that.

(38:48):
They wouldn't do that in myhouse.

Speaker 2 (38:53):
I think siblings are sneaky.
That's what I think.

Speaker 1 (38:58):
So my brothers, because I didn't have any
sisters growing up around me.
I don't think they think theyknow All right.
So we got this thing calledslime.
We always use this likeundercover word slime.
But they know certain thingsthey can do with me.
And then they know certainthings that's like off limits,

(39:19):
Because my one sister-in-law istwo of them, Like they're my
girls for life.
So if my brother was still witheither one of them he would
hide everything from me.

Speaker 2 (39:32):
This is one brother, oh, okay.

Speaker 1 (39:37):
Two different women.

Speaker 2 (39:38):
Okay because you said two sister-in-laws, yeah, two
different women.

Speaker 1 (39:40):
okay because you said two sisters, but I grew so the
first one we like she, that's my, she's still my sis, yeah.
And then the other one grewinto being that yeah, we weren't
that close at first, right, butover time we got closer and
closer, so it's just like like Ireally deal with them like, and
so he just know don't do no bsin front of me.

(40:01):
I don't even want to know ifyou're dealing with either one
of them.
Okay, honestly, but I reallyhighly doubt that.
But he knew, like especiallythat first one.
Oh, he knew, he probably waslike my sister gonna tell, my
sister gonna tell me like yepyep, that's crazy but now I
don't know, but my brothers killme.

(40:23):
though we didn't, went from girlcode to siblings.
Right, my brothers kill mebecause they'll have a
conversation with me.
And one day my brother calledme like yeah, because you think
like me and I'm like, I'm tiredof thinking like a nigga, what?
Don't tell me that I don't wantto think like you.

(40:43):
I want people to think I'm soft.
I don't want to think like you.

Speaker 2 (40:49):
It's going to be okay .

Speaker 1 (40:50):
Dang, it's going to be, okay, so, yeah, so it's just
different.
It's just different.
But at this day and age I thinkit's off limits.
Respectfully, if you know youlove me and we like family, it's
just something you shouldn'teven look at.
Yeah, and I know things happentoo, so I'm not naive to that.

Speaker 2 (41:10):
But how do you feel about one time let's say they
made a mistake or whateverversus like full blown?
How do you feel like if theyhid it from you for like months
and it was dealing with eachother?

Speaker 1 (41:21):
that happened to me.
I thought you said it.
No, that did happen to me.
My brother was throwing hints.
He was like kind of telling me,um, but she was scared and I
called, I caught the girlleaving his complex and she
didn't even stop and speak.
I'm like this girl ain't got nodamn sense, because what is she

(41:43):
running from?
She like literally pulled off.
Oh god, I was like why is she?

Speaker 2 (41:50):
my brother like, I don't know she ain't want you to
know what you look, because Itold her to don't do it in the
first place.
That's what I tell everybody.

Speaker 1 (42:04):
How are you going to see your friend in the parking
lot and just pull off and notsay nothing?
That's wild.
Because, she knew.
That's weird.
I don't care like that though.

Speaker 2 (42:16):
Because you told her yeah, so now it's on you.
Sis, I agree with that 100%.
Alright cool, alright well,that episode Is done.

Speaker 1 (42:29):
So y'all tell us what's your top three girl codes
For your friendships.
And we didn't even dig all theway deep.
We didn't cause it.

Speaker 2 (42:38):
it's a lie, but we stayed surface level.
Yeah, like dating, baby daddiesand stuff.

Speaker 1 (42:42):
I don't even like the term baby daddy.
If you're going to date my babydaddy and you're going to take
care of my kids, he's yours.

Speaker 2 (42:55):
Like a friend.

Speaker 1 (42:56):
Take him, because my real real friend.
Clearly you wasn't my friend inthe beginning anyway you
weren't my friend but if youfeel like he is worth our
friendship, do it, but make sureyou don't forget about them,
kids back there.

Speaker 2 (43:12):
Yo, I'm the same way, though.
Get these kids we're gonna haveto have a conversation about
that because you know how peopleget getting mad that the girl
be doing the king's hair yoevery time do it.
She come on with her dad like,yeah, it's cute, do it I mean
like she did her big one.

(43:32):
She's their big one with thembrain.

Speaker 1 (43:35):
You say you coming to get them what y'all need fruit
snacks, right, what do y'allneed?
I order everybody in you comingto get them what y'all need
fruit snacks, right?

Speaker 2 (43:39):
what do y'all need?
I order everybody in the housesome food.

Speaker 1 (43:41):
What do y'all need?
That's me that's me get thesekids like for real that's funny,
we'll say that one for anotheryeah, we'll say that for another
day, but it's been nice, it'sbeen real.

Speaker 2 (43:59):
Yes, interact with us in the comments, let us know.
All right, y'all.
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