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June 4, 2025 55 mins

What happens when humans are no longer the smartest species in the room?

In this episode, Dan and Alice talk with David Brown — founder of Future Hand Media and producer of With AI FM — about how AI is reshaping (or wrecking?) the future of work.

Key moments:

  • Podcasting as the last human medium: Why real, unfiltered conversations still matter.
  • AI’s creative fallout: From audio to copywriting, entry-level creative work is disappearing — and fast.
  • The vanishing ladder: With junior roles gone, who’s left to train humans?
  • The Gen Z reset: Why trades and hands-on work might be the new gold standard.
  • Hope vs horror: Could this AI reckoning actually free us to be... more human?

If you're a leader, a creator, a parent — or just wondering what your job will look like in 2030 — this one’s for you.

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